What are the 4 greatest words in the English Language? Former President George Bush
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Ha… ha?
We’re sorry, but, due to unusually heavy troll volume, Uncle Fester is not currently available. Please stay on the LOL. Your troll post will be answered in the order received. Your trollage is very important to us here at PK. We apologize for any inconvenience, and have a great day.
Meet his offspring, Rhorho, the semiliterate troll who stands in his shadow as all good toadies do.
You’re so cute when you try to be relevant. Please, continue. I’m using this for a case study.
Actually, you’re the semiliterate troll who simply wants to be me, but fails every which way… still, it’s nice to have admirers. Shame it’s just you, who pretends to be a Veteran to get drinks and a fumble
I know you don’t like girls “that way,” but you still have lingering doubts,
it’s clear. Seriously, it’s okay to be gay. Just use protection.
That pseudo-veiled ‘gay as an insult’ was beneath you.
True that. I was making the implication in keeping with his
mentality (for lack of a better term), and in keeping with his
obvious fascination with Unc. Sorry for any misunderstandings,
and I won’t do it again. Thank you for understanding that such
was beneath me, in the meantime.
I knew you were better than that, and it’s all too easy an insult to fall into sometimes. Especially with the way the word ‘gay’ is being used these days.
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Similarly, as much as I detest Ann Coulter, I can’t stand it when some idiot starts with the Man-Coulter insults and the others which are along the same line.
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I’ve known enough trans-gendered people in my life to know that it’s not an insult.
There are plenty of legitimate things to trash her over. That’s not one of them.
It’s still okay to call Ann Jar-Jar, isn’t it?
haha, I don’t think I’ve heard that one before. That’s actually pretty good.
Jar jar was one of the most obnoxious things I’ve ever seen on
the screen. Works for me.
How is this a troll, exactly? All he is saying is that he does not find it gut-busting hilarious, in not so many words.
Thanks anyway.
-T!
I think it’s along the lines of ‘First!’ that you get on Fail blog, if they’d actually said something, it would have made a difference…
Eh. I don’t think you can extrapolate from his post that he was running to the keys for a “First!” sort of response. Admittedly it was quite the short post, but I doubt that posting what he did anywhere else but in the first slot would garner the same sort of attention.
If he’s going about screaming about being first, sure, chastise him. However, if we’re doing so simply because we infer that is what he’s doing, then we’re not really any better than the people who race to type that in the first place. After all, half the time it seems like people are trolling by doing so anyway.
And the point of trolling? To provoke a response, of course.
Yeah, much too in depth for this. /shrug
-T!
Recently it has seemed to me that troll hunting has become the new trolling around here.
Yeah, that’s pretty good, but the Dilbert one was hilarious!
Oh, and the one that was something like “for a dollar a day you can helpify the economy” was priceless, too.
I loled at the helpify one. That was good.
One word, strategery.
“George” as well as “Bush” (with a capatilized ‘B’) are not words in the English language.
I believe they’re called proper nouns. Are you suggesting that they belong to
no language, or do you have another language in mind?
Texas Bushman.
It’s only spoken on one small southern ranch and on the shortest short bus.
Not anymore. The language has migrated to a suburb of Dallas, or so I have read.
you have to admit, the phrasing is excellent…
“Former President George Bush”… it just feels ‘right’ on the tongue.
Except in the sense that the bumbling oaf should never have been president of an HOA, let alone the United States. I mean yeah, we’re not being forcibly sodomized with an axe handle anymore, and that’s great news, but that does nothing to address the fact of it having happened in the first place.
One of my old martial arts instructors had a saying
“Forgiveness is giving up the hope for a better past”
Let it go…
Sage advice. My inclination to let it go will depend greatly on how well we are able to recover from Bush’s depredations.
Yet I’m sure if we don’t recover, it won’t be Obama’s fault for not recovering, it will be Bush’s fault for pushing us too far, right?
I’m sure that we will recover. I’ll judge Obama based on his intensity of action and efficacy of actions taken. It will be evident whether or not Obama is putting in hard work. The amount of hard work necessary will demonstrate the extent of the damage done by Bush.
I really shouldn’t have to explain this.
Why bother?
Good question. Maybe I just love the sound of keystrokes.
You like the tappity-tap, eh? Click my name for a tappify.
For someone who claimed to be a soldier, you have a poor grasp on how quickly the crowd can turn from cries of ‘Hosanna!!’ to ‘Crucify Him!’
The problem arises when too many people mistake obstruction of justice for forgiveness.
History tends to be immutable… I’d quite like ‘War Criminal George Bush’…
We already have that. I’d go with five words: CONVICTED war criminal George Bush.
I think I…love you…
Governor George W. Bush. Thanks a lot, Texas!
Noted humanitarian and intellectual
This is like saying “Ed Gein, noted taxidermist”.
In one!
“Ed Gein, noted taxidermist” has me chortling with glee. I thank you.
I found it delightfully clever as well.
Good point. I guess “Wal-Mart Greeter George Bush” would REALLY be the best 4 words…
Honestly, this one is a bit devoid of inspiration. Just saying something doesn’t make it funny and I was rather under the impression that these were supposed to be humorous, not petty grand-standing.
Must try harder…
The ‘petty grandstanding’ usually happens around shift change at Burger King, that’s when the real right wingers come to be butt hurt about losing…
See comments above…
what????? this is hilarious!
The BDS is really, really getting old at this point.
Sorry to be an imbecile. What is BDS?
I assumed it meant “Brainless Dumb S**t” but that would be too easy.
British Dragonfly Society… and if that’s the case, I let my membership lapse.
“Bothersome Draining Syphilis?”
It’s the name Malkinites give to justifiable dissatisfaction and fury directed at the one most responsible for our nation’s decline.
Question — do you refer to a printed list of talking points when deciding what asinine political statement to make, or have you memorized them so faithfully that they just roll off the tongue?
I’m not surprised at your inability to detect original thought. It’s obviously foreign to you.
You Kos Kids really are shockingly dim, aren’t you? The absurdity of that statemeny, to think that any amount of Bush-bashing is at this point original, is just…wow.
You’ve almost got a point – condemnation of the hydroencephalic man-child standardbearer of neo-conservatism is so completely universal that anything we think of has almost certainly occurred to others. Such is the zeitgeist of this decade.
the comment above was so filled with frivolous vocabulary that it has detracted from the english language.
Your ability to flagrantly flaunt a list of words that you do not understand is amusing in the extreme.
-KK
Oh, he understands them, and they pretty well described what he
thinks of you too, if I’m any judge of character…
Mmmmmm… brain water.
My thoughts and statements are original to me, in the sense that I formulated them myself rather than parroting an outside source. I didn’t claim that theywere unique to me. Tell me, have you been speaking English long?
And pray tell, what prompts you to label me a Kos Kid? Have I used any Kos-isms? I would think that my comments would be right at home at DU, or an MSN board, or Fark, or Slashdot… you know, basically any board that isn’t a right-wing echo chamber. BDS, on the other hand, is almost exclusively the territory of PajamasMedia, Malkin’s merry troupe of morons.
Thinking before you post… you should try it.
Malkin, the man who runs the Freak Show for the 21st C…
That’s a man, baby!
Thinking *at all* — give it a shot and let me know how it works for you, mkay?
I love how your choice of “forums” drops right back to left-wing echo chambers. Clearly, your critical thinking skills have been atrophied by massive confirmation bias and slavish adherence to the party line. But no, once you’ve transformed yourself into such a mindless minion, I can see why you would have no concept of the world outside of your twisted, hateful perspective.
Aside from DU, the forums I listed allow posters of all political inclinations, so I would say that the fail is yours, twit. You might know that if you got your info from anywhere that didn’t tell you how you should think.
Actually, you do pretty well with the ‘slavish adherence
to the party line’ there Black Flag. And if your view is
as wide than those you accuse, then it’s a few hundred
percent wider than I’d give credit for…
TBH, again, I’m not seeing any evidence of superior
vision or intellect. Just the same old nonsense over bias.
Ahh. Thanks. I found that, among many other explanations for this acronym, via Google. I do appreciate it.
I wonder why I had never heard that one before? Hmmm.
“Sorry to be an imbecile. What is BDS?”
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It’s clearly Bondage and Discipline Sex; and boy oh boy, is DWN gonna be mad that he missed this thread.
Ahhh … Google to the rescue.
At first I thought it might be “Baby Duck Syndrome,” or “Biological Detection System” but then I realized it is being used in a pejorative sense, and thus it must be …
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“Blessed Damien Society!”
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Damn you to hell, worthless anti-leprosy charity!
Although the above link does have a “Blown to be Wild” segment if you scroll down.
Crap. Nesting fail. It’s 4:52 a.m. and all is not well here.
Sick kid.
Last attempt to nest. Sorry, all. I’m having satellite lag, it appears.
Comments will not nest at the right level?
Sometimes if I don’t post fast enough my satellite will time out and post my comment as a new comment rather than a response. It’s kind of weird.
Or else comments have BDS — “Baby Duck Syndrome.”
According to that statement, “George Bush” are two of the best words in the English language. Sorry, but i don’t think that’s true.
This is true. This is very true.
And by that logic, it naturally follows that three of the greatest words in the English language would be “President George Bush.”
Kill the lol.
Kill it now.
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Failure to fullifilly thinkify through the phrasification of the LOLery
=
EPICALTASTIC WINNIFICATION
Good job.
I lawled my pooper off.
D;
OUCH! Seek medical attention immediately!
Logic can also prove that elephants are pink. What’s your point?
For high comedy, the three words ‘President Gerry Ford’ and ‘President George [W] Bush’ were always a crowd draw…
Seriously guys, not to knock this lol, which is a win IMO, but what are your four favorite words in the English language?
Toss up.
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“{Literal}, it’s not malignant.”
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and “Mom, I love you.”
That changes all the time, but right now I’d say:
- coruscate
- asshat
- deadline
- misunderestimate
Mine are: Kayak, Epic, Noob, and Booyah.
I’m not really sure if Noob and Booyah are English words officially, but I don’t care.
*raspberries*
fortunately, articulation, debauchery, chartreuse…
yes yes… I’m a geek
kumquat, latex, pickle and auto-asphyxiphiliac.
damnit
*auto-asphyxiophiliac
decolatage, pudendum, sussurate, crenelate.
Shouldn’t that be “decolletage”? I’m unsure about the English spelling, mind you, but in Swedish it’s “decolletage”, and i suspect we’ve all borrowed it from French.
you’re quite right… FF doesn’t have it in its spelling add-on, and I mostly say it.
I must remember to tell AF he needs to get boobies…
There’s, plenty, of, beer!!
Cake, potato, tazer, cake
Cake cake cake frosting (like duck duck goose, only not).
disambiguate, cat, “wanna play?”
uranium, mantis, extraterrestrial and sausage…
Sounds like a balanced meal.
Wow, so original, George Bush jokes are totally not old…
And neither is all the whining from butt-hurt Republicans…
Magnanimous victor? A worthy example? Uh, no.
The guy talks down to the opposition (“I won”), picks fights with the media, and gets huffy when asked to talk to reporters without a teleprompter.
He and the media are about equal in the picking fights department. And he’s absolutely right to say he won; Bonehead is pushing for the same crap that the electorate soundly rejected in November. McCain ran on the very same proposals that the GOP are trying to shove into the stimulus package. We all had a chance to vote up or down on those ideas. WE VOTED THEM DOWN. “I won” indeed.
Curiosity exercise: ‘McCain and the media are about equal in the picking fights department. And he’s absolutely right to say he won…’
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If it had been McCain or Palin saying ‘I won’ to the opposition had that happened, would you be as quick to tell the opposition to shut up, they’re right? Just curious.
That would depend on if there had been another debacle like the 2000 or 2004 election, where there were legitimate questions of a “win.” As it stands, the only questions that have come up as to the legitimacy of the Obama presidency are questions of his place of birth and stumbling through the oath, both of which are bogus claims.
You’re ignoring ACORN’s massive and blatant voter fraud campaigns in multiple swing states, primarily Ohio, along with the $100M+ in small campaign contributions that appear to have come from ineligible voters or overseas sources…
What? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
First as someone already said, ACORN was accused of voter registration fraud. If Donald Duck actually showed up to vote anywhere, then shucks, show me the law suits. Not to mention the fact that McCain also supported ACORN.
As for campaign donations, I was not aware that you had to be an eligible voter or within the United States to donate money. Quick, someone send the police after all those children that donated their piggy banks. Heck, arrest me because I donated $20 to Kerry’s campaign in 2004, when I was 16 (hence ineligible to vote.) As far as I know, there are no substantial questions in regards to his fundraising and you are just pulling crap out of your rear.
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If you want to talk about real voter problems, let’s talk about HAVA and the BS that comes with that. If you want to talk about questionable campaign contributions, how about the fact that one of the leader’s of McCain’s campaign was still on Fanny Mae’s payroll while working on the campaign?
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I’m willing to talk about problems with ACORN. I recognize the problems that are inherent in that system. However, don’t blame internal problems of a single organization for your butt hurt from 3 months ago. Even if there was a problem, I have a feeling that the election would have been much closer. But it wasn’t.
Even on a basic logic level, this makes no sense. What do you imagine people commit registration fraud FOR exactly? So they can *not* secure fraudulent votes? And why is it that every time the Republicans try to purge the rolls they are met with hysterical cries of racism, disenfranchisement, and “stealing elections”?
There have been indictments on the actual voter fraud, and there were many many reports during the early voting on actual vote fraud occurring, with video, audio, etc. Here’s just one: http://townhall.com/blog/g/c931ad6e-9ff5-4bca-96be-2ac7ac700f4f One of the fraudulent voters voted as “Duran Duran.” Many votes had to be purged because they were phony, and people such as the Get Out the Vote spokesperson who lived in NY registered in Ohio and also voted there. This has been going on a long time – definitely since Kennedy’s election. Absentee ballots are collected from nursing homes and made out for this or that one, homeless people are solicited off the street to go in under someone else’s registration and vote for a pack of smokes or a meal. It’s not new, it happens all the time; this is just one of the first times that the man running was openly and deeply involved with the organization (ACORN) that perpetrates the majority of it.
It’s disturbing that the same people who *still* claim Bush’s legal election was really fraudulent can see fraud happening for their own candidate right out in the open and then support it.
Another report on the prevalence of actual vote fraud committed using fraudulent registrations: This is really not difficult to understand.
ACORN had registration quotas for their worker. Thus registration fraud, to meet a quota. You clearly no nothing about the organization and weren’t here three months ago when this was all hashed out here in the comments then.
ACORN actually turned in some of their workers to the Feds last year
for faking it to meet their quota.
Also, not everyone in a nursing home is mentally incompetent. Some are in hospice care, or otherwise physically fragile. Which is a very scary realization for those of us who have visited a nursing home! Some are physically disabled and don’t have the money for home care–nursing homes being cheaper for the state.
That’s nice, I provided two links and an explanation of voter fraud resulting from registration fraud (though why that was ever in dispute I can not possibly imagine) and it disappeared. Guess citing sources is not allowed.
Citing sources is most definitely allowed, but direct links are discouraged to avoid the more annoying adbots.
To site a source without the delay, put the website link in the URI box just below where it asks for your email.
I’m not questioning the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency at all. He clearly won. The ‘I won’ quote came from a meeting he had (and you’ll have to forgive me for not being able to tell you with whom he had the meeting) where he stopped the arguments and opposition from the other side by saying ‘hey, I won!’. Basically indicating that he didn’t care what they had to say, his way goes.
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Now, reverse the situation. Make it Bush, McCain, or Palin in that same room with the Dems on the opposite side of the table, and debate being shut down by oen of them saying ‘Hey, I won!’ to the other side. Would you be pissed?
I didn’t mean to say that you were questioning the legitimacy of the Obama presidency. I also was not aware of the context surrounding him saying “I won.” Hearing that, I thought it was a “I won fair and square, stop trying to say that I didn’t.” type thing.
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And my position still stands. If Bush had said, “I won” I would be a little butthurt because there are serious questions as to the legitimacy of his win. It depends on the issues surrounding the “win.” If McCain had won, with a mandate and no real questions about voter intimidation or law suits to stop vote counting, and he said “I won,” then yes, I would sit down and shut up.
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But I would also like more information on the context of Obama saying this. Who was at the meeting, what were they talking about that prompted this? If it was something of consequence, and meant the way that you are construing it then yes, by all means stand up and say “I’m just presenting another position.” But it is something inconsequential and meant in a way like, “These are the same as the ideas that were presented during the election, and the voters choose me and my ideas over the ones that you are continuing to push” then yes, it’s warranted.
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I hope that makes sense…
“I won” details in link
Okay. From two firsthand accounts, one of them the opposition, it was said in a lighthearted manner. Also, the changes that the Republicans have been pushing for the stimulus package, are similar to, if not the same as what McCain was proposing throughout the election. The voters spoke and rejected those policies, so from my point of view I think it’s a fair thing to say in jest. If he was being serious and said things with a straight face like “I’m the Decider,” then I would still sit dwn and shut up, but I would be concerned. And I would take my concerns to the press as an elected official. But a blogger feeling concerned over a comment made as a joke, carries as much weight as a sparrow fart with me.
It was a lighthearted comment, sure. What I’m asking is this: Would that same lighthearted comment be met with the same approval had it come from Sarah Palin in the same context?
Are you sure about that? It could also have been more like when he gives people the finger and pretends he’s scratching his face. Still done in humor, but not exactly lighthearted. He does get a little pissy when his ego’s bruised, too.
@Froo, yeah. Same lighthearted manner meant in the same way, I would probably take it the same way.
@Anniee, no one can be sure, because none of us were there. But even the Republican, whom it was said to said he laughed. Did you read the link that was provided?
The mandate every president has is to uphold and defend the constitution and the rights of the people he serves. You also have a bunch of caveats for Republican wins that you don’t for liberal wins. It’s a little odd.
You seem to misunderstand what I was saying. When I said mandate, I meant mandate of the voters. Also, the caveats come from recent history. Please, reread what I was writing, without your right-wing glasses.
No, but you sure as hell would be, and so would every right winger capable of ignoring the fact that W’s economic policy is an utter abortion. But back here in the real world, the electorate was NOT capable of ignoring that fact.
By which you mean not aborting Clinton and Barney Frank’s ticking time bombs? Yes, that was a travesty.
You went off on some tangent there that has nothing to do with my post. Elaborate, please.
That is going to be a long wait…
ah yes. the stimulus package that was voted into law by the democrat legislative branch of our government… makes lots of sense to me… the dems are in power now and have been for a while… no excuses now…
I seem to remember the Republicans in the House of reps rolling over after a short rebellion. Tell me, why DID they STFU, and not duke it out?
because they knew that the dems had them beat… rather defeatist if you ask me, but the really only have so much political capital.
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and the point i was trying to make was not that the repubs were innocent, but rather that the idea that the electorate soundly rejected the ideals of the economic stimulus package that was voted in by dems… is completely backwards…
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in short… “slan agat” is a moron leftie.
And how did you make that jump? Bush was the poster boy of the Bail out…
but the congress and senate (both controlled by dems) passed it. therefore saying that the electorate rejected the principles of the stimulus package makes no sense considering that the dems picked up more seats in te election that came after…
Speaking of morons. The last “stimulus package” was pure tax break, Congress giving the Republicans exactly the form of stimulus they wanted. It cost between $60 and 70 billion. How much of that actually got spent back into the economy? About $17 billion. Grossly inefficient.
THAT is why the package being put together now was supposed to be an infrastructure spending and state program support package – so that the states could put people to work on projects that are ready to
roll right now and the country would have something durable to show for the investment…as opposed to the square root of jack buggerall the purely tax-break-oriented “stimulus” provided.
Bowing to GOP demands for more tax breaks in the current package is as moronic as you are, ubr. Do your research and actually find out a little of how the economy works before you spew again.
Germany and Japan are working on a similar infrastructure plan to use government spending to boost the economy in those countries. If you combine that with a redistribution of wealth you have the same formula we used to get out of the great depression. *gasp*
Quelle surprise…
um. so the dems bowed to the gop? wtf planet are you on?
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they were in power. blame both sides that their economic package was complete horseshite… not just the gop… and if you noticed, the plan was actually for $880B of which they’ve already spent $350B on banks… which did absolutely nothing… reread what i said and what you’ve wrote and you’ll see that i said absolutely nothing upholding the stimulus package was great… only that you blaming the gop for it is completely ass backwards… put blame where blame is due… the dems control the senate and the congress… they passed it. end of story.
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please explain as to how the gop could overpower the dems in the current state of our legislative branch.
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moron.
so, the GOP (who are not in power in the legislative branch) made the dems bow to their will?
they can’t even manage to nominate a decent candidate, so how on earth did they manage that?
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the dems passed it. blame them.
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and for the record, the last stimulus package was actually for $880B… of which they’ve spent $350B on banks and etc with no oversight. your dem congress passed that… blame them…
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moron.
With a GOP figure head who seemed to be driving at the time…
bush did sign it, but pelosi et al are the ones who passed it.
So, the buck isn’t the president’s… I see…
not only his… nope.
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somebody needs to make the totally looks like of bush and a scape goat…
Hmm. By your logic, someone’s recent blaming of Clinton for the economic crisis would be inaccurate, since the GOP was running the Congress for the last 6 of his eight years in office…
“So, the buck isn’t the president’s… I see…”
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Please re-read the rule book. When a Democrat is President, everything that goes wrong is his fault. If you think I’m exaggerating, wait till the first major thing after 01/20/09 goes wrong. When a Republican is President, nothing that goes wrong is his fault, as we all saw on 9/11. If he does something completely idiotic and/or harmful, it’s the fault of the Democrats in Congress for putting up insufficient resistance.
Yup. If there was only one Democrat left in office, and s/he was in some obscure district in ND, everything that went wrong would still be his/her fault.
That’s just the way of the GOP.
A Mormon leftie? That must be some rare bird indeed!
2 years. not “awhile”, the republicans were in control of legislative branch for about 12 years before that. forgive me for pointing out facts- I know it makes it difficult.
two years makes awhile for me… i didn’t say forever…
You do realize how long Congressional sessions are? They don’t work all of the two years. On top of that, there are committees and sub-committees and sub-sub-committees that have to give bills approval. Things don’t just happen. Not to mention that these guys won’t work more than they have to.
Suggested watching:
School House Rock: I’m Just A Bill
CSPAN
Two years is nowhere near “a while.”
the black flag: “Magnanimous victor? A worthy example? Uh, no.
The guy talks down to the opposition (”I won”),”
Oh jeez! Give me a break. It was said in a light-hearted manner, the Republican he said it to found it humorous, and no one considered it offensive. Except for humorless gits who are apparently wasting their time hanging out in humor-oriented web sites.
My mistake. It would only make sense if Obama was a colossal narcissist presiding over a cult of personality with no previous experience in collaboration. Oh, wait…
That really made sense. Oh, wait…
… thought about it a bit more. It makes absolutely no sense
what-so-ever.
Of course he’s a monstrous narcissist… he’s a politician…
God’s teeth, you’re slow…
Your defeatism is stunning.
what defeatism? Ted Bundy was once regarded as one of the brightest and best on the political circus scene… it could be argued if the girlfriend hadn’t dumped him it could have been Gore Vs Bundy in 1999… Narcissism is standard for the breed…
??? – Is this some internet meme I am not aware of
(ala “chuck norris)?
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I know that Bundy did some questionable things for the election of some governor, but that is the extent of his political activities that I am aware of.
He was an extremely committed Republican Party member, and probably would have gone far had he not gotten a little sloppy. When you’re juggling two women, ’tis wise to never let them find out about the other.
Ok, are we talking about the same Ted Bundy?
*googles*
I guess so. I can only surmise that you are putting me on.
Or are Republican serial killers in such large supply that it
is not such a big thing anymore?
It’s not a big deal among politicians… the joke about dead hookers in cheap motels has a grounding in some reality…
Well, Bundy was apparently also quite good working the suicide hotline…very interesting study, that guy.
Turncoats? No, merely tiresome. If the only comment that one has to post in response to a lol is to whine about it, then one might as well be prepared to be told to STFU. Nobody cares. Add something interesting to the conversation.
I like Hillary lols… She just drips contained malice better than I’ve ever seen, ever…
Biden he seems to do absurdity… so the idiot cousin.
And Obama, to me is just “Oblander”… there’s not much of a hook. His ear, his resemblance to Akenaten from the front, the fact he’s black… He’s just bland.
Pharaoh Akhenaten?
I’m sure I’ve linked to that picture before…
it’s the famous stature of Akenaten, juxtaposed with the cover of Time.
It’s quite interesting in its own way… [link]
It’s part of the reason I call him ‘Nyarlathotep’
he’s related to the pharoahs?! if i had known that back in november i definitely would’ve voted for him…
Don’t get too excited: Michael Jackson is also
related to the pharaohs.
[LINK]
There was the whole ‘Nubian’ conceit in the 80s… largely bollocks.
I’m not a butt-hurt republican, just want some actually funny, original macros, I’m tired of whiny liberals (who have nothing to whine about at the moment) continuously posting stupid Bush Macros, yes he was a terrible president, lets move on and make funny jokes, or is Obama above being made fun of? I forgot he was the messiah.
FROU – Messiah clean up in Aisle 15.
and for the Messiah-retard… Obama lol behind name and another on the front page… you some special kind of slow I’ve not seen before?
Your comment makes no sense.
The Call to Froufrou to deal with a Messiah-Bot or the Lols comment?
Yes.
Well, you’re the Messiah-bot, people playing the Messiah card are given yot yhr e resident right wing wing-nut to process with some choice mocking
If you notice, my name is blue. That means there’s a link there. If you click it, you’ll see what I was last linking to… in this case an Obama lol of my creation. I was also pointing out that there is a poking fun at the office of the President of the United States.
And since I’ve had to go into such extreme detail to translate what any noraml noob, even with English as a third language, could work out, on the second point specifically, I now know the answer to my final question. Yes, you are some sort of special slow… certainly the dullest creature I’ve virtually met on here in along time.
Curse FF and it’s clipping comment box!
should read
On Firefox, simply do hard returns when you get
close to the first vertical stripe on the right. You can
go one character across the line, and your text will
still look the way you typed it.
Psst….UF…technically, that’s a Biden lol you’ve linked to, although it does reflect the current administration.
You Americans all look the same to me…
okay, this Merkin lol’d.
One thing that nobody seems to take into
account is that most of the Obama LOLs up
for voting are not funny. I don’t mean that
in a “whiny libtard” way, either. Half of the
ones I’ve seen feature the “n” word, and
most of the other half involve clean, but still
unimaginative playground epithets, such as
“stupid,” “idiot,” and the like. There is not a
vast treasure trove of wit being knocked
down by the moonbats–promise.
Or, conversely, they’re not funny because they’re some version of “He’s teh awesum!!1!!1″, rather than actually being amusing.
Good point! Unimaginative LOLs deserve to
fail, regardless of bent.
Get used to it. Between the PBS guy jizzing in his pants claiming Obama is the FIRST “American” president and is just by virtue of his being ascendent, the constant imagery of him in every conceivable Messianic pose/lighting/special effects, you are absolutely going to be hearing the Messiah thing for a long time. You’re gonna have to deal.
If this site is intended only for the left as opposed to for *political humor, I’d like to see the policy. But trust me, you’re gonna be hearing that a lot of other places as well. Just how it’s gonna be.
Well, that establishes your level of lack originalty… you’re simply looking a retard now, and I really don’t like the guy. He’s an American politician. It’s like a cross between a pimp and a pusher with the morality removed, while people fawn like he’s a movie star rather than a Temp. I’m less charitable about UK politics, since they’re my direct problem.
The wit of the crowd is seldom funny… and god knows, you’re not even an entertaining version of the ‘they say it on TV, it must be funny’ commentator…
I love how you think your nonsensical ramblings are interchangeable with logic.
I love how you say logic is nonsensical just because it went over your head.
Jadis is just ‘special’…
No honey, just the nonsensical ramblings of an idiot.
Yes, exactly. Jadis is the nonsensical ramblings of an idiot.
I’ve got an idea I’ll get flamed for, but I’ll toss it up anyways.
How about, instead of repeatedly creating unoriginal “lols” that feature George Bush as no longer President (like that’s some sort of astounding revelation), some actually funny political lols are put here? I think the 2/5 rating on this one speaks for itself. =/
Easy solution. Just make one. Or many.
There haven’t been an abundance of fun in the “vote” section either when I’ve looked there lately, so it would seem people are lazy on creating the funnies at the moment. Me, I don’t care enough to start attempting to do something about it myself, but neither can I expect, or demand from, others to do it for my entertainment. :p
you are correct, but the reason there have not been many fun lols in the vote section is because the admins are not putting them up… DWN has two hilarious ones on arnold that never made it anywhere… the putin ones are still MIA… the only lols that will make it up are ones defaming w or ones promoting obama… i’m bored. give me something new.
Yeah, what’s up with that?
They’ve apparently been reworking the code for the voting page, as it’s different today, but there’s almost nothing to vote ON.
…and just to add to that? I don’t much like the new voting page. There’s very little space between the ‘skip’, ‘win’, and ‘fail’ buttons, and then directly underneath they’ve added one to both win and favorite something, and it’s easy to accidentally hit the wrong one. I just accidentally hit ‘win and favorite’ when I was trying to hit ‘fail’….
That’s weird. They look and function fine for me (though I almost always prefer clicking linked text over buttons so I’m not trying to speak for this change), the distances between them are good.
(Firefox, 1280 x 1024 resolution)
Oh, it’s probably just a matter of getting used to it. I only did it once.
Oh, they don’t go automatically to “vote” if you press “save and submit”? There are people who have time to sit and choose votable lols? Hm.
Believe it or not, they’re reviewed before they go to vote. I’ve had several (probably for good reason) that never made it to vote, but at least they’re still on the page.
I understand that the ‘reviewers’ are not going to try to determine what’s funny prior to sending them off, but it really makes me wonder how so many get through where the text is mostly off screen. Shouldn’t they prevent those from going through to vote?
Good point.
Or are the pictures in the voting phase for a very short amount of time?
You know, I wish I could figure that out. I vote a couple of times a day, and most of the captions I see in “upcoming” I neither saw nor voted on. It does make one wonder.
I have the same experience. I wonder if maybe a certain preset number of skip or fail votes knocks them out? I’d actually like an explanation of the voting process and how it actually affects selection, but I doubt we’ll ever get that.
Huzzah! Swarm the gates! Let’s have a peasant’s revolt!
I keed. I’d actually be really interested. Seems pretty random and haphazard, from where I’m sitting.
I’ll bring flaming torches and rotten fruit…
Potatoes for everyone!!!
Something like the system on the “Engrish” subsite would be nicer than this, i think – where you see how many for/against there have been, and they don’t vanish from the face of your earth once you’ve voted.
Hear hear. Thumbs up or down, so you can actually see that the LOL does, indeed, still exist and has been voted upon.
yeah. that would actual make some sense… but i don’t think the pk admins actually read these comments…
You’re probably right; I emailed them. Who knows, maybe we’ll get an answer.
Hey everyone – So here is a little explanation into the voting process: each submitted lol is automatically submitted to the voting pool. Each lol is only shown a certain amount of times, so this means not everyone will see each lol. And if a lol is automatically getting low votes, the system will take it out of the voting system. We are working on linking the number of votes on your profile page to the votes on the voting page, so you can actually see how your lol did on the voting pages, so hopefully the mystery of how your lol did will be solved. Hope that helps a bit!
Thanks!
That makes a lot of sense.
Could you elaborate on “a certain number of times?”
Is that random, or fixed?
so i should spend more time sitting on the voting site than on the comments site… hmm…
You rock, Tofu!!
If you don’t mind, I was wondering whether
submitting LOLs during low volume hours
affects the likelihood of success. For some
reason, I get my best ideas on Sunday
nights, but the LOLs I submit during the week
seem to fare better in favoriting.
Thanks, and keep up the good work!!
Most likely the voting does vary on the times that you submit a lol. Because once it’s submitted, it goes straight to voting, so it really depends on who is voting at that specific time. So let’s say on Sundays, a certain group of people vote on the site, and this may be different than the group that vote on the weekdays. You just have to find the time that people are generous and willing to vote Win.
Thank you, tofu.
You said earlier the voting was “a certain number of times.”
Is that random, or is it fixed? Are some shown to 50, and some to 100?
I’m just curious, as I’ve seen things end up at the top; they stay there for several days, and then another round of voting knocks them out.
Indeed, it would be great if the voting was such that it was a “simple” majority, and would probably be easier on the administrative staff at Pundit Kitchen, as well.
Again, thanks for taking the time to respond.
It’s usually fixed. The system has some kind of calculation that it figures depending on how well the lol is doing.
I think it’s this latter. Just a few days ago I caught my own lol in the voting queue, told someone else it was there and in the two minutes it took to get the other person to the voting page it was gone.
Butt hurt Republican whining. 4 more great words.
Now those are four words we can expect to see a lot in the coming years. In word and deed.
“in the coming years”
Feels good to say that, doesn’t it?
What do you call hundreds of posts of hissy fitting? Sandy vag Democrat whimpering? :p
PS: Both of your silly groups suck. RON PAUL! RON PAUL! *gets in UFO*
Ru-Paul, surely…
That’s who I thought I was voting for. Damn cataracts.
You have your hopey changitude now, how long and how constant is the Bush-bashing going to be? 8 years of it, let’s move on already. People were happy when Clinton left office, they were thrilled when Carter left office (not so much Reagan, though) – it’s been done, though never to death like this.
That’s about 4 in a row already.
Really? How many LOLs were there in a row when Carter and Reagan left office?
Oh. Right.
That was really not clever. But then neither is the endless parade of continued Bush-bashing even when standing in the full light and glory of hopey changitude.
It wasn’t clever to you because it showed you up for talking out both ends of your digestive tract. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t clever to anyone else.
Tragedy is when I get a paper cut. Comedy is when you fall in a manhole and die.
If I remember the world of 1978, there wasn’t an internet… it was more popular when Clinton left, but then the Cat Macro Meme wasn’t even born then… When the Dark One leaves office, or some disgruntled Red Neck Right Winger takes his head off with a home made soft nose we’ll see what comes up, shall we?
Otherwise, you’re really just making a butt hurt noise because you didn’t get the temp you wanted.
You’ve GOT to be joking. Did you actually just tell me there was no internet in 1978? Or cat macro? Wtf?
And I’m not butthurt, dipwad; there was no one to vote FOR in this election except Palin and she was hampered by that moron she was with. Thus, many people stayed home in droves. Including me. You can have your hopey changey – and in a few years everyone will hate him too, and be thrilled to see him go, just like with Nixon, Carter, Clinton, Bush 1, etc.
“there was no one to vote FOR in this election except Palin and she was hampered by that moron she was with”
I think this tells us everything we need to know, folks.
Ok, that’s laugh out loud funny…
A woman who thinks the world is 6000 years old, whose family values are so wonderful that she makes a virtue of them while her daughter gets knocked up by the sone of a woman who sell oxycontin and forged prescriptions, who claims that ‘foreign experience’ is being able to see Canada… ye gods… how do there people get neat things that are SHARP, let along be almost elected to the best paid Temp job in the US…
It’s sad that there’s no way to get across gales of helpless laughter on the Internet. Well, short of recording an MP3 and expecting the intended recipient to actually play it. Still, I was amused.
No one to vote for but Palin. *rueful head shake* Home-schooling really does make itself known.
Yepper dogs.
HTTP was only just starting in 78 and was far from a standard. There was Darpanet, Janet and the SPSS cloud… The interent, as we know it just wasn’t there.
The proposal for HTTP wasn’t written until 1989. HTTP does not equal the internet though, which has been around since way before then.
THere were numerous Hypertext type initiatives in the late 70s…
And I’m sufficiently technically savvy to know that the infrastructure is not the medium, but that’s for pointing that out. The ‘internet’ as in a self recovering, global network of linked computers only partially existed in 89 –
it was divided between Arpanet, JANet and other large SPSS/ x.25 clouds, with ARPANET hanging a private system that converter TCP to x.25.
TCP was expanded to become TCP/IP and was adopted as a considerably less complex method of communication (We’re sort of between IPv4 and IPv6 atm)
So, what’s the point?
Uncle Fester shows extensive knowledge of the Internet and its history
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Uncle Fester shows ZERO understanding of posts on the Internet: “So, what’s the point?”
…
And before anyone nitpicks on me for this, I am writing it in a joculatory mood. It is Friday afternoon and very, very soon I will have some proper bitter pouring down my throat, so buggrit! ;p
Diss, you’re a pain in the arse, and, take this in the
constructive sense it’s meant, I hope you die a cold, lonely,
painful death, of something foul smelling, and cosmetically
distasteful.
That jocular enough for you?
Diss? Dan… Unreserved apologies to Diss… Danbala is already somewhere benighted cold and lonely…
Oh, I’m sure you’ll find an opportunity to say something similar to me soon…
It will complement the ESB wonderfully.
The store was out of ESB, had to go for Founders, so that extra bitter came in very handy!
Apologies to both… the rizatriptan has done it’s work and I’m a sunny little Fester once more (well, as sunny as I ever am… which isn’t very)
Sunny liek Gothenburg.
Yes, many people stayed home, which is why voter turnout was the highest (by percentage of eligible voters) since the 60s.
Let me rephrase. Republican voters, even many who liked Palin, stayed home in droves. How’s that? Had they had anyone even slightly better than McLame, it could have been a much closer race that could have gone either way (though I’d say likely would have gone Obama because it had been 8 years.) And Obama did “Get Out the Vote” – no dispute there. He knew he would have to. 52 – 48 – that’s a fairly significant number of Republican voters not bothering after 2 very close prior races.
Choosing not to vote is in effect deciding to accept the decision of those who did vote. Which is rather immature, IMO.
More people voted for McCain in 2008 than voted for Bush in 2000, almost as many as Bush in 2004.
al gore did not invent the internet. and there was darpanet long before 1978.
What about Darpanet? did the public have Darpanet access in 78? It was all pretty much PDP9 kit and early Gandalf switch gear, with only TCP as the protocol for communication, connecting into US MIL minis and mains. You have a mainframe, and an acoustic coupler in your front room in 78?
Janet was the Academic SPSS net work that later also became part of the wider internet project, that was funded by the Al Gore signing.
You been tweaking, or just feel like being an arse?
so al gore did create the internet?
the old bait and switch… it wasn’t the internet until al gore funded it… that’s all complete bull… and yes, i decided that being an arse would be the best way to get a reaction from someone.
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and to further your logic from a previous post… “in 1978 the internet as we know it just wasnt there…” in 1994 the internet as we know it wasn’t there either… prodigy, aol, and BBSs were the only thing around in any kind of numbers…
“prodigy, aol, and BBSs were the only thing around in any
kind of numbers…”
Maybe to the general public but access to the internet was quite
wide-spread within the academic and government communities.
really? please site reference…
Link on name for relevant part about development of TCP/IP:
Excerpt:
“By the late ‘70s the final protocol was developed – TCP/IP (Internet Protocol) – which would become the standard for internet communications.”
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Of course my personal memory of using the internet in the early
nineties through a government vendor was more relevant to me.
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USENET (through UUCP which often used the same networks as the internet services) users were more then a little disdainful of the influx of those that used portals such AOL and Prodigy. These portal users, new to the well
established etiquette of newsgroup posting, were awarded the distinction of being clueless newbies. Thus initiated the September (1993) that never ended.
What an improvement huh? Now we are using the internet to do all sorts of other neat and cool stuff like, er, uh, look for pron and useful information.
No, Al Gore did not ‘create the internet’ – He chaired the committee that created the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. He is probably the earliest high profile coiner of the term ‘Information Superhighway’, if not the inceptor of the term.
But, you’re simply wanting sound bite politics to be the rule of the day, since it beats doing something onerous, like having to ‘think’ (why is thinking Kryptonite to so many people? They seem afraid their mouth will seal up if they don’t use it, but ask them to engage brain and you’ve more or less excreted on Mom’s apple pie) So, you were bleating about the Rush comment being dug up, but the Gore urban legend is fine? I see… so tell me, have you been tweaking or are you simply ignorant and loud?
you completely missed the comment about me just trying to get a rise out of you…
and for someone who claims to be independent you seem to kiss a lot of leftie ass…
No, I didn’t miss it, I just assumed you were a retard, which you’ve now established.
and for an indy, you spout a lot of Neo-con soundbite stuff like it’s fact.
i just say those things to piss you off fester…
usually when you bring up “neocon” sound bites to people who lean left they jump all over you… which you just proved in spades…
especially when you throw mud over the leftie golden boy, al gore. did you know that his energy usage for a month is twenty times more than mine?
usually people who cast aspersions that they’re more ‘libertarian than thou’ are just get pissy when you call then ‘neo-cons’, thanks for hoop jumping for my entertainment…
He can use the resources of a third world country for all it interests me
Did you have a point to make there, or does old Al just make you somehow feel inadequate?
You wanna know the best five?
“Pay To The Order Of…”
But the three worst words in the English Language are “President Barack Obama.”
Barack and Obama are Kenyan… so we’re left with ‘President’… and yes, that tends to be a bad word for the planet for most of the 20th C and for the run of the 21st C thus far…
The best president you never had was George W Bush of TX. That man had a vision of pulling the US back to being a trader with the world. If I could, I’d have voted for him. Shame that idiot President George W Bush managed to make the US even more Imperial, and reduced the liberties of the people of the US to a level not seen since the Civil War…
*bandwagon rolls out* okay everybody, hop on!
Are these being freeped? Or have all the butthurt conservatives randomly decided to hang out here while they lick their wounds?
I think it’s a form of occupational therapy.
The site isn’t called “Pundit Kitchen for the Left Only” – it’s supposedly a political humor site. Some people really need to get over themselves.
“Some people really need to get over themselves.”
I definitely laughed more at your comments than at the LOL itself.
Indeed… watching the inmates of any mental health facility can be amusing.
Tell us more how Palin was robbed…
the reason they didn’t name it pundit kitchen for the left only was because the url was already taken.
I yearn for the day when our restaurants and bubblers are segregated based on political party.
Back of the bus!
so why is Bush’s podium in an office…?
He appears to be begging for something… 888-885-HOPE…
Enough already. You may not have liked him as president, but he still was, gasp, president, for two terms. As in elected. By a lot of people. Twice.
Perhaps the submitter would like to stop delivering pizzas and give running for president a try?
I still don;’t get this ‘respect the role’ rubbish. It’s a TEMP JOB people…
…unlike Congressional jobs which are temp to perm…
Actually, he was elected to the job by the people ONCE. Unless you consider the Supreme Court “a lot of people”.
wow. you’re still butt hurt about that?
I don’t think it’s called “butt hurt”, I believe it’s called “factual”.
Says a man who lives in a country that cites the War of Independence and the Civil War like they’re current affairs…
We make do with the history we have…
ubr: “wow. you’re still butt hurt about that?”
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The subjugation of the electoral process tends to stick in one’s craw.
You guys are still telling yourselves that nonsense?
Actually, that’s pretty hilarious. Then when the real subjugation of the electoral process takes place, you’re happy. Bizarro world.
Why not, you seem to deliver all sorts of other nonsense like it’s reality, when it’s really only real in your hillybilly heroin burned out mind…
it just amazes me that you can find fault in something that has been over and done with for 8 years even though it was handled according to the due process of law… basically, if you don’t like the way the system is set up you have three choices…
1. leave
2. fix the system
3. ignore it
Not just according to all applicable laws (except for the FL supreme court, which violated FL law) but according to the EXPRESS mandate of the constitution. Had the justices decided ANY differently, this might as well have been a banana republic; the constitutional mandate is absolutely unequivocal. That people still lie about it, to themselves and one another, is ludicrous.
you’re a lawyer too? How cool!
Actually I was just trying to throw a little humor into all of this. Granted, I wasn’t keen on it when it happened, but I accepted it and moved on. What WAS hard to accept was that this drooling, gap-toothed, inarticulate, in-bred tool of a hillbilly was elected for a second term. I’m not saying that his opposition was the best thing since video games but come-on people!
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true. i was quite surprised to see bush win… but then again i would’ve been much more surprised to have seen kerry win… talk about trying to pick the lesser of two evils…
That’s why I didn’t vote for either. Yes I know my protest vote was a pointless gesture but it felt good just the same.
“Enough already. You may not have liked him as president,”
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Not to state the obvious, but I think that was the point of the LOL. Those of us who realized he was doing irreparable damage to our country are relieved and rejoicing that he’s really gone, and that there’s nothing more that he can do to us — or didn’t you hear the cheer that went up when he and the Mrs. got on the helicopter and WENT AWAY???
You forgot “Trig isn’t really her son” in your hysterical rant, Festering. And Magdolene, I really don’t care about the opinion of someone who actually still touts the nonsense about the SCOTUS enforcing the constitution in a legal and decisive election as being subversive; that is just the leftist butthurt that’s been going on for 8 years, and it’s BO-ring. And extremely uneducated, propaganda. You couldn’t hold a candle to Palin in the intelligence department, believe me. That’s just your leftist smug coming through.
“You couldn’t hold a candle to Palin in the intelligence department, believe me. That’s just your leftist smug coming through.”
The laughs just keep on comin’! XD
ADDENDUM: Just a helpful hint, not everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist.
And apparently you care enough about my opinion to mention me specifically, for which I’m truly touched. :^)
Not everyone who “disagrees” with me (or is just flat-out wrong, as you are about President – two terms elected – Bush) is a leftist, but you are. That is patently obvious.
Addendum for you – I have found that most of the time the leftists screaming about how hilarious they find things, and how they’re just laughing and laughing at people who know more than them? Are usually actually just furious, butthurt, and sad. Somehow I doubt you stand out from the usual crowd there.
and you know ‘more’? You hide it so well…
She’s a clever one, indeed…
“just furious, butthurt, and sad”
Aw, Anniee451, don’t mind the haters, leftist or no! You’ve brightened up
my day by giving me some chuckles. And that’s a real smile, not a furious one, or a butthurt one, or a sad one! You’re something retro from the ’90s to me, sort of a memory of my childhood of laughing at Rush Limbaugh and his frothing partisan, name-calling nonsense.
And I don’t consider “leftist” an insult, so if that was your objective… sorry? Also, simply because people may hold different opinions from you (and I’m not referring to the election
2000 business above) doesn’t make them wrong. I may say that if Sarah Palin was anywhere near the White House other than giving tours, I’d sob for our nation, that isn’t wrong. You may disagree and say you think she should be
president, you’re not wrong, either. We simply disagree.
And I may never run for vice-president, but I know that Africa is a continent, not a country. And I know that insulting millions of community organizers is no way to win an election. I could go on, but I won’t.
Best to you, sweetie, and thanks for bringing me funny memories from my childhood of chuckling at that kind of nonsense.
My favorite was Palin’s description of “real” America, complete
with vindictive tone, implying that there’s such a thing as a “fake”
America. I hardly ever feel sorry for the GOP, but you know
knickers were twisting when she went rogue. I remember feeling
like a spectator in a blood sport at the time, thinking, “Oh crap–
That’s going to hurt in the morning…”
Actually people liked her a lot more. No one wanted to see an intelligent conservative capitulating to McCAIN of all people.
By “people,” do you mean “real” people, or people Palin
doesn’t like?
Other conservatives disagree with you. Many here liked
McCain, but disliked Palin. You are not the voice of all
conservatives, so “actually people liked her a lot more”
doesn’t cut it.
The above comment was why I think she’s Colberting…
Oh, I’d not forgotten that particular bit of insanity… based on the lack of taste that the American politico shows in what (s)he covers up (Kennedy leaving a woman to drwon is the poster boy for that) coupled with the commonality of it in American culture (Ted Bundy, a noted former Republican, was the poster boy for that) made it seem almost expected from the third world hell she was dragged from as a token woman… I note you don’t make much of the point that if you bring family values to the table, then expect a scapel to be taken to them… same as being anti-gay, then being caught cottaging in an air port toilet, or using the megachurch funds to pay for your tweaking and rent boys… It’s going to be ugly, and it’s deserved.
If you’re not from Alaska, had you even HEARD of her before the deserved drubbing of Billary by the Dems?
and that is rightist smugness of finest quality…
Aw, Festering, listen to your leftist friend up there. Not everyone who disagrees with you (or just knows better than you) is a “rightist” or conservative or whatever label you prefer. Scout’s honor!
No, a lot are Liberal scum too… you’re just a mealy mothed sh-it eater who thinks she has something to say…
and you avoided my question
Of course. Don’t be silly.
Magdolene, now I KNOW you’re just fronting; thanks for the confirmation. You sound like a feminist, too. Disturbing.
As to conservatism (it’s not an accurate term in my case, but I’ll settle for it for brevity) – you and I *both* know that half the voters are not left and can be more accurately described as conservative-leaning. Certainly by your definition, which seems to run pretty hard left when defining the center. So who are you trying to fool exactly by calling conservatism (libertarian in my case but whatever) some retro bygone thing, when that is quite far from the actuality?
Feminism is totally passe, though – that one brings me straight back to the 70s and dipshits marching in the streets with their NOW signs heh. (No, seriously; I know that sounds very “I know you are but what am I” but it isn’t; that’s just exactly what feminism is.) If you aren’t one in name, you are in practice – they do that whole same smug condescension thing in place of rational discussion – makes up for the whole “dinosaur” element.
Anniee451 honey, I’m guessing you’re not used to people saying anything positive about you. I’m sorry. Not everyone finds frothing partisan name-calling an Onionesque laugh, I’m rare that way, I realize.
I kinda thought with the “Annie” part of your moniker you were a
woman, so the anti-feminist rantings (btw, feminism is absolutely nothing more and nothing less than equality of the genders; it is not, as hardline neocons such as yourself seem to believe, a massive group with a
singular mindset) are… I’d say curious, but in the world of Ann Coulter, I know better. And dipshits? If it weren’t for those “dipshits”, you wouldn’t be anywhere near a computer, that is, if you are a woman. Either way, my handle comes from an amusing song lyric, if that’s what you were getting at.
Certainly by your definition, which seems to run pretty hard left when defining the center.
I didn’t say a word about the center, sweetie. I said that not everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist, as you seem to spit at, well, anyone who
does.
smug condescension thing in place of rational discussion
Name-calling isn’t rational discussion. Neither is blind hatred of
massive groups of people, as you demonstrate so clearly on this
forum (democrats, leftists, feminists, anyone who contests the 2000 election).
Feminism is only passe when sexism is passe. I would think that as a Palin supporter (which you apparently are) you would be aware that sexism is alive and well. And Palin, whom you support, has repeatedly called herself a feminist (if need be, I’ll go to the trouble of yanking up the sources, but if you already know I’d rather hear your explanation); does this make her a dipshit to you?
You keep makin’ me snicker (seriously, I’m snickering) and I do feel bad because you’re apparently serious as with the personal insults to me,
I take it, so perhaps I’d better keep my distance. Maybe not, though, since after your apparently serious feminist bashing, I’d love to see you wiggle through Palin identifying herself as a feminist.
‘A’ darling, I don’t know what planet you come from. You write like someone who values his/her education, but you consider Palin intelligent? As I read
Palin, I could grant that she may have some intelligence. But anyone involved in politics who allows herself to be as ignorant of current events, both national and international as Palin demonstrated herself to be? That shows serious lack of judgment. And in the out-and-out wattage competition, she just is not in the same ballpark as Obama, even if you don’t agree with his political stance. And no, I don’t consider libertarianism or conservatism to be retro. I do HOPE that neo-conservatism becomes retro, but that is just my prayer.
Like anyone, of course I value my education – like anyone, I worked hard enough to get it. But I do not agree with your assessment of Sarah Palin – there was an obscene amount of media hysteria/spin going on, and they were never honest about her; too afraid Obama wouldn’t win. She was not ignorant of current events, national or international; you really have to go deeper than the mainstream media to get this information. You can try reading several different sides – and while that involves spending time reading conservative or libertarian sources; I promise it will not kill you and might change your mind on some things. I do not by any means stop reading leftist sources – I read them all the time, to keep up with various schools of thought. You could do the same, and find out that perhaps you are not getting the whole story.
For example, howobamagotelected.com. They have two separate videos available on how the media distorted and lied throughout this election (nothing new, of course) to mislead and to deliberately NOT inform the people of pertinent facts on the candidates. They ask the people what their sources of information are, as well. Now, much of the documentation is not available yet, because it’s being made into a documentary – but there is plenty anyway.
“I do HOPE that neo-conservatism becomes retro, but that is just my prayer.”
Neither the left or the right or the rest go away, and while I don’t entirely agree, I’ve seen excellent cases made that this is a good thing. That opposing views are essential in a self-governing society or else one would become way too powerful, and power inevitably corrupts.
Think about it.
This, I agree completely with. While I have my ideology preferences, I ám pragmatic enough to think that no -ism should ever be allowed to roam free. The only sensible thing is to have them in a constant battle. Anything else would just lead to horrific stagnation. This, I believe.
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That said, some isms deserve nothing but scorn. :p
And that said, they should still be allowed to exist, of course.
Bah. I don’t know where that acute accent came from. I certainly “ám” nothing.
curse those ‘nordic’ keyboards!
I wish I could blame that! Hm. Maybe I can. The acute accent sits next to the backspace. With that in mind, it’s a miracle that nót évérýthíng Í wríté lóóks líké thís.
You seem to be calming down a bit. What is so dinosaur about
women’s rights? I take it you voted, and I take it you’re
female. If both are true, you owe the suffragettes for fighting
for your right to do so. Are they passe in your book, too?
I don’t care to associate with radical feminism, but, as with
most negotiations, it seems best to start off with larger
demands than one plans to settle for. True, people on the
fringes tend to draw fire, but even PETA serves a purpose,
after all. They make the news because they are controver-
sial, but invariably cause public awareness to shift in their
direction.
“What is so dinosaur about women’s rights?”
That’s not a simple question; but I’ll tentatively say, “Nothing.” If you’re talking about the legitimate constitutional rights that *all* human beings are accorded by nature and nature’s God. But those aren’t singularly “women’s” rights; rather the rights of every man and woman. At this point, in Western Society (currently worse in the UK than here) there are distinct legal disadvantages that men are subject to than women – such as in the case of family law, the Duluth model, etc. In other words, the pendulum you mention has already swung too far the other way in some societies, and needs to be addressed as such. If you wanted to read an excellent book on the topic, I suggest “Who Stole Feminism” by Christina Hoff Sommers, PhD. Or “The War Against Boys” which is actually an easier read and a bit more lively. Some of it is on the web too. You could also check out some of the writings of Wendy McElroy of ifeminists, or even Daphne Patai, but I do think Sommers is the best start.
Not sure I agree on PETA; while some factions still shift to their cause in the end, they’ve alienated pretty much everyone except the most radical. Their latest cause was to rename fish “sea kittens” so people wouldn’t eat them lol. But of course that’s not nearly as outrageous or vile as their acts of vandalism and outright shakedown on manufacturers, or their Holocaust ads about chickens, or some of the things Newkirk involves herself in and teaches. And no, I’m not talking about the turkeys, because no one wants their food to be tortured before they eat it.
You mentioned God… that really doesn’t help your position.
You moron, that’s the phraseology of the Declaration of Independence, FFS.
And? I expect 18th C loons to rattle on about God… not 21 century ones…
There are biases towards women in law because there are biases towards men in business.
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Women still earn less than men, above and beyond differences in the jobs they hold.
There are also significantly less women in politics and in executive positions.
Fewer women.
The wage gap myth has been busted so many times by so many sources it’s pretty absurd that anyone isn’t aware of it anymore. When relevant factors are adjusted for (length of time on the job, schooling, hours worked, part/time full/time, decisions to take X years off to be with children, etc.) the wage gap shrinks to a penny either way. The Longitudinal Survey of Youth showed that never-married singles with the same education and experience working full time in the same positions had the women earning an average of two cents more. Women have the advantage in getting in to college (women outnumber the men in admissions and have programs like Title 9, etc.) and thus preparation for the good jobs, and once they graduate more of the women land jobs right away with equal or better pay. Interestingly, not as many of them remain in the jobs they land after that; a year later not as many are still in the same jobs, have cut down hours to marry, etc. A woman who chooses to work fewer hours to have more time with her children is naturally going to earn less than a man working overtime.
You want a real case for equality? Men account for 98% of deaths on the job. No one pushes for equality in that. It would make sense that men doing deadly dangerous jobs would earn more; would account for a wage gap, except the numbers don’t show one once hours, experience, and the other factors are taken into account.
If women don’t run for office as often, that is not the fault of the law or the government; studies show that when they run they do very well. As to CEO positions, they require master’s degrees and 30 years experience; as more women have given up other things and pursued careers since the 70s, this gap is closing up. Counter-feminist information is really readily available; it’s not something you have to work very hard to find. So please research such things before making the claims. Even ifeminist has a ton of this statistical information available.
Also, it makes not a whit of sense to say that it’s fair to discriminate against men in LAW because women are allegedly disadvantaged in BUSINESS. But a socialist doesn’t find the law (i.e. FORCE) is a more fearful thing than a business (i.e. not force.) Men are going on strike from marriage more and more because they know they can so easily have their children ripped from them on no grounds at all (and false claims) but be financial slaves for it for 20 or more years anyway. Try Fathers 4 Justice in the UK; it’s sad stuff, but very interesting. Bob Geldof is involved in it.
Title 9 is not a woman-advantage law. It simply states that any school which receives Federal Funding must not deny educational opportunities to their female students if those opportunities were available for the males. That’s it.\
It took Title 9 to force Harvard University to admit women. And for my public school to allow girls into shop class, and boys into home economics.
Do you see these as bad things?
rho and others, I gave a lot of sources to examine the other side of the feminist issues. If you can’t be arsed to read them, don’t think I’d be arsed to dispute your crap.
Colbert – pure and simple… absolute genius…
Let’s assume, for the sake of brevity, that everything you say is irrefutable.
Firstly, it’s ironic to use statistics to indicate that we have no need to pay further attention to the plight of women. In fact, women’s rights groups have struggled to create the awareness and normalize the language of fairness in regard to women’s rights in our culture. They have initiated the legislation necessary for your statistics now. To paint a picture, it’s like coming home after the cleaning lady has worked all day in your house, and deciding that you’re not a messy person.
Secondly, it’s naive to think that no further work is necessary to maintain the status quo. If all women’s rights groups disbanded today, it wouldn’t take long before we would begin to see our rights picked apart by the white male juggernaut of traditional thinking. The Overton Window would shift back under such subtle pressure. To further the illustration above, it’s like firing the maid because your house is clean.
Marry me?
That has to be the best damned post I’ve read from the right wing in a racoon’s age.
Brace yourself for the Uncle Tom slurs…
*gets weak in the knees*
*fights urge to kiss you*
Well said, well done.
You, sir (or madam) are a credit to your party. I salute you and wish you well, and hope that you will continue to grace us with your presence.
*bows deeply*
Well done!
Latte-sipping RINOs are the reason the GOP hasn’t had a decent candidate on the ticket since 1984. Spew your lies at someone else.
On cue… the Colbert clone with the Uncle Tom bile…
*puts down latte* What?
She really does spit the bile… it’s great… you’d almost believe it if you didn’t know it was parody…
No wonder we can’t have world peace. When does the name calling stop and the work begin?
People of all political persuasions, I beg you, use the passion you have for “your” team and go try to do some good in the world instead of complaining about everyone else.
*Sigh* Back to Lolcats…
It never stops… war without end…
It’s why I reckon politics is indistinguishable from religion.
Good thoughts. But it will take both sides to drop their preconceived notions and at least attempt to work for the betterment of, not just the US for us Merkins but for, the global situation as well.
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And I am referring to the Obama supporters as well as the dyed-in-the-wool neo-cons. If they (the Obama people) think that one person elected as president can turn this slide around they are sadly mistaken. They can not just sit back and think that a new president can do it all without the assistance of the public and their breaking of old and wasteful habits. He’s not a god, he’s not Superman, he’s not going to fix everything so you can ignore the problems and go back to driving behemoth SUV’s to the corner market .
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(ok tl;dr)
Poooor George Bush. I actually liked him has a president.
How?
We’ve certainly had worse presidentS in my lifetime.
Who would that be in your opinion?
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We’ve had bad presidents and I am sure you and I would disagree on which ones those were. But the worst of those, in my opinion, would have been Nixon, and he was far and above better then Bush. At least he was capable of implementing and maintaining a decent foreign policy.
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I never thought I would ever speak of Nixon in a favorable manor but that is what Bush has driven me to.
Obviously Carter was an enormous disaster. We were all suffering with real decreases in the standard of living, severe rationing of basic needs like gas, many hours long waits for same, and severe economic strain. People complaining about the situation now, when so far it’s only academic (except in states where their single-state depressions were going on long before any market crash), either weren’t there or aren’t honest with themselves.
Bush #1 halted the longest economic boom in our history (during which we suffered an even more severe market crash and no one suffered at all for it – no one did anything, the market adjusted as it will do when left alone, and forward progress was not harmed), one in which real standards of living had skyrocketed, people were upwardly mobile, etc. with his tax increases after saying he wouldn’t be doing that. Clinton propelled us even deeper until the freshman congress was able to rescue the market and put a band-aid on it; had he been given free reign to institute disastrous things that he attempted, like Goals 2000 and Hillary’s socialized health care, it would have been a lot worse. That’s what the legislature was for. Enemies lists, dirt-diggers, mob-like tactics, threats, MASS MURDER AT WACO by our own government and then shredded documents (ordered taken out of Foster’s office by Hillary) – there was a lot of treachery going on. I will never forgive the mass murder of our own people on American soil by that administration. We have not seen anything like that in any other administration.
Yes, there have been worse presidents than Bush. I can’t say Nixon was, because he had the decency at least to resign (unlike others), and he was definitely not weak on international and economic issues, by a longshot. He was a strong leader and did accomplish some arguably very positive things (you like having an EPA?) Chuck Colson went to jail after Watergate for possessing ONE stolen private citizen FBI file – 1500 were found in the Clinton’s private rooms and nothing happened.
Briefly, yes, we’ve had worse presidents and better ones than Bush in the last 45 years. And of course in the last 200. This is the first basically open socialist, and a free market economy being the bedrock issue in all administrations, we’ll see just how bad this one can get. We’re off to a ripping start with the interview in the M.E. and what was said there.
Yes, socialist. Because this (and this will clearly surprise you) right wing man is a socialist. This must be why he has decided to surround himself with people not only from his own party, but also the clearly socialist Republicans.
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The USA used to have choice in elections between a right wing and a left wing. It has been decades since the average democrat politician was left wing.
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And what is wrong with having an interview in the Middle East? What is wrong with talking about respect and peace?
I think that Carter got a raw deal as far as public opinion is concerned. Yes he flubbed the Iran hostage situation, that that is nothing compared to GWB’s
middle east debacle.
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Carter was maligned for his so-called malaise speech (though he never used that term) during his re-election campaign. Reagan jumped on it and used it
to claim that Carter had no respect for the American way of life and that all was fine, go ahead and keep consuming beyond our capacity to supply. Carter has since been proved correct and the Republican’s messiah proved wrong. The resulting trade deficit is what is the underlying cause of our current economic woes, petroleum supply is only a part of that problem. It is our need to buy stuff, and more stuff, that drove our trade deficit up the charts.
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That leads into my selection for worst president: Reagan.
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He ignored our fiscal situation and kept going down the path of economic ruin. He was the architect of the largest increase in government ever,
after giving so many “cut government” soundbites during his campaign.
These were NOT the actions of a responsible conservative but
rather one who gave only lip service to conservatism to appease his base,
but so few of them actually knew what conservatism actually is. They just
knew it sounded good.
Damn you and your liberal lies! Reagan wasn’t the Messiah, he was GOD himself… oh… right, the Messiah is *magically* god as well as the messiah…
“Who would that be in your opinion?”
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I’ll save you the trouble of reading the inevitable long, windy, answer. In her opinion, ANY Republican President is infallible and ANY Democratic President is a disaster. Self-fulfilling prophecy in 3… 2…
We’ve had better too.
FDR, for the win.
That filthy Commie? feh!
All sorts of WIN up in here today.
OK, pundit kitchen, enough with the Bush hating. This is seriously starting to p!ss me off. He did a lot of good things for this country. How’s about you recognize that instead of making fun of him all the time. When did it become patriotic to make fun of our president? Why don’t you all pick on Obama for once? Oh, wait, I forgot, it’s sacrilegious to make fun of God. Seriously, ENOUGH.
Give it up. This is a seriously Liberal website. Wait till you see what they do to wounded soldiers here. This site is just one big Obama love fest and Republican Hatred site. You will be smeared endlessly by the Libtrolls here if you try.
Two sane comments in a row. I wouldn’t mind the bashing if it were balanced a bit – at least make a token effort at mocking politics at large instead of veering far left and only bashing conservatives/libertarians.
When was ‘Michelle is urgleee, hur, hur hur…’ a ‘political opinion’ retard? you’re a
Whoah, wait a second – wounded soldiers? I hate to ask, but WHAT?
Falling out of a Cessna while drunk doesn’t qualify as a wound… you were never a soldier, and if you were military, you’re simply a disgrace to all who served.
Another Relgious imagery freak… all we need…
Let’s play a game. Name some of the good things Bush did. I’ll either demonstrate that your item is BS, or counter with something Bush did to the detriment of the country. I’m betting you’ll run out of items before I do.
“Can you explain how Obama’s policies are unconstitutional?”
I didn’t say they were; I don’t know what they are yet. They’ve changed a lot over the last 13 years and over the last few months/weeks, and now we’ll be finding out. I was just explaining what my own answer would be to that question – which is, it depends. If they are unconstitutional, in our case, the persons should not expect that we will be turning our system of government inside out to accommodate them. In the particular cases of the socialist sites, they have the options of going somewhere where there is such a system, or form their own. The beauty of our constitutional rights is that we CAN do such a thing, but we must not force others to. If such people find themselves in positions of power, I would fight them for my right not to be forced to live except according to the constitution and our governing documents.
There IS a very grave concern with Obama and what he may believe and try to implement, laid out in a radio interview in 2001 in Chicago. He said that the judiciary was hampered by checks and balances from implementing redistributive policies. He then said it was necessary, to implement redistributive (yes, socialist) policies, to gain massive ground support and go after it from the executive and legislative branches. Then he of course continued angling for legislative and finally executive power as well as that ground support. He also stated in Dreams From My Father (and there is audio of it being read in his own voice) that he chose his friends carefully…such as Marxist professors. I would have to say that includes people like Wright and others – Wright, for example was featured prominently on his website until the videos surfaced on the internet; then it disappeared without explanation – it was not very plausible that someone who chose his friends so carefully and had defended him previously, had not been listening to that stuff we heard regularly for decades. Occam’s Razor says the explanation was that it looked bad. Wright resurfaced almost immediately after the election. I have seen media outlets trying to quote the radio interview and claim it didn’t say what it did. So of course I read the entire transcript. In fact, the youtube audio was a very fair representation that was edited to include just the relevant and ominous views. Naturally it surfaced in the campaign that his plan was to “spread the wealth” and it looks for all intents and purposes like he was surprised by the question and revealed more than he intended.
So combining all these things and more, it certainly looks from this end like there are many unconstitutional things coming, such as socialistic economic policies – we already have moved more and more into redistribution as it is; it should be readily apparent why people will resist going even more quickly further into such policies. For at least 120 years leadership acknowledged that one’s property belongs to the person that made it/produced it/earned it, as their constitutional right. I would certainly resist leadership trying to take more of people’s property – even if it weren’t a disastrous economic move, which it is.
There are plenty of socialist systems in the world where people can do this; the US was not set up to be one of them, and it goes against our basic rights. Likewise, as I said, people can form their own societies within this one, voluntarily.
#2 “What Obama policies are related to this?” I have no idea (but again reason for concern; however that was not the intention of the quote. You had asked which EU countries were finding their own policies to their own detriments, and I had read that one recently. Then there was the French economy, which I think it should be clear that it SEEMS Obama wishes to move into – i.e. distribution, heavy taxation needed to support it, the *results* of doing that – exemplified in what France was experiencing. But it’s not just France. At any rate, as I said, the purpose was to provide examples. The person you asked the question of likely had other things in mind. As to what Obama policies are related to that particular statement by the queen? Possibly his ties to the PLO and his recent television interview in the ME. He had gone to such lengths to deny Muslim connections and then touted them in the interview, had strenuously claimed he would not tolerate a nuclear Iran and then when asked directly by the interviewer would no longer say that (only that their desire to wipe Israel off the map was not “helpful.”) But this is tangential to the purpose of quoting the Queen.
So, sometimes when someone says “If you want to live like the Europeans, go there; but you might find out like they have been finding out, that it sucks” the fact is, they might mean ALL of these things as opposed to the common claim that they are just foaming at the mouth right-wing bigots who are trolling you. They might just not feel like writing an entire treatise on the subject at that moment, and then when someone lashes back in anger, it devolves as it often has here with me…when really my complaint was that all I’m seeing is pretty nonfunny (and untrue in the case of the Limbaugh complaint) stuff that’s been done to DEATH already and my God can we move on from this one already? Then other people get pissy and you figure it’s probably not worth the effort because you’ve been down that road before, and others are just going to say nasty shit even if you take the time to explain, so might as well say at least a few provocative things and annoy them back. And it would really blow if this was to turn out to be, after all, a largely one-sided site that’s going to be poking at libertarians or conservatives and just be another leftist site when if there is a balance between those elements, we could ALL laugh and be good sports about it! Which was really the entire point. Sure, people will groan sometimes and say “fail” and fight, but it should remain good-natured if it’s going to be funny. This is why I love Cracked.com – they don’t veer all to one side and their shit is HILARIOUS as a result of that and really good writers.
You had asked which EU countries were finding their own policies to their own detriments, and I had read that one recently.
) and different policies certainly work in different ways in the different countries. I was therefore interested in what, more exactly, the poster was referring to.
Ah well, yes, no, I was asking it in reference to the post I was quoting the comment from, where the poster (sjv) in full said “My eyes are and have been opened since NObama came on the scene… obviously yours are not. If you want his already implemented policies… go live in the EU since they are already figuring out that those policies are not working there either.” I think a lot of countries are finding some of their own policies are bad. In fact, I’d hope every country does that, since – to my knowledge – no country is yet perfect.
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So, sometimes when someone says “If you want to live like the Europeans, go there; but you might find out like they have been finding out, that it sucks” the fact is, they might mean ALL of these things as opposed to the common claim that they are just foaming at the mouth right-wing bigots who are trolling you.
Yes, and I was honestly curious as to what the poster meant by it. The EU as a whole is still quite heteroeconomic and -political (if Bush can make up words, so can I!
They might just not feel like writing an entire treatise on the subject at that moment, and then when someone lashes back in anger, it devolves as it often has here with me…
Yes, the Internet (and definitely the rather awkward editing possibilities on this particular site) offers a wonderful plethora of possibilities for misunderstandings. I appreciate that you have taken the time to elaborate on these topics here, it has broadened my horizons, which is always good in my books. (Nooo, not changed my mind, that’d probably require brain surgery. ;p)
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And it would really blow if this was to turn out to be, after all, a largely one-sided site that’s going to be poking at libertarians or conservatives and just be another leftist site when if there is a balance between those elements, we could ALL laugh and be good sports about it!
For what it’s worth, being a proper leftist (not one of those rather right-wing American “lefties” ;p) I certainly am not too thrilled even with Bush-bashing (but by all the powers that be and be not, the man did say too many hilarious things to escape some ridicule for that if nothing else). I really do dislike non-factual mud slinging (unless it is obvious tongue-in-cheek), no matter which side is doing it. “With friends like that, who need enemies”, or however the saying goes. Alas, the only thing I can do about vulgarities is to avoid getting into them. Some times I fail, much to my own chagrin.
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I am starting to feel a bit rambling now, so I’ll stop before I start repeating myself.
And … This post of yours apparently did turn up at last, but one wonders what it’s doing here. Gotta love PK-randomness. :p
I’m really beginning to think that this comment section only exists for the sole purpose of letting certain individuals talk all kinds of BS and insult other people. Guess what!? It’s not illegal to have an opinion in this country and if you can’t find a mature adult way to carry on a debate than grow up or get off the site. Jeez.
It’s not illegal to immaturely talk BS and insult other people either, so the “get off the site” sentiment clashes somewhat with what you say first. But sure, it would be lovely with a generally more civilsed tone in the discussions here – would probably bring more quality to the “debates”.
As another proud Republican (and frankly, I like to think civil human being), I say hear hear! If people dislike this LOL, then by all means, they can make one of their own.
but of course, without the ‘former’ they become the three WORST words in the english language. the former makes all the diffrence.
especially the FORMER part.
haven’t been on here in quite some time. Good to see all the regulars are still here, pretentious and moronic as ever thinking that they matter on this board
Agreed….the word “former” makes all the difference in the phrase.
No, really Guess Again, do you seriously think Pundit Kitchen viewers are so stupid they need to be told why to lawl? You fail, please try again.. ^_^
I love how this has two hats…
I though it was:
Former President Jimmy Carter
your argument is invalid
man this caption blows
Finally, a caption that doesn’t attack good people
Are you sure that the picture wasn’t a typing mistake???