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That whole naughty or nice thing? SERIOUS business this year.

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That whole naughty or nice thing? SERIOUS business this year.

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  1. slanagat says:

    You better watch out, you better not cry
    You better not pout, I’m telling you why
    Santa Claus is packin’ a Kalash.

    Also, F1RST???

    • rhorho says:

      Forgivable first, FTW!!
      Now that I’m suddenly extremely interested in behavior modification, is there such a thing as a 12-Step Pouting Program?
      -
      “Hi. My name is Rho, and I’m a pouter.”

      • slanagat says:

        Hi Rho!

        Maybe instead of a 12-step you need aversion therapy involving tickling.

        • rhorho says:

          That form of therapy would be extremely easy on the therapist, and effective. Most of the time, the mere mention of the word would suffice. At the most, wiggling of fingers would work. Heck, even air quotes mess me up! Thank you for the cure! :o )

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Nothing says ‘Festive’ like an accessory designed by Mikhail! Makes shopping a dream too…

  2. sbell says:

    That’s really effing scary. I’ll never think of Santa the same way again…

  3. PiMan says:

    He knows when you are sleeping.
    He knows when you’re on the can.
    He’ll hunt you down and blast your ass from here to Pakistan.
    Oh.
    You’d better not breathe, You’d better not move.
    You’re better off dead, I’m telling you, dude.
    Santa Claus is gunning you down!

  4. Selkhit says:

    So be good. For goodness sake, be good! I’m not sh*tting around here!!

  5. FAther says:

    ANY0NEZ WANTS 2 CYBERZ!? LAWLZ

  6. Captain Wow says:

    At first I was like WTF kind of movie is Will Smith in?

  7. rhorho says:

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas…
    everywhere you go
    There’s a skinny man packing heat…
    walking along the street
    I’ll bet nobody charges him for blo-o-ow!

  8. slanagat says:

    Tires around your neck and lit on fire
    Feral dogs nipping at your nose
    Rebels carrying guns down the street
    And UN troops as rare as Eskimos……

  9. scum-bot says:

    Santa Claus is gunning you down…

  10. Danbala says:

    Ah, he’s just culling the reindeer. (Coincidentally, that’s what I’m cooking for supper tonight. :o )

  11. ema says:

    Actually he was just getting ready for some early morning shopping on Black Friday. *shudder*

  12. NinjaPacman says:

    But I thought it was serious biznizz already! I mean, come on people! PRESENTS are at stake!

  13. Ghostwish says:

    Shopped.

  14. DeathWyrmNexus says:

    Happy Black Friday, everyone!

    • AC says:

      Excuse the ignorance, what’s Black Friday?

      • minerva146 says:

        The “busiest shopping day of the year.” All the stores here go into overdrive offering “doorbuster” sales starting at least as early as 6am. it’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, and most people have off work, so it’s become a ridiculous tradition of shopping orgy. (for the upcoming Xmas holidays) Here’s a link about the madness. My feet hurt. I WORKED in retail today. Glad I didn’t have to open the doors. I was told that like 900 people were lined up this morning when they opened. Apparently they were more civilized than in long island though. Fortunately I started a bit later than the initial wave of frenzy.

        • PortlandMark says:

          Weird how busy we were today (I’m a restaurant manager). We planned and scheduled for little growth over last year, and instead, we got creamed from about 20 minutes past six AM until two PM. My crew is exhausted, and we still have two more days till most of them get a day off.

          I’m hoping this indicates the season is going to be better than one would think, given the bad economic news.

          • rhorho says:

            I don’t remember who he was, but I read that one expert was predicting a 3% drop in gift spending. (That figure doesn’t sound too bad to me.) This morning, someone on CNN predicted that holiday shoppers would likely cut spending on items for themselves this year, sticking to “gifts only” shopping.

        • Jane St.Clair says:

          Ha! I didn’t have to go in until six (in the evening), by then everyone was at home eating leftover turkey and falling into exhausted slumber! However, I was stuck on the register for two and a half hours while worthless holiday help got to work on the floor. Excuse me? I’ve been there three freaking years, they can get their butts on the reg and be grateful for the employment for their first Christmas!

        • AC says:

          A shopping day?
          Ah, that’s why it wasn’t on the calendar…

      • rhorho says:

        It’s called “Black” Friday because stores here don’t usually show a profit for the year until this day. (In accounting, red numerals represent negative numbers; black numerals represent positive numbers, indicating profit.)

        • PortlandMark says:

          Funny thing about that. It’s one of those false ideas that takes an accountant to come up with. My store shows a profit every single week. It’s a small percentage of gross sales, but larger than most in our segment. The lie, see, comes from the idea that we don’t make any profit until the last segment of the year, the length of which is the same is the same % as our profits. Obviously, however, if we didn’t show a profit until late November, we would have been replaced much earlier in the year!

          Ah, well. It’s not rhorho’s fault that number crunchers don’t live in the same world we do.

          • rhorho says:

            I wasn’t talking about restaurants, either. True, I was parroting, but the P/L of retail stores and restaurants are different, yes?

            • PortlandMark says:

              I think they’re fairly close. Around 4%to 10%, depending on a number of factors.

              • rhorho says:

                I don’t doubt your figures, but I believe the time frame is different. Here’s something I’ve found that gets at my point:
                -
                “The Thanksgiving shopping weekend, from Friday through Sunday, accounted for about 10.1 percent of overall holiday sales last year, according to ShopperTrak RCT Corp. Bill Martin, ShopperTrak’s co-founder, declined to offer estimates for the day this year, but said he believes that even though shoppers will be deliberate in their spending it will remain the biggest selling day of the season.”
                -
                I’m thinking restaurant sales are less spikey than retail sales. Do you agree?

                • slanagat says:

                  A client of mine who runs a restaurant assured me that the Wednesday before Thanksgiving was his busiest day all year. The bar does very well the Friday after, but not so much the restaurant. (People need to drink heavily after sittind gown to leftovers with their relatives!)

                  • rhorho says:

                    I remember getting frustrated as a kid when my mother would cook goodies all day, but it was all “for tomorrow” (Thanksgiving or Christmas). Thinking about it now, I’ll bet the last thing she wanted to do after cooking all day was make dinner. LOL!–leftovers and relatives.

                • PortlandMark says:

                  As a rule, my store stays pretty consistent; just some seasonal changes we’ve learned to deal with. Other places I’ve worked, though, have had large spikes. Mexican “party restaurant” spiked a month’s worth of off season sales in a single Cinco de Mayo weekend, the German restaurant did three months of off season business in each of November and December, and a second Mexican “party restaurant” used to do a week’s off season sales every Wednesday in the summer when we had live music, outside dancing on the river, and a wakeboard exhibition/contest on the river outside. Most, though, don’t have the advantage of big spikes like that.

        • Lyn says:

          Oh! I knew what it was, but I never knew why they called it that. Thanks!

        • minerva146 says:

          Yeah, I would have to agree that this is a myth. mark is right. If companies were operating in the red for 9/10ths of the year, or even half the year assuming fiscal year starts in July, they wouldn’t stay in business year after year. I read something that department stores and the like might be down this year, but discount retailers like Walmart and Target may be up due to the shift in spending priorities. i.e. a way to get more for less.

          I am very disturbed by the callous and barbaric way these people actually broke in the doors and trampled a man to death just for the sake of a few bargains. Seeing as I was working at a mass merchandiser, it’s especially troubling. At least our store had several security people right out front from the beginning.

          • rhorho says:

            That trampling death was appalling. (I use dark humor to get me over things I can’t handle. Hopefully you understand.) It’s hard to comprehend that, in this day and age, we can still act like herding animals. Evidently, the possibility of getting 20% off on a toaster oven for Aunt Mildred was more important than that poor gentleman’s life. I will never get that.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            They trampled a pregnant woman too, but last I heard she and the baby were okay. And they ripped the door off the hinges. Srsly? If I were the family of that employee I’d be sueing Walmart for not having a better system in place. Several people had already said they didn’t like the tone of the crowd, the store management should have had barricades, or a number system, or something.

            • AC says:

              According to Minerva’s link, the poor woman miscarried. Truly horrible.

            • herb says:

              They should have cameras, right? why not levy manslaughter charges against as many of the people involved? FFS, the hordes pushed workers out of the help’s way and nearly trampled the paramedics, then had the audacity to walk through the same torn-down door, arms laden with prezzies. The whole “Aaahhhhh… it was a mob mentality, therefore I’m innocent bullsh*t” has to end somewhere.

              • rhorho says:

                (Sorry if my original post from this morning ever comes back.) I heard on CNN today that the tapes from the cameras will be reviewed, and prosecution is possible. I think they should definitely get the ones who broke down the door on top of the guy. However, the people in the crowd (except for the first ones) likely couldn’t see the employee before they were stepping on him. I heard an account that some other employees were trying to go against the crowd to help the man, but it took several minutes to do so.

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  I heard that people were shoving the EMT workers that came to revive the guy. I also heard some shoppers threw right little hissy fits when they heard the store was closing because of the death. It makes me lose faith in humanity, not only that someone is killed over Thanksgiving sales, but even after you get away from the “crowd mentality” to be pissed that you can’t shop because A GUY DIED?! What kind of bottom feeder are you? I mean, being an agnositc I don’t go in for the “he’s the reason for the season” crap, but srsly, what the hell are you celebrating Christmas for you lowlife? /rant off

                  • rhorho says:

                    I heard the report about the EMT workers, too. Did you hear that several people ran away from the scene when they saw what was happening? I felt a little better knowing that *part* of the crowd was able to muster compassion. They must not have closed the store right away, as I heard that customers were leaving with shopping bags, adding to the chaos.
                    .
                    If the people in front who pushed the door in were smart, they didn’t use checks or credit cards in the store, hehe. I wonder if they thought that far ahead, or if the thought hit them after they got home and saw the store on the news. At first I thought it would be difficult to prove that certain people were in the crowd, but it dawned on me that Walmart has lots of cameras around, especially around electronics sales areas and IIRC at all cash registers.

                • PortlandMark says:

                  I also heard that it’s hard to establish who was to blame: the ones in front were being pushed by the ones behind and had no control over the general crush of humanity. It was just a case of herd behavior at it’s worst.

                  Man, I hate crowds.

                  • rhorho says:

                    I think the cameras will tell the tale. One would look a lot different being pushed into a glass door as opposed to forcing the door, himself.
                    .
                    BTW, Do you remember anything about an open-seating concert where people were crushed? I can’t remember the details, but it seemed like quite a few people were hurt and 2-3 (?) killed. It was probably +/- 10 years ago. Anyway, I felt as incredulous then as I do now.

                    • rhorho says:

                      I can only find the Who concert in 1979 in Cincinnati, in which 11 people were trampled to death. There was another, more recent one, tho.

                    • Danbala says:

                      In 2000, nine people died at the Roskilde festival during a Pearl Jam gig. (A BBC article is linked if you click my name. That says eight, Wikipedia says another died a few days later.)

                      • rhorho says:

                        You ROCK! That’s *exactly* the one I was trying to remember! Thank you! :o )

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        For real crowd related deaths, try the Hillsborough Disaster. 96 people dead due to crushing. An old friend of mine responded to the call for all available doctors and spent the next couple of hours tagging dead people.

                        Sordid details behind my name.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Wow. The worst part to me was: “Some fans tried to break through the police cordon to ferry injured supporters to waiting ambulances, and were forcibly turned back.” What a nightmare!

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Oh, it was a complete shambles.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Ouch. Not good at all. :o (
                          .
                          Not that I am after a “list your worst accidents”-competition, this thread just reminds me all too well of our local disaster, where people – as far as I remember – didn’t die directly by trampling, but by a blocked emergency exit and therefore not enough escape routes, too many people in the premises, and so on. Lots of terribleness. :o (
                          .
                          I lived close enough to feel the smoke-smell, which makes stuff so much more “real” (I’m simple like that).

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          The ‘bricked up fire exit’ thing happens so often that one could almost call it natural causes for Disco goers…

                        • Danbala says:

                          Quite so. I can’t understand why so many people seem to think so little of security precautions. Probably the good old “oh, but nothing would happen to me/that wouldn’t happen here” factor at work. :o /

            • PortlandMark says:

              I’m not a lawyer, but I think Wal-Mart has covered themselves by contracting out both the security and the hiring of the worker. See, he was hired by a second company who contracts to provide the labor, another company was contracted to provide security, and Wal-Mart gets to wring their hands and say how much they regret that their contractors were incompetent, but next time they’ll hire better companies.

              • Jane St.Clair says:

                *sigh* I hate Walmart. In sort of a related story, many of my cousins and I were sitting around on Thanksgiving talking and since one of my cousins is a teacher (like me) and another one likes to parade her Mensa membership, we were talking about IQ’s. Well we sort of got to talking about this women who was alleged to have the highest recorded IQ and that it was something like 210 and I said, “that must be horrible, can you even imagine how she lived her life, how she manages trying to talk to people?” and my cousin (the alleged Mensa member) got this really horrified look on her face and said, “Oh God, it’d be like shopping at Walmart EVERY DAY!” Just thought I share that for a little levity. ; )

              • rhorho says:

                That may or may not fly. The geophysical company where I used to work hired a subcontractor. (My company was contracted by an exploration company.) The subcontractor accidentally set off a 5.5 lb charge of Pentolite between his legs. The accident was purely the guy’s fault, but my company and the exploration company jointly settled with his widow.
                .
                Walmart probably doesn’t have to pay many claims, relatively speaking. They are bound to have a huge attorney pool to handle all of the inevitable slip-and-fall claims, etc. Still, for PR sake, Walmart may settle with the man’s family. They need to stay off the TV on this one, especially since the news went national.

                • dissimilitude says:

                  In general, WalMart Does Not Settle. Even in claims where they are clearly at fault. It’s part of how they keep from constantly being snowed under with stupid petty lawsuits. In this case, however, quickly arranging to pay off the guys’s relatives might be to their advantage from a public relations perspective.

                  Stuff like this? Is one of the big reasons I was at home sleeping Friday morning. The potential for an incident like this has been apparent for some time now.

              • Uncle Fester says:

                The usual method for large corps who have a ‘no settle’ policy is to just leave you in court forever until you either run out of money or die.

      • Danbala says:

        THANK YOU, for asking that question, so I dinnae have to gooooogle it. :o D

      • Uncle Fester says:

        There’s a similar day in the UK, but it’s on the production side and tends to be in the food production (specifically baked goods and biscuits) sector. It’s usually the second Friday in December. Up until then most biscuit factories have been operating on last year’s Black Friday profit… Folks buying their ‘Biscuits for Cheese’, ‘Ritz Crackers’ etc for the festive season.

    • Kuromisa says:

      *kicks* Not you too! D:

    • Uncle Fester says:

      No, it’s just a Black Man… by the cheek bones, Tutsi… Hutus have rounder faces on the whole, and Twa, while superficially similar, seldom are involved in tribal conflicts, and are commonly very short in comparison to other Central African tribes…

      So, that gives lie to the idea that ‘they all look the same to whitey’

  15. Dave says:

    Is that Will Smith? (I know it’s not but that was my first impression. Like ‘I Am Legend’ just with a santa hat.)

  16. fibreoptik says:

    one of the crappiest PS jobs I have seen in a LONG time

  17. Santa says:

    Your mistletoe is no match for my T.O.W. missile!


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