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(Cindy & John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Tom Ridge)
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You nailed it on Lieberman. Supposedly a Democrat, yet endorsing a Republican. Supposedly a US Senator, yet working harder for Israel than for America.
Er, my bad. He’s no longer a Democrat, but Independent. But the second statement is still true.
You’re a twat.
Twit twat tweet.
Wow! Such an awesome comeback for an eleven-year old!
Well, not really, but that’s ok
Heh… party uber alles fro you, eh?
Lieberman did the honorable thing and stood for election as an indy. COntrast with, for example, Jeffords who waited ’till after the elections to make his intention known.
No, he is an independent because he lost the Democratic Primary in CT, so he HAD to run as independent. Don’t make that douche sound honorable. No politician is.
So what? The Dems pushed him out, so he went before the PEOPLE OF HIS STATE and won election honorably. The Senate is meant to serve the people, not the parties.
But by kow-towing to McAncient he is serving himself…
Wow…. so your claim is that ol’ Joe Lieberman has PSYCHIC POWERS and he used them YEARS AND YEARS ago to form his opinions … so that SOMEDAY, when McCain got the nomination he would share enough common ground to support him?
Um…. yeeaaaaahhh…
Agreed, but that’s Lindsey Graham, not Tom Ridge, and who really is a twit!
BTW — how is this a LOL? It’s just an exercise in name calling. So what if he was able to find 4 words beginning with “T”?
On the plus side, the rating for this one is a good baseline on how many here vote for LOLs based strictly on partisan grounds.
Analysing humour is usually a pretty good way of killing the joke, but since you asked, I’ll give it a go.
The fact that the insults build up from a cheap insult to a strong insult, to a rather emotive insult and then drop to a silly insult to a man with a daft face creates a sense of bathos.
That, and the idea that each of the people in the photo can be reduced to nothing with just a simple dismissive word was enough to make me laugh out loud.
Naw, we’re just talking random picture of 4 people, each assigned with a T-word.
Why it’s the 4 Ts of the Apocalypse of course!
I hear the 40′s are really popular with them younger voters….
No, you idiot … the 4 *teas* … it’s all about antioxidants.
*blubbering* Leave Cindy alone!!
its a LOL cause its funny, and actually kinda fits with each person if you knew anything about them.
and Tom Ridge IS a twit, and not the cool Leo Laporte kind….
Nope, it’s just another mindless spew of liberal hate.
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. I believe you have something in common.
That’s Lindsey Graham, not Tom Ridge you moron.
Let the Hatefest Continue!
Come on Pundit Kitchen! Just go ahead and change the name to “Republican Haters Club” and get it over with!
Maybe Neo-cons just aren’t funny.
No.
Libruls just can’t handle dissent.
Okay! As long as we go to Cinnabon first…
Fillerbunny, I’m starting to worry about you. Is your blood sugar low?
Rock on out at Hatefest ’08, WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Why does Cindy look like she’s late for a Swiss Miss cocoa photo shoot?
I saw this picture captionless and thought the same thing!
She looks like she’s wearing a ’50s tablecloth.
you nailed that one……or maybe she should be singing?
“the hills are alive….with the sound of music….”
someone get this woman a stylist!
No way; she’s little red riding hood.
I was thinking the same thing… why is she dressed like a 12 year old girl? There aren’t enough surgical procedures in the world for THAT to happen… yikes!
Thats the best one I’ve seen in a while (did like the Clinton Quagmire though).
Every time a man is insulted, it’s for character flaws like “power hungry” or “money grubber,” but women are always just “whore.” Obviously, we have no personality outside of “we f— other men” or “we don’t f— other men.”
Sexism is alive and well in this country. thanks.
I’m guessing that they were going for the “he met Cindy while still married, so Cindy is a homewrecker” angle. Now, McCain, I believe had already separated from his wife at that point, so I don’t think that’s valid. Even then, trollop wasn’t the most appropriate name. But, again, I think that all of the names are just ridiculous.
What Too Good For You said.
Oh, and btw, calling Cindy McCain a ‘trollop’ is no better than what John McCain called her way back when. Nothing like using gendered insults to make sure women are still relegated to the sex class.
McCrazy called her a trollop!
Please. Just let the innocent alliteration live.
Yeah, enough of this weird fixation of a word allegedly spoken once, 16 years ago …
“At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c**t.” –John McCain
Pop quiz: what statement of Cindy’s (presumably) prompted this reply?
Am I allowed to answer since I was the one who posted the quote? hehe
Not till all the submissions are in; we need you to call the winner!
If I remember rightly it was, “You’re going a bit thin on top, dear.”
His offensive misogyny came at the point where she was combing his hair for him as he hasn’t been able to lift his arms for decades. It’s a charming way of thanking the woman who has cared for him for years…
Wow…. you get “misogyny” from claims that McCain might have used a bad word, once, 16 years ago?
Why, do you get a boner like a good sub when you hear someone being talked down to?
And don’t forget context is largely inscrutable in print: we’ve no way to tell how serious / mocking a tone either of them used.
If the quote were true, and it wasn’t taken out of context, it would have been misogynistic.
It may not have been true. It might be that we’re looking at it in the wrong light. It might be the case that he’s changed in the last 16 years (though I didn’t realise that it had quite been so long).
But if McCain really said it in the context that’s been assigned to him (and I’ve never heard him deny it) and he hasn’t since changed his attitude towards women, then he’s a hideous misogynist.
We don’t even know if this alleged quote was real. Where’s the evidence?
The story came from Cliff Schecter, who wrote an unofficial bio of John McCain. There was an eyewitness report, but if you don’t believe that then you have to look at McCain’s overall behavior and decide whether you believe it was in character.
Given that McCain used to be against the idea of safe abortions being available to women around time time of this comment (he’s since changed his mind on this issue), I can believe that he was something of a misogynist at the time!
so, if you believe that abortion is killing a human being, you’re a misogynist?
More liberal fiction …
Where would Democrats be without their bedtime stories?
I don’t know, where would Democrats be without their bedtime stories?
Oh, sorry, Evil, I thought you were starting a routine
I’ve gotta shed those old stage habits …
Er, which country? OK, the contestants on tonights panel are all apparently Americanos, but this isn’t a geographically restricted forum, is it?
Not that I don’t totally agree with your point (or at least the essence of it – you missed out the other cliched distinction between Those Who Wear Pantsuits and All Other Women).
Also note that the term ‘whore’ is more specific than your allusion allows: whores do not just f— other men, they f— other men for money and/or power. Just sayin’
I was thinking the same thing. As much as I don’t like her, she seems to me like a botox injected phoney, I don’t think its right to reduce and degrade her that way. It’s certainly not a liberal thing to do in my opinion. I was thinking earlier today, that regardless of what a woman does or who she is, most of the compliments or insults thrown at her still have something to do with sex.
True… BUT
a) Women are (in my experience) equally if not more likely to attack each other’s sexual propriety as men are so to attack women; women are judged on the whore-scale by society in general, not just by men.
b) Women’s insults to men frequently carry deniable sexual implications. The fact that men are generally too verbally challenged to do likewise can’t in fairness be cited as endemic sexism.
You’re just jealous because you didn’t marry her and her millions first !
Maybe it’s a typo and they meant Dollop. As in, “I’d like a dollop of whip cream on that Hot Cocoa you’re serving me, miss.”
Jane, you ignorant slut!
Hey! That’s my line!™
Speaking of which, anyone else up for some Cinnabon-y goodness?
So says someone who obviously doesn’t know the awesomeness of whip cream…
Perhaps the captioner couldn’t spell “von Trapp”
Um… something McCain is **alleged** to have said… 16 years ago. Them Obamabots are hurtin’ for issues!
Only if by “alleged” you mean “corroborated by three independent sources and never challenged.”
Oh yeah … and you don’t link to any of these “sources”.
Caption is really bad. I don’t think it’s funny mainly because McCain is a nominee showing no tyrant tendencies! Is there a reference here that I’m not getting? I mean, the alliteration is apparent.
dude he wants to extend the war in the middle east which means higher gov spending n an increase in taxes
And this is why I’m not voting for him. The definition of tyrant is a ruler who is oppressive. 1. McCain is not our ruler and I hope he will not be, 2. I don’t see McCain as oppressive. I’m not one for labeling people evil because they don’t agree with you. As I stated before, I believe McCain is at core a good guy, but because I don’t agree with his policies, I shan’t vote for him.
I think tyrant was used for his famously bad temper. Perhaps not the best word, but the one that was most fitting for the caption.
I find his “Little jerk” outbursts somewhat amusing.
Sure, they are amusing as long as he isn’t Commander in Chief while they are happening.
I’m trying to keep it from happening! And the one I was most amused with was his calling a college student a little jerk after the boy asked him if he was concerned about dying in office (or being old… something to that effect)
actually, the question had to do with taste in music … and McCain’s “little jerk” comment was meant in fun : and everyone in the room knew it. The REAL amusement, though is watching Obama followers react to hearing it 3rd or 4th hand, out of context.
The same thing could be said for a lot of things that both Obama and McCain say. For example, Obama’s “57 states” comment. Does anybody *REALLY* think that Obama doesn’t know that there are 50 states? Doesn’t it seem more obvious that he meant “57 states/territories which have promary elections” and just said “states” for short?
The same for other things Obama and McCain have said. I know if anybody recorded everything I’ve ever said, and cherrypicked only the stupidest things, I sure would sound stupid. But, I’m not.
Still, it works when people say “Bush is dumb”. So Obama can suck it up too.
Yah so we better vote for someone with no experience….wait what?
No one has PRESIDENTIAL experience until they’re PRESIDENT. And the experience you speak of? THAT’S gotten us really far!
Wrong….
Ex. Most senators or well traveled people out of the United States don’t go to other countries to bash their own.
What is this bashing of which you speak? I’m intrigued.
BTW, good for you, dude, for not bashing people who disagree and for actually understanding the idea of solving things with democracy.
Thanks, duck. It comes from my political ideals grab bag. Prob couldn’t be called a liberal, most wouldn’t think I was a conservative despite my ideas on gun control. Not gonna bash people because they think differently. However, xenophobes make my blood boil!
I was refering to Baraks trip to Germany and the spanking he gave us while over there. You may acknowledge your problems but you don’t bash your own country to another while over seas, thats just stupid and wrong.
Um….. the “little jerk” comment was a joke. Watch teh video; everyonein the room knew this and laughed.
I wasn’t saying it wasn’t a joke. I watched the video! Assumptions, assumptions!
Who said you did? Your post had no indication either way.
Sounds like you should take your own critcism on “assumptions”
He wants to extend the war? Thats news to me. I think you need to pay a little more attention to whats going on in the world before you come here and make stupid uninformed comments. Part of the fun of these LOLblogs is that you need to be intelligent so as to not confuse them with reality.
If it’s news to you then you’re the one who needs to pay more attention. He rather famously said that he would be happy to keep us there for a hundred, a thousand, or even ten thousand years.
You need to pay more attention.
He said that he would be okay with occupying Iraq for a hundred years, as long as the war was over and nobody was being killed.
Ever since then, liberals have been lying about what McCain said.
Can you show me where he (not one of his apologists) said that, because all I can find is “It’s not American presence; it’s American casualties.” as part of the second (i.e. damage control) time he talked about it.
You may not think of it as war if none of our guys are getting killed, but I don’t agree.
Sure, just as soon as you show me where John McCain, not one of his enemies, said “a thousand, or even ten thousand years”.
Here’s a quote from CNN:
Last month, at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, a crowd member asked McCain about a Bush statement that troops could stay in Iraq for 50 years.
“Maybe 100,” McCain replied. “As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it’s fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”
I don’t see anything about a thousand years, or ten thousand.
How about a video? http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-permanent-bases/ The phrase is at about the one minute mark.
Appearing on face the nation to explain the incident you mention McCain said “The point is it’s American casualties. We’ve go to get American’s off the frontlines, have the Iraqis as part of the strategy, take over more and more of the responsibilities, and then I don’t think Americans are concerned if we’re there for one hundred years or a thousand years or ten thousand years.”
But hey, don’t take my word for it; type “John McCain 10,000 years” into a search engine and watch the video yourself.
(apologies if this is a near duplicate, this site doesn’t seem to like posting direct URL’s)
It’s still not “ten thousand years of war”. He was clearly referring to a peaceful state.
I think his meaning is that no one cares about whether we’re there or not, they care about the lives of soldiers. still have troops in japan, don’t we?
I also think if he gets elected we will be right back in a cold war with Russia. It is familiar footing for him having been around for all of the last one. He is probably thanking his stars that Russia attacked Georgia.
Again, I agree. But, see tyrant
I think there are others who fit better.
my question: who here trusts russia? I find their getting mad about a missile defense shield is ridiculous – shields mean a lower likelihood of nuclear devastation, no matter where you’re from. isn’t that what we’re working for, supposedly? I think that there should be a shield in EVERY country. then, there will be no reason to have nukes. hell, I’m a conservative and I hate nukes.
The reason Russia pitches a fit is because they don’t trust us. Cold War mentality is alive and well on both sides… so hopefully we can move on over here.
totally right, but it doesn’t make sense anyways. I trust russian poeple, they’re some of my better friends, but the fact is they’ve got a friggen KGB colonel running the show! and believe or don’, but he’s got a greater appeal to the russian people than obama does to many over here, merely because he’s a guy with answers and a hell of a lot of charisma. unfortunately his answers to his people are that america’s the beast and that things were better WITH the cold war. creepy, man. I have a lot of friends who migrated from the former soviet union – poland, ukraine, russia, etc. (a lot of them jumped boats to get away from the USSR) and let me tell you, they are SCARED of putin. scared stiff. they know what he represents. and I’m freaked by him too. should we let the missles fly? hell no. but a shield? great idea. let them have one too. mutually assured protection – how’s that for an idea?
Dude, I agree! I am a product of the great escape from Communism. Second gen Russian
dude,
um,
you’re awesome.
errr… second gen AMERICAN of Russian descent… sorry… I’m crashing after too much caffeine. Brain is a bit muddy. I gotta stop working in bars til close.
The thing with Missle Defense, duck, and I did a lot of research on it a few years back, is that all other issues aside, the testing done with it is not promising. It’s just not effective and the shields could be overwhelmed. Maybe with more research a way could be found to make it work, but personally there are other things I feel should get priority when it comes to my tax dollars.
My dad is a communist escapee too. He left Tito’s Yuegoslavia when he was 18 to go to college and never went back, and his entire career was at Raytheon. He used to be very conservative and a staunch republican, (and both of my parents and myself, are not pleased with Russia atm), but now he’s an independent who supports Obama. That doesn’t mean he agrees with Obama on everything, it means he respects him and thinks he’s the best candidate for the country right now. He was always either for Obama or Edwards.
that’s like saying, “bullet proof vests are stupid, they can’t block bazooka!” I think even if they can be overwhelmed, they should be installed and improved over time. there needs to be more safety against bombing, everywhere.
No, I actually see it as completely different. I think it’s a potential waste of money, for something that may encourage “enemy nations” to build up their bunkers to overwhelm ours shields. Call me an idealist and a hippie, but I think that reasonably, for our good and the world’s good, that while we defintely need to have a good defense force, the best, and most long term bomb saftey is dipolmacy and world-wide nuclear disarment. It may be a messy, frustrating, and pain staking road, but it’s better than the alternatives in my opinion. I think nuclear bombs are too risky and destructive for us to have them around period. It’s just irresponisble.
I think you are an idealist. Ideals are great, but you must prepare for your potential enemy’s stated intentions, not his present capabilities. Benjamin Netanyahu said (this is a paraphrase), “If Palestinians put down their guns, we will have peace. If Israelis put down theirs, there will be no Israel.”
The same is true for us–the US, and those whom we help defend–on a much larger scale. The best deterrent, so far, is nukes. Mind you, I doubt if they would ever be used except *in extremis*; the rest of the world would turn on us in a heartbeat unless it were clear that we did so in immediate self defense of ourselves or our allies.
Regarding diplomacy: YOU CAN’T NEGOTIATE WITH FERAL ANIMALS. The Ahmadinajads, Hamas, Al Qaeda, and others who support the murder and massacre of innocents around the world, singly and en masse, are not amenable to reason. It is childishly naive to think that they are, and this is chief among many reasons why I cannot vote for B. Hussein Obama.
we don’t need nukes. we need new weapons that don’t cause catastrophic damage for years to come, and hurt the entire world. we need crippling weapons that put our enemies on the bench, but don’t cause unnecessary harm. this is a long way off, but it is something that we should hope for. in the mean time, ryszard is right. there’s no negotiating with people who just plain ol’ want death – they’ll get what the want, however they can. that’s why shields are important. we need SOME defense… perhaps they can lessen the damage to the civilian population in the event of an attack?
who here trust republicans?? with their history of overthrowing democratically elected governments (has everyone already forgotten Allende in Chile) and installing puppet governments (Pinochet anyone?)… they have no credibility when it comes to supporting “democracy around the world” HA!
I DON’T trust the republican party. I trust conservative people. unforunately there seems there are few left. registered as a republican, and there’s no WAY I’m voting for McCain. however, it’s not just republicans who are unreliable and go against their word…
but we weren’t talking about that. we were talking about how I think the country of russia is slowly sinking back into the embrace of soviet thinking, which spells doom for eastern europe without some protection. the USSR did some amazingthings, you know… like take countries like the ukraine and poland, countries that could feed all of europe, and reduce them to starvation while fruit rotted on trees.
We are already back in a cold war with Russia.
At least McCain thinks we’re the good guys, and wants to win — unlike Obama.
Perhaps you’d like to think so. But I’d like to think that the Cold War ended somewhere near two decades ago. What with no Communism in Russia or West Europe, significantly more open borders for immigration and all that.
All Russia are doing at the moment is trying to say that they are still a power on the world stage. Many people wrote them off when Communism fell, Russia just want to say that the largest country on Earth is still a force to be reckoned with.
by saying it will attack a neighboring country for no GOOD reason? this is horrible. and communism may be hurt, but it’s not dead, and the mindset remains. the philosophy is dangerous to everyone in the region.
There is no Communist government in East Europe or West Asia. Dictatorships, sure, but no Communism.
And Communism as a philosophy is very good, just it has never been put into practice successfully on any reasonable scale.
Russia may not have done the right thing, but it’s not like the US is some sort of saint.
there may not be openly communist gov’ts, but there is a growing movement towards wanting to relive the glory days of soviet pride. communist philosophy is excellent, just extremely naive. it only works if you assume a moral society, and I can guarantee you will never see one on this earth. capitalism, I believe, takes human nature into account to a certain extent by making harmful and selfish activity bad for business. do I think it’s perfect? hell no. it just takes longer to go bad. but at the moment, I believe america’s spiraling towards corporatism and consumerism, which are DEFINITELY dangerous philosophies.
(as a Christian, I believe that communism is flawed in that it makes the GOV’T take care of charitable acts, which should be done out of the goodness of people’s hearts, forming bonds within the community, trust, and self-sufficiency. there’s other parts I disagree with theologically, but I won’t get into that.)
The ‘glory days of soviet pride’ was a dictatorship. There was almost as little Communism going on as Capitalism.
An important note is that you are mixing up Socialism and Communism. TRUE Communism, for clarification, could also be called anarcho-socialism. It is where the entire society relies on all people being as good as people can be, and not because they are told to by some government. Which of course makes things difficult to say the least.
which is why communism will never work on this earth.
“true” communism will always dissolve due to human instinct, and the only way it can be preserved is with force. then you get your dictatorship, a monster that kills in the name of good while corruption swells past the size of anything seen anywhere else.
Again with the ‘we’. Speak for yourself, or at least identify for whom you claim to speak.
When I say ‘we’ are back in a cold war, I refer to the loose alliance of mostly democratic countries that is often called ‘the West’.
We didn’t choose to start the Cold War again. Russia’s ex-KGB dictator did.
No, that would be Soros and the CIA mucking around where they don’t belong that started it. Like we would ever let a Russian billionaire backed by the KGB siphon off our oil. Putin is a crazy, old school commie, to be sure, but this wasn’t unprovoked. The game is bigger than you think.
Ah yes, Soros — the puppetmaster pulling Obama’s strings.
I don’t think Soros controls Putin, though. Putin invaded Gerorgia on his own initiative.
So you’re will to accuse Obama of being a puppet, but can’t see Bush as being just the same? It seems almost impossible for you to see any negatives in Republicans or the Republican Party.
As a citizen of ‘the West’, I don’t feel ‘at war with’ Russia by any means. With respect, Evil, it’s a little impolite to make conjectural assertions like that without identifying them as such.
You don’t get to choose, fjardvax. The russians chose to be aggressive, and now we’re in a cold war with them, like it or not.
You just want there to be a cold war. Russia is being aggressive locally not globally. Globally, they aren’t doing anything more than disagreeing with people. Just because two countries disagree, and one of them takes unilateral measures against a third party, doesn’t make it war between the first two countries. Hot or Cold.
Man, it must really suck to be you!
That’s Lindsey Graham on the right. Not Tom Ridge.
Beat me to it.
me too, lindsey graham is a bigger twit than tom ridge
I’m sooooo glad that someone else recognized that. As if the poster didn’t look ignorant enough with his caption…
Waiting for Evil Pundit and Ema and all the other haters to lambast caption and accuse Obama of being the anti Christ and this sight to be liberal and wah wah wah. It’s coming in 3, 2, 1…
They may still be booting up — it is kinda early.
I saw an alternative caption on the voting page that used The Wizard of Oz characters.
UmmmHmmm labeled “haters”, just because we dissagree…
Only hate I see is in this supposed “lol”.
I’m not sure how anyone can claim this is funny. Calling a bunch of people names isn’t particularly humorous. Is there a pun here? Or some kind of reference to anything in particular? If so, I’m not seeing it. All I see is a bunch of random and inaccurate names floating above peoples heads. Not to mention the morons on this site don’t even know who people are. Tom Ridge LOL. Doesn’t even remotely resemble Tom Ridge.
Heh. The haters are the people who made this vicious ‘lol’ and voted for it.
You’re projecting, DW.
I seem to remember when the point of this site was humor, not mean-spirited name calling. Did I miss a memo or something?
Yeah, the Obamabots neglected to send one out when they took over.
*sighs* I’m an Obama supporter and I said this was lame before anyone else did, yet I’m still called by a derogatory name. There is no winning with some people.
Obviously it doesn’t apply to people that found the picture pathetic to begin with. You, sir, are a winner.
Sorry but Obama supporters who speak for themselves are a relative minority, of course you’re going to get lumped in with the ones who just run around screaming that every Republican is a tyrant, every woman is a trollop or whore, and everyone else is just “dumb.”
I don’t think we’re a minority, I just think partisan politics have gotten just stupid over time on both sides! This pic, unfortunately, doesn’t show us in our best light and it makes me somewhat angry at the creator. Calling people names isn’t funny. It’s got all the wit of a 3rd grader.
*sigh* I wish Ron Paul had a chance.
I dislike ron paul’s ideas, but the truth is if he got elected, he’d try so many ridiculous things and none of them would pass. plus he’d always be at odds with congress, leaving us with basically nothing done. and that, my friends, is a glorious alternative to having mccain OR obama as president. the only problem would be russia, and I think even THEY might leave the dude alone. it’d kinda be like martin van buren’s presidency.
With a dem congress and this admin, I think we already get close to nothing done!
that’s true, to a certain extent. but with ron, I think there’s be less mud thrown back and forth. I’m tired of all the people spending all thier time and energy trying to tear each other down. most people, hen they see ron paul, just are confused.
Most called him crazy, and I think it was just because he was actually passionate about what he was saying and believed it. I guess that would make him crazy to be a politician.
well… yes.
Erm, lolnathan. I’m a woman and I think calling women whores is the antithesis of what it means to be a liberal. I didn’t find this caption all that inspired or funny, and I know that many so-called “liberals” use such derogatory labels.
As I recall, it was a social conservative that called everyone on this site whom supported gay marriage and argued with him about it filthy whores. Why don’t you actually talk to Obama supporters as human beings instead of believing what the media says? The media and the political process have tended to be divise and over-emphasize the differences between people in different political camps rather than commonalities. In Obama’s Audacity of Hope, and on his campaign trails, he’s discussed how problematic this is himself, and has made efforts going back to the state senate to work in a bi-partisan way.
I’ll never call anyone hateful just because we disagree, my father and I disagree on gay marriage, but that doesn’t mean I think my dad is horrible. However, when people think toture is ever justifiable, or treat someone who is more liberal than them as some crazy dumbass that’s going to drag the world to hell with them, I have a serious problem with that. We’d all be better off if we could admit the other side had a point and be less black and white and absolutist about global and domestic issues alike.
true, but I don’t think calling someone a whore is a sign of their political ideals at all. it’s a sign of their lack of manners. that is, unless the woman just propositioned them on the street randomly… then it’s just a statement of fact.
It’s true that it’s not necesarily a political ideal, but it can, in some cases, SOME, not all, reflect an attitude towards women that has a political side to it. I believe that the personal and political are linked.
I see … This is all new to me.
I don’t think any dem on this site has run around calling all women trollops. I have seen a lot of “baby-mama” comments from your side of the aisle though which is demeaning to women and to black people.
As to the tyrant thing … if the nu-ku-lar warhead fits beat the other guy over the head with it eh?
As for dumb, W brings that on himself.
Actually, there was a large segment of the Right that thought the Baby Mama comment was WAY out of line and didn’t get much support from this side of the aisle.
*sighs* I thought I posted a response to this, but somehow, its not here.
I’m an Obama supporters and a liberal, I thought this lol was uninspired, and I think calling anyone “trollop” or “whore” is something no real liberal would do, and something that is generally below the belt in terms of decency. I do know I and others were called whores on here before because we supported gay marriage and argued for it.
I will never call someone a hater just because I disagree with them. But when someone says torture is at any time acceptable and some people deserve it so it’s our right to give it to them, I think that’s morally bankrupt. When I feel like I can’t have a discussion with someone without getting complete vitrol in response, as I get from some people on this site, I think that’s hateful. None of us are some mindless mass of hateful minions to one ideaology or another, stop treating others that way if you don’t want to be treated that way yourself.
Whoops, I guess it just took my previous comment longer to show up, so now I’ve got a double post going on (or is it now a triple?). Sorry folks!
I’m confused here
Calling our troops murders (like at least a handful of democrats have said) should be considered patriotic, but when a democrat decides he’s had enough and switches to an independent he’s a traitor?
I think what he did was smart and great? There! now call me patriotic for disagreeing.
Someone has fed you a mouthful of dung that you have swallowed, and now you are trying to get us to eat it, too.
Please name the Democrats who have called our troops murderers, and tell me where I can find some facts about these name-calling events.
Passing on this kind of foolishness without checking for their truthfulness is a sign that you are not thinking. Save us all some time, and spend some time on FactCheck.org before posting again.
John Kerry. John Murtha.
Google it.
Then wash that dung out of your mouth.
Ah, ah, ah…not true, I will call, loudly, misrepresentation of facts. These specific charges against these specific heros are blatently false.
Yes, Murtha’s specific charges against the specific heroes of Haditha were blatantly false. The soldiers were exonerated, but Murtha has refused to apologize.
And of course, Kerry organized the ‘Winter Soldier’ farce, at which fake veterans told fake stories of fake atrocities.
Sorry for the repeat, but this gets my goat. John Kerry was awarded the SILVER STAR for VALOR. John Murtha was awarded the BRONZE STAR with a Combat “V” for VALOR. These awards were veted within the military awards system and anyone who questions them casts doubt upon the entire awards system, up to and including the highest awards. The statements regarding these distinguised American Heros — true heros, not stupid sports stars, are simply not true, are misleading witht he attempt to influence political bullsh… and I for on will not sit by and allow these statements to go unchecked. Disagree with their politics, disagree with how they look, hell disagree with them because they’re better looking than you, but do not disparage their patriotism…they earned what the got with their blood, sweat and tears.
That’s totally irrelevant. I’m not disparaging their patriotism or their personal achievements.
I’m merely pointing out that these two prominent Democrats have called American troops murderers. That is a simple matter of established fact.
EP, I love ya man, but you and I are going to fight one this one. Lets talk turkey here… basic premeise — every soldier is a hero — not true, every soldier is a citizen upholding their civic responsibiltiy, not always in the best light. as a company commander i had plenty of great guy as soldiers, most were awesome, some were good guys doing dumb things that got them in trouble, some i could save, some i couldn’t, but they were not all heros that line of logic denegrates citizenship and more importantly heroism. second premise, because those two individuals (kerry, murtha) made some judgement calls and subsequent statements, they in fact labeled all other service members as murderers, etc. Again, wrong and dangerous…hold them accountable by all means…but be VERY careful, don’t just accept blanket statements because they fit your requirements… I learned that early in my 20+ years as an intelligence officer… please read past the headlines.
Huzzah for truth and common sense!
(Additional applause)
We seem to be talking at cross purposes here. My point, in reply to MariMac above, is that there are some Democratic politicians who have accused US soldiers of murder.
Here is a quote from MSNBC:
The Marines in question were charged, and subsequently exonerated — but Murtha has not apologized for his accusation.
A bit of googling for “John Kerry Winter Soldier” brings up this quote:
That John Kerry and John Murtha accused US soldiers of committing murder is a simple, documented fact.
We seem to be talking at cross purposes here. My point, in reply to MariMac above, is that there are some Democratic politicians who have accused US soldiers of murder.
Here is a quote from MSNBC:
WASHINGTON – A Pentagon probe into the death of Iraqi civilians last November in the Iraqi city of Haditha will show that U.S. Marines “killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” a U.S. lawmaker said Wednesday.
From the beginning, Iraqis in the town of Haditha said U.S. Marines deliberately killed 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children.
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On Wednesday, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said the accounts are true.
The Marines in question were charged, and subsequently exonerated — but Murtha has not apologized for his accusation.
A bit of googling for “John Kerry Winter Soldier” brings up this quote:
..I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one member of the group of 1,000 which is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and have the same kind of testimony….
I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command….
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
That John Kerry and John Murtha accused US soldiers of committing murder is a simple, documented fact.
Looks like my detailed reply is stuck in the spam filter.
Long story short: TC said at least a handful of Democrats have called American troops murderers, MM demanded examples, I provided two examples.
Google “John Kerry Winter soldier” and “Murtha Haditha” for the exact quotes.
I did. Again I say, think through the BS. I envoke the no-communist rule. I once worked for the greatest boss I ever had, an Infantry Colonel who always felt that over 95% of Americans were not communists. So, with that in mind, he said, most Americans are trying to do the right thing, it was simply a matter of sorting out the details. So with that in mind, do you honestly think that those two great Americans honestly think that all soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines and marines are murderers, or do you think that, perhaps, they were trying to make America a little better? Now, you may disagree with their methods, but lets be clear here… disagree, but don’t dengrate.
No, I don’t think either of them believes that all American soldiers are murderers.
But they both believe that some American soldiers are war criminals. And while some members of any group will inevitably be criminals, I think both Murtha and Kerry exaggerate the problem.
In Kerry’s case, he said that American soldiers were routinely committing atrocities with the knowledge and approval of their superiors. This may have happened sometimes, but I doubt it was a regular thing. And Murth ajudged the Marines at Haditha as being guilty, before the investigation was completed. Subsequently they were exonerated.
So while these two Democrats didn’t accuse all soldiers, they accused some who were in fact innocent.
Now that I can agree with. So with that in mind what were they trying to do? In the 1970′s John Kerry was trying to make a point that he believed was a problem within the American Military, in particular, at that point during the Vietnam conflict. There were certainly problems within the American Military, so much so that young officers, such as myself, who were commissioned in the immediate aftermath of the Vietnam Conflict studied, in quite significant detail, the moral responsibilities of the Officer Corps and how to maintain those morals, despite events on the ground that may or may not affect any leader’s judgement. Additionally, John Murtha, who experienced both moral and immoral applications of military power, I believe, jumped — unjustly — on the Marines in Halitha, but why did he do so? The key to this discussion, in my opinion, is not the headlines, but in where and how we, the USA decide to apply our military elements of national power. In effect, how do we, as a nation, make sure that we are doing the right thing?
Please don’t stop there, you two. This is an interesting discussion, and it’s rare on this site for people to discuss the issues with specific examples and backup information, and without significant namecalling.
Me likey.
Well, I don’t want to dwell too much on past disasters like Kerry.
But while we’re on the topic, a little tidbit from “the next President of America”, Joe Biden, is linked under my name.
Well, to set the record straight, Sen Kerry is not a past disaster. He is a Veteran, a dedicated Hero and a Senator of the United States of America, where the majority of the American’s from his state have elected him to represent them. He did run for the office of President of the United States and was not chosen, however… Agree with him, or disagree with him, your choice. But, if you truly believe in the USA and in the values depicted by the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, then have a little respect for other citizens of this great nation.
I would hardly classify him as ‘dedicated Hero’. He took the most expeditious route to further his political aspirations. When he shows respect to those that served and apologizes for his ‘over the top’ allegations, then he will earn MY respect. But not until then. By the way, what’s your take on Jane Fonda?
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. The United States Navy says he is a recipient of the Silver Star for Valor. If you question this award, you question all awards that the United States Navy has ever approved, including the Medal of Honor. So, do you question all of the US NAvy’s awards? And who the hell do you think that you are to do so?
Oh, and by the way, eddiepscetti, in the event that you are not a totally gutless wonder, in September 2004, the Inspector General of the US Navy’s investigation of Senator Kerry’s awards concluded, “Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed… In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were properly delegated authority to do so. In addition, we found that they correctly followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these awards.”
I never said I question the meaning of the medal(s). Did I say that? No, I said that I would not call John Kerry a ‘Dedicated Hero’. So back your trolly of Righteous Indignation right the hell up. The fact of the matter is, Kerry served all of 4 months in ‘Nam, compared to others who served much longer and with greater dignity. Even Oliver North, who IS a hero, doesn’t have much good to say about John Kerry. Now, I already know the wheels of hate are churning regarding North, but the truth is CF, North served much longer and with greater distinction then John Kerry.
You know what, take your personal attack and shove them straight up your ass, ok? First of all you know nothing of me or my background. So your personal opinion of me means f*ck-all. Resorting to personal name calling puts you in a league far below me. And just for YOUR record, I never ever said that Kerry did not deserve the medals. I only questioned HIS dedication to them. Got it?
Don’t really care. You did question the entire system, you did question John Kerry’s heroism and by asking about my thoughts on Jane Fonda YOU began the insults by questioning my patriotism, as anyone from that era truely knows and understands by the implications of that statement, so save you “moral” indignation, which for people like you is obviously situational at best, for someone who actually cares.
So, when, where and for how lond did you serve?
Oh, and your man Ollie, despite his honorable service in Vietnam violated the special trust and confidence in his patriotism, valor, fidelity and abilities that he swore, “So help me, God.” But I guess your heros can lie under oath and its ok, only democrats are held to any real integrity standards.
*sigh* Whatever, CF, feel free to have the moral highground. Even though it’s shaky at best, and self destructive at worst.
I don’t have the moral highground…never claimed to. My point is and always will be disagree with policies or opinions all you want, leave the BS attacks out of the mix — at least have a little respect and manners. Because when it comes right down to it, anyone can sling the BS and I can certainly sling a lot of it, so if you want to get out a ruler and have a measuring contest, be sure that you know what you are measuring and who you are measuring against. However, if you want to have a discussion, I’ll be glad to do so. But do not ever question my patriotism. I served 23 years, 1 month and 16 days in the United States Army so we can have this discussion, you may disagree, but you don’t have the right to question my patriotism.
I was not questioning your patriotism, it’s not within my scope. But when you resort to calling others “gutless wonders” you are placing yourself in a position of judgement, and that’s just not on. As for Kerry, Murtha, Bush, or any other public figure, it IS within our scope to judge them based on the way they present themselves. Kerry rightfully earned his medals, but I can’t say that he brought honor to them based upon his actions after Vietnam. The entire Vietnam Era was hurtful on so many levels and we just didn’t need a decorated veteran adding fuel to the fire, regardless of his motives.
I’ll play nice if you will do the same. Please read the initial comments within this thread for my thoughts along the lines that you are currently making and we can, and if you desire, we may certainly continue this discussion. However, please be advised, for a person of my background and age, you opened the initial salvo with the Jane Fonda comment. Use it if you want, but make sure that you know what it implies. Just so you know, if we had met in a bar, and if you had said that Jane Fonda comment to me, at least one of us would have left on a stretcher.
Oh and please do not take my comment as a threat. It most certainly is not. My intent is simply to let you know the strength of the insult that you chose to use , which I don’t think that you realized when you made it. When you imply that someone supports Jane Fonda in the context that you did, you in fact are making a very specific and direct insult on that individual’s patriotism, and if you happen to be face to face, you will often encounter very emotional responses. To a veteran, those are not very nice words.
At last words we both agree on! While I respect a persons right to demonstrate, I do not condone giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Also, had I made that comment about Jane in a bar, you would have understood by my tone that it wasn’t a challenge, but a question leading to another question.
Sounds good to me and I apologize for mis-hearing, it is often too loud in here. For the record, I despise Jane Fonda for what she did in N. Vietnam. Her actions were flat wrong. Was she a traitor, according the US Constitution, no, but she was as close as one can get without crossing the line. There is a reason that treason is the only crime specified within the main body of the Constitution and that the two main specifications are listed as well. Our founding fathers were very conscious of what constituted treason, having been accused of it themselves and fully aware of what would have happened to them had they lost. Unfortunately, I have been hearing that word tossed around a little too frequently over the course of the psst 7 years…It is one of our gravest mistakes during these times…if we turn on ourselves, we are surely lost. respectfully, CF
When barak said that our airforce was bombing civilian
“We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops that we are not just air raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.”- Barak Obama
I’m pretty sure no solider would know what he’s talking about, they don’t air raid specifically unless they have CONFIRMED targets.
I commend you TC for saying a handful of democrats instead of ALL democrats. This douchenozzle much appreciates!
I’m slowly learning.
Actually I definately thought of you when I stopped generalizing, thanks for the influence.
You mean Kerry?
I think he said SOME troops in vietnam were murderers and rapists … I believe this has proven out to be true.
You get a large group of people together and give them guns and put them in horrible situations with minimal oversight you will have some people that snap. This doesn’t make all soldiers bad, it doesn’t make all soldiers good. People are fallible. Some of the people that squeak past the psych exams should NOT be in a war situation and should NOT have access to weapons ever.
Most of the soldiers in Vietnam were there for their country doing the best they could to be decent people while fighting a very hard war in terrible conditions. A few were monsters. Can you honestly deny that some Americans over there were monsters? Can you honestly say they should not be punished?
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Same is true in Iraq. Can you look at the prison pictures and say that is not the act of a monster?
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MOST of the troops over there are decent people thrown into a terrible situation doing the best they can. SOME FEW are monsters.
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Walk down a street anywhere in the world and most people will be decent law abiding people. SOME FEW could be monsters.
well said. Abuses by some soldiers are well documented. The Viet Kong weren’t innocent either. War make previously good people do terrible things.
Old quote: Innocence is the first casualty of war.
But yes, in the way you meant the word there were people on both sides committing horrible atrocities. The sad thing is that it probably all started with a very few complete wack-jobs and then the others thought they had to commit even worse acts as vengeance.
In the end you had fairly normal guys doing things that they would NEVER have dreamed of doing in their worst nightmares in the name of revenge against other fairly normal guys who were committing acts THEY would never have dreamed of as revenge against the acts of a very very small group of people on either side that possibly would have been murderers anyway even if there was no war.
I don’t know if you’ve read it but Philip Zimbardo wrote an interesting book about that very phenomena, The Lucifer Effect. It’s a really good study of how situational influences effect our behavior and can make us behave like entirely different people It’s tough at times, because of both subject manner, and some research/psychological jargon, but interesting.
Thanks for the tip, bittervoter. I imagine those younger, greener troops in Vietnam, and Iraq for that matter, find it hard to know what is right when their commanding officers are the ones committing the atrocities.
Good thing their commanders aren’t committing atrocities, then.
The world would be a much worse place if the things lefties believe were actually true.
No more like Murtha, who relates this war to the Vietnam war, and probably would like to make it seem that way as well, I haven’t heard him talk otherwise to want it to be successful, not saying all democrats think that but I wouldn’t be surprised if Murtha was happy that it got even worse over there.
They have been! I’m so glad for military tribunals because a crazy WILL get through and give them a gun and bad things happen. If they didn’t forsee someone snapping there would be no need for military tribunals.
I am in total agreement with you, i’m just saying that often murtha would generalize the troops as a whole based off actions of a very few soliders. Its rediculous.
This picture really isn’t funny. How did it make it off the voting page? Let’s see some more wit and captions that actually take thought rather than ‘har har har…i can call people names.’
“This picture really isn’t funny. How did it make it off the voting page? Let’s see some more wit and captions that actually take thought rather than ‘har har har…i can call people names.’”
The bias of the moderators is showing. The site is in breach of its own so-called editorial standards, i.e., “A picture may not be selected because it’s been done before”, etc., etc. Are there really no wittier submissions than
“Republicans/Democrats are evil” or “Bush is an idiot/Obama is an ignoramus”? If not, this blog just needs to be shut down. There is a far larger world out there to lampoon.
It’s clear that there are many thoughful Americans on both sides of all issues. Why aren’t we submitting better stuff, or rejecting the hateful, repetitive caps? Or is the game just rigged?
R.
that’s all there is to partisen politics, which is what this is based around. though ocasionally there is a refreshing little ray of light that makes you say “wtfrofl”.
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Twit nt b Tom Ridge
Amen. It not be Tom Ridge.
just an observation: when mccain does something that makes him look like a democrat, he’s a “maverick who doesn’t care about party lines, something we need more of in this country.” when liberman does something republican, he’s a “traitor.” him. what’s the problem with having a liberal republican or a conservative democrat? oh, wait, I know – it’s confusing to not be able to look at the letter after someone’s name and know everything about their party-line ideas. the two party system is killing us. real conservatives don’t want mccain, and real liberals don’t want obama – they’re both socialists! the only difference is their foreign policy!
I’ve been a long standing opponent of the two-party system. Since one party always has more power than the other, they basically take turns having control of the country. If there were more parties, or no parties, people would be forced to come to acceptable compromise to get anything done.
I’d like to hope anyone would agree with that. The practice is, sadly, much more difficult.
You say that as though countries with more than two major parties, such as much of Europe, can’t get anything done.
yeah, but I want… um… 4. let’s bring back TR’s bull moose party! haha… that’d be great
Liberal bias fail.
More like Liberal bias win.
Tolerance of other ideas fail.
lol.
HELP! HELP! I’M BEING OPRESSED BY INTOLERANT PEOPLE BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID NASTY THINGS ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN! WAAAAAAAAAHHH!
When did Republicans become perma-victims?
wow…. I’d get you knee checked, Cf — it jerks way too much
slowly, but surely,
everyone in here’s starting to make a little more sense.
well, only a matter of time before someone flames this thing to hell
ha, a tautology, I love it!
It’s actually an alliteration.
wtf kind of outfit DOES she have on??? and this woman wants to be first lady?
Looks like an arm sling over a Doris Day dress. Gives a bit of a Heidi flava but likely she was trying to connect with the “good wife in the home” vibe by channeling the ’50′s
What!? It’s retro, I think she looks pretty.
I think she looks pretty, too, but kinda silly. As any fashionista knows, everything in moderation: with the dress, the chunky necklace, and the sweater, the entire outfit is retro. One piece at a time!
And, dear Lord save me, I just gave a fashion tip on a political site…
I think its the arm sling that adds to the silliness, as well as the fact that by wearing white rather than a black suit she rather stands out. Also the blue necklace with the red from the dress and the cardigan means she’s wearing all the colors of the American flag, which I suppose she thinks will subconsciously send out a patriotic vibe to the voting public.
That said, it doesnt help that with just a quick glance it looks like her hair is in pigtails. I’d have gone with an up do myself.
The tyrant caption just doesnt fit on John though, he looks anything but tyrant-like. In fact there he just looks confused.
Nothing is really inherently wrong with the outfit per say. But a political event is not really the right place for it.
At least she’s not spouting off that ” she’s proud of America for the first time”!
Who cares what she’s wearing? At least she doesn’t hate America, like a certain other First Lady wannabe.
Well, I don’t like the woman by any stretch, but I think that comment (if it’s the one I’m thinking of) was taken a little out of context.
I think Michele Obama’s comment was very revealing. This is, after all, a woman who attended a racist church for 20 years, soaking up sentiments like “God damn America” and “9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost”.
If she — and her husband — didn’t agree with the things Jeremiah Wright said, they wouldn’t have sat and listened for two decades.
with their two young and impressionable daughters at their sides
As usual, any sign of unhappiness with our government is mis-read by EP as meaning you hate America.
As usual, you misrepresent my point of view.
I spelled out two specific statements of hatred for America made by Jeremiah Wright. Michele Obama agreed with those statements, or she would not have sat in that church for 20 years.
You simply ignored the facts I posted in order to misrepresent what I said.
Yes, and anything your pastor has ever said is something that you must always agree with 100%, even if you weren’t present for that sermon. The only other choice is to leave the church and burn it to the ground. There is no middle way.
Obama did leave the church after the story became widely known. Threw the congregation under the bus along with his typical white grandmother and the rest.
He could have done it 20 years ago, when he found out about the hatred and racism being taught there. Instead, Obama donated $20,000 and lied to cover up Jeremiah Wright’s attitude.
If my pastor ever uttered one word that was hate inspired, I would be gone. Period. I wouldn’t have continued to sit at the feet of a spiritual advisor who vehemently incites and condones hate. Obama tried to close the barn door after the fire.
What? First ladies aren’t allowed to churn butter?
I guess if all you have to gripe about are her clothes, she’s about 10 levels above Obama. Why don’t you try and find one good thing Obama’s wife has done for anyone that she didn’t get anything out of.
Grand Slam burn!!!!!
This isn’t a lol. It’s just name-calling. That stopped being funny about 7th grade.
Oh so that’s why your namesake picks on little girls.
What?
I’m guessing that CF just need SOMETHING to say. It will be amusing to see what trivial factoid her claim is based on, if any.
Why do you think CF is a girl? Reading the posts and judging by the name CHARLIE I would think he is a guy.
There is not evidence either way for this person’s gender because Charlie Foxtrot means CF, which might be his/her initials. But there is no evidence of that unless he/she tells us him/herself.
Oh, so you think that the fact that Limbaugh focused one of his first shows after President Clinton was elected entirely on how ugly his then 13 year old daughter was constitutes objective moral reporting. The problem with amoebas like you is that you pretend to be human, yet exihibit no qualities in support of that claim. By the way… get a stable blog identity, because your inability to commit to even an electronic identity confirms your worthlessness.
Your mom was right, CF. You’re a douchebag!
Oh.. I get it… You learned your argumentative abilities in middle school… Your middle school must have had social promotion. Talk to me when you become a big boy, in 10 years or so.
You are right, they switched trollop and twit.
If you hate him how come you don’t know what he looks like. He isn’t in this picture. Moron.
Nah, her boobs are’nt perky enough. Barbie does have the finest doctors.
Not really nice to talk about a woman that way, but since you brought it up, take a look at the lol with Obama eating a hotdog a ways back, what’s with the sunken chest on Michelle?
Um. Cindy? The outfit? NO. Take the cardigan back to 1987 where it belongs. And don’t sass me. I’ll smack that botox clean out of your face.
That’s not Tom Ridge. That’s Lindsey Graham.
I hope McCain comes to your house and bayonets your face. Try submitting a jab at Obama and watch it vanish like a fart in the wind. Booo whoever makes the calls on what gets posted.
“whoever makes the calls” = “all people who vote.”
It’s a vote-driven site, people! If you don’t like it, go to the voting page and vote!
voting page takes so frickin long… better just to come in here and complain
Most anti-Obama lols don’t even make it to the voting page — they’re censored before that.
yea, and that too
How do you know that it isn’t a case of there being far more anti-McCain pics submitted in the first place? It could be 9/10 Obama ones don’t make it through, and 9/10 McCain ones don’t make it through. But 100 McCains are submitted to Obama’s 10.
Obviously I’m making up numbers here, but I hope you get the point.
I”ve submitted a few LOL’s that never even made it to the voting page. Ever. What’s that tell you? If you want to see the one’s I did, click on my name.
Most of the political ones I see there are good. Your cat and dog ones not so much, but that’s not the point.
But still, as I said above and below, how do you know that there isn’t someone else who has sent in a bunch of anti-right wing pics but never saw those get to the votes?
ah, the cat and dog one’s were from ages ago. I just wish the political one’s could have least been voted on. If the general public had slagged them, I would be ok with that.
I’ve submitted at least 10 anti-Obama lols. Only two ever made it to the voting page.
That’s how I know they’re being censored.
But how do you know that there aren’t people who submitted ten
anti-McCain pics and never saw any of those make it to the votes? You notice when yours don’t make it of course, but you have NO WAY of knowing if something similar is happening on the other side.
That’s true, however, judging by the voting, I see very few anti-Obama one’s compared to anti-McCain and Bush.
I just looked through the ones to vote on then, and I saw more anti-Obama than anti-McCain. But more than both of those, I saw lots of versions of the picture of people sitting while wearing multicoloured raincoats.
Huh, what do you know.. I just went through the voting and one of mine finally made it. Not the best of those I’ve submitted, but then it wasn’t of either Obama or McCain.
There’s a bag full of duh! I vote all the time and rarely do I see any anti-Obama LOLs. So I can only conclude that anything against Obama doesn’t make it. Thankfully the comments don’t get edited!
That guy on the end does not look like Tom Ridge, not sure who that is. Wouldn’t Michael Phelps make a great VP?
Hmmm…. he would have more experience and accomplishment than Obama….
Whoever identified #4 as Tom Ridge is wrong… that’s Lindsay Graham from SC…
I don’t think that’s Tom Ridge. I believe that’s Lindsey Ghram, the senator from South Carolina.
Yes, we do. But most anti-Obama macros are censored and do not ever reach the voting page.
I’ve made ten or so, and only two were ever in the voting area. The rest were cut out.
I too have submitted lols that were not later found on the voting page. How does the voting system work, anyone? Is every punter supposed to vote on every caption, or is it a statistical thing?
No- you can submit anything you want, but the web folks at Punditkitchen decide what makes it to the voting page, then what gets onto upcoming, and then, what gets onto the main page. And they heavily censor anything that’s anti-Obama !!!!
So…I guess in the spirit of free speech you may start your own version of Punditkitchen from the conservative perspective…of course, then you can all sit around and talk to each other and complain about how nobody loves you, everybody hates you… wait, I’m sorry, that site already exists and it is called Fox News.
Wow ! Bitter, aren’t we ?
CF had a bad childhood……
Never had a childhood.
Not in the least, I think this website rocks.
Truly sad how we will do their bidding and have all this strife with our fellow citizens over some little snippet they throw out there to keep us divided so they can do whatever they want… Like Jesse Ventura said – politics is just like wrestling – they go out on stage, pretend they hate each other for the cameras and make backroom deals the entire time the public is fooled.
The Twit is Lindsay Graham not Tom Ridge….being from SC i would know that little moron anywhere….
Great caption on this one~!
There are two great statesmen in that photograph. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. The person who made this “lol” is clearly an idiot.
We are extraordinarily lucky to have two great men in government today: Joe Lieberman and John McCain. Thank goodness for them.
And thank goodness we get two great comments from one poster under two names. What extraordinary luck!
you mis-labled Cindy should be ‘twat’
kbai
Um, the last one isn’t Tom Ridge, it’s Lindsay Graham, senior senator from SC. FAIL.
Said before.
FAIL. Read comments, f*ckface.
I know.. ESPECIALLY if the pic is almost a year old. For Fu(ks Sake!
so did macain win elections?
He won the “Creepiest Old Guy Married To Scariest Zombie Queen” Election…
you mean he left the borg queen to marry zombie queen?
so reminded of when he left his first wife and children after she was crippled for much younger wooman