Damn.. even I could’ve beat the Republicans this year!
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Sadly, he couldn’t have.
I’d love to find whoever chose -him- in ’04 and “shake their hand” (that’s what the kids are calling it these days, correct?)
Although I did like his comments about the difference between “Senator McCain” and “Candidate McCain”.
I sure found myself liking “campaigning for Obama Kerry” a lot more than “sputtering, oh my god you managed to look -worse- than -BUSH- Candidate Kerry”.
^^Registered Dem. ’04 was the one time I was -happy- I couldn’t vote.
Whatever happened to him?
I believe he’s still a Senator and living well on his wife’s income.
Unliike John McCain?
That wasn’t the question, but nice segue just the same. /sarcasm/
Much as it pains me to be at odds with anyone whose screen name includes a form of macaroni, especially since your comments usually seem thoughtful rather than trollish…
Seriously, what is the difference? Kerry and McCain are both U.S. Senators with extremely wealthy heiress wives — correct? They probably both draw a nice tidy paycheck from their own jobs, but I’m sure neither one hates having wifey’s bucks in the bank. I personally would be pleased as punch to have a nice paycheck AND an extremely wealthy spouse.
So, are you saying that you object to the comparison? If so, why?
We (as conservatives) object to the comparison (and I hope I’m not overstepping by answering before eddie gets a chance to) because apparently, in 2004 it wasn’t an issue that the candidate was richer than God and seemed to be an elitist prig. However, now that it’s a Repub candidate, suddenly it makes him an eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiiiiil fat cat with his hand in coffers and who apparently dips from the wifely cookie jar any time he needs some extra mad money.
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I don’t think that Teresa Heinz-Kerry had a pre-nup going in that restricts her husband to getting an allowance from her, but I could be wrong. At least Cindy was smart about it.
I remember hearing and reading quite a few slams against Teresa and her bucks and her funny accent, and quite a few ketchup jokes, but thanks for answering my question.
By the way, I was also interested to read your comments on the stars and bars in another thread.
What can I say, I’m opinionated
Hey look, an humorless picture mocking republicans on a humor website.
Wow, you could post a picture of george bush frowning and a thumbs downc lip art and many of the monkey democrats would clap and laugh (not including you know whos)
Seriously. This isn’t funny, new jokes please. You’re becoming like dane cook.
Oh, now that is just low. Even EP is funnier than Dane Cook. Hell, getting kicked in the nuts is funnier than Dane Cook! And more original.
Somehow I have a hard time beleiving conservatives are ever voting for a person. In other words they vote for an ideaology which republican canidates are forced to adopt. Like how John went back on his immigration speech in SoCal after his campaign heard about what he said. Likewise democrats are swayed by eloquence and a sense of ‘im important to things’ which if the liberal canidate doesnt give then the democrats dont vote.
lol….sadly yes, it is more original, and you were included in my little you know who thing.
I’m a rightwing nutjob and I support this statement
Thanks FF, you said it better then I would have.
I’m sorry for kind of hijacking your reply, Eddie. I hope you’ll forgive me!
Feel free to hijack me anytime!
Oh eddie, you’re so dirty :-p
LOL!!!
Maybe if the Republican candidate even tried to act like he cared about anyone or anything besides himself and his insanely rich supporters.
It was an issue. Trust me. You never had dinner with my Western PA father-in-law. It was an issue.
I’m not, and the comparisons are valid. I’m only indicating that I was answering the question by Bix. You on the other hand chose to bring McCain into the equation, which really wasn’t relevant.
The other difference between THK and CM is that the Heinz empire also includes offshore factories. If I remember correctly, she was also slammed for that.
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Also, my apologies for the name, it goes back to my childhood when kids would make up rhyming names, you know, “Eddie Spaghetti your meatballs are ready.”? Well, my sister like most kids, couldn’t say spaghetti and it always came out eddiepscetti..
No need to apologize. I like spaghetti and all other kinds of macaroni.
Well, I could go with that?
Nah, don’t like it.. I think I still with eddiepscetti..
Awhile back, I remember reading that journalist Calvin Trillin was assigned to write an interview/profile of fashion designer Oscar de la Renta. He agreed, on one condition: That everyone had to refer to him, from that point on, as Calvin of the Trillin.
PS. Oscar actually agreed!
You seem confused as to what macaroni actually is. Macaroni is just one of many types of pasta.
In my neck of the woods (so to speak, although you’d find precious few woods in the part of NJ where I grew up), “macaroni” was the categorical name that my family called spaghetti, linguini, fettucini, cavatelli, ziti, fusilli, rigatoni, etc. etc. etc. etc. Since we customarily ate macaroni twice a week the entire time I lived there, I think I’m pretty familiar with what macaroni actually is (although I may be confused on a fair number of other subjects, I freely admit). “Pasta”, as I use the term, is what people who are not of Italian descent call macaroni, in much the same way as they refer to gravy as “sauce”.
There’s probably a certain amount of variation, as with calling Coca-Cola “soda” vs. “pop”, but that’s the phraseology I use in my little corner of the vocabulary universe. YMMV.
Now then, shall we discuss the many types of Pi [really bad pun]?
The way I prefer to see it, there are only two types of pi(/e).
The first is 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841…
The second is the meat pie.
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The pies of North America are a perversion of the true pie.
He’s still senator, and is currently running for re-election against a hopefull Repubilcan…who doesn’t have a chance. This is Massachusetts, after all.
He does have a long face.
It’s funny, when PK first came up all I saw was like half of his forehead and the top of his hair and I was like, yup, that’s John Kerry. He is an unfortunate looking man.
Umm, no, John, you couldn’t have.
If Kerry was running against McCain it would be the political equivalent of that episode of South Park where Timmy and Jimmy have a fight.
Kerry? Hm. He -maybe- could win due to the economy and such, but he was always a weak candidate. He’s got “war hero” cred, but less than McCain’s, and no real vision to speak of. With Barack and Hillary to fight in the primaries, he would’ve been out of the running shortly after Iowa.
Well, the only place I disagree with you is on the “war hero” cred: I submit that successfully winning battles and being decorated for valor (leaving off the purple hearts he still a bronze and a silver star) trumps being a POW. With all due respect to Mr. McCain’s suffering, of course.
I think you’ll find that McCain has more time in battle then Kerry. Although, I would agree that dropping bombs is not exactly the same as getting up close and personal.
And truly, I really do respect the sacrifice of anyone who puts themselves at risk for the good of our country, regardless of how I may feel about them in other ways.
One doesn’t become a POW without valor. And at least McCain didn’t shoot himself to try and weasel out of his duty. Kerry gets 0 cred.
Yeah, it takes all kinds of valor to get captured.
It takes valor to be in a position to get oneself captured, so yes. Yes it does. 8P
And it takes all kinds of valor to drop bombs from the sky when all your opponents have to defend themselves with are ancient bolt-action rifles. Talk about bravery!!
Well, truthfully the NVA was well equiped with anti-aircraft weapons thanks to the Russians. It wasn’t a bolt action rifle that shot McCain down.
Depends on where the bombs were being dropped, I suppose. Seems like there were a lot of raids on “suspected truck parks” that ended up with random peasants being blown to paste. I dunno… not my war, not my era. I do think that it takes less “valor” to kill with bombs than it does to get up close and personal. Push a button, bomb falls, turn around, go home.
Well, having been around for that particular conflict, I can assure you that had the military actually been running the war instead of the White House, it probably would have gone much differently. But you’re right, dropping bombs is not the same as staring your enemy in the eye.
Though in Kerry’s case he wasn’t staring the enemy in the eye either. Unless a grenade launcher counts for that. It’s like a smaller bomb from a closer distance.
Ok, point made! Still, that’s a lot closer then a SAM.
So, when he landed his boat and took off over land to flank a fortified position that was hurting other boats in his unit, that = “shooting himself”?
so…prison=valor? not victory=valor? i need a conservative for dummies manual….
Not to be flippant, I don’t want to disparage anyone’s war cred, but with Kerry I get the feeling of Major Burns from M*A*S*H and how he got his purple heart. He got shelled. What he didn’t say is that said shell was an egg shell he got stuck in his eye
You know, I never thought of that comparison, but I think you have hit on something there! I think if it was McCain and Kerry running against each other, it would have been interesting from the standpoint of their wives. Otherwise, it would have boring as hell!
No, he couldn’t have beat him. Vietnam vets with millionaire wives are SO not in vogue this year !
Apparently they weren’t in 2004 either..
Now you did it froofrou… Charlie (when he’s done doing Sunday errands for Mrs. Foxtrot) is going to climb all over your case about servicemen and the system for awarding medals. Ask eddie about that argument they had.
That is not one I want to relive anytime soon. But in all fairness, I think CF just misunderstood me.
He’s a little touchy about slighting soldiers for political gain. On the plus side you guys worked things out and now we get great debates out of both of you, so yea for us!
And in that regard, we both came to respect each other! CF is a great guy, I may not always agree with him, but he definitely has my respect.
I promise I’m not trying to slight soldiers! My brother was a soldier, just not during Vietnam or anything. The only reason he didn’t get sent to Iraq during the first one is because they didn’t use a lot of B1 bombers. I’m not slighting soldiers as a whole, simply stating the feeling I get when I look at Kerry. He’s kind of a douche, and that has nothing to do with him being a soldier
I’m only joking. Besides, Charlie has a sweet spot for you, he’d go easy!
I hope so! He’s kind of formidable when he wants to be!
Tell me about it, I still have mental welts.. hehe
We can agree that Kerry is a douche!
Did you see the South Park where they had an election for school mascot and the two mascots running were a sh*t sandwich and giant douche? Good times
Unfortunately South Park comes on at weird times here, so I haven’t actually seen it in ages.
Okay, I haven’t bragged about the fact that I am on South Park yet, so I suppose now is as good a time as any to get it out of the way
You ever see the two episodes with the two nerdy guys? One was when the kids went back in time, I can’t remember what the other one is. Anyway, the blond guy with the glasses and ponytail is me, the fat guy with dark hair is my good friend Mark Pesci who introduced me to Matt and Trey. We worked with them for about a year. MArk spoke at a bunch of weird events they organized, like Lap Dance 2000 at the Sundance festival. I worked for their web design company. They never actually came out and admitted that those characters were us, so maybe I’m imagining things, but the characters appeared a few months after they’d met us, and they look just like us, and they never denied it, either, so I’m sticking with my story 
In bed…
Do you remember the name of the episode? Maybe there’s a copy floating around on YouTube. Anyway, that is very cool!
The first episode was titled ’4th Grade,’ as it was the first episode that the kids were in 4th grade with Mrs. Choksondik. Not sure what the other one was
Name of the episode is called “Cripple Fight”
My name links to the Snopes page about his service record.
Aye, perhaps so. I hadn’t really considered it… I guess because John Kerry didn’t harp on his service even half as much as McCain does. It was an element of Kerry’s story, but not the WHOLE story.
Aw hell. Sorry, n8 here. Trying to make WP be less retarded and got a big ol’ FAIL for my efforts. If only they’d allow two-character logins…
LOL! I choked on my cereal when I read that, Ceefax
I have such a messed up mental image now……thank you ! 
Political Cripple Fight!
Can I just say…..
You guys keep me calm and sane when I’m at work. I want it to be Nov 5th already….the suspense is killing me. I’m really glad I found this site. I know I don’t contribute often, and when I do it’s not the best, but PK makes me happy, and no matter who wins on Tues I’ll still be coming here cause some of us will need cheering up.
BTW: *HUGS FOR EVERYONE*
That’s sweet of you! I was hoping for some world-class gloating, myself, but I guess we should be kind.
(((hugs)))
I’ll be sad when it’s all over. I’ve really enjoyed PK since I found it though, and I’ll definitely be around after 11/5. After Obama is sworn in, there will still be plenty of partisan bickering over the issues of the day… just what a political junkie needs to get through the day!
I’d definitely settle for partisan bickering over issues instead of refuting slears all the time. I am also a politics junkie.
And there will be even more complaints of a liberal bias.
Actually, I’m hoping that after the election, we can start to make fun of Democrats more often. It’s always more fun to tease the people in power
I think it’s a fargone conclusion who will win, but I’m with you, I just want the suspense to be over. I don’t know about the sanity part, but I do get quite a few laughs..
I don’t think Obama’s gonna win this one. He’s not far enough ahead in the polls to overcome the (whatever it’s called – effect where voters say they’re voting for him to not appear racists and then voting McCain) or voters like myself that hang up on pollsters every time they call. McCain’s even ahead in some polls in the battleground states and gaining fast in the ones he’s behind. Obama’s got some serious negative press going against him with the massive voter fraud, so that even if he wins I think it’ll be challenged far worse than the ‘hanging chad’ thing was. Obama needs about a 10 point lead to pull it off and he just doesn’t have it.
Bradley Effect. And I’m in agreement with you. Even this close in, neither candidate has it in the bag, and as badly as everyone wants us to believe it’s over, it won’t be over until the last vote is recounted sometime in December, especially if McCain wins
Obama’s lead this entire time has been puzzling, because if he was the candidate for change and is going to save the world like everyone says, shouldn’t he be really far ahead of the candidate who is old and stogy and has a Barbie as a running mate? There’s something wrong here.
Thanks. Couldn’t for the life of me think of the term today.
I kept thinking “Brady” effect….
but then Florence Henderson would pop into my head and be like “No. Incorrect…”
Thanks for clarifying, I just hope you’re wrong
Ok, but look at Bill Clinton when he ran. That man had negative all over the boards, yet he won for two terms. People have a funny way of discounting the negative press when they step into the booth and have make that decision as to who to vote for. Besides, I didn’t actually say who I thought would win, just that it was a fargone conclusion.
Once was a typo, twice makes me cringe a bit. I think you’re looking for the word “foregone” instead. Sorry, but once an english teacher, always an english teacher.
Thanks! It’s early in the morning here (like 4:00 am) so I’m obviously not in my right mind at the moment. Thanks for clearing that up for me though!
Pretty much everything you’ve written is incorrect, notably the Bradley effect, which most political analysis have discounted in this election.
I don’t know what analysts you listen to, but they sound like ones that have no clue what they’re talking about. I guarantee there’s plenty of folks who don’t answer polls. I’m one of them. To discount the Bradley effect is naive at best when Barack keeps playing the race card to make folks feel guilty. And the polls are the polls. They say what they say. Doesn’t make them right but it’s what they’re saying.
When was the last time he played the race card?
And polls are the polls, especially when they comprehensively indicate that Obama has a 96% chance of winning with 344 electoral votes and 52% popular vote.
Polls have been known to be wrong, and I believe it was Obama after he DIDN’T get the bounce after the acceptance speech who said that polls really don’t mean anything anyway.
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I mean, look at Reagan. He was behind until he won.
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Not that McCain is Reagan, even in ImaginationLand, but the point still stands
Reagan was behind the whole time and then he went on to win 49 states? I mean, I wasn’t alive then, but I have a hard time believing that.
Let me rephrase and say ‘within the margin of error’. Click the name.
That I can see. Oh, and I think Obama’s expected bounce after the acceptance speech was rained on by the Palin pick.
If you’re going to take those polls at face value, you have to do the same with these. If the popular vote back then was so close, then Reagan went on (as you say) to win 49 states, then the same could happen here with McCain. Did you read the entire article? They did a lot of polling of people who said up and down that they would never vote for Reagan, to the tune of 6% only would vote for him. In order for Reagan to have won, 14% or more had to have voted, as shown by immediate exit polls. Then, the next day, the number was back down to 6% because people didn’t want to admit that they voted for him. I believe that’s going to happen here, but I refuse to speculate as to which side will enjoy those ghost voters.
Reagan actually won 49 against Mondale, though, so a different election. But I do see what you are saying about taking polls with a grain of salt and no real way of knowing what will happen. I never really did trust polls in the first place though because it is such a small population sample and it is voluntary. I’ve never really relied on them.
I wouldn’t count on it. You’ve also got to account for the reverse Bradley effect, where whites living in racist areas talk the racist talk but don’t walk the racist walk. Even some of the most bigoted people can see that McCain’s leadership would be a straight-talk express to nowhere. They’ll never admit to it, and they’ll bitterly mourn Obama’s victory, but they’ll pull the lever for him on Tuesday.
I think the Bradley’s are going to cancel out the Non-Bradley’s and we’ll actually get a pretty accurate election
Either way, I’ll be glad when it’s over. I’ve never been very good at the my guy is better than your guy for this reason arguing. I’m too busy and it’s too research intensive. I’ll be happy when we can go back to discussing things based on our opinions of how to make the world a better place without the “Lies!!! Provide citation or be mocked loser!” posts.
But there will always be a place for The Stick and The Wang!
At the same time? I thought it was supposed to be a flogger?
I have seen both implemented at the same time. It’s rare, but it happens.
I believe the condition is called diphallic terata.
I hate to bring up the voter fraud stuff again, but you mentioned it. But new agnle this time okay. The people who have had early voting available to them and have been using the electronic touch screen voting machines have actually been complaining that it has been incorrectly registering their vote for McCain, regardless of who they vote for. So tell me how is that negative press for Obama. As far as ACORN, it’s been discussed in nearly every other comments section on here. I’ll give you the Clif’s Notes version. ACORN is required by law to turn in all voter registration forms they received and have flagged the ones that are suspicious. Voter registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. McCain has also supported ACORN in the past and spoken at their events.
As far as the “hanging chad” stuff. I think it is going to be more of a problem for the McCain camp seeing as how there have already been complaints saying that people who didn’t want to vote for him mysteriously did.
The response to ACORN has made a mountain out of a molehill, much like everything else the right has been trying to stick on Obama recently.
First, the Bradley race was decades ago. Racism isn’t quite as bad now as it was then. Second, there is a reverse Bradley effect, where people won’t admit they are actually voting for a black man. Then there is the fact that plenty of unlikely voters ARE going to vote this election, and mostly they are going to vote for Obama because of race.
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As for ‘massive voter fraud’ you are completely wrong. There is none. There was some minor discrepancies in voter registration, but unless Mickey Mouse shows up at the voting booth, it isn’t vote fraud. And there is FAR more of it from the right, heck, one of yours just got indicted for it.
If I were a elections worker and Mickey Mouse DID show up, I think I’d ask for a break.
Bon jour, froggie homme!
No, Mr. Kerry. You could not, for you are an idiot.
Battle of the boring dudes married to heiresses!
While it might be true, thank god its not. You wooden, horse-faced, black hole of charisma. Its time for another inexperienced senator from illinois (see also Lincoln) to right this ship.
Terrible fail here, metonymy. Apples and oranges. Lincoln atleast knew what needed to be done in the country at the time. Obama is just running because he’s black and thinks he can get the pity vote, which is working because you got a lot of the youth votes going for him because they think it will make America “less racist”. Retarded liberals.
Yes, I pity the candidate who has been talking about the issues instead of the one running nonstop smears and lies.
pity teh foo?
So I worked on the McCain campaign in 2000… remember… back when he had a backbone? Its embarrassing to see the campaign he’s running now after all that talk about campaign ethics.
I’m sad too.
I voted for him in the 2000 primary, even though I live in Florida, which had a late primary that year, and Bush had already clinched.
“Bush had already clinched.” That sounds very wrong.
I am NOT a supporter of Obama, yet I don’t think he is leading because of the pity vote. Truthfully, it’s his communication skills that are probably winning people over. I have serious questions about his policies, but it appear that he is winning over young and old alike. I also believe that McCain’s campaign would have done much better had he not chosen Palin as his running mate.
Don’t forget that he’s got the dead people vote and the imaginary people vote down solid. And the multi-voter vote too.
This would be true if we were discussing Rovian tactics. The republicans have been working on purging eligible voters from the mix as hard as they can. I repeat. Donald Duck will not be allowed to vote on Tuesday, even if, somehow, his application went through.
LOL, it’d be funny if someone wore a Disney suit to a voting site on Tuesday just for kicks.
Wrong. First, McCain was a huge supporter of the NON-PARTISAN group Acorn. He was a keynote speaker. Second, ACORN is required by law to submit all applications, and they appropriately marked the ones that were suspect. Third, that was a voter registration issue. How are any of those fake folks going to show up and vote?
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The real reason this happened is because the Republicans want an excuse to purge the voter rolls of as many new voters as possible, because most newly registered voters are going for Obama. So this whole ACORN thing is actually Republican voter fraud, an effort to illegally purge legal, valid, registered voters from the rolls.
It also helps Obama that his campaign is tight and dems are by and large showing solidarity. In comparison, republicans have been bailing out on the McCain campaign and pointing fingers and there’s a pretty obvious divide between McCain’s group and Palin’s crew. Republicans have been throwing different mud at Obama every week and voters have largely either ignored it or turned against McCain. It was a poor tactic for McCain to take and it obviously backfired on him.
You can bet that if Obama does win, there’s going to be small contigent of Republicans here that are going to be watching every move he makes and ready to pounce on the first misstep. On the other hand, if McCain wins and makes a misstep, I won’t be an apologist for him.
And he will misstep. Everyone does. That small contingent will either have to get over it or ride the waaaaaahmbulance for the next 4-8 years.
No, no.. not the small ones. Hell, everyone has those. I’m talking on a grander scale.
That will probably happen too. One can go through all the recent presidents and point out the major missteps they had. The Bush admin was particularly horrid.
Well, Biden has promised us that there will be a major millitary conflict after Obama takes office, and that they will probably make the wrong move first, but that with the support of the American People they will be able to see the wrong in their ways, get their heads out of their collective butts, and fix what they screwed up.
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Or something like that.
What I took away from Biden’s statement was that he expects the new administration to be tested, and that they would make hard choices that wouldn’t please everybody. The way I see it, that’s just telling it like it is. McCain on the other hand, promises ponies and rainbows. I find Biden’s candor refreshing… it’s nice that he respects us enough to tell us the truth rather than what he thinks we want to hear.
That’s certainly not what I took from it, although do I think that Biden was being completely candid and honest (and that’s not a compliment). But then again, you’re staunchly liberal and I’m staunchly conservative, so I guess we both took what we wanted and ignored the rest
I’m apparently “staunchly liberal” this go ’round, but I prefer to think of myself as an independent. I try to vote for the person I think is the best candidate in any given contest. That can be a Republican, a Democrat, or a third party candidate. I’m hoping that after some wandering in the wilderness, the Republican Party will recover its soul, reclaim itself from the Roves, Cheneys, and Palins, and become a party I could trust with my vote again. At the very least, maybe they’ll come up with some actual ideas instead of just being fear-mongering slander artists.
On that point, we’re a lot alike. I take away from a lot of your statements that you are indeed very liberal. By the same token, I couldn’t count on two hands and two feet the number of times I’ve been called a Repug or any other demeaning name against conservatives. I guess that’s what kind of crap we can expect from being independent, eh?
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The difference between us, of course, is that you’re leaning left this election while I’m going the Libertarian route, while sticking up for a lot of the other conservatives around here. I am dissatisfied with both major campaigns and decided that my vote is better places elsewhere. I’m hoping both sides will be able to step it up next election – or better yet, perhaps the Libertarians will finally make some headway…
It will help a lot to get a better, more credible candidate. Bob Barr? Really?
Just curious, but what issues do you take with him?
The trouble I have with Bob Barr is that he was unimpressive and barely unindicted as a Republican representative, and now that he has apparently joine the Libertarian Party, he believes that we can solve all our problems by stripping the government down to the bare frame and leaving it that way. That only works on a car, and then only if you’re selling it for parts.
Also, it’s been noted that ALL recent presidents have been testted. The first world trade center bombing was in the first or second year of the clinton administration. (9/11 happened the first year of the bush administration… Nothing new. The republicans are keeping consistent with blowing random statements out of proportion.
Biden stated what Lieberman had said two months prior, sexed up slightly. Still, the man suffers chronic foot-in-mouth disease.
I couldn’t even vote for Kerry, he lacked charisma and his entire platform was “Bush sucks”. Thank goodness things are looking better this time around for the dems.
Better? Kerry and Obama ran “Change” platform. Only this time around, the candidate doesn’t trip over his own tongue. Play the Obama drinking game! Everytime you hear him say “Change” take a drink… in about 10 mins you’ll pass out.
Really Obama doesn’t bring anything. While claiming change, he picks a 36 year incumbent Dem for a running mate (Lets change things!). Obama looks to be a puppet. He’s extremely green, and I’m not talking eco-friendly. When in doubt, he voted “present” (The media is spinning this already ‘it meant no’… Then why didn’t he vote ‘no’?).
We have 2 people applying to a job… After reviewing the resumes… I’d have to tell one “Sorry, I’m looking for somebody with more experience.”
(And one thing that makes me laugh every time I hear it… The Dems questioning Palin’s experience… when she has more than Obama.)
I question anyone who reads all the magazines. Do we really want someone in the oval office reading plumpers and over 80 anal?
Only games I heard were Maverick drinking game and Palin Bingo – fill in the line with wink, giggle, maverick, you betcha, joe 6 pack – have a shot
And if I were looking for someone to fill a job I’d like someone who could finish college (with a good grade) , someone who wasn’t too old fo the job, who hadn’t used their father when they were young to get through college and to get in the plane that was shot down after he had already crashed another – no one else gets away with that type of experience in the military. So his EXPERIENCE I don’t need. And if Palin has it she should have at least learned what the first Amendment was all about. She did major in journalism.
“She did major in journalism.”
… And yet can’t seem to wrap her brain around the fact that, prior to the bedding of punditry to journalism, the latter’s fundamental purpose was to be “gotcha”. At it’s best, journalism was used as an unspoken fourth branch of government, used to check the other three.
*throws darts at photo of W.R. Hearst*
Personally, had the GOP picked either Huckabee or Romney I believe Obama would have had the fight of his life in this campaign. I like McCain, but I he just comes across in a way that is not very dynamic. Let’s face it, McCain is his own worst enemy and hasn’t done himself any favors in this campaign.
I actually thought McCain was the best nominee for the reps and Obama was the best nominee for the dems. I was hoping it was going to be 2000 McCain vs. Obama. It would have been a tougher choice for me. I wish McCain hadn’t pandered to the religious right and I wish he had run an honorable campaign. I was really disappointed with what I saw.
I think his age played a major factor in the way he ran his campaign. I’m not saying he’s too old, just that I think he was trying to take the easy way. I would agree with you though, the McCain of 2000 really was a ‘maverick’.
Until he buckled under the Rove SC primary smear and neglected to stand up for his own family. I knew then he would never stand up for mine.
I think Mitt would’ve been a better candidate on the issues, if the electorate could get past his religion. It’s kinda sad that they couldn’t.
Bonus Dethklok lol linked under my name.
/shameless_plug
With all due respect eddie, I think Huckabee would have been ALMOST as bad a as Palin. It wouldn’t have taken him long to show his religious-wing-nut side. He may have solidified the fundies, but that’s about it. There are a lot of people like me that want to keep religion out of politics, like the founding fathers intended.
Yeah, ok, Huckabee can be extreme. But, I wasn’t necesssarily indicating that I like the guy, only that I think the race would have been a lot tighter and that Obama would have had a much harder time. Personally, I like Romney better, but his being a Mormon caused him problems.
And I have to tell McCain “Sorry, I’m looking for someone who talks about the issues instead of running smear campaigns.”
Heh, If you voted only for people who talked about issues (with real world application), and not run spear campaigns… you wouldn’t vote.
Both sides are guilty of this. Obama, and McCain.
I haven’t seen any Obama attack lines targetting McCain’s religion or ethnicity. On the O-show last week, Obama spent the whole time talking about issues and strategies, and didn’t mention McCain at all. Meanwhile all McCain does is try to tear down Obama. I won’t say that Obama has never gone negative, but when he does go negative he goes negative on issues and analysis, never on character.
I remember reading interviews with both candidates not too long ago. When it got to the obligatory question about “what do you think of your opponent?”, McCain’s response was (I’m paraphrasing here) something to the effect of, “I disagree with Barack Obama on X, Y, and Z…”. Obama’s response was something to the effect of, “Senator McCain is a true hero, and I have great respect for him. However, I disagree with him on X, Y, and Z…”
Now, obviously, I’m not disputing anybody’s right to disagree with anybody else — in fact, it seemed to me that the whole purpose of the question was to invite each candidate to point out the flaws in his opponent’s position(s).
However, it did strike me that Obama starting out with a positive statement about McCain came across as the classy thing to do.
Yes, and McCain’s side is far more guilty. The level that his campaign has sunk to is absurd and the voters don’t seem to care for it either.
Haven’t seen any of McCain’s attack ads attacking Obama’s ethnicity or religion. The only time I’ve seen ethnicity or religion brought up about Obama is on some sign a red-neck is holding… and I doubt McCain had anything to do with it. It’s pretty much on par with “McCain… he’s involved with torture!”
I’ve seen plenty of Obama attack ads that target McCain. Calling him “another GW” or “more of the same”… “Voted with GWBush X% of the time…”
McCain has said:
We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House…
[Barack is] a decent person and a person you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States.
Has Obama said “You don’t have to be worried about McCain winning”?
Every phone call from the McCain camp that I’ve received always starts with “Did you know Barack Obama blahblahblah.” Nothing about McCain or where he stands on the issues at all. Just a slam fest against his opponent. Someone in McCain’s campaign even admitted that if they talk about the issues and the economy they’re going to lose. So they’re playing up fear, ignorance, and misunderstanding instead. Stay classy, guys!
So he needs more experience, but you critcise him for picking a running mate with 36 years experience…
Consistency fail?
The truly lovely McCain/Palin team is sure trying to make it appear so.
But no, I like to think that people at least kind of like Obama, more than most could say about you.
Not with some of the inconvenient truths coming out lately about him. And he sticks his foot in his mouth more than Biden (spread the wealth). No wonder the Dems have duct taped his mouth until the election !
You mean they’re hiding him, blocking press access, and turning down interviews? Oh wait, that was Palin…
Smartest move McCain’s team made this election, though.
Obama has such low standards for who will interview him that he even gave an interview to that guy from saved by the bell. There are critiques of Obama that work, but this is not one of them.
OMG PANDERING TO THE TEENYBOPPER CROWD.
If he couldn’t beat Bush, what’re the odds that he could beat McCain?
To the person that mentioned the Bradley Effect:
Did you see Jon Stewart’s interview with Obama? It was hilarious.
I loved that!! Imagine! A President with an intelligent sense of humor!
EPOCH FAIL!
No, not really. He’s way too much of a New Englander stuck up snob tool.
… When he ought to be a Mid-Western hayseed? Californicator? Southern inbred? Ozark cornpone?
Seriously, call the guy a stuck-up snob/tool, but trying to pin on the New England tag as an attempt to denigrate the man is an insult to those of us from the Northeast.
Yeah, Darnity, being from the Northeast is an insult enough! Don’t put them down anymore.
You mean like that other Navy Lieutenant and Senator from New England who had the audacity to run for President…what was his name…?
No, I’m not comparing Kerry directly to Kennedy, despite appearances. I’m just pointing out that it is possible to be from New England and win.
Kennedy was a horrid president, though. I mean, he’s pretty famous, but for a sad enough reason – not that he did anything truly astounding…
Honestly, and this is a guy who voted for him, I don’t think he would have.
*Especially* not if McDumbass hadn’t chosen Failin.
Wow, witty -and- original. That statement there just ends this whole discussion, I’m telling you.
No. No you couldn’t have. You couldn’t beat Bush, failure.
Eeeew he looks EXACTLY like my 9th grade history teacher
I only saw eeew because he was really annoying