If we look at the parties as they were, Obama falls squarely in the center. Obama loves America, he cares about small business and building the American Dream. He is only trying to make sure that dream remains accessible to all, as the founding fathers intended when they specifically stated things like “no titles of nobility shall be granted.” Obama may or may not have said he admires those economic philosophies, I didn’t read the book. Admiring an IDEAL does not mean someone wants to immediately implement it. This is silly all/nothing thinking. The fact remains that America has always been a combination of capitalism and socialism. No one wants to change that. Use your logic.

Admit it, you know you want me in charge.

Most of you Leftists who post here–which is most of you, with a handful of exceptions–lack both knowledge of history and the intellectual honesty to either seek out or admit the facts. Communists–they still exist–are the enemies of the United States. Some of you have talked of the “freedom” to elect “Socialists”–which is merely a euphemism for Communists. Communism has been a failure everywhere it has been tried. And once Communists are elected into power, those are historically the last free elections in that unfortunate country for a long time.

Obama has repeatedly spoken and written of his admiration for Communism and Socialism–which is to say, Communist Socialism, which is to say Marxism. THE MAN IS A COMMUNIST IN ALL BUT NAME. McCarthy was correct, but was successfully discredited in his time by the American Socialist movement. As a result, Communists and Socialists have infiltrated our schools and government to the point that they are on the verge of putting another man in the White House. (I am convinced that Bill Clinton was a mole. After all, he got away with things for which Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in the 50s.)

So don’t try your nonsense with me. It gets you no where.

I have a problem with a monopoly in the area that is a publically traded company that is a UTILITY, with a CEO that has multimega millions of dollars in revenue. I’ve tried to come to terms with it….how to break it apart and diffuse the monopoly…but its physically impossible. We’re talking about a physical grid that is built to be one grid for one company.

My only solution is to make it non profit (allowing for R&D, maintenance, and expansion). It’s a public utility. It’s not a right, but it feels like one should have access to electricty and gas should your house be heated by gas, and it shouldn’t be played with in the stock market.

Almost socialistic….but here’s the problem with giving to the government. They’ll screw it up. They screwed up Fannie, they screwed up Iraq, they’ll screw up walking across the street. Its not just Reps or Dems, its BOTH of them.

I think the only final solution is to go with a man made hydro electric dam/nuclear power plant and just make it state owned with a private contracter to operate and maintain as well as do service calls….keep some price and quality competition going that way.

And I didn’t realize you were asking about comptg police forces in the same area (Call 911 or 811 for emergencies-rates will vary). The reason it doesn’t exist is because that is fiscally nuts. Two police forces in one metro city would annihilate any kind of streamlined sense of community or justice. Not only that, but how would you grade them? Most arrests? Speeding quotas (whoops, already have those)?

Nah, it’s open season for more corruption than there already is. And again, cops and fire and animal control and garbage men etc etc are just common sense for large cities to have, and it’s not socialist at all. In fact its very capitalist. We pay the city to keep us protected from crime, fire, anthrax, and to keep the place clean. It’s what they call the Citizen Contract. The service is NOT free….sure it’s for the common good, but that doesn’t mean Marx had anything to do with it seeing as how the concept predates him by about 2500 years.

And the failure of the market in my neck of the woods for electric is do to physical limitations, not one of ecomonics….unless I’m just missing your point altogether. Totally possible.

Private police is very close to private army.

Keep up or take notes

And the casting for the movies is, in fact, awesome.

However, I am going to have one very, very difficult time watching pt 2 of Deathly Hallows when it’s released.

And to think that Hermoine had been displaying healing skills, and neither she nor Potter had the presence of mind to check Snape’s pockets for a bezoar in case that snake was packing venom!

Dunderheads, indeed!

Benito Mussolini said fascism should really be called “corporatism”. There’s a guy who would know a thing or two about the subject. People often see “the ‘f’ word” and immediately think ‘totalitarianism’, but they are not one and the same. Hence, when we call the Bush Administration ‘fascists’ we’re closer to the truth than the apologistas want to admit.

Also, since you’ve been in those swank, sprawling gardens of luxury we call Section 8 housing, you’ll understand that the lifestyles of those who inhabit them are not so sweet as to discourage working in order to escape from there. The argument that the possibility of living in crime-infested, underserved public housing discourages people from working is ludicrous.

Leaving sections of the populace to die if they don’t ‘pull their weight’ is the stuff of the lower species. But I should expect such attitudes from those who don’t believe we’ve evolved, but were ‘put here’ by an all knowing all-powerful entity that ‘loves us’ but still watches passively as we slowly destroy each other in his name.

I have to tell you, that experience was a real eye opener. I worked with guys that claimed to have back problems that once they hit the state mandated 6 weeks on the job suddenly couldn’t work anymore because of said pain and went and got disability for 6 months. This particular guy could be found asleep at any point in time in the day, hidden away somewhere. How he never got fired I’ll never know.
Then there were guys that worked like crazy for the 8 bucks only to be laid off at the end of the project…and they accepted it as part of life. Most of the crew I worked with took off on Friday as soon as the checks showed up. I consider myself as a bit of a slacker but I was one of the best employees they had and it was proved as I got kept to stay on and go to the next project and they all got laid off.

There is a whole subsection of America that works for crap wages and doesn’t think that they can get ahead and some of those folks say “Screw it, I’m getting mine for nothing” and go about finding ways to scam disability, unemploymentm, etc and not work.

When Obama says that he wants to take from people that make over 250k and give to those “less fortunate” THOSE are the people he wants to give the money too. And they absolutley don’t deserve it. In America, you have the right to be a loser. You have the right to fail. You have the right to not be ambitious. The trade off is that you’re not going to be able to afford a flat screen TV, a PS3, a new car, new kicks, etc. These are not people that live in poverty because they don’t work, they live in poverty because they have $2500 dollars worth of funiture from Aaron’s that they can’t afford. And they deserve to get the wealth spread to them? Screw that noise.

That’s my line in the sand. We cannot wage class warfare, I’ve seen what happens first hand when the rich see less money coming their way, they start cutting employees. I don’t know about all of you, but I’ve never been employed by a homeless man.

And class warfare is the first step in a process to take us to either socialism or facism (AIG, Fanny Mae, another 300 billion bailout coming next week…wtf??!?!?).

For a group of people that swear up and down they love diversity, they can’t stand fiscal diversity. You can be white, but just not wealthy. You can be Black, but not own a small business. They are so damn selective in what’s “Tolerant”, it makes me question how tolerant they really are.

Class warfare, redistro….those are key ingredients of a socialist society in its infancy. So that’s why I say, yes…..he’s a socialist. And by which I mean John McCain.
Kidding…totally Obama.

And thanks for “Hello there”, and yer right, I guess I could tone it down. I’m just used to seeing people go “Red red red”…NO! “Blue Blue Blue” when neither group realizes both parties are the problem and not the solution.

so hello there right back at ya and I’ll try to keep the smugness down to a minimum….hard to do though….I’m Huguenot.