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G.I. Bill?

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G.I. Bill? What G.I. Bill?

(John McCain)

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  1. Josiah says:

    obama rox!!!

    • matchew says:

      Glad he wants to support the troops.

      Problem is, he’s just a guy who can’t say no. Have you looked at the tally of all the things he says we should fund? And has he suggested any means of funding all these things except the “tax the rich”? Bad news – the really rich people will move before they’ll pay the kind of tax burden the OMessiah would have to levy to pay for half of what he has suggested.

      I saw on a different post that you aren’t yet of voting age. Let me suggest you take some college-level economics courses before you get too enthused about the guy.

      • fillerbunny says:

        Yes, ’cause mistreating or marginalizing those who do serve is the way to go… especially from someone who did. And yes, Obama will try to raise taxes on the 1% who have over 50% of the wealth (ohnoes!), but he’ll also END the biggest drain on our budget (and economy)…. If you can’t guess/admit what that is, you’re the one who might want to look at further education…

      • Cutlesnap says:

        There _is_ no where they can move. The USA has the best atmosphere for big business. Taking away a bit of that won’t cause them to move.

      • chrisrnps says:

        …and if you knew what you were talking about, you’d also know that part of Obama’s platform is reinstating the “Paygo” law, where any new spending that Congress approves must be balanced with spending cuts somewhere else – this was a large part of the balanced budget and Federal surplus that we had before George W Bush took office and turned it into record deficits with unprecedented speed.

        All three (Obama, Clinton, and yes, McCain) of the candidates’ stated platforms would be impossible to fund – however, McCain’s is actually the worst of all three in this regard. As much as people make fun of “tax and spend liberals”, McCain’s and Bush’s policies consist of cutting taxes AND spending more – accelerating our national debt, accelerating the downward spiral of the devalued US dollar, and leaving our nation increasingly beholden as a debtor to countries like China and Saudi Arabia, in detriment to our national security, and compromising the ability of the USA to make foreign policy decisions that put US interests first.

        • matchew says:

          McCain was pushing ‘PayGo’ when Obama was still in diapers. He voted against the Bush tax cuts because he didn’t see any offset in revenues.

          I know the Lib line is that McCain is more of the same, but you lose credibility when you equate the two on issues where they have different points of view.

          • LAL says:

            You also lose credibility when you use two arguments which McCain has specifically and publicly reversed himself on. You may want to believe these are his stances, but he sure doesn’t. He has now come out in favor of the Bush tax cuts and has decided to loosen terms on his idea of paygo. He has also proposed additional tax cuts for the wealthy which he has claimed as tax cuts for the middle class. His campaign has also often acknowledged a weakness in economic policy and has, itself, called his economic plan a “work in progress.” I think it may be good that he is at least trying to educate himself on economic policy so he doesn’t continue to say (often with a laugh) that economics isn’t his thing. However, that does not sound at all like the John McCain that you have been trying to portray. However, I can’t fault you for not following McCain’s changes in his stances, I wouldn’t either if I was a Republican. Way too depressing.

      • LAL says:

        Answer to first question… yes. See above. Don’t ask rhetorical questions if you aren’t going to like the real answer. Also, number of things to fund is not equal to amount of money. Just because you choose to use a large portion of the federal budget on a war, thus lessening the number of other thinsg you can fund does not mean you are cutting the budget. In fact, quite the opposite if you look at the spending of Bill Clinton and Bush. Second, turns out that Republicans have also called Obama elitist because the most educated people support Obama. So, if anything with more education he will not stop supporting Obama, but will probably have a better reason that “Obama rox.”

  2. matchew says:

    He is good friend of G.I. Joe, yes?

  3. Kinson says:

    Is this reffering to the bill that was initially supposed to fund the war but was altered, by the Dem’s, into something completely different?

    • chrisrnps says:

      Nope, this was about a bipartisan GI Bill sponsored by Webb and co-sponsored by a broad coalition of Democrats and Republicans in congress. McCain couldn’t be bothered to show up, because he didn’t want to be seen voting against the troops in an election year.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/22/gi-bill-passes-senate_n_103091.html

      • matchew says:

        Ah, the Huffington post – such a fine example of journalistic excellence without a hint of bias.

      • LAL says:

        Don’t worry about him. As can be seen from the above posts, he thinks that McCain’s own website tells lies about him. The only safe way to avoid bias is to avoid reading. Ideally, avoid press of all kinds, and just make up your preferred candidate’s positions. Then, blast anyone who has sources which you disagree with as being biased with no evidence of your side. If you prove someone else to be biased or wrong, then by elimination anything you say is right. This also prevents the need to read, which as mentioned above is a total plus.

  4. xD says:

    black people?
    hah! who cares about them?

  5. Amber says:

    I don’t get this dig. McCain’s GI Bill reform would have encouraged military careers (retention is important) and it would have allowed the transfer of benefits to spouses and children and/or the forgiveness of previous student loans.

    • chrisrnps says:

      You’re kidding, right? McCain’s “GI Bill Reform” was a cynical effort to save face, one which he knew had no chance of getting passed, while he missed the vote on the ‘real’ New GI Bill measure. McCain’s method of ensuring “retention” is to make the benefits so lackluster that people stay in the military – he’s afraid too many people will leave if the benefits are too good, as opposed to making better benefits to encourage more people to join, which is the whole point of the Webb GI Bill. GAO studies have shown that the premise of McCain’s and Bush’s “retention through crappy GI Bill benefits” angle is not true – the Webb GI Bill results in more people on-board with the military ranks than the Bush-McCain version.

      • Amber says:

        Wasn’t saying it was perfect, but retention is important nonetheless. People act like his version said “You all get two textbooks, kthxbye!”

    • fillerbunny says:

      But I’m sure McCain has plenty of “retention” of his own… Now, if only it was in the upper third of his body, not the lower.

      Oh, and yes, in case that was too subtle- HE’S OLD!!!!!

  6. Lorencomop says:

    Did you know that USA and Europe blocked Wikileaks? What do you think about it?
    Thank for all


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