Comments on: i tortured

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:52:18 +0000

And for anyone who took the time to get down here, let me repeat something i’ve said a few times.

If you are saying not to hate on che because of what other countries, including the U.S. have done, then that just means you are condoning what they did AS WELL AS what che did.

I don’t like che, i don’t like it when MY country resorts to underhanded or immoral tactics. Just because the people he fought sometimes used similar actions doesn’t excuse him for what he did.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:47:54 +0000

As if some things that are ‘anti bush’ aren’t propaganda.

Not saying he made the best choices, but he’s not the guy the media makes him out to be any more than obama is.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:31:11 +0000

Not really a good guy who had to do bad things.

If we really want to classify him, he’d be:

A not so great guy, who had good intentions, who went about them in a horrid way, with not so great results.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:15:40 +0000

I feel like posting this again because it’ll be clearer for people who don’t wade through the flame posts.

Maybe i misunderstood you, but the fact that the U.S. government also committed acts like that don’t condone Che’s actions.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:07:25 +0000

Yes, ordering someone to be executed makes you a bad person.

Just because an american who’s government kills people is against che, doesn’t mean they are wrong about che.

I say che shouldn’t be idolized because he was a murderer. I don’t think our government should be ‘idolized’ because it kills people.

Saying ‘but american politicians ordered people killed’ doesn’t support your argument because i’m guessing a lot of us don’t condone our government killing people either.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:17:11 +0000

This is a fantastic mix of che haters who go overboard with what he did and ignorant che lovers who don’t want to listen when told the kind of horrid things che did.

Gotta love PK.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:01:04 +0000

This argument is getting tiresome.
Soldiers kill people. Leaders create wars.

Not all leaders personally go around executing the people condemned because they feel like they wanted to.

By: mavisbeecon

mavisbeecon — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:45:59 +0000

This is a gigantor comment train.

By: QueenOfIrony237

QueenOfIrony237 — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:07:06 +0000

My above comment goes for you too, sir.

By: QueenOfIrony237

QueenOfIrony237 — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:06:30 +0000

Dude, really? Don’t you have anything better to do that be a complete jerk? I happen to know a couple of desperate girls and guys, whatever yur gender preference is. I could always hook you up.

By: jonathan

jonathan — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:05:46 +0000

that was a hilarious moment

By: PiMan

PiMan — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:49:54 +0000

Well, I’ll have to disagree good sir!

By: Drusilla

Drusilla — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:12:01 +0000

Exactly.

By: Drusilla

Drusilla — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:08:51 +0000

A brilliant idea in theory when you are not taking into account human greed and selfishness.

By: Drusilla

Drusilla — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:46:53 +0000

A Centuary ago everybody loved to wear swastikas because they were hindu/shinto/buddhist good luck symbols and I’m guessing that in a centuary from now people will still using the symbol in the original way and not Hitler’s personal logo way. Where wars are forgotten religion prevails. If you want to boycotte things associated with the Nazis, why not boycotte Hugo Boss for designing the SS uniforms, Volkswagen for making cars for the SS elite, IBM for making the locks at the concentration camps or Siemens for creating the gas chambers and trying to trademark the name “Zyklon”. As for Clockwork Orange I’m assuimng the kid was wearing the posterized version of Alex Delarge which is a fantastic piece of graphic design.

By: ay dios mio

ay dios mio — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:30:06 +0000

People may turn a blind eye in the justice system and think they are treating people “fair” but the moment a child abuser gets in prison you better believe the real world kicks in and they get exactly what’s coming to them via the other inmates.

By: someguy

someguy — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:41:04 +0000

when people started to smoke pot and when high school students started to have a third grade reading level.

By: someguy

someguy — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:52 +0000

uh, i am wearing one right now. also i am not a pacifist and i have read his book “guerrilla warfare”.

By: someguy

someguy — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:33:09 +0000

uh, yes we do. i am wearing one right now.

By: not so much

not so much — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:48:27 +0000

Nah, most people who wear Che T-shirts in Latin American believe in armed revolution against US corporate interests and the CIA. Sort of the opposite of pacifism.

By: Paxton

Paxton — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:17:03 +0000

I am not a pacifist, although I disagree with this caption. he did not torture people just because the disagreed with him. seriously read a book people.

By: phelan511

phelan511 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:56:44 +0000

my convoy in iraq got hit by a handicapped person. she was sent out in to the road and they remote detonated her suicide vest

By: Thomas B.

Thomas B. — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:14:04 +0000

One of the best lols. And absolutely correct. Thanks.

By: xxa

xxa — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:41:38 +0000

you spelt ‘implies’ wrong.

By: Elton

Elton — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:01:49 +0000

Tell me the name of an US president, in the last 40 years, that don´t supported any dictadorship. CIA torture and kill people around the world every day.
In my country (Brazil) we had a violent, US backenned, millitary dictadorship. The CIA trainned brazilian torturers.
If, in spite of it, you proudly wear the US flag colors, let me use my nice Che tshirt.
(Sorry for my bad english).

By: AlauraBorealis

AlauraBorealis — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:03:31 +0000

“A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love, it is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality”
~ Ernesto Che Guevara

“Let the world change you, and you can change the world”

~Ernesto Che Guevara

enough said.

By: Alvaro

Alvaro — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:16 +0000

the ignorance that we have in certain things make us insignificant in comparison with others that know what they are talking about, this guy is death, El Che is death, and thats it! but we can learn about what he did, and more important why he die! read , learn and , read, and if you teach to the world something that make it better you will be doing more than just talk about somebody, act, bether than jus criticize or ofend, blessings and lets change the world !!

By: jackie

jackie — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:18:47 +0000

not a communist he was a socialist

By: jackie

jackie — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:16:58 +0000

um k shows how much u acually know. he wasnt a commie he was a socialist

By: merlykins

merlykins — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:35:07 +0000

Solution – steal the t-shirts!

By: Achtundachtzig

Achtundachtzig — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:18:16 +0000

He also surrendered with a fully loaded gun. Woo! Great revolutionary, right there.

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:13:14 +0000

There is no fail here… Planet of the Apes was a GREAT movie
(thank you American Dad for that joke)

By: monado

monado — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:00:45 +0000

And now he’s being prayed to as a saint.

By: Henk

Henk — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:54:40 +0000

What if there is no God?

By: Bertico

Bertico — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:04:06 +0000

yeah right like americans r angels, invadin another country, killing kids, women men……….its stupid to say u want to end terrorism with terrorism……..so why u critize the Che

By: Jackie Papers

Jackie Papers — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:51:50 +0000

That caption is as funny as telling the same Bush jokes as we told in 2001. I’ve heard more wit out of George Clooney’s mouth.

By: Dana

Dana — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:26:31 +0000

I’m a former Army soldier, daughter of a Navy sailor, granddaughter of a WWII vet and great-niece of another one. You didn’t fight to “give” us ANYTHING. We already had it thanks to a bunch of liberal LAWYERS most of whom had never been in combat their entire LIVES.

Got that? LAWYERS WROTE THE CONSTITUTION.

But tell yourself what you need to hear so you can keep on shooting little brown kids. There’s a reason I’m no longer in. I don’t like being anyon’es pawn. The military is supposed to be for national defense.

And we’re supposed to be the good guys. That means we honor human rights NO MATTER WHAT. It’s called having good character. I don’t think we’ve ever had that. But I sure wish we did. We were supposed to be the shining beacon on the hill or some crap like that. We were supposed to be the example to everyone else. Example of what? How to be flaming a-holes?

By: Merry

Merry — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:20:38 +0000

I just wanna say that most of you don’t undesrtand the context because you don’t live in a 3rd world country. That’s all. I like Che because he fought things that were really wrong, and I respect him for that. You may argue that he was carried away by his ideas, by his methods, maybe there was not other way. But you can never EVER say, that he was a bad man. What do you know about south american history? only your fitered version.
Of course you may disagree, but that’s my perspective of one man who traveled all around south america helping people, do you even know he was a doctor who helped poor people for free?
Nice discussion nevertheless.

By: Sandragoras

Sandragoras — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:09:12 +0000

How curious! gringo scruples…

By: Person

Person — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:25:27 +0000

Right on

funny how certain people are for inalienable rights except when it means they don’t get their way.

some people have an evil agenda and they don’t even know it.

By: Person

Person — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:20:27 +0000

ha! zing

By: Charlie Foxtrot

Charlie Foxtrot — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:40:59 +0000

So you obviously don’t believe in any use of military force for any reason. Using your arguement, your nation should dissolve their army, dissolve their police force and ask criminals to please go to jail. If your answer is no, then you do believe that societies have the right to protect themselves, therefore they have the right to use deadly force to do so. If this is true, then, using an established procedure, societies have the right to eliminate threats. My only problem with the use of the death penalty within the US is the procedures are not well thought out and applied unevenly.

By: Jiddi

Jiddi — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:17:37 +0000

More like, “Predictable fail.”

Meh.

By: PiMan

PiMan — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:09:24 +0000

Nobody needs to be killed. Capital punishment is bad.
The harshest punishment that I think should ever be given to a criminal, is life in prison with a chance of parole. Taking away a person’s life, either immediately or drawn out over decades is cruel.
Most first world countries agree with me about the death penalty, none do about life in prison (but Italy appeared to be headed in this direction last I heard)

By: ice_army

ice_army — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:43:14 +0000

That’s the same story covered by two different television stations. They say the same thing, verbatim. I was thinking of something a bit more recent , as in the last couple of months, not back in febuary.

By: MaxArt

MaxArt — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:37:29 +0000

Thank you, I actually knew that a Che Guevara’s fan may not be a pacifist.
By the way, your son admires a guerrillero *and* is not a pacifist… I’d be a little worried if I were you!

By: MaxArt

MaxArt — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:32:45 +0000

Yeah, I actually missed that part. The world is so strange.

By: bluedogz

bluedogz — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:58:42 +0000

All people that wear a Che shirt are pacifists? Isn’t that like all marathon runners wearing Marlboro shirts? When and how did Che become a pacifist icon?

By: ryszard

ryszard — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:49:08 +0000

Typical of what exactly?

You want context? Here’s the search page I worked from. You could have done the same; instead you chose to make a generalization about something–without context. Is that typical of you?

By: ryszard

ryszard — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:35:12 +0000

Please cite sources.