Comments on: COUNTRY CLUBS

By: DeathWyrmNexus

DeathWyrmNexus — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:26:06 +0000

Lol, yay!!!

By: lord of kobolds

lord of kobolds — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:25:10 +0000

AinOk, you win an internet.

By: Snark

Snark — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:45:50 +0000

Wow…that was low and disgusting even for you.

By: P. Divvy

P. Divvy — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:58:02 +0000

No, the only real thing is which one is actually fit to lead the country.

By: 42

42 — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:41:32 +0000

I certainly did not mean “all”. Coming from a background that involved the baptist faith and a father that beat and molested members of my family (tmi?), I’d say I have a first hand experience at how an evil person can disguise themself as bible-thumping, god-fearing christian. I know many familys like mine where the parents have hidden behind a veil of religion. Does this happen to all religious folk? Of course not. I did not mean to imply that. As far as the “McCain being slaughtered” comment, pure shock value. Don’t take people too seriously. However I still stand by my comment that he is evil and the people who are blinded by his bullshit and his turkey neck are sad individuals.

By: 42

42 — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:11:32 +0000

By: froofrou

froofrou — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:03:59 +0000

I would love you back, but I’m married and having trouble walking today. (referencing a previous thread ) So I LUV you!!!!

By: DeathWyrmNexus

DeathWyrmNexus — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:59:04 +0000

I love you guys.

By: Charlie Foxtrot

Charlie Foxtrot — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:50:39 +0000

hmmm, pk ate my response. it was long and in depth and full of adjectives, so i wonder why? Suffice it to say, Bob, you are a liar. You want to draw down? tell us … there you were, up to your armpits in hand grenade pins… tell us what a hero you are. you are full of it, everything you say, every piece of “evidence” is entirely fabricated. You are in fact, without integrity.

By: Charlie Foxtrot

Charlie Foxtrot — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:45:18 +0000

Bob, while I respect you service, you are full of shit and you are lying. Now, you want to draw down and sling shit? Go ahead… there you were, up to your armpits in handgrenade pins…fill in the blanks, tell us what a hero you are. Because when it comes right down to it, you have nothing to offer but Bullshit. Your statements are pure fabrications from someone with an agenda, and you don’t care how much you lie, as long as you advance your agenda. You are a swift boat wannabe.

By: vervain

vervain — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:42:27 +0000

Never mind that, why isn’t there more Coke in Pepsi machines? And how come Burger King doesn’t serve Big Macs?

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:21:53 +0000

Thanks guys, you’re right, there are absolutely NO wealthy, out of touch liberals!

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:33:55 +0000

He didn’t say all so some is inferred

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:32:49 +0000

Again – Voter Caging.
The fraud machines are already revving the engines and preparing to contest votes.
Florida: Anyone with the same name as a “black sounding” criminal will be challenged. Hispanic names left alone.
Ohio/Michigan: Anyone who received a foreclosure notice in SELECT counties.
If McCain wins it won’t be a fair win

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:29:59 +0000

You are going to have to give up the obama as messiah shtick – Evangelicals are claiming it for Palin. They like the fact that she claims Dinosaurs and humans coexisted and they were gung ho for the witch hunter anointing.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:25:38 +0000

http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=2033538

I liked this one – voted for it … and I am as liberal as they come.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:21:14 +0000

Voter Caging.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:20:31 +0000

<3 Jane
You really make my day sometimes Jane.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:18:50 +0000

At least they didn’t steal his slogan and try to pretend it was their’s all along … More of the same came out of McCain’s mouth at the debate … LOL
McCain – candidate of change? Roflmao!
McCain even had signs eerily similar to Obama’s at a few of his appearances.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:16:31 +0000

*snicker* … putting stuff in your mouth …
*snicker*
Sorry, couldn’t help it

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:14:43 +0000

Actually he is a secret Muslin … much scarier

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:14:00 +0000

ooooo-k it moved …

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:13:30 +0000

This should have been a reply way up there somewhere …

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:11:02 +0000

That made me almost physically ill. “The vets know me, they know I love them, they know I will take care of them.” Show me ONE FREAKING THING he has done to help veterans. ONE!
McCain is one of the lowest scoring senators when it comes to Veteran’s affairs. Republican pols are always ready to throw away American lives but the ones that come home get nothing from them.
People say Dems are wishy washy on war. At least we care for the soldiers when they come back – and not just in photo ops. Veteran’s groups have rated the senate based on their votes helping soldiers and veterans. The lowest scoring Democrat is rated higher than the HIGHEST scoring republicans. Republicans send our soldiers out, Democrats take care of them when they come home.
My dad was in the Korean war – lied about his age and signed up for submarine service. When he got home he had a free ride to college as long as he maintained his grades. There weren’t any other criteria back then. Now though there are so many ways our soldiers are disqualified for educational assistance and even healthcare. It is all about saving a dime and not about helping the people who fought for us.
The lowest Democrat better than the best Republican in Veteran’s affairs … But hey, McCain loves ya! That will help out with medical bills right?

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:01:21 +0000

I took the agreement more as a sign of courtesy and proof that Obama will be the one willing to work with others. McCain’s smirking and muttered comments and yes, outright lies were immature and petty, 2 characteristics I really don’t want in the white house … again

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:58:28 +0000

The republicans were saying McCain won before the debate even happened McCain had a banner up on his website that morning declaring himself winner … before he even told anyone he was actually going to show up.

By: Lolnathan

Lolnathan — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:47 +0000

Just because your country may or may not be guilty of something, doesn’t take away your right to not like it, or criticize anyone for it. Especially if you aren’t in charge of whether or not it happens. We don’t elect our military personnel in the US, they are volunteers.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:31:27 +0000

I completely agree with you on Afghanistan. My problem is that we HAD that opportunity in the late 80′s (which could have averted a LOT of bloodhsed) and we squandered it. As far as using the people as drones, of course they are, thats what leaders do, for good or bad.

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:47:15 +0000

that country = Afghanistan (I am sleeeepy)

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:46:15 +0000

Well, I will concede on that a little bit, but mostly cause I’m tired!! The religious fervor may take hold a little stronger because of some circumtances. But I am convinced the leaders that want the caliphate are using the people as drones for their cause. I know we would be over there helping to rebuild if it was at all possible at this point in Afghanistan and we have made great strides in Iraq. But look at how the women of that country are now compared to before. They now go to work, school etc when before they were not allowed to leave the house.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:38:01 +0000

You are correct. But those things are the fuel for the fire. Religious fervor is used in conjunction with all of these things. Say you have a man that you are trying to convince to perform a suicide attack for religious reasons. It becomes much easier to convince him if his parents or siblings were killed or wronged by what he sees as an American injustice. Of Course they aren’t allowed to foget those things, its furthers the agenda of the leaders you mentioned. On another note, I am sure that if we went over to those countries, and worked to provide basic services such as clean water, adequate food, and basic health care and education, all things that are more or less within our means, it would be next to impossible to foment that same terrorism. Of course, I also think its now a bit too late for that in most cases.

By: froofrou

froofrou — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:35:15 +0000

In bed, hehe

By: froofrou

froofrou — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:33:05 +0000

In bed

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:27:23 +0000

“There are many examples of things such as that that make them resent us and the fact that we go through our entire lives having adequate sources of water and food for the most part, and don’t have to worry about being blown up by an unexploded mine.” – The day to day people would generally forget about these things, (and we do make mistakes), and go on with their lives. But, they aren’t allowed to forget because of the Islam movement and well funded politically motivated leaders (like Saddam Hussein who would give money to the families of suicide bombers in Israel) keep them stirred up. They are used as pawns unfortunately. I am sure if we went over to these countries bearing gifts and begged their forgiveness for anything we may have ever done it would do no good.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:19:38 +0000

I am not sure I agree with that. I have seen very few conservatives willing to look for the good in situations like Welfare, SS, Unemployment, national health care, etc. All I see are cons talking about the rampant abuses of the systems. Yes there are abuses, but the services also provide a lot of good to people that are struggling. Like you said its a blanket generalization…

By: Christine

Christine — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:17:02 +0000

Ema, I never heard her complain, only point out what she was dissatisfied with. And as far as changing what you think needs to be changed, she is supporting her husband, who I think she believes will change what she wants to be changed. I also think it’s pretty clear that she did handle the obstacles because again, she has the wonderful job, education and “it all.”

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:14:37 +0000

“And it was the threat of retaliation that kept the Soviets in line. What worked against them in the 80’s would work against the terrorists now.” I am not sure it WOULD work against the terrorists. See, most terrorists are willing to sacrifice everything for their cause, including their lives and the lives of others. That did not apply to the Soviets. That being said, I think its way to late to consider pulling out, and that a long term solution needs to be found to that situation.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:12:20 +0000

“No, I seriously believe Saudis are exporting an extreme form of Islam, wahabi style. They are and have been spending millions on madrassas abroad with oil money. That is what is causing terror, their goal is a world wide caliphate, at least that’s what they are saying. I guess you could not believe them if you want to…” That is part of it, I even said earlier that the Saudi’s had more links to 9/11 than Iraq. But a lot of it is also the things we do overseas. We have the ability to do a lot of good there. Instead we do things like support the Afghanis in their fight against the Soviets in the 80′s, and then, once the battle is won, totally abandoning them to their ravaged country, rather than making an attempt to help them rebuild and making a long term ally. There are many examples of things such as that that make them resent us and the fact that we go through our entire lives having adequate sources of water and food for the most part, and don’t have to worry about being blown up by an unexploded mine.

By: froofrou

froofrou — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:09:45 +0000

“…I hate it when issues are sugar-coated…”
It’s not sugar-coating. A basic difference between a Conservative and a Liberal is that Conservatives try to look for the good in a situation and a Liberal sees only the bad. That’s a blanket generalization that isn’t true every time, but is true enough times to make it real.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:04:52 +0000

“It’s not about encouraging or disscouraging public figures from mentioning problems, I’m talking about what is more attractive to the public. Someone that complains about their problems is not very attractive and can seem narcisistic (sp? it’s late..) That will not draw the most people to any cause. But concentrating on the positive and putting forth a positive and strong image is very attractive to the public and would have been a better strategy for MO.”

See, I disagree with that philosophy. Yes, it would probably be a better strategy, but I hate when issues are sugar-coated because people are worred about what it would do to their public image. A matter of opinion, I guess.

By: froofrou

froofrou — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:04:49 +0000

And it was the threat of retaliation that kept the Soviets in line. What worked against them in the 80′s would work against the terrorists now. Screwed the pooch or not about going into Iraq in the first place (I’m keeping my opinion of that to myself ), we should finish it and finish it right. Do what we said we would do. Shock and awe them into a nasty, bloody finish that is so definitive that no one in their right mind would ever question the superiority of the United States. Creating terrorists or not, we need to show them that we aren’t afraid, and that we won’t pander. Otherwise it gives them a reason to keep doing what they’ve been doing. We’ve already cost enough in this war, and if we keep going like we’re going it will cost that much more in human lives and money. So let’s go finish it. Screw pulling out (that’s never fun, hehe), FINISH IT. Then we can all go back to our respective playgrounds, hating each other but too scared to mess with the big kid in the sandbox.

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:03:44 +0000

No, I seriously believe Saudis are exporting an extreme form of Islam, wahabi style. They are and have been spending millions on madrassas abroad with oil money. That is what is causing terror, their goal is a world wide caliphate, at least that’s what they are saying. I guess you could not believe them if you want to…

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:00:16 +0000

“One of the main reasons the Soviet Union never did anything to us is because Reagan was known to have an itchy trigger finger and was waiting for a reason to ‘push the red button’.” While this is true, the fact that the vaunted Soviet war machine was so poorly maintained that it was highly unlikely they COULD have done anything short of an all out Nuclear war that nobody wanted also contributed greatly to that.

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:00:13 +0000

Obama – ENOUGH!!

By: Snark

Snark — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:59:37 +0000

You are so busy putting things in my mouth, you are not hearing my post. You have attacked on a point I did not disagree on. Reread it. I can tell you got lost while looking for things that were not there. I would not have presumed to argue the numbers. I would, however, suggest that your image of what the hypothetical present and future might have been like had we taken your economic course is presumptuous. Your non-point on how things ‘should’ have gone is not fact. It is theory (not provable). Yeah, American dollar tanked. Yes, we are 10.5 trillion under. Yes, it all really sucks. But, how things could have, would have gone had you been king of the world at the time is up for debate. I’m sure you will agree “you are not entitled to your own facts.”

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:58:54 +0000

It’s not about encouraging or disscouraging public figures from mentioning problems, I’m talking about what is more attractive to the public. Someone that complains about their problems is not very attractive and can seem narcisistic (sp? it’s late..) That will not draw the most people to any cause. But concentrating on the positive and putting forth a positive and strong image is very attractive to the public and would have been a better strategy for MO.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:57:51 +0000

Invading Iraq, thus causing many Iraqis and other middle-easterners to hate us even more, and perform terrorist attacks such as roadside bombings doesn’t create terrorists? Nice try, I am not buying it. Let me ask you this. What do YOU think creates terrorists? And please don’t say religion because its a LOT more involved than that.

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:54:56 +0000

“If other countries think we will wipe them out, they will be less likelyto harm us or our allies.” – I totally agree with this. The terrorists actually respect strength and decisiveness.

By: hergieburbur

hergieburbur — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:52:31 +0000

Ema, I don’t disagree with that at all. I’d still rather live here than anywhere else. But, I think we do ourselves a disservice by pretending everything is fine. I think we do ourselves more of a disservice when we discourage public figures from mentioning those problems.

By: ema

ema — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:51:56 +0000

Christine – we ALL have difficulties to overcome in life – the truly admirable people handle them and don’t complain. If something needs to change, change it.