The Navy votes NO! on Proposition 8
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Now I got “In The Navy” stuck in my head.
yeh me too but, I went to school with Rob Schnider. LOL
Funny, I got “Playin with the boys.” stuck in mine. From some movie.
The movie was “Top Gun.”
You win the big “duh” award. Seeing as the user posted as Tom Cruise, I’m pretty sure they knew that.
OK…So I didn’t notice the poster’s name.
I allow myself one mistake a day and that was it for today.
Y’know how the new iPhone will “listen” to a song on the radio and then do an intertube search for it so you can buy it? I want an iPhone that will listen to the songs in my head and then remove them. That’s worth a few hundred bucks!!!
You = genius
Sony Ericsson W910i can do the same. Maybe other models either.
I would SO pay for that.
While I disagree with the caption, I support whole-heartedly the image… yummy!
Amen!
In front, second from left, tanned with the armband tattoo? /faints
He looks a bit clueless, tho…
lol I like ‘em that way!
By all means! (…as long as they don’t want any explanations, that is.)
Wow, you can narrow it down to just one?
This pic is almost enough to make me get back down the gym – almost. . .
“While I disagree with the caption”
Always strange when people don’t hide their bigotry in the 21st Century. Makes me wonder if they have a copy of The Protocols of Zion and lawn jockey at home…
Why should people hide bigotry? It’s still protected under the First Ammendment.
The first amendment also protects people calling out bigotry when they see it. It may be protected under the first amendment, but it is socially unacceptable in most circles these days. The first amendment does not require that I like what you have to say. It just prohibits the government from suppressing speech.
This distinction needs to be made repeatedly, huh? Thanks, Seth for being the one to do it.
Now hang on…..I’m answering a troll with a troll : )
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It irritates me when people think it’s ok to say inflamatory things, but not ok to protest them, and vice versa. Bigotry, while idiocy in practice, is still a protected right *sigh* Some people (bigots) are just stupid. But that doesn’t mean they always have to hide it.
Personally I think it’s just as well when bigots are open about it. That way one knows whom to be on guard against.
I heard a black comedian say he wished that [white] bigots would wear white hoods, so he wouldn’t have to go to the trouble of finding out who they are the hard way.
That’s why I prefer horses to people.
With horse you don’t have to wait for the talk to identify the stupid ones.
You…prefer horses…to people…
*cough*
Yeah, and maybe we Jews should wear yellow stars again…
Uh, are you sober?
You seem to be confusing oppressed with oppressor. Read it again, slowly.
Maybe he read it backwards, and upside down?
This situation reminds me of Bobcat Goldthwaite’s rant:
“Learn to hate correctly!”
Also, from the Pogo comic:
“Yours is a mistake!”
“So is yours!”
“Yeah, but yours is not the approved, or correct, mistake!”
You are the correct one in this argument. “Hate speech” laws are just the left-wing’s way of imposing limits on the First Amendment rights of those who disgaree with the leftist elite’s points of view.
If one commits an act of assault violence or murders another person, there are already statutes on the books to deal with those crimes, no need for special “hate speech” laws to punish the thought processes behind the crimes. That is just McCarthyism from the left. And in my opinion, Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Barry Goldwater, Generals Douglas MacArthur and George Patton, Ronald Reagan, all the public figures the political left has villified, are heroes who were demonized by the demogogic left-wing as part of their international socialist agenda, which stiill exists today, even after the supposed dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Hate speech and crime laws are not anyone’s idea of imposing limits on the First Amendment. The reason these laws are on the books are due to the facts that these crimes are not just directed at the individual victim.
Take the civil rights movement and the burning of a cross in a black families yard. That is an act not just directed at the family of that house but the entire community to instill the fear that they are not wanted and they shouldn’t have the same rights as the white people and to stop protesting for it. Same applies to a gay bashing.
And before you even mention that the laws only apply to those of the minority. The law states that a crime is based on a perceived prejudice against the victim based on sex, sexual orientation, religion, race or disability. There is another protection that I forget. So if a gay person was to beat you up screaming anti-heterosexual slurs he or she could be arrested and charged with a hate crime.
To simplify and reiterate, hate crimes and speech are not directed at an individual but the group that the individual belongs too.
People (and I want to make absolutely clear that I do NOT mean froo or anybody else here in particular!) should NOT hide bigotry, or stupidity, or hateful attitudes, or attitudes of any kind. They should have them right up front in big, red, glaring, neon letters. Aside from the fact that, yes, people have every right to hold and express their opinions — even opinions that I dislike — I’d rather know what I’m dealing with, be it good, bad, or in-between.
Exactly! I should have read down a bit further before I posted; you said it better than I did!
I agree.. There is nothing quite as awkward and infuriating as meeting someone you click with, think they’re cool and then you go out with them and they suddenly start telling you how they are extremely opposed to something you believe in. It’s a big let down. Plus then you just feel awkward and have to sit there trying to figure a way out of it. Usually I just pretend to faint and get taken away in an ambulance
I agree; having an exciting conversation with someone when suddenly
they burst out with something like “DAMN MEXICANS!” is very unpleasant. No, wait, stop, rapport revoked!
Could you forgive that if it was within a week of the time they were broadsided while driving through a green light by an uninsured Mexican woman who spoke absolutely no english? Because I may have said something like that then, although normally I’m in favor of making it easier for people to immigrate here….
Well, it’s all in context. I have a similar “damn mexican” story. But you know, if you’re having a pleasant conversation about.. say.. LOLcats and out of nowhere it’s “DAMN MEXICANS”, that’s a little uncalled for.
I mean, I have a similar “damn crackers” story too, and I’m white.
You find it strange? But, you’ve seen things we people wouldn’t believe.
Ah, the only decent movie yet made from a Phillip K. Dick story.
I made a decent movie where my dick philldup a hot chick.
Filled up what part of her? Her ear canal? Her nostril? Her bellybutton? I guess what I’m saying is, your dick is really tiny.
Lmao. I love you.
Oh Shut Up!
I’m Bi, I didn’t say that I aggree’d with Prop 8, I’m rather pissed that it passed, I said I disagree with the Caption not the politics behind it.
Need some mustard with that crow?
It really surprises me that the internet has created enough anonymity that people like you can be totally rude without any consequences.
Need some mustard with that crow??? This statement is new to me…
“Eating crow” is an expression similar to “eating humble pie.”
That’s unfortunate. I prefer pie myself.
Your statement was more than a little ambiguous on the point, faetal. You could have meant the caption strictly construed or the sentiment behind it. Given the number of heated debates on Prop 8 and related questions we’ve had here lately, it was not unreasonable to assume you meant the latter rather than the former. Colour me glad we were mistaken. :^)
Faetal, Slanagat makes a great point. You confused him and me (for two), and that happens–to *everyone.* When misunderstandings happen, you can simply clarify what you mean, then it’s all resolved.
There’s no reason to get angry, especially when it can cost you friends. Slanagat is one of the best peeps on here.
Naaah…slan agat is just this guy, see? That rhorho, though, she’s a fabulous babe.
Nope, nuh-uh. Slan agat is one of those adorable guys, made all the more provocative, due to his persistent need to say goodbye… *sniff*
Meh, most of my friends from when I WAS in the Navy were for gay marriage. Of course we were the odd ducks in the Navy so you’re probably right in that most members of the USN would be against it.
Navy vet and I think prop 8 needs to be overturned. Freedom for everyone.
Cheers to that!
Ditto to both statements!
She means to say the Navy isn’t gay.
Although that doesn’t mean that’s what the caption intends (although due to the nature of this site we know they meant the Navy is gay).
Sometimes we don’t think about obvious things… it’s okay, humans have flaws eh? :]
That’s what I got from her post on disagreeing with the caption. It’s been a joke in some parts that if someone looks/is gay that they vote no on prop 8 & being that I’ve heard that, I took the caption that way.
Does that make any sense? I’m at work & I don’t want to be and everyone else is on vacation.
I’m at work too. I don’t want to be here either. I hate this place.
I’m not really clear on how disagreeing with the caption is bigotry. So, if I think I caption is unfunny, I’m a bigot? Hmm.
a caption, bleh
Its amazing to me that if someone has a different point of veiw that they are bigets. So how are you opened minded and tolerant if you call someone a biget for disagreeing with your opinion? Learn to tolerate us, we obviously put up with you
So you are saying we have to tolerate intolerance? That is the kind of argument a third grader would make. Not everything deserves tolerance. Like kicking puppies. Am I a bigot if I don’t tolerate puppy kicking? Having a different point of view does not make you a bigot. Calling someone a bigot also does not make you a bigot. Hating gay people makes you a bigot, just like hating blacks, Mexicans, or Catholics makes you bigot.
I am intolerant of your intolerance to those who are intolerant.
All jesting aside, I will say this. I am a bigot towards bigots and damn proud of the fact. Thank you and good night.
I am intolerant of your intolerance to his intolerance of those who are intolerant.
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Anybody have the news on, btw?
The news referring to the Mumbai situation? Yikes.
Couldn’t have said it better.
Eighty killed and over nine hundred hospitalized so far in coordinated terrorist attacks against luxury hotels, a restaurant, and a train station. Terrorists looking specifically for westerners to hold hostage. Some previously unknown group, calling themselves the “Deccan Mujahideen.” That’s all I’ve heard so far.
Happy Thanksgiving…
Why look in Mumbai? Seems they could find a whole lot more of us, erm, in the actual “West”…not trying to make light of it, of course, but that rationale doesn’t make a lot of sense. :\
Day late & a kopeck short here. Hey Seth, tryin to find you.
I hooked up to yr Evolution site but cant seem to lv a msg
there. D’OH am reetarddid.
OH NOES not another Terrorist gp! L.U.P. (Let Us Pray!)
Connect w. me via ICHC profiles if U wish. My spouse & I has
been working on similar stuff to you thru Skeptics Soc.
i don’t remember what the caption said…i’m still distracted
There was a caption??
I totally agree….*drools*
Took me a few mins to even look at the caption
lol!
Word. I realize this isn’t ICHC, but I saw this pic and all I thought was “I can has?”
wow narrow minded people do still exist!
My dad was in the Navy. He looks nothing like that, and has a wife and 3 kids (me included)
looks like he didnt tell u everything about his youth
lol@defensive/overly serious comment
not everyone who didn’t support prop 8 is gay…
I guess you’re glad was one of the homelier straight guys, yes? ; )
^he
Second from left front row looks like a slightly shorter version of my hubby *yum*
Uh, froo? Uh, how ya feeling? I mean, how’s your HEALTH? Do you smoke? Crack? What are your hobbies? Do you like to play chicken with trains? Have you gotten away from the house lately? Aren’t you due for a vacation, like a LONG vacation???
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*pant, pant, pant*
LOL
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The guys’ a little more muscular than hubby, but it’s pretty close! Hubby is about 3-4 inches taller than this guy, too. But the overall effect is the same
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I think I need to go home now………. ; )
Indeed, you do. BTW, if you see a car peeling out of the driveway, it’s not mine, OKAY??? ; )
one could only assume that prop 8 is a clothing requirement….? Either that or there was a missing uniform shipment…. (had to fit one in there somehow) …… either way im hard put to believe they are actually sailors
Here’s the first link I could find that summed it up.
Prop 8 knowledge FAIL!
lol – not everyone in the world knows about USA marriage rules and regulations?
But…but…*sputters* Don’t you realize that Amurka is the greatest country that ever, or will ever, exist??
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We probably need to invade your country for your own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness (within conservative Christian bounds, of course).
Whatever you do, Pundy, don’t say the name of your country! Confoozled is serious!!! ; )
WIN!
But then again, I’m very knowledgeable about/engaged in US politics. On the other hand, if you’re on this site, you probably are too? 
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Oh, and as far as Sandi goes; I’m a 16 year old Swedish girl, and I know what Prop 8 is.
Sweden? Cool. I was going to make a comment about toblerone, before I realised that was the wrong country entirely. EuropeanChocolateFail.
Haha or maybe you just like to see Americans making fun of their politics.
Honestly, I probably wouldn’t have known what prop 8 was if a friend of mine hadn’t told me that if AZ passed prop 102 (basically the same thing as prop 8) he was moving to CA, and if CA passed prop 8 he was defecting to Canada. I have alternating periods where I try to stay away from the news and politics and get really into them.. Mostly politics and the news depress me so I don’t pay attention to them.
Case in point.. Finding out Prop 8 and Prop 102 passed.. Made me feel sick to my stomach and very depressed.
Stupid smiley encoding.. that should say “(basically the same thing as prop 8 )”. Though Prop Smiley With Sunglasses On is pretty catchy. Perhaps we can tuck that one away for later use.
LMAO!! New (bad) movie: When Smileys Attack!
That’s not a movie, that’s a sweeps week special on Fox!
After School Special
After School Special
Hehe – I know about it too but just saying that not everyone is that informed nor should we expect them all to be
Sigh – original reply has vanished into the ether…
Is Confoozled invading our little slice of the internet already?
Or just the conservative Christian parts?
We have just been through the legalise same sex marriages arguments
There are much more earth shattering things going on but if
ourselves so prop 8 was publicised here too. However, if we hadn’t
been through it too, I doubt I would have taken that much interest in
this
you are only 16, prob shouldn’t divulge too much about those
I am sure it was a “scientific” poll.
I don’t know if it was scientific, but it was greased.
they used probes
That’s a hearty batch of seamen semen…
Whatever
Long.. hard.. and full of seamen. LOL
y hello thar boat full of hot menfolk
Meet your new admiral~<3
Seaman, your gun is poking me in the beehind. … Thank you.
heheheh… i like you.
I got dibs on the second one from the left, front row.
Please to share teh sexy?
If there’s any left over, I’m more than willing to share. It’s unlikely, but still, you’ll be next.
The mouth breather? No way. “Penny for your thoughts” and all you get for your penny is “Uhhhh….Ummmm….Uhhhh….” (kidding)
Of course, when you are head over heels none of that matters.
(Hell, I’d even be happy to just be heels over head right now)
I like youthful short second from the right better, reddish hair… sigh
they aren’t suppose to TALK! and with what I have in mind if he’s still nose breathing we have problems!
But you HAVE to breathe through your nose, or else you’ll suffocate!
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Or… uh… so I’ve heard.
/snort
LOL!
I just totally blew soda all over myself.
/fail lol
Faetal & Tessie, you are hilarious!
Lol
Blew.
Ok, but I want the guy who’s first on the left, front row. Damn.
Willing to share?
I’m a sharing kind of chick, so yes!
(PK ate my first reply so excuse any doubling of this one…)
Seem to be a lot of “sharing” ladies on this site. Big difference from the ladies *I’ve* been meeting irl.
Clearly you’ve been hanging out with the wrong ladies. Or I guess rather you’ve been hanging out with the “good girls”. That would be the problem, I think.
I’m trying this ONE more time….PK keeps eating it!
Absolutely, viking gal — I bet there’s enough to go around there, he looks like he’d have stamina.
I will bring the video camera. Then we will have video evidence of us supporting our troops. HEHEHEHEHEHE
Hmm, I think I’ll take numbers 3 and 4 from the left on the back row. I had to “favorite” this one!
Don’ noes wha’ properzissun deyz against, but da seeneery iz berry, BERRY nice!
Okay, I’m usually pretty good at translating LOLspeak, but this one gave me some trouble.
“Don’t know what proposition they against, but the scenery is very, very nice!”
Pretty easy one, in fact.
Thanks! I did get it eventually, but it took me a minute. I think it’s because I’m so tired today–I almost passed out in the hallway earlier. Tomorrow starts Thanksgiving break, though, so hopefully I’ll be able to catch up on my sleep and be more coherent. ; )
Don’ noez wha’ properz’sun deyz agains’, but the seenorree iz berry, BERRY nice!
Double post FAIL!
Also, Prop 8 knowledge FAIL!
The fail is on PK, not syron9. PK has been eating posts lately, and spitting them out later, or not at all.
That’s okay, we can transfer the double post fail to excessive lolspeak in a non lolspeak zone fail. Max darling, where is the failcop when we need him? As to that, where’s Max been anyway?
In the absence of Max, we can allow a little lattitude here, yes? I’m with you on the lolspeak, mainly because it takes three posts, minimum:
1. Original lol post.
2. Request for translation.
3. Translation provided.
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I’m guilty of the occasional “I can has,” but have never been blessed with a Silver Hammering. In a way, I feel left out. *sniff*
I’m sorry, all I read was “Silver Hammering” and then proceeded to some dirty, dirty thoughts. *sigh* ; )
Yeah, I was riding that wave when I wrote it. : D
We’re missing quite a few regulars lately, aren’t we?
Go Navy.
C’mere, Navy!
Roll over! That’s a goooood Navy! Yes hims is! Yes hims is!
prop 8 or not..they are hot
Actually, I’m inclined to think they are marines, aside from the haircut, first due to the fact that I you would be very hard pressed to find that many sailors in such good shape on an entire carrier, and secondly due to the black shorts which is a marine recon thing. Either way its still a hilariously absurd photograph.
i’m inclined to agree with you. i might be projecting but that looks like the marine base of coronado. Also hanging about marine bases while they’re training the newbies makes for some fun summers
Actually Coronado is a Navy base it is where they train Navy Seals Coronado has two military bases: Naval Air Station North Island and Naval Amphibious Base Coronado. So they are more than likely Seals or BUDs
oh, well now i’ve learned something. i apologize for being stupid on the net
*dusts off stupid chair next to her own*
they are navy seals, as a former marine that served with them. I hope for your sake none of them take offense to this…
Ooooh, hot sweaty muscle-y men wrestling?!?!?!! ‘Scuse me while I grap my popcorn. *drools*
how does one “grap”? Brings to mind some rather… unsightly images…
Let’s hope it doesn’t involve a grappling hook. First thing, she’ll spill the popcorn…
This is pretty unrelated, but in D&D, I have had a situation that involved a tug of war over a party member between an alligator’s teeth in his arm and my grappling hook in his….um……yeah.
But yeah, in the event I get lit up in my next deployment and I’m down in the enemy’s kill zone and all my squadmates have is a hooligan tool (which can be made into a makeshift grappling hook) and 550 cord (makeshift rope)….
START TUGGING!!!
Damn. We lose more clerics that way. More arms, too.
I played that game once, years ago. It took upwards of two hours to get me prepared to be a half-dwarf thief. I was killed 5 minutes into the game, and never felt the need to play again. The master was a control freak, imho, and had trouble with “girlfriends,” possibly because he never had one.
That said, I would prefer tugging you in more of a wrap around belt scenario. The other way sounds a tad painful…
or maybe it was half-elf…
I was hoping you’d prefer tugging me in more of an unwrap the belt scenario. Le sigh……
I have a long and somewhat checquered gaming history. The best friend from college and my daughter’s godmother who passed away recently, whom I’ve mentioned in a few posts on gay marriage? Ran what I have reason to believe was the oldest continuously running role playing game in existence. I was in it for 21 years and it had well established history before I got involved – it was loosely Star Wars based and she started running it before Return of the Jedi was released. She ran it with a nice mix of action and character development, so it was a real exercise in creative cooperative storytelling.
LOL–belt. “Le sigh…” — Is that a la Pepe le Pieu?
It sounds like you have had a great experience with RP gaming, and that game sounds like it would be a lot more fun than D&D, too. From what I’ve gathered, the game is only as fun as the players.
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Did I just stumble across a truism?
That you did. The game is only as fun as the ones running it and playing it.
That truism extends far beyond gaming, rho sweetie.
I quit doing role-playing games when I realized they were interfering with my ability to gain carnal knowledge of all the little hotties at my school. I won’t say I don’t miss it now and then, but it was the best decision I’ve ever made!
Hehehe, you said ‘carnal knowledge’
You have my pity. I got have both since I let Lynn get curious about the game by letting her watch and not pressuring. I felt like a stranger in a van full of candy. My victims just come to me. ^_^
You were deprived of the joy of knowing hotties who game?
My heart goes out to you, man.
Please forgive me. I was a little distracted by all the beautiful manliness. Meant to say “grab.”
LOL. Thinly veiled threats of violence from people who turn right around and claim to be protecting Americans from terrorism.
Patriotism fail, kid.
I’m not unAmerican, but have developed an opinion about this. Some of these guys get off to feeling all powerful and macho, etc., but they also *volunteer* for service. I would rather abide an occasional full-of-himself type than to see my nephews drafted. Does that make sense?
I’m not following you at all.
Feeling all powerful and macho and volunteering for military service = very good thing. I’m all for it, and obviously grateful to those who do it.
Attacking Americans while standing inside a U.S. Military uniform (or standing behind claims to have been in the military) = Unpatriotic in the extreme.
The latter is sadly all too common today, thanks largely to anti-American right-wing talk radio.
Because right wing talk radio is the source of all of our problems.
A BREAKTHROUGH!! YAY!!
*rolled eyes so hard she passed out on the floor*
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*can’t answer rho’s post because of this*
*looks at place on floor where froo was before the stretcher came*
*feels jealous because one of those EMT guys was HAWTT*
*misses froo, and feels sorry for ZINGing her sarcy friend*
To be honest, any type of anti-American talk radio is bad, whether it’s right wing or left wing. Michael Medved and Al Franken spring to mind as illustrations of the two ends of the spectrum. Anti-American doesn’t apply to most of it. Now, if you want to go through the laundry list of anti-Dem and anti-Repub, then you’ve got something : )
I don’t get much left-wing radio (for reasons already covered ad nauseum), but I hear right-wing shock jocks calling people on the other side all sorts of hateful names, and making all kinds of terrible, baseless allegations. From what I’ve heard, the right-wing shock jocks tend to take a self-righteous (pun) attitude, whereas the left-wing talkers tend to go the conspiracy theory route. The right-wing guys are much more likely than the left to single someone out for attack, encourage mean spiritedness, and “pump up” the lesser angels listening. The situation may change with the administration, but left-wing guys, at their worst, tend to take a whinier, “poor us” approach. Inciting hatred? I would say the right-wing has that one PWNd.
I think your take on right wing radio comes from your left wing stance. The shows I listen to tend not to delve into name-calling, other than illustrating names that ‘the other side’ has called their own people. They do get self-righteous, I’ll give you that, lol. And as far as singling people out for attacks and encouraging mean-spiritedness, what do you mean? I promise I’m not being naive here, I’m really curious. That’s not what I hear at all, unless the only right-wing talkers you’re listening to are Medved and O’Reilly. Medved is an equal-oportunity impailer, and O’Reilly is over the top more often than not. I’m not seeing anyone but Medved inciting hatred.
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And I’m glad that you can see the whining that I see on the left. I hope it does change with the new administration, but what I see happening is that the Left (capital L) will start in on the sanctimonious crap while the Right goes for the self-pity.
My statement was more about my general impression of right-wing vs. left-wing radio. The worst right-winger of all is Ann Coulter, but I would never ask you or anyone to defend the likes of her! Radio-wise, it seems like I’m driving a lot during Glenn Beck’s and Rush Limbaugh’s shows. I’ve heard other right-wingers, but usually wind up changing the station before catching the host’s name. (Motivation would be an issue there, too.) I know I’ve heard (Michael?) Medved. Doesn’t he fill in for Limbaugh from time to time? (If not lately, I think he used to.) The only left-wing stuff I can get in town is NPR, which carries neutral stuff most of the times I hear it. I wish I could quote things that I’ve heard Limbaugh say, but, for me, the worst ones are best forgotten, and quickly. I’m sure others can quote most of his famous flamings verbatim, but I can’t. The most recent ones were ad hominem attacks against Obama/Biden, of course, with Hillary Clinton before that. I remember being totally pissed about the disinformation he spewed about global warming, but, again, I can’t quote him. I have heard of his recent accusation that Obama is responsible for the shape the economy is in, but I didn’t hear his rant in context, so that’s not fair. As for other disinformation spewage, weren’t you the one who was worried about the brown shirt brigades? Whoever that was, those “reports” never made the MSMedia, so I figured one of the radio guys was the culprit.
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“The shows I listen to tend not to delve into name-calling, other than illustrating names that ‘the other side’ has called their own people.”
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The GOP (and right-wing talkers) had a wealth of material to use against the DEMs this time, because the DEM race was so hotly contested. The DEMs didn’t have squat, relatively speaking: Palin wasn’t on record having said anything against John McCain, and Huckabee and Romney were pretty slim pickings, too. I was surprised that McCain didn’t quote Clinton and Biden much more than he did, but there were backfire issues to consider, certainly. (OT, but I wonder if McCain and Obama had a phone call at some point, deciding to trade Rev. Wright for Keating Five.)
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Yeah, I’ll say it: There are faults on both sides. Perhaps I’m not standing with my back flattened against the left side wall, after all. …NAH!! ; ) I think your idea that they may switch roles is fun. We can hide and watch until then.
Being honestly curious here – what would be defined as “anti-American” in American talk radio?
For some, it would be defined as saying anything bad about the current administration, its plans, or its decisions. For some, saying “The Iraq war was a bad idea” translates to “OMG I HATE THE TROOPS!” For some, saying “Bush’s policies are awful” translates to “OMG I HATE AMERICA AND ITS FREEDOMZ!!!”
froo, it’s obvious to me you never listened to Al’s show. He was funny, intelligent, and informative, and reserved his vitriol for the worst offenders on the right: O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush. He even had a self professed DittoHead on almost every day to explain why Rush’s latest lie was in fact not a lie. (That was always one of my favorite segments! )
My rant is long on this one, but radio monopolies have my utmost ire. I will have to pay for radio I want to hear, because my air space is climate con*troll*ed. If you didn’t know it, you are lucky to be able to hear Al (I assume) for free.
Better yet, I’m in the home town of my absolute favorite talker: the intelligent and informative Thom Hartmann!
For those who don’t know him, I’m sorry. I hope you are lucky to get him on a local station soon.
Actually, I’d say he and Rachel Maddow are my two favorite talkers.
To be fair, Rush and Hannity have front row seating for Libs every day to explain why it’s alright to be a Lib. Levity for me : )
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This is all coming from our different POV’s. I see Al as whiny and idiotic, you see Rush as angry and vitreolic. Ann Coulter we can agree on, although I really think most of it is in jest (doesn’t make it right), and O’Reilly and Medved can go play pitty pat together. : )
I see what you mean. The guy isn’t worthy of his uniform (imaginary or otherwise) because of his snarling disdain for those practicing the very freedoms he feels he is protecting. If he is telling the truth and keeps up his crappy attitude, someone else (probably another vet) will eventually kick it out of him. Either that, or he’ll go through troubled relationships, etc., for the rest of his days. He may feel patriotic, but may simply lack the understanding of the deeper meaning of it. That may come with age.
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Maybe it’s the difference in our experience, because, as a female, I’m not directly faced with the roostery stuff. However, perhaps that’s why I may be better able to see it for what it is. My thinking is, “Okay, so he’s an arsehole. At least he’s the one taking the bullet instead of my loved one.” That’s selfish of me, but it’s honest.
I think a better way of expressing rorho’s point: Some join the military to defend their nation, some join it for job training, some join for college money. Some, however, join because they’re thugs and they want nothing more than a way to get away with their violent behavior.
Not exactly where I was trying to go, but it’s a great boil-down, on its own.
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(I wrote this response once already, but it refuses to appear. So if it ends up being double, I apologise.)
It does make sense, yes, but I tend to see it the other way around – the guys who really want/crave/lust for running around with big guns and feeling macho about that are exactly the type of guy in whose hands I don’t want my society to be sticking said big guns.
So yeah, it does boil down to a nice little catch-22 in my head – the only people I see suitable for military powers are the ones who really don’t want it.
I refuse to join any club that would take me as a member. (Groucho Marx)
One of my favorite lines, ever!
Imperialism is the worst thing I ever hoid. (Groucho’s older brother Karl)
*Applause, all the more thunderous for having been held until the end*
They all look like they need a good massage.
Actually, they are Navy divers.
The only easy day was yesterday, dammit.
Divers? Even better!
Now to sound like an even bigger dork…
In one of the random roleplaying groups I got into in college, the group we worked was called the Mutant Underground Freedom Fighters. We all snickered like kids and asked if we could all be divers for MUFF.
*waits to be laughed off the stage*
Ah, I think I’ll have to retract my previous statement. I believe crmain is correct. Marine recon do wear black shorts but they are silkies, which are shorter… and they would all be wearing them,as opposed to a more hodge podge collection of black shorts. And no, I’m not suggesting that smaller shorter black shorts are better. And that explains the fact that they are in shape.
haha, that’s -hot-
The Lol Fairness Doctrine of ’08 demands that we get a pic of several hot chicks within the next five lols. And no, Sarah Palin does not count. Do not even think of posting a Palin/Malkin/Coulter three way, as this is grounds for immediate ejection from the Internet.
Ejection while on fire at that…
Ejection while on fire into a field of broken glass, razor wire, and salt.
To be followed by a dousing in lemon juice.
And mentholated tabasco.
…that is also on fire.
While the audio plays a continuous loop of “Hotel California”.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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*runs away*
(small voice) Malkin, Coulter, and Palin? Oh, no, I had never thought of that combo before… now I can’t stop thinking about it
Excellent. My day just isn’t complete until I’ve inflicted mental anguish on at least one person.
You took Craft Disturbing Mental Image as your feat last time you levelled up, didn’t you?
Nope, got it as a class feature. You get it with the first level of the “Evil Bastard” prestige class.
When you get to level 3, you get Improved Craft Disturbing Image. I hear level 10 has the power called Mind F*cker.
Damn. Do you have to rogue/bard multiclass to get that?
My tears are bloody.
Carried on the backs of zombie wombats.
Naval Salute!
that makes my tongue hard.
o – kay.
Oh my god… All that bare man-flesh… I…
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*swoon*
Allow me to quote from an OLD daffy duck cartoon….
“Drool, drool”
*heartpops*
Careful ladies, some cranky teenager may freak out and get on our case again.
eff the teenagers…. my finger is itching to click “save as desktop”.
Yeah, what was wrong with him?
Well, I would reference closets and Narnia again, thrown in with frustration and resentment, with a possible “my mommy didn’t hug me enough” for good measure.
Oh Aye, I’d go with resentment…and perhaps a misogynistic inferiority complex.
It was the superior comment at the start that was really annoying. ( + the sudden change of tack to “don’t hurt me, I’m a minor”)
I just wish Emmy Pankhurst was alive to take care of people like him….
LOL–Providing us with a great mental image–WIN!! : D
who says we’re ladies? buttpirates need love too.
Absolutely!!
*hugs*
AMEN!
ps. Got any plans later?
~wink~
Why yes, yes they do.
All you asswhipes still pissed about a proposal not passing and troll on people who did support it should be shot. It was a fair propsol, and people are entitled to their opinion. Thank god no one here went on a religious speach, as many of defendents do.
Also show some support for our troops. They’ve done more then you ever will.
Way to totally miss the point.
Dahlin, we TOTALLY support the troops…and admire the effect of all of that hard exercise! And if they didn’t want us to admire that effect, they wouldn’t be posing, would they?
Exactly. Actually I bet they’d get a kick out of all the, um…admiration they are getting here!
Wow, you fail at life. Congratulations. Please to remove yourself from that high horse you’re riding.
Yeah, Proposition 8 is a serious issue, and the gentlemen pictured should have a fair opportunity to discuss their opinions with me… in my chambers.
*sound of door locking*
*snicker* Well now Tessie, there’s an awful large amount of them. For effeciency sake I’m pretty sure you’ll need my help. I’ll take half.
Not so fast, Tootz! *employs unfair use of elbows*
There are 15 of them, so it’s better to divide by 3, anyway. I get the one who looks like froos husband! *licks him to establish dibs*
Heck, if I can share bon-bons, I can share hunks. Sharing is nice.
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*unlocks door*
*has hunks bring snack trays and umbrella drinks to poolside*
Superior service you got here, Tess, and your Mama would be proud of the sharing! ; )
How ironic is it that this comment is number 69? ; )
Mom has always taught by example, and sharing is no exception. We agree that she has dibs on Sean Connery, and Johnny Depp is all mine. Everybody’s happy.
No! Johnny Depp is MINE!!!!
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*tackles Tessie*
OOF! Good thing I have enough badonkadonk to cushion my landing. (thinks) What would you say to a Johnny Depp/Jared Leto trade-off on alternate days?
You can keep Leto, his eyebrows are too bushy. What about a Depp/Pitt trade-off? But only if I can have Brad nekkid with a bow around him.
Well, obviously, we’re going to need to have a pool (no pun intended) of er-uh… talent, with schedules and sign-up sheets and so forth. For starters, I suggest Johnny Depp, Jared Leto, Brad Pitt…
do we have agreement on George Clooney? He’s a little sassy, but I think he just needs some discipline. Feel free to write in your own suggestion(s).
Clooney you can have too. No argument there *hands over*
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But I want total and forever dibs on Dwayne Johnson. Since you mentioned Clooney, what about Noah Wyle?
You can have Dwayne and Noah.
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I don’t know if I’d exactly describe him as a hunk, but have you heard/read about this?:
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“The day after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Steve Buscemi, who worked as a firefighter from 1980-1984, showed up at his old fire station, Engine Company No. 55 in the Little Italy section of New York.
For the next week he worked 12-hour shifts, digging through the rubble trying to find the bodies of missing firefighters, all the while refusing to do interviews or have his picture taken. “
Steve Buscemi is one of those guys who I’m attracted to, but I have no idea why and won’t admit it in mixed company. I loved him in Armageddon.
Oh, I also want Paul Wingfield!
Steve Buscemi is not only brave, but I heard he has an IQ of 158. Plus, he looks like Batboy from weekly world news.
Does he get to come to No Pants Island [TM]?
While you two sort that schedule thing out, I’m going to go rescue me some “boat people,” okay? : D
Is it too late for dibbs on Paul Rudd?
I can’t help but notice nobody’s claimed Clive Owen, so I call dibsies!
I did not know that. Steve, wherever you are, I salute you. *salutes*
I’ll take Orlando Bloom & Chris Martin. Oh~Takeshi Kaneshiro as well.
My friend calls Steve Buscemi her GROT. Gross but hot. I can’t think of one at the moment.
Jeez!
We almost forgot Hugh Jackman!
AND Viggo Mortensen!
Curiosity: Do you suppose Viggo Mortensen spends his spare time hanging around with Ving Rhames?
Who played Cyclops in X-Men? I want him! And Patrick Stewart…..*sigh* Dreamy old guy!
Also, please try to avoid tackling and other horseplay at poolside. It tends to spill the snack trays and umbrella drinks, and then the hunks have to go make more, when we have better uses for their time and energy, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
But what about the water splashing for the wet boxer shorts contest? We HAVE to have that!!!!
And wisdom like THAT, froo, is why YOU are one of the co-rulers of No Pants Island [tm]!
maybe the wet shorts shouldnt be black tho.
Oh, I am supporting the troops.
I’m very, VERY supportive of the troops. Mmm.
Can someone explain to me how Prop8 was “fair”?
Oh my. Where to start? “Wipes” there’s no h in it. PropOsal. SpeEch. DefendAnts. Enough with the syntax, let’s move on to content.
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The proposal was to BAN gay marriage, and it passed. For about the millionth time, we’re a constitutional republic, you can’t pass an unconstitutional law. Nobody should be shot for expressing an opinion, no matter how stupid or uneducated they may be. It was NOT a fair proposal. I’m entitled to my opinion that YOUR opinion sucks. There are plenty of people here who actually practice a religion and discuss it in civil terms. This LOL does not disrespect the troops. And while I salute their courage and bravery, and I honor all our veterans, our troops haven’t done anything recently to make us any safer. Not their fault, of course.
Thanks Seth!
Yes, Thank you, Seth! : D
actually it just banned the term “marriage” when referring to a same sex union. They have the same rights under their legally protected “same sex union”, they just can’t call it marriage.
The whole thing is stupid to me. I’m sick of it already. Both sides. You wanna be with someone? Be with them. End of story.
Ya, give everyone marriages and let that floaty guy in the sky sort it out!
This is wrong in more ways than I’m qualified to enumerate in detail, but Numbers 1 through approx. 1,070 are the rights, privileges and benefits granted to MARRIED couples under Federal law that do not apply to civil unions.
Make civil union a federally recognized legal status with full rights, privileges and benefits of marriage, and then we’ll talk about what’s stupid.
just so I’m clear…what exactly are the rights, privileges and benefits of marriage??
honestly. I’m not being a jerk, I swear. I’m just asking. =)
Ummm, please to refer back a couple of lols. The one about civil rights movement was the most recent gay marriage fight we’ve had, but we’ve had plenty in the last two weeks. Just browse the previous threads, they’ve been listed.
Yeah, it’s the one with the black guy holding up the yellow sign with the word “marraige” (misspelled) on it. There really are a lot of legal differences between marriage and civil unions.
Well, first you get the right to be miserable until death do you part.. Second you have the privilege to argue about the most inane things until you are in sickness not health.. Third you have the benefit of knowing that everything you have is 50% theirs.
/end sarcasm
Personally, I think everyone is entitled to the same recognition under the law.. I think it says that somewhere too.. Law recognizes me and my partner, but ignores my friend and his partner? Blah blah blah so on and so forth. Can’t pick and choose who freedoms apply to just cause someone objects to who you take in your bedroom.
“Well, first you get the right to be miserable until death do you part.. Second you have the privilege to argue about the most inane things until you are in sickness not health.”
Tch, tch. So young, and yet so cynical. You also get to write thank you notes for six identical Mr. Coffees received as wedding presents, discuss all the things you ate that day that you shouldn’t have eaten (and the inevitable aftereffects), tell big fat lies to get each other out of boring events that you don’t want to go to… the possibilities are endless.
In Oregon, where I live, the word “marriage” occurs in over two hundred places, where the rights of those who are married are enumerated.
The phrase “civil unions” only appears in half that number, and not one of those says “shall have all the rights granted to a marriage.”
Clearly we need to get our hands on these documents, and come armed with white-out and sharpies.
“All you asswhipes … should be shot. … people are entitled to their opinion.”
You gotta love that logic!
I think baby was definitely upset during that mess! I wonder if he will reread his words after he has calmed down…
Come on! Logical conclusion: People are entitled to be shot for their opinion???
I didn’t get this far during the first read, but “Also show some support for our troops. They’ve done more then you ever will.”
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WTF??? We have no military peeps on here? Evidently, the guy has some set attitudes about who we are that don’t bear up well in the light of day.
Also.. How does he know that any given non-military peep hasn’t done as much, if not more, for this country? Do we all have bios somewhere that I’m missing? Mine clearly needs to be updated then to say “Cured cancer”, “Saved the world from Pinky and the Brain” and “Single handedly stopped pollution from destroying the ozone layer”. @@
Seems a little unfair to say that just because someone serves/d in the military that they have done more than someone who hasn’t. That’s pretty much saying “My military service makes me better than you”, and saying nothing afterwards.
Military service is an admirable admirable thing to do. Many heroic acts are performed by the military. But not having military service in your background doesn’t automatically mean that one cannot, or has not, contributed just as much heroism.
LOL!!
He didn’t claim to have been in the military, so I assume that he hasn’t been. In my dealing with this sort, I doubt he would leave that part of his CV out of *any* conversation, otherwise.
Wow–You have quite an impressive CV! (And here I thought you only went around saying koochie-koochie!)
No no, my name has two “r”s in it. That imposter only has 1 “r” because I told her I would sue otherwise
Thanks!
I made a nice comment to this, but apparently it has been swallowed by the aether.
Something about my name has two “r”s while the imposters has 1. Sorry if the original comment is spewed out later.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE IT IS!!!! This site freaks me out sometimes.
Yeah, it does that. It can *sometimes* be avoided if you don’t use emoticons.
I’m sorry for the Charo/Charro mix-up. I wasn’t old enough to spell during “the imposter’s” popularity. ;o)
But the important part is, now you CAN spell. Seems to be a lost art nowadays…
Yes, and thank you. You seem to get the letters in the right frequency and order, as well.
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Today was flukey in terms of misspelling. Even “Born to be mild” contained a capitalization error. I giggled when I first saw it, thinking the captioner had possibly chosen smaller words to ensure spelling success. ;o)
This really has nothing to do with anything but I laughed at myself. I usually don’t pay attention to spelling, grammar, punctualization, etc. while instant messaging with my friends. So, today at work I was telling my friend (or trying to) that my computer was sounding like a jet about to take off (it makes this obnoxious whirring sound every 32 seconds)
Except what I TYPED was “my computer sounds like a jew about to take off”. Then I saw what I wrote and just lost it. My next send was “LOL nice typo Charro, sheesh”.
I’m still laughing about it. LOL.
Enjoy.
yez, nat menny peepol cin spel thees daiz. tee hee
HAHAHAHA!!! Your opinion differs from mine so it’s ok that I now shoot you! Thousands of years of civilization have come to that. Sweet!
My bosses opinion on my raise differs than mine.. can I shoot him too?
Certainly, and often! ;^)
Lock n load.. Regulators, mount up.
*shrugs*
Sure; why not?
Ooh, a nice collection of name-calling, point-missing, ignorance of current events, childish jingoism, and inability to use words properly. Also some non-sentences, and recitation of pseudo-patriotic right-wing nonsense.
Chanting ignorant slogans is not patriotism.
Have another beer.
If he doesn’t want it.. I’ll take it.
if ur calling people who dont support prop 8 trolls, i suggest you reread your own comment. People are entitled to their opinions, and i think we’re all fine with that, but when they take their opinions and make them into laws that take fundamental rights way from people, thats when we have a problem.
*disclaimer* if what i read as a typo in the beginning of your comment -all you asswipes still pissed about a proposal **not** passing- was not a typo and you arent meaning what i think you are, then yes, i will have some mustard with my crow.
oops. i posted that as a reply to the original senor comment, but i guess it got eeten and spit out. sorry!
wow. if you’re calling people trolls, you should reread your comment. People are entitled to their opinions, and i support that, but when they take their opinions that exclude people from having fundamental rights and try to make them law, that’s when we have a problem. calling anyone who doesnt support prop 8 names mean that you are lowering yourself to the level of people who stand on the streets with signs saying things like “God hates f*g enablers”. Also, while i agree that our troops are definitely important and support their bravery, i think there are more important things one could do with one’s life than fight wars over oil. Im not implying that i dont support the people fighting, i just dont support the war.
I have a sudden urge for beef tonight – the h*ll with chicken…..
*Gives LG some cake to go with the beef*
There’s a caption!?
Yummm!
“Fleets In !!! Well, HELLO Sailor!”
I’m sorry, what did you guys say?
It’s just that…..I….. can’t….. stop….. looking.
Delicious, delicious, delicious men.
I’ll take “omg I need new panties” for a thousand, Alex
That was a little too much information.
I was okay with the information. I have yet to find knowing that a woman is turned on to be too much information. I find it to be just enough. ; )
In that case, you’ll be happy to hear that I am, too.
Just enough information? Then consider yourself informed; I’m pretty turned on myself. (Ryan N., sorry if you’re additionally freaked out!)
(PK ate my first damn reply…so I apologize in advance if it ends up doubling)
Now for step two…
Which would be?
Plotting on how to work that to my advantage or if it would even behoove me to try and work it to my advantage. Then there is the niggling doubt of whether I even could work it to my advantage.
Step two is complicated.
Sounds like it!
Contemplative DWN is contemplative…
Step 3: ???
Step 4: PROFIT!
Hey, random Underpants Gnome quote FTW!
Naturally, of course, it shows up half an hour after I post it…:kicks something:
I sense a mood shift.
Yes, frustration is setting in…grrr. Makes me cranky.
Don’t use emoticons: They eff up posts.
:hugs: rhorho — is THAT what it is? I was about to lose it with their servier!
LOL–Losing it is easy, but the trip back is difficult. None of the roadside restrooms are clean, and there’s construction every five miles! ;o)
Yes, the trip back from losing it is via I-80 through Pennsylvania.
For srs. Only place I’ve ever seen a sign said CONSTRUCTION NEXT 42 MILES.
I can only see half of the picture… is that happening to anyone else?
Which half? Top or bottom?
RRrrrrRRRrrrr!
I’m a proud Veteran of the US Navy and I voted no on prop 8. So bite me “senor.”
Thank you!
Can…can I bite you?
Hmmmm?
Bravo good sir.
As a member of the army, I just want to impart this little bit of wisdom upon all of you to think about….actually, 2 bits of wisdom.
“If you can’t laugh, the terrorists have already won”
and
“We’ve all got bellybuttons, so we’ve all got something in common.”
So just chill out, and relax.
Oh, and ladies: If you’re looking for a not-as-fit alternative to these guys, just gimme a holler and I’ll start encoding my messages for you to contact me with.
*hug*
Karolina Kurkova doesn’t have a belly button. I was so amused by that.
What? How the hell does THAT happen? Eeeep.
And SPCOsborne, I really like that — we all need to remember to keep a sense of humor!
OOMPHALOCELE
Google it. When the repair is done on the abdomen, no bellybuttons…
Hey, Navy guys, I have a couple of propositions that you can’t say no too…
*rawr!*
In Soviet Russia, a Proposition 8 you?
tee hee!
*naughty giggles*
Go Navy!
amendment 8 ? what?
Who Cares?
GO NAVY. YUM.
Okay, everyone is missing the irony here.
A bunch of sweaty muscle men standing around in cheesy tough-guy poses wearing nothing but matching black shorts. That is SOOOOO gay! It really makes one wonder whether they’re posing for women or posing for men.
Irony FAIL on you, rob. That’s the point of the caption!
That’s why I said “everyone is missing” the irony. FAIL for lack of reading comprehension.
No, you fail. Twice now. Are you going for a record?
We *all* get it, Rob. That’s a given, so nobody feels the need to explain it.
Do you really think nobody else understood, except *you?*
*sigh*
Rob’s the most smartest man in the whole widest world. And he’s the most handsomest and the most bravest and the most mostest ever!
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/sarcasm. *rolls eyes at rob, points and giggles with rho*
Okay, so I missed the “got its” between the women and men drooling and the argument over Prop 8. I’m an idiot and my face sends children & women running away in horror. Even my dog hates me now.
I hope you charming ladies have a wonderful evening
LOL! Okay, now that you’ve survived the trial by the fiery wrath of froo and rho, you’re pretty much immortal. You apologized most graciously, so it’s all forgives with me. I don’t want to speak for froo, but believe she saves her best stuff for shameless, unapologetic trolls. I’m sorry about your face, but your dog can be won over with food. Trust me on that–It’s from the school of been-there-done-that! (I don’t know the cure for cat hatred, tho.)
Cheers!
Fish or bird nibbles and head scritchies usually work with cats. Scritch their heads whilst hand-feeding fish nibblies, and you can be their faaaaaavorite hoomin!
My cats rise to food and attention situations, then return to their contemptuous attitudes as soon as my back is turned. Through careful mirror placement, I have also been able to catch them making faces at each other behind my back. Two-faced ingrates! : S
My cats love me…
Yeah, mine act like they love me, too, but I have my doubts. Those doubts reach a peak during early morning awakenings for food concerns.
Aliera has, at any rate, great love for the space between my body and any keyboard….
Here’s what they really do. Check my link.
LMAO!
My dog is only won over by food for the ten seconds it takes him to eat
The great thing is, it doesn’t matter! Since I can’t really have them anyway, their actual gay-or-straightness isn’t an issue. “It’s my fantasy, fella, get busy!”
They could all pair off and get married tomorrow and my best wishes to ‘em, but the pic is still hot.
And funny.
And politically pertinent.
Did you say pert?!?!
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Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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oh wait, you said pertinent.. damn!
No “plunder his booty” jokes? Disappointed.
makes me miss working around SEAL Team 8 and the MDSU-2 divers….mmmmmmmm. Keep in mind the average sailor is NOT built like these fine specimens…
Wow… who knew a damn photo with a few words on it would cause so much freakin discussion. That’s an lol in itself if you ask me!
Hey everyone on this post thread!
The stuff you’ve been discussing abt right/left wing bias seems to be an issue that
has been commented on in this article regarding “the Confirmation Bias”.”
The Powerful Pull of Belief
by Michael Shermer
Op Ed in LA Times 11-18-08
I want to hear this being bandied about!
they’re SEALs from Coronado, like someone above said. they are men of olympic athletic shape and extremely intelligent. also, they have killed more people than your liberal heads would know what to do with; so shut the fuc* up.
And your candy-ass point would be…
what is proposition 8?
Hmpf, my response ended up being at the bottom rather than as a reply to this one, sorry.
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Clicking my name here takes you to a wikipedia article explaining it. In short, it was the Californian proposition that made same-sex-marriage illegal.
See the two guys with their hands over their junk?
They’re the only two in that picture that aren’t gay.
And I’m good with that! HOOYAH!
Some of those guys aren’t too bad.
If they take off their pants I would vote no on propersition 8!!!
OOOH man those navy guys could kick your ass, good luck running.
Can I has one?
Oh wow. You’re just wrong on so many points. I’m gonna try to answer real quick.
Firstly: Does it have a huge negative effect? YES. People of the same sex can’t legally get married and can therefore not recieve many benefits their married next door neighbours get – simply because they’re a man and a woman. So, a marriage is something that is strictly between a man and a woman? SAYS WHO? Oh believe you me, I’m somewhat of a language expert, marriage is not the Christians’ word. I don’t even wanna get into all that! If you don’t get my arguments by now, you probably never will.
Secondly: Should it be an insult? Are you saying you’re better than someone because she happens to have a girlfriend? Is that what you’re saying? That you’re superior? Because if that’s what you’re saying, then your argument makes sense.
“And please explain how banning something is unconstitutional.”
Whoever said that banning things is unconstitutional?
You have no idea what the issue is about.
Wait wait wait. You know, someone COULD make the argument that banning weed HAS had a huge negative effect. As a result of this ban there is a HUGE drug trade supporting countries that produce marijuana. The U.S. has the position that these coutnries are bad, because they produce drugs, yet at a street level that very country derives much of it’s capital from us buying drugs! That makes us “supporters” of the country or countries we condemn! There is a HUGE influx of illegal marijuana that comes into this country. There is NO regulation of the illegal marijuana so there’s no guarantee that what you are buying is “good” much less “safe”. People are making massive amounts of cash distributing illegal marijuana! So in effect, by banning it we created a giant black market. In addition, since it is a schedule 1 drug it is hard to get a research permit on it, and it could have great medicinal benefits. It’s already shown to help out people with glaucoma and help people getting chemo reduce some of the ill-side effects of chemo. One could argue these are huge negative effects. EVERYTHING has a good side and a bad side to it.
Gay people not allowed to be married? Negative effect is… Gays are less of people than straights. “We don’t like your dirty butt sex so we won’t acknowledge that your love is the same as straight people and provide you the same options straight people have”. What’s next? What do we decide to ban next because we don’t like it? Not drugs, but human rights.
Besides, um. Banning drugs is way way way different than telling gay people that they are somehow less than straight people because they like and love people of the same sex. Sure, everyone has the right to their opinion, but it’s not right to tell one group of people that because you disagree with how they live their lives you are going to make a law that makes them a second class group of people.
thank you roybatty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
insult in the common man’s eyes????????? wtf? grow up!!!!!!!!!
It’s unconstitutional in that it violates equal protection under the law.
Banning gay marriage does. Banning things in general does not.
The guy I responded to doesn’t seem to have noticed the difference (as demonstrated in the line of his I quoted).
@ Both: You are both right, of course. I’m sorry if this is a silly question, but do you ever wonder how people like this guy *function* IRL, day-to-day?
I think he had to push the helmet up from his forehead to see the keyboard well enough to type.
When will I learn not to eat or drink while reading your posts?
I don’t think he pushed it up far enough.
*hands rho a sticky note to put on her computer that says “Do Not Eat Or Drink While Reading Froofroo’s Posts”*
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: )
Wipes remainder of chicken strip off monitor; places post-it note next to fortune cookie insert.
Rhorho, if anything comes up in the future, would you please be on my side?
~ shudders meekly at the previous retort ~
;o)
DOH!!! CURSE YOU PK!!!
It pasted it twice… -_-
That’s okay–It’s good to have a second copy, in case something happens to the first one. *blink, blink*
It’s automatic, Dahlink! ;^)
True though it makes the end into a giant run on. I didn’t need any help looking out of it today though I guess I can’t blame PK for helping… *grumble*
And I liked that post too. Grrr.
I know it’s just a typo, but “copypasta” really made me want some lasagne. Slightly off topic.
This is just about the most concise and precise comment on this subject I have ever read, making the point to those not especially enamored of fondness toward homosexuality at the same time.
I am a homosexual myself. But even I have an “ick factor” where some men are concerned. Watching two, fat sissy guys with beards smooching is almost enough to induce vomiting in me as well.
But then when one sees two visages of male beauty, such as maybe a guy who looks like actor Josh Hartnett making love to a guy who looks like actor James Marsden, or looking at the finely chiseled bodies of handsome male gymnasts, then the “ick factor” may become a “lick factor.”
But thank you for sharing your intelligence. In these times, especially, such is appreciated and very much needed.
I could be mistaken, but the original parallel was:
“Weed is banned. Does it have a huge negative effect? No.
Gay marriage is banned. Does it have a huge negative effect? No.”
I interpreted this as, “Weed is banned, even though it [weed] does not have a huge negative effect. Similarly, gay marriage is banned, even though it [gay marriage] does not have a huge negative effect”.
The ambiguity lies in exactly what “it” refers to, but I think he meant that the banned substances/practices do not have a negative effect, not that the banning itself doesn’t have a negative effect. If so, it makes his premise read substantially differently.
amen!
It was intentional, not a typo. Something I picked up from elsewhere when it comes to debating/discussion and the person is acknowledging they are copying and then pasting from another area.
In keeping with your comments. I have Alfredo sauce with Italian sausage with noddles for my lunch today. I love Lynn. ^_^
Interesting. Learn something new everyday.
I don’t have a lunch today sadly. I forgot it and my hubby is 1800 miles away
But maybe I’ll make a tasty batch of lasagne for myself tomorrow. MMmmmmMMMM lasagne.
Good deal, sorry about the hubby location though.
Thanksgiving lasagne?
Whatever turns you on…de gustibus &c.
Thank you. I do miss him terribly. He always made nice lunches for me.
I am a conservative Christian on the religious right. Gay marriage won’t be in my life, and yet I have no reason to oppose it.
I just don’t want to be lumped in with angry or abusive people. Not all Christians (conservative or otherwise) are against it. It’s a non-issue.
It was copypasta from another LOL comment thread where somebody was talking about the RR being forced. I wasn’t trying to pick on ya and apologize for the misconception.
Cuz PK ate my post, I will do this. *hugs* No worries, I wasn’t trying to pick on ya. In the other place this was posted, somebody was making a statement that the RR was being forced on this issue. Apologies for the confusion. Wasn’t targeting you.
*needs another post-it note*
I read those off-topic distractions the same way you did. Each one is an example of a “Straw Man Fallacy.” Click my name for a good explanation.
Sorry–wrong link up there. This one’s better. (Click name.)
*sigh*
I don’t have anywhere to be for thanksgiving and nuking a turkey tv dinner is just way too depressing. Plus, I like to cook and love lasagne, so I might as well treat myself.
Thanks for that, been meaning to take a refresher on my informal fallacies. Been a while since logic class.
Though, this one always makes me think of “Burning Man” and then I just get sidetracked.
I posted something before I left work… 5 hours ago… I think it genuinely was eaten. No smileys either.
No problemo! I wasn’t taking it personally, just wanting to show another side of the “right side.”
Now, that said, I am a bit of a homo myself…
Thanks for replying though. I’m enjoying this thread!
I bet you’re not anywhere near Connecticut/Rhode Island….