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		<title>By: ResLipsedic</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-457732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ResLipsedic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great website, interesting article. Certainly you check here again and write about it to friends Thanks!  “If you cannot work with love but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work.” - Kahlil Gibran]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great website, interesting article. Certainly you check here again and write about it to friends Thanks!  “If you cannot work with love but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work.” &#8211; Kahlil Gibran</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S. Harris</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-225105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric S. Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last words before what?  The FCC shuts the network down?  It gets extorted into toning things down?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last words before what?  The FCC shuts the network down?  It gets extorted into toning things down?</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Air America ( or &quot;Progressive Talk&quot; as you keep calling it ) had been successful wherever it had been tried, then the need for the Fairness Doctrine would have been eliminated.

Saying that Air America is successful while saying that the Fairness Doctrine is necessary is sort of killing your argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Air America ( or &#8220;Progressive Talk&#8221; as you keep calling it ) had been successful wherever it had been tried, then the need for the Fairness Doctrine would have been eliminated.</p>
<p>Saying that Air America is successful while saying that the Fairness Doctrine is necessary is sort of killing your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or... maybe people just don&#039;t want to listen to left wing programming.

Your argument is full of holes as well, simply because Rush Limbaugh, Mike Reagan, Sean Hannity, and all of them are funded by private sources, while, Air America was funded by taxpayers, a never-ending (apparently) source of revenue, and... it... still failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or&#8230; maybe people just don&#8217;t want to listen to left wing programming.</p>
<p>Your argument is full of holes as well, simply because Rush Limbaugh, Mike Reagan, Sean Hannity, and all of them are funded by private sources, while, Air America was funded by taxpayers, a never-ending (apparently) source of revenue, and&#8230; it&#8230; still failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell that to Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Maybe you&#039;ll get your own article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell that to Encyclopedia Dramatica.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;ll get your own article!</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone read 1984? Watch V for Vendetta? The government (especially only one side of the government) controlling the news is scary! What happened to freedom of speech?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone read 1984? Watch V for Vendetta? The government (especially only one side of the government) controlling the news is scary! What happened to freedom of speech?</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just surprised at so many people wanting the &quot;Fairness&quot; Doctrine. First off, I do not condone having the government tell a station what to say. That is really scary. I do not listen to right-sided radio. I can&#039;t stand it at times when my mother does. However, I would not be in favour of censoring them and/or changing the views. I am in favour of getting an AM station for a left-sided point of view if you so choose. You can find a station for them. You don&#039;t have to dismantle an already existing one because their views are not like you&#039;re own. You don&#039;t have to watch/listen to these things. Change the channel. George Carlin once said (I am aware he is a comedian that has passed away but he had a very sharp mind and this is paraphrased) Those dials on the radio (can be for T.V. too) they are to CHANGE the channel. We shouldn&#039;t have one uniform thought. Let us all think the way we want to. That&#039;s what keeps us as individuals. Let us not be swayed by the thought that we should all be &quot;Fair&quot;. Life has never been that way and what should change it now? If you want more left-sided radio stations or even center radio stations, petition or come together and ask for more. Let us not try to bring down the ones that don&#039;t agree with us. We have to work together as different people but in harmony. That is what is so great about us as people. I am sure we all have loved ones that don&#039;t agree with us. I am sure we wouldn&#039;t want to change our loved ones for the world (unless you are in bad relations with them). I hope we can all try to work together from now on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just surprised at so many people wanting the &#8220;Fairness&#8221; Doctrine. First off, I do not condone having the government tell a station what to say. That is really scary. I do not listen to right-sided radio. I can&#8217;t stand it at times when my mother does. However, I would not be in favour of censoring them and/or changing the views. I am in favour of getting an AM station for a left-sided point of view if you so choose. You can find a station for them. You don&#8217;t have to dismantle an already existing one because their views are not like you&#8217;re own. You don&#8217;t have to watch/listen to these things. Change the channel. George Carlin once said (I am aware he is a comedian that has passed away but he had a very sharp mind and this is paraphrased) Those dials on the radio (can be for T.V. too) they are to CHANGE the channel. We shouldn&#8217;t have one uniform thought. Let us all think the way we want to. That&#8217;s what keeps us as individuals. Let us not be swayed by the thought that we should all be &#8220;Fair&#8221;. Life has never been that way and what should change it now? If you want more left-sided radio stations or even center radio stations, petition or come together and ask for more. Let us not try to bring down the ones that don&#8217;t agree with us. We have to work together as different people but in harmony. That is what is so great about us as people. I am sure we all have loved ones that don&#8217;t agree with us. I am sure we wouldn&#8217;t want to change our loved ones for the world (unless you are in bad relations with them). I hope we can all try to work together from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way too long winded. Summing up:

- The Arbitron numbers on the Wikipedia page are averaged over the majority of their programming day (assuming 24-hour stations, thats going to overlap any number of conservative competition). And honestly, if morning schlock jocks are outperforming progressive talk, your argument is on a very shaky foundation.

- Radio stations are businesses. They offer what people want. People apparently want conservative talk. If they didn&#039;t those stations&#039; ratings would drop and they would go out of business. 

- We know your primary theme is imbalance. It&#039;s your assertions on the reason for that imbalance that are under attack, and rightly so -- your assertions require an entity that is in business to make money and increase its market share, to perform in an non-competitive fashion. That&#039;s absurd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too long winded. Summing up:</p>
<p>- The Arbitron numbers on the Wikipedia page are averaged over the majority of their programming day (assuming 24-hour stations, thats going to overlap any number of conservative competition). And honestly, if morning schlock jocks are outperforming progressive talk, your argument is on a very shaky foundation.</p>
<p>- Radio stations are businesses. They offer what people want. People apparently want conservative talk. If they didn&#8217;t those stations&#8217; ratings would drop and they would go out of business. </p>
<p>- We know your primary theme is imbalance. It&#8217;s your assertions on the reason for that imbalance that are under attack, and rightly so &#8212; your assertions require an entity that is in business to make money and increase its market share, to perform in an non-competitive fashion. That&#8217;s absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point, that has been lost in all this, is that you claim progressive talk isn&#039;t on more stations, or enjoys wider distributions, because of a subjective conspiracy theory that you conveniently do not have to prove.

To buttress my argument, that it&#039;s simply not as attractive an option for the majority of radio listeners, I provide data from an objective measuring agency -- Arbitron -- who is in the business of creating ratings based on listenership. I use their measurements of the strongest and most focused (to date) effort to create a progressive talk network: Air America. Since its launch with 100 affiliates, they dropped to 30 something, and have since made it back up to 66, 6 of which came on in the past 6 months.

Now, your thesis is based on this supposed hunger for an alternate progressive talk listening audience. I have demonstrated, in the most impartial way possible (with boring dry numbers), that your thesis simply doesn&#039;t hold water in the real world. Your reaction to that has ranged from equivocation, to making excuses (excuses based on the conspiracy theory you harbor), to simply denying that the numbers mean what they say. 

Numbers don&#039;t lie, Minerva. Your conclusions require something that runs directly counter to human nature. 

I don&#039;t understand it either, TBH. People, for whatever reason, clearly seem to like their newspapers left, their radio right, and their TV a mix of the two. But to continue to maintain that it&#039;s some vast corporate conspiracy is simply ridiculous. 

Let&#039;s take a similar example. For I don&#039;t know how long now, there have been several conspiracy theories circulating that Detroit is suppressing 100mpg technology (the numbers vary, sometimes it&#039;s 300mpg, and so on, sometimes it&#039;s cars that run on water, etc). The theory is that they are in bed with the oil companies. 

However, that doesn&#039;t stand up to even a casual analysis: if any manufacturer had access to internal combustion technology that produced 100mpg in a vehicle that someone wanted to buy, they would corner the goddamn market. It&#039;s just absurd to think that a business with that sort of potential market share would sit on it, and prefer to go out of business. 

I&#039;ve applied this analogy to your radio conspiracy theory, and the same result happens: if there is in fact this enormous unmet demand for progressive talk out there, common sense dictates that a business, in business to make money, is going to fill that need, because that means ratings and that means money. But apparently, even the flagship station of Air America can&#039;t drum up significant market share, in what is arguably the most receptive market in America (possibly next to San Francisco) to progressive programming. 

So how can you continue to deny the facts on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point, that has been lost in all this, is that you claim progressive talk isn&#8217;t on more stations, or enjoys wider distributions, because of a subjective conspiracy theory that you conveniently do not have to prove.</p>
<p>To buttress my argument, that it&#8217;s simply not as attractive an option for the majority of radio listeners, I provide data from an objective measuring agency &#8212; Arbitron &#8212; who is in the business of creating ratings based on listenership. I use their measurements of the strongest and most focused (to date) effort to create a progressive talk network: Air America. Since its launch with 100 affiliates, they dropped to 30 something, and have since made it back up to 66, 6 of which came on in the past 6 months.</p>
<p>Now, your thesis is based on this supposed hunger for an alternate progressive talk listening audience. I have demonstrated, in the most impartial way possible (with boring dry numbers), that your thesis simply doesn&#8217;t hold water in the real world. Your reaction to that has ranged from equivocation, to making excuses (excuses based on the conspiracy theory you harbor), to simply denying that the numbers mean what they say. </p>
<p>Numbers don&#8217;t lie, Minerva. Your conclusions require something that runs directly counter to human nature. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand it either, TBH. People, for whatever reason, clearly seem to like their newspapers left, their radio right, and their TV a mix of the two. But to continue to maintain that it&#8217;s some vast corporate conspiracy is simply ridiculous. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a similar example. For I don&#8217;t know how long now, there have been several conspiracy theories circulating that Detroit is suppressing 100mpg technology (the numbers vary, sometimes it&#8217;s 300mpg, and so on, sometimes it&#8217;s cars that run on water, etc). The theory is that they are in bed with the oil companies. </p>
<p>However, that doesn&#8217;t stand up to even a casual analysis: if any manufacturer had access to internal combustion technology that produced 100mpg in a vehicle that someone wanted to buy, they would corner the goddamn market. It&#8217;s just absurd to think that a business with that sort of potential market share would sit on it, and prefer to go out of business. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve applied this analogy to your radio conspiracy theory, and the same result happens: if there is in fact this enormous unmet demand for progressive talk out there, common sense dictates that a business, in business to make money, is going to fill that need, because that means ratings and that means money. But apparently, even the flagship station of Air America can&#8217;t drum up significant market share, in what is arguably the most receptive market in America (possibly next to San Francisco) to progressive programming. </p>
<p>So how can you continue to deny the facts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, UF, when someone clearly isn&#039;t listening to what is being said, it&#039;s either willful or inherent. I&#039;m inclined to assume the former, because &quot;thick skulled&quot; can also be a conscious decision rather than inherent trait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, UF, when someone clearly isn&#8217;t listening to what is being said, it&#8217;s either willful or inherent. I&#8217;m inclined to assume the former, because &#8220;thick skulled&#8221; can also be a conscious decision rather than inherent trait.</p>
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		<title>By: SpeeD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SpeeD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem not to be listening at all. The other guy is using citations and backing up his argument, whereas you seem to be the one on the defensive. He has statistics, you have anger against the &quot;Right Wing machine.&quot;

The fairness act is a transparent attempt for the government to get their dirty little hands into yet another public domain. 

Others on the site have backed you up. Statistics and facts back up this Xavier person. You&#039;re being silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem not to be listening at all. The other guy is using citations and backing up his argument, whereas you seem to be the one on the defensive. He has statistics, you have anger against the &#8220;Right Wing machine.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fairness act is a transparent attempt for the government to get their dirty little hands into yet another public domain. </p>
<p>Others on the site have backed you up. Statistics and facts back up this Xavier person. You&#8217;re being silly.</p>
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		<title>By: jmed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s win of the presidential election is ironically the best thing for FOX news. Their demographic won&#039;t change the channel for the next four (maybe 8 years).

Sorry if this has already been said, I got impatient around the 300s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s win of the presidential election is ironically the best thing for FOX news. Their demographic won&#8217;t change the channel for the next four (maybe 8 years).</p>
<p>Sorry if this has already been said, I got impatient around the 300s.</p>
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		<title>By: MAD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MAD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have to agree completely with this statement Christine. I live in Sweden (born and raised), and compared to the US I&#039;d say that our current rightwing government looks quite centrist :-)

It seems that people generally just compare a certain program with their own views and then say it&#039;s biased if it&#039;s something they disagree with, I&#039;ve seen people claim &quot;liberal bias&quot; on news that does absolutely nothing but state fact (eg. train crashed - 50 injured) :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree completely with this statement Christine. I live in Sweden (born and raised), and compared to the US I&#8217;d say that our current rightwing government looks quite centrist <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It seems that people generally just compare a certain program with their own views and then say it&#8217;s biased if it&#8217;s something they disagree with, I&#8217;ve seen people claim &#8220;liberal bias&#8221; on news that does absolutely nothing but state fact (eg. train crashed &#8211; 50 injured) <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah christ, sorry for the dup.  Try to post it once and get &quot;Duplicate comment detected&quot;.  This site&#039;s network seems to be a bit fail today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah christ, sorry for the dup.  Try to post it once and get &#8220;Duplicate comment detected&#8221;.  This site&#8217;s network seems to be a bit fail today.</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[243,683 to one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>243,683 to one.<br />
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-73707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[243,000 to one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>243,000 to one.<br />
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To which legitimate questions are you referring?  Certainly not Barbara West&#039;s stab about the ACORN debacle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To which legitimate questions are you referring?  Certainly not Barbara West&#8217;s stab about the ACORN debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds a lot like the &quot;I don&#039;t want Obama spreading around my wealth&quot; reaction that a lot of the middle class republicans I know have.  Regardless of what facts you give them, they also have the right to ignore them.  After all, &quot;ignore&quot; is the basis for &quot;ignorance&quot; and we are all guilty of it to some extent (though some more than others).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a lot like the &#8220;I don&#8217;t want Obama spreading around my wealth&#8221; reaction that a lot of the middle class republicans I know have.  Regardless of what facts you give them, they also have the right to ignore them.  After all, &#8220;ignore&#8221; is the basis for &#8220;ignorance&#8221; and we are all guilty of it to some extent (though some more than others).</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-73418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I meant was, that&#039;s why you seem to have no idea what the word &quot;fact&quot; means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I meant was, that&#8217;s why you seem to have no idea what the word &#8220;fact&#8221; means.</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-73293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, its the only thing I could think of]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, its the only thing I could think of</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, shut-downs are what a civilized debate is all about...although you did characterize it correctly: entertainment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, shut-downs are what a civilized debate is all about&#8230;although you did characterize it correctly: entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooo. &quot;Sir John&quot; admitting he&#039;s an American FAIL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo. &#8220;Sir John&#8221; admitting he&#8217;s an American FAIL</p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was clear on what part disappointed you. The guilt comes from the fact that, because of the prevailing political climate in which I live, 8/10 of my local friends, etc. fall into the right wing category, including my parents. I love my peeps, so mockery, while fun, turns cold quickly, like scrambled eggs. I&#039;ve earned your disappointment, so I&#039;ll take it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was clear on what part disappointed you. The guilt comes from the fact that, because of the prevailing political climate in which I live, 8/10 of my local friends, etc. fall into the right wing category, including my parents. I love my peeps, so mockery, while fun, turns cold quickly, like scrambled eggs. I&#8217;ve earned your disappointment, so I&#8217;ll take it.</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yep, that sums it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, that sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it was funding a boom by opening up near infinite creidit markets while running down manufactory]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was funding a boom by opening up near infinite creidit markets while running down manufactory</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@battlecry  You obviously didn&#039;t read much of what I actually wrote.  nobody said anything about a right.  I used it in the context of &quot;it&#039;s inconsequential, correct?&quot;  The market is supposed to be free, correct?  It&#039;s not if there&#039;s someone who can&#039;t access it.  Put your finger back in your ears, stop taking what people say out of context and sit in your corner drinking koolaid.  you might get less angry that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@battlecry  You obviously didn&#8217;t read much of what I actually wrote.  nobody said anything about a right.  I used it in the context of &#8220;it&#8217;s inconsequential, correct?&#8221;  The market is supposed to be free, correct?  It&#8217;s not if there&#8217;s someone who can&#8217;t access it.  Put your finger back in your ears, stop taking what people say out of context and sit in your corner drinking koolaid.  you might get less angry that way.</p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that. I was totally lost on that one. That poor man! I had no idea about the disease, his story, or any part of it.  As far as the &quot;soviet&quot; business, I looked it up, and found the nickname for it is &quot;the Russian Reversal.&quot; You may already know that. If so, sorry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. I was totally lost on that one. That poor man! I had no idea about the disease, his story, or any part of it.  As far as the &#8220;soviet&#8221; business, I looked it up, and found the nickname for it is &#8220;the Russian Reversal.&#8221; You may already know that. If so, sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very few people actually remember what Reganomics actually was supposed to be.  Ain&#039;t been none &#039;round these parts in nigh on 20 years]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very few people actually remember what Reganomics actually was supposed to be.  Ain&#8217;t been none &#8217;round these parts in nigh on 20 years</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s inconsequential, right? &quot;

Since when does Air America have a RIGHT.  It&#039;s a freakin&#039; BUSINESS.  If it can&#039;t sell airtime, it deserves to fail.  Just like all of these banks and others responsible for the sorry state of economy.

I&#039;m onto a sneaking suspicision that you probably think that Economic Justice is written into the Constitution like that fool Bruce Springsteen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s inconsequential, right? &#8221;</p>
<p>Since when does Air America have a RIGHT.  It&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; BUSINESS.  If it can&#8217;t sell airtime, it deserves to fail.  Just like all of these banks and others responsible for the sorry state of economy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m onto a sneaking suspicision that you probably think that Economic Justice is written into the Constitution like that fool Bruce Springsteen.</p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I just got a surprise. My outdoor furnace/air conditioning unit just permanently borked. The new one is a mere $4100, just before Christmas, two major birthdays and January property tax time--Yippee! One pleasant surprise is that the new unit will be a *lot* more efficient that the old dinosaur. The other pleasant surprise is that it&#039;s not that cold here yet. What are the odds?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I just got a surprise. My outdoor furnace/air conditioning unit just permanently borked. The new one is a mere $4100, just before Christmas, two major birthdays and January property tax time&#8211;Yippee! One pleasant surprise is that the new unit will be a *lot* more efficient that the old dinosaur. The other pleasant surprise is that it&#8217;s not that cold here yet. What are the odds?</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that means what?  Their views are any less unConstitutional?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that means what?  Their views are any less unConstitutional?</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it was a joke, lighten up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was a joke, lighten up.</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[car equals subscription?

FAIL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>car equals subscription?</p>
<p>FAIL</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trade pub and the internet magazine are both run by Michael Harrison, who is about as far leaning to the left as Rupert Murdock is to the right.  
And Business Week?  You mean the Subsidiary of the NY TIMES??!?!?  No slant there whatsoever right?  I&#039;m not Xavier, you can take or leave Wikipedia, but you had damn well pay attention to who you&#039;re taking to.
&quot;The Bible of Talk Radio?&quot;...not much different from the &quot;King of Pop&quot; or &quot;King of all Media&quot;, where perception is reality but not always the truth.

From here on I wish to be referred to as the &quot;Bible of Scuba Diving&quot;.

You discredit yourself by citing all of these supremely left leaning sources and then trying to state that liberal talk shows have mass or mainstream appeal.  If they do its because they do, not because of statistics given by a group of folks with an agenda...all stats can be manipulated and you know it.  You can&#039;t defend a publication that only prints 10 issues a year and yet somehow is heralded by the lapdog publication of a soon to be defunct liberal media giant.

Take a step outside yourself and you&#039;ll see you&#039;ve been played.  And that&#039;s the only way to beat the game.  Because you think you&#039;re fighting with a republican.  But you&#039;re not.  You&#039;re fighting with true conservative that hates the Republicans just as much as the Dems.  I figured out long ago that their constant fighting...by which I mean OUR constant fighting...is what is really leading the country down the tubes.

So your call, you wanna keep dancing, lil puppet or you wanna take a stepback and look at what you&#039;ve been doing all over this page?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trade pub and the internet magazine are both run by Michael Harrison, who is about as far leaning to the left as Rupert Murdock is to the right.<br />
And Business Week?  You mean the Subsidiary of the NY TIMES??!?!?  No slant there whatsoever right?  I&#8217;m not Xavier, you can take or leave Wikipedia, but you had damn well pay attention to who you&#8217;re taking to.<br />
&#8220;The Bible of Talk Radio?&#8221;&#8230;not much different from the &#8220;King of Pop&#8221; or &#8220;King of all Media&#8221;, where perception is reality but not always the truth.</p>
<p>From here on I wish to be referred to as the &#8220;Bible of Scuba Diving&#8221;.</p>
<p>You discredit yourself by citing all of these supremely left leaning sources and then trying to state that liberal talk shows have mass or mainstream appeal.  If they do its because they do, not because of statistics given by a group of folks with an agenda&#8230;all stats can be manipulated and you know it.  You can&#8217;t defend a publication that only prints 10 issues a year and yet somehow is heralded by the lapdog publication of a soon to be defunct liberal media giant.</p>
<p>Take a step outside yourself and you&#8217;ll see you&#8217;ve been played.  And that&#8217;s the only way to beat the game.  Because you think you&#8217;re fighting with a republican.  But you&#8217;re not.  You&#8217;re fighting with true conservative that hates the Republicans just as much as the Dems.  I figured out long ago that their constant fighting&#8230;by which I mean OUR constant fighting&#8230;is what is really leading the country down the tubes.</p>
<p>So your call, you wanna keep dancing, lil puppet or you wanna take a stepback and look at what you&#8217;ve been doing all over this page?</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, that&#039;s why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, I couldn&#039;t hear any of that over the waaahmbulance.  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I couldn&#8217;t hear any of that over the waaahmbulance.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol @ recycling your toilet paper.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol @ recycling your toilet paper.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome.  Simply awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  Simply awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amused jules is amused.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amused jules is amused.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72448</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True enough, but you added it AFTER...your focus was not on the product, but its marketing....are you a PC?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, but you added it AFTER&#8230;your focus was not on the product, but its marketing&#8230;.are you a PC?</p>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dropping in]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am pretty sure that this &quot;control&quot; issue was one reason that the Wall Street Journal sale to Murdoch was upsetting to many- he DOES dip his hand into the editorial boards an similar in many of his newpapers and TV and Radio stations  He is sort of known for it- thus the concern.  One (unconfirmed) item- Clear channel (a very conservative, but also more into money than ideals group), controls over 50% of the radio stations in over 50% of the markets in the US...I avoid all CC stations at all costs- not bc I disagree with them- cause I honestly do, but because that much homogenization is just bad for a democracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure that this &#8220;control&#8221; issue was one reason that the Wall Street Journal sale to Murdoch was upsetting to many- he DOES dip his hand into the editorial boards an similar in many of his newpapers and TV and Radio stations  He is sort of known for it- thus the concern.  One (unconfirmed) item- Clear channel (a very conservative, but also more into money than ideals group), controls over 50% of the radio stations in over 50% of the markets in the US&#8230;I avoid all CC stations at all costs- not bc I disagree with them- cause I honestly do, but because that much homogenization is just bad for a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
		<link>http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/15/political-pictures-any-last-words-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-72335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, having started in 1990, it was around long before Progressive radio really hit the stage.  Nice try attempting to discredit me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, having started in 1990, it was around long before Progressive radio really hit the stage.  Nice try attempting to discredit me.</p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t care about anyones personal feelings of faith, but get nervous when politicians claim to use prayer for decision-making. All too often, politicians making such claims do so to repel counter arguments:
Person X: &quot;I prayed to God, and he told me to vote this way.&quot;
Person Y: &quot;But what about [valid point], [valid point] and [valid point]?&quot;
Person X: &quot;I prayed to God, and he told me to vote this way.&quot;
Religion is important to many people. Truly faithful people should be upset upon learning of crosses being borne for photo ops and sketchy policy decisions. Yet, I&#039;ve never heard a religious leader protest such abuse of religion.  Perhaps the lack of protest is due to the impenetrable nature of such a defense mechanism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about anyones personal feelings of faith, but get nervous when politicians claim to use prayer for decision-making. All too often, politicians making such claims do so to repel counter arguments:<br />
Person X: &#8220;I prayed to God, and he told me to vote this way.&#8221;<br />
Person Y: &#8220;But what about [valid point], [valid point] and [valid point]?&#8221;<br />
Person X: &#8220;I prayed to God, and he told me to vote this way.&#8221;<br />
Religion is important to many people. Truly faithful people should be upset upon learning of crosses being borne for photo ops and sketchy policy decisions. Yet, I&#8217;ve never heard a religious leader protest such abuse of religion.  Perhaps the lack of protest is due to the impenetrable nature of such a defense mechanism.</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, it&#039;s a trade publication.  &quot;TALKERS magazine is the leading trade publication serving the talk radio industry in America. It has been dubbed &quot;The Bible of Talk Radio&quot; by Business Week Magazine. As technology and media trends have evolved, the publication has expanded to serve the cutting edge of the &quot;New Talk Media&quot; which includes talk on the Internet as well as cable television.&quot;

Not to mention, the only thing I cited from them is their compilation of ratings data.  Or are you suggesting they made all that up too?  Since Xavier says wikipedia is a great source, here&#039;s what the beginning of that article says:  &quot;Talkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is &quot;The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media&quot;. In addition to radio, it covers talk shows on broadcast and cable television as well as Internet-only shows and podcasting.

Twice a year, Talkers publishes rankings of the top-rated radio talk shows; these rankings are often quoted in newspapers and other publications. &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, it&#8217;s a trade publication.  &#8220;TALKERS magazine is the leading trade publication serving the talk radio industry in America. It has been dubbed &#8220;The Bible of Talk Radio&#8221; by Business Week Magazine. As technology and media trends have evolved, the publication has expanded to serve the cutting edge of the &#8220;New Talk Media&#8221; which includes talk on the Internet as well as cable television.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to mention, the only thing I cited from them is their compilation of ratings data.  Or are you suggesting they made all that up too?  Since Xavier says wikipedia is a great source, here&#8217;s what the beginning of that article says:  &#8220;Talkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is &#8220;The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media&#8221;. In addition to radio, it covers talk shows on broadcast and cable television as well as Internet-only shows and podcasting.</p>
<p>Twice a year, Talkers publishes rankings of the top-rated radio talk shows; these rankings are often quoted in newspapers and other publications. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Uses it to even out table leg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Uses it to even out table leg</p>
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		<title>By: minerva146</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minerva146]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it came standard in her auto.  Still not the same as a subscription.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it came standard in her auto.  Still not the same as a subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: froofrou</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[froofrou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the same reactions when I hear Obama speak :-) I think it&#039;s a preconceived notion of what we&#039;re going to get from our particular candidates, and since we both have our minds made up, we hear what we want to hear. I can identify Obama as a powerful speaker, but when I hear him, all I get is &quot;wah wah wah wah tax increase wah wah wah wah I know better than you wah wah wah wah wah wah reparations wah wah wah waaaaaaaaah&quot;. Now, I know good and well that&#039;s not what he&#039;s saying, but getting my brain to process what is being said is difficult considering that my predudices against him as a candidate have colored my view of him. Knowing that is allowing me to give him a chance before I pre-judge him, but it&#039;s still something I have to work on :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same reactions when I hear Obama speak <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think it&#8217;s a preconceived notion of what we&#8217;re going to get from our particular candidates, and since we both have our minds made up, we hear what we want to hear. I can identify Obama as a powerful speaker, but when I hear him, all I get is &#8220;wah wah wah wah tax increase wah wah wah wah I know better than you wah wah wah wah wah wah reparations wah wah wah waaaaaaaaah&#8221;. Now, I know good and well that&#8217;s not what he&#8217;s saying, but getting my brain to process what is being said is difficult considering that my predudices against him as a candidate have colored my view of him. Knowing that is allowing me to give him a chance before I pre-judge him, but it&#8217;s still something I have to work on <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rhorho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rhorho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In psychology, that phenomenon is called &quot;projection,&quot; and it makes for fascinating study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In psychology, that phenomenon is called &#8220;projection,&#8221; and it makes for fascinating study.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IN WHAT RESPECT, CHARLIE?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN WHAT RESPECT, CHARLIE?</p>
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		<title>By: BattleCry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BattleCry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couple off things...
Of course there&#039;s a market for liberal radio (progressive?  my ass...marxism is nothing new), otherwise it wouldn&#039;t be gaining ratings.
Also...why would ANY station switch formats if it WASN&#039;T going to be profitable.  You can&#039;t cite &quot;It&#039;s the FATCATS!!  The rich are sabatoging the Air Waves!!&quot;, and then say &quot;THERE&#039;S PROFIT IN THAT THAR AIR AMERICA!!!&quot;  Because fatcats, aside from teh treu belifers!!, dont care about any color or ideology other than green.  If there&#039;s a ton of money in it, it will go.

And &quot;public&quot; things aren&#039;t all that public...how public is PBS if you don&#039;t own a TV?  Or how about the airwaves if you don&#039;t own a radio?  I&#039;m pretty sure the stereotypical homless guy with a shopping cart considers PBS and the airwaves as for &quot;them upper class&quot;.  
And as for TALKERS...here&#039;s all I need to know about that website.  It&#039;s run by a guy named Michael Harrison, and here&#039;s snippet from that site:
&quot;TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison presented this year?s Freedom of Speech Award to Air America talk host Al Franken. &quot;

Fair and Balanced doesn&#039;t work in either direction.
You&#039;re a liberal pushing a website run by a guy that&#039;s a liberal who&#039;s in the business of pushing liberal talk radio.

So, how is the kool aid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple off things&#8230;<br />
Of course there&#8217;s a market for liberal radio (progressive?  my ass&#8230;marxism is nothing new), otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be gaining ratings.<br />
Also&#8230;why would ANY station switch formats if it WASN&#8217;T going to be profitable.  You can&#8217;t cite &#8220;It&#8217;s the FATCATS!!  The rich are sabatoging the Air Waves!!&#8221;, and then say &#8220;THERE&#8217;S PROFIT IN THAT THAR AIR AMERICA!!!&#8221;  Because fatcats, aside from teh treu belifers!!, dont care about any color or ideology other than green.  If there&#8217;s a ton of money in it, it will go.</p>
<p>And &#8220;public&#8221; things aren&#8217;t all that public&#8230;how public is PBS if you don&#8217;t own a TV?  Or how about the airwaves if you don&#8217;t own a radio?  I&#8217;m pretty sure the stereotypical homless guy with a shopping cart considers PBS and the airwaves as for &#8220;them upper class&#8221;.<br />
And as for TALKERS&#8230;here&#8217;s all I need to know about that website.  It&#8217;s run by a guy named Michael Harrison, and here&#8217;s snippet from that site:<br />
&#8220;TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison presented this year?s Freedom of Speech Award to Air America talk host Al Franken. &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair and Balanced doesn&#8217;t work in either direction.<br />
You&#8217;re a liberal pushing a website run by a guy that&#8217;s a liberal who&#8217;s in the business of pushing liberal talk radio.</p>
<p>So, how is the kool aid?</p>
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