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AWESOME!
HAHAHA that’s awesome!! If only more people would say this to his face.
I’d like to hit him in the face
Looks to me like she’s trying to convince him she really was his high school sweetheart and he isn’t buying it.
“… and you took me out to that speakeasy, don’t you remember? You lent me your raccoon-fur coat because I lost my shawl dancing the Lindy?”
“.. and did the deed in the rumble seat?”
Sad but true…
Yeah, but unfortunately… so are Obama’s.
Note that no one has denied this fact as of yet.
Because we let everyone have their opinion.
OMG Lib’rul Conspiracy!
And because there wasn’t a good discussion about the plans yet
We (people and media included) care too much about identity politics.
He’s a Democrat who vote along the party line. He’s a socialist just like most of his fellow Democrats. I know what the plan is. I am not willing to accept socialism’s tyranny.
And McCain’s proposed buy out of mortgages isn’t socialism? STFU Matrix until you learn something.
Do say STFU TO THE MATRIX, THE MATRIX HAS YOU!
I wish Obama were a socialist. Socialism isn’t tyranny. The free market is tyranny of the rich. A socioeconomic system should not give more control to those brutal enough to take advantage of others, which is what the free market does. Socialism means democratic control of the means of production. The free market means a small cabal of rich sociopaths controls the means of production.If you don’t like what we collectively decide, you have a choice to leave. The fact that you stay indicates your acceptance of our system.
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But all that is moot. Obama is no socialist. He’s completely middle of the road.
thank you
Set gets a gold star! ^_^
Actually we don’t even have a free market. It’s a managed/regulated market. We HAD a free market up until about 1890 or so, when the government enacted anti-trust laws and etc. because the robber barons were screwing everyone. Now, THAT could be considered socialism. So could the SEC, FDA, Social Security, ADA, etc. I don’t see anyone whining about them. And yes, McCain’s buyout of mortgages is socialistic as well. Anybody ever heard the words ‘smear’ or ‘buzzword’?
Tyranny means rule by force– i.e. economic tyranny is socialism. It does not mean rule of consenting parties by offering to produce values for them, which is what rich people do.
Ah, yet another expert on the works of Marx and Engels…
something a lot of people don’t realize is that socialism isn’t a bad thing
it works …….in theory…… capitalism works……….in theory. The problem
with our capitalistic market is that we let it run away on itself and now it’s starting to crumble a bit.Sure, it’ll bounce back, it always has. If we take a little bit of control over the free markets and not let it run away with itself like we have been *ie a little touch of socialism we wouldn’t really have the mess we are in now. But regardless of which market system you choose (capitalism, socialism, even communism) somebody will always get screwed. usually the little guy. just with socialism the screwing isn’t so epic and everybody gets screwed a bit more evenly
a matter of opinion, which is why the pic fails. a better caption would’ve been:
“Obama’s not an arab? -damn, now i have to actually compare policies and make an informed decision when i go to vote”
At least she didn’t “faint” like all the land whales at Obama rallies !!!
I heard about an old lady Mccain told to say something bad about obama- But she couldn’t remember if she was supposed to say Obama was an Arab, Muslim, or terrorist. This must be that.
“No, ma’am. He’s a decent family man”
Seriously, why haven’t more people talked about McCains implication that Arabs are not decent family men?
The Daily Show had a great rant about this. When are people going to quit assuming that Arab or Muslim equals terrorist?
The same time they stop assuming that Christians are all abortion clinic bombers and Bible-thumpers who want to send you to hell for looking at them wrong.
They’re not?
*picks something up from the ground* Sir? Sir! Is this yours? It says ‘ignorance’, and I believe you dropped it.
Thank you, but no… that’s not it…
*looks around*
Ah! Here it is! See how it says ‘sarcasm’? That’s how you can tell.
Ok, cool! I’ll just save this ignorance chip for someone who really needs it. Has anyone seen EP?
froufrou WIN!
Yay!!!!
Name FAIL! ;D
Help, help! Christians are being oppressed!!
In a manner of speaking yes. The rights of free speech apply to everyone except white conservative christians. Want evidence? read the all the comments on PK. They are all about why conservatives should be shut up, how silly christianity is, and how only whites are capable of racism(because when another race does it it’s fighting for rights)
I’m sorry, I can’t see how comments on PK are taking free speech rights away from “white conservative christians”. Want to try again, or should I call the waaaaahmbulance?
WOW. Who knew this website had the power to destroy the First Amendment? Holy shite! I actually thought this was what that amendment was for! Maybe we can alter the space/time continuum next?
waaaaaaahmbulance, fer shore!
very mature, That was a very respectable reply. Imeant it is an example of how white conservatives are the subject of much discrimination now. Many times, any conservative views are instantly dismissed as featherbrained, by the self proclaimed “open minded ones”
Well by definition, liberals are more open minded. Maybe not always in practice, but certainly that’s what logic dictates.
These days the name is just there for show, it seems. Kind of like how sports teams aren’t really a bunch of red socks or bulldogs, but rather a group of people with Red Sox and Bulldogs for a title. Politics (at least here in the US) has devolved into much of the same thing. Two different view points with names to match. That’s just about it. The radicals on both ends are just as equally close-minded these days, especially if they want to get nominated for much of anything.
Yes, we are more open minded and will kill anyone who says different ( or disagrees with us)!!!!
Last I checked, the Republican fanatics are the only ones on record calling for death of the other candidate. Please stop projecting your own party’s actions onto our party. It is equivalent to “I know you are but what am I.”
Stupid. If I say ‘shut up you ignorant douche!’ that IS free speech. You are free to ignore it. No one is taking away your rights by telling you to shut your pie-hole. You sir are a whiny crybaby.
Actually, he replied a few comments down about what he “really meant”.
Good God does no one have anything intelligent to say? I find it appalling that “whiny crybaby” “ignorant douche” and “waaaaaaaambulance” are the best you people are capable of producing.
And my point is proven! Instead of actually considering the viewpoints of a white conservative (and last time I checked, liberals were very “open minded”) you simply insult me and tell me how stupid I am.
Welcome to PK!
And you are surprised at the Liberals acting this way ?
No Not really But i did have a shred of hope for some form of intelligence in the left. I really want to believe there are some intelligent ones out there.
Hope shines eternal! (Change too)
Although I tend to be very liberal, and although I agree with the democrats’ positions on most issues (with only a couple exceptions), I understand what you are saying. It particularly disturbed me when I once read a story about a college graduate (in Nevada?) who was delivering a speech before her student body, and whose microphone was cut off when she attempted to thank God for helping her through college. I do not personally believe in God; but I think it is an outrage that she was forbidden her right to declare her own beliefs. I have heard of many other similar incidents, such as a convention somewhere in Canada where representatives of Islam and Judaism were allowed to read passages from their scriptures, but not the representative of Christianity, and despite my own status as an unbeliever, I can’t help but be a little disgusted by these stories.
As for intelligence, I really hate to say this, but I tend to notice ignorance more on the part of conservatives than on the part of liberals. I do not believe that there aren’t intelligent conservatives in the united states, but I do believe that there are a great deal of ignorant or bigotted people who find it easier to be conservative than to be liberal.
I do agree with the republicans on at least a few issues; and sometimes I wonder why the democrats take certain stances. For example, I am a supporter of the right to bear arms; and I can’t understand why the democrats seem to oppose this. I also don’t understand how the practice of abortion is protected by the right to privacy. As for the school voucher program
plan, I think that the democrats haven’t given the idea a fair chance; it is not necessarily a breach of the separation of church and state, as far as I can see.
Still, some of the stances of the republican party seem to be motivated not by a desire to run a country smoothly and fairly, but by a desire to promote injustice and violations of freedom. For example, I believe that religious organizations have every right to deny the sacrament of marriage to people whose lifestyles are contrary to their tenets, but I feel that it is wrong for the state to refuse, on the basis of sexuality, recognition of civil unions. Also, I was particularly infuriated by Mike Huckabee (and other republicans) who supported the “FairTax” program plan, which would effectively be a tax on the poor. I was relieved when McCain was chosen as their nominee, since he seemed to be the only one who opposed that plan. I am a lover of the progressive tax schema which is currently in place.
In short (TLDR):
A. I agree that Christians are discriminated against by those who are obsessed with being politically correct, and that there is a general misconception among these people that racism against white people is inoffensive.
B. I do feel, however, that the base of the republican party in the united states suffers more from the influences of ignorance and hate than that of the democratic party.
People Are talking about this. I think that pretty much everyone already knows that McCain is a blatant racist. The problem is that most of his supporters either don’t care, or count that as a positive thing, and a good reason to vote for him.
I don’t think saying that a guy with proven terrorist connections that espouses Marxist policies is a terrorist is too much of a stretch of the imagination. It’s a bit sad that I’m not surprised that America would follow someone with such blatant dislike for America and American history. The only consolation is that if we’re stupid enough to elect a Communist when we have the Soviet Union as a prime example, then we probably deserve whatever fate awaits us. I just hope I’ll be here to help the country rise from the ashes.
… which brings me to my next point, kids: Don’t smoke crack.
I miss Dave Chapelle.
you’re funny, really amusing
McCain has proven terrorist connections? Is that what G. Gordon Liddy is being called these days?
Man, I need to keep up better…..
I love G. Gordon Liddy!
He’s aconvicted felon who worked to undermine democratic principles.
And what I picked up from listening to his show is that he’s pretty much a thug who thinks problems can be resolved by kicking people in the nuts.
Not exactly the kind of guy I’d associate with if I was attempting to take the principled stand.
Doctor Worm conveniently leaves out all of McCain’s ties to “terrorists” because it doesn’t suit his needs…I’m pretty sure it’s just the Republican Party who has a dislike for the actual citizens of America right now.
See, now you’re just making things up. Typical of a Democrat. “HAHA MCCAIN IS JUST ANOTHER BUSH”. Ok, then why are Bush backers supporting Obama? “MCCAIN IS RUNNING A MUDSLINGING CAMPAIGN BECAUSE HE’S A CLUELESS, DODDERING OLD FOOL”. Democrats? More like, Hypo-crats! Zing! “PALIN IS INEXPERIENCED BECAUSE SHE CLEARLY WOULD BE THE REAL PRESIDENT YES INDEED”. Right you are. I’d take a new senator over a new governor any day.
In all honesty, I was an independent before this election. But this mindless sensationalism and the threats of violence if Obama doesn’t win call to mind scenes of Hitler’s rise to power and the ascension of Lenin in Russia. I majored in history, and everyone else with the slightest inkling of knowledge in that area is backing slowly and nervously into McCain’s corner.
And DW. Where are McCain’s ties to terrorists? Please point them out to me. I can back up my claims by pointing to Ayers, his America-hating mentor, and his Socialist claims of redistributing the wealth. You’re just making things up.
But the best part? Your way is winning the election. What a country!
I call shenanigans on your historian claims!
I would call shenanigans on just about everything else posted, but I want to leave some for everybody else.
But since you are such a tool, no one listens to you.
Not proposing any new incite on the subject? Check.
Throwing insults to make up for not having a point, proof, or clue? Check.
Being a bigger tool than the person you’re accusing? Check.
Yep, I do believe you just failed yourself. Not even worthy of my list.
And yes, I do realize I just did what I was criticizing. So I’ll go ahead
and fail myself…
God it was worth it.
That and you used incite instead of insight.
Incite riots
Provide insight.
I’ll shut up now.
No, you are the tool we don’t listen too. Hypocrite. You claim everyone here is a liberal, then you say no one listens to us liberals. Make up your mind, idiot.
Awwww, now you’re confusing him. That’s mean.
I did… Herbs pretty funny
Where are the threats of violence if Obama doesn’t win? Cite your sources, and no RW blogs.
You read “Newsweek”, champ? I suggest you pick it up. It’s quite liberal. You’d like it.
Everything’s liberal if they dare use facts to back up their journalism, eh?
Like Dan Rather ?
Yes, like Dan Rather (a respectable journalist who was run out of town because he dared speak of a rumor against Our Fearless Leader in a time when he should have reporting about the Swift Boat bullshit). You do realize all that business with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was a bold-faced lie, but news agencies had to run with it as though it was fact, right? With Rather as their example, it was demonstrated that news agencies could only run rumor pieces that slanted in one direction only.
You don’t mention that Dan “Libtard” Rather used FALSIFIED documents to try to slander Bush. But that’s okay because he’s a Republican, right?
Keep on being a sock puppet for the left !
Herb can think for himself and is no one’s sock puppet, unlike nyou, who I highly doubt have had an original idea in your entire life. Polly want a cracker?
Does your mother ever let you out of your room ?
I’m sorry: I was unaware that it had been proven that Dan Rather himself falsified the documents. I was under the impression that he based his news report on evidence that had not been fully investigated — which I admit is sloppy — but that no-one had to fact-check the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group is quite hypocritical.
An intelligent response is welcome but not expected.
Is this supposed source for violence on Newsweek? Link to it. Put up or STFU.
That’s not a cite. Go back to Freshman English. I’m beginning to think you’re not really a doctor.
and you’re not really a mom
And you’re not really a mirror
Mmmm….. pi.
I will pass on the weiner. The one I have already is quite nice.
If you were a history major, why don’t you know the difference between Socialism and Communism? And why don’t you know that this country has been at least partially socialist for 80 years? I second the shenanigans call.
Thank you! This country has many socialistic programs in place already. Hmm, checks for unemployment and social security come to mind. For McCain to say Obama’s ideas are socialist when he has stated himself he wants our treasury to buy up bad home mortgage loans is hypocritical. They’re both headed towards the same exit, just on different sides of the highway.
Look folks, both sides are dirty. We all know that. So why play the blame game? I guess it can be fun, but it gets old.
I call BS, on many points.
1. Anyone who ‘majored in history” doesnt throw around the word communist
like you do. They realize communism is MUCH more than what you’re making
it out to be.
2. You throw insults about like they help your case.
3. Bush backers are supporting Obama because people can see when they’ve
made a mistake, and try to rectify them when they do.
4. The only threats of violence I have been privy to (And this is from personal
experience, as in, someone in my face said it) have been from conservatives.
And believe me, Im not happy about it. I dont like the fact that a fellow
North Carolinian would say stupid ignorant things like they have. But
Ive heard them all.
5. Anyone with “the slightest inkling of knowledge” doesnt act as presumptuous, and frankly, just plain stupid and inflammatory as you are.
6… Where’s my f*cking list?!
If it’s not already on “the list” can we add that a poster can not add a zing on their own jokes? It just looks sad, especially right after the alleged “joke”.
laughing at your own joke is one mark; implying your joke is a zing counts twice.
I was really not going to mention that… cause when people do that,
I just wanna punch em in the face.
Please do. Don’t let me stop you.
Hit ‘em extra hard if they wear saggy pants.
Oh, those hate filled violent Republ….oh, wait- you’re a Democrat.
*gives brass knuckles to Max*
Wow when in doubt resort to violence and insults. Good Ol’ dems
1. Not a democrat.
2. We are not in doubt. We are pretty sure about the stupid we want to beat out.
Im very sorry. But you’re a pot, we’re a kettle. We’re both black.
Neither you Matt nor Mirror can try to claim the high ground.
The difference here is we are roasting someone who directly
responded to debate with an insult and rather juvenile behavior.
While neither side of this issue have our hands clean at least
we didnt bring vulgarity and the immaturity of insults as our
main weapon. While I will say in your defense Matt you did start
out with a valid point, but unfortunately, you took the “mirroman”
man approach and let yoru standards down. Very far down.
Dont be like mirrorman. You can be better. You can bring things
to this debate table that actually be debated.
Mirrorman on the other hand…. well… I dont want to convince
him… he can stay on the opposite of my side. I think I speak
for everyone when I say we dont want him. You however, seem
worth convincing, or at least talking to, while your temper is
in check.
I do apologizing for resorting to that, but how could I not when my statements about what Black Liberation Theology meant was met with “blah blah blah” and “STFU”?
Some of them werent. Some of them were. I know neither of
my comments held that message. Do like I do, respond only to
those you know wont be asshats…. and try not to get sucked in
by said asshats.
I see
Haha, no History major would throw around Hitler and the Russian revolution when discussing Obama. Talk about sensationalism. Perhaps he really was a history ‘major,’ just not a history ‘graduate.’
“I majored in history, and everyone else with the slightest inkling of knowledge in that area is backing slowly and nervously into McCain’s corner.”
Really? Seriously? I’m a History PhD working in a history partment surrounded by other history PhDs and many many history professors. I’ve yet to find a singel one who’s in McCain’s corner.
And as for your surius comaprisons to the rise of Hitler and Lenin with Obama…. I assume your major was the ‘history of spurios uncconected connections made to facilitate an hysterical argument guaranteed to strike fear into the clueless and gullible yet with no actual basis in fact”? Coupled with a minor in make believe?
correcting some typos.
history department
single
spurious
comparisons
unconnected
“Make believe” [sic] needs a hyphen.
Just to give the schooling a bit more boost.
haha, pwnd
With all due respect, I have not heard of any serious threats by anyone actually working with the democratic party, and the only election vote squabbling that has been happening in this election is taking place between Franken and Coleman in Minnesota. As for Ayers, he and Obama had only the most cursory of relationships. Your claim that Ayers was Obama’s “mentor” is ridiculous. I might also mention that since his days as a terrorist, Bill Ayers has been working on elementary school education theory, and he was named Chicago’s person of the year in 1997. He’s not some sort of maniac bent on the destruction of the united states. The only thing he opposed was the war in Vietnam.
Ooh – it’s the Kevin Bacon Game – Political Edition!
Ooooh. I bet we could connect McCain to Bill Ayers that way. Some of those republican board members with Ayers have got tho be connected to McCain somewhere along the way lol
I can do it in three! McCain to Biden through the sentate to Obama to Ayers!
DON”T FLAME ME, I’m just kidding!!!!
Nothing to flame, that makes sense. *hugs*
Communist, lolololololol.
Jeez, EP! Most ppl with dissociative identity disorder have alternate personalities, not the same peronality with a different name!
Like CF, Ceefax and Charlie foxtrot aren’t the same person ?
Who do you belong to, sockie?
I’m pretty sure he’s Thor thinking he’s clever. Since I took his hammer, he needed a new ID. Evidence:
“Thor
October 17th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Reminds me of the View- four fat old liberals shouting
down the single sane voice on the show.( Really should be The Only View)”
“Mirrorman
October 19th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Jane is a left wing sock puppet who screaches down any conservative viewpoint much like the hags on “The View”.”
He’s sitting at home watching the view everyday with mom.
Aren’t they the same person ? Same initials, same ultraLiberal rantings…. I think MM is onto something….
Look, everyone here knows that you ARE mirrorman (and Megabob, but you trashed that puppet’s reputation so badly you can’t even use it anymore.) so just give it a rest, m’kay? Using a sock puppet is just pathetic. Classic case of projection on your part.
too much watching of the view.
As far as I know, those guys don’t mind associating their opinions with their real username. , plus, they discuss, not troll. who needs a sock?
Actually, no, they aren’t. I know this because Charlie Foxtrot is my dad, who started posting after I told him he would like this website. Why don’t you take your paranoia elsewhere.
Really?! AWESOME!
*waves* Hi Jane’s dad!
*waves back* Hi Guinny, for those who think that I have multiple personalities on this site, in the first place I have no idea how to circumvent the system to log on with a different name, secondly, I have no inclination to do so. Anyone who logs on using a different personality, in my view, is dishonorable. This is, after all, an anonymous site, so if you build a personality, then use another to hide and / or support yourself, then you really need to seek some help. So, megabob/mirrorman/rorsc, give it a rest.
So… can I have thor’s hammer? Its more Silvery
Go for it, dude…After all, nothing’s too good for the MAX (headroom?) — oops, generational slip.
Hmmm, well this is interesting. Very glad I didn’t flirt too hard. >_>
Tell me about it.
Let’s whistle innocently starting… Now…
*whistles innocently*
I already took the hammer. you can touch it on special occasions. lol
When you click “Reply to this comment”, you will find the “Name (required)” field already filled in. All you have to do is change your name there.
.
I only do it for humorous effect, never when actual politics are involved.
Well, THAT explains a lot !
I’m not the same person as anyone – from his US spellings I assume Charlie Foxtrot is an American for a start.
…Marxism? Communism? It is rare that I witnessed such an other fail at history and understanding politics at once.
I know that in America, apparently anyone who doesn’t embrace full-blown free market economy is a dirty commie, but seriously, Obama is pretty firmly center.
And omg, I totally believe that an 8-year-old Obama was helping Ayers build bombs in his basement!
I’m a Groucho-Marxist.
You rock sir.
Utter fail, not Other fail.
Damn, why am I the literary Nazi today again? Least the outfit’s black so I can work with it.
I’m an orthography maverick, don’tcha know!?
Stop oppressorizing me, you evil commie nazi!
We could talk about my wang instead…
I may need to see the two of you in my office. Separately.
what crap.
Agreed! He actually fought to have Martin Luther Kind Day NOT be a national holiday! Why would any fight that happening except for racism?
Apparently we can’t count stuff that happened a long time ago. And he appologized and said that was a big mistake.
Obama is just as, if not more, racist. He talks about “typical white people” and how they vote. He also attends a church preaching Black theology, a principle that states that god only wants blacks in heaven. (not implicit, this is direct teaching from that idea)
So you wouldn’t have any problem backing any of this up with, I don’t know, evidence?
Check the teachings of his preacher, he preaches “Black Theology” Look that up.
In an interview with CNN, he spoke about typical white people, and his grandmother being one of them. If McCain were to ever use the words “typical black person” his career would be over.
Repetition of original statement, still not proof.
“But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism.”
“To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people!”
“All white men are responsible for white oppression.”
“Whether the American system is beyond redemption we will have to wait and see. But we can be certain that black patience has run out, and unless white America responds positively to the theory and activity of Black Power, then a bloody, protracted civil war is inevitable.”
Direct quotes from James Cone’s writings. Obama’s pastor and mentor(obama has called that man his mentor) endorses this theology.
need a few more to be convinced that Obama has been attending a unbelievably racist church for 20 years?
“Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God’s love.”
Blah blah blah, got any actual statements from Obama?
Jeez you aholes are really forgetting all the FILM of Wright preaching this racist hatred ?
Jeez are guys gonna realize that Wright’s not running for president?
And when are you going to realize that insults win you no points?
And yet, had McCain gone to a church for twenty years listening to the rantings of a racist preacher, that would be okay with you ? ROFL!
Yes. It would. Because unlike you I know two minds can think on
completely different wavelengths. Im sorry Im not blinded like you
are. Perhaps if you’d stay away from the mirrors you’d stop thinking
that everyone should and IS like you. We’re not. We’re smarter,
more open-minded, and unlike you, we want people to live THEIR
lives, not YOUR life.
I agree with Maxwell.
And I’m probably
being very naive when i say this but i
believe that a persons religion should have
little if nothing to do with their political
policies. What should come first is the
well being of the country. If someone
wants to believe that the moon is made of
cheese and they worship cheese as the
supreme power, it’s fine with me so long
as they don’t try and pass any laws based
on that.
So in short, if Obama wants to believe only
black people get into heaven, fine, just so
long as he doesn’t try passing legislation
that infringe on the rights of everyone
else.
“We’re smarter,
more open-minded”
That is why you endlessly slam anyone who doesn’t agree with you?
Only after they slam me. I believe I was called an Ahole.
Dont try me Matt, I dont lash out unless Im lashed at. You know
this. Ive been perfectly reasonable with you when you’ve been
reasonable as well.
Not only that, but I was speaking to Mirrorman, not to you…
Wait a minute….. Or was I?
Did the film have statements from Obama? No? Here’s your own STFU.
WHen reverend Wright Preaches this filth it reflects Obama because Obama did call this man his mentor
A physics teacher at my high school, whom many a student called a mentor, got suspended from his job for bringing a BB gun to school. Does that mean that all of those students were then going to go and shoot up the school?
(Background: He used the BB gun for a velocity lecture, and the superintendant, school board, principal and teachers knew about it. A mother dropping her student off late to school saw him with the gun case walking into school and called the cops. He had been doing this lecture for 20 years. He still has his job.)
@Matthew Fitzhenry:
Is Wright being elected for Office? No. Obama is. You say Obama is pretty racist, so quote OBAMA and do not quote WRIGHT.
Ok, so take Obama’s books. Where he says things such as “white folks greed runs a world in need”. Obama’s a racist IN HIS OWN WORDS. And his pastor/spiritual advisor is too, which shows further bad judgement.
You people really need to learn how to read, and learn what certain words mean. Mentor implies that person a great deal of influence. Got it? Had time to soak it in? Ok, just to be clear, it seems as if you all have skipped over that piece of information.
When a man is another mans mentor for (As stated by Obama) for 20 years, that persons ideology has spilled over onto him.
So Obama has been under the direction of a man who teaches that God is black, and hates white people.
You are blind if you see no problem with this
*cough, cough* Hagee…
Independant endorsement, not 20 year mentor.
True, but still relevant.
How are they even close to being the same thing?
They aren’t. Period. It’s a desperate stretch to try and excuse Obama of his connection to Wright.
Fair enough. McCain is listed as Episcopal, but has attended a Baptist church locally for 17 years. His pastor speaks highly of him but doesn’t endorse anyone (which is very appropriate, in my view). I personally liked the way McCain didn’t make a big issue out of religion in the race, right up to the point where he picked Palin. She’s such a nutjob and a clear pander to that wing of the party, it makes me wonder–where did sane McCain go??
You can click my name for a nice article from the Associated Baptist Press.
Honestly I don’t consider Palin any more of a pander to the far right than Biden is to the rich white guy who traditionally has decided the elections. That probably won’t be the case in this particular election, but that is the only reason to pick a man who has consistantly talked down about his opponent during the primaries and who got less than, what was it, 7% of the vote in his own race? Palin may have her (perceived) problems, but she was not a known quantity before she was nominated. Biden was.
I love conservative debate tactics.
Conservative:
Liberal: Could you cite some evidence to support your claim?
Conservative: No, it’s your duty to search for the evidence of the claims that I make, not mine!
Burden of proof, sir.
I love formatting quirks….
After ‘Conservative’ is supposed to read: *insert ridiculous and unfounded statement here*
You can force it to have your less than, and greater than symbols instead of attempting to use them as HTML tags by typing < for less than, and > for greater than.
Liberals make far more empty claims
(i did cite some sources above moron)
I believe liberals tried convince the country that Bush was behind 9/11? Or ohw about Obama’s empty claims on his website. His website promises to reverse the damage done to civil rights by the Bush administration. Nothing further, no examples, nothing.
There are tin-foil hat wearers on both sides. Most liberals don’t say Bush was behind 9/11, but they DO object to the way he handled the intelligence leading up to the attack. It’s possible it could have been prevented if Bush acted on the intel he had. Even George Tenet says so.
Obama has information on the link I provided for exactly what his plans are regarding Civil rights and everything else on his platform. Your sources expect us to take your word for it that these are where you got it, with no links, references, etc.
Before you go swinging the word “moron” around you should check the post times. If you did you would see that DaftPyramid posted his comment at the exact same time as you posted your bit of “proof”. When you were posting your second bit of “proof” he was posting the correction to his typos. There is no way he would have seen your posts and so his comment was correct with the information he had at the time of the posts.
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Now on to my second point. Anyone who can work a shift key can put things in quotations, without a link to back up your “sources” your posts are pretty much meaningless. Please go find another bridge to troll under until you learn how this one works.
From what Ive seen of Matt F, he’s graduated from the “Evil Pundit
Insitution of Corraborating Far-Fetched Asinine Inconcievable Lies”
And now… we see how long it takes for the joke to set in…
i seriously just lol’d there.
thank you for probably making my night
Because EPIC FAIL is a legitimate argument. All you freaks can do is tell me that I fail and not refute anything i say with anything relevant. Obama calls a psychotic racist man who endorses and preaches an idea that whites should be killed, and he is under the direction of this man for 20 years and no-one sees a problem with this? My god, I am terrified for society.
I see a problem with it, but you’re phrasing your arguments in such a way as to piss people off. Bring forth a few more sources (as in HTML), not quotes, and it will be easier to make your arguments. Sometimes disagreeing with the board is like trying to feed a cage full of tigers. If you do it the right way you won’t get eaten
I’m pretty sure “whites should just be killed” is a bit of extrapolation and not truth to the source. He is, supposedly a Christian, right? Pretty sure there isn’t any flavor of Christianity that would condone this and especially let him continue preaching.
froofrou , I did also ask him to be less surly.
Not really. And perhaps you and your following should learn to take your own advice as far as wording to piss people off. Is it really a legitimate rebuttal for someone to come up with an elaborate but not so clever acronym for “EPIC FAIL”?
I have a serious problem with Rev. Wright simply because he uses and abuses the separation of Church and State. When you propagandize from the pulpit, there is a problem. There are certain things you can say, but he went way off in left field with a lot of his comments and sermons. And he has been completely unappologetic about them, which makes me respect his own set of morals, but doesn’t make me agree with him AT ALL.
And it take a bit of finesse to deal with everyone on this board sometimes
“and unless white America responds positively to the theory and activity of Black Power, then a bloody, protracted civil war is inevitable”
How is that not saying that whites should be killed?
There is a little box in the reply window that says ‘URI’. Post a link to what you’re talking about there, and the tigers will calm
This even has a video with Wright endorsing this horrid theology
incidentally, I don’t think I’ve ever given EPIC FAILL as a response. especially with no explanation.
I think he was referring to your following. That’s awesome! You have a following!
Matthew Fitzhenry
October 19th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
“and unless white America responds positively to the theory and activity of Black Power, then a bloody, protracted civil war is inevitable”
How is that not saying that whites should be killed?
Sheesh. Because there’s no such thing as METAPHOR. Do you really thing there will be actual bloodshed because some preacher said something against the establishment? They would write him off as a wacko and very few would follow him if he actually encouraged violence. Use your logic. Also we come back to the point that Obama isn’t Wright.
I have tried to play nice with him froufrou. He won’t listen to me or to you either.
That’s a bit of a stretch. No you are simply reaching for anything to try and reamain having your head buried in the sand and refusing to accept that Obama is under the direction of an incredibly racist man. While it is true that Obama isn’t Wright, He would not call him his mentor for 20 years if he did not agree with him. Use your logic. “Bloody, Protracted Civil War” A metaphor? For what? Offer an explanation please.
No, I believe people will follow crazy people. Remember Jim Jones? Dave Couresh?(idk how to spell his name)
And of course I won’t listen to you. You have yet to do anything besides tell me I’m wrong with no backing evidence for your point. You chastised me for only having quotes, and no links, but that is still much more than you have provided(except one link to a website, But it wasn’t really even relevant)
No, I have given reasonable arguments but you don’t see reason. You just buy into these fear tactics. Also, I wasn’t even disputing your source material so I needed no counter-doumentation. I was questioniong you on common sense. And yes, the comparison was still legitimate because it STILL all boils down to the guilt by association argument. McCain doesn’t advocate shooting ATF officers in the head because he’s not the same man as Liddy, and Obama clearly doesn’t share these views like Wright may, because he’s not the same man as Wright. If Obama had these views, he would never even have been electable to STATE senate.
Sure there are those that may follow a crazy charismatic leaders, but except with a few exceptions, these have all been small cult-like followings. They can be dangerous in their own right, but generally not on a large scale. It’s not going to be a majority of blacks or any other color of people that go along with it because most see it as loony.
If you don’t agree with Obama’s actual policies, fine, don’t vote for him. The guilt by association thing is, however, ridiculous indeed.
So it’s cool with you if McCain hangs out with the KKK and calls them his “mentor”?
Oh no!! That’s racist!
Of course it would. Black theology teaches that only whites can be racist.
So does AOL- look at their “Black Voices” section and how they say that “Black Racism is a myth” !!
40 minutes… I am displeased…. with what I dont know…
But Im displeased and I demand cookies!
*proffers Newman’s Own Hint-o-Mint*
Sorry, I getting my drink on.
Actually, if a comment gets stuck in WordPress’ spam filter it posts at the time it was approved, not the time it was posted. Most likely both of these got caught in the spam filter and approved at the same time by PK’s moderators.
Well yes, my main point was essentially along those lines, that they were posted so close together that there is no way DaftPyramid would have seen the other posts, and so it was fairly ridiculous for Matthew to call him on it.
The source is the book entitled “Black Theology and Liberation Theology” by James Cone. I believe I said that they were from James Cone. Learn how to read
Be a little less surly and you might be taken seriously. As per the rest of the discussion, this is still irrelevant to some of us based on the fact that Obama is not Wright. They do not share a brain, or even ideology necessarily. Also, As Paul said, it doesn’t even matter what his religious beliefs are as long as he keeps them out of his politics. Thank you for bringing the source material.
Why should I have to do anything to be taken more seriously? Perhaps I would take you all more seriously if every other reply to me wasn’t something along the lines of “blah blah blah” “EPIC FAIL” and “call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance”
It goes both ways, and it is really funny how the left seems to forget that
Dont’ poke the bear. Admit you’re outnumbered here (as I have) and present your arguments as well as you can. Then, if someone calls you names or starts acting a fool, you get to take the high ground and laugh at the idiocy contained in their ‘I know you are but what am I?’ posts. It’s all a big balancing act, really. You’re not alone in your ‘right winged-ness’, just don’t make the rest of us look bad
You only got those type of responses from the beginning because you started being childishly angry. Two people told you you’ll be taken seriously if you lose the attitude, but you go back to your whining anger and surliness. Remember, respect has to be earned. You aren’t entitled unless you show some respect to others first. So far, you’ve shown none. Listen to froufrou if you want to be taken seriously.
I have shown none, because I recieved none. My first post was about Obama being a racist. I was immediately flamed with all sorts of comments about how ignorant I am.
So I simply return the favor.
No, you came on here very angry and tried to force your views down everybody’s throat. Respect has to be earned. You are not entitled to it when you begin by talking to people thusly. Therefore, froufrou (who AGREES with you) and I asked you nicely to tone the anger down and we would all discuss with you like adults. You refused and then continue to DEMAND respect. It doesn’t work that way. I have tried to talk to you respectfully, but you didn’t even take that in kind. You are losing any credibility you may have had by continuing this whining about respect. You sound like my teenage stepdaughter. She doesn’t get that respect has to be earned either.
I’m done here because I am no longer enjoying banging my head on a brick wall. When you come back, you will be treated by everybody according to HOW you come back.
I did not start angrily. I stated that If McCain could be called racist for his affiliations, then so could Obama for his affiliations with Black Liberation Theology. I was met with “Blah blah blah” “STFU” and other garbage. I responded accordingly
*blushes* I didn’t order any pizza…
*closes shades and turns volume up*
*cough* HAGEE *cough*
Yeah, why aren’t we allowed to bring up hagee and mccain’s other wacky religious affiliations?
Because none of them are 20 year mentors.
yet McCain sought the endorsements of these “gentlemen”, until it was no longer politically viable to do so. Whereas Barack Obama was content to leave the church out of the mix entirely. Where it belongs.
Aside from that, I don’t think Obama has a strong racial agenda. He’s even said that affirmative action should probably be based more on economic status than race. He Left race blank on his Harvard Law application to be considered on merit alone.
Obama did basically the same thing with Wright. He saw the bus coming and pushed Wright in front of it after calling him his mentor and the mentor of his children. When it became clear that Wright could be a liability, Obama’s response was that Wright wasn’t the man he knew before.
He did. I do think though that any religious affiliation was not particularly important to his campaign though, while McCain specifically was courting the religious right. Until they showed just how wacky they are, so he abandoned theses guys. Some of those stuck with him because of Palin though, even if he lost some due to dumping Hagee, etc.
I can understand why Obama had to dump Wright, but it doesn’t really sit well with me. I love my old man to death — he’s like a father to me — but I don’t agree with 80% of what he has to say. He’s been known to spout off things I rather he not say in polite society, and I’ve known him for over 20 years. Does this mean my father speaks for me politically?
Or to put things more lolzy: I can has free will?
The problem that most of us on the right have with the Right Rev Wright is that anyone who calls a pastor of that caliber a ‘mentor’ will, by definition, be taking his advice on all things private and public. If he is as big a part of Obama’s life as was intimated at the beginning of the campaign (before the bus came along), then Rev. Wright will most likely be in the White House giving advice and counsel on all things foreign and domestic. I dont’ want a hate monger like that in the White House any more than I’d want McCain to be counseled by a Fascist Neo-Nazi with a God complex.
No, I am just saying I know why he did it. (see liberals will admit when their candidate makes mistakes — IT’S OK!!!11!!1) I think it could have been handled better, like maybe pointing out that although wright has made some inflammatory speeches, but that it doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the constant. –and/or take the JFK route like when everybody was worried about the catholic thing. Just say that it’s not part of my politics because I love America!
I’ve had professional mentors I wouldn’t take personal advice from. Spirituality isn’t (or shouldn’t be) business. “advice on all things” it a bit of a broad assumption. The separation of church and state would keep wright out of the white house. Not even bush had a preacher anywhere near it, and he’s the religious nut. You’re stretching.
Said it before, will say it again……..if the Rev Wright says those things from the pulpit, he doesn’t hold separation of church and state in any high esteem. The glorious tones Obama had for Wright at the beginning show how much his advice means to him.
“he doesn’t hold separation of church and state in any high esteem.” So Falwell et al. had any respect for that guideline?
Aside from that, I’m not defending, just speculating (because I’m willing to admit I don’t have my own research yet. Trolls take note) that Wright was just getting old and bitter after all these years? Maybe he wasn’t the same man that married the Obama’s. Even if he was, it’s very possible to agree to disagree with people you’ve known forever. My parents are conservative, and i’d take their advice on many things, but not politics. I think Obama is a free thinker enough to hold his own independent values, regardless of what people he knows think. You could bring the Liddy McCain thing and use the same argument. Does McCain advocate shooting ATF officers in the head because his friend does? Probably not. It’s the same argument. Guilt by association just is not a good argument. You don’t get to head the Harvard Law Review by being a sheep.
Honestly, knowing the church in Chicago where the Rev. Wright preaches, I don’t think that they would be willing to spare him to Washington. It takes a lot of work to find another preacher, no matter the denomination. And with a congregation that reaches the sizes there, I don’t think that the Rev. would feel the calling to go counsel one man over the many at that church.
Simply put, the fact that Obama called Wright his mentor, and we do not know on what area’s exactly, doesn’t mean that he endorses or even likes Wrights “black theology”. It’s again, like the Ayers connection, a guilt by association argument. And we all know that those arguments aren’t good.
Pastor’s can generally be considered personal mentors. I do not believe that a man who calls a outward minister of hate his mentor to be running our country.
His career isn’t over YET?
McCain a racist ? What are you smoking ? Some of Obama’s crack ? Who was it that sat in a church for twenty years listening to Racist Jerimiah Wright and donating money to him ?
Friggin’ hypocrite !
Have you ever met Rev. Wright? Have you ever listened to a full sermon? Or are you talking out of your ass, basing your entire view of the man on a few clips of footage from YouTube?
Have you any proof that the Obama family was in the audience? A photograph or *gasp* more video feed?
(Not to muddy the waters, but there is footage of Palin receiving a blessing by a pastor while he mentions the economic hardship America is facing is because the Jews control the money and not the Christians.)
As to the comment of racism, while I do think that term is overused, the woman suggested that Obama was a Muslim. McCain responded with, “No, he’s a decent family man.” He didn’t say, “No, Sen. Obama is a Christian, but there is nothing the matter with those of the Islam faith.” Through omission of words like that, he allows the ignorant thought that Muslim=Terrorist. He has (to the best of my knowledge) never tried to break this image either, nor has the GOP as a whole.
Why else mention Barack’s middle name so damn much?
Because Rev. John Hagee and Pastor Rod Parsley are well balanced individuals. Who aren’t at all racist.
And neither was Hitler.
Electing Barack Hussein Obama as president is like Israel electing some Fascist guy named Adolph Bitler as president
Sarcasm undetected by Mirrorman. So you have no answer about Hagee and Parsley?
He doesnt have ANY answers. He has insults, right wing talking points,
and some kind of weird view on how america and other people are.
Well, when all you have is a mirror, you really CAN’T see beyond the end of your own nose!! *gasp*
Wait a second, was that a Godwin as I understand from Seth’s post a few pictures back???????? (@ mirrorman, not minerva)
Yes, yes it is and per my promise I am to discuss my wang now.
My wang. Lynn wore a plaid skirt and my wang was satisfied. My wang is superior to Nazis. That is all.
Trying. Restraint. So. Many. responses. available. about. this . not. being. a very. LONG. conversation.
Ouch… my pride…
And all MAxwell has is lists about why you failed, how you failed, and how you will fail in the future.
Actually I stated my views on the subject. Which you obviously dont
agree with. Unfortunately I dont accept your views either. Im sorry
this makes you angry enough to spew insults. I just dont agree
that church and politics have any place together. And considering how
I rarely hear Obama mention god, much less try to make him a
centerpiece in his campaign, I am led to believe that ALSO thinks
church and state are separate.
I can’t even begin to point out the concentrations of fail in this post…
*sigh*
I cant either… I tried to make a new list but word gave me an error
“Error 3421: This proccessor has reached maximum capacity of fail”
I wasnt even halfway done either
I KNOW!!! I keep waiting for something from somebody…even Jon Stewart or Colbert and nothing!
watch the show about honor killings then come back and say that comment again
pwned XD
” Oh wait- I’m here cause Obama sucks !”
You should probably change your name to something besides Thor. You’re making me all excited that you’ll start making awesome Norse mythology comments and then you don’t and I am sad.
My dreams are shattered. ;_;
Yeah, I explained the other day that Thor was well loved as a champion of the people, thereby making him a democrat. He couldn’t take a joke and called me a toilet.
I hereby relieve him of Mjollnir for safekeeping until the real Thor returns and throws out this impostor.
Thor is some regular’s sock, obviously.
Bonuys for me though, now I have Mjollnir.
*bonus
Laugh, yes laugh while this country dies from Socialism and the evil racist Obama you annoint to drive us there.
I don’t think you know what Socialism is…
Most of the trolls shouting socialism haven’t got a clue what it really is.
This country is dieing from unregulated capitalism, jackass.
This country is dying from stupidity from jackasses like you.
Oh for…….*slap* LEAVE AND GO BACK TO YOUR MOMMA! *slap* *SLAP* (and those aren’t good slaps either, more of the b*tch variety
)
I dunno, they’re turning me on
On you I’d invoke spanking
*pouts* I thought I was your spank daddy. T_T
…
I have two hands, and a paddle in each
Ummm, I do the paddling not receive it. I will let go my claim and let herb have at it.
“Socialism”. You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
No, you are here because someone didn’t suck or have an abortion.
WIN!
NO, Obama’s a RADICAL, LEFTIST MUSLIM….enough said
Well at least he isn’t a communist.
Wait, I thought he was a communist. Or a socialist. Or a Socialist-communist.
How can he be a pinko? I thought he was black.
I dunno. I can’t keep up with all the contradicting names the right keeps on throwing at him. Next he’ll be called a fascist or something.
BECAUSE ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS ARE SO AWFUL!!!1!1!one!!1! OMG
Wait, I thought he was a radical lefitst black Christian intent on bringing down white America? Make up your mind!
I thought he was the antiChrist coming to bring about armageddon! Didn’t y’all get the email??
No no no, the Antichrist will be loved by all! Obama is liked by what, 46% of all?
WIN!
I thought he was a celebrity?
He’s the black Elvis !
He doesn’t have the sideburns for that.
nor the hair for that matter
Mitt Romney totally did, though.
nor the talent.
Ha ha, you make me laugh. Obama is centrist, not leftist (in the true sense of the word) and not really that radical either. As a left wing radical myself, I would define him as moderate.
As to being a Muslim, he has continually asserted that he is a Christian. And even if he is a Muslim, it’s not a crime.
If Obama was anymore left, he’d fall off the continental shelf.
His voting record is even more liberal than Kennedy- The Liberal’s Liberal.
Except that you obviously dont know what liberal means. No liberal in american
is actually a liberal, lest they be stoned in a McCarthy hale-storm of a communism witch hunt.
Max: it’s “hailstorm”. Otherwise you’re correct. Liberals aren’t liberals; we’re progressives, and our poster child isn’t Barack. Most likely, progressives wish the biparty system wasn’t so, so we could cast a vote for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader or Dennis Kucinich.
A dollar says that Mirrorman has only a vague idea who any of these folks are.
Ah, the illiterate left forgets that in America, it’s the Right that has to hide from the socialist witch hunt there.
Think Joe the Plumber !
Im not a leftist. You’re just failing yourself over and over again. Also if
I were illiterate, I wouldnt be typing here. You’re making yourself look bad
my friend. Im really starting to pity you. If you feel you’re being hunted
because you’re not a “socialist” then I should watch out. Im not a socialist either.
In fact, the wide majority of Americans arent either… Oh sh*t! We’re being
hunted!?
Seriously dude, get social skills counseling, cause your current ones are
failing you.
I’m pretty sure Joe the plumber wasn’t hiding from anybody. How many interviews has he done now? Oh, and as mentioned before, he’d a tax evading, non-licensed plumber who makes nowhere near $250K per year. In case you didn’t get the memo.
Oh for the love of Pete……get off that already! He’s not the most liberal, though he is in the top ten.
Id like to “get off that already” hehehe…
Oh god.. I mean.. Yes! I concur! Boobs.
F*ck!
*ahem* in bed >:-)
I approve of boobs. That is all.
I like laughing at jokes on both sides, but this one just isn’t funny. I think eddiepscetti’s joke is much better…
No, ‘your’ the one who’s ‘grateing’.
Gah! This was meant to nest under comment below.
That’s grate for democracy… If you disagree with him YOUR A RACIST!!!
Are you the poster child for No Child Left Behind?
Certainly not the poster child of Merriam-Webster’s
Come on people! It is clear that what James is trying to say is that Obama’s energy policy would mean we would have to install fireplaces in our homes for heat and that we would all get our very own racist for a pet. I’ve always wanted my own skinhead, it’s much better for my allergies then the breeds with hair.
*facepalms* Silly me!
I owe you one, Jane.
Logic Woman… to the rescue!
My hero!
(I opt for somewhat ambiguous term “hero” in part because I despise the diminutive variant “heroine”, and because the later is a typo away from being heroin.)
What, I want to inject Jane into my veins. That is some hardcore stuff.
No offense to Jane, but Id like to think she’d be much better “taken”
than through the eyeballs.
I could be wrong though.
I was going to say something along the lines of, “doctors recommend that Jane St.Clair be taken orally” but that would almost be too easy…
I was swimming in the same vein but decided the water was too
“Sexual harrassy”
Those are treacherous waters, laddie…
in Bed?
Only if I can hold the camera.
Hmm, I think my naughty ways have spread.
More like taken rectally considering what she trolls !
Back the hell off Jane and come back when you know what trolling is. Go look in a mirror if you want to see a troll. Whackjob.
*sigh*
My other female hero!
Jane is known on these boards for being the voice of reason.
She supplies not only humor, but sense in an otherwise senseless
forum. At first I thought maybe I could ignore you, but the more
you post the more I realize, you’re just another Evil Pundit.
You should check out his school “Evil Pundit’s Institution for
Corroborating Far-fetched Asinine Inconceivable Lies”
You’re already well on your way… might as well graduate, my firend.
Jane is a left wing sock puppet who screaches down any conservative viewpoint much like the hags on “The View”.
And yet, you’re the one who won’t shut up.
And you’re a right wing sock puppet who unlike EP, who actually has
a point, you dont. There I said it.. You’re pointless. I didnt want to have
to do that, but its obvious by your trolling comments you lack
purpose. You lack just about everything to be a contributing
source on these boards. You even have staunch “righties” like froofrou
calling you out. Get the hell out. No one wants you, and so far
you’re making everyone think that being Pro-choice… is suddenly
a perfectly justifiable stand point.
Such pure hate from the “Progressives ” here- you are full of hypocrisy and hatred and cannot tolerate an opposing viewpoint- therefore the absolute lack of any serious Obama LOL’s here and the smackdown of any dissenting viewpoint. It is the Democrat Thugocracy that needs to leave here and let everyone else debate evenly and without ridiculous insults and accusations.
Go taunt some preschool children with your childish insults, punk.
Mirrorman sees hate because of his mirror.
I would say In bed but the thought of an idiot with a mirror over his bed just bothers me. Then I clear the mental image by imaging that mirror shattering over his bed and pulling a Darwin for us.
Wow, that would be quite a mess to clean up.
I will call CSI. They will need to investigate.
*gives hugs to Max, Froofrou, minerva, and DWM* You guys rock.
Not as hard as you do, madam.
Im perplexed at being called purely hate filled from the guy who
has YET to post a comment that doesnt include an insult,
inflammatory comment, or just plain nonsense.
In bed with a 2×4 with a nail in it. Anger issues I sense.
And don’t you forget it! Side effects may include the uncontrollable need to try and inject logic into moronic statements, which often creates frustration when logic is ignored in favor of repeating mindless talking points.
“Very habit forming. Don’t take Jane while driving heavy machinery or conducting a symphony…”
Logic? More like liberal insults and belittling.
OH Rorsc, you are adorably predictable. When I first came on this board, Jane called me, a leftist, out for being too strident. When was the last time you saw a righty calling another righty out like that? She really is one of the major voices of reason here. Find me ONE single case of Jane insulting anyone. Go on, put up or shut up.
Awwww, thanks Seth! *hugs*
Are you a zpellling Nazi… (And yes DW that’s not spelled right…)
Every one has a shortcoming I wander if yours isn’t something more important than grammar
Are you a zpellling Nazi… (Yes DW I know that’s not spell right…)
Every one has a shortcoming I wander if yours isn’t more important then grammar…
My computer is about to take a long walk in to the woods with me & my shotgun…
What? This woman called Obama an ‘Arab,’ using that to explain why she is afraid of an Obama presidency. How exactly is that not racism?
It is racism, just like McCain’s implication that Arabs are not decent family men. Blatant and subtle racism and bigotry has shifted in America from black people to people of middle eastern decent.
But when two black men beat a white man to death its still not a hate crime.
In my eyes, any murder is a hate crime. Every murder is spawned by hate of something. Race is a non issue.
You are correct. So at what point are we allowed to drop the ‘hate crime’ label? It’s getting way overused, and for the wrong things.
Well yes, Im one of those crazy people that believe racism,sexism, classism
will be a non issue when its no longer recognized. But hell… I dont really
see that happening cause everyone wants a reason for whats happened to
them besides “My choices sucked” or “I suck.”
So why are we on opposite sides of the aisle again?
Uh because Im pro-choice, pro tax-and-spend, and pro universal health care?
Other than the issues you mean?
And in reality to be fair, I am an independent. I was never on the
other side of the isle, just sitting IN the isle… so no one can get out
when the building sets on fire.
funny how all the screaming Liberals here call themselves ” centrist” or “Independent”.
Who’s screaming?
Your mom last night.
Sorry, that was not only off topic but uncalled for, and I just can’t help it.
Levity helps. Bring it!
Dammit! I was so close!
“Pro-life”, “Pro-getting the government out of everything including spending money that I have made through hard work and don’t want to give to anyone else”, and “Pro-making healthcare affordable for everyone and telling insurance companies to compete or die” over here 
Id go with the competitive healthcare, but I also believe that there
should be an option.. even if it is a crap one… when you cant afford
said competitive prices.
You see… my beliefs are far too complicated for me to call myself
a liberal or conservative… I believe our military needs to be strong enough
for us to be able to say “Remember Pearl Harbor? Remember Hiroshima?
Yeah.. dont f*ck with us.” I believe a man should be able to own a
weapon to hunt with and defend himself with, and on that same note
if you’re illegaly on someone else’s property with questionable intent…
Better check yo’self be you wr-wr-wreck yo’self.
While on the other side of the token I believe welfare is GREAT when its not
abused. I believe every girl under the age of 18 needs a blinking
red light on their head until their 18th birthday. “You are charged with
statutory rape, how do you plead?”
‘Not Guilty!’
“Did you see the blinking red light?”
‘Well.. yes..’
“Guilty! Take him away.”
Im just… odd. Heaven help this country if I run for president.
I hang out with Felons, christians, muslims, jews, arsonists, junkies,
drug dealers, college professors, musicians, and worst of all I know
a network of lawyers. It would be a… fun election year.
*sigh* I’m going to have to change from Repub to Indy. You just basically described my entire belief system, except for hard core Pro-Life.
haha. Most people are fairly moderate, whether they realize it or not. Yu might find yourself strongly on one side of the aisle, but quite on another about something else. It’s getting them to admit it that is the trouble. What we need is to get congress to actually discuss things like they used to. Actually DEBATE every issue, and find the most workable solution. Obviously ther would still be debate on best approach, but some things we can all agree are right or wrong for the country. I was looking for the quote, but I can’t remember who said it. Some old senator like Reid or Warner said not that long ago something like “”We don’t debate anymore, everyone just shows up and votes.”
Once again, I suggest my plan: a five-party system with Instant Runoff Voting. Statistically, we would end up with a rather centrist government, but most people would be somewhat complacent as one of their candidates made the roster.
Few countries have a strict two-party system like ours. It wasn’t even set up that way, but evolved somehow out of multiple parties earlier in the game. I say blame the Whigs.
Funny. I blame the Democrat-Republicans.
I blame the masses who can’t wrap their brain around the concept of more than two parties.
True, the masses have been trained like pavlov’s dog on the two party system. Maybe everyone gets shipped off to Britain or someplace for a couple years before they come back and are allowed to vote. Hopefully not against their best interests like they are doing now.
Yeah, I tend to run Libertarian myself. The problem w/government controlled things (DMV, IRS, USPS, Social Security, Medicaid) is that they inevitably degenerate into limping, pathetic excuses for what they started as. And I actually one time designed an armband for underage girls to wear to protect men from predators, like that 13-year-old in Florida who’s now put two guys in prison for stat rape.
I find myself agreeing pretty hard with Max there. Almost to a tee. I can’t really see where I differ actually. Strange… I’m not unique. T_T
Okay, emo whining over.
You should know by now that the stress of being a teen is all about developping your own identity while trying to be exactly the same as everybody else in order to “fit in”.
So glad I was just the mellow goth. Made things simple. And yes, I avoided the goth crowd since I didn’t want to pierce or tattoo anything or whine too much.
Tell that to the republican who thinks he had his car vandalized because it had a Nobama sticker. He called it a hate crime. Funny how repubs dislike the concept of hate crimes but whine about it when they think it happened to them.
Hate is hate is hate, but the word tends to get thrown around more when you’re talking about crimes against minorities.
It was a white republican…
Thank you Captain Obvious. I was referring to the fact that a hate crime is still a hate crime regardless as to what color the victim is.
Agreed. And my new favorite is, “You have a firm grasp of the obvious.”
Why are you looking at what I grasp in bed?
Perhaps because it is minorities who are singled out for being not in the, um, majority?
Come to my state. I’m a minority here
Which may explain our differences…I’m a registered independent, too, btw.
We don’t register here. We vote as the mood strikes us
In booths…
Or the firebombings of McCain signs. Guaran-damn-tee you if it was Obama signs, that’d be all they’d show on the news. Course, if Palin said half the dumb ass things Biden has said, it’d be all they’d show on the news, but that’s a different issue entirely.
*commits a love crime on froofrou*
Sweet! I know what else I’m asking for tonight *evil grin*
*tips hat*
My pleasure, ma’am.
Gah, I’m being outdone!!! Least I am being outdone with class and style.
Are you talking about a specific case, or in general? Because when I clicked your name I read stuff about the separation of church and state, not hate crimes.
I left that link in there by accident. Sorry
And it was in general.
Its actually about how two black men beat a white man with separation of church and state… its an odd offense.. but it happens.
Red herring fail!
Says who? Sounds pretty hateful to me.
“That isn’t a hate crime, Michael.”
“Well I hated it.”
I didn’t know that she had sad that and I took this as a general attack on rep.s, but I still think people who don’t vote fore him(Obama) will still be labeled racist.
I should say Obama @#$%’s chickens and see how many reply’s I git…
That is so FUNNY!
Great job.
Seriously, that woman was one breath away from using the N-word.
Yeah, but then her oxygen machine went out and she couldn’t take that fateful breath. It’s very sad.
No logic here, just insults
How is that an insult? Are you seriously that easy to offend, or are you just trying to win points? It was a joke, moron. See? THAT is an insult. To morons.
Lol, that woman got pwnd by her own candidate. Epic fail.
Agreed, and I love the way the she claims that she’s uncovered so much more about Obama’s background and motives – more than the whole Republican Party!
She’s a sekrit old woman spy!!!
85th and WTF!!!!!! lol
How to make a Liberal go into a rabid fit- take what they say and turn it around– they can’t stand their own hypocrisy !!!!
If you could do it efficiently, you’d be a half-way decent troll.
You, “sir”, are something more akin to an inchoate goblin.
Sad really. He is a bit reptilian. Maybe a skinny kobold?
I hate kobolds. In a hat, in the walls, in a trap, at the mall. I hate kobolds, yes I do. I hates kobolds through and through.
Even drunken kobolds?
Drunken kobolds, kobolds in drag, In eggs, tied to pegs, Oh I find all kobolds to be useless dregs.
Ah, same tactics. Get faced with real arguments, with actual sources and run away, only to make immature insults that can’t be backed up with any logic whatsoever. Good job. You fill the bill as troll in EP’s absence.
How to make a neo-conservative go into a rabid fit- take what they say and turn it around– they can’t stand their own hypocrisy !!!!
Are you Mirrorman? Or just lacking in originality ?
Rorsc <– clearly misses point of repetition.
Y’all realize Obama is an Arab, right? Father was like 98% Arab. Of course, that really has nothing to do with anything at all, but if you’re gonna post a lol, at least make it resemble accuracy. Just a thought.
Last time I checked, Kenya is not part of the Arabian peninsula. And you can’t be 98% anything.
Tell that to Obama. o:
Barack Obama’s father, Barack Obama, Sr. was a Luo from Kenya. The Luo tribe are scattered all over East Africa and are most definitely AFRICAN. They are not of Arabic background and are not immigrants to Africa. They’ve been there since God was in short pants.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab
his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African
I made a somewhat related pic. I doubt it’ll ever make the main page, but why should that stop me?
It’s under the account name “Illustrious” because ICHC network doesn’t like two-character user names.
Oh yeah, forgot to say: click my name to see it.
Is good.
Here’s one I made a week or so ago that I’m not sure if it even submitted properly.
Ha! Kind of a meta-lol.
*sees what you did there*
LOL, nice. Reminds me of my cardboard obama lol that will never see the light of day.
Don’t feel bad. My lols don’t even make it to the voting page
I still love you though.
AWWW! Ditto
*big fat smooch*
Ah I love the smell of woman in the early afternoon. So refreshing. *hugs*
Should put the link to your lolz in your name like I do. At least then we could see them easily.
*does just that*
They’re not that funny, though
Could use refinement but I found two I am going to favorite.
Hee! Thank you!
Aaaaaand friended back!
WOOT!!! I am pleasured!
In bed!
XD
Long time?
Oh, TOTALLY. I have tricks.
Sexcellent………
Mine never do either, so I’m reduced to plugging them in other discussion threads. It’s all good, though. Obama’s back up to an eleven point lead in the Gallup poll, so what’s there to complain about?
That’s not a lol. The irony is fantastic and I voted for it, but really I don’t like sad lols. This makes my heart hurt.
I’m sorry to cause you pain. Still, our brother- and sister-citizens who happen to be Islamic or of Arab descent are feeling that pain every day, even as some of them die fighting for this country. It’s not right that McCain partisans should try to slime their opponent by insinuating that he’s Arab or Muslim, when there’s nothing inherently wrong with being either of those things. (Except that I think all religion is bogus, but that doesn’t really bear on the matter.)
This was the most painful and red neck thing I’ve EVER seen in my life and I watched it like 9 times.
So you’re a masochist then? I heard there were some people into that
*whistles innocently*
Was I paged? I brought my elk leather flogger and my rope flogger, just in case. And I have big hands for those who want a more personal touch.
Variety is the spice of life
Lynn is getting her birthday present tonight though her birthday is tomorrow. I plan to show her a wad of variety.
Ooooh lucky girl! Congratulations!
My birthday is next Thursday
I’m hoping to get a nice present as well… my vet is taking me out again, yay!
I will keep my fingers crossed for you. You deserve a great birthday.
It was my Grandma, the typical white woman!
sadly…this happened in my state i believe
400th!
click my name for a funny video
As a parody of all the silly things uninformed people believe about the Obama ticket? I can list them by line items and debunk the items if you want.
Not trying to pick on you personally, but this really is silly.
While some of them are plain silly some of them hold truth. I laughed at the gasoline bit and the future hitlers bit. But the “I’m Voting Republican” Video has even more silliness in it(just go to the link for I’m Voting Dem, it’s in the related videos)
According to that video, “seperate but equal” is still in cases that the conservative supreme court is upholding.
For clarification, I laughed at those bit because they are a stretch of the imagination
One more. My name now contains a different link
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (
his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African