Comments on: SH!T SANDWICH

By: SmoggyDwarf

SmoggyDwarf — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:50:13 +0000

Does any body see the screwed up pinky finger (looks broken)

By: acme220

acme220 — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:21:06 +0000

Is that the sandwich the Captain lost earlier?

By: ayerhead

ayerhead — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:16:33 +0000

What is going on with that pinky there?

By: ShadowVenus

ShadowVenus — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:57:34 +0000

As long as they’re house-trained…

By: Seth

Seth — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:42:16 +0000

Not people off the street. Owning class students at an exclusive university. And not all of them would do it. Owning class people tend to have their empathy circuits damaged at an early age. I have a friend who’s a Buddhist monk, goes around to grade schools teaching kids about oppression. Even in third grade, he can spot the owning class kids. They are the ones who argue that oppression is good, right, and necessary. They’ve had it beaten into them that you are either the one wielding the stick, or the one getting beaten, even by age six or seven. You need to kill off your empathy in order to be a good stick wielder. That’s not to say that average working class people wouldn’t do the same thing. Just saying it hasn’t been proven in a scientific experiment.

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:40:32 +0000

rho^2 sweetie, can you not tell right from left or are you holding the doll backwards? The pain is in my right side low in my ribcage.

No lie. I have no idea how, but I seem to have injured an intracostal muscle. So what I want to know is, how did you get my hair to use?

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:37:39 +0000

I think he’s sniffed them

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:35:46 +0000

pretty much… I’d favour an increasing power of e

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:34:43 +0000

Break it down!
English Time!

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:30:47 +0000

MSNBC.com has video of her shows archived, but if your browser has an aggressive ad blocker the video won’t load. You *have* to sit through the web ads if you want to watch.

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:56:34 +0000

I think you’re forgetting Oprah magazine…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:43:56 +0000

You sound surprised…

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:40:05 +0000

Mmm–with grilled onions, too!

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:38:51 +0000

Of course it is…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:35:02 +0000

but less reliable…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:34:32 +0000

Then there’s the dear old Milgram Experiment, where in people off the street would torture someone to death when someone ‘in authority’ tells you to…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:32:12 +0000

you live in TX, the most Darwinian state of the Union. In AZ they’ll kill you for a parking space in shade…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:30:51 +0000

That means you’re a godless leftist…

and at the people complaining about the level and quality of Seht’s info…

Google is your friend, assuming one can pull one’s head from up the ‘I’m a conservative’ sphincter that it seems to be inserted up and use the brain you think your sky fairy gave you to winnow out the bias without introducing your own.

God’s death, but since when did ‘I’m a conservative’ mean that one’s objective critical faculties were surgically removed?

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:26:00 +0000

I’m nice to stay cats… infinitely preferable to people… I’m withffoukes

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:24:55 +0000

???

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:16:42 +0000

How’s that pain…just below your 4th left rib?

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:06:05 +0000

Then con artists are successful because…?

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:29:46 +0000

He must have sneezed once while “digging for gold.”

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:58:38 +0000

“Especially since the original 700 billion (with a ‘B’) became 850 billion (with a ‘B’) overnight with so much pork that if you poke it with a stick it makes an oinking noise.”

And yet, somehow $25B that is virtually guaranteed to save 2.3M jobs is “setting a bad precedent”, as I heard on the news on the way home tonight…*shakes head*

“Now we have the auto industry trying to get a bailout, Fannie and Freddy still sitting there, and now college kids who are in debt up to their ears with student loans asking for the money to be used to forgive their debts. None of this will be a loan. It will be a forgiveness of a debt.”

The auto industry is asking for a bridge loan. It would be repaid. The government is already an owner in FNMA and FHLMC, and has been since the beginning — it would only be giving money to itself. And students can ask for whatever they want until they are blue in the face, at the end of the day they ain’t gettin’ it (I don’t know where you heard that they are).

So, that’s how I can call them “not bailouts”, because they aren’t.

A bailout is when your father gives you $5000 to buy a car because you totaled yours (and didn’t have insurance, fool).

A loan is when your father gives you $5000 to buy a car, and expects it to be repaid. With interest, if possible.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:53:09 +0000

No, in fact, we’ve put out about $135B of it so far. What you (mis)heard is that Paulson is not going to use the money to buy up Troubled Assets (even though those are the first two letters of the program acronym), because no one can figure out what they actually are worth.
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From the outset of this, banks have been able to accept public money in return for preferred stock (meaning, the stock that is made whole first in the event of a failure) in the operation. To date, several banks either have done so, or are finalizing the details necessary to do so.
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This is not limited to failing banks, either — any commercial bank that wants to jump on board can, all they have to do is agree to the conditions set forth. This is the primary reason that American Express was so hot and bothered to become a commercial bank — so that they could take part in this program.
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The idea behind this is to prop up the banks to get them lending again. The theory is that since they are not lending because of the high inherent risk involved (risk as measured in potential losses), an infusion of cash as a backstop for these potential losses will cause the credit markets to unfreeze.
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It hasn’t happened of course — because there is literally no goddamn oversight of all of this distribution, banks have felt free to do whatever they want with the capital (and so far, it’s been sit on the cash, pay executives fat bonuses or buy other banks). But that’s another rant (and incredibly, no one in the public arena seems that bothered by this).

By: PortlandMark

PortlandMark — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:07:00 +0000

Any model that doesn’t take greed into consideration automatically fails, then.

By: PortlandMark

PortlandMark — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:05:54 +0000

Next week. If I’d known Ariana was filling in, I’d have listened in this week. I was afraid they’d get David Bender; if I wanted to listen to Public Radio, I’d just switch over!

Which, in fact, I’ve been doing all this week!

By: froofrou

froofrou — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:33:14 +0000

Except that we aren’t buying preferred stock in ANY bank. Henry Paulson, who has as a proviso in the bill an edict to ‘ensure the financial security of American Citizens’ (paraphrased), has decided that they aren’t going to do what they originally said they were going to do with the money. Instead, they are going to sit on it and see what needs to be done. Now we have the auto industry trying to get a bailout, Fannie and Freddy still sitting there, and now college kids who are in debt up to their ears with student loans asking for the money to be used to forgive their debts. None of this will be a loan. It will be a forgiveness of a debt.
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So how is this not a handout again? Especially since the original 700 billion (with a ‘B’) became 850 billion (with a ‘B’) overnight with so much pork that if you poke it with a stick it makes an oinking noise.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:24:34 +0000

BTW, I would have figured this was self-evident. I guess everyone else who posts here *does* get their information only from talk pundits, because if you and ema think that this is a handout, then you haven’t been paying much attention to the details.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:19:56 +0000

Except, that like I said, it’s not a handout. We (and I think I do me we) are buying preferred stock in these banks. At some point the exit strategy will be exercised, and we (and I do mean we) will sell off our stake in them. It’s happened before — the infamous S&L “bailout” was the same concept. We’re all just acting like this is new and shocking because (respectively) (a) we have short memories and attention spans, and (b) well, the amount can be said to be shocking, I’ll give you that.

The U.S. Government, contrary to popular belief, does not simply *give* tons of cash to private operations (we reserve that for foreign entities and nations). It’s always a loan of one form or another.

Of course, if the company or companies involved subsequently fail and go out of business, then it was just pissing money down the drain…

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:07:41 +0000

When a comment has in that itty bitty space
Pentasyllabics in your face
You get sprung!

By: froofrou

froofrou — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:46:20 +0000

As ema said, the bailout is anti-capitalism. Do you need a definition to understand this concept?? Grant shmant, the bailout is what it is, a hand out that is currently wrecking our economy. Ema made her point. Make yours.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:43:25 +0000

If it were a grant, you might have a point.

By: minerva146

minerva146 — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:59:34 +0000

Have you taken all your meds today, Joe?

By: Tessie

Tessie — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:50:30 +0000

Really amazing. I don’t know what surprises me more, the fact that people will act altruistically, or the fact that the same action (holding out for a fair share) is simultaneously ethical AND expedient.

By: Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:48:01 +0000

“Don’t get me mad !”

By: Joe Biden

Joe Biden — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:46:49 +0000

Nude–against me !!
Muhahahahaha!!!!

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:22:18 +0000

Aha! So the problem is an underregulated straight pin market!

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:21:15 +0000

Coke, hookers and duct tape (see above).

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:18:48 +0000

It’s cheaper in Thailand.

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:14:28 +0000

Damn, Seth.

I’m considering going to Sweden for surgery, just so I can have your babies after that one.

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:13:19 +0000

Gulf Stream. (The ocean current, not the small aircraft.)

By: slanagat

slanagat — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:06:55 +0000

I just want to take this opportunity to say:

DORKNOZZLE.

(When is Rachel Maddow coming back from vacation? Ariana Huffington’s accent drives me up a wall.)

By: rhorho

rhorho — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:42:41 +0000

So “voodoo economics” is redundant?

By: froofrou

froofrou — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:31:06 +0000

Chuck Norris would make Somalia come to him

By: viking gal

viking gal — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:27:48 +0000

Woops. TO Somalia?

By: viking gal

viking gal — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:27:20 +0000

Can we send Chuck Somalia, then?

By: froofrou

froofrou — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:26:00 +0000

*wicky wicky wicky*

By: viking gal

viking gal — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:25:14 +0000

By: viking gal

viking gal — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:18:58 +0000

Nah, I think it needs hydraulic cement!