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And this new constitution

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And this new constitution shall only be followed by the first 42 presidents. After that they get to do whatever they want

(Founding Fathers of the United States)

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  1. Spazzmin says:

    Giggity!

    • Captain Weiner says:

      *GOO!*
      .
      Bush Bashing: it’s just too easy anymore. (But still loads of fun!)
      OMG BUSH IS SO DUMB!

      • Mr. L says:

        Naw, Bush is getting boring…….

        to CHENEY!

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        • MEH. says:

          FDR’s presidency makes me chuckle because he was a pretty popular president in terms of support by the people…but was always trying to find a way to bend the system to work better for him. I call it inventive, rather than blatantly trying to scam the system/country for self interest like Bush.

    • Joe says:

      The caption is wrong the constitution has been ignored since the original “Savior” FDR got elected

  2. DeathWyrmNexus says:

    Alright…

  3. kak says:

    last time i checked, bush’s administration worked quite well for the country.

    • Evil Pundit says:

      Indeed. He has been one of the best presidents.

      • Lolnathan says:

        I don’t know about best… but I think history in the long run will judge him as average. Historians view things a lot differently than a President’s contemporary opponents. History is full of Presidents that are now considered average, or good, but in their day were not very popular.

      • 15234 says:

        If you google “Greatest Presidents List”, you’ll find among the first page, one which claims he is the worst (the only evidence it seems to have are some quotes that I would bet are taken well out of context), another that claims him the best (though this is probably propaganda), others that put him in the middle (certainly above the bottom, though), and several that don’t mention him entirely.
        Not that bad a haul if you ask me.

    • jellybeans says:

      Sure did! Wall Street is just a bunch of pansy-ass whiners.

      • Evil Pundit says:

        The crisis on Wall Street was caused by the Democrats forcing lenders to extend risky credit. This was a policy instigated by the Democrats in the nineties.

        • um says:

          yes, thats exactly it. what a douche.

        • jellybeans says:

          really? I thought it was the fault of the republicans deregulating banks so that that risky debt kept getting sold over and over and over.

          • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

            it’s a mixture of both, but the Reps are the immediate cause. The Dems plan might’ve worked out otherwise…

            • Maldain says:

              Sorry but the fact is that any time you make loans to people who can’t pay them back you’re going to take it in the shorts. Consider that nearly a quarter of all sub prime loans are in default you’re looking at a disaster for the lending institutions. There is no way, forcing businesses to give money away is going to keep those businesses afloat. Sorry, but the democrats basically nuked the banking system. Trying to pin it on Republicans who in fact tried to regulate the lending processes to prevent this from happening is just trying to blame who you don’t like. Republicans tried to regulate the process in the mid 90′s, late 90′s and every year since 2000 and were filibustered by the Democrats.

        • Lolnathan says:

          I don’t buy it EP. Even if that was PARTLY to blame, the financial goons largely made their own mess by taking risks they shouldn’t have. I suspect almost none of this is due to credit they were FORCED to grant. Most or all of it likely comes from loans they could very well have refused, but chose not to. Lending is just glorified gambling, and the odds weren’t quite as much in their favor as they thought.

          • lowly grunt says:

            Their buddies on Capitol Hill told them it would work, so why blame THEM? Man, your are harsh.

            • Evil Pundit says:

              Their buddies on Capitol Hill? You mean these buddies?

              All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

              Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400
              Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349
              Kerry, John S MA D $111,000

              What do you suppose they were paying Obama for?

              • PiMan says:

                You’re still taking that out of context. If you recall when you first mentioned this modified ‘fact’ it was pointed out why you are wrong.

                • froofrou says:

                  The thing that worries conservatives about this list is not the seemingly small amounts of money, it’s that Obama has only been in congress for 3 years and is already at the top of the list. It’s a bit troubling.

                • Evil Pundit says:

                  Uh, no, it wasn’t.

                  Those payments to Democratic senators were bribes. And Obama got a lot more of the bribe money per unit time than any of the others.

                  Neck-deep in corruption.

                  • PiMan says:

                    Go back to the numbers, and copy them all down. Not just the numbers that make you look best.
                    Do I need to go back to the lol where you started with this and you were discredited?

                  • MEH. says:

                    I’m sure your McCain will maverick the shit out of it, too. LOL so dumb.

          • Jim says:

            Wasn’t a large part of it due to the companies finding a way to not follow the regulations that the Federal Government had set up so this sort of thing would not happen? I.e. the requirement to keep capital liquid to cover risk rather than having another company take over the risk to free up the capital for huge salaries for their CEO’s.

        • Seth says:

          You are referring to the Community Reinvestment Act, I presume? The one with the better than average repayment rate, and the lower than average debt reselling rate? The one that banks can choose to act under, or not, as they see fit? No one has ever forced anyone to extend risky credit. You need to get out of your echo chamber.

          • Evil Pundit says:

            Looks like I struck a nerve with all these angry liberal replies.

            Truth hurts, don’t it?

            • jellybeans says:

              lies hurt more :-( meany!

            • Seth says:

              If you are referring to the truth about the CRA, well, only you know how much it hurts you that your lies are debunked. The CRA is not to blame for the subprime mortgage crisis, it is just your attempt to deflect blame from yourself. If you think my reply is angry, you should read what you actually write. You are so full of venom and hatred you can’t think straight. Your record speaks for itself, EP.

              • Evil Pundit says:

                Project much, Seth?

                • lowly grunt says:

                  I think your reboot has not worked very well. You sound just like you did before.Are you running Vista?

                • Seth says:

                  The master of psychological projection is projecting his projection onto others. Anyone could, with two minutes of work, find at least a dozen instances where you have written hate filled, venomous posts. But I won’t fault you for it, you are young, impressionable, and obviously the product of a bad environment.

                  On a more serious note, your attempt to divert attention from the issue you raised will not work. The CRA helped make this crisis less severe, exactly the opposite of right wing talking points. Simple fact, the default rate on CRA loans is lower than the national average. CRA loans are safer, and less likely to be sold over and over again in debt packages.

                  • Evil Pundit says:

                    That’s not what economist Jeffrey Miron thinks.

                    “The current mess would never have occurred in the absence of ill-conceived federal policies. The federal government chartered Fannie Mae in 1938 and Freddie Mac in 1970; these two mortgage lending institutions are at the center of the crisis. The government implicitly promised these institutions that it would make good on their debts, so Fannie and Freddie took on huge amounts of excessive risk.

                    “Worse, beginning in 1977 and even more in the 1990s and the early part of this century, Congress pushed mortgage lenders and Fannie/Freddie to expand subprime lending. The industry was happy to oblige, given the implicit promise of federal backing, and subprime lending soared.

                    “This subprime lending was more than a minor relaxation of existing credit guidelines. This lending was a wholesale abandonment of reasonable lending practices in which borrowers with poor credit characteristics got mortgages they were ill-equipped to handle.

                    “Once housing prices declined and economic conditions worsened, defaults and delinquencies soared, leaving the industry holding large amounts of severely depreciated mortgage assets. “

            • Kurt says:

              Truth Hurts… So is THAT why you avoid it at all costs?

          • Ignatz says:

            I’ll see your CRA and raise you a Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. The one Phil Gramm wrote, with the solid support of John McCain. The one that allowed banks to start getting involved in investment and insurance, so that any crisis affecting one sector of the finance industry would bleed over into the others. The one that reversed the Glass Act, passed in 1933 after so many holding companies and financiers overextended themselves to the ruination of world markets.

        • PortlandMark says:

          How about because a republican legislature backed republican administration in changing the rules so that banks were allowed to loan $40 for $1 in assets held, instead of $7 for $1? I don’t suppose that had anything to do with it?

    • scum-bot says:

      last time I checked, half the world is pissed off at us, defecit’s piling up, soldiers are stuck in a desert for no good reason, few efforts to actually fight global warming….

    • DaftPyramid says:

      When was the last time you checked, 2001?

    • When was that? Must have been Jan 19, 2001, that’s the last time any administration did anything right.

  4. anonymous says:

    Anybody know what ‘push’ is in French?

  5. Nick says:

    I’m sure that none of the other 42 deviated from the constitution at all. I’m not a fan of Bush, but I don’t think that he is the only president to break a few rules.

    • Evil Pundit says:

      I’ve yet to see any evidence that Bush broke any rules.

      • scum-bot says:

        *COUGH*torture*COUGH*

        • Evil Pundit says:

          What rule was broken?

          The administration sought advice on legally acceptable interrogation techniques, and followed it. People who overstepped the mark were punished.

          In all cases, where a dispute arose as to whether some action was constritutional or not, it was decided in court — as provided bythe Constitution.

          Nope, this ‘Bush violated the Constitution’ nonsense is just more lying Democrat propaganda.

          • Lolnathan says:

            You have a point there EP. Nothing is unconstitutional until it is ruled as such by a court of law, as per the rules in this country. People seem to feel that any time the discussion of constitutionality comes up, that the constitution has already been violated. Discussing these things is an inherent and vital part of the Constitution. How are we supposed to know what is constitutional and what isn’t unless the question is posed and ruled on by judges?

            The mere act of questioning what the Constitution says (or more often, what it DOESN’T say.) is nothing to get riled up about. It’s how its supposed to work.

            • lol says:

              Wasn’t Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program ruled unconstitutional?

              • Lolnathan says:

                I believe the Supreme Court refused to hear the case.

                • lol says:

                  Doesn’t quite answer whether or not it’s unconstitutional though, does it?

                  • 15234 says:

                    Doesn’t say it is though, does it?

                  • Lolnathan says:

                    That’s sort of my point though. If we had to run every decision by the Supreme Court for constitutionality, nothing would get done.

                    • lol says:

                      One would think that controversial programs like wiretapping, which has been labeled unconstitutional by numerous law experts, would be an ideal decision to run by the supreme court…

                      • Evil Pundit says:

                        I’m sure the government has plenty of legal experts of their own who will say the opposite.

                        It’s not unconstitutional unless the Supreme Court says it is.

                        • lol says:

                          Duh, of course legal experts who work for the government are going to nod their heads at whatever the government wants to do.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          Duh. And of course legal experts who don’t support the government are going to say the government’s actions are unconstitutional.

                        • lol says:

                          The arguments are compelling. You could look up the statements by those who believe that the wiretapping is unconstitutional and look up the corresponding laws to see their point. That’s what I did. But you won’t.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          Of course not. Because I know, as well as you do, that I could look up the statements and the laws from the opposite point of view, and come to the opposite conclusion.

                          Neither of us is a Supreme Court Justice, so it would be a waste of time.

                        • Alcar says:

                          Besides, the US legal system is such a convoluted mess, you could find it to say almost anything you want.

          • PiMan says:

            Waterboarding was once considered torture, that changed only since Bush came into power. How does something stop being torture?

      • Nick says:

        Innocent until proven guilty I guess. I’m not going to argue if he did or not since I personally haven’t seen any evidence either, but my point was that even if he did he would hardly be the first (and most likely will not be the last) to bend the rules a bit.

      • PortlandMark says:

        He *bragged* that he broke the original FISA law, and said he planned on continuing to do so.

      • DaftPyramid says:

        Evil Pundit continues to advocate for the ideology of ‘As long as I didn’t see it, it didn’t happen.’

  6. fizzle says:

    Ooh– ZING.

  7. Lolnathan says:

    Not exactly accurate, but funny! And by not exactly accurate, I mean that previous Presidents have bent the interpretation plenty of times. A few even added things to the precious Constitution!! (Perhaps you’ve heard of Amendments.)

    Still, a good lol.

  8. me says:

    the founding fathers did want the constitution to change for every generation… so in a twisted way, we are doing what they’d want. besides, the Constitution is not Divine; it’s just something a group of white rich rebels put together to give us a starting point. Amendments, previous presidents, they’ve all changed it. and all the courts interpret it differently every time anyway. our issues today were not issues then. not at all.

    • Lolnathan says:

      Some people believe the Constitution was the word of God, written down by man. While I am not happy with some of the liberties people have taken with it on occasion, it certainly isn’t sacred or holy.

      Debates about constitutionality wouldn’t be necessary if we were supposed to treat the thing as a set of literal and immutable rules. As with anything it needs to be discussed and debated, not taken at face value. It is no more holy or sacred than any other peice of legislation. In fact, it is designed to provoke MORE debate and argument than other documents, not less. Thats why amending it is so hard, not because it isn’t supposed to be changed, but because changes should be vigorously debated and worked out.

    • kelphis says:

      nope. they made it possible to amend. but the original bill of rights and the constitution are the “supreme law of the land”, as my college law professor used to say and cannot be changed. There will never be an amendment that gets rid of congress for example or one that says congress can pass a law respecting an establishment of religion.

  9. Foamer says:

    The only person I can think of that can creditably be accused of attempting to bust the Constitution is the Secretary of Treasury – Norman Paulson I believe his name is. Large portions of the bailout, especially as he first submitted it, were unconstitutional.

    Oh, and he’s a Democrat.

  10. Foamer says:

    Sorry – Henry Paulson.

  11. Koki Kariya says:

    Oh c’mon, what modern President has followed the constitution religiously. Bush’s failings are hardly related to constitutional breaches and more in mismanagement and lack of foreign policy experience *cough* when America needed it most, post-9/11.

    • Kelly says:

      its not a presidents neglect of the constitution that causes decline in American society. We could have had a tyrant like Bush that was really smart and the country prospered. We could be the most healthy, with the lowest crime rate and highest education and the best economy and military in the entire world but he would still be a tyrant that oppresses us.

  12. lolbukkit says:

    This caption is too accurate to be funny. It’s just sad. :’(

  13. J says:

    I lol’d, then I cried.

  14. Evil Pundit says:

    I really hope we never have a black president.

    • Evil Pundit says:

      Oh great, a stalker.

      The above “Evil Pundit” is a fake.

      This has happened before, with someone pretending to be ema posting racist comments.

      As I’ve said many times, liberals seem unable to justify their positions without ultimately using dishonest tactics like these.

      • scum-bot says:

        ok…but isn’t human nature to be cheating scum, which includes liberals and conservatives.

        • Evil Pundit says:

          Fair enough. Dishonesty isn’t the exclusive province of one side, nor is honesty.

          Though it is a tempting rhetorical point to turn back on such spoof attacks.

        • Seth says:

          No, it isn’t. According to recent research, it is human nature to be fair and equitable, and to punish those who are not, even if doing so hurts you. What you are describing is a condition known as sociopathy. There are a disproportionate number of sociopaths in positions of power, because they have no empathy and see other people as things, not people. So they use methods to achieve power that would literally make a normal person sick. And therefore, people have to be selfish to protect themselves from the selfishness of those in power.

          As much as I dislike EP’s tactics, which I find dishonest myself, there is no call for attempting to discredit him like this. Just use facts, it’s much easier and simpler, with no chance of blow-back.

      • kelphis says:

        LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

        maybe us dishonest liberals should fallow in step behind the republicans by using there tactics.

      • Maxwell Silverhammer says:

        I know plenty of people, both republican and democrat who like making a fool out of you. So dont try to pin this abuse on anyone when you have no clue who it is.
        On the bright side, you’ve gotten under someone’s skin enough for to pull lame little tricks.
        Soo… congrats?

      • Denim says:

        Why do you automatically assume the person making fun of you is a liberal? Could it not just be some jerk?

        • Evil Pundit says:

          (1) It isn’t someone making fun of me. It’s someone trying to discredit me by falsely assuming my identity.

          (2) This person has used the same tactics before, on ema. The fact that the false comments are both racist, and dishonestly attributed to conservatives, indicates a liberal actor.

    • Lolnathan says:

      Oh come on you chickensh*t, if you want to disagree with EP, do it with your usual name like the rest of us do. Otherwise, kindly go throw yourself in front of a train. Thanks.

      • Agree. right, wrong, indifferent, only someone without honor uses BS logins to attack, mock or otherwise disrupt a conversation. this is, after all a semi-anonomous format anyway. Show some semblence of courage and establish some level of identity.

      • MEH. says:

        I was going to post some random garbage right here under your name, Lolnathan … just for laughs … but I just couldn’t do it to ya ;)

    • Kelly says:

      You go on and you hope for that. While you are at it ill just hope that we dont have another bad one.

    • ema says:

      Cut it out, liar. EP has never said a racist thing and your not funny.

      • Seth says:

        It’s so easy to discredit EP without resorting to dishonesty, why would anyone bother?

        • lol says:

          EP discredits himself every time he posts.

        • ema says:

          Well, some people like to take the easy route to shut someone up, like they tried to do to me not so long ago.

          • Seth says:

            Why would anyone want to shut you up? I may not agree with you, but you are personable, you are informed (and when you aren’t you admit it! Are you to the Internets? This is not how we act here!), and you are good at making your points. Oh, now I see…

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            Again, I doubt it’s a case of someone wanting to “shut EP up” as much as it’s a case of some loser kid who thinks he’s creating chaos on teh interwebz. Srsly, people don’t do that kind of sh*t unless they’re bored and want to f*ck with people, and that kind of person has no political agenda.

            • Evil Pundit says:

              I don’t think so.

              The same tactic — making racist posts under a false name — was used on ema a couple of weeks ago. I suspect it was the same person.

              The method and the targeting of conservative commenters clearly indicates a political motive.

              • Alcar says:

                Or maybe they’re just high on audience and anonimity, like most trolls are.

              • Maxwell Silverhammer says:

                It also happened to Jellybeans as well I believe.
                I think this fake poster’s agenda is to target the “characters” on these
                boards that either inspire the most controversy, or say the more right-ist
                or left-ist approach to things.
                I agree with Jane, this clown is just that. A clown. He wears bright clothing
                acts a fool and gets paid in the form of attention.
                As sad a fact as it is, this guy’s not even good enough to follow closely
                to what his target usually says, so its not taken too heavily.

                • Maxwell Silverhammer says:

                  I take that back, He did turn everyone on the board into McCarthy
                  for about 5 or 10 posts.
                  I read over that whole saga of comments and thought to myself, “Its
                  like watching The Thing all over again, just with less blood and more politics….
                  I think I have a new movie idea…

                • froofrou says:

                  Clowns eat people. *shudder*

              • Evil Pundit says:

                I can dish it out but I can’t take it. Please don’t exploit my pansy thin skin, I’ve been so nice to everyone here!

  15. 15234 says:

    Actually according to my fundamentals-of-American-government, the constitution’s been ignored by most presidents since Teddy Roosevelt. Then again, I’ve also been told that the reason the constitution has lasted as long as it has (it’s the The oldest written national framework of government in the world, apparently. Blame my history textbook if I’m wrong here) is because it’s creators made it possible to evolve and change over time.
    So, my question is: Where are all the Teddy Roosevelt haters? C’mon, guys! Don’t be hypocritical!

    • Eric the Barbaric says:

      Grrrrrrrrrrr, stupid Roosevelt with his canal-building and his elephant-hunting and his charge-leading and his Pony Express and, and, and GRRRRRR

      ¡VIVA ESPAÑA!

    • Christine says:

      I think that the Mayans, Aztecs, Incans, and Egyptians, who all had written frameworks for their governments lasted longer than 232 years.

      • 15234 says:

        Yes but they aren’t still around. The constitution is the oldest one that’s still in use.

        • Christine says:

          That’s not what he said. He said the oldest written framework of government in the world. The world consists of much more than what is happening here and now.

    • Actually, virtually every president, except Washington, has tried to pull power away from Congress and into the administration, it is the nature of the position. One of the reasons that the anti-federalists opposed the constitution of 1787. And why we need the system of checks and balances. Also one of the reasons that Washington was such an amazing man, never in any historical context has someone seized power, voluntarilly given it up, been given power again and given it up a second time…a truely amazing man.

  16. Matrix says:

    Well, it’s erosion started under Lincoln… Roosevelt overstepped his bounds, especially Franklin. Woodrow Wilson gave us our modern problems by giving us the Federal Reserve, but FDR gave us welfare. Both were schmucks.

  17. Mr. L says:

    IDK what’s funnier.

    The picture, or the resulting flame war.

  18. joe says:

    caption fail, this bush is 42 so it should be the constituion is only for the first 41 presidents not 42.

  19. J says:

    No he isn’t, he’s the 43rd, Clinton was 42nd, and pappa bush was 41st

    • joe says:

      Bush 2 is the 42nd. Grover Cleveland was 22 and then re-elected after #23, but there have been only 42 different presidents of the United States.

      • Mr. L says:

        Your intelligence qualifies you as Commander-in-Chief, congrats.

        • joe says:

          1 George Washington
          2 John Adams
          3 Thomas Jefferson
          4 James Madison
          5 James Monroe
          6 John Quincy Adams
          7 Andrew Jackson
          8 Martin Van Buren
          9 William Henry Harrison
          10 John Tyler
          11 James K. Polk
          12 Zachary Taylor
          13 Millard Fillmore
          14 Franklen Pierce
          15 James Buchanan
          16 Abraham Lincoln
          17 Andrew Johnson
          18 Gen. Ulysses S. Grant
          19 Rutherford B. Hayes
          20 James A. Garfield
          21 Chester A. Arthur
          22 Grover Cleveland
          23 Benjamin Harrison
          24 William McKinley
          25 Theodore Roosevelt
          26 William Howard Taft
          27 Woodrow Wilson
          28 Warren G. Harding
          29 Calvin Coolidge
          30 Herbert Hoover
          31 Franklin D. Roosevelt
          32 Harry S. Truman
          33 Dwight D. Eisenhower
          34 John F. Kennedy
          35 Lyndon B. Johnson
          36 Richard M. Nixon
          37 Gerald R. Ford
          38 Jimmy Carter
          39 Ronald Reagan
          40 George Bush
          41 Bill Clinton
          42 George W. Bush

          How many presidents were therem Not how many terms. the have only been 42 different presidents.

  20. Leland Dantzler says:

    Flame wars make me happy.

    *pulls out marshmallows, chocolate, and graham crackers*

  21. J says:

    First cheezburgers, now s’mores, damnit I’m getting hungry.

  22. tman says:

    What a joke, the second President didn’t even follow the Constitution. The Constitution should be on failblog.

  23. lolbukkit says:

    Holy crap, I just read through all the comments here (not sure why) and some of you people seriously need to lay off the crack.

  24. Drew says:

    Technically, Bush is the 42nd man to hold the title: President of the United States.

  25. Mike says:

    I love the comment that thanks to Bush, there have been no terrorist attacks on the United States”. No duh! Your average terrorist can go kill Americans in his own backyard. (Let’s see…go the market, and get some fresh goat…kill some american pigs…check magazine stand for Jihad Monthly…) Four thousand plus soldiers is no less of a sacrifice than four thousand regular citizens.

    I really wish the men and women in the armed forces can be protected from the greatest threat to them all…

    …stupid politicians!

  26. Leya says:

    Wonderful, but the truth is that the founding fathers never expected the Constitution to last. Coming straight from the failed Articles of Confederation, they expected the Constitution to last for a few generations and then have to be re-worked. Never once did they think it would last for 221 years.


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