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On My Honor


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On My Honor I Do Solemnly Swear I Don’t Know What The VP Does

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  1. SPLINTR says:

    FIRST AND YOURE NOT

  2. Blarter says:

    This is not funny.

    • not-so-sullen-girl says:

      Why is this not funny (unless you mean “not funny because it’s scary)? Just a short period of time before Palin’s candidacy was announced, she admitted to an interviewer that she didn’t know what the VP does.

      • Phaelin says:

        That’s more than Obama can say for himself.

      • Jami says:

        It’s not funny cause it’s not true. She actually has MORE experience then Obama and Clinton. So it’s hypocritical to whine about her “lack” of it. Also you know as long as people remain divided over the Obama/Clinton thing McCain WILL WIN. There is no unity in the dumbocratic party. The only way Obama will win is to show Hillary for the scumbag rapist protecting piece of trash she is and turn everyone against her. Expose all her crimes. Present a united front against her. Distribute copies of the Clinton Cronicles and Target: Caught In The Crosshairs Of Bill & Hillary Clinton to everyone. That’s his only hope.

        But since he’s too cowardly to show her for the criminal she is so he can win, you might as well get used to it – McCain will be president and Palin will be VP.

        • bootlegmarkchapman says:

          Yeah, distributing Republican hate literature would be a good step for the Democratic presidential candidate. It seems so obvious now.

        • n8 says:

          So, to sum that up: WHARRGARBL!
          She’s got the experience of two terms as mayor of Podunk, Alaska, and less than that as governor. Obama was correct to assert that he’s had more experience than that just running his campaign!
          And I think you’ll find a whole lot more unity in the Democratic ranks right now… we’re all united in nearly pissing ourselves laughing at your dumb asses, as you figure out what to do about this albatross McCain has hung about your necks.
          If I were on your side of this election, I’d be feeling really betrayed right about now.

          • n8 says:

            Just keep telling yourself that, buddy. Keep eating the bullshit up with a spoon and telling yourself it’s pudding.

            Obviously, Obama has more experience, and more applicable experience at that. The US Senate is a national-level body, the governor of Alaska is a regional authority.

            I agree, McCain’s health is an issue. Should he be incapacitated (think Ariel Sharon), Palin would now be President. There is nothing to suggest that she is in any way ready for that office.

            Palin, a reformer? More likely she would reform us back into the dark ages. She’s a woman opposed to women’s rights, a real fundie barbarian.

            Obama has made no threat against the second amendment. He noted that some people use it for a security blankie against the big, mean world. Strike a little close to home?

            • n8 says:

              Yep, I got filter pwned. Sucks to be me.

              • Brad says:

                Obama has voted against the second amendment in every office he has ever had the power to do so. ANY vote for gun restrictions is unconstitutional

                Obama also voted in 1996 to ban the manufacture, sale, and ownership of firearms when he was a state senator. He wants to disarm the citizens of our country which WILL leave them at the mercy of criminals. there is a direct correlation of crime rates and gun restriction as well, the more guns are restricted, the more violent crime rates, general crime rates, and gun crime rates escalate.

                And Sarah has more experience running an EXECUTIVE position than Obama has. She’s been a mayor, she’s been governor. She has the highest approval rating of any governor in the US, and she is also one of the most successful. You should really get your facts straight before you try to argue with me.

              • Jenna says:

                Worse to be the rest of us who have to endure the stink that comes out of your mouth every time you open it.

            • pjl says:

              how did obama win his first election.he had his opponent(st.sen. palmer)taken off the ballot.palmer ,the incumbent st.sen.,ran for u.s. congress lost her bid then hurried tried to get on the ballot to retain her st. sen. seat.obama’s campaign challenged her signature pettion.”chicago dem. machine polotics”.obama’s campaign eliminated the incumbent this way.how did obama win the u.s.senate race.the republican candidate Ryan took himself off the ballot after the cook county court unsealed ryan’s divorce records,after the chicago trib filled suit under the freeom of information act.the divorce records show that the candidate at one time had taken his wife to an adult sex club.Ryan was replaced on the ballot,two months before election day,by allen keyes.the only elections obama won,he did it by eliminating his opponent

          • n8 says:

            Just keep telling yourself that, buddy. Keep eating the bulls–t up with a spoon and telling yourself it’s pudding.

            Obviously, Obama has more experience, and more applicable experience at that. The US Senate is a national-level body, the governor of Alaska is a regional authority.

            I agree, McCain’s health is an issue. Should he be incapacitated (think Ariel Sharon), Palin would now be President. There is nothing to suggest that she is in any way ready for that office.

            Palin, a reformer? More likely she would reform us back into the dark ages. She’s a woman opposed to women’s rights, a real fundie barbarian.

            Obama has made no threat against the second amendment. He noted that some people use it for a security blankie against the big, mean world. Strike a little close to home?

            • Lucky Bob says:

              Yeah, the Senate is a national-level body, but being governor carries with it *executive* experience. That’s something you can’t say for Obama, Biden, or even McCain. Plus Palin went against members of her *own party* to fight corruption and greed. McCain did the same thing in the Senate. If you want change, you need to forget party loyalty and reach across to the other side. Why do you think Lieberman is supporting John McCain?

              • n8 says:

                That’s a decent argument (re: executive experience) but if that’s the goal, McCain had 49 other governors to choose from, he might have found a lot more executive experience with one of them. I would also have recommended he find one that wasn’t currently under an ethics investigation, and one that wasn’t currently being bit on the ass by the policies she’s advocated (re: baby).

                Lieberman is a Republican in all but name. I think some cross-party goodness could have aided Obama, though, in the form of Lincoln Chaffee or Colin Powell, but Biden was a solid pick.

                • Lucky Bob says:

                  But if you use the argument that more experience is better, then John McCain has Obama beaten hands down. On the other hand, if you argue that Obama is the youthful politician that is removed from the corruption of Washington and wants to change government for the good…then the same can be said of Obama!

                  All I am saying is that it’s funny that both sides are using the experience attack against the other. Democrats cannot say that Palin lacks in experience, when it is clear that Obama does as well. The same for Republicans! It’s an interesting political move, eh?

                  As for the ethics investigation, it will be interesting to see what becomes of that.

                  • Lucky Bob says:

                    “…then the same can be said of Obama!”

                    I meant Palin…

                  • n8 says:

                    It’s an odd situation, to be sure. I think the Republicans have mooted their best line of attack; they’ve as much as said “Fine, we admit that experience doesn’t matter.” Meanwhile, the Democrats are taking everything that the Republicans threw at them over Obama’s perceived lack of experience and throwing it right back, with the extra added charge of hypocrisy to help it stick.

                    It helps that no less a conservative luminary than David Frum has said that Palin’s experience makes Obama look like George C. Marshall.

              • PortlandMark says:

                Sarah Palin actually hired the firm run by Ted Stevens son to lobby *for* the “bridge to nowhere” money. Her personal account representative was Ted Stevens’ former chief of staff. Once she got the first installment of $$$ it became apparent that this project wouldn’t go forward, so she canceled the program and *KEPT THE MONEY*! I’m sorry, you were saying she’s a reformer? Haven’t seen the evidence of it yet…

                • herb says:

                  She reformed pork-barrel projects. When she began, there weren’t many worth mentioning, but she fixed that machine to pump barrels of fed money into her state coffers.

          • Trainwreck Chaser says:

            n8
            I guarantee that if this was a Democrat that had the love people have for Obama being Alaska would be of the utmost importance.

            You belittle her just cause you think the state you’ve never been to isn’t impotant
            Such tolerance you show.

            What about the governors we’ve elected to presidency….It just astounds me how little people know about the history of our presidents…..

            • n8 says:

              Wait, what? Can I have that in English, please?

              • herb says:

                He’s saying that ripping on the insignificance of a governor’s state is a no-no… unless they do it (cf. the trash talked of two-term Governor Dean of Vermont prior to the ‘scream’ fix). “If you do what we did, you’re mean!!”

          • Wayne says:

            Best said, Amen.

          • Wulf says:

            Two things:
            1) “And truthfully who wins presidential elections? The last time a senator won
            the presidential election was Kennedy. KENNEDY!!!”

            Umm… either way it goes in November, it’s going to be won by a senator.

            2) “And fourthly, would I rather vote for a proven reformer, someone who
            battles big oil,”

            Palin’s husband works for BP, and sat in on gubernatorial meetings with her on energy policy. That’s what we call a conflict of interest. She doesn’t battle big oil – she supports it. She’ll do what will make Big Oil more money (which is why she supports drilling in Alaska’s wildlife reserve). It’s the same situation we’ve had for the last 8 years on a smaller scale – Bush and Cheney’s closest friends are oilmen.

          • Urgburger says:

            If the second ammendment is so important, then how come after all the crap that’s happened with Washington all these years, has it never once been used by the public to threaten the government into getting its arse in shape?

            Look at Japan – no guns allowed, extremely low crime rate. America – guns allowed, crime rate is high. Gun nuts say they want to be able to shoot animals and stand up against the gov’t. So far, all they do is shoot animals. Hmmm.

            • ema says:

              Japan is a completely different culture than ours, I don’t think it is a fair comparison. I wonder if the crime rate would even change if they did allow guns.

              • Urgburger says:

                While I’ll agree that Japan is different and giving them guns might not change their crime rate much, keep in mind that Japan was occupied by the US after WWII and took it upon themselves to change their political and economic systems around, adopting many Western values. Their culture is different, but not so radically that they can’t comprehend the idea of using a gun to kill. They are human, after all, and humans are good at killing.

                But that ignores the main point of my post. I still don’t see why so many conservative Americans scream “Second Ammendment” and say they need their guns to fight back against a corrupt government, when all guns owned by civilians in the US are used for are hunting animals and shooting other people. After all the corruptions that have been exposed within the current administration, not a single person has cried “2nd Ammendment” and done something about it. Is it really important that a politician is an NRA member and totes guns around, to what…appeal to a Moose burger-eating fanbase? Could you imagine Palin saying: “This is my Second Ammendment right. Now try and fight me.” :P

                I think it’s just stupid that someone would vote for a politician because they own guns and like to hunt. So what? Maybe McCain likes videogames. I do too, but that doesn’t make me want to vote for him. Not like I’d ever play against him in Pac-man or anything!

        • DW says:

          OMG, you’re an idiot. Does it hurt?

        • bittervoter says:

          There’s little I would say that hasn’t already been said by n8, but I might add, Alaska, not to diss it, has 650,000 people total (I believe that’s the correct number). Most major american cities have more people than that. By that argument, a mayor is more qualified to be VP than she is.
          I would also say that both Obama and Biden have experience at the national level, as well as years of experience at lower levels. Obama’s record in the state senate and up is also full of bipartisan work, and support of veterans benifets, something McCain supporters conveniently ignore.
          Palin is also under an ethics investigation, and is not protecting the enviornment in Alaska at all, allowing the aerial shooting of wolves etc. Most hunters actually believe in conservation, but not Palin apparently. Some sources say McCain really wanted to pick Liberman as his VP, but since Liberman is not a social conservative, and Palin’s husband is an oil man, it appears that the party pressured McCain into picking Palin.
          And if, as some say, McCain dies soon into his term, do we really want this woman taking over? Somehow I think not, though I realize there are people here I will NEVER see eye to eye with.

          • bittervoter says:

            Might I also add, that “abstinence only education”? Yeah, that clearly did her daughter *a lot* of good. Since there will always be teenagers having sex, I’d rather they have the knowledge to keep them safe and pregnancy free.
            Palin seems to be a tough cookie, and yes, objectvely, what she’s done so far is impressive, but that doesn’t mean she’s qualified to be vice president of the most powerful nation on earth, especially when she has ties to a party that wants to suceed from said nation.

            • Lucky Bob says:

              So comprehensive sex education bring the pregnancy rate down to zero? And if Sarah Palin did believe in comprehensive sex education, that would mean her daughter would NOT be pregnant? How can you know that?

              And by your same reasoning, Obama is not qualified to be president of the most powerful nation on earth.

        • jasper says:

          I think that by not using smear campaigns shows a better person, that is just me. There are campaigns going around on TV right now with people saying omg he did this , omg he did that. And then there is a campaign commercial that says this is who I am, this is why I want to do this… etc. Without having any knowledge of what the person wants to do I would vote for them. Just saying to me using all the accusing and such makes you seem like a fourth grader even if it is true. Tattle Tail.

        • momw/brains says:

          That’s the great thing about the Dems, they don’t go on a smearing spree when things get tough. I watched Palin speak, she is poised and very well trained. Her error? She was very sarcastic and bordered on rude in her digs at Michelle and Barack; not very ladylike……..

        • Kellyjdrummer says:

          @Jami, without any regard to the rest of the crap in your post, it seems that you are implying in your first sentence that Obama and Clinton have less experience than Sarah, not only by the verbs, adverbs, nouns etc. you use, but also due to you not knowing the difference between “then” and “than.” You DO understand this, right?

      • imitation tofu says:

        Maybe she should stop talking about censoring books and read them instead.

      • Zaggs says:

        its scary in the fact you take one line out of a response and act as if it is the entire response. Her ENTIRE response was “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”.
        its known as Rhetorical.
        The VP only has 2 official jobs, breaking tie votes in the senate and hoping the president dies. Thats not everyday (and surely not active) and anyone would be hard press to define the daily job as it changes per president. Al Gore and Dick Cheney have completely different jobs.

        • circle square says:

          You’re right, Dick Cheney had to make Bush talk by stuffing a hand up his ass.

        • n8 says:

          Yes, because no one has EVER done that to Obama! Taking statements out of context… such an unprecedented move. Has that ever been done before, in the whole of political history? What villain would ever do such a thing?

          • bittervoter says:

            Yes, the whole “bitter people in pa” debacle and Michelle Obama’s “for the first time in my adult life, I’m -really- proud of my country” weren’t taken out of context and misinterpreted at all. ;) Even after Laura Bush stepped up and defended Michelle Obama.

          • Lucky Bob says:

            So that makes it right? I did not appreciate it when the media did that to the Obamas, and this is just as bad.

    • jellybeans says:

      Actually it is funny cause it is true.
      -
      And I don’t think being mayor of a town of 5,000-8,000 (depends on the paper) qualifies as presidential experience. Especially since her first year was spent firing anyone who disagreed with her then replacing them with toadying cronies.
      -
      Yay for political change!

      • DW says:

        I love how Republicans claim they don’t like pork or big business, then turn around and fund bridges to nowhere, in, um ALASKA. Is this the prez you want when McCain dies after he chokes on a pretzel? OK Obama haters, you’re up in 5, 4, 3…

        Come on, show all the nice people what haters and morons you are…

        • Brad says:

          Like it’s possible to enter into an intelligent conversation with you?

        • Lucky Bob says:

          I’m no Obama hater, but at least get your facts right. The bridge you speak of was pushed by members of the Alaskan congressional delegation. Rep. Don Young and Sen. Ted Stevens were the most vocal about it and helped push for federal funding. Yep, both Republicans.

          Sarah Palin did support the bridge at first to promote the economy of the area. But as estimated costs for the project skyrocketed, SHE was the one that pulled the plug. She is also known for taking on corrupt, spend-happy *Republicans* and kicking them out of government.

      • Brad says:

        Wow…she’s the GOVERNOR of Alaska, fighting corruption, big oil, and moose ;].
        Exactly what she was elected for, that’s more honesty than you can find in all
        of Washington.

      • herb says:

        don’t forget quintupling the number of meth labs.

    • Robert says:

      It’s quite funny, actually.

  3. bootlegmarkchapman says:

    This doesn’t even mention her pregnant daughter. FAIL :(

    • Phaelin says:

      Why should it? What’s the big deal about having a 17-year-old daughter that’s pregnant when the daughter and boyfriend plan to get married and, to reiterate, she’s 17. That’s hardly too young to be saying “oh look, her kid’s a slut”. Which seems to be the angle those liberals are taking with this. I think it’s fairly safe to say that getting pregnant at 16 and up hardly makes you a morally-deprave person. You’d be hard-pressed to go to any school in the U.S. with at least 600 kids and not find a pregnant person. You’d be lucky if you found only three. It happens, it’s not bad by any means, and those asshats that are trying to make it out to be more than it is should be ashamed of themselves. To be honest, it makes her look more like the average American mother than anything. Another point – why are those douchenozzles trying to make this out to be Palin’s fault? Is this supposed to make her a horrible mother? Would you rather her force her daughter to abort it? I should think not. What horrible morals to sink so low as to attack the daughter AND make it look like the mother’s fault. A crying shame. (I’m not directing this at you, bootleg, but more so at the people that eat this shit up and agree with it, so don’t take offense. :P )

      • n8 says:

        Wouldn’t be news at all, except that Palin is a huge advocate of abstinence-only sex education, and a staunch opponent of a woman’s right to choose.

        It highlights the fact that Palin’s chosen policy is an abject failure. Teens are not going to abstain from sex (assuming they can get any.)

        • daveynelson says:

          So what? Are you saying that Obama would have forced his girls to have abortion in similar circumstances?

          • n8 says:

            Sense. Your comment makes none. Obama hasn’t been a proponent of abstinence-only sex-ed, so if one of his daughters turned up pregnant, he would not be getting bitten by the irony bug.

            Besides which, pro-choice does NOT mean mandating that all fetuses must be aborted. It means giving the pregnant woman THE CHOICE to not have the child. If she wants to have it, she can make that choice. See? That’s why we call it pro-choice and not pro-death! Now you know… and knowing is half the battle!

            • Lucky Bob says:

              Actually, wouldn’t it have been WORSE? The fact that his daughters would have had ALL the information they needed, and still ended up pregnant? That’s why you can’t throw ALL of the blame on Palin for her daughter’s choices.

      • lol says:

        Nah, I’m just laughing at all those repub idiots who always brag about how they’ve cornered the market on morality. Guess not, huh?

      • Jane St.Clair says:

        *sigh* Why do we have to keep going over this. NO ONE is saying Bristol Palin is a slut and NO ONE is saying she should have an abortion; stop putting words in people’s mouths. What people ARE saying is that many teenagers have sex, making sure the have knowledge about and access to contraceptives means that if teenagers with all the facts about sex STILL choose to go ahead and do it there is less of a chance of them contracting an STD or getting pregnant before they are intellectually and emotionally ready for a child. Not to mention getting married “for the sake” of said child. That girl is NOT a slut, she is a teenager who did what a lot of teenagers do and she should be looking forward to going off to college and having fun and being a kid. Instead, thanks to her mother’s abstinance only education she doesn’t have the luxury to put off marriage until she’s SURE she is ready. All of this says nothing about Bristol Palin and her choices and everything about how Sarah Palin thinks we should teach our children.

        • jasper says:

          Sing it sista!

        • bittervoter says:

          Dang skippy! Plus, I can’t help but think that if one of Obama’s daughter’s was pregnant (and old enough to be), the republicans would be ALL OVER IT, crying about depraved liberals, yadda yadda.
          I don’t think it’s terrible that this girl is pregant, I feel sorry for her for being in this position, and I feel sorry for her for being stuck with such a terrible name! But I think she’s an example of the flaws in the belief system Palin ascribes to and wants us all to ascribe to. I also find the other dirt on Palin, being linked to cessationists, supporting the bridge before she opposed it, ethics investigations, her lack of any foreign policy experience and her socially conservative outlook much more troubling.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            I think the name Bristol is kinda cute, actually, but then I am a teacher so I have seen a lot worse. ;)

            I’m with you, I do feel very sorry for her, I can’t imagine being married at 17, especially when I think of the guys who tried to talk me into having sex when I was that age!

      • pbr says:

        Here are my issues with this whole affair (and I hold no party affiliation).

        This country does not allow people to vote until they are 18, or drink until they are 21. Are we saying that raising a child is a lesser responsibility than those two activities?

        Parenting in this day and age is very tough. Indeed, to survive in this world, one should have all the benefits of education that can be provided. It is a very sad fact that most teenagers who become pregnant drop out of school. I have no doubt that Governor Palin’s daughter will continue her education (most likely while a staff of nannies funded by the government tends to her child). But the families of the leaders of this nation should be role models for its citizens. I don’t believe this family provides a strong role model.

        I believe that this is not the right time for Governor Palin to consider the world of national politics. I believe she should remove herself from the Republican ticket to spend more time tending to her family. She has a new baby that will need his parents. She has a daughter who will soon have a child of her own, and who will need her parents’ strength and support. From the few statements of hers that I have read, she seems to seek out the big challenges and hard work on a grand scale. Perhaps she needs to turn that drive and energy toward raising her family. There will be time for her to take on greater national challenges in the future.

        • Lucky Bob says:

          Right. And Obama should do the same, because he has two daughters at home.

          Really, it’s just sexist that people would argue this. Men have families too, but they’re not responsible for the upbringing of their children?

          • pbr says:

            Careful… I never said SHE ALONE was responsible for the upbringing of her children. I said she and her husband have a baby and a teenage daughter who will need BOTH their parents. If Obama, Biden, McCain or any politician for that matter had children in the same sort of need, I would seriously question their priorities as well.

            My opinion is not sexist. I feel this way not because Palin is a woman, but because I happen to think choosing to raise a family means making a commitment to that family, above all other commitments. And choosing to run for the second-highest political post requires making the same serious commitment to this country. In this case, I simply think her commitment to her family should come before any others.

            • ema says:

              So you are saying Palin’s husband should also quit his job and stay home so the baby can have BOTH parents?

              • pbr says:

                If his job carries the awesome weight of running an entire county and responsibility for hundreds of millions of lives, then yes. As I stated, I would expect the same from any person — male or female — whose children have similar parental needs.

                I am by no means a fundamentalist. I simply believe that society has lost sight of the tremendous responsibility that raising a family requires, and has devalued the role (or “job”) of being a parent.

              • pbr says:

                Also, I never suggested that Governor Palin quit her job nor stay at home with her children. I merely recommended that she remove herself from consideration for the role of Vice President of the United States of America to devote more time to children who clearly need the support of both parents.

                • ema says:

                  So she would make the way clear for an Obama presidency, right? How did I guess…

                  • pbr says:

                    I repeat, I hold no party affiliation. You seem to imply that Sarah Palin is the ONLY person John McCain could have possibly picked to defeat the Obama/Biden team. That seems kind of bad for the Republicans, I think.

                    I just looked at the words “defeat” and “team”. I don’t like to think of the election of the leaders of our country as a competition, where one candidate must win over the other. “Vote for McCain ‘cuz Obama sucks!” (Or vice versa.) It makes me sad that people actually vote AGAINST a candidate and not FOR a person’s ideals, vision, leadership qualities. But then, I also used to hope for a day when people would vote for a candidate him/herself and not because of the “(D)” or “(R)” after the name on the ballot… Oh, what silly dreams make up our youth…

                  • momw/brains says:

                    She has no baring on Obama winning or losing; she stands so far to the right of what anyone in his camp (or even Hillary) stands for that anyone who was “on the fence” after Hill lost has now jumped off the fence and on to the Obama band wagon…..she would set women back hundreds of years!

              • momw/brains says:

                It is unreasonable to believe that both parents can NOT work so the kid has both parents. Typical for “radicals” to twist and change meanings to justify thier point. As a mom I have to agree that a mother (in most cases) is the main caregiver; not right or wrong just how it is. My husband and I both work full time jobs but we get home, my job isn’t over. The kids love us both, but they depend on me more; I am mom. Not sexist, just fact.

    • eddiepscetti says:

      Just because a parent tries to instill values into their kids life (I know I did with mine), there comes a time when they are just going to do what they want. Short of locking her daughter in her room starting at the age of 12, how can Palin be held responsible for what her daughter does? It’s fine to say that Palin’s abstinence-only policy failed, but truthfully, you’re holding her to task over something she no control over.

      • dude im on it says:

        If she had taught her about safe sex practices, THEN I’d say she had no control over it. However, since she was denying her daughter that information, I think she’s got a bit of responsibility in that.

        • Jane St.Clair says:

          You took the words out of my mouth! Not only denying her daughter that info but she STILL thinks abstinance only education is the way ALL of us should teach our kids.

          • eddiepscetti says:

            So basically you both are saying that Bristol led a cloistered life? Never had friends, never watched TV, never had one singluar thought of her own? Jane, you never talked about sex with your friends? I know I did, and I sure as hell knew about condoms when I was a teenager and that was eons ago. As for abstinence, I taught my boys that it’s the safest alternative, but if they are going to sow their oats, for God’s sake use protection. Maybe Palin didn’t, but the fact is, I don’t believe for one second that Bristol was ‘clueless’.

            • dude im on it says:

              I wish to GOD my parents had told me what’s up! I talked to friends, but they didn’t know everything. I wish I had a responsible adult who told me about the risks. You can’t just let teens talk amongst themselves. There’s an invincibility factor going on there that is DANGEROUS.

              • eddiepscetti says:

                You right and if I was implying that I apologize. What I trying to say is that her only source of information goes beyond the parents. I was lucky, my dad did the Father/Son thing so I knew what was going on. And thankfully this was before the age of AIDS/HIV.

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              Oh yeah, I want my kids to get information about sex from t.v. and their friends. That is GREAT idea. As for my own sex education my parents made sure I knew what I needed to before I had my first period. My high school had a very good sex education program as well. I’m glad you told your sons that although you didn’t agree with them having sex that if they did the should use a condom. What you should know though, is that proponants of abstinance only education do not believe you should tell your children to use a condom as this encourages them to have sex.

              • Phaelin says:

                Which is just silly, really. Abstinence-only education is a horrible idea, I’ll agree with you on that one no doubt.

                • ema says:

                  Why is it horrible? Teenagers should be concentrating on school and getting into college, not sex for crying out loud. I think all the options should be there but abstinence should be encouraged.

                  • herb says:

                    Let’s dissect this, shall we?

                    Phaelin: “Abstinence-only education is a horrible idea…”

                    ABSTINENCE-ONLY = only teach children to abstain from sex = not teach them, or make available, alternatives

                    Ema: “Why is it horrible? … I think all the options should be there but abstinence should be encouraged.”

                    ALL-OPTIONS-AVAILABLE =/= ABSTINENCE-ONLY

                    • ema says:

                      this was reading comprehension fail on my part, i want all options available

                      • Jane St.Clair says:

                        Then you don’t support abstinance only education. People who support a full and comprehensive sex education program DO support the idea of encouraging abstinance as the only way to prevent pregnancy and STDs 100% of the time. They, like you, think that once you’ve gone over (and over and over) that they should certainly have the rest of the facts and options available to them before they start mingling with the other hormone crazy teenagers.

                        • herb says:

                          S’what drives me nuts about ema: she doesn’t recognize how truly liberal she is. She’s unfortunately fallen for all that crap about Lefties being gun-banning, baby-aborting, lesbian vegans when most of us just want the chance to make the right decision.

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          Lefties aren’t all that? Damn, there goes my theory! Just kidding, herb. While politically you and I aren’t in total agreement on most issues (not quite 180 degrees anyway), you last sentance hits the nail on head. Thanks for summing that up nicely!

                        • Kurt says:

                          Keep working at Eddie though Herb, I’m pretty sure we can sway him over to the blue side.

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          Neva, neva in a million ears.. uh, years!

                  • Phaelin says:

                    Oh, I totally agree with you. College and education in general should come first and foremost. The concept of abstinence is terrific – it’s teaching abstinence-only that I have a problem with. Promote abstinence, yet at least tell them about their other options. That’s all I’m sayin’, I think you just misread me.

  4. Dustbunny says:

    “On my honor, I thought abstinence-only sex ed was a great idea.”

    • Brad says:

      “On my honor, I think that’s her daughter’s decision.”

      • Jane St.Clair says:

        It’s her daughter’s decision as to what kind of education she receives? It’s her daughter’s decision to tell her teachers and her parents that she wants to learn about condoms and other methods of safe sex because she’s thinking about doing it? It’s our responsibility as ADULTS (which Bristol Palin, despite all you “romantics” thinking it’s great she’s getting married, is not one) to make sure our children are well informed about sex so that if they do decide to do it, they have the resources to prevent STDs and pregnancy, so they don’t have to get married at 17 to make their mom’s career look better.

        • dude im on it says:

          I knew NOTHING of contraceptives when I went into the dating scene since I came from a very conservative family and Christian private school. I learned a little bit from my friends, but I must say I wish someone had taught me something other than abstinence only. The hand-wringing moments were more than I could handle.

          • jellybeans says:

            I do not advocate children having sex by any means but I do feel that some science should be included in sex ed.
            I think parents should have 2 choices – Abstinence only with BIOLOGY included to explain what is going on with the body and how pregnancies happen and STD’s get transmitted while encouraging abstinence. OR Full on sex ed with contraception and STD prevention explained while still encouraging abstinence.
            -
            Where is the problem with explaining to a child the consequences of sex without promoting it?
            -
            I also agree that Bristol might not be in this situation if she had better information and resources. You can’t say for sure that she wouldn’t because kids do still do stupid things even with full information and we all know little boys have the “If You Love Me” speech down pat but at least she would have had some knowledge going in.

            • n8 says:

              We don’t have to promote it, it pretty well promotes itself. Therein lies the rub, you might say. ;-)

              • jasper says:

                Pretty much. When I was in school we learned about contraceptives, about the biology of it all, and they promoted abstinence by saying thats really the only way to prevent STIs and pregnancy. I’ve never heard of a school that promotes sex. But really sex is a natural process that humans do.

          • Brad says:

            how is it not decision. Hey, I’m going to screw him and I might get pregnant…ooh I got pregnant! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN!!!

            No, that’s not what happened, it’s just what happens when you remove all consequences in the game of life. when you have a way to fix anything, your decisions don’t matter and you can do anything wrong you want to.

            So enjoy the STD s, the bastard children, the abortions(which one of their side effects is breast cancer, and the other is that you become a murderer) and the jail time for the statutory rape.

            • dude im on it says:

              And I do hope you’re enjoying your life as a eunuch.

              • Brad says:

                Not a eunuch, I’m just not going to have a kid that I will have to raise with a chick I don’t like. And I would raise it, I am not a murderer.

                • dude im on it says:

                  Well, I’m going to not have a baby yet, either… and I shall still have fun. Besides, I only sleep with people I like ;-)

                  • Phaelin says:

                    Aye, one person here until we can get married and then focus on the whole kid concept. Were it to happen, I’d be keepin’ him/her for sure. But to have the option out there is great, especially for rape victims, etc.

    • lol says:

      Do kids from ultrareligious right wing families who have premarital sex also burn in hell?

    • Green Is Good says:

      That should be the caption! Ha ha!

  5. n8 says:

    Well, in this case the VP (nominee) helps her nominee for president to throw the election. Good job, too.

  6. Ceefax says:

    They see me Palin, they hatin’…

  7. jellybeans says:

    I need an explanation …
    I keep hearing people say that Sara herself was a teen mom that had to get married and look how great her marriage is.
    -
    She is 44, her oldest son is Track and he is 18 or 19? Is there a mystery kid running around out there?

  8. enema says:

    A vote for Palin is a vote against the advancement of science.

    • Brad says:

      How is this based in reality? And why do I have to answer a guy named enema?

      The fact is that she is the governor with the highest approval rating in the country,
      and one of the hardest-working, most successful, and experienced women that
      the United States of America has to call its own.

      • enema says:

        Hello? She believes that creationism should be debated in science class. Those kind of people want science to step back, not move forward.

        • Lucky Bob says:

          Oh my gosh, you’re right! Debate is a horrible idea! Why you should you hear opposing view points? What, to learn where the other person is coming from and to better understand them? And then in turn are better able to articulate what you believe and argue for/against it? What a load of crock this free marketplace of ideas…

          • n8 says:

            Yes, but why only debate the Christian creation myth? In this Secular Democracy in which we live, all religions must be held equal. Preferential treatment for one citizen’s religion denies equality to other citizens not holding that religion, in direct violation of this country’s founding principles.

          • enema says:

            Creationism is not debatable in a scientific setting because it’s not science in any sense of the word. Read a textbook and get back to me.

            • Lucky Bob says:

              You’re absolutely right, it is not debatable in a scientific setting. Yet because of that, the issue cannot be debated at all? Tell that to atheist and evolutionary theorist Richard Dawkins. He’s been happy to take on people like Francis Collins, Director of the US National Genome Institute and an evangelical Christian.

              • enema says:

                It can be debated, but not in a science class like Palin wants. Slap it in a religion class where it belongs and debate it there along with every other religion’s view on the creation of the universe and man.
                I still can’t see how creationism can really be debated though, as there is zero evidence for it or for the existence of a higher being.

                • Brad says:

                  Intellegent design is about the lack of science that supports evolution and the unbelieveable hordes of scientific knowledge that absolutely disproves it.

                  There is evidence of a higher, maybe just more intelligent being, in the lak of evidence for evolution.

              • jasper says:

                For the same reason we are not aloud to pray in school. Religion and state being seperate… those things.

          • Seth says:

            Should home ec be taught in science class, too? Creationism isn’t science because it can’t be falsified and it makes no testable predictions, therefore it should not be taught in science class.

          • lol says:

            Yes, debate is great! Let’s also spend precious science class time arguing that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it! Or maybe that the universe is really just the back of a turtle shell! Or whether FSM’s holy noodle touched the clay and made humans! Idiot.

            • Lucky Bob says:

              “Idiot.”

              Poopy pants…

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              Was that a Terry Pratchett reference hiding in your post? I think it was…

              • Seth says:

                The turtle idea was around long before Terry used it (not knocking Mr. Pratchett at all, his writing is top notch satire.) I believe that it began with Hindu mythology, but I first heard of it in Stephen Hawking’s “Brief History of Time.”
                – Quoting Stephen Hawking –
                A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: “What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.” The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, “What is the tortoise standing on?” “You’re very clever, young man, very clever,” said the old lady. “But it’s turtles all the way down!

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  Seth, even Logic Woman deserves some fun. Take yourself off with your facts! (JK, I did know the turtle theory wasn’t invented by TP, but the old lady story was new to me, and despite my fit throwing I always welcome facts, I love them)

              • lol says:

                I haven’t read any Pratchett but I think I should start.

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  Throw some Neil Gaimen in there as well and you’re in for some good times (or even Good Omens if you’re going to read the book they did together).

                  • lol says:

                    Thumbs up on Gaimen, I really liked American Gods.

                    • Jane St.Clair says:

                      I agree, I think that was his best written book, and an amazing concept as well. However, I hold a soft spot in my heart for Neverwhere, and am still pissed it never got made into a feature film. Although considering what they did to Stardust maybe they shouldn’t.

            • herb says:

              Let’s also debate astronomy, alchemy, and magic too!

          • MLD says:

            If creationism is taught in classrooms then the Pastafarians will once again rise to see the Great FSM has His story taught as well. Because after all, if you’re going to discuss one religion’s creation view, and debate is good, then all religions should have equal time.

        • jellybeans says:

          She believes creationism should be TAUGHT in science class, not debated. She believes books should be censored from public libraries and fired the librarian that questioned that. She voted against scientific information being included in sex ed.

        • Brad says:

          For one it’s not creationism it’s intelligent design. and it’s based on many scientific sources of information that question and even prove that evolution is a false theory. you have carbon 19 that’s still heavily present diamonds that are supposedly millions of years old when carbon 19 degrades and has a half life that’s supposedly got only a few thousand years.

          You have to be kidding me when you say that Intelligent design isn’t science, open a book and stop spraying words out of your ass when you read or hear something that doesn’t exactly match up to what you think.

          In short, learn about Intelligent design before bashing it. It makes sense.

    • perpetuousdreamer says:

      Ex-squeeze me folks this is suppose to be Lol news. SO unwad your panties and enjoy the humor of it all……and seriously, what is “a vote for Palin is a vote against the advancement of science”??

      • n8 says:

        I believe it is a reference to her desire to have Intelligent Design taught in high school science classes, that being a matter of public record. I have to say I disagree with that policy, unless she will also include the part where the Flying Spaghetti Monster crafted the Earth from one of his own meatballs.

        For yea, even by his own Noodly Appendage did he grant life unto this meatball, Ramen.

        • dude im on it says:

          And this is why I don’t eat pasta. There’s a little rigatoni in all of us.

        • Zaggs says:

          But she has never advocate teaching intelligent design only. Quite frankly I get a little worried when people start talking about what teachers can and cannot say. If people had that view in the older days evolution would have never been taught.

          • PortlandMark says:

            Intelligent Design should be taught in church, to explain why Christians can still learn science, not in science, where non-Christians have to be exposed to Christian Mythology. Keep your religion in your church or your religion classes, not in science.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            Actually, thanks to NCLB we teachers have a lot of pressure to stick to state prescribed standards in order to pass test. Not to mention no teacher is so stupid as to blindly state their personal opinions without the benefit of said standards backing them up. No teacher wants angry parents storming in and accusing them of leading little Johnny astray.

          • jellybeans says:

            A lot of cultures do not believe in intelligent design.

        • MLD says:

          All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for He is great and Noodly!

          Ramen…

      • enema says:

        Come on, there’s political nonsense in almost every lol pic here. Go post your “WHY SO SERIOUS?” bullshit on all those threads too. I’ll wait.

      • Jane St.Clair says:

        Ummmm, are you new here? This is what we do at PK.
        -
        They see us Debatin’ and they be Hatin’!

  9. Lallz says:

    I think she’s awesome, and I still LOLed. Why? Because the caption made me laugh. The confused look on her face also quite helped matters.

  10. Wolvie says:

    Lame not funny.

  11. Herr Kub says:

    This smear campaign must end immediately! Sarah Palin’s comments about the role of VPres was rhetorical. She wanted to know what the role of VPres would accomplish for her constituency in Alaska. A blind monkey with conjunctivitis could see that. Unfortunately, the rabid leftists want their candidate to lose.

    Continued bashing of Palin will guarantee that a backlash vote will destroy the goodwill that Obama has created over the past 2 years. We did not forget Obama’s acceptance speech, because McCain chose Palin. We forgot Obama’s acceptance speech, because his supporters made him into a complete fool by engaging in the same politics that his candidacy and his personal vision seeks to abolish in this country.

    Obama was correct. This election is not about him. It is about his supporters. Obama will lose, because his supporters just don’t get what he is trying to do. He is trying to make a political landscape where the Sarah Palins of the world can run for office without this childish and humiliating smear campaign.

    Yes, I am a McCain/Palin supporter. But I also don’t want to see the intelligent Senator from Illinois to be destroyed by his own supporters. THAT would be the greatest tragedy of this campaign. If Obama is suppose to lose, it should be because of his merits. Same for McCain. Unfortunately, the Left has made it damn near impossible for us to see the merits of Obama anymore.

    It is sickening to both Republicans AND Democrats.

    • lol says:

      There are no merits of McCain, so there’s nothing for his supporters to lose when they act like douchebags.

    • Ceefaz says:

      “This smear campaign must end immediately!”

      Awwwww, diddums. You weren’t moaning when Republicans were smearing and swiftboating everyone within range out of existence, were you? Well now, thanks to McCain picking an absolute hoot of a VP and painting a huge target on the Republican Party, the shoes on the other foot. How do you like it?

      • Herr Kub says:

        I did defend John Kerry. I used to be a Democrat before their behavior disgusted me so much. Do not assume anything.

        I am against this kind of rhetoric in general. I was against the Obama = Muslim smear of the CLINTONS. I was against all of the dirty politicking. Perhaps, if you thought before you lumped someone into an identity group… you would actually get something right for a change.

        • Ceefax says:

          Everyone uses that “I used to be a Democrat” line and it’s not worked yet.

          • Dave says:

            Yeah…honestly, how is it that if the democrats are doing a crappy job of implementing their policies (thus angering these so-called “ex-Democrats”) does it stand to reason that these people should suddenly shift all of their beliefs and support someone like George W. Bush or McCain? I used to be a democrat, until I realized that you could hold beliefs of both parties and not be excluded from American politics.

            (this isn’t a judgment of Herr Kub – just a generalized contribution)

            • Herr Kub says:

              I used to be a Democrat. I am still registered as a Democrat in my county. My ideological shift came as a result of 8 years in a public university setting. I saw far too many young and nieve kids embracing ideas that had no clue about. this caused me to question why I self-ID’d as a Dem. I incorrectly thought that being a gay man meant I had to be a Democrat. But honestly, my true feelings and beliefs were not in line with the party of tax, spend, and socialize industries. I am by textbook definition a libertarian (small L).

              Since there really is no libertarian wing in the Dem party, that is why I seriously considering switching parties. I voted for Kerry. I can’t stand Bush. I am voting for McCain to clean up the past 8 years in a way that does not gut the system or overtax normal Americans.

              I cannot vote for Obama and I will not vote for him.

              If you really care about my story, email me. But most likely, you just intend on flogging and moving on.

          • Kurt says:

            Just ask Leiberman.

    • jellybeans says:

      OMG!! this is a smear!!!
      Of course all the crap about Obama is a-OK!

  12. Rickvid in Seattle says:

    Palin is everything that the women’s movement has been about since sufferagette days. Her heresy, however, is that she is living the success of the movement while rejecting the dogma of continued victimization. She is successful in all areas of life from work to family to politics to recreation to religion. But since she does not mouth poor me’s and hatred and victimhood, she must be destroyed.

    The utter blinkered hypocrisy of the left is fully spotlighted. I am confident Sarah Palin will kick these thugs, wimps, asshats and idiots to the curb and go on about the business of the nation.

    • circle square says:

      The women’s movement has been anti-abortion and anti-sex education? News to me.

    • bittervoter says:

      Rickvid, go back to the cave you’ve been living in since you clearly don’t know anything about the women’s movement. Sarah Palin, while I grant she seems like a tough lady, does not fight for women’s issues, which is why most feminsits don’t support her.

  13. Kaitlin says:

    She hasn’t convinced anyone who wasn’t going to vote for him in the first place, so… Yeah. Creationist bullet DODG’D!!!

  14. karen says:

    Oh but I feel great about voting for a president who has only been a city council member and a senator… and most of his time in the senate he ran for president.

    • momw/brains says:

      A long resume doesn’t necessarily make you a better candidate. I was at Obama’s acceptance speech and he showed charisma and poise not seen in our generation of politico’s; not seen since JFK (although I have only seen him on video). He and Michelle have shown nothing but respect for the other party and they have handled themselves in a very classy manner. You have to remember a lot of the retoric comes from the PAC’s supporting the candidates and not the candidate themselves.

      BTW I love this site!! You all have all kinds of fun, don’t ya!

  15. Charlie Foxtrot says:

    Bottom line… Democrats recognize that Pres Bush and his GOP controlled Congress have screwed up the nation royaly, selling it out to big business. Obama/Biden represent the future and the potential to break free from oil/corporate dependency. McCain/Palin represent the past and continued subservience to big oil/big corporations. It you want to be a slave vote GOP. If you want a chance for freedom, vote Democrat.

    • ay dios mio says:

      big business has given more money to the democratic party than the republican party in recent years. Government control is a good thing for the already major corporations. Having a steady income no matter what makes it much easier to budget and shut out competitors.
      Bush was an oil man I won’t deny it but you just sound silly.

  16. MC says:

    Colbert gave a good summary of the VP’s job…

    Break ties in the Senate

    Shoot your friend in the face during a hunting accident!!

    Sarah Palin is ready from Day 1!!

  17. Adoniram says:

    Is that all the better you lefties can come up with?? LOL wow!

  18. Airigh says:

    Nor do I.

    -is a fail-

  19. Matt says:

    You realize that she explained what the VP does better than Joe Biden…

    • Matt says:

      Oh and as a matter of fact Biden didn’t even explain it right in the debate…

    • Hesse says:

      True, Biden was the one that said the said the duties of the executive branch were in Article I of the Constitution. Wrong moron, Article II.

      This would only be funny if she was ever accurately shown to be stupid.

  20. blah says:

    hi im bored

  21. Zabrina says:

    Americans are weird. Who the hell stands there with their hand in the air :l

  22. Andrew Yu-Jen Wang sucks says:

    FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Jane St.Clair says:

    I am a women so I can say I agree with you. I will go on to add that my mother and my six aunts (all of them old enough to go through the feminist movement) are extremely angry at the Sarah Palin choice. They were all huge Hillary supporters, to the point that some of them were considering sitting this election out. However seeing how Hillary fought tooth and nail through the primaries just to have McCain pull some hockey mom from Alaska who believes in the exact opposite of everything Hillary has stood for, as if there is no difference between the two, has made them so angry they can’t wait to go vote for Obama.

  24. n8 says:

    Regarding your six aunts, I can’t say I’m surprised. The dumbest thing a man can do to a feminist is treat her like she’s stupid. The Palin move was the most transparent display of pandering I’ve ever seen in modern politics.

  25. dude im on it says:

    I agree! I was SO surprised to see him choose Palin. I didn’t think he’d make a move like that.

  26. PortlandMark says:

    Well, it’s not *the* dumbest thing he can do, trust me. No I don’t want to talk about it. The scars are healing well, thank you :)

  27. Jane St.Clair says:

    Also, if all he wanted was a woman of his party there were MANY more that were more qualified and would have made better decisions. Hell, Condi has more international experience.

  28. bittervoter says:

    Exactly, if “executive experience” was so important to McCain and company there are plenty of Republican men and women who have much more of that than Palin. It seems to me Alaska is a very different world from the rest of the country.

  29. jellybeans says:

    I am glad he didn’t … I am not sure we could have beat Guiliani

  30. n8 says:

    Giuliani had his own set of weaknesses we could’ve exploited. Experience aside, he was essentially a parrot trained to say “9/11″ over and over again. If things got really nasty we could’ve posted up those pictures of him in drag. :-)

  31. lol says:

    “There’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun, a verb, and 9/11″ -Biden

  32. lol says:

    I like McCain/Vajayjay better.

  33. Jane St.Clair says:

    I think Jon Stewart said it best (although he was refering to the current admin) when he said, “9/11 + Whatever we say = STFU”.
    -
    The Christmas before my brother went to Iraq he jokingly twisted this to, “Iraq + Whatever I want = STFU” and it worked.

  34. Jane St.Clair says:

    Fillerbunny!!!!! I’ve missed you, and might I say your post was a win!

  35. jellybeans says:

    CACKLE!!!
    That is awesome!

  36. n8 says:

    Your post is filled with victory. Well done, sir! (Or madam.)

  37. Phaelin says:

    I may just be making one of those for myself.

  38. Dave says:

    What, you mean governing a state a BERING SEA away from Russia for 2 years isn’t enough international experience for you? Wow, that’s a tall order :P

  39. bittervoter says:

    Kudos to you n8. Couldn’t have said it better. Pretty much all the posts in reply are full of win too, I’m cracking up!

  40. Phaelin says:

    Yeah, I’m really against feminists that act that way – much in the same way that I was disgusted by Hillary supporters that were all for her just because she is a woman. Those kinds of people shouldn’t be out there voting. Leave it to those who care enough to check up on standpoints and vision.

    On that note, I do support the Palin choice. I do not agree with all of her points (abstinence-only? What.) but overall, I really will back up the McCain party now. The next few months should really be promising and fun to watch, though.

  41. herb says:

    And let’s not forget McCain perma-dodge “When I was a POW…”


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