$150K wardrobe.
Pffft. Amateur.
(Cindy McCain)
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in order to crush the hopes of anyone hoping to be first
ok…
Obama’s styrofoam Nuremberg cost $5,300,000.
Curiosity speaking here, how much did the Greek temple cost?
Not bad EP… your first post in days and now we have to talk about DWN’s wang now…
So… here goes…
Some people are scared of the dark, but I dont think its the dark they’re scared of… its what they’ve been eating! Old hamburgers made around lunch time? Thats
zombies rising from the crypt scary! If you’re up late, you should try DWN’s wang
a wonderful mosaic of all natural flavor in one nice little package…
Its waaaay better than fast food, Its DWN’s wang!
LOL, That is the rule.
LOL, oh so that’s where the wang thing came from? I never knew. I must’ve missed that conversation. LOL Thanks guys.
Even in my absence, my wang lives on…
in bed..
Especially there.
FIRST!?
Ah damn, missed it by minutes..
Nah I was basically replying to his comment, when he said he was ruining it for others.
Oh, in that case, press on..
She scares me.
Agreed.
Mostly because she seems tragic. Power by association, but where does it get her? Where’s the human element?
Actually, most celebrities make me feel like this.
Does her $40, 000 suit, “worth” an entire family’s yearly income mean anything? Probably not.
It may mean something to the company who she bought it from and the people who have jobs because that company can sell things… Human element, what about her charity work?
You guys DO realize that $40K is more than a lot of people make in an ENTIRE YEAR? On a single outfit. That’s disgust, not jealousy. If I won the lottery, I’s still shop practically, not for status. I don’t deny that her charity work may benefit some people, but that hardly makes her a saint. Her charity appears more as window dressing than anything.
Look at people like Paul Newman. He gave more than half of his riches away, and lived simply in Connecticut, instead of a lavish Hollywood lifestyle. His salad dressing company gave 100% of its profits to charity. he didn’t make a dime from it. That stuff is real charity. And I don’t think Newman was a saint either. I don’t think anybody wealthy should give away half of what they have either.
I’m saying only that a little bit of charity doesn’t make up for the fakeness and corruption, etc.
(Aside, not very many people work for the companies that make one-of-a-kind couture, they have a handful of employees and just charge exorbitant prices)
Maybe, but the people who work for the company get paid and they spend that money on food and other things, it’s nothing different than the government taking 40,000 and distributing it around to who they see fit… I know the McCains give quite a bit of money to charity, the rest I’m sure is invested in the economy which benefits all of us (it’s not under their mattress).
So… 40K for one dress that about 5 people at most made? I can think of way better ways to contribute. Like going to any other clothing store, that employs hundreds if not thousands of people. Thats a better investment to me. That shows you care about the common man.
Personally if I ran for president Id appear at rallies in my jeans and my “Chick
Flick” t-shirt… I mean seriously… do you HAVE to spend $40k on something
just so that you “look nice?” Its all just a status symbol. That symbol being
I can spend more money on one dress than you can earn to make ends meet.
Thats NOT the kind of image Id want to put forth when Im campaigning about saying “Country First.”
Well it’s her money and her’s to do with as she sees fit, I know the clothes that the RNC bought for Palin is going to be donated to charity and will benefit many others because they will probably sell for more than they paid for them. Shall we just close down the whole designer clothing industry because they cost to much? I wouldn’t buy something like that myself but I dont fault others for their choices.
No one said anything about shutting it down. What we’re talking about here
is the fact that McCain is trying to show that he’s in touch with the american
people. People who will probably NEVER be able to afford a $40k dress.
One of the many his wife owns, Im sure. The designer clothing industry
isnt the issue here though. Not at all. The issue is that when you’re talking about
you’re in touch with the American people and against wasteful spending,
How in the hell do you justify a $40k dress?
Well, she is still an American and I don’t think that because she can afford to spend 40k on a dress it makes her any less American or any less able to identify with American’s. I don’t hold it against her even though I wouldn’t do it if I ever had that much money, but I can’t imagine ever having that much. Maybe if I did have that much I would, who knows? Rich and poor we are all still Americans.
Well the way I see it, if you can spend 40K on a dress, you dont have to
come face to face with realities that the middle/lower class does on
a daily basis. We’re going back to the “Shall we eat tonight? Or buy new drapes?”
And no one, definately not me, said anything about being Unamerican.
Its not my place to say that… that’s the GOP’s job.
What I am saying is that when you have that large of financial gap,
you’re going to have differences of view. Thats just simple fact.
Ive worked for more corporations than I care to, and have been in
the upper and middle management of said corporations, and I can tell
you, as much as the republicans call us centrists and liberals
“idealistic” the right is FAR more idealistic to think that those guys up
on top, who will(and I saw this with my own eyes and quit on the
spot) while talking on his cell phone, trip over a homeless person
and tell the homeless person to watch himself, will let go of any money
that they dont have to. THATS idealism. Thats being naive. It hasnt happened
in the past 15 or so years that these trickle down economics have been
running the market, and its not ever going to work, because we’re
rewarding greed instead of punishing it. And we’re all paying the price.
Ive watched my pension and 401K plummet by almost 45% in the past
MONTH. Meanwhile the folks causing this mess get bailouts to go to
private resorts on “emergency conferences”.
I…..
Ok… Im going to stop. Im getting myself angry. My final thought, and
I quit.. I have yet to meet ONE person, that isnt already in charge,
that has benefited from these “trickle down” economics….
Im done…
Well, and the people that made money because they worked for the company that sold that 40k dress? Yeah, I doubt they were Americans. It was probably made for pennies over seas, if it even came from an American designer, which it probably didn’t. I’m not saying she can’t spend her money the way she wants to. I am saying that she can’t turn around and act like she knows what it’s like to be in touch with the American people because I don’t even make 40k in a year.
Just to poke the bear again:
I believe that DWM said on a different thread that “I thought we had gotten away from the ‘one of us’ with W.” (paraphrasing) So now when they dress MUCH BETTER than us it’s just as bad?
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THere are missionaries in Central America who are almost forced to live in the biggest houses, wear the nicest clothes, and eat the best food, because if they wear what the common people wear and eat the common food, the feeling is ‘well, if you’re the same as me, why do I need to become a Christian?’
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Being a politician, especially at this level, forces you to act a certain way that you might not act in your normal life. A Hollywood celebrity wouldn’t be caught dead in jeans and a tee shirt unless those jeans and tee shirt cost more than my car. The reason being, they are EXPECTED to dress that way. It ‘gives the common man something to strive for.’
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What kind of argument would we be having about Sarah Palin as trailer trash if she went to Wal-Mart and bought all of her clothes?
He was talking about Palin when he made that comment BTW. He was using it completely in a different context about “folksiness” vs. intelligence, etc. I can poke the bear back by saying that’s typical republican tactics of taking what was said out of context to mean something else. You wouldn’t be guilty of that, right froufrou? *smiles innocently*
Of course not!
What I’m doing is showing that (once again) both sides are using the same argument. It’s getting irritating, hehe.
I personally would welcome it as a breath of fresh air to see
McCain in a rugby polo from Target with a nice pair of cargo pants.
Showing that you shop the same places I do, using the same
expense budget that I do not only shows me you’re more in touch.
but that you also dont feel the to “needlessly” (and I use that word
lightly) blow your money on things that can be had at a much more
sensible price.
There is a difference between spending the same amount of money on one dress that a family can make in a year and a wal-mart t-shirt. There is middle ground between the two. I don’t believe that politicians are just like us, it just seems a bit “let them eat cake” for me. I think the whole “one of us” thing refers to intellectual elitism, the idea that if someone sounds to smart they’re an elitist and therefore out of touch, and I just don’t agree with that. In that case, I WANT my president to be smarter than me. I’m not faulting Cindy McCain for having money, but to me there is a world of difference between intellectual elitism and monetary elitism.
BINGO!
I know really smart people who don’t define themselves in how much money the spend, how many houses they own or what car they have. Simple honest people who have the brains to know that it’s not about what you have but whio you are.
Yaaaaa, as the person who said One of Us, I was talking intellectually. We voted in somebody who was One of Us intellectually and it got us W. McCain isn’t showing to be smarter than the average bear. He isn’t even showing to be clever average. I want somebody smarter than me on this problem.
As for the money issue, don’t give me how 40k for an outfit will trickle down to the little guy. No, it won’t. You don’t pay 40k for an outfit made in a factory. You do that for designer/tailored items meaning it goes to a small group of people who service the rich. That isn’t in touch with anything close to the common man.
How much did Michelle Obama’s dress cost ? And what’s the difference? How much does Hollywood spend on gowns and stuff during the Acadamy awards ?
Should they go in jeans and Tshirts and give the money to charity?
That’s a lovely idea, actually.
That was my plan when I made it to the red carpet
“Excuse me, who are you wearing?”
“Uh… jeans and a YMCA t-shirt.”
The Dem spending records showed no similar spending. Name clickage can ensue.
I’ve also read a piece that stated the Obamas and the Bidens were wearing their own clothes (i.e., not funded by the party at all) but I can’t find it anymore so I’m not sure about the reliability of that source.
I remember reading something about Michelle saying she wishes she could get Barack to buy some new clothes. She says he’s been wearing the same pants for 10 years. Not sure if I buy that at face value, but it seems to me that he would have a more practical approach to getting the full value out of things, considering the way he was raised.
I dubt either John or Cindy have EVER really struggled financially their entire lives. He’s the son of admirals, she’s a beer heiress. How can they possibly relate to their beloved “Joe six-pack.” Empathy can be a talent, but the lions share of this ability comes from experience, which they don’t have.
The vast majority of the stars on the red carpet on Oscar night have either bought their duds and are going to donate them to charity after the Oscars, or have them on loan from the designers who want to publicize their lines. Pretty much all the jewelry is on loan.
Give the gowns to charity ?
“I’m sorry you don’t have a job, but here, have this lovely designer gown !”
They usually auction them off for more than the wearer paid because they were worn by a celebrity. The money then goes to help the needy.
Expect to see a bunch of homeless men walking around in Palin’s skirt suits in a month or so…
I would rather she just kept them and gave lap dances instead…
Not to be picky but… I am not electing Hollywood so I don’t care what they spend. I already think they are overpaid and pampered.
She had the money, she bought it
It’s her right as an American to do so.
Mind your own damn business before somebody starts minding yours.
Funny…
Say that about abortions and people get their panties in a bunch.
Because dresses and babies are EXACTLY the same thing….
Well when you campaign, you can deal with all the rich people in the government that will be angry with you because you make them look bad by giving up your money when they don’t. And those same rich people who will have a hard time liking you because you don’t fit in with them.
And then you can deal with the media coverage that focuses on your K-mart brand t-shirt. And the majority of your voters, who will follow the media’s views and gossip about how you think you can run the country but can’t buy a good suit/dress for yourself. Oh, and then deal with all the parties and events you’ll be invited to but won’t have appropriate attire for.
I’m not saying it’s right. I’m saying lay off someone who is stuck in a position in which they have to meet certain standards.
Or perhaps.. maybe they could tell the rich that its not about clothing?
Because as we all know, the rich make up the majority of the voting popuplation.
And I think the fact that you make on average of 100K or more a year would say that you CAN dress yourself, you just choose not to.
And from what Ive seen no one’s tried to break the standards before…
so how do we know no one will accept it?
And as much as Id like to “lay off” it. This is an election. This about the next
leader of the nation. Im saddened that you feel just dropping it is a good
way to get past the issue.
I also still have yet to see a good reason why “dressing well” = buying
a 40K dress/suit whatever.. I know lots of folks who look damn fine in
what they wear, without spending even 2% of that kind of money.
Exactly! Besides, there are other things you can spend your hard earned money on, such as a new tricked out alienware computer (and no, I can’t afford one, who wants to buy me one?), cable or on the more practical side, gas.
Wow, you make it sound like there’s no middle ground between a $ 40,000 dress and a K-Mart tee.
Of course not! It’s either one extreme or the other! You’re either with us or against us! You either support the war or you hate the troops! You’re either religious or you have no morals! You’re either a good American or a terrorist!!!
And by “good” or “real” american, you have to be republican. And if you’re not republican, you must be a democrat (because you have to agree with one or the other). Independents, libertarians and the others just don’t exist.
The CEO of the company will likely get most of that $40,000 in a nice golden parachute into retirement.
Of course, the people sewing that $40,000 dress are getting paid minimum wage, so her wearing the dress, eh, not helping them that much.
Sorry, got wound up. I meant I don’t think we should require half of everybody’s fortune to be given away, I was never referring to “redistribution”(Newman really did do this though.)
It never ceases to amaze me that Ema can justify anything…
Usually, the first lady gets haute couture for free. I’m not sure about candidate’s wives, though.
It would appear that you’re projecting your prejudices onto someone else. Or could it be envy? I don’t know the lady at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she contributes heavily to charities. While on the surface she IS scary, don’t assume you know a person’s intentions based on what you see.
I’ll admit she can be..
in bed!
with McCain.. oh God, that was one comment to much!
Im sorry Mr. *stares at your e-license* Pescetti… P-Scet- Im sorry Ed, but Im
going to have to write you a citation for extending a thread past the bounds of
anyone’s intestinal fortitude..
*hangs head in shame*
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I’ll pay the fine, I know it was too much for the mind to bear and I accept total responsibility for my thoughtlessness.
I like the way McCain is standing behind her as if he’s been switched off.
LOL republicans are rich and greedy lol!
Right, they should just give their money away instead of buying things with it and investing it (which actually helps the economy and the rest of us). Besides they give a ton to charity and she does mega-volunteer work.
right, all that charity and volunteer work to make sure the system doesn’t change and poor people keep getting screwed.
I’m sure that’s her motivation… geez. How come the charity work the government does doesn’t have the same effect?
oh, but it does!
oki doki!
Listen, Ema, sweetie. I go to a Quaker school – of which I will not name 0and we all are very much for charity and community service. Heck! I got an academic commendation the other day for helping out my school nurse re-certify the school coaches in CPR. I did it after school – on my own time – because I wanted to help. My school mandates doing certain amounts of time of community service per year, and not only am I already doing my part as we are required with my advisory, I’m doing 3 different projects on my own time, helping a teacher with lesson plans, doing odd jobs for the nurse (again) and I walk dogs for someone with multiple illnesses. Now I know now that I’ve just stated that, this is going to sound really hypocritical, but if you’re going to give to charity and ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE, shouldn’t you not brag about it like she does? Cindy McCain is doing this for the publicity, not because she cares! And she’s just rubbing it into the faces of the poor that they “need” her help and her money by wearing something that costs more than most families in America make in a year! Now I shouldn’t be one to talk, my schooling costs not much under that. But seriously, I know again this will sound ridiculously hypocritical because of the last comment, but she doesn’t need to always brag about how much her stupid (fugly too) dress cost! Anyway, before I sign off, seriously, how much community service does SHE PERSONALLY DO, and how much (percentage wise) does SHE donate to charity!?! Answer. I dare you. Anyway, I’m out, gotta go plan an Obama support rally with my friends. Go suck on the Obama/McCain poll margins. Peace, and suck it.
Corrections – and, not and0. that, AND this. My computer doesn’t let me see part of what I’m typing, the box is too small.
Wow. I don’t know that she herself talks about any of this stuff, she is under intense media scrutiny because her husband is running for the presidency, as it should be. I believe she was doing her charity work long before that…
She was. I cut her some slack for that. How she spends her money is her business.
The issue in my mind is Palin’s freeloading off the RNC, while saying that she’s just like the rest of us Walmartin’ PTA moms. It bugs me because I know people working in low-wage jobs who probably sent what 5 or 10 they could because they think these bozos will stop abortions. And Palin uses it to buy designer clothes. What a fraud.
I wish people would stop being so hard on Cindy. Sarah’s the one on the ticket.
I never really lent too much credit to the rich giving charity unless it was huge amounts. The reasoning is simple, it is a tax write off. It is petty of me but meh, it is how I feel. I don’t begrudge the rich for being rich, good for them. I just refuse to pretend that trickle down economics actually works or that they are doing anything for me. They are doing it for their own bottom line, if they help charities, that’s nice but they probably have more on their mind than altruism.
I am annoyed that Sarah is spending donations on clothes.
I agree. There are a few true philanthropists, but they are definitely the exception, not the rule. And considering the write-off, the charity “giving” doesn’t really amount to much sacrifice at all.
“…And she’s just rubbing it into the faces of the poor that they “need” her help and her money…”
But they have no problem taking the governments money as long as it’s given to them by Obama correct?
Carry on lapdog, carry on.
Government programs arent charity. Troll more and fail more.
Right- charities do not come after you with guns and jail you if you don’t give to them.
Giving money away doesn’t mean it won’t be spent or invested later. Rather, it is more likely to spent more quickly.
Not all, TC.. ok, I’ll admit to being greedy to a certain degree, but I’m damn sure not rich. The truth is, almost every Republican I know contributes consistently to charities and do so out of social conciousness. And without a doubt, there are those that are just plain greedy and contribute squat. However, I might have agreed with you had you said ‘some’.
Knowing TC I think he may have meant sarcasm there
Dang.. yeah, ok.. It’s been awhile since I’ve interacted with TC on here.. TC, if it was sarcasm, my apolgies. If it wasn’t, my comment stands..
Ema’s got me pegged.
This made me smile, lets me know I’m missed when I’m gone.
I’m a democrat and I donate to Child’s Play.
Greed powers the economy, like George Carlin said:
“If you neighbor gets a vibrator that sings ‘O’ Come all ye Faithful’ you want one too.”
Uh, no, I don’t think I would.. but I get your point.
I don’t…..
I would… imagine the Xmas caroling fun to be had with THAT little novelty!
“Yeah mom, I know that song, but what IS it?”
“I dont know but I know what mommy’s asking daddy to get her for Xmas
THIS year!”
Tis the season to be…jolly?
… in bed.
Wow everybody really has been making a great effort picking up the slack in DWN’s weekend absence. Great Job team, glad we could pull together and come out strong for the win!
High fives and spankings all around!
* please read as much innuendo into my last post as you wish.
Oh I did, and now need a smoke and a shower.
Wow… Now I feel like I am going to be fired from PK from being absent too much. O_O
Because that’s how it’s supposed to be, dammit! All this talk of socialism, sharing with the less fortunate, lower taxes on the middle class… it’s just UNAMERICAN!
Right! Because when those rich folks spend money, they make sure that none of it EVER ends up in the hands of the poor!! They would rather burn it!
Judging by the way things are going ema, and how the CEOs has been using
their bailouts… I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
Oh yes, because trickle-down economics have always worked so well in the past, right? Those rich guys tend to sock their wealth away in offshore tax shelters anyway. They’ve got their very own “plumbers” to make sure not a dime of that wealth “trickles” anywhere.
Non-wealthy people voting Republican are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.
Why would they do that? Is it because of the high taxes here in the US? I wonder…
No, it’s because there are ANY taxes here in the US, and because they have evasion capabilities that the non-wealthy can’t access. And because they shirk their CIVIC DUTY to pay taxes, a greater burden must fall on the middle and lower classes.
Man, there used to be a time when being a taxpayer carried a measure of pride with it… when citizens were proud to pull their own weight, and shunned those who didn’t. Now it seems like everybody’s perfectly happy to eat the “meal” (use common roads, send their kids to public schools or use taxpayer-funded vouchers); but when the check comes everybody wants to dine & dash.
Now are you really going to try and excuse these rich maggots for leaving the middle class holding the check? Do you like being left with a higher tax burden?
Those poor rich people!
Oh, and this just occurred to me to add… people who don’t pay taxes, aren’t supporting the troops. Tax money pays for military hardware, military healthcare, and of course, the pittance they’re given to support their families. But the Republicans are glad to let the wealthy tax dodgers keep all that money they sock away in offshore tax shelters. Rising tides lift all boats, after all. :-/
I still say if we made it more enticing for them to invest here they would do that. Those offshore tax shelters are now available to the middle class btw. They also protect you from lawsuits and we all know frivolous lawsuits are now rampant.
Therein lies the problem. We dont give them incentives for investing here
We give them more money to whatever they want here. If there was
a way to keep them here AND to not horde their cash, we’d be set.
There is, bring down taxes! They will invest here in our economy, more money in US banks means more loans for businesses and homes, more jobs and more income. A vibrant economy will generate all the tax money we need.
No.. Ema, they wont. Thats the problem. You see tax breaks as
some miraculous answer but its not, and here’s why: You’re assuming
these CEOs have a heart like we do. As I said before, we liberals
are idealistic in believing that diplomacy will work before force of
arms, you conservatives are idealistic in the sense that you think
these rich CEOs and shareholders give a rats ass about anyone else.
They dont, if it were true we wouldnt have half the nation leaning
towards these “socialist” plans laid out by Obama.
If less taxes worked then the economy wouldnt have tanked in the
8 years we’ve had of tax breaks to big corporations. The only people
who have prospered, have been themselves, and they want to keeo
it that way. The bottom line, the line thats been rock bottom since
Reagan, you give most of the rich the chance to keep more money
and they’ll do just that.
How about this solution. Offer tax breaks depending upon workforce.
Have a baseline business tax that all must adhere to, but as yo umake
hire more people, that tax begins to decline. Why? Because you’re
doing what everyone else wants these rich bastards to do, let people
who NEED the money have it through work.
Now Im no expert on business tax law, but I dont see why these
types of stipulations havent been put into effect before. And if they
are in effect now, than we can see that they obviously arent enough
incentive. Which is pretty damned sad.
But, thats the beauty of it, they don’t have to give a rats a$$ about us, they just need to invest their money, here in this country. The more we tax and spend, they more they will squirrel away…
But they’re already outsourcing and keeping everything for
themselves even while we’re borrowing and spending. That argument
falls flat on its face as of September 15th. There’s no evidence
to support the idea that they’ll change. The rugburns on my knees
from the first @ss raping we got hadnt even healed before they
were squandering the bailout.
I just cant work on the blind faith of humanity anymore, I want
PROOF that things will change if we continue our current economic
policies.
The bailout was signed by BOTH parties with all the added pork in tow, and I did not agree with that either…
Neither did I.. unless you think I agree with @ss rapings. And
this isnt about Repubs and Dems, this is about how the rich have
USED them to make more money, and hold onto more. There is
NO evidence to suggest they would do otherwise.
Speaking of pork, didn’t McCain say he’d veto ANY bill that came with earmarks? Why then did he vote for the bailout without even a mention of pork, considering it added an additional $150 BILLION?
I just shook my head and let it go. He knows he is full of it. Hell, from what I am reading from his aides, Palin is going diva on a sinking ship. It is just wow…
earth calling ema, come in ema….
Why aren’t offshore accounts illegal?
First point, and an obvious one, is that US law does not hold any force beyond the borders and territories of the US.
Second point, if we start passing punitive laws restricting the movement of capital, said capital will run as though perdition’s hordes pursued it. This, obviously, would not bode well for us since we want to attract investment, not send it packing.
This is the problem in a nutshell: how do we get affluent Americans (and corporations) to pay their fair share without sending them running for the hills?
I’m betting that Obama has a better answer to this question than McCain does, mostly because Obama at least acknowledges that a problem exists. McCain and his type tend to dismiss the issue by making some grand reference to patriotism. Once he’s got his partisans chanting “USA! USA!” there’s no need for him to actually provide an answer.
just a random thought- but invest it where else now? I mean the whole world is tanking like the titanic- everyone is pulling out of developing countries with even more liberal business tax laws than the US and buying dollars and Yen, cause they are safe now…so um, seriously- in the current circumstances, where else will they go?
“If there was a way to keep them here”-
Wow ! Read my book !
Sup, ayndroid.
Ema, I just really don’t get you or what you stand for AT ALL. Taxes pay for ALL the things citizens enjoy – roads, schools, the military, education, Medicare, Social Security, the post office, farm subsidies. Now what did you say about taxes being too high? And you go back to frivolous lawsuits as a talking point? Who ARE you? Where the heck do you live? I wanna like you, you seem nice and funny, but OMG your rationalizations are just so…obscure? not believable? what?
It’s incongruent to say you champion the middle class and “real” Americans when wearing 3 carat diamond earrings worth more than most of our houses. Why is that so hard for you to get?
I know Im on the opposite side of this argument DW, but cut Ema
some slack. She’s probably thinking the exact same thing about and
she has a right to.
All I can do is try to reason with her, and her with me… and if that doesnt
work Im breaking out the cool whip and velcro gloves… You hear
that Ema?! If you dont concede, Im getting kinky!
Which is exactly why I kept it nice and polite MS….I don’t understand Ema or her politics. I have had nice exchanges with her in the past before EP on every. single. thread. drove me away. And just as Ema has every right to feel the way she does, I still *head desk* and *face palm* when I read these things. It’s like yelling Yellow Pledge Lion! when asked what time it is, it doesn’t make any sense.
If you’re getting kinky, I have 2 1/2 cases of whipped cream in my downstairs fridge. Any takers?
I would think the reasons would be clear *wink wink nudge nudge*
DW, I just don’t think rich = evil, bad. That’s it! I don’t have anything against taxes, just exhorbitant, economy ruining taxes.
I don’t think rich = bad, either. I am in that 10% of wage earners. If my taxes go up $3000 for every $100K I earn, I’m OK with that. I can afford it. It is my duty as an American to take care of my fellow citizens.
Ema, no one is saying rich = evil. We ARE saying that rich OFTEN = greedy. If we’re in a depression, it’s the working classes that need the break. Since tehre are so many more of us, it’s in the best interest of the country to leave the money in the hands of the people that spend the most (as a whole) . Tax breaks for the rich has NOT been creating jobs. In the meantime, more and more hard-working people slip below the poverty line. This isn’t because they have gotten lazy, or have changed their mindset to think they can’t get ahead and so give up, etc. They still need to support their families. That becomes impossible to do properly with the costs of food and healthcare going up. When your kid hasn’t been to the dentist in 5 years and you have to scrape by on ramen and Mac&cheese, even though you’re bringing in $40K there’s a serious problem. Helping rich people isn’t going to solve it.
I was saying rich == bad. I did call them “rich maggots.” Still, I may have been painting with too broad a brush.
I’ll modify my argument to be “tax evaders == bad.”
Still… not that I’m a man of faith, but there was a reason why Jesus said it was “easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.” Rich folk often do less than moral things to keep themselves rich. Just saying.
There ya go with that broad brush again! That’s not true at all. Many of them do but there are many bad and evil poor people as well that do bad things. Interesting side note, the Aramaic word for camel, in the Aramaic script is similar to the word rope. Makes more sense than camel…
PS. Jesus meant clinging to wealth would keep you from heaven, as clinging to any earthly thing would, not actually being rich.
A ‘needle’s eye’ back in the day was an alternate gate into the city. When the main gates were closed at dusk, the only way in was through the heavily guarded ‘eye of the needle’ that was big enough for one person at a time to go through. And your camels wouldn’t fit. It payed to make sure you were inside of the city by nightfall, or you were sleeping on the ground with the threat of raiders taking your stuff.
Ema, my point is that clinging to wealth is keeping these people from doing their share as Americans. That might not keep them from heaven, but it sure pisses me off, and it should piss you off as well.
And sure, many poor or middle-class people make morally questionable decisions as well, but they don’t have the opportunities that rich people do to avoid carrying their share of the load.
This country is going straight into the dustbin of history if we can’t all figure out that we’ve each got a duty to keep it strong. As a great man once said, “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.”
Where’d this soapbox come from? Have I been on this thing all night?
I got to say that I’m with ema on this one. The rich wouldn’t be clinging to their wealth quite as hard if we weren’t threatening every other breath to yank it away. Whether or not it was gainfully obtained or not, people don’t want to give up what they have willingly. If we had more perks for, say, charitable donations, or perks for paying more taxes versus just taking the money in taxes, then the rich would be more likely to willingly do their public patriotic duty and pay more taxes. Or donate more. Or pump money into the economy more.
(and I say perks for taxation knowing that it will get me flamed, but I’m talking about things like making it easier to set up businesses that will emply more people or making it easier to get a return on your money)
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You have to speak to people in terms they understand. You can’t tell a three year old that you’re going to take his candy away from him because it’s bad for him and expect him to really understand it, nor can you tell a rich person that they have too much money, so we are going to tax more of it and not expect them to get mad and hang on to it tighter. You have to finesse the way you speak to them, as if speaking to someone of lower intelligence. Make them think it’s their idea to pay more. Neither candidate has the finesse to pull that off. Sarah Palin might, simply because she was able to do that very thing with the oil companies in Alaska.
I’m not going to coddle grown adults as though they were children. If they can’t understand WHY the right thing to do is the right thing to do, then they deserve to pay some penalties. Of course, it’s easy for me to say that since I have no power to effect the situation, aside from my vote this November.
I’m with N8 here. To say lowering taxes for the super wealthy (or giving them more “perks”) is actually good for Joe the Plumber and our economy just doesn’t jive mathematically. I hope the speaking to them as if they were of lower intelligence is a snark or I just might have to call you an elitist. =)
That kind of mentality will get you killed when someone is trying to steal your car. If you can’t SHOW people why they are wrong versus beating them over the head with your ideas, then you’ll never get through to them. They may be adults who should know better, but the fact is that they DON’T know better, and no amount of you railing against it will change that
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This is coming from someone who is a supervisor in a production plant where I have to figure out the best way to deal with adults who SHOULD understand that when I ask them to do their job, it’s because they need to do the fricking job I hired them to do, but still don’t. You have to speak to people on their own level or they clam up and shut you out. That’s where name-calling and other ways of pissing people off don’t work. You have to make them think it’s their idea, then it’s the best idea in the whole wide world because THEY thought of it, and now you’re able to get 50% taxes from them.
I don’t think you need to speak to them like they are lower intelligence, because they just want to be able to keep the money they worked for (not talking about the CEO’s, I am talking about business people, entrepeneurs) They are very intelligent people on the whole and they should be dealt with like they are partners with the government in caring for the economy. They should be rewarded for handling their cash in ways that benefit the country, create jobs and increase income tax revenues. But if you just say to them, you have to much money, we will take it and do what we think is best, well with those types of independent and individualistic people it doesn’t sit well.
Thats the thing… WE arent threatening to take away their money.
They’re proclaiming thats what we’re trying to do. You nailed it
with the children analogy. I see it like this:
We’re parents giving an allowance to these kids. But now that
they’re older and spending it all on candy, we decide we’re going
to keep 10% of their allowance(which isnt even as much of an
increase as Obama is proposing) and put it towards a car savings
fund(a stable economy). For the first 3 or 4 years the children are
going to complain about how they’re not getting all their money,
yet still SOMEHOW living day to day, comfortably on one less candy bar.
But when that 5th or 6th year rolls around and they have that
new car(a stable working economy), they’ll see that taking that
little bit helped out almost 100 fold in the end.
Thats all that’s happening a tax break is going to get repealed, and corporations will be paying less than they did in taxes under
Reagan… meanwhile the rest of the country flourishes and benfits
and the rich are relatively untouched. This whole “taking money
from the rich and giving it to the poor” is nothing more than
manufacturing fear. Fear that corporations will leave and take
their business elsewhere. Fear that we’ll strangle our economy
by its…. leaves? Because after all, we’re the roots, they’re the branches and leaves that get all the sunlight. You can cut a tree limb again
and again and as long as the roots remain strong, that limb will be
back by next quarter. You STOP trimming the branches and the
first big windstorm (September 15th) will SNAP that tree trunk in
two and more than likely, rip the root system from the soil, killing
the tree.
Ha! If anyone wants to steal my ride, they’re obviously beyond reason. I can hardly fathom the thought process… “Hmm… lexus, lexus, jag…OOH! A 2001 chevy! SCORE!”
Let me retract my statement about treating them as though they are of lower intelligence. I stand by my statement of finding a way to speak to people on their own level so that they see things the same way you do. An intelligent person doesn’t always have common sense, and may not have the same views on the world as you do. Look at this conversation, for example. Ema and I are convinced that our way is right, and n8 and DW are just as convinced that their differing view is right. That doesn’t make either of us bad people, we simply have different views. You have to take that into account when dealing with asking a rich person who may have worked VERY hard to get rich to give up more of their money. I’m all for allowing the rich to pay more into the economy, but we need to quit scaring them off by promising more taxes. That just makes them start hiding their money. THere is a saying that the poor will always be with us. Well, the rich will always be with us, and there is no need to villify them for simply having more money than we do. We just need to find a way to work with them and get them to pay more ON THEIR OWN. Passive coersion works better than just taking it from them.
@ n8: LOL
Yep! It’s the same way some companies do profit sharing with their employees to get better performance. If the employee feels like a partner in the company they will always do better.
Im all for giving tax breaks to the corporations, as long as there’s
clearly stated incentive for the taxes. What we have now is basically
giving them tax breaks with no reason. They dont HAVE to do
anything, they just get a break.
What I propose is to make CLEAR incentive tax breaks. Every
business has a baseline business tax, from there you begin granting
credits and tax breaks for higher employee numbers, higher
payroll, benefits, what have you. That way these corporations
are given the tax cut they want, and given reason to give us the
jobs and money we NEED.
In my eyes its still stupid we have to give them breaks for things
they want and things that we need. Seems to be a bit of double
standard there, but whatever, Im willing to make this work.
That’s the whole ‘not poking the bear’ thing I was talking with minerva about earlier. The corporations have what could be a stranglehold on the economy, and to get them to loose that strangle hold, we have to finesse them a little. It’s like getting your date to give it up on the first date
@frou
I guess what you’re advocating is framing the message in a non-frightening way, which I can get behind. I do think, however, that it’s not asking all that much of the wealthy to pay a few more percentage points in tax than they do. In all, though, I think if we let the Bush cuts expire and then make no more tax cuts favoring the wealthy, then those few percentage points ought to be enough. That is assuming that we drastically cut back the needless military expenditures now being made in the middle east and elsewhere. We also need to put foreign aid on hold for a while, at least until we have things straightened out here at home. I don’t think anyone is advocating seizing the assets of the rich for wholesale redistribution, McCain talking points to the contrary aside.
Perception can become reality, and between Obama and Biden, they have made enough inflamatory statements that they might not have meant exactly like they said them that they’ve managed to scare the piss out of the rich. It’s to the point that even if Obama came up with the Best Plan Ever to fix the country that involved giving everyone money, including the rich, because we have somehow discovered a way to manufacture money in such a way that pays off the national debt, supports everyone who really needs welfare, pays for school for all college students, allows the middle class to get completely out of debt and take home 150% of their checks every month, AND gives the rich tax breaks that will enable them to keep ALL of their money, the rich and those who have been scared by previous statements won’t listen to them. They’ve already shut it out.
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I’m too much of a conservative to ever agree to cutting spending for the military, but most of the other aid that we send out is ludicruis, and Obama’s plan to send over a trillion dollars to Africa is just silly. We have too much going on here to send a corrupt nation more of our money that we don’t have.
Africa’s a continent, not a nation?
But can we just agree that perhaps those rich putzes can AFFORD
to sit down, shut up, and listen to the specifics?
And by the way… no one’s even commented on my tax plan?
Im gearing up for 2012… Id like feedback before I go on my
“Im batshit insane and want to run the country” campaign.
I’m not even advocating cutting military programs or even headcount, just spending on operations. The current tenor of operations is unsustainable without a tax increase, and if the wealthy (overwhelmingly Republican though they are) are unwilling to foot that bill, then it’s gonna fall to you, me, and Joe the Plumber to cover it.
I’m not well informed on this “trillion dollars to Africa” plan. I’ve heard of it once or twice, but only from Conservatives. You seem like an affable sort, though, so could you perhaps post some links, that I may educate myself?
Um. Africa is a continent. There are nations on it.
I have no clue whether this is a right wing site or a left wing site, but my daughter is crying and I don’t have the time to read the entire site to find out
More later!
How much have we spent on Iraq and Afghanistan again?
Yeah, WorldNutDaily is definitely a site of the Right,
highly suspect. I would point out that the article references a senate act, not a campaign promise. Further, the act was as of February, before the full scope of the crisis was known. There’s no doubt in my mind that the brakes will be applied to that act ASAP.
Reading further now, will post more if anything occurs to me. For now, I can’t say there’s anything here to discourage me from voting Obama.
At least there we’re not just throwing money at them. We have a military force in there trying to put in a democracy to help the people better themselves. Teaching them how to fish, if you will. This plan is just giving other nations fish instead of teaching them HOW to fish.
Oh man… only reference in the article is to another Repub hit site, “Accuracy in Media”. And the act “could” result in $XXX billion spending,
nice resort to weasel words… and the figure quoted is over 13 years. Where’d that number come from? This guy must have graduated from the Sarah Palin school of journalism!
@ n8: Obama is a co-sponser of that bill. Is this not a problem? He wants to lock the president in as having to ensure that other nations are not poor, when we can’t even do that here at home!
The bill passed with broad bi-partisan support, and Obama was a co-sponsor along with Hagel, a Republican. This is not Obama acting radically or alone, so no, there’s no problem as far as that goes.
Do I think the legislation needs an emergency review in light of current events? Damn right I do, and I suspect President Obama will, too.
Here’s another article from the WJS that has an admittedly right wing slant, but is still something to think about….
I thought the candy allowance was a really good way to lay this out. I can’t understand why it’s such a hard concept for people. Not to mention that we’re really only talking about letting the bush cuts expire, so they’d just be going back to what they were paying before, at least at first. Why should the people who can afford the most not pay a little bit more. NO ONE is saying make everybody equal. They’d still be rich. They wouldn’t even have to cut back one foie gras.
How is it that those who have everything think it’s ok for these people to shift a heavier burden on the middle class, for whom it really is a BURDEN.
Altogether more credible than WND.
I suspect that Obama’s plan to close loopholes on corporate earnings will be at least moderately successful. I think that it should probably be enough, IF he can get us out of Iraq (or at least scale operations there WAY back.) We’ve spent Trillions there since 2004; getting out would be a huge cost savings. We can’t afford this war anymore!
Anyway, I’m done for tonight. It’s been good sparring with you!
@froufrou. Republicans want to say democrats are all about tax and spend, but at least democrats have the intention of PAYING for their programs this way. In the past few years theis administration has spent more than nay other, with a republican controlled congress. They haven’t paifd for any of it. Republicans have become “borrow and spend” instead, which has been, and will continue to be bad for the fiscal health of this nation. Reagan and Bush 41 did the same thing. It’s why they wound up with deficits. Apparently they fool voters into believing they are more fiscally responsible though, because (supposedly) they don’t raise taxes.
@ n8: Ditto! You’re a worthy adversary, and I suspect a great friend
At least we can keep from delving into the name-calling!
Yeah I know right?…. sexypants!
Wow ! Class envy. The few rich people I know started out poor or middle class and earned it! So punish them for working hard and being successful ? Forcibly take from them and give it to someone else? Take their diamond earrings away and give the money to some third world dictator who will put it in his Swiss bank account and still let his people starve ? Instead of wanting to pull these people down, why not look at how they did it and pull yourself up like they did ? Lastly, under the system you propose, why would anyone want to work hard and be successful if all that would happen is that it all would be taken away? America would become a third world country. Lokk at Japan and Germany after the war- ruined and bankrupt, yet they learned how to copy our system and became wealthy. The Socialist way is to point at successful people and screm “destroy the rich!” and end up with a bankrupt country. The smarter way is to look at the rich and say ” How can I do that ?”.
The rich people I know are rich only because of their daddy, granddaddy, etc.
With great power/wealth comes great responsibility.
If the richest 1% were actually paying there share of taxes (nothing extra- the same % the rest of us pay), instead of hiding it away like little freak show squirrels, we would not have any deficit, and the economy would be fine- but that is an experiment in naivete. In the end my only real world comment would be this- I waited tables for 10 years before getting my PhD and a great job that I make great money at. And when I waited tables- at nice places I made a good 15-20% in tips. But not from rich folks who liked to show it off- the bigger the ring, the smaller the tip- they would be the most demanding, and leave 8=10%- not just to me- ask any waiter you know- if they flaunt it they ain’t sharing it. AS this is my only experience with folks that make mroe the 250K a year, on a personal, financial level- it is how I see the world. RIch folks are not evil. But those that flaunt it are not going to pay their fair share- those that do not flaunt, usually do- but who would know- you cannot tell them apart from you and I.
Bill Gates is rich because of his daddy? Nope- he made his fortune himself. And gives a lot to charity. And if you look at IRS statistics, the top 10% of wage earners in the country pay 70% of the taxes paid in this country- and a large percentage of the bottom quarter pay little or no taxes. Look up Earned Income Credit- if you make below a certain amount, the government actually sends you money and collects no tax at all.
I still wonder how this country existed without any income taxes at all for the first 150 years ? And how can we do it again ?
We also had child and slave labor with shitty rights and even more inequality. Hmmm..
Also, number of people in the world who are Bill Gates: 1… Number of people who aren’t: Everybody else. I lack the brain power to go into the who they stole their ideas from…
Indeed. There are countries out there with 0% tax, so unless US taxes go that far down there will always be offshore accounts for tax evasion.
How would a country benefit from 0% tax? That doesn’t make sense… Also, how can they be earning a return on an investment like that? That seems like a waste to have your money wound up in something like that when it could be here working for you (that is to say if our economy was working)
I would have to say the country benefits by having millions in an
account owned by an American. Money they can lend, and invest in their
own economy… You know… the more I think about it… the more the
CEOs sound like Unamerican terrorists to me.
Oh I’m not sure at all that it works that way, how do they secure your money? What country does this? I will need to look into this closer…
Monaco, as an example, only has income tax on the French and the Americans. All the other income they need is gained from sales taxes and corporate taxes (probably one or two other things too).
But that was when income tax was about 5% and there were no huge government run social systems. I’d much rather give to charity than have someone take it away from me to give to what they consider to be charity.
Tax cuts for the rich help the economy!
Tax cuts for the middle class… that’s class warfare!
Government using citizens money to help citizens: SOCIALISM.
Government using citizens money to bail out corporations that are probably incorporated in Aruba anyway: That’s a sound fiscal policy.
I will never understand why people who are directly helped by social programs actively seek to cut those selfsame programs. Wonder how wound up McCain’s supporters would get if he cut all those Socialist farm subsidies.
Which is less than what Thersa Heinz Kerry spends !
And this information to back this accusation can be found where?
Yep… good thing it’s not 2004, or that might actually carry some weight.
That was part of their appeal in 2004. But I guess being richer than the average bear has taken a turn for the bad when you’re a Republican doing it.
I have no love for the rich, as seen above. I didn’t much care for Kerry, for that matter. That said, what does THK have to do with anything in this election?
Flinging out anything to see what sticks. See also: the McCain campaign.
In my own defense I will say that I voted for bush in 2004. I did NOT like Kerry.
Oh noes! Identity crisis!
Relevance. This post has none.
Shhhh, its all the troll has! You heartless liberals always crushing the lives of those poor conservative trolls! Cant we all just get along?!
You were complaining about what Cindy McCain spent on clothes. I was wondering what the Democrat heiress spent on her clothes? Very relevant, I think.
Relevant four years ago…
But we gave 100 times as much to charity as did Obama and Biden last year !
You and your wife also make a lot more than they do as well. Nice to see you pitching in your fair square…
Oh frack… did I just actually respond to a person posting under a candidate’s name?
Fail on me.
and that’s supposed to be “fair share”
This posting before Ive had my soda is a bad idea…
Don’t you remember the new rules? We don’t respond to people who post under the candidates names. If we ignore them, they’ll go troll elsewhere.
I know… I know… I guess the fail cop in me got the better of myself.
Was this rules change in the newsletter? Why was I not informed!?
Yeah… listen.. about that new rule…. did you get the memo?
Alas, my secretary must have shredded it when I told her she was being let go. I tried to reason with her… told her I’ve even had to cut back the cleaning woman to twice weekly. We’ve all got to make sacrifices, I said. *sigh*
This economic downturn has just been hell…
There will be NO rationalization! A memo is a memo and it’s YOUR responsibility.. sheesh.. how many times do we have to go over this?
But Mr. Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.
On display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard”
It’s like Junior High school- ” We don’t like Sarah this week, so no one talk to her or we’ll make you an outcast too!” Hah !!!
so you’ve never read hitchhikers guide to the galaxy then?
Must not have.. I dont see his towel..
I will make a controversial statement, and that is that I don’t seem to dislike Cindy McCain. Sure, she looks a bit scary, but she can’t help that, can she? It’s mostly genetics.
From what I read, she seems like a decent person. *shrugs*
Thats my issue.. I like her… and I like McCain. But this election has turned all that
around and it was the “liberal media” or any type of brainwashing that did it. It was their own actions and words…
wasnt…
Dammit PK can you make your text boxes at least halfway work? Id like to see what Im typing before it trails off into never-never land.
It bugs me too.
Ditto that.
Yes, EXACTLY. I could not agree with you more.
About the boxes? Or the McCains?
Both, dude. Both.
She also had a stroke, which tends to affect your appearance as well.
I always stay away from the whole “Cindy McCain looks evil” diatribe because Ive always thought she was smoking hot. And to this day, I WOULD be the guy in the news under the headline “McCain’s wife has an affair with younger whippersnapper” in a heartbeat. Mreorw!
I don’t think she looks evil, I think just has something unnatural about her. Like Nicole Kidman. She doesn’t look evil, just something isn’t right there in her forehead. And both women are beautiful. But to me, something just seems off. And Cindy isn’t my type, but I can definitely see where some would find her attractive.
Totally agree. I think Cindy’s sexier than Palin… Cindy is obviously the more powerful and intelligent of the two (damning with faint praise, I know.)
For instance, that whole troopergate mess? Palin went about things in an obvious, bone-headed way. If the guy had crossed Cindy, he would’ve just disappeared one day and never been heard from again. You can see that “don’t cross me” glint in her eye. I can’t be the only guy who finds that to be incredibly hot.
Oh Id cross her….. again… and again… and… oop.. shower time.
This thread made me feel dirty…
I have yet to see ONE photo of this woman where she doesn’t look evil.
Agreed. Scary, scary looking woman.
Have some pity. She has to go home to John McCain every night. You wouldn’t look too chipper, either!
Few women would be chipper to go home to a husband who called them a c*nt in mixed company…
zing!
Now, does it really matter about Sarah’s wardrobe. No, let’s not focus to much on what she is wearing. However, let us focus our attention on making sure she does not get a pay raise. Sarah more than likely has never seen a dress costing more than 30 bucks. So what, I am a shopper that does not mind paying top dollar or low dollar for a pair of pants I like. Yet, we must make sure that we as Obama supporters must make sure that we run up the score, and retire McCain to his many homes, so he can live out his life after public service.
A very good point! In fact, I wouldn’t mind if she took those high-dollar duds back to Alaska and wore them til the buttons fell off. That would be a fine consolation prize. “Sorry. You lose. But we have some nice parting gifts for you!”
hehe…I thought the same thing…but found out that even if she doesn’t win, the wardrobe is going to be donated to charity. One charity in particular lends clothes to women to wear on job interviews. Great concept for a charity, and I think it’s really cool, but showing up in a $5000 suit for a mid-ranged salary job? Hmmm…ummm.
In other news, Palin has said that she will be wearing her own clothes from now on.
Oi, people…just laugh at the lol.
Its ok, at least politics is something worth getting pissy over. You may feel pictures of cats is worth getting upset over, we feel the same way about our country.
I feel the same way… With my hands, in the dark, with strangers.