I want you to want me
(Barack Obama)
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Angry candidate is angry
He better start singin’ this song, ’cause his poll numbers are slippin’!
Yeah, if he keeps this up, he and McCain might actually be even.
Where’ve you been for the last couple weeks? Statistical tie, dude.
Obama’s polling is below where Kerry’s was, excactly four years ago.
It’s looking good, but still there’s much to be done. The more people know about Obama, the less they like him.
What’s not to like about Obama? The problem with Kerry was a bunch of America haters dis’sed the Military Awards system, called all Vietnam hero’s actions into question, up to the highest level of awards, and he was too slow into calling them out as the worthless scum that they were.
No, the problem with Kerry was that he insulted all American veterans of Vietnam by calling them rapists and murderers. That’s why the other Swift Boat veterans came out with the truth about him for the election.
That, and in Kerry’s thirty years of Senate “service”, he hadn’t achieved any more than Obama — which is to say, nothing at all.
As for Obama’s faults, they are many. Chief among them are his close associations with bigots, racists, terrorists and America-haters. There’s also his intimate involvement with the corrupt politics of Chicago. Click my name for some of that!
Yeah, well he didn’t call ALL vietnam vets rapists and murderers. Go back and listen to what he actually said. If you want to generalize, then look at the actual swift boaters. Their insults/fabrications called into questionion the entire Vietnam era military awards system, thereby questioning the all awards, including the CMH. The swift boat veterans were quite willing to degrade any Vietnam era award to further their own political goals and that is more disgusting than any statements that kerry made in the immediate wake of the war. The SBV group didn’t give a shit about anything but their own political ideals and were quite willing to pursue a scorched earth policy regardless of the harm to American Veterans.
Well, you are wrong. Sen Kerry did not call ALL Vietnam veterans rapists and murderers — go back and look at the transcripts. You are fudging the facts. But since you want to generalize, your buddies the swift boaters disgraced all of the heros of the Vietnam War when they called into question the system that determined valorous awards, up to and including the CMH. Since they questioned Sen Kerry’s Silver Star, they , in effect, said that the system was broken, therefore, who can rely on any award? Their blind political opinions were more important than the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines who fought for, died or otherwise served their country. They would rather have pursued their scortched earth policy to serve their own aims than do justice to those who honorably served and received valor awards. They are beneath contempt.
Now you’re generalizing the same way you accuse me of doing. If Kerry didn’t attack all veterans, then by the same token the Swift Boat Vets didn’t attack all military honors.
Well, I did say that I was generalizing, however, there is a difference. When John Kerry testified before the Congress he was an individual relating his perceptions of events. The Military Awards System, on the other hand, is a system designed to vet and weed out unsubstantiated claims of meritorious service or, more importantly, valorous deeds. All claims of valor are checked as much as possible, and if there is any doubt, those claims are disapproved. LT John Kerry was awarded a Silver Star, a valorous medal, so when the SBV questioned that medal, they did in fact call the entire SYSTEM into question. Again, I state, they did so to enhance their own self-serving political beliefs, and to hell with our real heros.
Kerry’s medals aren’t the important issue. It’s his denouncement of US troops, and his participation in the fake “testimonials” of Winter Soldier that upset his fellow veterans.
That’s what drove other Vietnam veterans to band together and oppose Kerry.
Some other Veterans. As I recall, some stood by him, especially those who served with hime during the time in question, except for the guy who got in trouble. Hmmm fancy that. Again you missed my point. They did question the medals, and it wasn’t the medals themselves, it was their willingness to question the entire system to further their own political beliefs. They are and always will be beneath contempt and their opinions are worthless.
The same criticism could be leveled at Kerry. He smeared other Vietnam veterans at Winter Soldier, in order to further his political beliefs.
But that’s all in the past now. I doubt Kerry will run for President again.
I almost agree with you. The problem is one of temporal context. With regards to the current Presidential race, the issue is which contestent is best suited to bring the USA into the future. As much as I personally admire Sen McCain, I believe that he represents the past, whereas Sen Obama represents the future. And, more importantly, Sen Obama is better positioned to make decisions to bridge the generational gap — in the opinion of an old-timer.
*cut to November*
Didn’t I, Didn’t I, Didn’t I see YOU cryin’?
This motion in sign language is usually followed by another motion where the pointed index finger is then drawn across the throat horizontally. This sign translates to “YOU’RE GOING DOOOOOWWWWWN!” At least, that’s what I was taught from things like pro wrestling…
the horizontal component of that gesture is supposed to mimic drawing a blade across one’s throat. thus, the gesture you’ve just described more accurately translates to “I’m going to kill you”
Depends on your stress and intonation
Not taking me too seriously, are you?
You forget that professional wrestlers do not speak *English*.
See, who says Obama can’t be tough on terrorists?
Yes, he can make a very very scary face.
How does it feel to want? I want a million dollars, but it doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.
But Obama, we already want you.
No no no. YOU already want him.
so take him and get outta here…
Yeah, we want him…to STFU and get a job. Sparkling wiggle.
Wow, racist much?
Dealing the race card FTL!
Google Sparkling Wiggle … then come back and say it isn’t a racist comment.
Of course “dealing the race card” is also a pretty derogatory thing to say. It implies that there is no race bias and people are making it up. This is obviously not true as evidenced by the lovely posts we occasionally get even here.
The one thing I have to say about our usual rabid crew of repugs is that they don’t go for the low blows on race. They spew the right wing media lies but they don’t call him names based on his color.
To be honest, the only time I’ve seen someone use the race card towards Obama was when he was using it towards himself.
Play poker much? You play off the other guy’s cards. Obama plays race, card, I play it back to him.
So, does that make it a poker fail for Obama?
Okay, moment of truth: I got too caught-up in the back-and-forth of all this and I crossed a line with the Sparkling Wiggles remark. There’s plenty of fun to be had with this on both sides without crossing barriers of decency, and in the sense, yeah, I failed. My apologies to y’all out there.
But yeah; poker fail.
I don’t see how “My bad, so sorry for being a racist prick” makes that better … I just wish they had ignore on here.
The fact that you knew about it and used it at all is a major humanity fail.
I got so caught up in the heat of debate I forgot to keep my racist views private, my bad! In the future I’ll be sure to keep such comments off the message boards and save them for my local KKK meeting.
Yeah….apology not accepted.
Just set his comments next to Rev Rants anti-white comments
Oh, so two wrongs make a right? Perhaps you went to the same math class that Chelle got her half of an education from. I would think that even you wouldn’t want to be caught dead defending this blatent racist.
No, but three rights make a left!
You forget … Huey is loading his guns already incase them “radical blacks” get to rioting if “B-HO” loses. He possibly is 3rd guy on left in sheet.
You notice that during the Rodney King riots in “Kalifornia”, there were none in Texas ? Even the ultraliberals were trying to borrow a gun there! A well armed population has better manners and better law enforcement.
What? Nobody gets the Cheap Trick reference?
Oh, they get it all right. They’re just too busy hatin’ to sit and laugh.
Got it, loved it, just don’t read the comments and you’re good.
priceless advice… thanks, TC.
But you are just a Cheap Trick.
If you want my love, you got it.
I find this candidate wanting.
Wanting what? To be elected? Don’t they all?
Heheh. An obscure joke.
Saying that something or someone “is wanting” is an archaic expression that means “lacking some essential quality”. In this case, Obama lacks experience and substance.
We KNOW what the term ‘wanting’ means; it’s not archaic by any means. Anyone with half an education KNOWS it — the problem is that neither of you are funny.
Ya Think? Thanks for you interest in National Security.
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Thank you. My sentiments exactly.
Yeah, I’d like two of them there ‘educations’, and one on the side for my missus. Thank’y.
I just like how ‘half an education’ is supposed to make sense, like, it’s a defined unit of measurement.
Wow, your bitterness and anger are disproportionate to the discussion. Here, take deep breaths and have a nice cup of herbal tea, feel the crazy drain away.
Oh CRAP!!!! Saruman found the One Ring!!!!!!
Damn… this site is infested with bitter Republicans. I’ll go get the roach spray.
It’ll be infested with bitter Democrats after the election, by the look of things.
Ah, the Rethugs show their colors. Ugly, aren’t they?
And this, my fellow citizens, is the “heartland” of America. Sad, isn’t it?
What are you talking about?
prolly working thru some anger “issues” is my guess…
I’m debating to propose my monkey keyboard theory again.
*shrugs*
Those people are crazy.
Says the person who once argued that Bush “stopped the war” *snicker snort*
Please stop. Just because “repugs” are sinking to the level of low-brow insults and swears doesn’t mean you should. It’s just giving them fodder and making all of us look bad.
*is honestly wondering why she reads the comments still and thinks perhaps she well stop. Do people here seriously have nothing better to do with their time than insult each other?*
The only low-brow insults and swears in this thread are coming from DW.
Because libtard, for one, is so respectful. Conservatives think people have the right to believe differently from them my foot… Some do, but no one on here.
And the first person to use “libtard” in this thread is … you.
Starting with “that guy”‘s post, it’s all been lowbrow insults from lefties, and mild responses from the right. In public discourse, the left is usually the angrier and more offensive side.
You guys don’t have to TRY to give us anything to make you look bad. You come with virtually no assembly required.
And you look like a paragon of virtue? RACIST
How does that work, exactly? Are you an expert?
” Drink the Koolaid!!!” would be a much better title.
Yeah, but that’s true of most captions.
Or “McCain cheated me!” Waaaahhhh!
I expect that will happen. Seems to be the Battle Cry for the Democraps.
Actually the campaign ads so far are pretty much McCain Lying about Obama’s “tax increases” or crying about him being well liked.
Obama ads are mainly positive while McCain ads are mainly negative … who is the crybaby in that situation? MCCAIN
Radical blacks are already telling the news drones that they will riot”like LA” if B-HO loses the election.
(snick..snick.. Loading my clips)
Obama or die, Obama or die. What’s that supposed to mean?
That if McCain is elected you’re going to be drafted and killed in Iraq or Iran?
What? Using fear to garner votes!? That’s awful.
That’s not so bad. Now a days you have a better chance of getting killed during basic training then you do in combat.
Wait! That’s not good!
I’m voting for him…but I must admit…that’s one scary image.
I kinda like it. Shows there’s more to him than smiling at the crowds.
I gotta admit, he’s a good actor.
No he’s not. He just chose a dumb audiance.
I’m waiting for one thing to be posted that Evil Pundit DOESN”T have a bitter comment about. But at least they’re honest about what they stand for.. Evil.
Yep, everyone is evil that doesn’t agree with you.
Wait…..what does that sound like to you?
sort of like calling someone racist?
Sort of like the phrase “Sparkling Wiggle” is another way of saying f*in N* ?
Look it up before you start slamming her for calling that other person racist.
I don’t recall you making any racist comments yourself so I am guessing you didn’t know what it stands for.
I didn’t either until today.
I’m so glad I didn’t google that at work! Pretty low. Makes ya just wanna throw up. Like the results of the WV Dem Primaries.
I hadn’t seen it either. Kind of sad, actually, that I learn it here.
Man, I had NO idea what the Sparkling Wiggles comment was in reference to and I apologize to Ayla.
I’m actually surprised at the number of people who don’t get the Sparkling Wiggle reference. I’m more surprised that it makes me racist to say that, but Obama’s frequent blasts on whites in his books don’t make him racist. Gotta love that double standard, right? I mean if you’re going to call me a racist anyway, I might as well not hold back. Besides, if he becomes President, I’ll go to jail for my skin color.
The problem is, while I don’t LIKE Obama, I would never use the ‘N’ word or any reference to it when describing the man. Also, why does there have to be a double standard? Shouldn’t your morals and ethics be enough?
Morals and ethics are never enough. *sigh* Remember, it’s always about POWER, and how you’re going to lure other people into providing you with it (no people, no power).
There will always (sadly) be a double standard – the standard they set for people who agree with them, and the standard they set for people who don’t. Some people are more guilty of being the ‘they’ than others.
Just like people now go to jail for their skin color?
There is a history of mistreatment here and it isn’t directed at the white guys. Things are improving slowly but some things take time. When Black people are still profiled and discriminated on a near daily basis it is hard to “let go” of the anger. Maybe once people like YOU are all gone the world and our country in particular can move forward.
It is racist attitudes on the part of the whites that breed the same in the black population.
How does it feel to be a throwback pig holding your country in the dark ages?
Unfortunately there will always be racist people of all colors – it’s just one of the many human sicknesses we are *blessed* with. That being said, holding on to anger about what someone else thinks about you will hurt you. I work in a male dominated field and I could be angry about a lot of things I see and hear every day but I chose not to focus on any of it. The way I see it no one can hold me back but myself.
Ok, but in your male dominated career are you given the same opportunities for on job training and professional development?
Have you seen the schools in “ethnically diverse” areas? How about we have some school standardization? Let all kids learn in the same environments?
Have you been followed at work by people thinking you are going to steal something? Let’s see you go school shopping or shoe shopping with security guards following you around the store.
Have you had racial slurs shouted at you by people driving by in cars while you were just talking to friends?
Have your coworkers looked at you and said you are only there for affirmative action?
You can easily talk about getting over it and letting it go but you can go home and not be in a hostile environment. You can go to the mall or the movies or the grocery store and not have anyone be rude to you.
PS – you said you are in the computer programming field once I think? I have a lot of friends in that field and while most programmers are guys they practically revere the few women who join them and there is no real stigma attached. I know a girl who is a senior unix administrator. She is a rare one indeed – how many people specialize in Unix and how many of those are women? She is close to a goddess at work. I really don’t see how the situations are related. Plus you can always file a complaint or get a new job in a different company.
Ok, it would be nice if all schools were equal as far as equipment etc., but anyone can learn in just about any situation it actually depends on the person and what they want out of life. Also parents are a huge factor or having someone who cares about you and your future also helps. Where do you live that people are shouting racial slurs at anyone in public? I’m not saying no one is ever uncomfortable in every situation, I’m just saying you can’t always change everyone around you it’s easier to change yourself and your own perceptions. You would be surprised how that can actually change your entire world.
I actually live in an area where someone would be shouted at in public. It’s very disappointing to live in such a small-minded, somewhat hostile community. I understand where both of you are coming from, ema and jellybeans. I actually receive negative attention because I am a woman (well, some may find whistles and lewd statements somewhat as compliments, but, I digress). I have found it does help to have a thick skin. It doesn’t excuse the actions of others, but it certainly does help those who are assaulted cope.
Sometimes anger is good as long as it has a focus that is positive – like actually changing legislation or something like that… but to dwell in it is not healthy.
Where do you live that you have never heard racial slurs shouted?
I live in Northern Virginia. Home of the yuppies and the tech corridor – if your people treat you badly at work look around here because people with computer skills are in high demand. I have heard people yelling slurs and insults outside of some of our national monuments in DC. I have been followed around a store with a black friend in the Dulles Towncenter.
Now, either they thought I was going to shop lift or they thought she was. I have never been followed but she has it happen a lot. She is a lovely person who dresses well and makes about twice what I do and has never stole a thing in her life. I dress like a bum on occasion and only wear “real” shoes to work or the gym.
I have seen the schools in DC from one block to the next the facilities are vastly improved.
I think you may be living in a bit of a fairy tale to say people can learn anywhere. It takes books and equipment to learn. It takes more than one microscope to 10 kids (my school had one per 2 kids … how about yours?) It takes teachers who care and kids who feel safe. It takes a hard line to get the thugs out and keep the kids safe. It takes books in the library.
How disheartening is it to know that your school is so poor when 2 blocks over there is a better school you can’t go to because you live in the wrong neighborhood?
No one actually treats me badly on purpose, it’s just out dated perceptions especially at first but it’s never held me back. I just laugh. All schools should at least get the basic equipment, a lot of times there are real bad social problems affecting childrens home lives that are really to blame… I feel real bad for those kids.
Actually – while I am at it I should clarify that it is not just inner city schools that have disparities. I live in a nice suburban town that goes from million dollar+ mini-mansions to assisted living for the elderly to income adjusted housing for people who can’t afford an apartment. There are 2 high schools kids can go to here. The schools are maybe 2 miles away from each other but they are so vastly different in facilities that it is sad.
I have heard that state colleges look at the grades kids get with an eye on what school they are coming out of. If I get a B average in the really nice school it counts higher than an A average in a poor school because I learned more in my nice school.
There are a lot of things wrong with this country. Things that don’t make me proud. But it doesn’t mean I don’t love my country and that I don’t want the best for it. In my mind the best thing that can happen to this country is a change of leadership style and something that can bring hope and equality to the fore-front ahead of the Neanderthals screaming their messages of racial hatred.
That sparkling wiggles thing was disgusting btw – it made me very sad to see that…
That is because you are a good person Ema. I wish everyone was.
Same to you! You are a tireless crusader for what you believe, I respect you!
uh oh … I think we just presaged the end of days.
We should hurry up and say something mean about each other before anyone notices.
ZOmabamag you can’t make fun of the annointed one!1!!
Ok. If you say so.
you know, i’m just gonna comment on how funny the Cheap Trick reference is, and forget about the political thing.
but for the record, Obama should shine up the old brown shoes, put on a brand-new shirt, and get home early from work, ’cause i’ll say that i love him.
ninety-FIRST!!1!!!11!!
And Obama wins!