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LISTEN RUSH, I haven’t forgotten what you said about Chelsea. Say any crap about my daughters and it will take a team of doctors to pry my foot out of your lying, cowardly, bloated Oxycontin loving ass.

(Michelle Obama)

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  1. Literal says:

    Wait — is this a demotivator?

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Jesus, Mary and Joseph! I’ve seen Ru-Paul looking better than her in that shot

      (and for the record, in this case I mean the black drag queen, not my insult in ordinary for Dr Ron Paul, Libertarian and Theocrat.

    • Klingbeil says:

      pffft… she’d probably break one of her 4 inch long lee press-on-nails if she did anything besides being a diva

    • Rush says:

      who is rush?

    • Sudsy says:

      This is funny to me…although a better pic would have her reading a book to her kids and saying “The Evil Rush made fun of other little girls, and so we brought the Fairness Doctrine back, because dissent…er, making fun of little girls shouldn’t be tolerated.

      • slan agat says:

        Same old idiotic talking points regardless of the truth. Obama has explicitly come out against the Fairness Doctrine, but comedians like Limbaugh keep on saying he’s for it because they’re too blind and stupid to come up with anything true.

        Jackass.

        • Robert says:

          Which makes the assumption that Obama will keep his campaign promises. So far, he’s been a little spotty there. Every bill will sit on his desk for 5 days? Didn’t do. Most honest administration, get rid of corruption? In 2 weeks he’s appointed more corrupt people than any other administration. However, to be honest, Rush has said that Democrats want to bring about the Fairness Doctrine, not Obama specifically, and it’s Pelosi that keeps talking about the Fairness Doctrine.

      • Ernest says:

        The Fairness Doctrine was a damn good idea. The airwaves are public property, and should be administered like any other taxpayer-funded venture: neutrally.

        In Britain the BBC is taxpayer funded and therefore required to be politically neutral… and consequently is the best news organization in the world.

        • Robert says:

          I don’t know where you people got the idea that government funded=neutral, but it’s absolutely absurd. The first thing dictators do when they take over is to control the press and decide what’s “fair” to be on the air, and to prevent “lies” from being told about them. The result being no one has a freakin’ clue what’s going on until it’s too late. Of course there’s also the free speech argument. If you don’t like what someone is saying on the radio or TV, you can turn it off.

        • limi says:

          I agree… it’s because of the lack of neutrality that assholes like Limbaugh get filthy rich on their insipid, barely researched bull.

          • froofrou says:

            No, it’s because Limbaugh has a huge audience and advertisers see the ability to make money off him. If people didn’t listen to him (for whatever reason), then his advertising dollars would go away and he would be off the air. It’s like having South Park on Comedy Central, and all the people who were protesting that. They were told that if they didn’t like it, turn it off. The same goes for Limbaugh. If you don’t like him, you’re not being forced to listen to him. If you think there should be another voice in talk radio, go get a job at a radio station and work your way to the top, just like Limbaugh did.

    • KKK says:

      She is an ugly ass nappy-headed ho, who just happens to be married to the HNIC. If we get lucky only about 3 more years of seeing this fugly mug!

  2. Rontu says:

    What did he say about Chelsea?

    • Literal says:

      I seem to recall him calling her “the White House dog.”

      • ElbieSee says:

        I remember that too. That was cruel. She was only, what, thirteen when she first entered the White House? That’s an incredibly awkward age.

        Now I’m curious about what Rush Limbaugh looked like when he was 13. Something tells me I REALLY don’t wanna know.

        • charro says:

          I bet Chelsea Clinton knows… That is terrible. To a 13 year old girl (who probably already has horrendous self esteem issues) a dog. And I thought it was only classmates that could be so cruel…

            • Siava says:

              I remember the National Enquirer always dogging Chelsea, too. They even did a digitally aged picture of her to prove one day she would be “nicer to look at”. Jerks. Chelsea is much more beautiful today than the sad picture they came up with.

              • Bee says:

                Well, they were right: Chelsea Clinton does look better now than she did some years ago when her father was in the office.
                This woman looks like she will personally kill everyone who dares to come close to her kids…

                • Bee says:

                  And she does look an awful lot like her mother (is that good or bad?)

                  http://blafusel.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hillary-and-chelsea-clinton.jpg

                • Magdolene Lives says:

                  Hey, that’s a quality you want in a mother, y/y? ;^)

                • Canaduck says:

                  As well she should.

                  I am not a mother, nor do I intend to be, but if someone made a comment like THAT about my 13-year-old child I’d have to murder them.

                  I’m surprised this has such a low rating; apparently there are a lot of pro-Limbaugh (read: braindead) people on this site…?

                  • Robert says:

                    A lot of people on both sides made disparaging comments about Chelsea then. I think it’s ‘cuz she was possibly the most unattractive child to grace the White House in recent memory.

                    At least no one caller her a drunken whore, though.

                    • rhorho says:

                      You’re forgetting about how mean some people
                      were to Amy Carter.

                      • Robert says:

                        Before my time. But I believe it. Once upon a time we left the children alone. I’d imagine the Obama girls will be fairly safe from that for the time being, seeing as how they’re so young. There’s just not anything to make fun of.

                        • rhorho says:

                          I hope so. It’s certainly going to be a strange
                          world for them. Secret Service escorts, less
                          time with Mom and Dad, grown-up occasions
                          to attend, photographs taken everywhere
                          they go, etc.

                          The least the press could do is cut them a
                          little slack, and let them grow up as normally
                          as anyone in a fish bowl can.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          It’s never cut slack for royalty here…

                        • Robert says:

                          Which is odd, considering they directly contributed to the death of a princess.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          That was the Sauds… otherwise, if it’s the
                          bony idiot Sloane you’re referring to,then that
                          was a case of ‘not too special to wear a seat
                          belt.’

                        • Robert says:

                          Yeah, that certainly would have solved the problem. Doesn’t change the fact that if the paparazzi hadn’t been chasing her, it wouldn’t have happened. I have a special kind of loathing for the paparazzi, probably because that happened when I was still pretty young.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Getting in the car with a drunken driver probably didn’t help either…

                  • Literal says:

                    Not at all, and it’s fairly rude for you to make such a sweeping judgment.
                    It got a poor rating because it’s an unfunny, poorly executed example of the SSDD we’ve been seeing here for quite some time. We’re simply looking for some witty, fresh material not exclusively centered around Obama=win and Bush=fail. This ain’t it.
                    I for one, feel that no matter where you are on the political spectrum the aforementioned formula has been done to death.

                    • Anniee451 says:

                      Yeah that’s about the best synopsis so far. I do fear that some are just not going to be sick of it for a long time, but one can hope – because it has, as you say, been done to death.

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    He didn’t make the comment. And on what basis do you call someone who might enjoy listening to Rush Limbaugh sometimes “brain dead”? That is ridiculous.

                    • S.Cooper says:

                      Did. I saw it with my own eyes. My work hours had changed and it was the first time I’d ever seen his television show. He started by saying “You know there is a new White House cat, Socks.” I had listened to the radio show before that; as a mother, I never listened to him on tv or radio again.

                  • Ogre says:

                    “…but if someone made a comment like THAT about my 13-year-old child I’d have to murder them.”

                    Now, THERE’S braindead: a (presumed) liberal threatening to take someone’s life over a comment.

                • greens says:

                  And why shouldn’t she look like she would kill anyone who came near her kids? Can you imagine trying to raise kids normally when surrounded by all the media asshats every day? I would feel the same way (and be giving the same look) lol!

              • ElbieSee says:

                Not to mention sharp as a tack.

              • bgcmeowrrrr says:

                DOES anyone remember the hack job they did on Amy Carter? I do.
                (Fossil from the ’70s)

                This sort of thing is public Child Abuse when it occurs!

                • bgcmeowrrrr says:

                  This (my msg, 1-28 at 12:02 AM) was meant for Siava, Jan 27, 10:40 AM about Chelsea Clinton
                  & Amy Carter. OK I just saw yr post, Anniee451. In solidarity.

                  Rush should be indicted for humanity abuse. As well as Michael (Wiener?
                  Whiner?) Savage. Where have our community standards of decency
                  gone to?

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    No problem; I remember it well, as you do.

                    Rush was actually on the receiving end of a media hack job himself on this one, since he did not call Chelsea a dog. It IS possible someone on his staff screwed up the pictures on purpose, but he was quite pissed about the whole thing; he didn’t know it. He called her a cute kid.

                    • S.Cooper says:

                      R-i-i-i-i-g-h-t.

                      Except those of us who heard and saw it know that’s horse shit. It was a well-planned and executed gag and he smirked after he did it.

                    • A. says:

                      There *was no* White House dog at the time that Rush made the joke. (The “joke” was him saying “here’s the new White House dog,” and showing a picture of Chelsea, for those who don’t remember/were too young.) Since there, again, *was no White House dog*, what were his staffers supposedly *supposed* to be showing a picture of? (This was well before the “Hilary is mannish and ugly” meme had taken wing, so it most likely wasn’t that.)

                • Anniee451 says:

                  If you’d read one comment further you’d have seen that I said that – fellow fossil.

                  However, Rush did not call Chelsea Clinton a dog; he in fact called her a “cute kid” and there was a slip-up, which is quite obvious from the transcript.

                  I saw it at the time.

                  Unfortunately the press decided to claim that he MEANT for the slipup to happen (which it’s quite clear he didn’t from the transcript and if you’d seen it) and ever since then it has just become “true” in people’s minds that he called her a dog. MSM misrepresentation has succeeded once again in creating a myth and making it “true” when it isn’t.

                  However, I do remember the press being quite nasty to Amy Carter. And the Bush girls (as well as rank-and-file leftists/Bush-bashers.) But Amy was younger. At the time, I actually disliked her quite a bit myself, but I was allowed to, being a girl myself.

                  • Sasamigirl says:

                    Seriously? Rush is just as much of a shock jock as Don Imus, Mancow or any of the others. He is in the business of making people angry. So no, I don’t believe that he didn’t mean to do what he did. His ratings depend on being able to simultaneously piss of and elate a whole bunch of people. What better way to do this than to attack a young girl who is attached to someone as iconic as the president?

                    • Uncle Fester says:

                      Steady… she’s a member of Menas and an economist of the Chicago-Austrian School (with choreography by Fosse and music by Kander and Ebb)

                    • Robert says:

                      Wow…I missed this one. If Rush is really making you that angry, you probably need to take a deep breath, and not take yourself so seriously. Let’s face it, though, some people aren’t happy unless they’re pissed off, so maybe that’s the root of the issue.

          • Anniee451 says:

            People were just as nasty to Amy Carter and the Bush girls. It has pretty much been that families have not been off limits since Carter.

        • kingfysher says:

          If someone does find a 13 Y/O Rush Limbaugh picture, I’m sure it’ll be on Failblog.

      • Rontu says:

        Ouch. What a jackass.

  3. Lainie says:

    I think people have sort of forgotten what a motivational poster is supposed to be…this isn’t even close, and it most definately isn’t clever or funny.

  4. Trainwreck Chaser says:

    Yeah cause you aren’t crazy at ALL Michelle.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Can I call your daughter ‘ugly’? Hmmm? How about you’re a retard? There again, asswipe, you’ve proven that time and time again… but I think this time you’ve actually dug a hole…

    • Tessie says:

      “Yeah cause you aren’t crazy at ALL Michelle.”
      `
      Protective of one’s kids =/= crazy. I don’t think I’m any crazier than most of humanity, but I’d be very disinclined to tolerate insults directed at any members of my family.

      • Trainwreck Chaser says:

        Oh fair enough, you don’t mess with the daughters. Again I’m not justifying the comments said, all I’m saying is she scares me out of the fact that I think she is crazy and not that she’s gained my respect. The case isn’t closed though so if she does something amazingly awesome for someone or I find somethign like a biography then I’ll compliment her and say she’s cool.

        People are so afraid to be wrong on here, I could care less, I always like learning things.

        *Insert spiteful comment here*
        l
        l
        V

  5. ubr says:

    wow. we’re bringing up crap from 14 years ago?!
    please oh pretty please put up something timely and original…

  6. Stephen says:

    Rush = less than nothing. Let him say whatever he wants.

  7. Evil Wezil says:

    Vulgar and demeaning and I don’t even care for the woman or Obama.

  8. Rivahcat says:

    I believe she could (and WOULD) do it!!

  9. John says:

    this is awful… who the hell moderates these? is there seriously nothing better submitted than this

    • Literal says:

      If you hate this one, click the “See All Captions” link at the top.

      • ubr says:

        truer words have never been said. the “first ho” one is particularly bad.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          They missed out ‘Nappy Headed’…

          • Lainie says:

            I knew you were ignorant UF, but a racist?

            • Steve says:

              Who’s ignorant? I suppose you still think Don Imus should have been fired for saying it? Meanwhile Whoopie and Chris Rock drop the N-word repeatedly without consequence.

              Nappy Headed has nothing to do with race, YOU made it about race. I’ve seen plenty of nappy headed white, asian, and mexican ho’s…they come in all races, they all have nasty hair, and they all dress like ho’s.

              So doesn’t that make YOU a racist, since YOU are the one who views it as a racial comment?

              • ubr says:

                wow. UF was first making a joke… and then everybody jumped up and down about how racist it is or isn’t… it’s a F:ING joke!

              • Anti Fester says:

                “Waaaahhh!! Someone made fun of Michelle Obama !!!!”

              • Steve says:

                I would still like to know where it is written that nappy-headed refers only to black women.

                Personally I would expect the word ho to be the offensive part of the statement.

                @ubr, I couldn’t resist a response to her calling Fester an ignorant racist because he made a joke. Her comment seemed pretty out of line. I don’t think she was joking at all. I completely understand that UF was making a joke, but that isn’t the point.

                UF isn’t racist, he’s a jerk, but he’s not a racist.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              I was being sarcastic about the people who’d make a ‘First Ho’ LOL…

              At the risk of actually being racist: are you German?

            • Magdolene Lives says:

              He’s referring, I believe, to the remarks of one Don Imus, of the “nappy-headed hoes” infamy. Now THAT was racist. And sexist. And overplayed by the media et large.

            • Tessie says:

              “I knew you were ignorant UF, but a racist?”
              `
              I’m pretty sure that UF was quoting Don Imus rather than using the term “nappy headed” as his own descriptor, and I’m pretty sure he was doing so sarcastically.

  10. Polly says:

    And try spelling it right. Oxycodone. If you want your image to be taken seriously, use a dictionary.

  11. Elly says:

    Good concept, failed execution. This would have been better if it was just a caption, not a failed attempt at a motivational poster.

    • Alex says:

      You and your anal retentive ilk need to call the Waaambulance already.

      Not everyone has to conform to doing things as you or Lanie “think” they should be done.

      If you want to ape the Demotivator style, more power to you. This may have made it to the front page because it’s different.

  12. Literal says:

    You know, I’m actually starting to feel sorry for whoever’s LOL gets posted next … it had better be, dare I say, epic.

  13. Literal says:

    My words have been moderatificated — I got bushwhacked.
    Let’s see if they appear, hmmm?

  14. Sniper1123 says:

    The fact that drug war hypocrite Limbaugh has any ground to stand on when criticizing someone on looks is laughable. Hell I dont even like Obama one bit either.

  15. Ignatz says:

    Comment worth making, given the kerfuffle over his ‘fishing trip’ to the Dominican Republic a few years back. The man had 50 Viagra tabs, in a bottle made out to his doctor, hidden in his luggage. The DR has a problem with sex tourism, similar to SE Asia. Why, exactly, was Rush going to the DR with erection pills?

  16. Susan says:

    So, exactly what has he said about their kids, or is this a FAILed pre-emptive strike? Honestly, the Clintons started it all when they said their daughter was totally and completely off limits. No other presidents had ever said that, before or after. Guess they noticed she was looking rough at the time too…just like most other 13 YOs

    • Uncle Fester says:

      So, requesting people to leave their daughter alone made her a valid target? I see… and with that sort of logic prevalent, people wonder why the world is going to hell…

      Please, tell me you’ll never breed, nor try to raise kids…

      • Anti Fester says:

        They’re as off-limits as Palins kids were!!!

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Cool… I’d already got you as more or less a child molester, and posturing fool…

          If you make family values a core issue, then your family becomes an object of scrutiny… but you seem just to be a retard who trades on reflected glory…

          Come, prance some more…

        • Steve says:

          Apostrophe – use the apostrophe to show possession. Place the apostrophe before the s to show singular possession.

          Palin’s kids didn’t fall under scrutiny to my knowledge, only her parenting practices and abstinence only education, which could be considered relevant to the issues that arose during the campaign. And what about her other FOUR children?

          To be honest I don’t even know any of their names, I only know she has 5 children, so they couldn’t have been horribly smeared by the media as you seem to suggest.

  17. Delta Sierra says:

    She’s incredibly intelligent, so who cares what she looks like? If Limbarf had any brains he’d put a 5 second electronic delay on his mouth. Hm… is there a way we can put a 100 year delay on his scare-mongering, hate-spewing mouth?

    • Anti Fester says:

      Too bad about that darn old First Amendment, huh? I know you libs hate it but…

      • Uncle Fester says:

        AF- The Halo Champ of his Burger King speaks! The usual deathless prose.

        Lost any more buddies in the deep fat fryer?

      • Steve says:

        Yes, everyone knows that Liberals hate civil liberties…

        Thanks for the laugh AF!

      • Happy Hijabi says:

        Sorry, bubba….[this is directed to Anti Fester] but the First Amendment is not a free-for-all. If it were then the well-established Tors of Libel and Defamation wouldn’t be legitimate recourses in our court system.

        • BattleCry says:

          And you could yell “FIRE!!!!” in a movie theatre with no threat of prosecution

          • Steve says:

            @Happy
            You are confusing fact and opinion. The First Amendment IS a free-for-all when it comes to voicing opinions. Libel/Defamation/Slander only apply to statements presented as fact, which aim to cause harm or damage to an individual, business, or organization. Even that only applies if the entity claiming slander can bear proof that the statements made are indeed false.

            Yelling “Fire” in a crowded theatre infringes upon the right to safety of the occupants of said theatre. Any civil right becomes invalid the moment you use it to infringe upon the rights of others.

            Freedom and Equal Rights go hand in hand.

      • slan agat says:

        That would be why all your favorite right wing bloviators have preached violence against liberals who exercise it for the past eight years.

        Meaningless asswipe.

  18. mrbecker712 says:

    Seems no one here had problems bashing Palin at all or her family. Ignorant liberals…

  19. Big Julie says:

    Not a court in the land would convict her. They’d probably be too busy buying her a solid gold medal the size of a dinner plate.

    He commented on the sexual attractiveness of a thirteen-year-old girl, and not one conservative sincerely called him out for being a pedo freak. Not one.

    • Literal says:

      Umm … it makes me nauseated to be saying this, but in the interest of truth … where did he comment on her sexual attractiveness?
      -
      On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, “Did you know there’s a White House dog?” Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.
      -
      Nothing “sexual” in that one. Actually called her an animal.
      Sorry to burst your bubble [LINK]

      • Uncle Fester says:

        See… now, I wonder which right winger will stick to their guns sufficiently to call you a Liberal for bothering to cite the article there…

      • Anniee451 says:

        “On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, “Did you know there’s a White House dog?” Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.
        -
        Nothing “sexual” in that one. Actually called her an animal.
        Sorry to burst your bubble [LINK]”

        That is patently false. Transcript – he was doing a segment on the “In/Out” list when the Clintons moved IN and Bush moved OUT: “Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them–one of them in particular is. David Hinckley of–of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has–he’s got–it’s very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House. (A picture is shown of Millie the dog) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid. (Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…”

        The media did a hatchet job on him (as usual) claiming he did it on purpose (if you saw it, you know that is nonsense; not to mention that he was angry that it had happened) and from there sprung this *myth* about Socks and the pictures, which isn’t even close to the actual incident, and now people just repeat it as though it’s true.

        It’s like a game of telephone in first grade.

        THIS is how Rush has gained the false reputation that he has – instead of listening to him to see what he’s *actually* about, people take these media lies and distortions, play Telephone with them, and then say how evil and abusive and racist he is.

        Sorry to burst your bubble.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          So how is that not implying that Chelsea is a dog

          ’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House. (A picture is shown of Millie the dog) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid. (Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…”

          It certainly sounds scripted…

          So how did that blow anything out of the water?

          You really are slow…

          • Anniee451 says:

            Fister: EPIC fail. The lie deviates from the truth in significant ways; it simply does not work with the actual facts. But howsabout we try submitting it to Snopes anyway? You see, the ways in which the story changed are the very earmarks of an urban legend, A to Z.

            Let’s review the lie – the lie is that Rush held up a picture of Socks the cat and said that the White House had a cat. That he then said “Did you know the White House has a dog too?” and held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton.

            The reality is that he was on television with pictures behind him and said this: “Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them–one of them in particular is. David Hinckley of–of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has–he’s got–it’s very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House. (A picture is shown of Millie the dog) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid. (Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton) LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…”

            It doesn’t work, for many reasons.

            The segment was about the “In/Out” list by David Hinckley, in which he said that this season the cute dog was “out” of the White House, and the cute kid was “in.” The television show aired on November 6, 1992 – two months before the Clintons moved in to the White House. Two days after the election. Socks was not a media figure at this point and we were not on the information superhighway at the time with all this information at our fingertips. Millie, however, was a big media figure as the Bush’s dog during his tenure, and everyone recognized her readily. Of course, Socks is not a part of the urban legend at this point anyway. The pictures are behind him at this point, when he says the words from the transcript.

            Any flub that happened on the television show was gleefully pounced upon by the media, and as I say we were not on the information superhighway at this point, so the media was all we had. That or, you know, listening to the radio show and watching the TV show. He certainly talked about it a lot in the following weeks, as the story kept developing on television. So if you hadn’t seen it, all you hear is the mocking segments on the news about how Rush had had a flub the night before and it was particularly funny because it could make him look bad, if you wanted it to. Talk shows were huge at the time (you could watch them for 10 – 12 hours on all the major channels) so the hosts start picking it up and implying that he had let them flub the timing of the picture of Millie on purpose, to suggest that the little girl was a dog. Naturally it still has nothing to do with the cat, who no one knew yet.

            At this point, it’s still the reverse of the eventual lie – that he was saying “dog” while Chelsea’s picture was up, as opposed to saying “cute kid” while a picture of the dog was up. You see why that had to change? Doesn’t work. It doesn’t work in particular because it was an obvious mistake, since everyone knew Millie and would immediately recognize her – as a joke or implication on his part, it would not work because it isn’t much of an implication if the dog is immediately recognizable as your little amusing closing segment on news stories. You would have to use a strange dog for it to work that way. The order also had to be reversed to where he was saying “dog” while the kid’s picture was up instead of saying “cute kid” when the dog’s picture was up. See the reversal there? The opposite of what actually happened? And remember, the “cute kid” was NOT immediately recognizable, which is why it was a story. People wanted to know their new president and his cute little closing segments with his daughter – but the Clintons had not brought her out and paraded her around the way all the children in this election were; she was not a big media figure that everyone recognized.

            Over time it just became established that he had put Millie’s picture up on purpose and that the implication was that she was a dog. Eventually they stop explaining the incident since we all know now (and remember, we can’t just google it to see what he’d done) so once THAT part of the devolution was established it was able to devolve into the next stage – where everyone already “knew” he’d suggested she was a dog, so he was able to be villainized (as he has been at the beginning of the Obama administration as well, with Obama telling legislators they couldn’t listen to Rush and get things done) – so now that everyone ‘knew’ he’d made the implication on purpose, the order was no longer clear in anyone’s mind. It was able to shape-shift into the falsehood that it was Chelsea’s picture showing when he mentioned the Dog as opposed to the dog’s picture showing when he mentioned the cute kid.

            See what’s happening here yet? Telephone. A big long game of Telephone. Over the years it just became something to slam him with, now that the order was reversed.

            Eventually, of course, it devolved into just a shadow of the truth – that what had happened was he held up a picture of the unknown cat, Socks, and said that we all knew the White House had a cat (except the White House did NOT have a cat yet – remember this was in November, not after Jan. 20, and we did NOT in fact “know” that the Clintons had a cat anyway, even IF the claim worked with a cat “in the White House”) but we didn’t know the White House had a dog, and then the picture of Chelsea. This story no longer works with the theme of Hinckley’s “In/Out”, though, does it? Nor with the timing, since they weren’t in the White House and the cat was an unknown. Chelsea was an unknown. Millie was not. No, none of this fits. The two stories have too many inconsistencies either to be an implication or an outright declaration; too many outright reversals. They have all the earmarks of an Urban Legend to be given the Status “False.” The story is, in fact, a lie. All from a desire to villainize Rush Limbaugh and from too many people playing Telephone with too little information. And a very biased media. Now that the transcript is known and the devolution of the story, the veil is lifted and it doesn’t work anymore.

            Status: False.

            • Anniee451 says:

              “the lie is that Rush held up a picture of Socks the cat and said that the White House had a cat”

              Read: that everyone knows the White House had a cat.

              {LINK} Hehe – guess no one’s clued them in yet.

        • Tessie says:

          “THIS is how Rush has gained the false reputation that he has ”
          `
          Are you also going to pretend that he didn’t claim Michael J. Fox was faking his Parkinson’s, and then mimic his convulsions? Did he call Fox a “cute kid”, too?

    • ChiChi says:

      I’d help throw Michelle a parade.

      That’s conservatives for you. Hypocrites.

  20. Legion says:

    But the daughters of Republican vice-presidential candidates are fair game.

    • BattleCry says:

      While I understand the sentiment, fact is, they made it easy for the press. Of course the hypocrisy of the press, whom we all know were getting stoned and drunk in high school (how do we know? because we ALL did), really liked dishing it out to them. Chelsea was a kid and kept to herself. The Obama kids are under 13 for rock’s sake.

      • Legion says:

        I know, I think it’s gross that anyone is targeting any politician’s kids, it’s just that people only seem to get outraged when it’s Obama’s or Clinton’s kids. Everyone just laughs when the press takes cheap shots at the Palin girls, whose only crime was being the daughters of an unpopular politician.

        Much appreciation for the calm and reasoned reply, by the way. :]

        • Magdolene Lives says:

          I don’t really think “everyone” laughed. I think a great number of people rolled their eyes (myself certainly) at a woman who supports abstinence
          only education having a pregnant teenage daughter but I didn’t see any remarks on Bristol Palin’s appearance/attractiveness.

          • BattleCry says:

            And this is the legitimate arguement. “How can you expect any kid to follow abstinance only policies if the President/VP’s own daughter won’t do it.”

            It’s akin to Jim Bakker getting caught commiting adultery. Smacks of “do as I say, not as I can’t get my own damn kids to do”.

            Besides, you can’t make fun of Bristol Palin’s apperance….she’s a freakin’ hot (when not pregnant).

            Calm response? Man, you’re gonna ruin my reputation.

          • Scott says:

            You’re kidding right? ALL we heard about was the Bristol Palin “Scandal” for weeks and weeks!

            But I forgot, it’s a different set of rules when dealing with conservatives (and their kids).

            • Magdolene Lives says:

              “You’re kidding right? ALL we heard about was the Bristol Palin “Scandal” for weeks and weeks!”

              Really? Because I was hearing FAR more about Bill Ayers than I ever was about Bristol Palin. Also, if ya wanna listen for things Palin, her abysmal Couric interview gave the media far more fodder than her pregnant teenager daughter ever could.

            • BattleCry says:

              Scott…..context, context

              Rush makes fun of Chelsea for being an unattractive girl

              The Bush twins get bashed for being caught drinking underage (maybe it was only one of them)

              Bristol Palin really wasn’t the heart of the scandal so much as it was a slam against her mom’s abstinence stand on premarital sex. No one really made fun of Bristol so much as she was a way for the left to make fun of her mother. I’m sure there were some douchebags out there that really went after her (the same folks that will also cry foul if any other single mother in the nation was made fun of by an conservative writer, talk show host etc). Those folks are sensationalists, payback artists, and most of them aren’t heard by the majority of the nation since they are all on Air America.

              • Uncle Fester says:

                Well, the right had a near policy of Omerta on the subject… but smearing Air America really doesn’t help the point…

                • BattleCry says:

                  No, but it makes me feel better. Also:

                  Air America’s flagship station in New York City averaged a whopping 0.5 share in both the winter and spring 2008 Arbitron ratings books.

                  If you call the sun hot is it really smearing it?

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    No, but their content wasn’t as you described it. Rush Limbaugh is a lseavy, druggie, who has no more right to comment on Family or Drugs than Lord Bryon.

                    • rhorho says:

                      His “might makes right” is fail, too. Air America is
                      making great strides against the monopolistic efforts
                      of right-wing radio. Based on the outcome of this
                      past election, Air America is obviously not dying
                      from lack of interest, as he wants to believe.

                      An entire LOL was devoted to the subject last year.
                      Minerva posted links and provided excellent
                      information on the topic. Does anyone remember
                      which LOL that was?

                      Air America is not available in my area, so my
                      interest in it doesn’t work into radio listening
                      statistics, and I’m certainly not the only one.
                      I listen to the live stream, as do many others.

                      [LINK] Air America Live Stream

        • Uncle Fester says:

          As I said above, you want to legislate ‘family values’ then you’re bringing you family to the table for dissection… The GOP got what they deserved with that one… and some of us DO remember the right-wing pundit’s having a solid go at Britney Spear’s sister and her parents, then claiming that the un-wed pregnancy of a child of one of their own (by the son of a woman who was caught with sever thousand oxcontin tabs and forged prescriptions) was wholly different…

          How is that wholly different? Nail one to a tree, nail them all. you don’t want your family to become of interest, don’t make ‘family’ part of the platform…

          • Scum says:

            I remember when Dan Quayle went after Murphy Brown! A friggin fictional TV Character, for having a baby out of wedlock!
            -
            I’m with you on this one. I think if you speak against ‘it’, or vote against ‘it’,
            your own version of ‘it’ is up for scrutiny. If you’re trying to tell me how I need to live my life based on whatever passes for ‘morals’ in your words, your actions had better live up to those words or prepare to be skewered alive.
            -
            This is why I think it is perfectly acceptable to ‘out’ closeted gay people who vote against gay rights; women who’ve supported abortions for themselves or family members, yet speak out or vote against it.
            etc etc

          • Mykpfsu says:

            Except the slams against the Spears family was about the WHOLE family. Mainly about the mother who seems to view her daughters as nothing more then money trains. If Jamie Spears had gotten pregnant and Britney been a model citizen no one would have said anything. Except Britney has her scitzo/druggy behaviour, marrys a douche, gets it anulled the next day, goes and marries another douche, gets knocked up twice, once supposedly to try to save the marriage, then endangers said kids due to her freaky behavior. All the while no one in the Spears family is trying to put the brakes on the train wreck (like say the parents). Then Jamie gets pregs at age 16 and we begin to get Deja Vu.
            On Top of that Sarah Palin NEVER forced her beliefs on anyone else. The Alaskan School System had a variety of family type courses to choose from some of which were not abstinence education.
            Also not just the whack jobs but several high up democrat pundits (i.e Andrew Sullivan) started spreading rumors that Trig was really Bristol’s baby and nort Sarah’s. These rumors also made it to Barack Obama’s sponsored websites with admin approval. Course these were also the same pro choice liberals who attacked Sarah for having Trig (oh no, someone didn’t about a down syndrome baby….the horror) and how she handled that pregnancy. Quite frankly Sarah Palin scares the shit out of liberals. A successful self made woman who can have a political career and a family….and she’s republican.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Family values are still family values… make them an issue, expect to be aniled if you’re not The Cleavers.

              • Literal says:

                From “Interesting Ideas: Leave it to Beaver Lies”
                -

                (Beaver) He also is a pathological liar, a kid whose self-image is so poor that it can be sustained only through fantastic fabrications. When he’s not trying to incompetently fib his way clear of trouble, he is busy making up aggrandizing stories about Ward’s alleged wartime heroism or about Indian battles on the site of his home. But then lying comes naturally to a kid who would do anything to avoid his father’s temper and gain his parsimonious approval.
                -
                Life sucks everywhere!

          • Tessie says:

            “some of us DO remember the right-wing pundit’s having a solid go at Britney Spear’s sister and her parents, ”
            `
            The best part of that is that right around the time the younger girl’s pregnancy was made public, Mama Spears was forced to scrap a book she’d written on “Parenting Skills”. You just can’t make this stuff up.
            `
            BTW, the Dad’s name is Jamie, the Mom’s name is Lynn, and the daughters are Britney and Jamie Lynn. So apparently, they only know three names, and one of them is misspelled.

  21. Rontu says:

    OMG I’m bored with this picture already!
    Is it me or is pundit kitchen (and ICHC) a LOT slower with putting up new LOLs nowadays? I’m bored at work, I need something funny!

  22. Me says:

    Attacking dissent, yes!

  23. Spreadthewub says:

    This picture scares me o_o she looks like she would deliver on that promise, too. It’d be best for Rush to just pretend like Sasha and Malia (am I the only one who thinks that sounds like Malaria?) don’t exist or he’ll probably get his rather large butt kicked.

  24. Lee-E says:

    I would make a joke about the Obama children in this space, but I’m scared now. ( Admit, so are you)

  25. bbigi398 says:

    Good to see this place is still butthurt conservative central. Do we not want someone hurting that fat junkie Rush’s widdle feelings? I’m sure some ho-hos and Oxycontin will help.

  26. Scary says:

    o i get it

    lol

  27. Luna says:

    So you mean she doesn’t always look that evil? I’m not looking forward to 4 years of seeing her everywhere…

  28. Uncle Fester says:

    I’m still waiting to see evidence of intellect. Not a glimmer. Nothing… you look int it’s dead, black eyes and see less soul than a snake…

    But enough about Anniee451 …

    • Spreadthewub says:

      Do you have to attack every comment against Obama or Liberals that you see? can’t you just leave us right-wingers alone and go back to putting your tongue down Anti Fester’s throat?

      • Scum says:

        You’ll be left alone when you deserve to be left alone…

        • Spreadthewub says:

          So you justify attacking people because of their political views? so because I have different political views I deserve to be bashed? Why, that’s hateful! I’m suprised such a good little Democrat like you would be so mean! aren’t you supposed to spread love?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Oh do stop whining… like so many, you seem to want to hand it but not
            take it… and it’s mostly due to the fact the you keep trolling out the same few boring comments again and again and again and and again and and again and and again and and again and…

            Get the drift… not put on your big girl panties and get over it… and try to be ‘amusing’ without being ‘trite’

            • Spreadthewub says:

              I’m fine with “taking it” if I wasn’t I’d avoid you like the plague, you seem to enjoy making nasty comments.

              • Aedriel says:

                I read that as “I don’t mind being on bottom.” But then I’m a pervert..

              • Uncle Fester says:

                Let’s try and explain it to your dumb little head…

                “Michelle is butt ugly” became a political opinion when?
                It may be a fact, but it’s not political. It’s not overly funny.
                In fact, I think it’s pretty stupid. and since it’s my opinion
                that stupidity should be stamped on when it’s vigorous and
                loud, I’m ‘nasty’…

                Don’t care what your politics are, if they’re reasoned, then
                may your imaginary friend go with you. What passes for
                ‘politics’ from the right wing atm is
                ‘Michelle is ugly’
                ‘Obamessiah’ style comments
                ‘Wasn’t it AWFUL how they treated that poor Sarah’ when
                even the source of the rumour repudiates it rubbish and
                their own wishful thinking.
                Declarations of their own, God like intelligence, while cast-
                ing sub-racist comments disingenuously and claiming it’s
                other people’s evil minds…
                &nbsp
                I could go on
                &nbsp
                It’s repetitive, and it’s stupid, and it gives everyone on the
                right a bad image even when they are reasonable.
                &nbsp
                So, do stop bellyaching about it, and make some GOOD
                points dammit!

          • Scum says:

            - First, who the fLIck said I was a democrat.
            - Second, pick a name and stick with it
            - Third, playing the victim might work in the circles you’re used to, but it’s quickly spotted and trashed here. Give it up, and find a new ploy.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        you want me too? God… suddenly everyone wants some of the glob of man that is THE FESTER… take a number I’ll get to you…

        • Spreadthewub says:

          I’m not Anti Fester.. I don’t use other identities, hiding behind other names isn’t my thing.

          • Aedriel says:

            *tosses a rock over wub’s head*

          • Uncle Fester says:

            I didn’t say you were, I said you wanted me… wholly different…

            Otherwise, I have problems understanding you amongst the butt hurt whining of ‘the nasty man who disagrees with me was harsh’… I’m not much interested which side you’re on… keep up Teh Stoopid, get Fester telling you it’s Teh Stoopid…

  29. Anniee451 says:

    You can dish it out but not take it Festering?

    You’re just mad that she’s so ugly. And downright MEAN looking. :D

  30. Hannah says:

    Does anyone else think its pathetic the first thing the comments bring up is how she looks?

    • Uncle Fester says:

      More it’s a bad photo… which is down to the photographer being crappy

    • Literal says:

      No I didn’t. I FIRST asked if it was a demotivator.
      Her looks were questioned SECOND. Get it right.

    • Anniee451 says:

      That’s because she’s ugly (but so is her mate.) And that is a particularly, downright mean photo – I’m sorry, *that* was the potential humor in it, and instead it was used to attack…Rush Limbaugh LOL. Uh, ok.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        So speaks the master race… Don’t think the Planet of the Apes comment was missed for what it was… Tell me, is it the Civil War or the War of Northern Aggression in your house?

        • Anniee451 says:

          No dice, after 8 years of Chimpy McBushitler the Chimp BS do I care what you or anyone else think of any references; in that picture that’s who she looks like to me, and it has nothing to do with my race (which you don’t KNOW anyway.)

          The War of Northern Aggression and The Civil War both, actually. Smoke on that one, alien – why would I care what a foreigner thinks of that?

        • Anniee451 says:

          No dice, after 8 years of Chimpy McBushitler McChimp I don’t care what any alien or foreigner or alleged countryman thinks of any references I find funny. Which have nothing to do with my race, which in fact you do not know.

          And of course it’s the War of Northern Aggression as well as The Civil War. So what? Why would it matter what you think of that?

        • Anniee451 says:

          Well, I tried to answer you twice; looks like they’re not going through. Tough tiddie I guess.

        • Anniee451 says:

          Think hard before you call people racist; you guys are making the term meaningless with constant race-baiting. After 8 years of McChimpy Bushitler McChimp, I’m not interested in your assessment of my references. Or do you seriously think monkeys = black people?

          The War of Northern Aggression and the Civil War both, of course.

      • Alex says:

        Anniee451:

        Is your name a veiled Ray Bradbury reference? I’m willing to set you on fire to test it. I figure trolls like you make excellent kindling.

        • Anniee451 says:

          It’s not a “veiled” reference at all.

          I didn’t realize anyone who disagreed with your politics was a troll, and that the leftists have control and dominion of the site. I thought it was for political humor. Fool me twice, shame on me!

          • Alex says:

            And she’s a whiny victim troll. Oh, poor Anniee451.

            Such a perfect stereotype of the modern conservative that loves to bully and can’t handle dissent.

          • rhorho says:

            According to your fearless leader: “Fool me twice . . . uh . . . can’t
            get fooled again!”

            FTFY

        • Scum says:

          You’re guessing she’s made of paper? I don’t think she has that much substance.
          But, like you, I think of that novel, and Annie Get Your Gun when I see the name.

          • Anniee451 says:

            So…what did I do to YOU exactly? And this Andrew character just randomly calls people trolls and talks about setting them afire. Meanwhile Fester goes about flinging diarrhea on everyone who isn’t like him.

            Weird.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Again, the Master Race speaks… and still she just whines… go on, tell us how clever you are again…

              • Anniee451 says:

                Meh, your bigoted race-baiting is really so overdone, I don’t know why you’re not sick of it. I’m not the one who thinks black people are monkeys, or thinks a movie reference means that they are. That’s yours. I happen to think melanin is pretty meaningless as to differences in human beings. But for 8 years Bush was the Chimp, and I’m not going to worry about your like or dislike of my references.

                And, dumbass, I said “tiddie” because it seems apparent something is not going through despite the lack of curses in my post. DUH.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  Not at all… The usual cry of the racist is ‘honi soit que mal y pense’ whn challenged, thus it was expected… and you’ve not let a single fact get inthe way of anything you said, so I don’t see there’s much chance of anything much bothering your tiny, pale-pink, brain… but please, continue to put us retards in our place with your blistering intelligence…

                  Tell us how the world was created 6000 years ago, please.
                  Let us know how one’s daughter’s shotgun wedding to the son of a drug pusher represents ‘family values at their finest’.
                  There you go… couple of good ones from Palin’s known beliefs and espoused values…

                  • Robert says:

                    Actually, the world being created 6000 years ago was a made up position later quoted by the genius Matt Damon-put yourself in good company there, Fester. And can someone please explain to me how a) getting married to the mother of your child is such a horrible thing and b) how long we’ve been holding children responsible for the acts of their parents?

                    • Aedriel says:

                      IMO: because it’s fscking backwards.

                      What good will come of A? Be realistic, now…
                      And pushing someone to marry someone who grew up with drugs in the background doesn’t always come out bad, but come on, be consistent. I find it kind of contradictory to pressure marriage for the sake of family when a pregnancy comes up, and to ignore what kind of grandparents the child will be in the presence of.

                      One day they’ll start issuing breeding licenses and this bullsh*t will be done with. :twisted:

                      • Aedriel says:

                        How the hell did this end up here?

                      • Robert says:

                        Well, besides the fact that single parent households produce a greater number of criminals and suicides, I can’t think of any reason for parents to get married. And as far as grandparents go, by that logic the Obama girls will be way screwed up because their grandfather was a serial philanderer that left children all over the world and on multiple continents.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Well, besides the fact that single parent households produce a greater number of criminals and suicides, I can’t think of any reason for parents to get married.
                          I believe this is a case where statistics don’t tell us the whole story. Not at all interested in trying to tie this to the previous parts of this conversation, I just find this particular ‘fact’ interesting. I’ve heard it quoted before, for instance as an argument against gay parents. I would love to see those numbers broken down into all the other possibly relevant statistics about said single parents – atheir age, their social “class”, their families’ (dys-)functionality, their economy, etc.

                        • Robert says:

                          From what I’ve seen (and this is a bit unscientific, I know), but the various other factors mention don’t seem to have nearly the effect of broken families. As far as arguments against gay adoptions, the issues involved there have a lot more to do with the effects of parents on their children’s development and how each parent contributes something to the psychological development of their children. Not saying that they shouldn’t be able to adopt, but those are the arguments most often brought up.

                        • Danbala says:

                          From what I’ve seen (and this is a bit unscientific, I know), but the various other factors mention don’t seem to have nearly the effect of broken families.
                          Equally unscientifically, my experience is the other way around. :)
                          .
                          I am having horrible posting problems today, communication with pk seems a bit b0rked. (Problem is on pk-side, not mine, as far as I can make out.) Anyway, my first attempt at this reply ended up at bottom of page eventually (after saying I had already said this) so if this ends up being a double post here instead, I blame pk.

                        • Robert says:

                          Well, part of the reason it’s hard to tease apart little details like that is because they so often overlap. I do know that once upon a time there were fewer single parent households and less economic hardship, as well as less crime. Of course, we also used to treat crime seriously, so that may be a different issue entirely.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Having pondered this a bit more, with more caffeine and nicotins in my system, I think we have societies that function quite differently when it comes to child-raising, families, etc. It’s probably very hard to compare the situations.

                        • Robert says:

                          Certain amount of truth to that. My points are made largely based on the system we have set up here. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar enough with Swedish culture to make any informed comments on the social situation there.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Again, I have a few more thoughts about this. I think where our opinions start to be different is already in the “broken family”. I agree that a broken family is probably not the best for a child. I do not see what marriage has to do with broken families. Possibly because I have so many experiences of all the combos in my surroundings over the years, which is also why I doubt that the “single parent households – more crime” is that easy. I would rather say that marrying against peoples’ wills, just because the one “knocked up” the other, seems a good way to make sure you’ll get a “broken” family in the end.

                    • Aedriel says:

                      IMO: because it’s fscking backwards.

                      What good will come of A? Be realistic, now…
                      And pushing someone to marry someone who grew up with drugs in the background doesn’t always come out bad, but come on, be consistent. I find it kind of contradictory to pressure marriage for the sake of family when a pregnancy comes up, and to ignore what kind of grandparents the child will be in the presence of.

                      One day they’ll start issuing breeding licenses and this bullsh*t will be done with. :twisted:

                    • rhorho says:

                      It’s a little late in the season for scarecrows, but it
                      was nice of you to bring them here.

                      *plants Matt Damon, Married Parents, and
                      responsible children scarecrows in field*

                      BTW, Unc was calling out a racist who employed a
                      transparent defense. He then associated her with
                      Young Earth Creationists, who hold the belief
                      that the planet is much younger than scientific
                      evidence indicates. The Earth age claims vary from
                      6,000 to 10,000 years. Matt Damon didn’t make up
                      the movement to which Unc referred.

                      [LINK] Wiki Article on YEC

                      • Scum says:

                        It’s a little late in the season for scarecrows, but it
                        was nice of you to bring them here.

                        I love how you put things at times ;-)

                      • Robert says:

                        I didn’t say Matt made it up. I said he repeated it later. I know responsibility is a little passe in your world, but I don’t see why being responsible with your offspring is so unbelievable.

                        And no, Fester was accusing someone of racism because she pointed out that it seems to be the left in this country who think minorities are inferior. We have to continue to provide hands outs to a group of people who are in many cases 6th generation Americans. And before you start saying “well, this country had institutionalized racism for years”, keep in mind that the Irish and Chinese have managed to overcome the racism against them, and first generation immigrants from Africa, China, and India who learned English as a second language have no problem making themselves into successes. Of course, that’s Fester’s trick: accuse someone of heinous crimes against humanity because he disagrees with them.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Robert, you don’t *know* responsibility is
                          passe in my world, because you don’t *know*
                          me. Silly, silly Robert!!

                          My implication was that your use of married
                          parents, responsible children and Matt Damon
                          is called Straw Man Fallacy, a type of Red
                          Herring Fallacy.

                          You logically distracted from the topic at
                          hand by throwing “straw men” into the
                          argument. “Straw men” are typically used
                          when the arguer wants to debate an easier
                          topic to win than the one being discussed.

                          Wouldn’t it be great for you if I argued
                          *against* family? *Against* responsibility?
                          Woot!

                          Well, sadly, what you wrote didn’t apply to
                          what Unc said, so I had a little fun at your
                          expense. I’m silly like that sometimes.

                          [LINK] Good website: Learn more about
                          this and other fallacies.

                        • Robert says:

                          I’m familiar with the straw man. That, non sequitor, and ad hominem are favorites of politicians. I was actually insulting Fester’s intelligence by saying he agreed with what Matt Damon said. And my point was that criticizing someone because they married their baby daddy or criticizing a child based on the sins of their parents is asinine. That said, you’re right, until you give me some sort of indication that you have certain opinions on responsibility, family, and the like, I shouldn’t ascribe certain beliefs to you just because we disagree. That’s also one of Fester’s tricks, and it irritates me when I do it. I apologize.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Well, okay…

                          *squeezes toes into warm sand*

                          You caught me in a good mood, so NP.

                          That website is a good one, though.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          OK, Robert… you posted a lot of bile there, but really you didn’t actually say anything, other than you really don’t like me. Fine by me, I’ve got on the wrong side of more dangerous than you..

                          Can you tell my WTF your point was?
                          That Palin isn’t a young earther?
                          That her family values platform works?
                          What?

                        • Robert says:

                          @rhorho:
                          That is a cool website…I’ll totally have to show it to my Engl 11 instructor. He’ll appreciate it.

                          @ Fester:
                          I did say quite a bit, but that’s OK. Let me summarize.
                          It’s not that I don’t like you, per se, it’s that I find your style of debate puerile. I haven’t been able to find anything reliable that says Palin was a flat earther. As near as I can tell, the only person was the librarian. I wonder if this was the same librarian who said Palin demanded books that weren’t out yet be banned from the library. As far as family values goes, I don’t think that marrying the girl you knocked up is the wrong decision. It requires maturity and a sense of responsibility, sorely lacking in society in general.

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Robert: Please show evidence that marrying
                          someone because of a pregnancy is better for
                          a child than putting the child through a
                          dysfunctional early childhood with parents who
                          loathe and resent each other.

                          Your assertion means nothing, otherwise.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Crap! “Than” should be “by.”

                        • I don’t see how marrying the Baby Mamma is responsible to the child. It doesn’t mean you will get along, it doesn’t mean you will be a good father, it just means you sign up for tax benefits and claim to love the woman. Hell, most times it just means tax benefits.

                          Marry the woman for yourself, not the kids. Don’t blame kids for marriage. Being a good father is manning up, not this “You break it, you bought it” mentality about women and marriage.

                          If they actually care about each other and want to spend that kind of time together, awesome, they have all my support in the difficulties ahead. If they don’t… This is going to get very messy for them both and the kid. Especially the kid.

                        • rhorho says:

                          My point, exactly. For some reason, Robert
                          seems to believe that a child growing up in
                          an unhappy household with two parents is
                          better off than a child growing up in a
                          household with one parent.

                          He has made a baseless assertion that most
                          criminals come from single-parent house-
                          holds. Moreover, he doesn’t take into account
                          that some of those households were unhappy
                          two-parent households when the future
                          criminals were young.

                          Statistics indicate a relationship between
                          criminal conviction and childhood poverty,
                          and a relationship between single-parent
                          households and childhood poverty. Perhaps
                          he’s drawing some sort of faint connection
                          there, but doing so, without addressing the
                          issue of poverty is irresponsible, at best.

                        • Scum says:

                          They believe that because that’s what the right-wing teaches, and they’re required to believe it or they can’t be ‘good republicans’. It’s a result of the Republican party being taken over by the religious reich. Real republicans (and there are very few of those left) know better.
                          To them a family is straight, Christian (and not just any flavor of Christian, ie Catholics are really from Satan), married in a Christian church. Can’t divorce. It doesn’t matter if the husband and wife actually hate each other. Can’t have sex outside of marriage. Can’t know any gay people unless of course they’re in a stereotypically gay role like hairdresser, and then you can tolerate them, but you have to make sure that all your friends know they’re going to burn in hell.

                          They believe a single parent is one of the worst things you can do to a kid, the only thing worse would be two male or two female parents. They feel it is far preferable to let the kid be in an orphanage or bounce around foster homes than to be in a stable loving family that deviates in any way from their perfect scenario.

                          Of course the fact that the bible belt has the highest rate of divorce, the highest rate of unwed pregnancy is beside the point. Once again, it’s a case of do as we say not as we do.

                        • froofrou says:

                          I love the broad brush. Tell me, does it get hard to carry something as wide as the side of a barn?

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          I’d not expect a ‘sane’ response from Roberto…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Frou… care to dispute the points? I’ve not seen one thing there that I’ve not seen in other statistics…

                        • Scum says:

                          Me too!
                          They’re easy to carry if you get the kind that folds up to wallet size. I slip it in next to my credit cards.

                        • Scum says:

                          I think Froo’s point here might be that not everyone who identifies as a christian, nor everyone who identifies as a republican would act or believe as I’ve laid out. She’s right of course, but the ones who do think and act as I’ve laid out are the vocal ones.
                          -
                          I’d love to know why the rest of them aren’t more vocal. Why they’ve let their party and their religion get taken over by these people.

                        • froofrou says:

                          That is exactly my point, and the problem is, us normal Christians (shut up, Fester) are shouted down by the idiots, as you on the left are shouted down by idiots like Michael Moore.

                        • Scum says:

                          I forgot to add that I buy all my broad brushes from Acme of course!

                        • Danbala says:

                          I’d love to know why the rest of them aren’t more vocal. Why they’ve let their party and their religion get taken over by these people.
                          I wonder that about a lot of things. I have formed the theory that it’s simply the nutcases (of any flavour) that get the “media”. Nutcase saying outrageous things is far more selling than relatively normal person saying sane stuff.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          I’ve said it before, and I’ll probably say it
                          many more times before I die:-

                          Politics IS Religion…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          “Normal Christians” since talking to Zombies is commonplace…

                        • Scum says:

                          @Danbala
                          I agree, but is that a fault of the media, or of ourselves?

                          If it wasn’t that people are attracted to sensationalistic tales the media would have no benefit in presenting stories that way.
                          -
                          I think it’s probably a part of the same internal mechanism that makes us love to be frightened (scary movies, rollercoaster etc). I think it’s an adrenalin rush. I also think people love to show how smart they are, so anytime they here something new they can share, they will, without questioning whether or not it actually makes sense. Both of those fall under the ‘sky is falling’ scenario.

                        • @Uncle Fester: At the very least it is a belief system. Definitely has connotations of good vs evil while ignoring that both happen in skewed measures within their own side.

                        • Scum says:

                          Of course, I should have phrased that:
                          “the fault lies not within our media, but within ourselves”.

                          ah well

                        • Danbala says:

                          @Scum:
                          Yes, I think so too. I would certainly not try to blame it on the media. We-the-people buy the carp, after all. I only meant that I think this is why strange and scary fundamentalists seem to scream louder than the relatively normal believers- they get all the megaphones.

                        • Scum says:

                          argh *hear*, not here. (but you could hear here)

                        • Robert says:

                          Goodness gracious, I walk away for an day, and the world explodes. I know this is a crazy idea, but maybe you shouldn’t be spreading your seed about if the woman you’re screwing is such an unattractive life partner. It amazes me that in today’s world two people who get together by choice aren’t guarenteed to make it 5 years, but once upon a time all marriages were arranged and everyone seemed to get along and adjust just fine. Not that I’m advocating for arranged marriages, but it seems to me that whether your marriage is miserable or not is as much of a choice as whether or not you’re going to screw your girlfriend and rely on the “pull and pray” method or take the 30 seconds it takes to get condoms from a grocery store. Christ on a cracker, this whole argument is ridiculous. The problem with the whole single parent issue is that the children so often become wards of the state and/or inhabitants in prisons.

                          Conversely, if you don’t want to take the responsibility to care of your broodlings, there are plenty of people out there who are unable to conceive who would love to adopt your little crumb cruncher and have the means to do it.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Once upon a time, wife beating was acceptable too…

                        • Robert says:

                          I’m not sure what “wife beating” and “not creating wards of the state” have to do with each other, but nice try. My point was that people used to be able to get married and be happy. Yeah, it took a little thing called effort, shock of shocks, but it was possible. I’m the child of divorce, and let me tell you, I would have given anything for my parents to have put aside their immaturity and stay together. It sucks, and I hated it, and you may think it’s better living with your parents to not be together if they can’t get along, but I would have traded it in a heartbeat.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Living in a war zone is short on laughs.

                        • Robert says:

                          Maybe so, but so is being the mortar.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Aah. My parents also got a divorce while I was akid, and I am just happy that not more people saw my mom as a marriage-failer or a quitter for that. :)

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Why on earth (all 6000 years of it) would one
                        make up something like that?
                        TBH, my more outre comments are rigourously
                        true, and if I’ve got a detail wrong on something
                        like that, I will correct it.

                      • Robert says:

                        Oh, and it occurs to me this is a bit late, but I’m not really sure it’s completely fair to scarecrows to compare them to Matt Damon. I’m pretty sure any scarecrow could out-think ol’ Matt.

            • Scum says:

              Who’s Andrew?
              Why do people on your side of the fence try to make this personal? You don’t have to do anything specifically to ME. It’s not about you. It’s about your idiocy.
              -
              I was commenting on the lack of substance in your posts.

              • Anniee451 says:

                I guess you haven’t read any of them. Or contrasted them with the shitheaps Fester leaves all over that I’ve been responding to. That’s fine – just a typical shallow commenter :)

                • Scum says:

                  I’ve read them all, and in the words of this site, they’re full of fail.
                  -
                  Why would I contrast anything you write against Fester’s writing in
                  order to find substance? Can’t your thoughts stand on their own?
                  -
                  Substance is substance regardless of what else is nearby.
                  -
                  If your ramblings can’t stand on their own, don’t blame him. Blame yourself, your education, your church or your parents if you really want to, but blaming fester or anyone else up here is childish.

          • Alex says:

            Scum, I wasn’t assuming she was made of paper. Crap burns too.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          OI! burning books is Anniee451′s domain… she’s the Palinista…

          • Anniee451 says:

            Which only shows you know nothing but far leftist DU and KOS-type slime rumors about Palin instead of anything real. Every last one of them debunked or irrelevant to begin with, but you’ll just keep flinging that poo at us forever.

            How predictable.

            • Alex says:

              You are just too stupid to shut up, Anniee451.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              No, I was going by your veiled accusation of Mrs Obama looking like an ape….
              Ms Palin’s sect have a long and noble tradition of suppressing books ‘unsuitable’ for their congregation. Since she attends and make all sorts of the same noises as they do, it is logical that she approves of the matter when they’re banning another book. The US is great for burning books though. Old Wilhelm Reich had that when the Fed burned all his works in incinerators across the US in 1957…

              I bet you think the world is 6000 years old too :)

              • Scum says:

                Come on, no one is that stupid. It’s 48 years old.

              • Anniee451 says:

                That isn’t what I said; you jump to conclusions like all race-baiters.

                Now what’s this? So if Palin doesn’t let her children read Book A or B, because she agrees with her church that they aren’t suitable for young children, that equates to “book burning” and acts of government against the people?

                I’m sorry, but no. She never banned or attempted to ban any books from public consumption. Asking the librarian about the larger *subject* is not banning, burning, or an attempt to ban. It is a question.

                Now tell me about how Bristol is really Trig’s mother and Todd Palin is both the grandfather and dad, ok?

                • Scum says:

                  Now tell me about how Bristol is really Trig’s mother and Todd Palin is both the grandfather and dad, ok?

                  See, regardless of where this rumor first came from (I know it was on left-wing sites, but I don’t know who exactly first came up with this notion), as soon as it was shown to be false, the left stopped talking about it.
                  -
                  It’s the right-whiners that can’t STFU about it – still.
                  It’s you all who are keeping this crap alive and blaming everyone else.
                  -
                  No one plays victim like the right-whiners.

      • ElbieSee says:

        1. You see a woman, and the first thing you attack is her appearance.

        2. Your choice of the word “mate” is unfortunate, as if you consider the Obamas sub-human.

        3. You whine like a squeaky door whenever somebody calls you out.

        Quit. Posting.

        • Anniee451 says:

          When she’s ugly, yes.

          Maybe I just said “mate” to annoy your ilk? I really hate bigoted race-baiters, and will tend to trick them at their own game.

          Sub-human? Only the same way Bush was to you guys. Just about the same except I don’t hate them as much as THAT yet. But they’re public figures to be mocked and for their statements and vile beliefs (and now his actions already), scorned. It’s the nature of being in high elected office; they’ll get used to it.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            You? Set a trap? Yes, and I’m the Count of Monte Christo…

            You’ve just dug a hole, now you’re writhing around to try and claim you haven’t….

            Come now, with your superior intellect, you must have something… Hell, play the Jesus card… you already did, actually. FYI, snookums, I don’t care who your imaginary friend is – he can be called Dave or Jesus, it buys you no respect from me… if Mme Palin is a big enough retard to by the myth of Christ to the degree she claims to, I’d not care to see her be allowed fire arms…

          • ElbieSee says:

            Unless you’re prettier, you shouldn’t say anything. (And before you ask, no, I’ve never called the First Lady ugly.)

            You have to have the same mind set as those you’re baiting to bait them.

            And Obama hasn’t done anything to be scorned about. Yet*. He will mess up; after all, he’s human. He just won’t do it to Dubya proportions. I hope.

            *-Unless you count trying to improve our international reputation, economy, women’s rights around the world, women’s rights at home, the BCS system…

          • Tessie says:

            “When she’s ugly, yes. ”
            `
            Also, she’s fat, has yellow teeth, and is too lazy to do nice things for other people… Hmmm…

            • rhorho says:

              Cousins, perhaps, but this one doesn’t relate nauseatingly bland
              personal information, and she tries to express political opinions
              between snarks.

        • Anniee451 says:

          By the way, does that ordering people to be silent thing work on other women you know? Why would it work on this one?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            I don’t think it was the woman card she was playing, more stop making youself look a bigger arse than you already have…

          • ElbieSee says:

            I don’t see you as a woman.

            X-chromosome blessed, yes.

            But woman is more of a title that needs to be earned, and you haven’t yet.

          • ElbieSee says:

            Oh, and by the way, I’m a woman as well.

            Gender card lack of win.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              I mentioned that… just in case you missed it… You’ve not posted
              THAT much, and I had a handle on your gender (ok… that just sounds rude, but you know what I mean…)

              The woman is simply stupid, not because she’s a woman, but
              because she is very, very, very, dumb…

  31. tyroan says:

    All sorts of WIN up in here today.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      WhINe too… from all sides… it’s like listening to a jet taxiing

      • Literal says:

        And your grumbling is like the landing gear coming down.

        • Anti Fester says:

          Still hoping you trolls get sucked into the engines…..

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Like your dead buddies did? Oh, I keep forgetting… they were never alive to begin with…

            • Alex says:

              Jeez. All I ever do it see this uncle fester guy do is attack people who disagree with him. For someone who gives off such a “grumpy old man” vibe, you would think he would know that dissenting opinions are critical to the well being of a Democracy.

              Calm down, and have a civilized discussion with someone for once.

              • ElbieSee says:

                Two points (from a rather observant newbie):

                1. AntiFester is a troll, do dah, do dah…

                2. UncleFester really is like an old, rather crotchety uncle. You just have to keep your sense of humor, learn to ‘agree to disagree’, and express yourself well, and you’ll be on his good side. Problem is, he’s easily poked by certain types…

                (Does that cover everything? If I missed the target, did I hit the tree?)

                • Anti Fester says:

                  Uncle Fester is the UberTroll here, but it’s okay with you because he picks on Republicans only. I’ve become the Anti Fester only to respond to this jackasses comments and one sided attacks. And unlike most who post on here, I am what I say I am.

                  • froofrou says:

                    As I’ve said before, ‘anti-’ implies opposite yet equal. You may be the opposite of Uncle Fester, but you’re nowhere near his equal in intelligence, ability to form an argument, or straight up skill in taking the knees out of those less prepared for a verbal altercation.
                    -
                    You’re Anti-something, but it ain’t Fester.

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    Hammer. Nail. Head. It rather kills the humorous intent when only one side gets funnies made about them and then *also* gets slammed in comments just for not *being* leftist or Obama sycophants, or for being conservative. I would laugh just as much at some of these outgoing Bush-bashing posts if there were balance, or if when pointing it out one didn’t get called an idiot for not being on the left. That just really f&^$s up the laughs – unless someone claims they’re laughing really hard AT you, which is just downright mean and not funny. Equal-opportunity humorists, like South Park and those who *try* to be more EO humorists, like SNL, are funny because they’re not discriminatory that way. When I first came here, and was just reading all the posts and not the comments, although it was skewed, it was still funny because there was at least some attempt to poke fun at everyone.

                    It’s a shame, really.

              • Scum says:

                I think he does know that. The problem here it seems, is that you don’t know that. Are you trying to tell him what he is and isn’t allowed to say?
                -
                Is anyone preventing you from vehemently disagreeing with him?
                -
                You’re apparently free to express your opinion as to your dislike of his opinions and the ways in which he presents them. So, what was your problem again?

                • Anti Fester says:

                  Anyone who disagrees with him- like me- is immediately called a troll and attacked on any personal angle imaginable.

                  • froofrou says:

                    Horse sh!t. He and I disagree all the time.

                    • rhorho says:

                      True that. It takes more than disagreement to make
                      a troll. It’s all in the way an opinion is presented. It
                      amazes me that, earlier, AF made some good
                      comments, but now seems to be happier leaving
                      trollish opinions around. The reverse is usually true,
                      so it’s puzzling, isn’t it?

                  • Aedriel says:

                    How is intentionally (and incorrectly) naming yourself his opposite NOT being a troll? Please explain…

                  • ElbieSee says:

                    I’ve disagreed with him – over a macro that I made. You were there.

                    He and I are cool.

                    I lurked before I jumped in here – he’s been here longer than you. Which makes you the sub-bridge dwelling creature of diminutive height and dubious intellect.

                  • Scum says:

                    You’re like the brothers at the SF zoo who got attacked by a tiger last year. The tiger killed one of them and one of their friends, all because they were throwing sh1t at the tiger. They thought they were safe, but the tiger lept up the embankment and attacked them. Now the survivor has received a $75k medical bill for treatment which the city covered.
                    -
                    Don’t pretend that you’re innocent and were taken by surprise or were unfairly provoked or attacked. In spite of what you might think, most of the people up here aren’t that stupid.
                    -
                    Do I agree with everything UF says or does, hell no. Do I whine about it, hell no. He came at me once, I corrected him on the misunderstanding. Done.

                    • ElbieSee says:

                      Nice analogy, with the tigers.

                      And you said it better than I did. :-/ It’s not rocket science, getting along with Uncle F, but you have to put effort into it. :-)

                      • Scum says:

                        Thanks.
                        I’m not worried about getting along with him. Nor am I overly interested in changing his mind on anything. Maybe that’s where anti- and I are different. I don’t give a rat’s ass if UF likes me or not.
                        -
                        I like that UF has an awful lot of knowledge which he shares even if he does wrap it up in vitriol at times. He seems to know more about the American political system than most Americans do. He does spread the sh!t evenly, but at times I think he’s a prick just because he can be, without having a good reason for it.
                        -
                        Anti- however gives him plenty of good reason. Anti- really needs to step back, realize he’s outmatched, and if he’s still interested, try a different approach, because it’s quite clear that his current tactics aren’t working.

                        • ElbieSee says:

                          I know people like Uncle IRL. Maybe not as extreme (the internet lends itself as a filter), but close.

                          Anti- is just one of those tools who’s all “so’s your face!” I know people like him IRL, too, and wish I didn’t.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          If AF was that ‘in your face’ in some circles,
                          he’d be wearing his nasal bones between the
                          frontal lobes…

                  • rhorho says:

                    AF, you know it’s wrong to use the lives of fallen troops
                    to try to score some sort of point online. We all know
                    that. If you admit it was the wrong tactic, then post with
                    your brain, you won’t feel so persecuted and attacked.

                    Otherwise, you’re just a troll. We see them every day
                    here, to the point where one blends into another. I’ve
                    seen you make points in a successful way here, so I
                    know you’re capable. If you act like a troll, you’ll be
                    treated like one. Just a suggestion here, but if you
                    don’t want to admit you were wrong to invoke the
                    fallen, simply retire this name of yours, get another
                    one, then make posts that are topical, funny, or a
                    combination, you’ll see the difference in treatment
                    you receive.

                    If you continue on your present path, your whining
                    will eventually be ignored, and you will be written off
                    as a nothing.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    That’s Graphjam… PK is a little more civilised. Not
                    a lot, but enough to make the out of hand, Stalinist
                    denunciation of ‘troll’ out of the box for a cogent
                    critique the presented, rather than ‘First!’, ‘Libtards’,
                    ‘Repulizombie’, ‘Obamessiah’ etc. reasonably rare…

              • Aedriel says:

                Dissenting opinions are one thing. Mindless sh*t-flinging is another. Politics aren’t sports, which is what most Americans seem to treat them as…

                From what I’ve seen, Fester argues with people who fling sh*t… they act like twats so he treats them like twats, fair enough.

                I haven’t made a complete ass out of myself yet so I think I’m still in the OK zone. We’ll see.

                • Anti Fester says:

                  Don’t sell yourself short- you’ve made a spectacular ass of yourself here! Fester IS the one who starts the sh*t flinging, but only if you are not kissing Obama’s rear end.

                  • Aedriel says:

                    There are exceptions, yes, where I don’t think some people he’s attacked have really warranted it. So I’ll renege the “only” …wait, I didn’t say only.

                    Yes, he’s a dick. But learn to take it with a grain of salt… he’s just a disgruntled old (presumably old, anyway) fart from the UK. Sheesh.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  Politics aren’t sports, which is what most Americans seem to treat them as…

                  I’m afraid it is just a game. The game is to persuade enough people to give you more and more power. Unfortunately, most people, and not just Americans, have some form of near ‘religious’ attachment to their ‘political’ beliefs, which simply makes it all the more dangerous, and gets good people very dead, very quickly.

                  One of my favourite definitions of insanity is ‘doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.’
                  Mankind, for the most part is insane. They cling to economic models that model nothing, political ideals that only result in more and more chaos or tend toward despotism of the first water, while making it acceptable for people to starve in the streets of the richest countries in the world. The ‘people’ get smaller, weaker, and more neotenous, year on year…

              • Anniee451 says:

                FWIW I haven’t gotten any impression of age; but rather definite youth that seemed belied by the nickname. I’m often right about those things, but of course not always.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  I tend to modify depnding on the target…
                  Lets see… something to date me…
                  I remember the context of Watergate, the expulsion of the Ugandan Asians and Idi Amin’s genocides, the political backdrop of the Black September movement and the Munich Olympics massacre…

                  Your turn

            • Anti Fester says:

              “Like your dead buddies?”
              Yes, coward- like my dead friends.
              I notice that NONE of the Libs on this site have ever been in the military- or those who have, are no longer Libs…

              • ElbieSee says:

                Do you consider me a “Lib”?

                The daughter and niece of Vietnam vets?

                The granddaughter of a Korean vet?

                The friend/adopted granddaughter of a WWII vet?

                The best friend of somebody who actually made it overseas and got a medal for finding and defusing an IED?

                The descendant of a family who has fought in every American war since the Revolutionary War?

                My family members and friends fought for the right for me to come on here, express myself freely, and not be called out for it.

                Go sign up again. Sweep mine fields, like my Dad did. But don’t do as well as he did…

                • froofrou says:

                  I’d suggest clown shoes for footwear in such a case.

                  • ElbieSee says:

                    Do they come with magnets?

                    • froofrou says:

                      That’s only in the Roadrunner ™ ACME Deluxe Super-Special-Sunshine Edition that you have to special order.

                      • ElbieSee says:

                        Let’s hope Wylie E. Coyote hasn’t taken the last pair…

                        • froofrou says:

                          Even if he did, I’m not sure he’ll be using them for long.

                        • Tessie says:

                          1: Road Runner approaches sign that says “MINE FIELD”, crosses out the word FIELD with black marker, alters sign to read “GOLD MINE”
                          2: Coyote eagerly unwraps crate labeled ACME to reveal magnet the size of VW Beetle
                          3: Coyote points magnet toward mine field. Magnet forcefully attracts land mine
                          4: Coyote looks toward audience with expression of bug-eyed terror
                          5: Land mine fails to go off
                          6: Coyote relaxes in obvious relief
                          7: Magnet attracts gold nugget, which strikes land mine with tiny “ping” sound effect
                          8: Land mine blows up in spectacular explosion
                          9: Charred Coyote with one bent ear walks away, expanding and contracting like an accordion.

                        • Scum says:

                          One little physics problem with your scenario there. Know what it is?

                          Now, you might be saying that this is cartoon physics, but I don’t think they ever rewrote the small things, just the huge things….

                        • Scum says:

                          oops sorry, it’s #7
                          If your gold is attracted to a magnet, I’d find another jeweler if I were you.

                        • Tessie says:

                          “One little physics problem with your scenario there. Know what it is?”
                          `
                          I’m pretty sure that in real world physics, a magnet, even one of the size described, would not attract gold. However, in the Roadrunner/Coyote dramatic template, there’s usually the sequence of thing which should have terrible consequences but doesn’t, followed by impossible or illogical thing, followed by *that* having disastrous consequences (e.g., Coyote saws off branch, branch stays up, pause, tree falls down). So my scenario is actually more faithful the the conventions of the genre (geekette much?) *because* it’s unsicientific.

                        • Scum says:

                          ;-)
                          I know and of course the one and only problem I have with it all is that.
                          I have no problem with:
                          - the magnet being large enough to attract the landmine
                          - the fact that he survives the blast, albeit blackened like a nice piece of cajun fish
                          - or him walking away, bouncing like an accordion.

                          And I’m still waiting for Acme to deliver my portable hole.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  ElbieSee,

                  Don’t know if you ever saw Blackadder Goes Forth, but there was a great land mine ‘joke’ (like a lot of Britcom, the humour was pretty black)
                  Baldrick asks what the procedure is if one stands on a land mine.
                  Blackadder: “I believe the correct form is to jump 20 feet in the air, and then spread yourself in a 200 foot circle’ (from memory, but it’s the gist)
                  I thought it put a great perspective on warfare, that series. Had humour without disrespect for the people…
                  My late father, who served in the mess that was Yugoslavia in the immediate post-WW2/pre-Tito gap, found a lot of the series pretty biting, but funny too. Shame my Grandfather, the one who was artillery in Flanders (Ypres, The Somme… went a believer, came back a quiet atheist. I can see his spurs and medals from where I sit typing), didn’t live to see it. My mother maintained he’d have found it funny.

              • Scum says:

                ‘scuse me??
                NONE of us have served in the military? Would you care to explain how you came across that interesting bit of information?

                • rhorho says:

                  My thoughts, exactly. Just because some of us don’t jump
                  into the penis comparing contest, he thinks he knows who’s
                  military and who isn’t. He would be mighty surprised to find
                  out, wouldn’t he?

                  • Scum says:

                    Yeah, while whipping it out can be fun, it proves very little. err, I mean not a lot, um, it’s no big deal??? I can’t win in this fight with myself here can I?

                    Ok, going away now…

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  Some people think they have to ‘strip their sleeves, and show their scars’, when really no bugger who wasn’t there at the time is *really* interested…

              • Anniee451 says:

                Gah – when I said “Hammer, Nail, Head” I was talking to you. This format sucks.

              • Musicmom870 says:

                You fail.

            • Tessie says:

              His buddies were a flock of geese?

  32. Russ says:

    You people are idiots:

    LIMBAUGH:David Hinckley of–of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has–he’s got–it’s very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House. (A picture is shown of Millie the dog)

    LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid.

    (Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)

    LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…

  33. sjv says:

    guess its OK for everyone to trash the republicans or conservatives, but heaven forbid if we say anything about the NObamas…

    • Scum says:

      Go ahead! Trash Obama. Got anything legitimate on him to trash? Please, no one is stopping you. If it’s BS, expect to get trashed yourself.
      -
      If you opened your eyes, you’d see that Democrats are not unconditionally loyal. When the President screws up, do you know from where you’re going to hear first? Members of his own party.

      • ElbieSee says:

        Oh My Harry, all of this!

        I know Obama isn’t perfect and will eventually be human and dub something up, and when he does, I’ll sigh and mutter something about politicians and move on.

        Thing about Obama is, I don’t think being a screw-up will be his legacy. *ahem*

      • sjv says:

        I figure that I and many like me will continue to trash NObama since the media certainly wont. As to the Dem or Repub saying anything to him… well, they haven’t yet, and both are guilty as anyone in their appeasement of anything that NObama has already said and done.

        My eyes are and have been opened since NObama came on the scene… obviously yours are not. If you want his already implemented policies… go live in the EU since they are already figuring out that those policies are not working there either. Either way… I hope and pray that our country stays a democracy instead of a government controlled cesspool.

        • Scum says:

          Oh get the hell over yourself and your self-pitying with this media bias BS. Can’t you neocons ever stop with the whining?! Try doing something. Oh wait, that’s what got us in this mess to begin with. Never mind, continue whining please. It’s far less dangerous that you actually making decisions.
          -
          Your continued use of NObama tells all of us up here that you’re not interested in facts. You’ve already made up your mind, based on nothing, nothing that you’ve presented anyway.
          -
          Oh, and the cesspool is what Bush and his ilk have turned the US into. I’m sure you’ve already started blaming Obama for that, but let’s give him more than a week to try to clear up some of the shi1t through which we are currently wading.

          • froofrou says:

            Look, I think everyone’s missing the point about the whining here. When a Republican is in office, he’s evil and the Libs are whining about the damage he’s doing to America. When a Dem is in office, he’s evil and the Cons are complaining about the damage he’s doing to America. Everybody who loses has teh butthurt, and everyone gets over it. Everybody who wins gloats about it and says how their guy is going to fix it all, no matter what it is.
            -
            Every administration has faced problems, and all of them have been different. Reagan had to clean up Carter’s mess, Bush had to ‘continue what Reagan started’, Clinton had to clean up Reagan and Bush’s mess, Bush had to clean up Clinton’s mess (and get new cigars), and now Obama’s cleaning up Bush’s mess. The destruction of America is different to different people, and the attention span of Americans is such that we don’t remember past the last 4-8 years.
            -
            The economy is the big thing now. In 4 years it may be another war. In another four years we may have widespread hunger domestically. In another 4 it may be the collapse of the education system to the point that we have to scrap it and get a new one. IT ALL CHANGES, and there’s not a damn thing any of us can do about it. We can just vote our hearts, and pick the guy we feel will screw it up the least at the time.
            -
            If Obama loses in four years, I guarantee that the whiny libs will be out in force. Until that happens, everyone needs to calm the f^ck down and start working together to try and fix this mess that others have gotten us into.

            • rhorho says:

              Okay, that was entirely too full of WIN!!

              Who are you and what have you done to froo? ;-)

            • Scum says:

              I emphatically disagree, but am currently not in the mood, nor of sufficient brain power to articulate my arguments. Suffice it to say that I believe it’s akin to one of my arguments used in another thread, in another caption, where I believe there is an attempt to ‘lower’ the processes on the left in order to make it appear to be separate-but-equal to the processes on the right. I do not believe there is equality.

              • rhorho says:

                Thinking I can predict your points of disagreement, might I
                interject? This post of froo’s represents no small amount of
                progress in her wisdom about matters political. It is far too
                easy in this format to major in minors.

                Yes, you and I totally disagree with froo that Reagan had to
                clean up Carter’s mess, and certainly that Bush had to clean
                up Clinton’s mess. In the past, froo has acknowledged the
                approximate four-year lag in policy results, so that handles
                Carter. We can all look up the economic before-and-after on
                GWB. Putting those things to the side for now, and putting
                extra weight on her last sentence, I would call this a huge
                win.

                • rhorho says:

                  …and yes, we know that both sides aren’t equal, and the
                  tactics of one tear down the efforts of the other more often
                  than either of us want to describe.

                  • Scum says:

                    Wow, were you looking over my shoulder while I was typing? I thought I heard something outside the window…

                    • rhorho says:

                      Sorry, there, but it was cold in Texas. I’m only out-
                      side your window for the climate, honest! Please
                      don’t turn me in…again.

                      • Scum says:

                        We’re in the mid 60′s right now!
                        Cold for here, but far from what I consider cold and I’m still in shorts.

                        Come on in, we’ll take a walk over to the beach.

                        • rhorho says:

                          YAY!! Grabs flip-flops and wrist-rocket.

                        • Scum says:

                          two days to respond? You’re not very exited about hitting the beach…
                          -
                          Umm, I looked up wrist-rocket, ’cause I’m not familiar with that and umm, I came up with pages and pages of these. [link]. Is that really what you were talking about? Why would you bring one of those to the beach?

                        • rhorho says:

                          Uh…that looks awfully pretty, but it doesn’t
                          look like the kind of weapon I’m use for
                          stealing drinks on the beach. You have your
                          ways and I have mine, let’s say. No matter,
                          as long as we get free drinks!
                          :D

                          Sorry about not *finding* this again until
                          recently. It’s getting crowded in here, yes?

                        • Scum says:

                          WTF?
                          -
                          Sorry, but I honestly have no friggin clue what you’re talking about.
                          I really don’t know what a wrist-rocket is, and that’s what came up in a google search.
                          My beach doesn’t have bars. It has sand, water, sun, surf fishes [link]
                          -
                          If you want a bar at the beach I guess you’ll have to go over to Waikiki.
                          You take a weapon to the beach to steal drinks? Is this like a Texas tradition or something?

                        • Robert says:

                          That was a pocket rocket. A wrist rocket is a slingshot.

                        • Scum says:

                          @Robert
                          This is the path/filename in the link. Please note the name of the file.
                          risquebusiness. co. uk/shop/images/wrist-rocket.jpg
                          -
                          I searched for the correct term and as I said, a page full of that device came up on the screen.
                          -
                          Wrist rocket as a slingshot does sound familiar though so thanks for that.
                          -
                          @rho
                          I’d still like to know why you feel the need to be armed and
                          to steal drinks from people on the beach. I think you’re going to be on your own for that activity. ;-)

                        • rhorho says:

                          Chicken!! *bwaaak!*

                          *shrugs* When in Rome…

                          Leaves weapon [LINK] at the house, takes
                          water bottle and camera instead.

                        • Robert says:

                          Huh…must be a regional difference. I’ve never heard that called a wrist-rocket on this side of the Atlantic. Course, it could also be a marketing term because it does have a wrist strap. And, glad to help.

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Scum: I noticed your link after I posted.
                          Wow! What great fishies!

                          *grabs snorkeling gear*
                          ;-)

                        • Scum says:

                          Chicken!! *bwaaak!*
                          I’m just really curious what kind of beaches y’all have in Texas where you feel the need to go armed. Makes me twice as happy to be here.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Serious much? ;-)

                • Scum says:

                  Well, again, I’m not going to go into gross detail simply because my brain can’t handle it right now. I wasn’t so much thinking about the statements of one party cleaning up the messes of the previous party, although I think you both have valid points.
                  -
                  I think what I was referring to more was the implication, if not directly stated, that each administrations ‘screw-ups’ were roughly equivalent to that of the previous (or even post) administration from the other party. I do not believe that in my lifetime they are even close to equal. I won’t discuss anything before Kennedy, but since him, the Republican party, while having done good as well as bad, has caused far more harm, broken far more laws (that we know about), and damaged the way of life, liberty and pursuit of property far more than the Democrats.
                  -
                  Having said that, I do not blame conservatism per se. In fact, as I’ve stated before, if the Republicans had not been taken over by the religious reich, if they were still true conservatives, reflecting the smaller government and more personal freedoms and responsibilities that they once were, I would most likely be a Republican today. I blame the religious reich for creating the neocons, and I blame the neocons for most of the hate and dissension that currently exists between different ideologies in this country today.
                  -
                  To the point. I think that the ‘right’ side feels like they’re losing on many levels, and I think that they are trying to unfairly level the playing field by saying that both sides have done equal good and bad, so let’s just call it a draw and start over. Froo brought up in a different thread how Obama used the phrase “I won” and she found that offensive. What I found offensive is how bush used that concept to rape this country. Obama was being up front and honest saying we’ll talk about it, but he will make the final decision. Bush used the concept to say, we’re not going to talk about it.

                  • Scum says:

                    “I won” details in [link]

                  • rhorho says:

                    I believe the word was “mandate.”

                    • Scum says:

                      Not in this context it wasn’t, but the concept is roughly the same.

                      • rhorho says:

                        Yes it was: My post above (at 10:18) was
                        responding to the last sentence of your post
                        above it.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Aah, at sunglasses past ten – my favourite time of the day. Don’t you just love automatic smileys? :p

                        • rhorho says:

                          Ack! My post above was at 10:18, so it
                          almost tied with yours. The confusion resulted
                          from its placement after yours. Mr. Sunglass,
                          the result of 8 + ), compounded my
                          frustration.

                          *goes to get more coffee*

                        • Scum says:

                          @rhorho

                          OH, do you mean to say that Bush used the word Mandate?
                          Yes, he did. You are correct sir.

                          Sorry, since the context was Obama’s words, your post read like you were saying that Obama said ‘mandate’ and not ‘I won’

                        • rhorho says:

                          YAY!! I was thinking my comment would be
                          read immediately after your last sentence:

                          “Bush used the concept to say, we’re not
                          going to talk about it.”

                          “I believe the word was ‘mandate.’ “

            • Lainie says:

              Well said! And LOL @ the cigars comment…

            • pcflamingo says:

              Yah! What froo said. Wait? I’m agreeing with a conservative? OMG the world has turned inside out!

            • So Hawt it hurts says:

              Your comments make me so wet. Such hot stuff for a simple picture.

          • Alex says:

            Someone who cannot see that the media is not heavily biased towards the left is someone who shouldnt be listened to on politics.

        • Danbala says:

          go live in the EU since they are already figuring out that those policies are not working there either
          Okay, this comment makes me interested, and I have two questions:
          Do you mean that anyone who wants something or is unhappy about something should move to some place that is exactly as they like it?
          Would you care to elaborate on which policies the EU are figuring out are not working?

          • Anniee451 says:

            #1 It depends. I follow several socialist (openly) sites, and the fact is that the redistributive policies they advocate are absolutely unconstitutional. Since it is the president’s (and legislature’s and judiciary’s) mandate to uphold and defend the constitution, and since we too have a duty to defend and uphold the constitution and exercise our rights, and since no one has the right to force us to submit to unconstitutional living conditions, then the onus would be upon them, if they truly wish to live in such a system, to go where there is one – not to try and force it on the rest of us living here. Alternatively, they can set up all the voluntary societies that they like here, so long as they don’t force anyone to live in it. If you are talking about things that are not unconstitutional, then go ahead and try to implement it.

            #2 I can mention one. The Queen of Denmark just issued the following statements: “”We are being challenged by Islam these years. Globally as well as locally. … We must take this challenge seriously. We have simply left it flapping around for far too long, because we are tolerant and rather lazy.”

            The Queen continued, “there is also something frightening about such a totality which is also a part of Islam. A certain response must be shown and sometimes one must run the risk of being labeled in a less flattering way. Because there are certain things with which one should not be tolerant.”

            “We could have handled this challenge a bit better, if we had realized what we were up against.”

            “Therefore it is wise to make demands on the language. We should not be content with living next to each other. We should rather live together.”

            It was years ago when I saw a report on France discovering that their economic redistributive policies were becoming disastrous. Enormous taxation, people on welfare angry that they didn’t get their opera tickets, and Atlas shrugging, unemployment, women forced to work and leave their young children in gov’t day care because of the extreme taxation required to support such policies. Such is the kind of crimp being felt in many places. Not all, but many. Those are just a couple of examples.

            • Scum says:

              See, now this post has substance.
              It doesn’t matter whether or not I agree.
              It shows you have intelligence and can post something that isn’t just blind hate and rage.
              -
              In your other posts, you come off as frothing at the mouth. Here, you come off as someone who’s put thought into what they’re saying and aren’t just parroting some other right-wingers thoughts.

              • Anniee451 says:

                I don’t parrot things. Though I may quote.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  No, you parrot… you seem have no depth of understanding, and consider ‘Michelle looks like a monkey’ the height of political satire… You’re a retard or a sock for some other retard… makes no odds to me…

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    My grandfather looked like a chimp – in fact every time I see a chimp of an ape I say it looks like him. Some people just do. It’s you who made it racist, not me.

                    I think you may end up alone in your assessment about depth there; guess it helps not to just throw the feces back at you? Uncle Fester was an awesome character; it has pained me to see the name attached to your posts.

                    Also, I’m not a humor writer. Other people do it much better than me, and I prefer to let them do it and appreciate the results. When they’re funny. Only very occasionally do I write humor pieces.

                    Scum, you and I were actually saying several almost identical things’ it was quite unexpected that you were going to lash out at me. It doesn’t matter; it was just a surprise.

                    • Scum says:

                      I don’t know where we were saying similar things, but in this thread, when I ‘lashed out’ at you as you put it, the only type of posting that I’d seen of yours was along the lines of:

                      “Make me unsee it! It’s Zaius with massive ‘roids.”
                      “Even Obama addresses the fricking legislators and can’t keep his little lizard brain ”
                      “That’s because she’s ugly (but so is her mate.) ”
                      “You lying sack of crap. However, proof positive – the left are nothing but race-baiting bigots who equate black people with monkeys and assume other people do too.”

                      Pick on Obama, hell, destroy him if you feel you must or can, for what he does or doesn’t do. Bush earned all of the nasty nicknames he got. He worked hard for them, so don’t deny him the right. So far, people like you are throwing out lots of negatives toward the Obamas without any cause or reason. You think it’s somehow ‘fair’ that because Bush is ‘disliked’ (putting it very mildly) worldwide, that the world should hold the same opinion of someone you morons think is your enemy/anti-christ/muslim/terrorist/[insert other unfounded slur here]. When you have something substantial to say, good or bad, about the job the President doing, we’ll be here.

                      I said this to you here before, and I’ll say it again. You’re the person making racist remarks. It’s all typical right-wing tactics and we’ve all seen it a thousand times before. You make up crap and then try to blame it on others. It might work in your local neighborhood bar/church, but it’s not going to fly up here.

                      I don’t know where you think we made similar points, but it’s possible that we don’t disagree on everything. Some of the posts you put up last night actually showed the workings of a rational mind instead of the seething, blind hatred. If you stayed in that personality, people might actually hear what you have to say.

            • Danbala says:

              (Risk of double post here, sorry if that’s the case)
              .
              Thank you for your response. While I am certain that you are not interested in the “approval” of strangers on the Internet, I still wish to say that I have found reading your posts of the last hours quite enjoyable. Take it as you please.
              .
              #1: Yes, I think I see what you mean*: people wishing to go against the laws and foundation of a country shouldn’t be let loose. (Providing one is certain that those laws and foundations are absolutely sound, of course.) I read the original post as far less nuanced than that, though, possibly unfairly, having come across the “if you don’t like it, go somewhere else”-attitude too often. (I don’t see it as very healthy to the development of a society.) Can you explain how Obama’s policies are unconstitutional?
              .
              #2: Ah yes. Islam and western civilisations. An interesting conundrum. “We” (several European countries, to my knowledge) do have huge problems with integration and racism, without a doubt. (Purely for information that statement by queen Margrethe is from at least 2003, and Denmark has had some fun run-ins with islam since.) What Obama policies are related to this? (An honest plea for information, not trying to make pionts now either.)
              .
              I know you have said you have problems posting links, and yes, this site is decidedly link-unfriendly. Have you tried leaving out the h-t-t-p bit? That some times works for e. Otherwise, a cumbersome but workable solution is to use the “URI”-field for links, asking people to click your name for the info. Not practical, but at least it works.
              .
              *) Correct me if I am wrong

              • Anniee451 says:

                Well I wrote a small book in reply, but it’s not showing up; having computer problems. If you don’t see it, let me know. I can’t resubmit because it says I posted it already.

              • Anniee451 says:

                I’ll try it in two pieces. Gmail appears to be totally broken. If anyone has a gmail account, please tell me if you can log in.

                “Can you explain how Obama’s policies are unconstitutional?”

                I didn’t say they were; I don’t know what they are yet. They’ve changed a lot over the last 13 years and over the last few months/weeks, and now we’ll be finding out. I was just explaining what my own answer would be to that question – which is, it depends. If they are unconstitutional, in our case, the persons should not expect that we will be turning our system of government inside out to accommodate them. In the particular cases of the socialist sites, they have the options of going somewhere where there is such a system, or form their own. The beauty of our constitutional rights is that we CAN do such a thing, but we must not force others to. If such people find themselves in positions of power, I would fight them for my right not to be forced to live except according to the constitution and our governing documents.

                There IS a very grave concern with Obama and what he may believe and try to implement, laid out in a radio interview in 2001 in Chicago. He said that the judiciary was hampered by checks and balances from implementing redistributive policies. He then said it was necessary, to implement redistributive (yes, socialist) policies, to gain massive ground support and go after it from the executive and legislative branches. Then he of course continued angling for legislative and finally executive power as well as that ground support. He also stated in Dreams From My Father (and there is audio of it being read in his own voice) that he chose his friends carefully…such as Marxist professors. I would have to say that includes people like Wright and others – Wright, for example was featured prominently on his website until the videos surfaced on the internet; then it disappeared without explanation – it was not very plausible that someone who chose his friends so carefully and had defended him previously, had not been listening to that stuff we heard regularly for decades. Occam’s Razor says the explanation was that it looked bad. Wright resurfaced almost immediately after the election. I have seen media outlets trying to quote the radio interview and claim it didn’t say what it did. So of course I read the entire transcript. In fact, the youtube audio was a very fair representation that was edited to include just the relevant and ominous views. Naturally it surfaced in the campaign that his plan was to “spread the wealth” and it looks for all intents and purposes like he was surprised by the question and revealed more than he intended.

                So combining all these things and more, it certainly looks from this end like there are many unconstitutional things coming, such as socialistic economic policies – we already have moved more and more into redistribution as it is; it should be readily apparent why people will resist going even more quickly further into such policies. For at least 120 years leadership acknowledged that one’s property belongs to the person that made it/produced it/earned it, as their constitutional right. I would certainly resist leadership trying to take more of people’s property – even if it weren’t a disastrous economic move, which it is.

                There are plenty of socialist systems in the world where people can do this; the US was not set up to be one of them, and it goes against our basic rights. Likewise, as I said, people can form their own societies within this one, voluntarily.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  Now I can’t get the rest to appear.

                  • rhorho says:

                    Brevity is the soul of wit.

                    • Scum says:

                      Well I’m screwed then.

                    • Uncle Fester says:

                      ever noticed the recurring theme of ‘mysterious
                      vanishings of sources’? It out Colberts Colbert in the
                      implied ‘vast conspiracy’ ideas that one sees in the
                      REAL right wing, religio-conservative nut jobs…

                      This is just breath taking…

                      • rhorho says:

                        This one seems to have swapped quantity for
                        quality. Past that, it’s all the same Kool-Aid.

                        By now, piling rehashed drivel and trying to
                        make weak connections reeks of desperation,
                        nothing more. Her sources, one of which was
                        “a radio interview in 2001 in Chicago,” are
                        textbook examples of the validity she has been
                        willing to accept for herself, and now expects
                        the rest of us to trust.

                        I’ll bet you a two-pound coin she shops at
                        Sam’s Club, a store offering items in bulk.

            • slan agat says:

              I follow several socialist (openly) sites, and the fact is that the redistributive policies they advocate are absolutely unconstitutional.

              Aha. Do you see where you went wrong there?

              You’re taking what you read off World Socialist Web and attributing it to all Democrats. That’s like me taking stuff from the John Birch Society and AKIP and attributing it to all Republicans.

              You might try having a look at the positions of real people in the mainstream of the Democratic party. You might even try looking at Obama’s own policy statements instead of blindly assuming he’s in lockstep with the red-diaper babies.

        • Tessie says:

          “go live in the EU since they are already figuring out that those policies are not working there either. ”
          `
          Really? Health care, education, child care leave for both parents, 4 weeks annual vacation… must be hell on earth. Oh, by the way, last I heard, the Euro was whipping the dollar’s azz.

        • slan agat says:

          Whine, whine, whine, and not one fact. Got anything legitimate to trash Obama on yet? Anything specific? Anything true?

    • George says:

      We’re talking about their CHILDREN here, you retard.

      Go play emo criticism victim somewhere else.

    • ChiChi says:

      It says a lot about you that you think it’s okay to attack children just because you don’t like their parents’ politics.

      • Anniee451 says:

        I actually followed this back to see what you were replying to – which apparently you didn’t bother to even read.

        NO ONE ATTACKED CHELSEA CLINTON, #1. Including Limbaugh. In fact, the post you were replying to provided the actual quotes from the transcript, and explained that IN FACT HE WAS QUOTING THAT SHE WAS A CUTE KID #2. The post you were replying to DEBUNKED the lie that Limbaugh ever called Chelsea Clinton a dog (I’ve also pasted the transcript) and the media did a hatchet job, Mother Jones lied about it and added the Socks bit (or perhaps it got added in the Telephone game prior to her) and proved that the basis for this entire LOL was completely false, and in fact a good example of a biased media lying about something and the willing dupes picking it up, adding to it, and screaming about it ever since (1992 – 16 years this lie has been told).

        This has been done with Limbaugh time after time, year after year after year, and it becomes obvious now that THAT is the actual basis for all the Limbaugh hate – I always get stunned when people claim he’s a racist or a this or a that, knowing he never said this, that or the other, and seeing how people pick up these false stories and run with them for DECADES, then decide without ever listening to him or researching the facts, that he’s some hideous monster.

        When the lie was debunked here, you AGAIN picked it up and kept running and screaming with it. Now would anyone care to dispute media bias and people not bothering to find out things for themselves by actually, oh, I don’t know, READING the original sources, maybe listening to the people you’re complaining about instead of just jumping on the bandwagon?

        THIS was how Rush Limbaugh came to be known by the left as this despicable creature. Even in the internet age when it would take you *seconds* to find out that he did not coin the phrase “Barack the Magic Negro”, that he did not agree with it, and that it was Paul Shanklin making fun of a liberal black journalist who wrote an article called “Barack the Magic Negro”. At least with that one, SOME people did a search and found out he was being hatcheted. With the lie about him calling Chelsea a dog it was ’92, we didn’t have easy methods of finding out this stuff – you would either listen to him and find out the truth when he explained it, or you would believe the media and run with the lie, deciding that he was a horrible monster.

        It is not excusable now, when we have the information available.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Actually, no, the transcript you put up appeared to be played for cheap laughs, like the techs couldn’t tell the difference between the kid and the dog.

          • It’s too bad it doesn’t seem to be on YouTube; I think it would be interesting to view it with all the vocal inflections, expressions, body language, etc., before I made a call on accident vs. cheap joke at the expense of a kid.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              On Limbaugh’s record, esp since he was tweaking the oxy at the time, which do you think is the more likely?

            • Anniee451 says:

              You can certainly make a determination that the story as it is told now is a complete and utter falsehood from beginning to end. It makes no claim of an “implication” or an on-purpose ‘accident’ – it tells a complete and utter fabrication that is far more vicious than that. Also, as has already been demonstrated, the story doesn’t work with the facts from the transcript; it wouldn’t have made any sense as a “cheap joke” that way, using Millie, before Socks, before occupation of the White House, and with the words as stated, in an “In/Out” segment. No matter how you slice it, it wouldn’t make sense.

              Many people are just determined to believe these things, though, no matter how preposterous.

              When he does say something out of line (such as when he really WAS strung out on the drugs, unlike ’92) such as his crappy remark about Crystal Mangum before we knew she was a liar, he has apologized and said he was wrong. In this case no one could have expected the bastardization of the non-story that was made into a story, including him. It all came way out of left field and long after the fact, and made no sense.

    • Lainie says:

      Oh sjv…”NObamas”, so clever, did you make that one up yourself? har har har. So clever. [insert sarcasm here]

  34. John says:

    Sad she has no flattering angles.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Michelle is ugly is politics of the right… I see…

      This is pure gold…

      • rhorho says:

        Maybe Barbara and Laura Bush can share some of their beauty secrets with Michelle. If not, maybe Michael Jackson can recommend a surgeon in Cairo.

      • Tessie says:

        “Michelle is ugly is politics of the right… I see…”
        `
        Perhaps you missed the memo: No right wing, red state women — no matter what they actually look like — are ever ugly. Only left wing, blue state, non-Stepford women with three-digit IQs are ever ugly. Ugly, hairy legged, boner killing feminazis, knowwhutImean?

  35. Anniee451 says:

    Rush did not actually call Chelsea the White House Dog, and what happened was an unfortunate misunderstanding, by the way. I saw it at the time.

    If you google Rush Chelsea Dog and click on the RateItAll link, then do control F and type in “did not” you’ll find a post with the transcript and explanation of events. He actually called her a “cute kid.” So before we get this story completely wrong and take it as a given that he did that, let’s clear the record on what actually happened. He didn’t do it.

    I would link that and other accounts, but you can’t link here.

  36. ChiChi says:

    She’d do it, too. <3 Michelle.

    • Anniee451 says:

      You do understand that Rush Limbaugh never said any such thing, right?

      I would like to ask **Literal** a question. The transcript of the incident took about one minute to find. I did remember seeing it on tv at the time, so I knew it wasn’t true. You instead found a site that repeated the lie and changed it into something not even resembling what happened. Did you actually just not *find* the truth or even *look* for a transcript or a possible debunking? Why would you instead just find a site that didn’t have any sourcing at all, and cite it as a source?

      And if, based on your search, it was actually hard to find in the midst of all the sources claiming he DID say it, WHAT does that tell you about the sources you listen to and believe? This lie has been told for 16 years now. You can readily find sources that are still beating the drum on a lie that’s been told for THAT long, but they couldn’t cite any real sources themselves – they in fact became the sources – and they have instead *become* the sources of said lie.

      What does that tell you about deliberately seeking out *another side to the dispute, another source that perhaps doesn’t share your worldviews and politics*? Does it maybe suggest to you that you should in fact LISTEN to other sides of these issues and decide for yourself, with better sourcing? I inform myself by reading all sorts of sides to any issue, including far left, Libertarian, conservative – with economic issues I’ll read the Keynesians, the socialists and the Austrians. I don’t see how people can consider themselves informed if they only read and believe sources that agree with them – especially when they find out how stunningly false that side turns out to be.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        and the transcript you’ve posted simply backs the view it was done for a cheap laugh at the expense of a 13 year old girl…

        Question, are you really this disingenuous, or is it some sort of pose?

      • Literal says:

        Anniee, for the love of gawd shut the f**k up and learn to read.
        I was defending him, you brainless twit.
        Someone accused him of attacking her sexuality, and I said he merely called her a dog, which he DID! It may have been a mistake, the intern put up the wrong photo, mumbo jumbo *insert your bullspit here* but it happened.
        Jeebus. It ain’t just a river in Egypt anymore, folks.

        • Anniee451 says:

          I know what you said. And no, he did not do any such thing. There was no picture of Chelsea up when he said there was a dog on its way out of the White House. There was a picture of Millie up when he said there was a “cute kid” on her way in. Which means, if anything, he called Millie a KID, not Chelsea a dog. Duh.

          Nice to see you defend your use of a falsified story to prove your point, though – whether you think he called the dog a cute kid on purpose or not, the story you posted was a complete lie.

          • Literal says:

            Dear Rush’s mom,
            We know how much you lurvs your little snookums Rushie, but STFU, quite your whiny sniveling and go clean up your kid.
            Thank you.
            God

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Actually, she’s using the same script you posted… and it’s entirely possible it was a mistake. Based on his track record, it makes it unlikely to be one…

            But this Colbert stuff you’re doing is great…

          • Literal says:

            Copyright 1992 Multimedia Entertainment, Inc.

            RUSH LIMBAUGH

            SHOW: RUSH LIMBAUGH (9:00 PM ET)

            November 6, 1992, Friday 11:15 AM
            -
            -

            LIMBAUGH: Thank you. This show’s era of dominant influence is just beginning. We are now the sole voice of sanity, the sole voice of reason. We are the sole voice of opposition on all television. This is the only place you can tune to to get the truth of the opposition of the one-party dictatorial government that now will soon run America. Oh, I mean, we are only beginning to enjoy dominance and prosperity. Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them–one of them in particular is.
            -
            David Hinckley of–of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has–he’s got–it’s very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House.
            -
            (A picture is shown of Millie the dog)
            -
            LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid.
            -
            (Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)
            -
            LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…
            -
            He didnt claim it was a technical error. He claimed it was a staff error. The person responsible was fired. And he apologized profusely on the air, both on his tv and radio show.
            -
            Why would anyone get fired, or why would Rush apologize, if the story was a complete lie?
            -
            Bedone, Anniee.

            • Anniee451 says:

              Literal; I really don’t know what you’re talking about – I’m talking about the link to the Mother Jones account (which is identical to all the other weeping wailing accounts) that 100% falsely claims – last time here ffs – that Rush held up a picture of the CAT (before they even moved in to the WH) and said “You know the WH has a cat.” Then said, “Did you know the WH also has a dog?” and held up a picture of Chelsea.

              None of that is true. At all. And it is the story that you linked to at Mother Jones and it is the story that was referred to in the OP, and it is the story that is found all over the internet. It is false. The only thing I can imagine is that I have the wrong person and you were not the one who posted the Mother Jones link to the falsified story.

              In the transcript, obviously he did not call the girl any names (though he can be said to accidentally call the dog a cute kid); and as you cite above the staff person who screwed up the pictures and showed Millie when he mentioned “cute kid” was fired for making the mistake. (I wasn’t going to claim that without a cite, though I remember it. Better safe than sorry.)

              Now if you are not the person who posted the link to the falsified Mother Jones story, the one that anyone can find in the briefest of google searches because it is an urban legend that everyone just believes, then that was a mistake. Did you in fact post the link to the *false* story or was that actually my mistake? And if I was right, what are you screaming about?

              Also, no need to tell me to be quiet; it doesn’t work that way.

              • Literal says:

                Sadly, I know it doesn’t work like that. You’re a loudmouth puppet with someone’s hand shoved up your windpipe, so you’ll never shut up.
                -
                I posted a quote from an internet site as proof that he wasn’t a pedophile. And I sourced it. Are you arguing with me to suggest he IS a pedo?
                -
                If not … poor abused Rushie! Hims didn’t know with his widdle self that some EEVVVILL staff member was going to SABATOGE his televison show and turn him into an international pariah. Hims is so innocent, even thought he is the show’s pwoducer! It’s such a SAD that you just have to go ahead and cry about it on a website for 12+ SOLID HOURS because you are SO not a brainwashed dittohead.
                Right. I’m convinced! Halleulejah, amen, I iz SAVED by Anniee!
                And to think I was enjoying reading some balance here. Too bad you had to lose your fricking mind.
                Twat.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  It’s nothing to do with dittohead; I haven’t heard the guy but two or three times in the last year; it’s about cognitive dissonance *burning*. I honestly don’t know what in the HELL you’re pissed off about – I honestly, honestly don’t. The first link I saw from you was the common, falsified story; after I posted the transcript I asked if the fact that it was completely contradictory to the story you posted said anything about looking at other sources and not just believing everything we hear. It doesn’t matter whether you were defending or attacking the guy – it’s a very simple, very obvious matter of the story being opposite of the actual account, that any human being can observe if they can read basic English. What cause is that for such freaking anger?

                  Of COURSE the claim that he was a pervert was ludicrous – so what? Most of the things you see in the MSM and by leftist commenters are ludicrous, including the popular urban legend about this non-incident.

                  Why don’t you take a deep breath and figure out what about a very very simple exchange and very simple application of basic logic has made you so enraged; if you feel like telling me sometime, I’d be happy to hear it.

                  By the way, who’s claiming he was sabotaged by his staff? That wouldn’t make any more sense than saying Limbaugh did it on purpose (what purpose is there for calling a presidential dog a kid?) And I’ve already said myself no one could possibly have predicted the ridiculous accusations that grew out of it, so no one made him an intentional pariah. The fact is he has to be careful about actual mistakes because he IS hated; he’d better be sure not to say anything he doesn’t mean to say. Sounds to me like his staff guy was fired for carelessness. Or maybe Rush is a dick to work for; seems likely.

                  {shrug}

              • Literal says:

                And you want to know what I’m screaming about? Let me just tell you.
                -
                I DEFENDED RUSH LIMBAUGH AND A CONSERVATIVE IS GIVING ME FOR SHIT FOR DOING SO!
                -
                Any more questions?

            • Uncle Fester says:

              So, he apologised and fined the guy… sounds like someone gave him a kicking.

              After all this is the man who plays ‘I know I’ll never love this way again’ when doing AIDS stories… High comedy indeed…

              • Uncle Fester says:

                While the right are claiming the moral high ground and media bias…

                Dear old McCain’s rather tasteless joke being redacted from history…

              • Anniee451 says:

                You’re proving my point, which is not good for you. He does that and he called Crystal Mangum a ho before we knew she was a liar, etc. And he openly acknowledges these things, and the ones he doesn’t apologize for he thnks are funny. So…he denied this one particular thing for no reason?

                At any rate, the transcript is the opposite of the claims made in every sense of the word; it has been proven over and over now, so I really don’t know what you keep saying this for. Are you still drunk?

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Let’s have some Prime Limbaugh… Uncle Rush on the Abu Ghraib Prison Abuse…

          “This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation… And we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day [referring to the U.S. Military service members]. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release?”

          Does this sound like a man who would really blink at calling the daughter of a political ‘enemy’ a dog? Be interesting to see how well he stood up to being placed in a stress position for a few hours…

          • rhorho says:

            I’m thinking he pays good money to be placed in stress positions…

          • Anniee451 says:

            Nope – that’s Limbaugh. If he HAD called Chelsea a dog he wouldn’t deny it; he might apologize, but he wouldn’t deny. Any more than he would deny saying what you just posted. So what? The fact that he said that about Abu Ghraib doesn’t mean he said Chelsea Clinton was a dog – and in fact, he did not. The only thing one can deduce from the transcript would be that he called Millie the dog a “cute kid.” Not the reverse. It is false on every level, and was from the beginning. The version that’s been popularized on the net involving the cat and him holding up the girl’s picture and calling her names is just a more eggregious lie than the original lie that he might have implied it.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Still the great Colbert material… You’ve got to run out soon…

            • Uncle Fester says:

              but to avoid spoiling the joke… Limbaugh’s general lack of taste, decorum, or anything like ‘accuracy, means that sort of crap is wholly believable of him… and to say he wouldn’t blink is pretty much an assumption. Depends who is squeezing his balls. The level of nasty is entirely in line with other material the man produces… like all of his ilk, if he thought it was going to cost him money then he’d kill a crow and eat it to avoid loss.

              The transcript proves nothing, the aftermath only proves he got a worse reation than he’d expected… if there was no mens rea, why was some poor schmuck fired? TV boobs happen all the time… they make up the Xmas VT reel and cheap television for YEARS after… question is this… why did Rush over react. If it was a genuine ballsup then he’s general demeanour is more likely to be ‘dumb mistake, suck it up retards’ not an unequivocal apology and someone’s head on a stake…

            • lowly grunt says:

              He called her a dog. Nice try re-writing history though. Do you have to go to school for that? Rush U, perhaps?

              People have the incident on tape, love.

  37. Anniee451 says:

    Hey, there’s an ad for “The God Who Wasn’t There” on the bottom. Did anyone know that one of the main atheists in that film, who ran an avowed atheist site for years (and told us all exactly why the bible was ridiculous and untrue), has announced that he was wrong and has become a born again Christian? True story. I don’t remember his name, but I’ll find it later.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Which means what? Christians realise their imaginary friend is just that all the time… just because an Atheist has a psychotic break doesn’t mean much…

      • Uncle Fester says:

        And tbh, the bunch who did The God Who Wasn’t There (other than ‘Mad’ Bob Price) are all overdue a psychotic break. It’s the Raving Atheist who fell first… but then other than Dawkins, he’s the least stable of the bunch… Dawkins I’ve never been sure if he was sane since post – Blind Watchmaker…

        It’s an indifferently researched film, and, a lot like Annee451, takes ambiguous quotes to make a possibly spurious point – i.e. who is the ‘King’ in the parable in Luke 19:27 representing?

        • Anniee451 says:

          Two replies to this one, huh? Don’t worry; I didn’t realize you were a raging alcoholic before; that explains the poo-flinging and the lovesick following a little bit. I’ll try to let you masturbate in the corner in peace.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            It’s still great Colbert…

            The second reply was because I looked up which one had finally blown a gaskets and gone for the least likely religion on the planet… It’s up there with Scientology…

        • ubr says:

          srsly fest? luke 19:27?
          it’s a quote talking about how evil people will be destroyed if you do not follow Christ. destroyed by going to hell and not heaven… not a new parable in the Bible… anything else i can help you with?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            “It’s a quote talking about how evil people will be destroyed if you do not follow Christ.”

            Well, that’s a new Exegesis on me… Evil people will be destroyed if I don’t follow Christ… cool… I’m looking forward to it.

            • PiMan says:

              No, you misunderstand. It is Jesus saying that he will personally witness the murder of anybody who doesn’t believe him to be king.
              This is a very dangerous situation for two thirds of the population of Earth. Our murders are imminent.

  38. UncleFester'sloverSeth says:

    Seriously, even on drugs Rush is right!

    Also, have you seen her brother the Oregon State bball caoch? She looks just like him, you know how Angelina Jolie looks like Jon Voight, same thing. This is one hideous woman, and the press is talking about how good she looks?

  39. Wolvie says:

    Looks like a man.

  40. Joe says:

    good god, have you guy’s seen the dresses she picks? especially that black one wiht the red and the yellow one at the inauguration? jesus that woman has a bad sense of style…and i am honestly getting sick of liberals (not democrats) who have gotten the election get to their heads…it’s almost as though they don’t realize that there’s a real world out there…so sad…in the words of Savage, “liberalism is a mental disorder”

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Woman in the McCain-Palin frock not in your party then? That’s strange…

      • ubr says:

        i thought you were a centered libertarian who hates everyone and everything? the more posts of yours i read the more i’ve come to the realization that you are the normal run of the mill leftie… so sad…

        • Uncle Fester says:

          I’m begining to think you’re just Antifester trying to be ‘respectable’…

          since when is the subject of ‘frocks’ “politics”?

          • ubr says:

            i have too much fun ruining your posts using my own name…

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Question: How was the above a ‘leftist comment’? it referred to a LoL that appeared before you ever hoved into view…

              I’m saying if Mrs Obama’s dresses are politically something for Critique then all are… Seems to me, you’re really just a right winger who pretends to be libertarian…

              • Robert says:

                Well, although I agree with the subject of your statement, Fester, if I remember correctly is was Mrs. Palin’s dresses that became the subject for critique first.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  I think that was related to ‘cost’ IIRC… Dumping the
                  national debt of Nicuragua on the VP prospective while
                  trying to claim ‘fiscal responsibility’ just rang hollow. IIRC,
                  the leak came from within the Republican camp… Thus
                  they made it their own issue…

                  • Robert says:

                    True. But they hardly dumped the national debt of Nicaragua into it. The simple fact of the matter was the whole thing kinda happened at once and the RNC bought her some close. And the leak came from the McCain camp, which isn’t exactly bristling hard-core conservatives. Or even, you know, left-ish conservatives. It should also be noted that the leak was accompanied by a variety of other accusations from McCain staffers that both McCain and Palin said were ludicrous. I’m just glad it’s over. Part of me is really glad John didn’t win, ideological differences with Obama aside.

                    On another note, you’re absolutely right. Lack of fiscal responsibility is the main reason they lost the house in 2006, and probably didn’t help them in 2008.

                    • Scum says:

                      But when the Republicans started this childish war over how much is being spent on candidates or by them, for things such as a couple of haircuts or a pair of shoes, they’re really not in a place to whine about being held to the same lack of standards. Republicans try to live by the old ‘do as we say, not as we do’ set of morals, but some of us are tired of putting up with that crap.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Actually, it’s nothing like that… Tax evasion isn’t quite the same as mudslinging…

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        No one said much about McCain’s
                        wardrobe… but then, both the Obamas and
                        the McCains have an income that precludes
                        having to shop at K-Mart.

                      • Robert says:

                        I thought we were talking about hypocrisy…you keep doing that. But, since we’re talking about mudslinging, how about “Sarah Palin’s daughter is the real mother of the new baby!” Perhaps “Scary Sarah Palin wanted to ban books that weren’t even out yet!” And my personal favorite, “Sarah Palin fired Walt Monegan because he wouldn’t fire her ex-brother-in-law, not for repeated acts of insubordination. And while we’re at it, we’ll ignore said trooper’s drinking on the job, tasering a child, and death threats against his wife’s father, any one of which should have gotten him removed from his job, much less all three” Like that kind of mud-slinging?

                      • Robert says:

                        Yeah, most politicians do. Part of the problem with the system, if you ask me.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Sarah Palin not Track’s mother. Debunked
                        well before the election, although what
                        mother whose waters had broken would
                        deliver a speech and then fly allthe way
                        back to Alaska before seeking treatment
                        makes one question her judgement

                        Troopergate – Still not convinced there’s not
                        more to that that meets the eye. The unusual
                        step of a Justice telling the Palin clan to drop
                        it and step back is noteworthy, and idicative of
                        something that seemed to be common local
                        knowledge

                        Books – The ‘enquiry’ is just an interesting
                        insight, even though no action was actually
                        taken

                        TBH, the bloody woman is a media trainwreck.

                        But let’s not dwell on that… nor shall we dwell
                        on smears about ‘arabs’, the name ‘Obama’
                        resembling ‘Osama’, the ‘terrorist’ slurs, the
                        comments that ‘he doesn’t see America like
                        WE see America’…

                      • Robert says:

                        Well, as one of the ten people who knew anything about Sarah Palin before John decided he needed a Hail Mary, I think she was over-handled during the election, but I imagine we’ll see in 2010 when people start announcing their candidacy. As far as the Obama slurs, the only people who had anything to benefit when the “Obama is a Muslim” bruhaha started was the Clinton campaign, and I’d bet my left nut it was Hillary’s people who dug all that up. The name Obama does resemble Osama, much to the chagrin of pundits on both the right and the left, who couldn’t hardly get either name out without screwing it up. A particularly amusing sound bite is ol’ Teddy K screaming “Why don’t we just ask Osama Obama…” on the floor of the senate. And I believe the woman who said “terrorist fist bump” was fired before the chair she was sitting on had cooled off. Finally, anyone who sits in the church of a nut like Jeremiah Wright for 20 years certainly gives the impression that they see things differently. That would be like a Republican who sat in Pat Robertson’s church for 20 years.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Playing Christian is never a good move…

                        Hanging out in a place where people believe in the rapture and speak in tongues really doesn’t bespeak of a highly sophisticated brain either…

    • Scum says:

      Well Joe, if you don’t like her dresses, don’t wear them. It’s pretty simple.
      -
      You seem to have a problem with ‘liberalism’. You have no problem with no-progress, stuck-in-stone, we don’t recognize anything since ‘bible-days’ types of conservatives though do you?
      -
      You think liberals have let the election get to their heads? I haven’t seen Obama or anyone else in the party flitting about screaming ‘mandate’ the way Bush did.
      -
      The real world of which you speak is one where your guys f’ed it up so badly that the country realized it’s former mistake and put the current administration into office to clean up your mess. Deal with it.

      • Alpha says:

        Well, you can’t put lipstick on a pig… uh.. I guess you can!

      • Robert says:

        “I won. So I think on that one, I trump you.”-President Barack Obama

        “I didn’t come to Washington to be bipartisan.”-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

        The first one is in the link, the second should be easy enough to find if you use google. To make sure I’m not accused of taking her out of context, she then went on to claim to be “non-partisan,” which is kinda’ like Michael Savage or Keith Olbermann claiming to be non partisan, imo.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          I’ve seen them trying to spin the ‘I won…’ comment as ‘humour’…
          My
          Entire
          Lilly White
          English
          Arse…
          His mask slipped… it happens.

        • Scum says:

          “I won” [link]

          Guess what, he did win. Even if you have a problem with it, it’s fact.
          -
          In context, Obama did say it in a somewhat humorous way, and even the Republicans said so. (Do you think the Repubs were lying?) Yet there was meaning behind it. He was saying ‘look people, we’re going to work with you, but in the end, remember, I won, and I’m going to be making the final decisions’. I don’t see a problem with that because unlike Bush who ran around screaming ‘mandate’, Obama is working with the Republicans (and what did he get for his efforts on his first attempt? Stabbed in the back, but we shouldn’t be too surprised about that).

          Bush refused to work with the Democrats to come up with bi-partisan solutions. Where he had to work with them, he simply eradicated their contribution later with his signing statements.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            No, although I expect politicians to be power hungry and liars :)

            • Literal says:

              Are you guys just trying to get this monstrosity to 1,000 posts?
              It takes 15 minutes to load …

              • Scum says:

                Don’t you know that if we hit 5,000, all wars will end, world peace will ensue.
                Poverty will end.
                All the gods will rejoice.
                We’ll be living in paradise.
                -
                Either that, or the server will crash.

                • Robert says:

                  OK, first of all, Bush let Ted freaking Kennedy write the education bill. I’m not really sure what else he could have done. And Obama isn’t “working with Republicans.” He’s scratching the backs of the people who got him elected while simultaneously screaming that it’s a stimulus bill and the world will end if we don’t pass this pork-laden monstrosity. That’s not the change that was promised.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    Which proves what?
                    Every President since Washington has lied, played the
                    old boy network, and generally ensured they have a
                    pension in the form of a lot of gold, or a career of
                    non-executive directorates and after dinner speaking,
                    while endowing the obligatory Ego Library…

                    • Robert says:

                      Eh, maybe not every President. But I agree with your theme. In all fairness, and I don’t like him at all, but at least Clinton did little more than make himself a ridiculously overpaid speaker post-White House. And I get that, but it’s insulting to everyone’s intelligence when you do that and claim it’s some kind of boon to the economy.

            • Scum says:

              I can’t argue with that.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              As an addendum to the bald comment, I’ve found it a view that has served me well down the years.

      • Scum says:

        …Savage, “liberalism is a mental disorder”

        We’re now supposed to believe any of the ‘moderate’ things you say above, why…?

        • Joe says:

          the reason i quoted savage you insolent moron, is because of the fact that it basically says that any extremity of anything is bad! does your puny little brain comprehend that?!

          • Scum says:

            Yeah, ’cause moderates always explode in furor after being asked a simple question as to why they trashed only the left, yet we’re supposed to believe that meant they’re against both the right and left.
            -
            Anniee? Is that you again? You do know that switching genders is against good moral republican ethics don’t you?
            -
            Nice to see the addadicktome went well. When do you get the balls?

            • rhorho says:

              I think she always had the balls. I was hoping she would do
              something about the tumor, though…

            • Robert says:

              Actually, the problem with moderates is the opposite. They have no spine, no drive, no energy, no passion. Please tell me what great social change is the result of moderates? Perhaps the end of slavery? Wait, no… Perhaps women’s suffrage…wait, not there, either. I know! The Civil Rights movement. Nope, that’s not it either. Quite frankly, I’d rather have our politicians cursing and shouting at each other than sitting around trying to make a decision on the color of the drapes because everything else is too controversial.

  41. jerseygirl in GA says:

    I cannot understand why people think this is tasteless or vulgar. There is nothing wrong with a woman protecting her kids, and when those kids are in the spotlight like the Obama girls of COURSE you want to protect them from someone known to make rude comments about the children of democrat presidents.

    I thought this was a funny and appropriate LOL.

    • Anniee451 says:

      Jersey Girl – I know the thread is an impossible size, but there are like 20 posts detailing the fact that Rush did NOT say any such thing about Chelsea Clinton, including the transcript, the devolution of the story, and witnesses.

      Second, it wasn’t funny, and that makes it worse. It could be forgiven for being untrue, but not unfunny. Not tasteless or vulgar (who said that?) just…not working and not accurate.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        There aren’t 20 posts, there was one transcript that you posted that actually shewed the reverse of what you intended to show…

        • froofrou says:

          Out of curiosity, why is a semi-intentional flub on a (supposedly) defunct radio show hosted by a nut being blown to these proportions, but a skit on a (semi-well-respected) show hosted by everyone in Hollywood and presided over by a left-winger about Todd Palin being the father of Bristol Palin’s baby and sleeping with the other daughters in his family immediately taken down and never talked about?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Because it was established quickly as untrue?

            • Robert says:

              How about “because one is a conservative and the other helped get Obama get elected”? That’s seems more accurate, since a rather large percentage of Obama voters believed Tina Fey quotes were actually said by Palin.

          • Anniee451 says:

            You mean television show, and there was nothing “intentional” except the hatchet job by the media afterwards. But I doubt they suspected the accusation would not only stick for 16 years, but that it would mutate into this ridiculous story that doesn’t even approach the second-long shot of the wrong picture. For it to devolve into a whole bizarre story involving Clintoon’s cat and Limbaugh outright calling the girl names? The media at the time merely claimed possible intent; there is no way they could have foreseen the modern left’s dogged and insane tenacity and capacity for lies.

            And there are sites still posting pictures of Palin during her pregnancy and claiming she couldn’t possibly have been Trig’s mother; they get calls and mail every day regarding that non-issue. Even though she didn’t even win the election. Her church was set on fire, which wasn’t so funny. These stories the left spins never die, apparently. Now with the internet playground, they just mutate and keep growing into caricatures of themselves.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              The transcript you’ve given proves nothing… the reading certainly
              doesn’t unequivocally show any ‘error’. Based on Limbaugh’s
              record for making what are basically ‘nasty’ comments, the hony
              soit que mal y pense defence really just rings hollow.

      • lowly grunt says:

        All posted by you, love.

        Here’s a different one. [link]

  42. A_Real_American says:

    She needn’t worry, she supplies enough ignorance and stupidity, not to mention sheer ugly-looks, Rush has no need to even look at those bastard kids that really belong to her pimp.

  43. lollollllloololololoo says:

    Penis.

  44. the floacist says:

    The media was horrible to Chelsea Clinton. As if it isn’t awkward enough growing up. But Michelle has nothing to worry about, her daughters are beautiful.

  45. Cowpie says:

    Mmmm, Rush is OK. Jon and Ken are totaly awesome! Tax revolt ’09 *Heads on a stick* Mwahahahaaaaa

    AAAAnd, I don’t care how they look, as long as they do a decent job!

  46. Danbala says:

    From what I’ve seen (and this is a bit unscientific, I know), but the various other factors mention don’t seem to have nearly the effect of broken families.
    Equally unscientifically, my experience is the other way around. :)

  47. Robert says:

    That’s beautiful. See, I like it when you say stuff like that. It’s ever so true. WE may disagree on most everything, but at least we’re both cynical when it comes to politicians.

  48. Robert says:

    This may come as a shock to you, but political affilitations aren’t really heritable…so you might be a lib. Similarly, Obama’s kids might turn out to be to the right of Ann Coulter. Which would be absolutely delicious.

  49. Robert says:

    Which you’d think they would, you know, after they directly contributed to the death of one of them.

  50. ELO says:

    aww..are more liberals talkin shit about conservative radio??

    lol i dont think they can talk…how many main stream liberal shows are there compared to consevative ones??? hardly any

  51. karl! says:

    thats not a joke..
    thats just someone being mad?

  52. lazerlolz says:

    Just because Rush Limbaugh is never wrong does not mean that Michelle has the right to PMS over funny things he says.

  53. da man says:

    I think the person who posted this “poster” was looking for a pissed off Michelle Obama…which this picture accurately captures.

  54. Mama says:

    This “lol” has a poor rating, NOT because we love Rush (he is an asshole) but because this particular caption SUCKS BALLS!

    It’s too LONG and complicated and kills any chance of a punchline for taking itself too seriously.

    COMEDIC TIMING FAIL.

  55. Ben says:

    I think the caption “I hate white people” would have been more fitting.

  56. Sexymofo says:

    Michelle Obama = Jackie Kennedy wannabe

    • Robert says:

      You may be right, but I would make the argument that the cult of personality around Barack is largely to recapture that old Kennedy nostalgia. People forget the fact that, if not for his assasination, Kennedy would probably be remembered as a drug addled sex fiend and not a fiscal conservative who stood up to the Soviets. Of course, a lot of the mystique around Kennedy has nothing to do with substance at all, and is also cult of personality.

  57. observer says:

    I have an idea…why not have a discussion of the real point of the submittal?

    It could be:
    1. modern day version of good versus evil struggle (you decide which is which)

    2. the abuse of innocent children for the purpose of making money and gaining fame/power for oneself

    3. something more relevant than camera angles, her hands or what your posting number is…

  58. vinnie says:

    She is scary. So is Obama as a matter of fact. Stimulus eh? How about spending package.

  59. NoBomma says:

    Hmm, I would rather listen to Rush than this concieted witch who hates this great country of ours. Not that it will be great for long since her anti Christ husband is now running things. And the idoit that submitted this, what kind of drugs are you on? You exhibit the very signs of massive brain damage. Do you get a thrill up your leg also from your commie buddy Barry Hussein? Get a life.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      ‘This Great county…’ okay…

      If you have access to sharps, I suggest you play with them…

      • Robert says:

        Ahh, and in comes Fester with an assinine non-sequitor. How about commenting on the substance, boss? Yes, great country. I realize that as a jaded cynic, nothing is great in your world, but some of use still have a little national pride. Quite frankly, Michelle is kind of a shrew, and has demonstrated that with her words many times. What amuses me about this particular caption was that she got all butt-hurt because some toy company named their little black girl dolls after her daughters! Holy crap! Heaven forbid someone show enough positive inclination towards your daughters to want to name dolls after them! Good Lord.

        That said, “NoBomma” (spelled wrong) seems to have serious case of keyboard diarrhea, and makes minimal points with maximum ramble. That seems like something worth commenting on.

  60. micmil says:

    She is MAD.

  61. GEAH says:

    Prepare for it, Mrs. Obama. Look at what they said about Gov. Palin’s children. I didn’t see you running to her defense.

  62. cgray says:

    Uh, Rush has a bloated ass? And when it comes to illegal drug use, do the Obamas and about 90% of Democrats have the right to insult others?

  63. ebrock says:

    Hey! Obama married a beautiful person, well educated, great job making over $100,000.00 and she can get in front of a crowd and speak brilliantly. She gave him two wonderful children and all four of them are great role models for all people. I think Michele is a cute lady for her age. She is close to fifty. I remember Barbara Bush she looked like death all pale , fat, with no makeup. Barbara look 20 years older than Bush.

  64. Sean says:

    This woman just looks flat out mean and nasty all the time, even pics of here smiling or laughing look insincere and contrived.

  65. Cameron Hunter says:

    you tell him


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