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BULLET-PROOF VESTS   Don’t you hate how they make you look fat!

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  1. Aedriel says:

    Is she even wearing one? I think she’d look much more… well, less blubbery.

  2. Petra says:

    Omg thats so funny…lol.

  3. Alec says:

    Wow I didn’t know cops could have bullet-proof vests that are that big…………yeah.

  4. AC says:

    Well done, Literal…. Again!

    • the_original_shortright says:

      alright, now i’m convinced she’s sleeping with the moderator. this is #6 on the front page since jan 31… something’s fishy.

      • ubr says:

        haha… i’m starting to agree with you…

      • rhorho says:

        I think FastFood has something on the moderators, and she has something
        on FastFood…

        • Literal says:

          Wow. Thanks.

          • rhorho says:

            Your secret’s safe with me. I won’t breathe a word of it to anyone…

            • Literal says:

              Okay, so between this and the last posting, I suck, blow, jerk, f*ck and apparently do something with fast food to get to the front page. Oh yeah, I am wallowing in gallons of cum and slurping up trays of double-cheeses.
              -
              Well, I guess it’s a good thing I have my career, husband, family and dignity to keep me from drowning.

              • rhorho says:

                Why are you saying this to me? Mine was a good-natured
                ribbing. I said you “had something” on FastFood.

                Look it up. I was implying that you were blackmailing him.

                Get it?

              • rhorho says:

                “have something (or nothing) on someone”

                [Informal] to have some (or no) unfavorable evidence against
                someone

                [LINK]

                • Literal says:

                  I’m supposed to just know that FastFood is a person? You said I had something on FastFood, and that wasn’t meant as anything derogatory?
                  And you were agreeing with the nesting that I am apparently sleeping my way to the front page, no? Otherwise, would you not have posted independently?
                  Is this really necessary?

                  • rhorho says:

                    Back when you were Sardonic, socking as Enuff, then
                    Noob, I didn’t say anything, thinking you deserved a
                    fresh start and a second chance.

                    You vowed you wouldn’t post on PK again, then
                    changed names and avoided political discussions.

                    I gave you good advice then, and you seemed to be
                    doing well for a while. Now you’re back on the attack,
                    thinking you’re in charge of what people are allowed
                    to say on your LOL. You obviously can’t take a joke.
                    None of us were being serious–PLEASE!

                    Make no mistake now: You are waaay too dramatic
                    for me! For some reason, you single me out to pick
                    on, when I was the only one who cut you any slack
                    in the first place. Why didn’t you say anything to TOS
                    or ubr? Hmm?

                    [LINK] heatherjlc = Sardonic

                    • Literal says:

                      Oh, now that’s hilarious, and your recent sudden animosity makes total sense now. If you thought that was actually me, and that my supposed histrionics existed, why did you ask me to “friend” you, and why would I deign to accept?
                      -
                      I’m intrigued, but really, I don’t much care. Link away, besmirch away, say what you want, it doesn’t bother me. I am not, nor have I ever been, Sardonic, Enuff, or Noob, and I don’t even know who TOS is. And I used to have a .msn account. Not anymore.
                      -
                      I am, however, heatherjlc, and always have been since I was in high school. Anyone can find that through a google search. If you chose to hijack it for your own purposes, that’s your business, isn’t it?

                      • rhorho says:

                        Check the link. It’s you, posting as Sardonic,
                        begging people to contact you via your email.

                        You posed as your daughter in a cheap attempt
                        to get an edge in an argument, the same way
                        AF used dead war buddies.

                        You then swore you would never post on PK
                        again, so we know how good your word is.

                        You were doing fine for a while, but now you’re
                        back to your old ways.

                        Good luck with that.

                        • Literal says:

                          Checked the link.
                          Not me. Never have had a hotmail account. Did, however, have an msn.
                          You’re wrong, rho, and I was posting as Literal and heatherjlc on ICHC sites well before that date.

                        • rhorho says:

                          What color is the sky in your world?

                          It’s ironic that you tell people to RUN, don’t
                          walk, to therapy…

                          Got a mirror, S A R D O N I C???

                        • Literal says:

                          Right. Say whatever you need to feel better.
                          Take good care now.

                        • rhorho says:

                          You’re either delusional or you think the rest
                          of us are stupid or both.

                          How many heatherjlc’s do you think there
                          are on PK, who are also drama queens?

                          You were doing well there for a while. You’re
                          a good candidate for therapy.

                        • Literal says:

                          Test

                        • Literal says:

                          heatherjlc@msn.com
                          -
                          I won’t talk to you anymore, either.

                        • rhorho says:

                          [LINK]

                          Here you are, as Noob and as Literal, on
                          January 14th, with the same avatar as
                          you had when you were Sardonic.

                          Time to teach you a new word: PWNED!!!

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Rho “Maigret” Rho pulls the goods again!

                        • rhorho says:

                          Good morning, Unc.

                          I’ve linked a little ditty to start your day off
                          right!

                        • lowly grunt says:

                          What was the point of all that?

                        • charro says:

                          Damn being out of work I miss all the good stuff by sleeping in.

                        • rhorho says:

                          @LG: I don’t know why she lied about it, but,
                          as I said above, she’s either delusional, or
                          she thinks we’re all stupid, or both.

                          Anyway, if you’re not familiar, Sardonic was
                          the one who arrived at PK a while back,
                          managed to everybody off in short order,
                          then socked as her daughter to try to garner
                          sympathy. When all of that failed to work,
                          she claimed she was going to leave PK and
                          never return.

                          At first, I tried to talk her down. She seemed
                          like an intelligent person, and it seemed that
                          a little coaxing could possibly get her to
                          settle down and play nicely.

                          When she came back as Literal (after going
                          through a bunch of socks), she displayed a
                          similar pattern/bio, but there was no need to
                          question her because she seemed to be doing
                          okay. At some point I convinced myself that
                          it was silly and I was just being paranoid.
                          Despite that, when the avatars came up, she
                          checked out to be one and the same. It still
                          didn’t make sense to call her out until she
                          started pulling crap again.

                          Anyway, one of her posts above was late to
                          show up, so I just now saw it. In it, she
                          indicates that she’s not going to speak to me.
                          Perhaps she will keep her word this time.

                          Somehow, in her twisted head, I’m to blame
                          for her earlier rantings, sockings, and recent
                          rantings, without which I wouldn’t have
                          called her out.

                          Of course, I’m going to draw fire. At first
                          (before she reappeared as Literal), it seemed
                          as though “no good deed goes unpunished.”
                          With more deliberation, it now seems to be a
                          lesson on choosing friends wisely.

                        • rhorho says:

                          2nd paragraph:

                          …managed to *piss everybody off…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Lot of howling loon monkeys out there… and we seem to meet them one by one…

                    • Danbala says:

                      Considering your record of inflammatory posts under a variety of names, I can certainly see why you react so negatively to someone engaging in something similar to troll hunting.
                      .
                      Don’t worry – I think you might be too obvious for rho to bother with you.
                      .
                      I, otoh, am bored enough to feed the troll. :p

              • the_original_shortright says:

                they’re called jokes… which apparently you’re having trouble grasping right now.

  5. Hell Hath No Fury says:

    You know, the camera adds 10 lbs…..not 100.

  6. lowly grunt says:

    Good heavens.

  7. Deek says:

    Is that a big ol’ turkey leg she’s holding? What, is she at the Ren Faire?

    • And it looks real good too… Damn, now I am hungry.

      • I’ll split a turkey leg with you. Like I said, I can’t eat a whole one by myself.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          I tend to wonder what crap they’ve fed to make a turkey bigger than a five year old child…

          • ubr says:

            did you see the kid that was born recently that weighed 14lbs? [link]

            • Holy crap, that’s a big baby! Although if that’s his mom standing next to him, she’s not a tiny little person herself.

              • mothergoose says:

                I pushed out an 11 pounder (my third child)…each one was a pound heavier than the one before…thank God for Tubal Ligation…don’t think I could go for a 12-plus baby…

                • Wow. My biggest was 10 (the 4th) but I had the same experience of each one being bigger than the predecessor. Did yours get later, too? My first was early, the second was pretty much timely, third was late, 4th was WTF-get-born-already late! And I’ll second the thank God for tubal ligations, much as I love my kids, 4 is plenty. And I’m not giving up The Sex.

                  • mothergoose says:

                    Amen on the sex!!! Mine were all within a week of the due date…but the labors went quicker (thank god)…11 hours with my daughter, 4 hours with my first son, 2 hours with my second son…unfortunately on the last (and biggest), the epidural didn’t take…I tell all my expecting friends who want the “natural childbirth experience”, the breathing is good, but THE DRUGS WORK!!! TAKE THE EPI-BY-GOD-DURAL!!!!!

                    • Captain Wow says:

                      I know I’ll be getting the epidural. My Dad got his knee replaced at our local hospital which I fondly refer to as the ‘Band-Aid Station’ and his epidural wore off two hours after he came to. They didn’t fix the problem until six hours later. I screamed the faces off of all of those damn nurses. Noobs.
                      *grumbles*
                      No kids yet, but once I’m out of college, that’s next on the list!

                      • Motas says:

                        Do yourself a HUGE favor & get married first. Having a hubs there to share the loads (and blame!) is probably the best thing you can do for yourself & the kid.

                    • Confession time: I never could do an epidural, because I’m more chicken about the idea of a NEEDLE IN MY FREAKIN’ SPINE :shock: than about childbirth. The whole idea makes me cringe and shudder. (Only thing worse would be seeing a clown come after me with intent of sticking a needle in my spine…)

                      • Captain Wow says:

                        We share the fear of clowns. I had mono for an entire summer, so needles are no sweat with me. It’s a legitimate fear though, don’t get me wrong. I have to have hydration and blood taken three or four times a week. I got down to around 85 pounds (I’m 5’4) and it was bad. I’ll take needles over that any day.

                        • That IS bad! We’re about the same height and I know if I weighed 85 pounds…yeah. That’s scary. On a more humorous mono note, I had it in high school (not as bad as yours, for sure!) and passed my recovery time reading The Stand for the first time. Possibly not the best choice when your symptoms are somewhat similar to the superflu. I can take needles in my arms or other body parts no problem, just very touchy about my spine and eyeballs. I have a friend who’s having to have injections in her eyeballs and that would…I’d have to be knocked out or something.

                      • Hell Hath No Fury says:

                        DO NOT HAVE ONE! I had one, not by choice. My daughter was 7 weeks early and breech, so had to have a C-section. *yay for gross scars* They told me it wouldn’t hurt, my experienced obstetrician would be performing it. Riiight. Then came the burning, excruciating pain. They let a med school kid do it! She was 19, had never done it before! I was her ‘hands-on’ test! She got nervous and hit a nerve in my spine. Couldn’t walk without falling for nine days. Legs kept going numb. I’m fine now, but if I have to bend at my back, say cleaning the tub or working on my car, my legs go numb, shooting pain in my stomach, etc. At least I didn’t have to pay my doc for the surgery, since he didn’t do it, and f’ed up.

                        • Lynn had one with both of our boys. They helped and didn’t have complications. *shrugs*

                        • froofrou says:

                          I had one, and not a single complication yet. I loved the way my toes went numb first, and it traveled up to my waist. Then it went away in reverse. I didn’t even feel the first needle that they used to numb the site of the epi.
                          -
                          Epi is my frin!!!!
                          -
                          P.S. I had a C-Section too. What’s up with your scar? Mine is pretty much gone, and this was only 8 months ago.

                        • charro says:

                          PK ate my post.
                          *trims down post*
                          They let a 19 year old near your spine? I would think one would need more education than a 19 year old can achieve before administering drugs via someone’s spine.

                        • charro says:

                          Oh my god there it is. Shocking.

                        • Hell Hath No Fury says:

                          I didn’t know she was there, they had my head in one of those magical braces to keep me from turning over, and I was on my side facing away from her. My male indian doctor was talking to me throughout the ordeal and then I heard a very female ‘oh shit i can’t do this’ and I was like….um, who was that? his daughter, one of those indian child prodigies who graduates when they’re like 4. She had two years of college prior, and it would have been TOTALLY different if he had even asked me if it was okay for her to even be in the room.
                          As for the scar, froo, it’s not very visible, but it’s just not loverly like it used to be and i’m totally self-conscious about it, like I should have a purple heart and a war story lol. I’m one of those lucky people that can’t get a scratch without scarring. Just kill me now lol

                        • charro says:

                          Two years of college doesn’t seem like enough time for anyone to learn the placement of a needle into a spinal chord.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          That’s because it’s not… nowhere near.

                        • charro says:

                          Is this another HHNF fabrication?

                        • Motas says:

                          I had epi’s for both births. 1st time was a one-dose-at-a-time number, but the anethesiologist (sp?) was phenominal..I didn’t feel a thing! (Until it wore off. Ouch) 2nd go round was continous drip, but the anesthesiologist that time wasn’t too skillful & the needle hurt a little going in. Both births went well & I’ve only two awesome teens & a disgusting web of strechmarks left.

          • B. Phil says:

            From my one semester of poultry science, they basically feed poultry a carefully crafted diet designed to get the maximum growth out of the animal from nutrition alone. Kinda like how Americans and Europeans are huge compared to your stereotypical Asian folks (Yao Ming notwithstanding)

            • froofrou says:

              It’s electrolytes, natural growth hormones, and craploads of feed, coupled with no exercise and genetics.
              -
              *more than one semester* ;-)

              • rhorho says:

                Don’t they keep the lights on them all the time so they will eat
                more and sleep less, or am I about to be sent to Snopes?

                • froofrou says:

                  They don’t leave the lights on all the time. They have pre-set numbers of hours based on the age of the bird. Some growers will in fact grow their birds in under almost no light (.5 candles) in order to keep the birds from freaking out. It’s a genetic thing, mostly, as far as the freaking out goes. Some birds are more prone to it than others.
                  -
                  Anything else? :-)

                  • rhorho says:

                    You have told me in the past, but I have forgotten, and
                    I think (given the economic times) it bears repeating:
                    What is the best value (meat for the money) form of
                    chicken to buy?

                    (I will write the answer down this time.)

                    • froofrou says:

                      Whole bird chicken. It’s a pain in the butt to debone, but it’s a better value for your money. If you want to buy a ‘taken-apart’ chicken, I’d suggest whole legs. They’re a little more expensive per pound than leg quarters, but, with a leg quarter, you’re paying for the weight of a back that you won’t be able to eat. Breast meat is the worst value, with the possible exception of a boneless thigh. Too much work goes into deboning it, and they charge a crap load for it.

                      • rhorho says:

                        *takes notes* Thank you!

                        I hope a lot of people read your post because it
                        will help them save $$$!

                      • Steve says:

                        Cooking a whole chicken also gives you the best flavor(IMO). The bones lend a lot of flavor to the meat as it cooks. It also tends to be much, much more moist and juicy than boneless, skinless, tasteless chicken breasts.

                        • charro says:

                          You just have to season the breasts correctly and cook them in liquid.

                        • Or fry those babies. Mmm. Crispy deep-fried strips of chicken breast with some ranch. Hungry now.

                        • Steve says:

                          Deep fried is the way to go. Although, you can bread and deep fry damn near anything and it will be delicious. I bet even the dust bunnies under my sofa would come out nearly edible.

                        • charro says:

                          mmmm Deep fried Dust Bunnies….

                        • froofrou says:

                          Mmmmmmm, deep fried deep fried drippings…….

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          I may have to get out my lemon breasted chicken again…

                          And call me soft heated if you must, but I
                          don’t buy intensively reared chicken, nor do
                          I buy pre-packed chicken legs… eating
                          battery hen meat really isn’t a good deal.
                          The amount of female hormones they pump
                          those suckers with isn’t healthy for humans.
                          I also dislike the fact you can often see the
                          brown patches of of the excrement burns in
                          the flesh… it’s like finding a tattoo on pork
                          that reads ‘Mum’…
                          So, organic and free range or not at all.
                          I’m not squeamish about meat, since I’m a
                          nose to tail carnivore, but when it comes
                          down to wilfully unpleasant conditions
                          simply to turn a profit, then I baulk.

                        • froofrou says:

                          It depends a lot on where you get your chicken, as far as ammonia burns go. The growers are usually held to certain standards, but you have some idiots in there.
                          -

                        • rhorho says:

                          Is there some sort of limitation on female
                          hormones given to chickens? Is there any
                          data on how much is harmful to humans?

                          *is suddenly suspicious of food*

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          ammonia burns

                          Asda (that’s UK Wal*Mart), and a number of other ‘reputable’ supermarkets.
                          These days I buy local where possible.
                          And no, there’s no data, but I stopped eating stuff I knew had any female hormone feeding since I happen to own a prostate I’m very fond of…

                        • Aedriel says:

                          Hormone use in chicken is illegal in the US.

                        • rhorho says:

                          According to froofrou, who is in the industry,
                          the use of “natural growth hormones” is
                          standard in the U.S.

                        • froofrou says:

                          ‘natural growth hormones’ fall under the same category as HGH. It’s still considered ‘natural’, although in some ways it’s cheating.
                          -
                          Most of what is given them is electolytes and copious amounts of feed, plus, as I said, the genetics of the line are such that you can grow a 6-8lbs chicken in 6 weeks. It used to take up to 20 weeks to get that. Of course, if you’re not careful, you can grow them so fast that they outgrow their own organs, and die, but that’s an occupational hazard.

                        • Aedriel says:

                          An occupational hazard for whom? The chicken? Her occupation is to die anyway… I’m afraid I don’t understand…

                        • rhorho says:

                          I get the sneaking suspicion that the job
                          description involves living long enough to
                          reach a killable size. This is all very freakish
                          to me now. I don’t eat red meat, so I eat
                          more fish and fowl than most people.

                          I hope it’s okay to glow in the dark…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          and have silver specks in your blood…

    • Could be; also could be some other type of event. Probably a county/state fair. Don’t they have smoked turkey legs at yours? They’re pretty awesome, although I can’t actually eat a whole one myself.

    • thereisnodanaonlyzuul says:

      Just left Medieval Times

  8. ubr says:

    someone please tell me she’s not an LA sheriff…

  9. AngelMax says:

    I can hardly believe nobody has mentioned the punctuation fail yet?

  10. Rafiq of the many says:

    Holy shit, she’s thicker than a whole case of snickers.

  11. colonel sandurz says:

    Isn’t there is a physical fitness test fot police personel?

    • MLD says:

      Assuming she’s a cop, and not a ‘rent-a-cop’and even if she is, many in some places, once you’re on the job there’s no standard for maintaining fitness

  12. Fnubian says:

    Now THATS equal opportunity employment in action.

  13. Rafiq of the many says:

    Holy Cow! This Lady is thicker than a case of snickers!

  14. Yer Mom says:

    Don’t you hate how fat-phobia makes you look like a raving jackass?

  15. pop pop says:

    funny thing about very large people is that they use the belt to hold the fat, and not the pants! Pants are hold by the fat.

  16. DixieCaverns says:

    Don’t you hate when shallow body-snarking comments make you look callous and ignorant? I do.

    Asshats.

  17. BAW says:

    How can she pass her department’s fitness requirements? I can’t imagine her being able to get over the obstacle course or run a mile or do any of the other things that police officers are supposed to be able to do.

  18. SandraL says:

    And with this lame fat joke, Pundit Kitchen just jumped the shark….

  19. markmier says:

    Um, you’re new here, aren’t you?

  20. Danbala says:

    I giggled more at this post than at the lol. (Sorry, Literal, but this outcomedied it.) :)

  21. Brits? No, I’m an American jerk, thank you.

  22. Chairman_Mao says:

    Wild snorlax spotted!

  23. Uncle Fester says:

    Brits? There’s more than me here? Bugger me with a fence post and call me ‘Ruprecht’…

  24. valerie says:

    Hm… My husband couldn’t get a job with the sheriff’s department after he got out of the army due to his back injury, even though he was able to pass the physical tests without any problems. And these are the people who get hired? Awesome.

    • Just remember… Life is fair. ;)

    • Hell Hath No Fury says:

      That’s cool. I got rejected for a government job close to home bcause a raving bulldike applied and they told me, without stuttering or sugar-coating anything, that the government is required to hire a certain amount of ‘special interest/minority employees’. Boy did he have his foot in his mouth when I said, ‘that’s funny, I’m bisexual, but since I didn’t gain 50 lbs and chop my hair off and dress like a biker to a professional interview, I didn’t get hired. Should I have put “Big Lesbian” somewhere on my applications?’
      I got the job. She was a crappy welder anyways.

  25. celebratory says:

    Her head is too small!! Photoshop?

  26. Hell Hath No Fury says:

    You’re the ONLY one who mentioned her race. So, who’s racist? And ‘while’ we’re at it, she’d be a big broad even if she were white. And I’m not British. That in itself is bigoted.

  27. Anniee451 says:

    So what does fat-bashing have to do with politics?

    Then again my favorite post here was the one about the pope kicking it into hyperdrive and that’s not very political either – but at least he’s a political figure.

    • Captain Obvious says:

      THis site’s called “Pundit Kitchen, LOL News and LOL Politics Fun.”
      She got her fat ass on the news, thus she is fair game.
      Quit crying, fatass.
      God, you just have to be stupid, don’t you?

      • Anniee451 says:

        Wow, thanks for the name of the site – I couldn’t figure it out. And if she’s on the news only because she’s eating while fat (clearly not allowed) that’s not “news.” I didn’t say she wasn’t fair game, I asked what fat-bashing had to do with politics.

        I guarandamn-tee you half the people here laughing and pointing are fat too – if not more. That’s a given. But adipose tissue isn’t a character flaw, so whatever.

      • rhorho says:

        I don’t really see how this fits into the news category, though. Perhaps it
        would have been better suited for Fail Blog.

        • Anniee451 says:

          Not a fail. Unless fat people aren’t allowed to eat or have jobs.

          • viking gal says:

            Actually, I’m finding myself agreeing with you… And I imagine, in a different mood, you would get the majority agreeing (there was some extensive discussion regarding that over the gal who was sitting in a fast-food kitchen sink a while back).
            But I’ve also that PK folk don’t seem to like anyone telling them that they shouldn’t find something funny. And even less so if the person stating that has been previously arguing in a very hostile tone…which you have been in other comment threads. It makes you a less-than-persuasive source of argument, I’m afraid. Actually, I’m in a bit of shock, finding that I agree with something you’ve wrote, given that your writing is a combination of Howard Stern and Karl Rove…

            • rhorho says:

              To defend myself, I clarified below. Annie is implying that my
              “fail” comment was aimed at the woman being fat, which it was
              not. Anniee failed by assuming my intention, but we can get that
              business ironed out: She’s still getting used to us.

          • Literal says:

            Wow. You’re dangerously close to espousing the most leftist liberal ideology possible here. It’s okay for a police officer to be so out of shape that she is unable to perform her duties, and we should support her choices whether she refuses to confrom to departmental physical standards or no?
            Don’t tell me I’m wrong. If someone snatched your child at the fair she is apparently at in uniform, you’d expect her to respond in an appropriate manner and thus, whether on duty or off, apprehend the criminal. You believe that this person, in the shape she is in, could do so?
            I don’t. My friend, who is a deputy sheriff and attempting to get back into shape to conform to departmental standards, would agree.

            • Anniee451 says:

              I’m saying you honestly don’t KNOW what shape she is in by the mere presence of fat. You can not gauge someone’s health, fitness level, or character by their body type. It may be that she is out of shape and it may be that she is not; the picture is silent on the matter. You also do not know if she is able to perform her duties. Not by a picture.

              And I can understand your being annoyed; I’ve ragged on a bunch of your pictures already; but it wasn’t intended to be some vendetta against you. I have a feeling none of the ones I make are going to end up on the front page, you know? ;)

              • telefil says:

                I will confirm the size/fat/fitness issue, as there is a girl at the office who would be considered not just overweight but quite obese. This girl can play baseball like nobody’s business, and doesn’t get a pinch-runner ‘cos she does all her running. She also participates in long-distance runs. But she’s still fat. She’ll nevertheless outlive me ;_;

                • viking gal says:

                  I’ve been cross-country skied into the ground by a couple of women who were only a size or 2 smaller than the lady in this picture–and I was in my late 20′s and as fit as could be at the time!

            • Anniee451 says:

              And FTR I would be considered socially liberal – libertarians generally are.

              • viking gal says:

                I know that about libertarians. I’m dating one. We tend to see each other’s point
                about taxes, health insurance and the like–but we don’t agree!

        • froofrou says:

          I think PK is where they put the pics that don’t really fit anywhere else. Having said that, I think Anniee’s statement above puts her firmly in the ‘bigot’ category.

          • the_original_shortright says:

            froo, i rushed over here as soon as i saw your comment on facebook. it’s not too terrible… yet.

          • Anniee451 says:

            What in the HELL? **I’M** the one who didn’t approve of the fat-bashing and I’m NOT the one who made fun of the fat woman, and **I’M** the bigot?

            Ok you’re totally just f*&^ing with me, right? You can’t POSSIBLY be serious? 99% of the people on this thread are bigoted against fat people you moron. I’m not one of them. I am, however, bigoted against morons who can’t see what’s in front of their faces. Like you.

            • froofrou says:

              Here’s a quote from your post above:
              “I guarandamn-tee you half the people here laughing and pointing are fat too – if not more. That’s a given.”
              -
              You just called all the posters here fat because they’re posting here. You’re a bigot.

              • Anniee451 says:

                Bullspit. It’s only an INSULT if you are bigoted against fat people; I am not. The fact that you take that as some kind of bad thing shows your own bigotry, not mine. It is a simple fact that the statistical likelihood of a given online group (except one such as pro-ana) is that it will contain a good number of fat people (just like the public at large.) It is just a body type. Unfortunately people are made to feel like there’s something wrong with them for having the “wrong” body type. But that’s your hangup, not mine; don’t visit it on me.

                • froofrou says:

                  I take it as ‘some kind of bad thing’ because you are assuming that at least half the people here are fat, and there is no way you can possibly know that. Therefore, pointing out something you’re speculating, especially when that speculation is unwarranted, unprovable, and mean, makes your statements in and of themselves bigoted. On top of that, you haven’t managed to have a conversation yet that doesn’t devolve into you calling people names.

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    Nonsense. It’s the same principle that homophobics are usually closeted homosexuals. People who mock fatties behind a screen are at least half the time fat themselves – even if it weren’t a statistical likelihood that plenty of people here or in any particular group are simply going to have that body type. It just stands to reason and common sense.

                    There is nothing “mean” about this fact – so what, they have the body they have, who cares? But it is especially mean for closeted homosexuals to persecute open homosexuals just as it is particularly mean for fat people (who ought to know better) to persecute and mock pictures of fat people. It’s also pretty hypocritical. And they know who they are; and they know that most people know that a substantial number of people who mock fatties online are themselves fat – they just buy into the societal expectations and beauty myths, and hope they don’t get ‘caught’ being fat themselves.

                    • froofrou says:

                      I like how you’ve managed to distill down the hatred into several specific groups: homophobes are certainly gay themselves, fat people always mock other fat people, and the lady who doth protest too much must therefore
                      be a bigot. Try not to assume the motivations of others, and you will learn a lot. Ask, don’t conclude.

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        Yes, I’m sure that if I just asked the fat-bashers “Are you fat?” they would be entirely honest LMAO. Or perhaps this is the ONLY all-thin group online outside pro-Ana sites. Get real. You made a mistake, that’s all there is to it. You thought I was putting the group DOWN by mentioning that there are surely plenty of fat people here, but in fact I was doing no such thing. You are prejudiced against fat, and maybe it hurts to find that out.

                        • froofrou says:

                          We’re not talking about how many fat people post here. We’re talking about how many fat people YOU think post here, which isn’t the same thing. You brought the argument that at least half the people here ‘pointing and laughing’ MUST be fat, so you need to argue that point if you want to prove it. Instead, you try to distract everyone from the statement at hand: that you are a bigot for assuming that the people here are a certain way based on statistics that you have made up in your head ‘based on common sense’ and applied to everyone here. You then went on to add that homophobes MUST BE gay themselves, which only added another level to your bigotry.
                          -
                          Anniee, dear, people here (such as Rho, IowaSucks, and Charro) have been trying to help you out here, and you keep slapping their hands away and saying you can do this on your own. You’ve come across as fussy and confrontational in every conversation you’ve ever had on this site, and you need to calm down. When you get back what you give out, it pisses you off, so you need to learn to take it as well as dish it out if you ever want to be respected and listened to.

              • Lisa Christensen says:

                Anniee451 didn’t call anybody fat, but stated a likely probability
                given current medical definitions of fat and the demographics of
                the population at large. No pun intended. For instance, while I stated
                in one post that I was not fat it would have been more accurate to
                say that I am not morbidly obese. I am most likely considered fat.

          • Anniee451 says:

            As a matter of fact, **I’M** not the one who suggested the picture was a FAIL – I in fact, said it was NOT a fail. So where in the HELL are you getting me as the bigot?

            Aim it at your idiot terrier friend, rhorho. She’s the one who said the picture was a fail. She’s the one who apparently thinks fat people aren’t allowed to eat or have jobs. Duhhhhhh

            • rhorho says:

              Didn’t see your post as I was posting mine. Where does all of
              your rage come from?

              • Anniee451 says:

                I’m sorry, but that’s INFURIATING – **I** came out **against** the fat-bashing, and she calls ME a bigot? What. the. F&^%?

                That wouldn’t make YOU mad? Seriously?

                • rhorho says:

                  I’m not mad at you, and you have called me a bunch of bad
                  names and accused me of a lot of stupid things untruly.

                  How is it any different when it happens to you?

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    I don’t deny that entirely, but I’d be a lot more inclined to not loathe your presence if you didn’t follow behind every person who follows ME around to deliver insults, cheering them on at every turn. And you’ve most certainly made your fair share of false claims against me in the process, which are more than annoying. It does go both ways; I wasn’t really aware of you until you started cheering Fister and Co. so lustily as he follows me about with his d*&^ hanging out.

                    • rhorho says:

                      It’s a simple matter of when I get to PK. I only post
                      every now and then in the day, and post more in
                      the evenings when I’m finished working. Your
                      perception is possibly a little skewed, and you seem
                      to have a selective memory. I have posted under
                      you in the past, as I have tonight.

                      You’re relatively new to PK, and you have started
                      off roughly. Most of us did, too, so no bigs. When
                      you get answered *in kind* it makes you angry,
                      so, assuming you don’t like to be angry, the solution
                      is to lose the *attack* tone.

                      Try posting without name calling, and you’ll see
                      better results: I promise*. “Name calling” includes
                      ad hominem attacks against political figures and
                      people on PK.

                      *Promise does not include Unc, of course–lol!

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        I’m not so sure. My post here consisted of “What does fat-bashing have to do with politics?” followed by the statement that my favorite post here was the one about the pope in hyperdrive, so maybe they aren’t all political. The immediate response was to call me fat (as a pejorative) and stupid.

                        So I don’t really believe that I’m responded to “in kind” as a rule – though of late I’ve rather figured since I’m going to garner such nasty responses anyway, I might as well go in with an eye to having fun and saying what I feel like. Which is what I’ve been doing the past few times I’ve come; and it’s been less stressful than getting frustrated – though admittedly it’s silly to get frustrated in the first place, even if people act like choads.

                        • rhorho says:

                          I’ll have to modify my promise, then. People
                          develop opinions of others here, based on
                          past conflicts, agreements, etc.

                          If you drop the false accusations, name-
                          calling and other forms of ad hominem
                          attacks, you will *begin* to get more level-
                          headed replies.

                          Your initial question brought a response that
                          PK is for politics and *news,* and your
                          reply, iirc, included the word duhhhh, or
                          something similar. (The fact that the photo
                          isn’t news either got dropped along the way
                          somehow.)

                          I’m offering all of this as a suggestion. You
                          seem smarter than most of the righties, but
                          you’re having growing pains right now, I
                          hope.

                        • froofrou says:

                          @Anniee: Curiosity here, where exactly did you get called fat?

                        • rhorho says:

                          I ran across it, further up. Captain Obvious
                          told her to “Keep crying, fattie.”

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Hehe, yeah – a singularly ineffective method of insulting someone who doesn’t find adipose tissue to be a horrific thing, but he tried :)

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Unc: Conservative In Name Only? Directed
                          at Captain Obvious or Anniee? Anniee is
                          Libertarian, so I’m confuzzled. It’s not even
                          certain that I got the acronym right…

                • Steve says:

                  Woah. Nerd-rage! Everyone take cover!

              • IowaSucks says:

                it’s all they have left
                their fear-mongering, race-bating, hate-spewing doesn’t work too well any more, so they just get angry.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  Meanwhile the topic of the thread and half the comments on it are hate-filled and bigoted. Nice going.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    and the other half are hardly Proust…
                    I personally don’t find fat jokes funny… but the
                    success of the Klumps indicates folk do enjoy their fat,
                    Black, and farting funnies…
                    (for the record, I do find fart jokes funny…)

                    • telefil says:

                      It depends on who’s doing the farting and in whose general direction, for me. I don’t find fat jokes particularly funny, either, but I don’t think there needs to be this kind of furor over the pic or the caption, either. Don’t like it, don’t comment, and move on. At least, that’s how I avoid high blood pressure, ha ha.

          • rhorho says:

            I think you’re right. At first I was thinking fail blog, but it’s okay for
            her to eat on the job if her company and the event holders say so.
            It doesn’t look like she’s at the ready for any serious guard duty,
            though. Maybe she’s on break, and there weren’t any seats available.

            • Anniee451 says:

              The poster below had the best idea – a thought bubble saying “I wonder if this bpv makes me look fat?” would have worked better, been less nasty, and been funny.

              • rhorho says:

                That would have worked better than this one, surely. Few
                people seem to understand poster format.

                I’m still scratching my head over what this is even doing here.
                It’s not news or politics.

                *shrugs* Oh, well.

              • IowaSucks says:

                I’m the poster you’re referring to and I don’t think it would have been ‘less nasty’. you’re saying that because it would have given the ‘impression’ that it was the fat woman herself thinking it about herself, when in reality, it’s still the poster who wrote it who said it. no difference.
                .
                i was simply pointing out that it was a misuse of the poster format and was worded awkwardly. fat is still fat. if you see it as a pejorative, you do.
                if you don’t you don’t.
                if you see it as humorous because there’s no way in hell that someone who is that out of shape should be an active duty cop, then you see that as well.

                • rhorho says:

                  I possibly didn’t make it clear earlier, but I agree with you.
                  It’s the poster format and the awkward wording, in addi-
                  tion to the fact that it doesn’t fit the PK category.

                  Well, they can’t all knock ‘em out of the park, right?

                  • IowaSucks says:

                    rhorho, my comments above weren’t directed at you. they were directed at
                    anniee451. no issues here with anyone. we all have opinions (which apparently affects maths too [from another set of posts])

                    • rhorho says:

                      Oh, I know you weren’t replying to me, but I wanted
                      to be clear, because I replied Anniee’s post *about*
                      your post.

                      This is a fun situation. It’s not usual that so many
                      posts are generated by agreement.
                      :mrgreen:

                  • Literal says:

                    I didn’t upload this photo — it was already here, and I capped it.
                    And as far as the poster format goes, what is awkward about it? There’s a colon stop after the first phrase, and then an explanation.
                    So … what is awkward, then? I asked in another post for clarification, and thought I received it, and submitted appropriately.
                    FWIW, I wasn’t planning on submitting this one. It was a private joke between my friend Dena and I, and I didn’t realize it would end up here. I saved it under my user name.
                    It is, in the context it was created, hilarious.

                    • rhorho says:

                      I’m only providing these tips because you asked,
                      so don’t jump me, okay?

                      In the lower sentence, “they” refers back directly to
                      the subject. The sentence below should be about
                      the subject without referring to it directly. Also,
                      the all-caps thing is bad. Also, the sentence should
                      have ended with a question mark.

                      [LINK] Four of the posters here are in bad form,
                      so you aren’t the only one.

                      • rhorho says:

                        Oh, and about the photo. I’m not saying you
                        uploaded it. It’s simply not about either news or
                        politics. I’m not sure why the mods put it here.

                        • Literal says:

                          Well, thanks for that, and now that I know what I am doing wrong I will double my submissions and bring out my “A” game to make sure I am conforming to the format so I can end up making everyone LOL, and then discuss the topic at hand at lenght, on the front page.

                        • IowaSucks says:

                          take what either of us, or anyone else says with a grain of salt
                          you’ve obviously figured out the magic formula. you give ‘the people’ what they want because you keep getting to the front page so assuming that’s the goal, you’re doing something right.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Or someone right….

                      • IowaSucks says:

                        1. I’ll agree completely with the first statement.
                        2. the second statement is fine except PK doesn’t provide a lot of fnit options, and the all caps makes it easier to read – honestly.
                        3. let me change that to that it should be a statement and not a question. maybe something like ‘BPV’ [newline] ‘Yeah, they’re what make you look fat’ or something along those lines.
                        i think the poster format works better for a larger concept, not an individual.
                        .
                        i like this one, i think i voted for it – at least if i say it i would have.
                        like i said below somewhere, i just think it would have worked better as a thought bubble instead of the poster format

                        • IowaSucks says:

                          fnit=font
                          .
                          fnit? i like that word, what can we make it mean?

                        • rhorho says:

                          Okay, except “they’re” refers back to BPV.
                          Otherwise, good idea. I also prefer the
                          declarative over interrogatory for this one,
                          but have seen some philosophical questions
                          used well in the format. I understand the
                          font choices are limited, and the font size
                          can’t be increased, iirc.

                          fnit = snit fit? Great word!

                        • IowaSucks says:

                          true, ok, i suck, IowaSucks, we all suck

                          fnit – snit fit, maybe
                          i was thinking maybe some grotesque bodily function that doesn’t already have a name. maybe it could stand for the economy? that’s kind of grossly oozing right now.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Hey, as long as we’re making things up,
                          there could be a definition #2, yes?

                          How about a fart (which is a truly rude
                          sounding word) coming from a kitten, or one
                          of those sweet little old ladies playing bridge
                          or having tea? …a *cute* fart, if you will.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  I disagree (and I most definitely do not see fat as a pejorative, even though some brainiac is trying to call me “fat” as an insult – uh, yeah, that doesn’t work when someone doesn’t think fat is an insult) because the joke THEN would have been on the fact that most of us buy into the societal expectations of beauty and question themselves and their bodies because of socially accepted norms. We all know how that feels, and it would have been more of an “I know how she feels” kind of laugh as opposed to laughing AT her for being fat.

                  So no, I don’t agree.

                  But don’t worry, next time you have a good idea I won’t bother telling you; the well is obviously poisoned already. Pffft.

                  • IowaSucks says:

                    Ok, cool.
                    On all counts.

                    • Anniee451 says:

                      No problem – by the way, I just noticed the bit about being out of shape – what makes you think she’s out of shape? For all you know she might lift weights, be strong as an ox and very flexible. There’s no way to tell just by the presence of adipose tissue. Really, there isn’t. Hell, I know a 250 (or more – she’s size 3x) lb woman who competes in triathlons and tons more fat people who do yoga and have all sorts of rigorous exercise regimens, hiking, weightlifting, swimming, etc. Not to mention football players, who are strong as hell. I would probably want this cop on my side in a fight as opposed to a tiny little wisp of a woman who had to call in male reinforcement – she doesn’t look like she’d need much help.

                      • IowaSucks says:

                        i did not say she was weak. i said she was out of shape, and she is. It is not healthy, and do not try to pretend that it is. Many other things including being underweight are also not healthy, i know, but we’re talking about
                        her, not you. :-)

                        she is not going to chase anyone. she’s not going to wrestle anyone, she’s going to pull her gun.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Well, you don’t rightly know if she’s out of shape. You can’t tell that just by looking at someone. {link} – and while you’re there, do click on the “But Don’t you realize fat is unhealthy?” post, and after that check out junkfoodscience dot blogspot dot com and read the “obesity paradox” series. I realize you said not to tell you, but I’m telling you anyway. You don’t know her health, her habits, her diet, or whether she’s in shape just by looking at a picture.

                        • Tessie says:

                          I’m guessing that the woman in the picture may be Samoan. For the benefit of those who haven’t been to the left coast, Samoans as a group tend to be very large people, with jet black hair and tawny skin tones. The crew who moved me into the house where I live were Samoan. They averaged about six foot five, and were about as wide as they were tall — I mean these were BIG guys. I don’t think they had zero body fat, but on the other hand, someone who is strong enough to pick up a solid oak dresser in two hands and lift it straight up over his head probably couldn’t fairly be called “out of shape”, either.

                        • froofrou says:

                          My (rather large) brother likes to tell the highschoolers he teaches that he may be fat, but all that fat has some serious muscle underneath in order to carry it around. In other words, don’t mess with me or I will snap you in half and stuff you into your desk.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    Ye Gods… we’re at the far end of the Bell Curve today!
                    An excellent post Ms McPhee

                    • Anniee451 says:

                      If that was to me, thank you.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Indeed it was… for a while you were showing as AnnieMcPhee

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Ah, yes, I ran a fat acceptance blog for some months as AnnieMcPhee, wherein I participated in the fat acceptance movement. We eventually fell out because election fever took everyone over and there were also other irreconcilable differences over such things as gender feminism; however, I give the fat acceptance movement much credit for bringing certain issues to the fore and expounding upon them very well. Junkfoodscience was the scientific and medical heart/backbone of the movement, though, and that blog stands as testament to the bad science and bad policy being enacted against fat people. I’m not trying to diss Literal here, either- it was just a LOL – I just do wish that if we were going to make fat jokes that the joke wouldn’t be “lol your fat” and would actually be a joke. If you check out Melissa McEwan, she and I are of course diametrically opposed politically and feministically, but she posts pictures of her fat belly and proudly so – we need more of that :)

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          What might not come across sometimes is that libertarians (of my sort anyway) are generally socially tolerant. Some people call that “liberal” heh. It’s when fiscal issues come to the fore that the problems happen.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          So, live and let live isn’t Saren gas to you?

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Of course not; live and let live is essential. Social tolerance is the order of the day. It’s economic coercion that sets my teeth on edge, not people living as they see fit socially. Color, size, other social beliefs? Those belond to the people living them. What’s Saren gas? Something bad, I’m assuming lol. I’ll look it up if I have to, but since you mentioned it…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          It’s one of the easier ‘homebrew’ nerve toxins… not nice…
                          I think one of the reasons we’re locking horns is that the bald ‘conservative’ brand involves social conservatism of a particularly ugly, theocratic, sort.
                          I’m a fiscal, small govt., conservative, with a strong anti-monopoly and anti-cartel streak.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Is it related to the sarin gas “made famous” in the Tokyo subway?

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Same stuff… I just have a stupid today… :)

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Ugh sounds horrid. No, live and let live is my motto; hardly any kind of poison gas lol. Social issues – people can live how they want so long as they harm no one else or encroach on others’ property or persons. In an ideal world of course.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Amen.
                          I think we agree…

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Hehe it was bound to happen sooner or later, eh?

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Indeed…
                          I’m getting a bible, a pump action and digging a shelter… :twisted:

                        • I miss all the good threads…

              • Danbala says:

                I didn’t read this poster as very nasty. I chuckled a bit simply over the absurdity in the notion that it’d be protective clothing that caused this woman to look obese.
                But then, I’ve never really understood what could be funny about people’s weight.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  Danbala, you have been decent to me, so don’t take this the wrong way – fat people prefer to be called “fat” rather than have their bodies medicalized into “obesity”. I kind of look at it the same way as I do “midgets” or “dwarves” – they prefer to be called “Little People” and it doesn’t cost me anything to call them that instead of the other terms, so I do. Perhaps we could accord fat people the same respect. They aren’t maladjusted sociopaths who need to be medicalized; they’re just people with different body types. Oops – me too! Hehe. Fortunately I’m inured to fat insults due to the efforts of tireless fat acceptance bloggers and workers. So I figure I can point this out without any ire.

                  • Danbala says:

                    Ah, I had no idea that there were any underlying differences in the words, I was just trying to vary my language a bit – using the same word over and over gets so boring. I’ll keep your point on this in mind in the future.

                    • Anniee451 says:

                      Thanks! I knew you would try to understand.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        One of the problems is the over politicisation of medicine, with media coulture that vaunts being pre-pubescent over health…

                        • Danbala says:

                          This body-bmi obsession is pretty interesting. I know I am probably not leading a healthy life, at all, but right now my body doesn’t put on weight. So, looking at me, I look “normal”. On the inside I bet I am far uglier than a lot of people who get grief because their waist is too many inches, or whatever.
                          So, to my point: Recently the media here has changed the focus from “fitness” to “wellness”. Semantics, but in this case a fairly significant change, I believe. The “diets-to-lose-weight”-articles have changed to “diets-to-feel-well”-articles. I like it, I want to get good ideas on how to (fairly easily) make sure I feel as well as I can.

                      • Danbala says:

                        How does “overweight” work?

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Over WHAT weight? Over WHOSE weight?

                          It kinda works like that.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Aah, of course. I’ve been overweight myself. Over the weight where my knees started to protest and my stamina didn’t keep up with my “luggage”. Still, BMI-wise and all that, i think I was in the “all’s well”-zone. So yeah, thinking about it even from my own perspective, I see what you mean. (I think.)

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          You know your own body best; so must do what you feel is necessary. I do hope you won’t undertake drastic measures such as starvation (most diets) or stomach amputation to meet your goals, though. There are often many other methods to feeling better without such destructive means.

                        • Danbala says:

                          Nah, I (my mother has often mused on why this came to be) have a healthy relationship with food. It’s just nicotine, caffeine and alcohol that I’m too fond of… ;) ) I didn’t go back to my “feel-good weight” through dieting, I got a divorce instead. ;p

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          LOL – I can’t beat that one :D (Well, unless I talk about absinthe and I ain’t up to that one right now.)

                        • @ Danbala: Yeah, a divorce can be a great way to get rid of about 185 punds of ugly fat with the stroke of a pen! LOL. Been there.

                        • Danbala says:

                          @dissimilitude:
                          Hah, I didn’t even think about that angle to it. :) My body returned to the shape it “should” have when my life got the shape it should have, though.

                        • Danbala says:

                          @Anniee451:
                          Absinthe is really great. I’m a sucker for the aniseed taste (and licorice and salmiak and stuff like that), so me + a bottle of absinthe = Certain Disaster(tm).
                          Thankfully my (current) life partner is as devoted to the stuff as I am, so I never get too drink too much. He takes half all the time. The bastard. ;p

                  • MLD says:

                    i am fat but have no problem with being called obese, personally. While I am clinically diagnosable as obese. When I’m not in the boundaries of that, then just fat works.

  28. Anniee451 says:

    It’s not a fail either.

  29. BAW says:

    The best weight-loss exercise in the world?

    A vigorous push away from the table.

    • Anniee451 says:

      Except study after study shows that fat people eat basically the same as anyone else – a few have eating disorders and overeat compulsively but the majority eat normally, like everyone else. There is no known way to make a thin person permanently fat (even with massive intake) and there’s no known way to make a fat person permanently thin. These are just body types; not a cause for mockery. Link.

      • pcflamingo says:

        Well, THAT’s a depressing article. Think I’ll go have some pie.

      • BAW says:

        I know from personal experience that this is not true.

        • Carme says:

          I agree. It’s not body types. It’s will power and metabolism. I’m a bit chubby myself, so I know how hard it is to lose the weight, considering I should be weighing in at 175 and I pull up to a hard 250. So, life is just that: life. If you can’t laugh at yourself, laugh at someone else…

          • Anniee451 says:

            Well the science is not coming back in your favor there, sorry. As to metabolism; there is the principle of diminishing returns – a person who cuts down to 1200 to lose X pounds then has to cut down further and further to keep losing and maintain – this is just medical science. Even with gastric bypass surgery where you literally eat starvation level calories (500 or so a day if you’re lucky) the average person either only loses about half the extra weight or they regain within a few years without upping caloric intake (diminishing returns again.) There’s a reason that of people who lose a significant amount of weight (75 lbs or more) 98% of them regain it at or before the 5 year mark. 98% – random chance ought to account for better success rates than that; not to mention that you can’t possibly claim that ALL of them are just unmotivated, undisciplined pigs. Most people want to lose weight very badly due to societal pressures and hatred. Link to a medical blog that has a TON of information.

            Also, Rethinking Thin by Gina Kolata or The Obesity Myth by Paul Campos are excellent places to start. It might be time to stop punishing yourself for an unreachable goal and start enjoying life and accepting yourself. Just a suggestion.

            And yes, people need to be able to laugh at themselves.

            • Carme says:

              It’s nothing about science. I can run all I want, it doesn’t mean I’m going to lose weight; and if I do, I’m not saying it’s going to magically stay off. Yes, I would love to lose a few pounds, but, my knees deserve better than the punishment I’m putting them through. As for being with a skinny person, I’m sorry, but if I’m going to be with a guy, he has to be a teddy bear. I’d be afraid if I was with a skinny guy…. I might break him.

              • Anniee451 says:

                LOL – no one says you should be with a skinny guy – and you’re right, you can run all you want but there’s no guarantee of keeping weight off (the statistics are insanely against it happening long-term, much less permanently – same as trying to make thin people fat.)

                Pcflamingo – ENJOY your pie and don’t let the article depress you; let it set you free from unreasonable expectations and constraints! Be as healthy as you can at whatever size you’re at, and don’t buy into the hype, that’s the thing. Most definitely don’t buy into the self-loathing. That never helped anyone. And don’t punish yourself with useless starvation (there isn’t a diet in existence that doesn’t meet the qualifications of *starvation* according to the starvation experiments conducted by Keyes. Don’t forget diminishing returns. Stay healthy where you are, GET healthy where you are, if you can. NOT that ill health is cause for discrimination against you.) Mental health DOES count in “health”, too, don’t forget that. Try to enjoy your life and even your food – fat people have to eat too, and there’s no reason they shouldn’t enjoy it.

                Hugs.

                • viking gal says:

                  @ Carme
                  It is more than will power. I was sick for several years with gallbladder disease. And because I wasn’t absorbing the needed fat-based vitamins and such, my body was malnourished (frequently anemic), and my appetite was increased (for foods with lots of healthy fat), and I gained weight. I tend towards athletic in build, outside of those few years. After the surgery, I quickly ‘right-sized’ in both appetite and in BMI/form.
                  And having a friend who is fat from both emotional and genetic causes, I have observed that when her emotional status is well, she eats normally–but she only becomes LESS fat, not non-fat. Biology is more powerful than you think!

      • MLD says:

        Genes may play a role. I take big issue with the weight loss study in the beginning. There is a reason the subjects bodies reacted as though they were starving. THEY WERE. Six hundred calories a DAY is far from adequate. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you CUT something like 300 calories a day from your average daily intake. Not go down TO six hundred a day. At that level, no, you WONT keep it off.

        You show me results from a study where a person lost 1-1.5 pounds a week, by cutting 300-350 calories a day, eating sensibly, and regained it, and I’ll buy the crap that fat people will always be fat.

  30. IowaSucks says:

    I think it would have worked better as a thought bubble, as in:
    “I wonder if this bullet proof vest makes me look fat…”

    but apparently this person knows something about the brain of those who vote, ’cause he/she seems to get an awful lot of captions posted here.

    Makes one wonder if it’s only Iowa that sucks, hmmm…

  31. blah says:

    i don’t even think she need kevlar! she got all that fat…they’d have to shoot her, then shoot her again and again in the same spot, so the bullet would hav to hit another bullet to do any damage! :D lolz…sorry if i offended anyone…

  32. obligated says:

    “Dear god, if you can’t make me skinny, please make EVERYONE fat.”
    -from a nice kittih somewhere.

  33. BAW says:

    calories in>calories out=fat

    Hence, the best way to loose weight is to either take in fewer calories, or find ways to expend more calories.

    Put her on bicycle patrol and see what that does for her.

  34. Literal says:

    For the love of god, people, knock it off! This is a LOL, and was only meant as such.
    This was a direct quote from my very chubby cop friend Dena, with whom I work out, regarding her body armor.
    We were laughing about how it makes her look fat, and I told her that her fat makes her look fat, and my fat makes me look fatter.
    Chill, you guys. It’s not a societal statement, it’s my fat friend and I laughing at ourselves as we try to get back into the shape we used to enjoy.
    And yes, it is a huge problem for her to be overweight as a cop. We had kids, and had careers, and it got in the way of our college figures. We’re working on it, but we can totally make fun of ourselves.
    Take a lesson. Sheesh.

    • meglet says:

      I think it’s still kinda mean. All I would say is sometimes people who are bigger do tend to laugh at themselves, but it’s a defence mechanism, not any real enjoyment of joking about their size.
      And yes, before you say it I am a bigger girl, not huge but I’ve always been that way no matter how fit I am, even when playing craploads of sport. I’ll laugh if someone makes a crack about being fat including me in it, but I don’t usually find it funny.
      There are funnier people out there to laugh at than the tubby ones -it’s not really clever, sorry.

      • meglet says:

        I would also add that i don’t think people would be so mean if it wasn’t a chick, but I think I’m going to get yelled at for saying that. s’true though

      • Literal says:

        If you can’t laugh at yourself, RUN, don’t walk, and get therapy now.
        Laughing at youself and your foilbes, with family and friends, is the key to a long and happy life.

        • meglet says:

          I did have a reply to this but i think it got swallowed. All i was saying is there’s much more to it than you’re allowing for.
          And I’m not big for lack of exercise, despite what you might assume.

          Laughing at yourself is one thing, but I’m much happier to laugh at myself on a witty joke (I’m sorry but the caption didn’t really take much thought) rather than a simple haha you’re fat.

          • Literal says:

            Of course it didn’t take much thought, and I never said it was witty — I said it was a direct quote from a cop friend.
            Read, and laugh at youself. You’ll be much happier.

            • meglet says:

              I saw the quote, I was saying that maybe you were misreading the reaction.
              I don’t think we’ll be able to agree on this..
              And stop telling me to be happy, just because I don’t like people laughing at other fat people doesn’t mean you know anything about me.
              honestly i’m kinda resigned to my size. I just need to fix my back which is screwed from playing so much hockey.
              The same point I keep making is that I’m happy to laugh at myself.
              I Laugh at FUNNY THINGS.

              • Anniee451 says:

                I do hope you can become more than resigned – there is such a thing as “Health at Every Size” that focuses on eating as healthily as possible (so as to avoid deficiencies, for one thing), exercising regularly in a pleasant and productive manner, the exercise that fits in best with your lifestyle and abilities, and accepting yourself just as you are, without feeling bad about it. Your body type is what it is; there’s nothing to be ashamed of for it.

                But I agree, I laugh at funny things, even if I’m the target :) I LOVE good jokes, believe me. The pope going into hyperdrive? Had my sides freaking splitting on this site. So did a lot of things. (Including left and right-side humor.) Good luck with your back, by the way. If you don’t mind me making a recommendation, gentle and effective stretching to give the spine flexibility is often the key – as well as stretching to elongate the back thigh and calf muscles, which pull on and compress the lumbar region, causing pain.

                Good luck.

                • meglet says:

                  Ah Anniee, you’re good. thanks for the advice.
                  You are right about being healthy – Also, BMI isn’t always an accurate indicator…
                  Lumbar strength is where I’m going for, so it stops CLICKING!
                  Thanks for being thoughtful

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    Do check out the BMI project I link to (behind my name on this post.) While I had a rough time at times getting along with the leftists in the fat acceptance movement, they were right more often than not when it came to this topic. :)

                    Also, junkfoodscience formed the scientific/medical backbone of the fat acceptance movement, and it’s shocking the amount of information available there. I went through a crippling and life-threatening illness (undiagnosed for many years) but in seeking help I did come across a lot of information about curing back pain – the main thing is that your spine is supposed to be flexible, and those back leg muscles/tendons can compress the lumbar region and also cause pain. So I did learn that pleasant stretching (it shouldn’t hurt) can work absolute wonders for such pain and I do wish you the best with that.)

                    The link on this post leads directly to the BMI project, and it’s a real eye-opener!!! These aren’t unhealthy, out of shape people – and it’s as I say, just basically an eye-opener all around. Should you find yourself lost in self-loathing or not being able to deal with your own body type, there really IS help all over the net available for you from people who either are fat or who are in the business of evaluating the medical evidence about it. You need not feel bad or apologize for your body type – you are who you are and there’s nothing wrong with that :) I’m beyond glad if I could encourage you a little bit on these issues.

                    • meglet says:

                      really cool site – some very interesting pics there…
                      I must say I admire your dedication to this cause! you’re very passionate :)
                      I guess with my own body what I mean is I know where I should be to be healthy, I’m not there right now, but i’ll never be small.
                      I wouldn’t want to be anyway :)

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        Well, you may need to adjust your idea of what is healthy for you based on your age – it’s a pretty well established fact that we put on weight until our 60s, and then when we start shrinking, it’s a sign the end is coming. (I know that from working in nursing homes if it wasn’t common sense anyway.) Perhaps your health can be good at a larger size right now and for the next some-odd years, and shrink when your time comes. I don’t know; you know your body best.

                        Glad you enjoyed the BMI project; I thought it was pretty darn cool myself.

                        If you want a tad more encouragement, check out the link I have up now. It’s a PSA for your body :) Nice stuff. And also, thank you for the kind words; I DO appreciate them.

        • Steve says:

          I dunno…I think slipping on banana peels is pretty darn funny.
          -
          O’doyle rules!

  35. Lisa Christensen says:

    You all can justify it every which way you can think of, but making fun of someone because they are fat is mean.

    • IowaSucks says:

      Why?

      • meglet says:

        it’s unnecessary and pretty juvenile. Do you really value the “skinny” characteristic of someone that much?

        • Literal says:

          It’s called “the human condition.”
          You can laugh about it, or you can cry about it.
          Your choice.
          This isn’t about skinny. Heh.

        • IowaSucks says:

          i addressed my question to Lisa Christensen, because i don’t think she would have been able to articulate an answer. it’s easy to say something is mean without being able to justify it.
          .
          why do you ask me if i value skinny? even if my simple ‘why’ did mean i was ‘anti fat people’, it doesn’t mean i’m -pro skinny people’.
          please find any post of mine up here where i picked on the woman in the picture or called her names or anything else that might lead you to the conclusion that i was being mean to her.

          • meglet says:

            k fair enough, pardon my assumption. What I mean is that it’s as mean as laughing at anything because it’s different.
            I think if she saw this herself she’d be horrified.
            It is my opinion that making someone feel that way about themselves is mean and unnecessary. I’d say she feels bad enough about being overweight without people pointing it out to her and giggling.

            • IowaSucks says:

              NP
              she might be horrified and she might not be. she might not have any personal issues with being as large as she is. she knows she’s fat. she might prefer it, some people do.
              anyway, i agree with what you’re saying, i just didn’t think that the poster Lisa Christensen would have been able to justify her statement.
              lucky for her you came along :-)

              • meglet says:

                danke, and I agree to some extent I’m assuming she’d be unhappy about her weight, but even if she wasn’t, perhaps having people laugh at you is enough to give anyone image insecurity, you know?
                bah, i hope she doesn’t see it anyway. hmm.
                And I am throwing criticism as someone who hasn’t made a lol…

                • Tesh says:

                  Cause it’s funny to make fun of fatties. I should know, I’m 5’11″ and 380 pounds. Rotund defines me fairly well, but people usually go for Fat @$$hole. And I am. I make fun of fat people, myself included, because it is funny as all hell. When I breath, I jiggle all over, and when I think, I sweat. If you don’t think that’s some funny sh!t, you need to get your funny-bone looked at. It’s not like poking fun at fat people means you hate them. It’s all a matter of perspective. If one say, I suddenly found a LOL of myself here, going to town on some chocolate cake, I would strive to be the first poster, call myself a fatty, and invite everyone to have a laugh with me, at me.

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    Nothing wrong with fat jokes or gay jokes or race jokes, so long as they’re funny. “She’s fat! He’s fat!” doesn’t count as a joke; when the joke is presupposed by the mere existence of fat.

                    If you want to make a joke, make one – if it’s good, people will laugh. Though I do know some people who are so mortified by their own fat that they get upset at the mere mention, much less jokes about it; so not everyone finds it funny. But that’s sad, and if they could get past the cultural hatred surrounding their bodies, perhaps they could laugh more easily. It is rough when people go so far as wanting you to have your stomach amputated in order to conform to a false idea of what is and isn’t an acceptable body.

                    • froofrou says:

                      The line on ‘funny’ is different with different people. I’ve heard a room go down with laughter over a joke that I knew was bigoted. It depends on your audience, life experience, and a bunch of other things as to what is funny. I think that saying a joke is funny if people laugh is a really narrow way to look at it, and can get you beaten to a bloody pulp if you use that theory in the wrong neighborhood.

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        A joke can be bigoted and funny. Hell, Redd Foxx was one of the funniest joke-tellers I’ve ever known and a lot of it was bigoted and nasty and so forth. That’s actually the point I was making – a lot can be forgiven IF the joke is actually clever and funny. But “lol your fat” is no more a joke than “lolyour black”, you know? It has to have a bit more thought.

                        This poster wasn’t the perfect example because there was at least the bit about bullet proof vests; but it could have been more meaningful and funnier if it had been a thought bubble and a question, as another poster pointed out.

                      • Danbala says:

                        “I think that saying a joke is funny if people laugh is a really narrow way to look at it”
                        Yes, but still it’s how it is. There is no objective way to measure “funny”. A horribly racist joke against jews will be funny to the people at a neo-nazi meeting. Abstruse Goose is hilarious if you’re nerd-inclined. All one can say about a joke is “I can not find it funny, in any way”. That is not the same thing as it not being funny. (Alas.)

          • Lisa Christensen says:

            Well ok, IowaSucks. Perhaps I misspoke. What I meant to say is that picking on one particular fat person, like the one individual in the picture, is mean spirited. Something that bullies, the immature or perhaps just someone who is insensitive or thoughtless would do. Thanks for giving me this opportunity to clarify; very thoughtful of you.

    • MLD says:

      I make fun of many things, including an incredibly obese person in uniform nomming on a turkey leg. And before you ask, I’m fat myself. Actually, I’m clinically obese. And I still find this humorous.

  36. Mao says:

    This isn’t really funny at all. :\

    Sorry, I guess the mildly overweight don’t think pointing-at-fat-people-for-fun jokes are raucously hilarious like the folks who run Failblog do.

    It’s also grammatically incorrect.

    How did this get through?

  37. Steve says:

    Brit? No, we told the British to GTFO back in 1776, as far as I’m concerned you can feel free to do the same.
    -
    That said, I can think of worse things to be than British. Moronic for example.

    • Maybe it’s an acronym. BRIT…hmm. Big Repellant Internet Trolls? No, must be something else. Maybe it’s got nothing to do with PK and she’s having problems with her Brita water filter? ;-)

    • Uncle Fester says:

      If we’d wanted to keep the colony, we’d have used someone other than the Earl of Sandwich, who we knew was a cretin…

      • Though I can’t say the king at the time was any kind of genius either…

        • slan agat says:

          Is this a polite, diplomatic way of saying he was a syphilitic git? Not that Prinnie was any giant of letters either.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          The king at that time wasn’t really much more than a puppet… by 1776 we’d got them to the point that they really didn’t make policy decisions… He was a handy hate figure for the Colonists, but you’d do better to blame the Government rather than the King… TBH, I’d have made MPs of the Revolutionary council…

  38. Steve says:

    She’s a brick….house! She’s mighty, mighty!

  39. Mr.Wholesome says:

    I agree. And fat jokes are so easy and none original. And, in this case, funny.

  40. emily says:

    You must admit, that the existence of an obese police officer destroys the entire nature of a police officer’s job.

    Can she properly fulfill her job requirements?
    I doubt it.
    But I am sure, those of your nature, would scream discrimination if there was a fitness requirement for the job.

    • Wha says:

      I dunno. I think she could beat an ass with the best of ‘em. Catching ‘em would be hard for her, but that’s a whole lotta woman armed with a gun, a taser and probably a baton too.

    • Danbala says:

      “the existence of an obese police officer destroys the entire nature of a police officer’s job”
      What? What does this mean? I am quite willing to accept that I am daft for not understanding, but … I just don’t. Can you explain this in another fashion?

  41. jinny_1909 says:

    I think most people just think too much, which totally ruins the moment ^.^

  42. ubr says:

    no one here has a sense of humor.
    .
    we all make fun of people. whether or not we admit to ourselves and others is a personal thing.
    .
    so, stop overloading the pk servers with your bs.

  43. MLD says:

    FWIW, Im a fatass and I LOLd at this. Get over yourself.

    • Danbala says:

      While I do not support “……”‘s post, I still must say (because I’m compulsive like dat) that “I manage to do X, so you should to” is just not a very good argument. :p

      • Uncle Fester says:

        The the basis of Evangelical religion… “I manage to believe the most
        improbable and down right contradictory things, and so should you’
        Actually, that sounds like most political people’s arguments too.

        • Danbala says:

          Yeah, I think it’s common in all walks of life. Actually I think an even more problematic issue might be its uglier sibling “I don’t like this or think like this, so people who do, must be sick and wrong”.

  44. Aedriel says:

    Yeah, I see where she says that, but I can’t find specific laws or regulations, just that “growth hormone use is illegal.” Maybe it’s something that stimulates growth hormone secretion. *shrugs* I eat only the expensive stuff that specifies “no hormones or steroids” et cetera. Now I’m wondering how bad the steak I eat is…

  45. Uncle Fester says:

    So they can inject them with the wringings
    of somethings endocrine system… That’s
    ok then…

  46. rhorho says:

    @LOL: Evidently you weren’t around at the time.
    It would take all day to link all of the raging,
    meltdowns, dramatics and sockings. I wouldn’t
    have drawn fire from her if I hadn’t tried to be
    nice to her in the first place, so lesson learned.
    Don’t worry about getting on my bad side. :D

    @Danbala: Thanks! I didn’t catch LOL’s post
    until just now.

  47. Lisa Christensen says:

    If anybody cares and would like to do the same, I wrote a note to the web site today at ihasahotdog+contactus@gmail.com Here it is…

    Hi there.

    I find the caption on Bullet Proof Vests http://punditkitchen.com/page/6/ is offensive. No I’m not fat, black, a police officer, nor do I eat meat.

    It’s not OK to make fun of people just because they are fat. Or just because they are fat and eating. Or even fat, eating and in uniform.

    Also, and just as important, there is nothing political or newsworthy about it. What is it doing here?

    I recommend this web site to people all the time (I work in a library)but since I have seen this and all the comments written I have stopped. And I go to the lolcats site less often. It has made it seem ugly to me.

    I really hope you will consider deleting this item. Thanks.

    Lisa Christensen

  48. HolyHell says:

    wow, the most comment’s i’ve ever seen on a picture about….a fat cop eating a turkey leg……
    and you start talking about babies..?
    —that takes skill.


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