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Ooh-ee ooh-ee ooh
Wah wah wah…
I hear that, too. But the “Wah wah wah” part’s been replaced by a catcall in my mind!
So Bush is Angel eyes? hmmmmmmmm………
HAHA, ya, that works. Thanks AC. I needed that chuckle.
But Obama’s not minging enough to be the-man-with-no-name-who-has-quite-a-lot-of-them-actually.
And people wonder why we will never give up the Bush is an idiot joke… Still funny though.
Because he isn’t getting any smarter.
I’d imagine in a contest of wits he’d leave Obama in a puddle of his own vomit and tears on the floor.
That’s a very good imagination you got there.
The quality of Obama’s wits is not really important in this measurement, because Bush has made it extremely clear over the last 8 years what his wits are like.
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In case you still don’t get it, I am saying that there is plenty of evidence to say Bush is one of the least intelligent presidents in history, and that his wit is unmatched (and I mean that in the worst possible way).
I suppose if you watch enough Keith Olbermann, that’s a believable position. Anyone who’s actually taken the time to learn something about Bush not covered in made-up 60 minutes stories knows better.
My 60 minutes is not hosted by Olbermann, and I don’t watch it anyway.
I formed my opinion based on seeing Bush ruin the world for 8 years.
Through the prism of people who have been spewing bile for those 8 years.
Do you find it impossible that someone could actually form a legitimate negative opinion about a man who has been so bad for your country and the entire world?
I think he’s had a brain injury, Pi, so I’d not be overly concerned…
“He” being B*sh, or Robert?
In this particular case, it hardly matters. Robert, having welded the tip of his tongue to Shrub’s mud-button, is showing more and more qualifications.
Ahh, yes, the genius liberal again resorts to name-calling when intelligent debate has bamboozled him!
Who are you calling ‘liberal’ you crypto-fascist?
Nope. Do you find it so hard to believe someone might not?
It’s only possible if you have the memory of a gnat…
I know there are people who legitimately still support Bush and consider him a good president. But these people tend to warmongers, Christian hyper-fundamentalists, people with the aforementioned memory problems, or various combinations thereof. If I’ve missed any legitimate supporters, please don’t hesitate to tell me what deficiency you have so I can add it to the list.
This man was a big part in making the world a more dangerous place, he was a (not insignificant) part of killing the world’s economies. He ignores international law, particularly the Geneva Conventions. And he has single-handedly destroyed the world’s opinion of the United States.
With due respect, you, collectively, were never universally beloved. before Bush II… but I’d agree, the exiting regime skated the body, screwed down the lid and then buried it under concrete…
Other than your incorrect use of the word “you”, because I am Australian, you are right that they weren’t loved, but they weren’t hated either.
Sorry, about the nationality thing… I’d forgotten
and I’d go with ‘disliked’…
Ummm…because not wearing a uniform, hiding behind civilians, strapping bombs to yourselves and blowing up markets, and the like, totally fall under the Geneva Convention, right?
The military are bound by the Geneva convention, I don’t think you’ll find ‘civillian combatants’ are.
However, I love the morality of two wrongs making a right… please enlighten us more of the moral superiority of becoming what you fight…
I suppose the point was, why aren’t those people hated 1/10th as much as the US military? All it takes is the allegation of torture, true or not, and it’s the end of the world, but blow up a school bus and you’re a “freedom fighter” who’s just misunderstood by the big bad world.
Basically, modern warfare is a lot like modern politics… a soap opera.
A bad, slightly wooden, day time soap.
When the ‘heroes’ behave ‘badly’ expect the people they’re representing to take to take a very dim view, and have an exaggerated reaction.
Abu Ghraib prison gave a good idea of what your (collective) children can do… it leaves a bad taste. No?
Honestly…no, not really. Blackwater blowing away civilian, on the other hand, infuriated me.
So you quite like torture of civilians then by your military?
I see… god help us if you ever get in a position of power… you’re ewell on your way to being a monster…
and while I have your attention… you’ve not answered the question on the huckabee lol as to why it’s full of fail…
Abu Ghraib wasn’t torture by any realistic standards. And sorry, but illegal combatants aren’t actually civilians anymore.
Ah, so we’re now saying that a stress posrture while someone thinks they’re going to be electrocuted if they let it down ‘isn’t torture’… I see
Nor general dehumanising behaviour…
Question – if this went on against US citizens, say in a prison in your state, then you’d be ok with that?
I think if you stop acting like a human being, you lose the right to be treated as one.
And the gentleman doesn’t understand how I feel about criminals, obviously. Oh, and get online, I’m sure you can find a number of games for entertainment where the loser(s) get electrocuted. For fun.
I can also find the Milgram experiment… but you’re simply a macho prick who’s never done a thing to dirty his own hands, aren’t you?
You think torturing someone makes for a good human being when tyhey come home? Then may your God have mercy on you, since some of the monsters created in your name will come home… and continue what they were told to do for the pleasure of it…
And no, I get exactly how you feel, Christian, you’re like a lot of your kind… a bellicose monster without a spine… praying to a tortured man god…
Welcome to Fester’s beneath contempt list… you’ve earned it.
Ummm….thanks? I guess. I’m about as far from macho as you can get. And once again, we don’t torture. The same tired allegations grow old. If there any evidence that military people have an increased instance of barbarity, I’d love to see it. Of course, it doesn’t exist. And, of course, I’m anything but bellicose. But, once again, you make broad stroke because you don’t understand anything about me, and have a template in your brain. It’s cool, enjoy your hypocrisy.
No, I’ll enjoy yours… and your words give lie to your lies… but thanks for proving my point.
The US has admitted to torture (see link in name).
And it says explicitly in the Geneva Conventions that you are obligated to follow it even if your opponent doesn’t.
Sleep deprivation, isolation, nudity, and insults to your mother are not torture, whether one old judge says so or not. Check the link. Next time you cite a source, make sure the story includes everything-like what was actually done to the little dear.
Did you not notice “leaving him in a life-threatening condition”?
This man, and likely others, were tortured.
-Sleep deprivation: borderline
-Isolation: Not torture
-Public nudity: borderline, depends on extent
-Prolonged exposure to cold: torture
-Insults to family members: not torture, but not going to accomplish anything either
-Being led on a leash like a dog: torture (what is this supposed to accomplich?)
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But don’t forget that these is just what happened to one guy. The UsS has already admitted to water boarding and other techniques which, until a few years ago, was considered torture. It still is considered torture by most of the world.
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What the US has done, is it has redefined torture, and you have accepted that redefinition.
According to your linked source, the little dear
will be prosecuted using only legally gathered
evidence. What’s your point?
*accomplish not accomplich
Sorry, above @Robert.
My point is that the US has been torturing people. Just because it is inadmissable in court doesn’t mean it is OK to do.
Again, my bad–Sorry!
whoops
As someone who hated the last 8 years, I am sorry to say that 12 years ago, Pres. Bush was eloquent, and obviously smart.
He has shown all the signs of early stages of senile dementia.
Every business he was involved with tanked though… although he seemed to get out just beofre it really imploded, usually with a golden handshake…
Yes, it’s such a terrible affliction, being allergic to stupidity. Terrible that Obama has such a strong reaction to it, he’ll get mighty dehydrated up in DC.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..Oh man….Thanks! I needed that laugh to get my day started!
In a puddle of BUSH’s own vomit? I thought he had stopped drinking…..
“I’d imagine in a contest of wits he’d leave Obama in a puddle of his own vomit and tears ”
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Yeah, in your imagination is right.
wut
Is his face stuck like that?
I giggled a little at this, even if it’s not super original.
clinton really looks like that all the time…
Horny?
Pretty much.
Seriously. No matter where the picture’s taken, he’s got that stupid ;D face.
i really like the type location… it works well with the phrasing…
Just now saw that… Good point.
It’s one of the first things that gave me the giggles. Lower… lower…
Clinton looks a bit retarded in that one!
He probably just had some girl preform “The Intern” on him.
Only 7 days until Barack saves us all and opens the gates to the Land of Milk and Honey. Yipee!
Ah, the high pitch whine of the O’Reilly fan… retard.
Interesting that you assume everyone that dislikes Democratic policies automatically agrees with someone like O’Reilly. I’m just excited that soon we’ll all have cheaper gas, higher incomes, unemployment will go away, war will end, and life will be the dream we all thought it could be.
No, I simply go with the rhetoric of the whining arse hole… find something original or take a big steaming cup of STFU while I taunt you…
How is your benighted child by the way?
Funny how each new one thinks s/he’s the first to come up with the
idea, and that we never catch on…
rhorho,
I know I’ll get reamed for thisn and that the “benighted child” comment wasn’t yours, but you’re kindness in the other post makes me want you to know that wasn’t me. I swear it on my children. And if you all wouldn’t mind, I’d just ask as one human being to others that you please just stop regarding my daughter. I’m a genuine person who wouldn’t hide behind another user name to leave trollery posts. I upset you all with my vehemence, and I’m sorry I did so. Please set your cynicism aside and leave her be.
Again, thank you for your consideration, and I’ll repost my real email address if you would like so you can contact me there.
Oops. *this
Darn fumble fingers/head … *your kindness
If it wasn’t you, then fine, I apologise… but you must admit, it sure SOUNDED like you…
And your child is only benighted by being raised in the intellectual environment where the kind of rhetoric you spout is not only commonplace, but expected… .
I live in hope that she can rise above the cramped, unoriginal, unpleasantness that passes for a home life…
I grew up in a catholic, conservative house with dad being an avid Rush fan. It CAN turn out all right. I just discovered one day I didn’t think like them and really never had. Clearly I’m no longer catholic nor conservative, and I must say, it feels great!
Oh yeah, child of a bible-thumping convervative here. It is absolutely possible to escape and think for one’s self. Though on the other hand, my own thinking as a young ‘un when the elders kept informing me of the existence of an invisible friend who had a plan, looked after us all and would take us into his home once we kicked it was “really? that doesn’t seem very likely”. So maybe you have to be born with your head on straight.
“dad being an avid Rush fan.”
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The mediocre band, or the radio blowhard?
It would be a tewwible curse if Dad were a fan of both…
Rush are awesome! To each their own and all, but calling Rush mediocre is just a roundabout way of saying ‘I have never and will never understand how instruments actually work. Oooh, pretty sounds!’
If you can’t rock out to ‘What You’re Doing’, you’re destined to wander through life bereft of any kind of joy.
(Yeah I know I’m giving the other Rush a run for his money in the blowhard stakes. I don’t care. Rush are THAT GOOD.)
And (addressing all the people who responded, not just Min) would you say that ‘benighted’ was a good description of the atmosphere around the world politic?
I think I missed something here…darn stomach flu. *shakes fist at germs*
Go to DWN’s spitball lol. All will be revealed. It was almost as much fun as she-who-must-not-be-mentioned-on-PK’s going away party.
Don’t forget about dogs and cats living together.
Interesting that you assume Obama’s policies are going to be characteristically Democratic. Have you not been paying attention? He’s already steering so hard for “Moderate” that many Democrats are going “wait, what?”
I suppose by “moderate” you mean “not flamingly socialist yet.” And what policies? He hasn’t done anything yet. Has everyone forgotten that part?
ah, the McCarthy use of the word ‘Socialist’… how very 1953 of you.
Policies: The things he said he would do when campaigning (taking into account that no politician has ever done everything they said they would), and the people he has decided to surround himself with when he becomes president less than a day from now.
Good pic, very unpartisan as all the politicians look creepy as all hell. Bush actually least so. Though the reminder of the last supper painting leads to some funny thoughts as well. On his right hand, on his left…
In the Last supper by Leonardo, John the Beloved is on the Right hand, and Peter on the left…
I’m not sure I see the significance…
They’re all worthless
don’t be silly, I’m sure there are salvageable parts, I’m not sure about hearts (existence or quality) or livers (I know in their places I’d have destroyed mine, and Bush, well….), but something must remain. And give Obama time, the order is they screw up, then tear them apart. It shouldn’t be too long, he has lots of opportunities
Lots of good body parts to used on them, even if the livers and hearts are messed up. Skin, kidneys, tendons, bone, lenses, corneas, lungs (except for Obama on the lungs). So even the biggest jerk can save lives and quality of
life! Recycling at its finest!
“Old people don’t need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.”
–Homer J. Simpson
he’s already screwing up. Everyone around him is involved in some kind of corruption or other scandals. Hell, he’s quickly backing out on many of his campaign promises, and I knew he would. Anyone who really entertained the notion that Obama was really going to give us something to really hope for or a really good change in this country is extremely dillusional.
Spelling Fail. It’s Delusional.
I found it refreshing to watch a recording of a press conference where the President actually addressed the members of the press by given name, and affiliation, rather than derogatory nicknames that dismiss the seriousness of the issue before the question was even asked.
They say there is usually a moment of sapience towards the end…
Oops. Terminology fail.
The President-elect was addressing members of the press by name. Our current president still calls on reporters using pet names like “Stretch”, “Big Country” and “Action Jackson” instead of their given names. [Link]
LOL–I thought I had missed a press conference in which Bush
made *sense* … Silly me!
Quite honestly, that would make me run for a bomb shelter or something. That’s definitely a sign of the Apocalypse.
Indeed. That would have been a cataclysmic event. But as I mentioned, it was nice to see EVERYONE in the room both acting like, and being treated as professionals.
I’m sorry I missed it. It must have been such a nice change to see someone actually taking the job seriously. I’ve never seen something like that, myself–I was in fifth grade when Bush was elected and accepted my parents’ opinion that he was the best president in the world for a long time. Then I grew up and discovered that I was actually quite fond of my civil rights.
As the saying goes: If you ignore your civil rights long enough, they’ll go away.
[Link for Daily Show LoLs]
I couldn’t find the actual press conference video, but it was the one outlining the economic stimulus package. I didn’t spend much time looking, but I DID find a clip from the Daily Show where John Stewart makes some pretty good LoLs comparing the two men and how they treat the press.
(Even conservatives with a sense of humor should enjoy this)
Thank You!! Those were both funny, and that
Daily Show was the one I missed!
*is bursting with pride for Kuromisa* They grow up so fast! *sniffs*
He made lots of sense at this last one. He made it clear in no uncertain terms that he’s an obsequious, intransigent, irreverent, self-righteous, arrogant, worthless prick with delusions of Godhood.
Hey. Those are my best features!
I watched part of the program where Mr. Stephanopolous [sp?] interviewed PE Obama. My first thought was how nice it was to have a President that sounded intelligent and non-hysterical. My second thought was how sad it was that this was no longer a given in the U.S.
“Everyone around him is involved in some kind of corruption or other scandals.”
Everyone? Let’s see, I count:
Bill Richardson
Blagohevitch (not in the Obama administration, but still “around him”)
Hmm, that seems to be the whole list. You must come from a very small town for “2″ to equal “everyone”.
Okay, okay, there’s probably one or two more that I don’t know about, but that’s still not “everyone”.
In that case, we need to add Tom DeLay, Phil Gramm and the rest of
the corrupt Texas politicians to Bush’s List. I’m going to need a better
data base…
Or a bigger boat.
*Jaws Theme*
Ted Stevens comes to mind. I’m pretty sure he’s a convicted felon now, and I think you would be hard pressed to make a claim that he is “around” Obama.
So, if Blagojevitch (Governor) is proof that Obama (Senator) must be corrupt, then does corruption follow the commutative power of addition? For instance, does that also indicate that Stevens (Senator) being corrupt must mean the same is true for Palin (Governor)?
Yes, and also the governor she replaced, with her anti-
corruption campaign…
If I counted on McCain for anything and he decided to back down on them, I’d be playing the violin on my arm with the nearest sharp object.
Wow. The Bush years must have left an interesting record of marks upon your skin in that case.
If you eliminated everyone in American politics who’d not been involved in corruption, scandal or something, then he’d be running the place on his own…
Not really fair to call out the one who hasn’t had his chance yet, now is it?
As for Bush and Clinton, while I disagree with you on one of them (I’m sure you can guess which), have at.
((I could do without his wife, though, and that goes for both of them!))
you obviously don’t pay attention
How much do clothes cost in the Matrix?
Isn’t it a little early to label Obama as “The good” ?
Maybe we should wait a year or two…
I would choose Bush over Obama after the SPREAD THE WEALTH comment!
…because that automatically qualifies him as a socialist? Wow. Your logic is flawless – and undeniably cunning to boot. I mean, I’m in utter aw and disbelief at the interminable reasoning you’ve presented to back up such a downright ingenius statement. Bravo to you, bravo.
Okay then? I am not sure if I should take that as an insult or a complement. If you voted for Obama that’s fine with me. I am not trying to get people to hate him or anything, it was just an opinion… And, I never said that he isn’t or can’t be a good person! Who knows? He could be way different then what some people expected. If anybody asks, I refuse to say who I voted for. (yes, I am old enough to vote) XP
If you are being sarcastic, it isn’t hiding anything! And shut up anyway, Unknown is my friend.
Thanks, Jam Jar. If Alex was being sarcastic or not, it doesn’t matter. An opinion is different from a fact…
Obama’s like a jar-empty, until you fill him with the things you believe in! And then, he can convince you that you agree with him! Neat, huh?
OK, then, tell me what Obama’s policies are? Please. Name one specific thing he’s planning on doing. The man ran on “Hope n’ Change” without any specifics to back it up.
One that I agree with: He plans to increase taxes on the rich and decrease taxes for the poor.
Ones that I disagree with: He supports capital punishment and the second amendment.
The poor don’t pay freaking taxes!
And supports the second amendment? Good lord, have you seen his Illisnois voting record? That’s what I mean by empty jar. Or blank canvas, if you prefer.
The poor don’t pay taxes? I’m sure they’d be surprised to hear that…
Have they been told that?
He’s referring to the fact that under a certain income level, you get basically everything back as a tax refund. What he’s neglecting to mention is that anyone who is employed and not paid in cash or is self employed pays SS taxes and other taxes that aren’t paid back. ‘Paying taxes’ isn’t always what it seems.
That’s true. How about this, “the poor don’t pay income taxes.” If we really wanted a “fair” tax system, a tax on consumption (ie, national sales tax) is a much better system, and scoops up people with names like Kennedy or Hilton wo don’t have an “income” per se, but still have a ton of money kicking around.
So, they pay tax… the govt holds their money, then pays them back
Do the poor get interest on this? The Govt certainly earns money on what it holds…
@Robert: You don’t have a savings account?
Trust fund and investment dividends are taxed
as income, as is interest earned on savings,
FYI.
His accountant handles that sort of thing… mostly by offshoring…
No–You heard wrong. His mom swims *from*
the shore toward the ships, but she swims
back home later…
I think you’ll find that’s my mother… usually the boat is on fire ans sinking, and she’ll be sporting a new ear necklace… Last I heard she’s
working with the Chinese to ‘resolve’ their contre temps with the Somali Pirates…
Yes, I do have a savings account, but it’s not taxed at the same rate. and Fester, you have to decide if I’m a syphilis addled 12 year old or some sort of wheeler-dealer with money to burn. I’m neither. And, no, I don’t get any interest on the money the government borrows from me over the course of the year when I get my tax return back. Which is stupid. But that’s a debate for a different time.
No, I’m just mocking you… it’s what you’re for.
Ok, first of all, everyone pays taxes of some kind. Even those living on public assistance or handouts from suckers on the street pay sales tax on what they purchase with their income. Most of the rest of the poor pay a lot more — payroll taxes (FICA); license fees (driver’s license, car tags), etc.
In addition, income tax rates in the US go into the negative, so theoretically you can “reduce” taxation on the working poor by increasing the amount you are paying them in refundable tax credits.
Depends on your definition of poor. So yes, the poor do pay taxes.
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And Obama publicly sated that he supports the second amendment. Perhaps he he wants to prevent the clinically insane and criminally homicidal from getting guns, but he will not prevent the general populace from maintaining their constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Also note, how I oppose him on this point. I think access to guns should be very restricted, that they shouldn’t be used for home defence.
He supports the Second Amendment because you can’t get elected if you don’t. I don’t believe he personally thinks its a good idea.
But we really have no idea… it’s like you can’t get elected if you’re not at least pretending to be religious, and preferably Christian.
I agree. I’m not sure and I’d have to go back over his voting record, but I believe that he’s voted for gun restrictions in the past (during one of his 143 days in the Senate), and has also lobbied (used loosely) against guns in the state senate in Illinois. Just going off ideology alone, someone as far to the left as he is (comparatively speaking) doesn’t agree with people having guns anymore than a fundy thinks that women should be allowed to have abortions.
I confess, I’m with Gore Vidal on this one…
Having said that… saying what you’re going to do, before you have all the information available is rash at best.
Not even a convincing sock puppet…
Yeah…they hit pretty much every point on the checklist, didn’t they? That takes concentration.
Hey, you need to shut up because Unknown is his friend.
His logic is undeniable: We must obey forthwith!
And YOU need to shut up because Uncle Fester is MY… Oh, um, never mind. Carry on then.
O_o…
Oh my, more to add to my report to His Cruelty…
Thank you, rhorho!
Jam Jar thanks you too! : )
You and your pretend friend have comprehension fail.
Maybe your mom should buy you a *real* puppet, so you
might learn something. Toilet Training Elmo is on sale…
Hey! Toilet-training Elmo is my friend! Leave him the hell alone!
On second thoughts, he hasn’t helped toilet-train my little lad at all. Nope, you can have at him…
*grumbles as another poo’d-up nappy is in evidence…*
So you based your vote from one single comment?
I’m glad to see people making intelligent, informed decisions rather than making knee-jerk reactions to things they don’t even understand.
Anyone who believes that a single man has the power to eliminate Democracy and turn the United States into a Socialist country is a moron.
You need a VP with a BIIG team of lawyers who knows where the bodies were buried since Ford’s time…
“Anyone who believes that a single man has the power to eliminate Democracy and turn the United States into a Socialist country is a moron.”
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Well, b*sh came pretty close to eliminating democracy and turning the U.S. into a corpocracy/theocracy, but he couldn’t really be considered to be doing that single-handedly, since he was pretty much a puppet.
I agree. Shrub handled most of the theocracy effort, but Cheney was a
key player in the Halliburton oligarchy effort.
Are you saying that socialism excludes democracy?
Unless it’s you he’s spreading the wealth to… retard.
and I think that Nationalising the banks is pretty much a socialist act, when actually laissez faire economics states ‘you screw the pooch, it’s your fault, deal.’
I was going to bring that up, but I wasn’t sure he could connect the dots between the economic bailout and nationalization of financial institutions.
People just love to use the word “socialism” because it’s a “scary” word that triggers the knee-jerk reactions of the uninformed.
TBH, your even your ‘well informed’ American has, on average, only a McCarthy view of Socialism…
Hey now, not true in my case at least. Certainly not in Seth’s!!
but you’re above average honey.
Enthusiastically seconded.
You saying Seth is ‘average’?
I don’t think there’s a word in English for the kind of fighitng talk that is… Vendetta? No. Jihad? No. I think there may be something in Klingon…
The word you’re searching for is ‘kanly’
She said “not true” in her case, and “certainly not in Seth’s.”
That’s not calling Seth average, imo.
I’m not a retard you tree hugger!
Yea really, stop picking on her, Uncle Fester! Unknown isn’t a retard, and she just has a different opinion about Obama then you! So, shut up, leave my friend alone, and try to just stop attacking people if they have a different opinion. It is called America, my friend, not “Uncle Fester Land”. Ok, I will admit it, I voted for Mc Cain. I kinda regret it now but that isn’t the point.
I didn’t even say if I voted for anybody or not. I don’t know why everybody is going so crazy about who likes or dislikes Obama!
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You didn’t vote?
No! I don’t know why people attack me just because I have a different opinion about somebody… I never said I actually hated Obama anyway!! WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE CALLING ME A RETARD FOR?! Sheesh! Nobody gets it anymore. I’m not old enough to vote anyway so, I wouldn’t have been able to vote for anybody even if I wanted to. 3 more weeks. In a way I like Obama. I just didn’t like that comment, but he did clean up before the actual election…
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Jane, do you have any of that Troll Spray left? Someone left out a sock and we need to spray it down before it stinks up PK any worse.
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I mean, really. You’re going to forget to switch names one of these posts and it will become obvious that you’re the same person.
Yea yea yea… Mind your own beeswax!
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Jam Jar is my friend. I have seen people start conversations on this site before (made up of comments FYI) The only way you will prove it is if I actually wanted to type in somebody’s name. I can type in anybody’s name and it will look like that person commented about something, anybody can do that. I don’t know why people think of things then just have to expect it to be whatever they were thinking of.
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Teh gibberish…..it makeses my headses hurtses…….*dies*
Not old enough to vote makes this situation a bit less flabbergasting. I was going to put the age of ‘Unknown’ and ‘Jam Jar’ at around 11.
Some advice that I mean to be kindly: if you’re going to get so upset when someone contradicts you or calls you a name, PK may not be the place to share your thoughts. Such discourse is very commonplace here, and generally considered to be fun.
I don’t mind people disagreeing. I just don’t see how flinging names around really advances one’s arguments. But, fair’s fair, and now that I know the rules I promise I’ll play by them.
I think you’ll find we’re mostly polite when people don’t come in with stuff that even right wing loons debunk themselves, and have done for months…
Because you are one… and they never matched my DNA to the sample found in that greased knot hole, so I’d thank you to keep accusations of arborphilia to yourself and your sock puppets.
Arborphilia… nice. That’s… sweet. Have you copyrighted this one? I wants…
Feel free to quote me…
Yeah, and I hate the nationalization of banks, too. I’m sorry, did you have a point, or are you just pulling out whatever you can because name-calling didn’t work either?
Oh, the anme calling worked since you’re referencing it… you’re still only babbling though… and still making points that fire spitting right wingers think are fence post dumb…
You rang?
The current occupant spread the wealth also, but it was to the corporations and the richest 1% at the expense of the rest of us.
who were offshoring production as fast as they could to gain ever larger profits, at the expense of the local work force… but then, that was the working stiff’s fault in that they wanted to be able to do things like ‘eat’ and ‘wear shoes’…
Bush: Take money from all of us (i.e. the working class), redistribute to CEOs and other mega-rich people
Obama: Take money from CEOs and other mega-rich people, redistribute to the working class.
Hmm, which one do I want? I dunno, it’s so hard to think…
A bit premature calling Obama “The Good” don’t you think?
Well, he’s “The Good” at least relatively speaking, because anyONE or anyTHING would be an improvement over b*sh, and it’s unlikely he’s “The Horny” compared with Clinton, because he’d have died of exhaustion, so there you go.
If I had to guess, I’d say he’d be a combination of Carter and Hoover, with a touch of FDR thrown in for giggles.
Hahah, Tessie I love how you censored the word Bush as if it was too foul for you to even type. That gave me a chuckle.
He doesn’t deserve a capital letter.
@Steve
@Tessie
If you’re not familiar, Molly Ivins was a good ol’ gal from Texas, and
one of my favorite heroines, a la Ann Richards.
[LINK]
In case you miss it in the article, Molly was fond of calling him
“shrub,” and likened him to a “post turtle.” [LINK]
Dang, I miss reading new Molly Ivins’ stuff!
No, it’s unlikely Obama is The Horny compared to Clinton because Michelle would BEAT his ass!
…unless she’s the one he’s horny with? Those two little angels weren’t
likely delivered by stork, ya noes…
And, as has already been proven on here, there are naughty nurses involved.
Agreed. We don’t know for sure yet.
we don’t know for sure, but there were only three places, so we stuck him in and hoped for a self fullfilling prophesy on this one
oh lawd. I lol’d.
Clinton has a gigide gee look on his face
Giggity-giggity … LOL! It’s a Quagmire!
Obama should be the bad and Bush should be the good
This puts you in a rather small minority, since even most conservatives are jumping off the Bush ship.
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That’s because it’s easy to say “I hate Bush” when everyone else does. It’s a lot harder to say “I think overall Bush has been a good president, but I haven’t agreed with everyone.” That takes a half ounce of intellectual honesty, which seems to be in short supply of late.
It is still the majority that disagree. Particularly internationally, but I doubt you care about that.
If we’re soooo unpopular internationally, why did both Germany and France kick out their anti-America, anti-Bush leaders in favor of pro-America conservatives?
Because they like the tax breaks, you moron… to think that a ‘pro-American ‘ stance means much to the average European, then you don’t know Europeans…
Wow, throwing the names around now! The mark of an expert debater! I’d imagine, to the average European, pro-American means they won’t have to clean up their own messes, they’ll just let Americans do it. So, that’s easy.
Once upon a time, Americans liked tax cuts, too. Maybe after a few years of European socialism we’ll go back to that. *sigh*
Let me see, Robert. In what way are you more likely to be qualified to talk about a European perspective that Fester? As one of the many resident foreign devils here, I’d back Fester’s call – and add my own to that pile. I live in a country that has a lot of time for the United States, but where most people can’t wait to see the back of Bush. That hardly makes us anti-American, but most people I know (including a couple of soldiers) are by no means thrilled that Bush’s (NOT the American people’s) policy has landed us in two wars a very long way from home.
I wonder, does Robert even KNOW anyone from Europe? I would say not. And my relatives in Europe are not anti-American. But they are vehemently anti-B*sh, and anti- to his policies as well.
I’m sure he doesn’t know anyone from Europe, but some of his best friends are black.
Aw man! I need a screen-wipe again!
That’s only because he ran out of white socks.
Frou… behind my name…
Thanks for the good laugh.
I actually never said I was more qualified to talk about the European perspective.
No, but you established you are positively UN-qualified.
Word to the lot of you… A dislike of US interventionism is one of the few truly unifying things in the EU.
The French don’t like the Brits or anyone they have a common border with.
The Belgians don’t like the Brits or anyone they have a common border with, with the added fun of a Flemish and the Waloons.
The Netherlands don’t much like the Belgians, or the Germans and think all other Europeans are mad…
and so it goes…
You get a Frenchman, a German, a Brit, and a Spaniard into a room, and you want them to team build, the general ineptitude, arrogance etc of the American organisation is a good place to start… we all have stories, and once you’ve stripped your sleeve and shown your scars you’re well on the way to having a good working team…
The idea that America mops up other people’s mess is a myth… you were well paid to join in the War in Europe, if Kennedy hadn’t made a hobby of SE Asian politics and got a grade he didn’t like for his degree dissertation then I doubt the mess that was Veitnam would have happened… shame blowing the pox ridden bog mad idiot’s head off didn’t stop that war, but it didn’t…
And then it just gets worse… Kissinger’s machinations in South America,
Zbigniew Brzezinski’s similar ones in the Middle East, the Iran contra shenanigans of Reagan/Bush… the list goes on to the current Iraqi adventure and the restarting of the Afghan opium trade following ‘Mission Accomplished’ suddenly it becomes clear that the US turning up means that thing will go from bad to worse in short order a lot of the time…
I don’t really know if Kennedy should bear the brunt for Viet Nam, truth be told. I think that was more an LBJ thing. Which is why I reeeeeally hope no one takes out Obama. Then we have Biden, who’s a few crackers short of a package. i mean, he told a wheelchair bound man to stand up @ a campaign rally. Not exactly the mark of a genius.
LBJ wasn’t a genius, but he really didn’t want Vietnam, and simply carried forward the plans laid by Kennedy… he simply couldn’t see a way out without seeming to wimp.. which really what was needed from the out set… not taking over a French balls up…
Perhaps…there is some question as to whether or not the Gulf of Tonkin incident was everything it was portrayed as, though.
There’s always that sort of question. Based on currently available information, it probably was…
No wonder we kicked the British ass*s out of our country.
If the British had been serious about sorting the American problem , they’d have put anyone but the fourth Earl of Sandwich on the job.
Sandwich never even left the country… in fact, he barely left the gaming table.
Because of their stated policies, not because of what they think about Bush.
A poll was taken by Reader’s Digest of people’s opinions around the world regarding Bush, the US, and the (then upcoming) 2008 election. See my name for the results.
“bush is bad” “bush is good” “bush is good, but i’m not just saying that cause other people are”
none of these sound particularly intelligent to be honest.
Oh, perhaps you misunderstand…I’ve been frequently pissed at Bush for some of his policies. But, I can also be intellectually honest about the difference between my opinion of some policies versus how I feel about the man’s character and his other policies. And you better believe that if Obama starts putting out moderate or conservative policies, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong. I don’t really expect it, but hell, miracles happen.
Based on your knowledge of Europeans, I’d not trust you to be able to use a toilet…
Wow…another genius comment. And people call me a troll…
Oh, and it’s really easy. Lift the seat, unzip your pants, remove the gear, let fly, put yourself back in your pants, push down on the shiny silver handle, close the lid, and wash your hands. Don’t forget to use soap.
FYI, most European toilets don’t have the shiny silver handle any more. now it is ‘big flush’ versus ‘little flush’ buttons on the lid. Just in case you ever get out of the states…
Last time I saw one of those shiny handles was a dolls-house dunny – and even then little Gracie asked me what it was.
Ever seen the old-style pull chain dangling from a wall-hung toilet tank? That really blew my mind, when I was visiting an elderly relative in Europe!
They were around a lot in school toilets in the seventies here, hence the old playground joke: “Confucius say, ‘Swinging chain mean warm seat!’”
*snicker*
You’re 12, aren’t you?
Trust me, Robert. I’m REALLY far left (by American standards) Dennis Kucinich is to the right of me. Obama is a moderate. I’m guessing you didn’t see his Columbia Law school adviser on the Daily Show? He thought Obama was
a Republican when they first met. One guess as to who Obama’s favorite president was back then. Give up? Reagan. Obama is a moderate. Probably more moderate than Clinton, even. I’d start boiling that crow right now if I were you, but we’ll see.
At least we can agree on that part. We shall see, indeed.
and Black is white, warm is cold, and…Hey You! Drink ther Koolaid !!!!!! NOW!!!
Bush is my least favorite president of my lifetime. (I was born when Reagan took office)
That said, I think he has done some positive things in his two terms. Unfortunately the negatives far outweigh those positives, in my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I’m sure people who don’t care about civil liberties think Bush is a fine president!
I’m sorry, how have Bush’s policies affected your civil liberties? Don’t spout that tired drivel about “spying on Americans” because it’s not true and it makes my head hurt.
Actually, he has spied on all Americans… somehow, I think you’re not reading the same stuff the rest of the planet is, or you have Gotham and Metropolis on the eastern seaboard of your universe’s USA,,,
No, he hasn’t. He’s intercepted calls to and from known terrorist countries that have been routed through the US because we have the largest telecom infrastructure.
That is just stupid. Absolutely stupid. NO international calls between non-US countries go through the US. NONE. We have a great telecommunications infrastructure, but the undersea cables have limited capacity and what you just said makes no economic sense. You truly are a moron. Why anyone still bothers to argue with you boggles the mind. All those calls were to or from US citizens.
Yeah, right… do you tweak or use oxycotin?
More personal attacks from the troll. I don’t have the energy to deal with all of them.
I think you’ll find that, since there’s no content to your posts, mockery is all you’ll get… look on the birght side, at least someone is taking notice of your empty, pointless, bitter, ill informed, nonsense
So you think I’m just engaging in a little herd mentality by not liking Bush? It’s not possible that I’ve judged his policies and found them embarassingly bad? You don’t think that getting a government with a budgetary surplus, and turning that into record deficits might be bad? How about dragging our collective Names through the mud by starting a war of choice, and then torturing the people we were supposed to liberate? How about- oh cheez, I just don’t have the time. I *MUTE* you.
Oh, so much…well, don’t think I’m not irritated about a lot of the spending issues, but in order to rebuild the military and our intelligence infrastructure, that costs money. The only reason Clinton had a budget surplus is because he had a Republican congress back when they were actually governing as conservatives and not diet democrats. Finally, let’s pretend I agree with your argument that we’re torturing terrorists. I don’t, but that’s OK. According to you, we’d be torturing Iraqis, which is silly, because most of the terrorists that we’ve scooped up in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iraq are from countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria.
Clinton had a budget surplus despite the Republican congress, not because of it. Read something other than right wing blogs. We have tortured Iraqis, including the underage boy who was picked up because other people who were tortured gave his name, not like anyone else could have the same name. He’s been in Guantanamo for 1/3 of his life. And we have spied on Americans, including so called ‘dissident’ groups that have nothing to do with terrorism. But obviously, you are one of those people who simply believes what you want to believe and won’t let facts stand in your way. Just don’t think that your lies will convince anyone but yourself.
Perhaps if you got your news from somewhere other than the Daily Kos, you’d know better than that. Oh, well.
Ah, the Kos defence… useless against our Seth since he’s probably the most anally retentive, equal handed, researcher I know…
All the Kos accusation proves is that you’re on your back foot… and a moron.
Well, you’ve been doing nothing but calling names for that last several posts, which means you’ve been on your last foot for a while now…and since Seth resorted to the old “you’re a liar” whine, I’d imagine so is he.
You really are quite the entertaining troll… Tell me, do they know you hacve access to a computer? I’d hate to think you’d injured one of the guards in the home…
To claim
would take a lot more intellectual dishonesty…
intellectual???
OK, just plain lying… happy now?
(people just won’t let me be nice…)
Not letting you be nice?! Wow.
The troll speaks… it’s like having one’s slightly dull 12 year old neighbour visiting…
OK, now I’m confused….
Understatement of the year.
It’s also easy to say “the moon is made of green cheese”, and equally as erroneous.
Holy crap. Good president. He was the worst president in American history. Plus, he’s a moron.
“The moon is made of green cheese.”
Of course that’s erroneus -it’s made of marzipan!
Mmmmmmmmm, marzipan. When’s the next moon mission?
He’s not a moron, no matter how many times you say it. And no, Carter was the worst president. Easily provable. And in the first six months of the Obama administration, when there’s another terrorist attack, we’ll see how he reacts.
Carter was the worst president? By what measure? And I’m sorry, but Bush really is a moron. “put food on your family?” “make the pie higher?” Come on, only a moron says those things. You and the three other Americans who still defend the guy should form a support group or something.
As far as the verbal mis-speaks are concerned, I’ve said my piece on that
I don’t think that those themselves mark him as a moron, rather, the opposite is true. He’s done other boneheaded things that make him a moron, though.
On another thread, two possibilities were discussed, covering
“Bushisms.” One was “Dry Drunk Syndrome,” and the other
was a form of pre-Alzheimer’s, IIRC. As you know, Bush’s
speech problems pale by comparison to his record on false
intelligence reporting, Geneva convention violations, civil rights
violations, and other outrages.
Were you sparing Robert’s feelings?
How about the misery index and gas lines?
Robert… when even Frou, the right wing nut, implies you’re a moron… then you’re a moron. Deal.
True dat, Brother Unc!
And I’m not implying he’s a nut. I’m flat out saying it. He’s too far to the right to be able to see that Conservatism isn’t the end-all fix. Neither is Liberalism, but that’s a different argument.
I didn’t presume to say what you ‘meant’… not even I am that foolish…
Well, just so we’re clear, I’m saying forthwith that Robert is a nut. Even by my standards. N-U-T-NUT. And apparently an unsavable nut, so let’s roast him over an open fire and sing Christmas songs.
I got that… I was just saying that I’d not try to tell you what you thought unless we were in a head to head… and then I’d quote ya…
So not hating Bush makes me a nut…OK, then.
Success! (well, as much as we can hope to get)
It has nothing to do with your non-hatred of Bush, I don’t hate Bush. You’re nut status comes from the fact that you can’t hold an intelligent conversation, run and hide when something is put forth that you can’t refute, and have provided no cites for anything that you have said.
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Now, come back with some proof for your arguments, and then your status will be upgraded to ‘Dumb@ss troll’ for fighting with people who are better informed than you are instead of ”@sshat troll” because you can’t back anything up.
I hold an intelligent conversation just fine. It’s not me who resorted to name calling. And I haven’t run and hid at all. Here I am. I do get tired of responding to all the name calling, though. And, what, I’m expected to put a link in every post I make? Is that the standard around here? Done.
Check the link for the report on the New Deal. UCLA report-not exactly a bastion of conservative thought.
Being in the minority here as a conservative republican, yes, you have to cite almost everything you say. Using a study from the UCLA is a good start. You certainly don’t want to use a right wing blog, Rush, or anything known for being right wing as proof.
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Now, once you can quit posting and running before it’s hashed out, we’ll rethink your label. You tend to troll-post and then go to a different subject before you explain yourself.
Oh you can site right wing sources that cite something better than blogs and rush…
Problem with many right wingers, anything that is a-political (for instance me) becomes ‘liberal media’… it’s like crying ‘heretic’ or ‘unitarian’ on a Christian site… means nothing beyond ‘I don’t want to hear it’
But Robert is more or less spouting stuff no self respecting right-winger can support…
It’s not just that, he’s spouting talking points taken directly from Rush Limbaugh and no where else. Now, Rush has news articles and ‘left-wing’ media sources that he gets his material from, but he takes that material and puts a decidedly right wing spin (read whirling dervish) to his interpretation of what it says. Robert isn’t quoting the articles that Rush gets his stuff from, as I sometimes do, he’s actually quoting Rush himself, which is the same as throwing water at a hurricane and expecting it to stop raining. Robert needs to learn how to back up his stuff better.
Large steaming cup of STFU would be good…
If he can play nice, I’ll play nice back. Until then, I’m in your camp throwing rocks at the troll and laughing when he whines about being hit.
It is the end of days…
*lobs rock at Robert*
But let’s enjoy the moment…
Muh? It’s a lot harder to say “I think overall Bush has been a good president, but I haven’t agreed with everyone” because that is so astoundingly not true that my head would burst into a fine pink mist before I got through the first ten syllables.
Will the dead-enders who still think Bush was a great president please all move to one state and fncking SECEDE already?
They’re already in the state of denial. What more do you expect?
I agree with you. Not everyone has the same standards of good and bad. Bush has been a good president in my opinion, because of his capitalism and his ass-kicking foreign policy. Obama is going to be socialist (argue the semantics however you want; he’s going to implement spending programs based on taxing the wealth of the wealthy, and that’s socialist to me) and he’s going to care more, or at least as much, about what other countries want than what we want.
Why on Earth would you want everyone else to hate you? No person in the US have ever damaged the United States’ reputation more than George W Bush. And if everybody hates you, then they would be far less inclined to help in any future wars, and depending on justification, more likely to assist in the defence of your enemies.
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And the US has been taxing the wealthy more than the poor ever since income tax was introduced. Even Bush’s tax rates were progressive taxes.
A quote from Adam Smith addresses both points:
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“But man has almost constant occasion for the help of his brethren, and it is in vain for him to expect it from their benevolence only. He will be more likely to prevail if he can interest their self-love in his favour, and shew them that it is for their own advantage to do for him what he requires of them. Whoever offers to another a bargain of any kind, proposes to do this. Give me that which I want, and you shall have this which you want, is the meaning of every such offer; and it is in this manner that we obtain from one another the far greater part of those good offices which we stand in need of. It is not from the benevolence of the butcher the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity, but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages.”
Which only supports why Bush is an idiot. If he makes other countries hate us, then they lost self interest in helping us…
The point is that it doesn’t matter if they love you or hate you, if they have to engage with you economically.
So when we ruin our economy and they still hate us, how is that self interest?
Because we haven’t ruined our economy. We’ve allowed the bad parts to collapse. Now Obama’s going to come along and bail them out.
that only works to a certain extent. if you’ve got an old bridge you can let one beam rot away and say “that was just the bad part, we can fix it and the bridge will be better” but you can not let many of the beams rot away and collapse and expect the structure to stay standing.
What people in here seem to be missing is the fact that it wasn’t just termites that eroded those bridge timbers, it was also rain, mold, decomposition, and other things. You can’t blame one thing (or one party) for the erosion that has been happening, nor can you blame the last person who walked over the bridge for the collapse of said bridge. Now, maybe that last person was carrying WAY too much stuff and overloaded it, but he wasn’t the original cause.
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We’re looking at the problems in the economy, government, infrastructure (whatever that is), and everything else far too simplistically. One party is not all to blame.
Woah…that was astoundingly honest for the Pundit Kitchen. I salute you, sir!
No, I’d agree… an ideology is to blame and at the first sniff of te article of faith crumbling to dust the ‘capitalists’ suddenly become drooling communists and nationalise everything… either Laissez faire capitalism works or it doesn’t, currently it seems no one has the guts to put their money where their rhetoric is…
If there was an ounce of intellectual honesty in the economical politics fraterinty, then the Beta versus VHS battle should have proved that everything we ‘knew’ about economics was bollocks… however, there is only the articles of faith and bones of saints that count… and let the reality go hang… while ever they cling to the idea that old models work, we’re talking juju and voodoo…
I’m not talking about the infrastructure; I’m talking about companies that are earning their money versus companies that are just pushing around figures. Junk the regulations and the latter die while the former survive. But they don’t want *any* companies to die since then people lose their jobs. Wel, to hell with them. Let GM and Chrysler close down and Ford and Toyota monopolize the entire car business.
It is letting things go on their course that creates economic depressions.
The Great Depression lasted four years in the US and was broken by the New Deal. Europe had similar initiatives that got them out.
Australia didn’t have any New Deal, we had economic conservatism. Our Great Depression lasted until 1939, by which stage the US had already dropped into and out of its next recession.
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Capitalism works, but it is horrible for society if followed purely.
Oh, sweet Jesus. If you actually believe the New Deal ended the depression, you’re really thick. What ended the Great Depression was World War II. What extended the depression was deficit spending and policies that squelched free markets. Besides, it was buying on credit and protectionism that created the Depression in the first place, not some sort of unrestricted free market.
Ah, the ‘free market’… the thing that fails every time it’s tried…
Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different out come.
you’re either somehow at a dijoint form reality, or insane… the result is the same
Click my name for a graph of US employment at the time and explain to me how the New Deal wasn’t working, exactly? And that little downturn in 1937? Yeah, that was Republicans screwing things up as usual. The war was clearly not the thing that ended the depression. Revisionist history, and the idea that a lie repeated loudly and often enough, that might be a good strategy with some people, but I doubt you’ll find any takers for your BS here.
@Robert: So you agree that your BFF Bush
was wrong to put the war on the national
credit card?
As stated, Australia didn’t have anything like the New Deal at that time, we had conservative economics. Our Great Depression lasted a consistent 10 years.
The US had the New Deal, and your Great Depression was largely over in 1934, but was followed by a much less serious recession in 1937.
Let me get this straight, because I’m a little confused, Robert.
You have no problem at all with very large amounts of people suddenly becoming unemployed through no fault of their own (I may be wrong, but I presume that you’ll see them as a drain on the public purse if they yell for help)?
You have no problem with the notion of a good world-wide war curing economic downturns?
If other countries start to get upset at your policies, it’s a good indicator of the policies’ worth?
Ooookay… yeah, you’ll miss Bush. That’s your right. Please don’t expect sympathy on that, though.
In Robert’s world, you can make pie filling from the unemployed
I can’t reply to any of those…OK, in order-Government employment doesn’t mean the economy’s good, I’m not gonna miss Bush, I just don’t have irrational hatred from him, Bush has kept employment low, rebuilding the military after Clinton narfed it is acceptable spending, bailing out people who acted irresponsibly with their money is not. And any country is going to dislike policies that prevent them from taking a bigger slice of the pie…I don’t begrudge anyone that.
I assume that “rebuilding the military after
Clinton narfed it is acceptable spending” is
your reply to me. If that’s the case, you
consider waging an unjustified war to be the
equivalent of rebuilding the military.
Egads! You’re too full of fail for comment!
I hope they up your meds soon. You seem
to have developed an alarming tolerance to
“Kook-Aid.”
Kept employment low is a virtue? I see…
Oh sweet lord…stupid wraparound. I’m sorry, kept unemployment low.
I think you’ll find that was done by Bush…
but then, we all know you’re dumb… must be the years of chemical abuse…
Steroids and Kool-Aid ain’t no lime and coconut,
truly!
From a purely economical standpoint, you might be right, but the world is not just about money.
Don’t expect any help in wars unjustly started, and expect more enemies. By making the world hate you, you endanger yourself.
It’s all the same if no potential enemy can afford to attack us because they will ruin their economy or bring down the wrath of our military upon them. I don’t want allies who are allies because we play nice and have a mutual admiration society; I want those who have material interests in common with my country: love of freedom, and of justice, and of prosperity under those.
China is a rapidly rising power in world economics. People will be able to afford to attack you because the US economy is not now, and certainly will not be, the be all end all of the global economy.
Australia for example, is predicted to avoid recession over the next year or two partly because we are the resource holders behind China’s economic boom.
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You are the bully in the school who honestly believes you should own the school just because you are a little stronger than everyone else.
No, no. In that example, Iraq is the bully, and another kid kicked him square in the face, and now all of his friends are whining to the teacher.
some of us remember Iraq being the US’ bestest buddy in the whole wide world… justify that, arse wipe…
Well, I’m getting swamped in tumbleweed…
Did we snuggle up to Iraq, or did we just do
the “enemy of my enemy” thing? IIRC, we
just used their blood to do our dirty work.
Both…
At most, Iraq was the introverted and suicidal kid.
Iraq was not a danger to the rest of the world.
Only just to his best friend, Kuwait, but we dealt with that.
Exactly. George II (the first Bush as titled in a monarchical manner) went into Kuwait in a justified war, kicked Iraq out, and went home. Mission Accomplished.
Like the Columbine shooters, right? Not a threat to their classmates, either, I’m sure.
which adds what? I don’t think that the teachers armed them, unlike the US who gave Saddam all sorts of cool toys…
Except that most of the toys he’d gotten in recent years were from the russians. Like those two MiGs they dug out of the desert…I dunno if you’ll accept a military site, but at least there are pictures. Yeah, yeah, pictures can be photoshopped.
You mean like the US allowed the Indians access to
fissionable material and nuclear technology, the same week as they finished their co-operative development of a Russo-Indian Ballistic missile? like that?
They were introverted, suicidal and homicidal.
Pi, old love, we’re pissing in the wind… the man is a either a congenital idiot, or has a herpes virus infesting his cerebral cortex.
This is a war of words, I’m not going to stop fighting until Robert understands that he is wrong.
Well, either that or he quits. Not much fighting to do without an opponent.
One of the best definitions of ‘war without end’ I’ve seen…
Good luck…
Actually, the bully in school hasn’t quite realised who owns him yet…
Gotta say, there’s a Hee Haw element to this …
[Bush looks right; Clinton says] I’m a pickin’ [Bush looks left; Obama says] And I’m a grinnin’
Queue guitar and banjo music, and the obligatory Cornfield jokes! LOL!
I’ll take Good or Horny any day over Bad.
Will the next 6 days NEVER END???????????????????????
Only too soon…then the Messiah will take us all straight to hell in a padded hand basket.
He can’t do that, Robert, because your messiah already brought us there.
Yeah, but this time it’s *padded*! WOOT!!
Oh, Bush isn’t my Messiah. As I keep finding myself repeating, there are policies of Bush I don’t like at all. But I also haven’t lost any friends in domestic terrorist attacks, and have a fairly good job for an unskilled college student. When the housing bubble went, the economy didn’t collapse, despite but you seem to think. 7% unemployment is not the end of the world. Once upon a time, we would have hunkered down and endured it until it ended. Not anymore. In today’s America, we have the freedom from any discomfort and the realities of life.
And I haven’t lost any friends to elephant trampling because of the magical elephant repelling rocks I gave them… You may want to look at how many terrorist attacks on US soil there were BEFORE 9/11, and work out a rough average number of years between attacks before you make statements that prove your grasp of logic and causation are seriously deficient.
also the fact that, at the start of the Clinton admin, there was the WTC bombing. In less than a month they had the guy who did it…
WTC 11th Sept 2001 – It’s now Jan 2009. Do we have Bin Laden? No. Hell, I’m not sure they were ever looking for him…
Iraq – a false, Oedipal, war, based on intel the powers that be wanted to hear…
Robert=retard…
nothing to see here… move along now….
Again, calling names, probably because that’s the only way you can score points. Oh, and the guys who flew planes into the towers are dead. Hard to “catch” dead men, don’t you think…?
More name calling from the troll.
The caught the guys who sent the bombers too… Osama is still out there…
I think he’s sloshing around the Afghan/Pakistan border… but I’d not anticipate that anyone is likely even to be seriously looking for him…
and Robert, when you stop with having the dumb, I’ll play nice
Until then you’re just a silly, loud, child… if you’re over 20, then you’re neotenous and retarded…
I’m going there anyway according to the conservatives, at least this way I’ll have a comfortable ride!
…and I’ll bring tangerines and tambourines!
A green tambourine?
You may keep the green tangerines. tho.
LOL!! But of COURSE!!
…and *tangerine* tangerines.
Ah, the right wing Messiah rhetoric -FROUFROU… do you want to deal with this bit of Right wing name calling?
Only if I can invoke the “Magic Negro” as a counter
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Robert, SHUT UP. You’re making my side look bad!
ROFL – only if it’s about movies… The Green Mile et seq…
BTW, you’ll enjoy my comment below…
Oh, ‘Hair-Trigger RefreshFroo’ already did enjoy the comment, LOL. And we agree. Dammit. *looks around for locusts spitting flames* Is this a sign of the Apocalypse?
No, simply my cynicism about people who wish to hold elected office…
The Apocalypse is signaled when Iggy pop advertises car insurance and Johnny rotten advertises butter…
Like behind my name….
and behind my name…
Then we have to…
ah
stock up on canned food, ammo and get a bible… tis the end of days!
Yeah…cynicism is something I think we can agree on.
Cynicism about politicos? Shocking…
If I was a young black man seeking a stage career as an illusionist, “The Magic Negro” would totally be my stage name. Just because I’m cantankerous that way.
“Sock puppet, Mediocracy and the HornDoggy” would be more accurate.
I like it!
having a single figure IQ, you would… and even I agree that calling Obama ‘The Good’ is rash…
Whatever, troll. Still the same tired insult tactic.
Still the same shuffling dance when I prod you… nice to see you’re so easily made entertaining…
What’s really got me here is no-one taking issue with ‘socialist = bad’.
Roosevelt was one of the greatest presidents you’ve ever been graced with. OH NOES, my leader has a sense of civic duty toward his citizens! He’s willing to enact policies for the good of the many? What the HELL? America’s always been about the good of the RICH! Pass me another hoboburger!
If you look a gift horse like that in the mouth, then there’s no hope for you. Just go with the other kids on an island until only one lives, worshipping his lord of the flies.
Think of the motion picture rights…
You’re taking an extremely simplistic view of enacting policies for the ‘good of the people’. Someone has to pay for those policies, and it comes down to taxing everyone to pay for it. Socialism can’t work in the social climate we have now, nor can pure conservatism, pure liberalism, or pure anything else. The only way to get something that works is to scrabble the best bits out of each theory and try to get a working model that screws the fewest while helping the most. It’s the best we can hope for.
1 Term 2 Terms and 2 Terms with a BJ in the Mix.
No, that’s not it at all!
It’s “divorced, beheaded, died; divorced, beheaded, survived.”
the bad. the just as bad. the horny.
you are the Weakest Link… goodbye
isnt it a little soon to call him the good. He wasnt even in office at the time this was made. I mean get real people do you actually think hes going to do all he says he will?
Well, at least now with obama, there’s proof that it can actually get worse.
Thanks! I needed that laugh to get my day started!
Whoah, there… An invite for an Englishman to come and run the United States… take care, there!
Britain got it’s act together by inviting a German Speaking Dutchman to come rule them…
Unfortunately, with my temperament, it would end up like one of the alternate realities in Schrodinger’s Cat. The one where the US is reduced to a post apocalyptic hell, rule over by a bloody handed despot… and like all good films, the bad guy would have an English accent…
Yeah, but you’d get to nuke Amarillo, and call it “collateral
damage.”
I’d call it ‘advancing Western civilisation’… why prevaricate about the bush?
having said that… the only place in TX the Deneke murder would have played out differently would have been Austin, I’d just nuke the whole place an call Austin collateral damage…