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When the leader or a formerly Communist country tells the leader of a formerly Capitalist country that communism doesn’t work.
(Vladimir Putin)
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This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, can anybody elaborate?
Best to ignore it. It’s a fail.
What they’re desperately trying to get across is that the U.S. is now a communist country.
Okay. Thanks.
Is the US planning to become a communist country? Or is this a slam at the nwe president?
I believe it’s a slam at the new Prez.
A terrible one at that.
Although I sympathize with Obama haters, as he doesn’t make it quite as easy for them to bash him as Bush made it for us. If he did, they would come up with better material than the same tired old socialist/communist/foreign born crap we had to put up with during the election.
You forgot muslim too. He’s muslim yanno.
*pshhh*
Right.
You spelled muslin wrong.
I was really hoping we could elect a satinist as our president. Maybe next time.
That twill be nice.
Would a satinist find it any easier to velvet his cabinet nominees?
Sure, they’d slide right in, no friction.
But then the Chinese really will own us. Um, wait…
I’m ok with percale personally.
I would prefer a satirist.
Didn’t we just have eight years of that?
Or was that a sadist?
I always get those two mixed up.
That would be sadist. A satirist would have only harmed our reputations.
no, its Muslim
It’s a joke.. there was a LOL awhile back that referred to Obama as a Muslin.
I got it. lol… George didn’t. Hmmmm… NOT irony.
You mean he’s NOT a Muslin?
He’s a Muslin/Polyester blend.
I seem to remember something in Leviticus about that…
Leviticus 19:19 (King James Version)
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19Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
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Is that proof that he’s not a Chrsitian?
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According to this site [link]:
“Wearing such materials is not a sin in itself. Rather, God does not want manufacturers producing shoddy materials in order to take advantage of their customers.”
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He also basically decides that what’s really forbidden is to combine synthetics which didn’t exist at the time, with natural fibers, but the mixing of natural fibers is somehow ok.
You know, socialist policies are not a bugaboo, or a “slam” or “tired old crap” – how is it that you don’t know that millions upon millions of people, including those that have lived in various socialist regimes, are not saying those things as some stupid, meaningless insult? How is it that you genuinely don’t realize that there are millions of people who *mean* it and know what they’re talking about when they say it? It’s really not rocket science.
But then, it’s double plus unspeak at this point, I guess – because Obama and co STILL claim not to believe in big government lol. Which is quite demonstrably nonsense already, or did you not notice the doubling of the debt (in less than a month! Truly historic!) with trillions more being ramrodded through as we speak?
When you only read slanted “news,” your perception gets
warped. You’re living proof, Anniee. If you venture out into
the light of day, you may want to check out what’s actually
happening here: The country is in recession, Dear.
“…with trillions more being ramrodded through as we speak”
God, but you’re an imbecile! Go ahead: Whine about how no
one but you sees what’s “really” going on here…
…then read some more sh!t from the World Net Daily…in your
bomb shelter, with a semi-automatic weapon, wearing a foil
hat and night vision goggles.
when conservatives bash liberals, its a desperate hate crime filled with rediculous claims
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When Liberals bash conservatives, its an intellectual, just way of dealing with the other side
Its pathetic. The problem with liberals is over half of them are silly little pseudo-intellectuals who think anyone who disagrees with them is some stupid uneducated hick.
Rhohor when the gov owns the banks, the auto industry, the housing market, and is pumping trillions of dollars into the economy THATS socialism “dear” And dont say just baling them out doesn’t count as socialism, if we truly worked the way a capitalist system is supposed to work, we’d let them fail
Don’t be afraid of the prospect that a rapid change in the way America works could ACTUALLY HAPPEN you are blind to the fact that that has happened countless times before in history and you are one of the types of people who let it happen.
Bailout /= Socialism
We the People do not own the banks, the auto industry
or the housing market. QED
You might be one of the most thick headed idiots I have ever run across on the net.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are responsible for over 25% of all homes in the country. The Government now owns it instead of just funding it (as if a mix of socialist and capitalist concepts could ever work…especially in the banking industry)
The Governement already owns over 25% of Citibank, arguably still one of the largest banks in the nation
That’s over 2 billion dollars worth of the economy owned by the Government. If it isn’t socialism, then its nationalism, which it certainly isn’t.
Socialism is NOT a myth, it exists, and it exists live and well here in the US. Just exactly what do you call it if not what it is?
A rose by any other same would still be a stupid, braindead, listless, bumper sticker politico.
Stick that up your crack pipe and smoke it, “dear”.
I’m sorry, but a government owning non controlling stake in a business does not mean socialism. More like fascism: an ultra-nationalist collusion between government and business. I wish it was socialism, but it isn’t. The regular workers in those companies have no say in how they are run. Therefore, it isn’t even close to socialism. But keep waving that big scary booga booga around if it makes you happy.
The things that each party says are flawed. Each side of the argument argues a philosophy, a perfect theory. This is reality people. Some things about each party are good, some things are bad.
Try to stop bickering about dogma, roll up your sleeves, and get dirty to help everyone out. Plus, talking and arguing about what is happening doesn’t ever change anything. Do something if you don’t like it. Else, shut up, move out of the way, and let people who are willing to work do so.
Annie, I guess my comment went way over your head. My point was exactly that, socialist shouldn’t be used as an ambiguous one word insult.
Rhorho I believe I’ve made it a very distinct point that I spend more time among the leftist sources than the conservative ones. Unfortunately it’s almost impossible to find much else but those two. So really, your comment there made no sense.
Steve, for any of the people I know who use the term, it’s far from the lobbing of a brevity bomb. There is a reason the term is used.
“I’m sorry, but a government owning non controlling stake in a business does not mean socialism.”
Oh my. Yes, some people try to make the distinction these days between right-wing totalitarianism and left-wing totalitarianism; economically, that’s sh&t, and to the liberty of the people living under them it’s sh*t. Hitler’s party were called the National Socialists because they knew what the economic system was; it wasn’t some term they used with irony. Granted they went at it in a new way, but in the end the results are the same – shortages, hunger, starvation, death camps, gulags, SS, KGB, secret knocks on the door.
And yes, we already do have socialism here, just as Battle Cry said. We have for a long time now. It wasn’t going anywhere anyway, but now we’re just headed full-bore on a rocket car to socialize the rest of it. Not surprising – as Obama said in his book, in order not to be thought of as a sell-out, he sought out the Marxist professors – between Alinsky and those professors, I believe he learned really well. It’s rather fascinating – or would be if it weren’t going to be so horribly disastrous.
It’s not Socialism, it’s corporatism.
Anti-Obama lol? Wow…that fast?
He certainly worked fast. One month, double your debt? That’s quick.
Anyway, the anti-Bush hatred started way before inauguration – Chimpy, Shrub, McChimp, Commander in Thief, President Select, etc. By inauguration day they were pelting him with tomatoes. Literally. It would be pretty odd if *no one* disliked Obama, wouldn’t it?
Can we have a news story link to that please… there’s a lot of blogsphere noise, but they’re mostly quoting each other…
[LINK] The bottles, tomatoes and egg (singular) were
handled by the 7000 police on hand, in advance of the
motorcade, so no one actually hit (or “pelted”) GWB with
a tomato.
Again, Anniee = fact fail.
Oh, so if I lob dozens of tomatoes and BOTTLES at Obama, it’s ok so long as he doesn’t get hit? Wtf?
Oh – link. Now the next time someone tries to whine that it’s SO SOON for Obama lols – let’s get fecking real, shall we? The man made history (not the kind you think, apparently) in his first month, passing the most enormous bills that have ever existed without giving anyone time to read them. It would be extremely strange if no one had a problem with this.
And yes, what they did to Bush was far worse. You compare that crowd with the adoring crowd on the White House Lawn this last time around and tell me “Well, not until they earn it, you know.” That’s simp0ly bullspit. And that video shows this with absolute clarity.
The video voice-over says that Bush’s limo was hit with eggs, but there’s no corresponding footage. My source describes the scene differently. The dramatic tone of the voice-over and the creative editing are not convincing to me. Smells like rotten eggs, in fact.
As to the rest, the difference in Obama’s landslide win and Bush’s controversial win would largely account for the difference in hostility levels. Considering the non-violent nature of the crowd on Bush’s departure, I would venture to guess that they didn’t want to delay the exit. The boy’s not known for planning those very well…
Just want to clarify on this apparent “landslide” win that Obama had.
I’m not sure you’re familiar with the electoral system, but it’s pretty
basic. Each state has it’s own set of electoral votes that are based
upon population. If you win the state, you win all the electoral votes
of that state. It was actually a really close election because, believe
it or not… 43 out of every 100 people voted for McCain.
So in actuality, it was not a landslide win for Obama. The electoral
system just appears that way.
I think you need to learn about communism.
It’s a slam – and a bad one. If you want to see a lot more bad ones, go look at the poster’s page. It’s filled with anti-obama crap.
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I seriously doubt this guy even knows what communism or socialism really are. It’s just that the right-wing has nothing of substance to talk about any more, all they can do is throw insults and try to instill fear.
Because the left-wing has never done that. It’s not like they constantly sling shit about the right wing only going to war for oil instead of genuinely trying to save suffering nations with evil dictators that seek to kill any who disagree with them.
Nah, it’s only the right-wing that drives fear against their opponents.
I’m sorry. In fact, I apologize for the entire left wing, because you know we’re all just brainwashed into believing the exact same thing, and so I can speak for allof us. We’re sorry. We won’t do it again.
Left wing? I thought you were a social anarchist….you have no wing, thus nothing to apologize for. I, however, have to apologize for my wing all the time.
“genuinely trying to save suffering nations with evil dictators”
So if that was the reason, why did Bush say it was for WMD? If the invasion of iraq really HAD been for some noble “save the Iraqis” cause, don’t you think he would have shouted that from the rooftops, rather than lie about WMD?
Proof the whole after-the-fact claim of “Save A Suffering Nation!” is total BS.
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Oh, I’m sorry. I saw something about Bush wanting to help out suffering nations and I thought maybe he finally got around to recognizing Darfur, even if he’s no longer POTUS, but no, my mistake.
Oh, America’s out to save the innocents, huh? Why didn’t we do that when Bush the Elder sent our troops in the first time? Nah, he pulled them out, left the oil wells burning, and Saddam to gas the Kurds to his heart’s content. Yes, our motives are sooo pure.
They did.
Clearly, some people have deleted that from their memories because their brains aren’t complex enough to hold that much information.
Probably why they keep repeating History’s Greatest Blunders, while the other guys set out to make entirely new ones.
They did what?
Save innocent iraqi people. Which in the conservative rewrite of history is totally why we went there in the first place. That’s also why we got involved in Darfur and… ummm, wait a minute.
Reminds me of that promise that the oil sales from Iragi oil was going to easily pay for the rebuilding of Iraq after we invaded and got rid of Saddam Hussein. Uh huh. Just like the Iraqis would be welcoming our troops with hugs and flowers?
Oh, and does anyone remember the one time Bush said that he wanted to go into Iraq because Hussein ‘Tried to kill my father’? Short memory spans in the US public. Sad.
Did Bush say it in a Spanish accent? Did it go, “Hello, my name is George Bush, you (tried to) kill my father, prepare to die”? If it did I may have to rethink my stand on the war in Iraq.
Princess Bride WIN!!
“Short memory spans in the US public.”
True – short and often selective. No doubt.
Do you happen to have any of the context for that thing about oil sales from Iraq oil? I know they just had their elections and am not sure what their economic plans are for their resources or individuals; it will be very interesting to see what they actually do. I know that in Afghanistan some of the women have actually taken their Burkas and re-sewn them into miniature Burkas that go over wine bottles which are then sold at a big profit (one real burka can make 100 small ones). They have also been coming out with some spectacular needlework OTHER than that, to follow up with it, and I can’t recall at the moment how many hundreds of women are busily engaging in enterprise for profit now. It takes time, that’s for sure, when you start with pretty much nothing. It’s an encouraging sign though (not sure what will become of it if we step up our military efforts there without reason.) What Iraq could accomplish with all their resources is enormous; but of course they have had oppressive regimes that don’t let the common people flourish – just a select few. Unfortunately it seems to be the trend in that region. As well as other regions. We’ll see.
Phase 1: Collect Burkas.
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!
The date for the ‘oil profits for rebuilding’ plan was 2003, as part of the planning process in the run-up to the war. It got a lot of press at the time, because the Dept of Defense had planned to control the moneys which were supposed to flow in. I’ve linked an article, but had remembered it from listening to the radio and television news at the time. And at the time, I had thought it overly optimistic: no plan for battle survives the first contact with the enemy. An old truism proven yet again in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Thanks – I was very very ill for a few years there missed a lot of current events (gotta be selective when you’re dying
) But it would be really interesting to read the context; and it will be very interesting to see what they DO do with their upcoming oil profits now that they’ve had elections and there is little conflict in the area. I wouldn’t put it past Bush to think that WE were going to interfere and MAKE them do this and that with the oil, though, as opposed to helping them set up a more free enterprise system where people could flourish.
Yeah, I keep telling my students: health first, then studies & family. THEN partying, etc. Glad you got through it.
I agree with you on Bush, et. al. about their attitudes towards others–but do have to wonder. Anyone with experience knows darned well that you can’t make another person over the age of 11 do anything, without a very large gun to their head! So, what planet were they living on?
IIRC, the oil production was supposed to off-
set our costs for the war. After we weren’t
greeted as liberators, the accusations began
becoming widespread that we had invaded
to take over production there. Shortly
thereafter, mentions of offsetting the
tremendous cost of the war with Iraqi oil
dwindled to a halt.
In answer to your “what planet” question,
they probably weren’t ever planning to use
Iraqi oil profits, but the idea made the war
easier to sell to the American people, imo.
Lola, Saddam had a month warning by the UN before the inspectors went in. Let me ask you, if the FBI told you a month in advance that they were going to raid your house, would you just have the dope laying around when they got there? You know thats bullshit. Saddam had plenty of time and places to hide his WMD’s , could have shipped them to Syria, Iran, or hide them in the expansive Iraqi desert…..oh and btw, the UN inspectors DID find bluprints and plans for deadly weapons and even found construction facilities. And i ask you, what did Saddam use to kill over a Million of his own people in the 80′s? The prospect of you saying GWB was lying about WMD’s is complete bullshit. the evidence the UN found supports WMD theory in almost every way without finding the physical weapons
Well Done. WIN on all levels. I wondered when someone would mention that. Remember just because you can’t find something doesn’t mean it’s not there. (How many times has someone tried finding their car keys
) The WMDs are still there but either sold back to Russia and France (who were the main ones who gave Iraq the WMDs in the first place) hence their objection to the war, as they would have been found guilty of selling WMDs to a country that wasn’t exactly stable (and to a Leader who was even less stable 
) or sold or given to other countries (Iraw has or rather had a habit of this since they moved their Planes to Iran during the First Gulf War when they realised that their air force was being crushed by the allies with little effort, and so they needed a backout plan. Their backout plan was to crawl to the Iranians put back the borders after the gains in the war, and let the Iraqis land their aircraft in Iran. Same thing with the WMDs. The Iraqis knew they had to be shifted and shifted fast. Of course you’re not going to get the countries concerned giving you the full facts as they have as much to lose if they are found with Iraqi WMDs in their armories.
You know, I have never been able to figure out why people hate communism. There’s nothing wrong with the concept of it, just the assholes who have tried it.
Why can’t we hate “tyrants” instead of “commies”?
Well said sirrah!
communism/socialism, in theory, is an excellent form of government. The inherent problem with any sort of socialism/communism is people. When you have nothing, a potato a day and a ratty blanket are luxuries. When you see your neighbor eating Filet Mignon and sleeping in a warm bed and wanting for nothing, greed and jealousy take over, and suddenly your potato and ratty blanket look like shit. If there are no jobs that pay well enough, (or you are too lazy to find one) you start to blame the government for only giving you potatoes and shitty blankets, and thus the seed of revolution is planted, next thing you know, you’re stabbing a “dictator” in the heart with your country’s flagpole, standing on a pile of bloody bodies as you usher in a “new era” for your nation. A nation that is now in greater poverty because everything has been destroyed, all your comrades have been killed, and you’re stuck holding a bloody flag with bits of dictator on it. Don’t you wish you still had your potato?
bottom line, you can’t please all of the people all of the time. period.
Actually, what is wrong with communism/socialism is that they take away economic freedom. If you think that personal and political freedom are seperate from economic freedom, you’re quite wrong.
Also, the second moral failure of communism (though not socialism by its nature) is that it must require an end to democracy. If the state is to obtain and use the power to control the economy, it can’t have people voting to do things differently.
that’s just a cute little soundbite. Tell me, do you have any that are relevant to what I posted, or are you just content to try and make yourself sound intelligent? DUH economic and personal freedom are intertwined. They are not, however one and the same. While you make a valid point, albeit barely, it bears no relevance to my post.
I interpreted your post to be commenting on why communist/socialist “revolutions” fail. I more or less agree with that, but you started your post with the statement that they are excellent forms of government. Since I was pointing out why they aren’t, my points do, in fact, have relevance to your post.
I didn’t say that personal and economic freedom are the same. But both are are required to be able to live your life the way you choose to. In communist or socialist economies, your choices on how to make a living are going to be limited by the state’s bureaucracy. So, if by ‘in theory’ you mean a utopian vision of such governments that have no chance of matching reality, I guess they can seem to be excellent forms of government.
Actually, Communism/Socialism are democracy. You only think you are voting when you go to the polls, but really you are perhaps unbeknownst to you, agreeing to allow either/or to become what other people do not want to have to abide by, MOBOCRACY!
Isn’t that what I said?
Well said, Brother!
I agree with you, but you know how difficult it is for the human mind (ego) to let something go. Once vilified (for whatever reason), it can a long time before people are able to look objectively again.
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I don’t believe communism per se failed. I believe the implementation of it did. That was due more to the corruption of the people involved than the system itself.
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I also have to add that as the story is told, Jesus and his disciples were more communist than anything else.
you mean Jeebus was a long haired pinko commie liberal? No, say it ain’t so!
Jesus was a total Commie. That didn’t work out any better then than it will now, because of the human factor. In theory, on paper, pure communism is a beautiful thing. In reality, you’ve got idiots who will hoard and not share. Or, will not work and help out, and then expect their fair share along with those busting their butts to make ends meet. Look at Jamestown for a failed experiment in communism.
yup… sad really… c’est la vie…
LOL–I’m sleepy, and read “Jamestown” as “Jonestown,”
and took your comment a whole different direction…
*headdesk*
I did the same…
Oh, man….me too.
That’s why Peter had to kill Annais and Sapphia…
Um, Peter didn’t kill Annanias and Sapphira.
If I was standing over two bodies and said to you ‘They died because they lied to god’ I’d be standing trial in no time… Peter and his gang had means, motive and opportunity. It’s the only logical story that Peter killed them or had them killed.
I would assume your weekend had gone as planned.
You know too much of my peccadilloes…
(edited for swearing this time)
Communism/Socialism is actually, in theory, a great form of government. The problem with making Communism/Socialism work is people. For example, When you have nothing, a potato a day and a ratty blanket seem like luxuries, But when you look across the street and see your neighbor dining on Filet Mignon and sleeping in a warm bed in a heated house and wanting for naught, suddenly jealousy and greed kick in, and your potato and blanket look like crap. When there is no work to be had (or you are too lazy to go out and find it), and you have no way to improve your situation, do you blame the neighbor? NO. You blame the government that is providing for your sustinence. Thus the seed of revolution is born. You act out, you fight, you start a war, fighting for “freedom from oppression”. Next thing you know you’re jabbing the pointy end of your flag staff into the heart of the “tyrant” who only gave you potatoes and dirty blankets. You shout for joy because you’ve won, and then you look around from atop your pile of dead bodies, and you see that noone has anything now, because it’s all been destroyed in the fighting, the fighting caused by your revolution. All you have left is a bloody flag with chunky bits of politician on it. Don’t you wish you still had your potato?
bottom line, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Because we have tyrants, irrespective of our method of governance. In the ed that need someone to hate. It’s why religion is a great idea…
You mean in the end the tyrants need something to hate so they hate an idea?
No, it give people a focus of cohesiveness, while legitimising the tyrant since he ‘believes that same as you’… the rituals serve the same purpose as the ‘Two Minute Hate’ Big Brother used in 1984…
I don’t follow. I was wondering why people hate “communism” and not tyrants. Are you saying those very same communist tyrants get up and say “Down with communism” so as to legitimise themselves?
Or are you just trying to say people are to stupid to tell the difference?
If I may try this, I think what he’s saying is that regardless of the form of government, or the peoples involved, it rarely matters what the exact message is or even how it’s presented as long as you get the focus of the people primarily on that message. Get the majority of the people, or at least the vocal ones believing your message, chanting your message, and spreading your message, and the hard part of your work is done. Now you’ve got a bunch of people willing to abide your every word. Give them a common enemy or even a common goal. The enemy seems to work better. Anger and fear are much stronger emotions than ‘agreement’.
In recent US history the focus from various groups, not just the government, has been:
Japanese Americans
Communists
American Blacks
Atheists
Gays
Arabs
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I haven’t read 1984 since the late ’70s so I don’t remember the exact reference. On a side note, in 1983 I saw spray painted on a wall, “1984. Avoid the rush, panic now.”
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We got past 1984. Then we had Y2K. The next ‘panic date’ being used is 2012. In the mean time we had things like Bushes Terror Alert color chart [link]. (I did my bedroom in ‘Guarded’ and my Living Room in ‘Elevated’), which worked remarkable well. Any time they needed people to fall in line, they changed the level and the entire country turned toward DC in a panic like a 3 year old child waiting for daddy to check the closet for the bogey monster.
I’d read the introduction of ‘V for Vendetta’ in
the trade paperback to get Alan Moore’s take
on the whole sorry mess…
Yeah, if nothing else, we got some great books/movies out of the Red Scare. I wonder if anything positive will come out of the Bush Scare…
Yeah but that just proves my point..
Japanese Americans
American Blacks
Atheists
Gays
Arabs
Communism is an idea. These aren’t ideas. Why do people hate the idea?
Blargh.
Actually, these are just ideas too.
Japanese Americans during WWII – traitors that will take down the country from the inside
American Blacks – inferior beings who want to destroy our way of life
atheists/gays – sinners who want to destroy all that is good in this country
arabs – terrorists! who want to physically harm us.
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Communists are people too and rooting out their evil evil ways was the idea. Having a villain is a great way to achieve solidarity.
Sorry about that long-winded answer. The short answer is that that Tyrants focus the hate of the people onto things like Communism or whatever is the prevailing fear of the day in that society, and off of themselves. It works quite well.
This is why you’ll find that no matter what the religion or sect, chances are that their god hates all of the same things they do.
Yes… in essence…
kthx
Because the powers that be are really not scared of the tyrants, they are scared of the ideas of socialism and communism. These people, who own the vast majority of the world, are really, really afraid of anyone coming to take it away from them. The “commies” want to take their toys away and *gasp* share them with others. So they make the rest of us afraid of it as well, regardless of the fact most of us have orders of magnitude less to lose.
That being said, I personally don’t believe communism is a viable economic system but I think capitalism is an unholy mess to. There needs to be a balance between a system that can drive an economy like capitalism and one that provides at least a basic standard of living as socialism/communism is meant to. But then I am just an old-fashion Euro-style Socialist Leftie.
SocioCapitalism. Make an acceptable minumum standard of living for everyone, then, if you want to go above and beyond, go for it.
There was a study done recently (I can’t find the article, I’ll keep looking) that looked at the responses to wealth. The study concluded that if a man is making $40,000 a year and his neighbor is making $100,000 a year, the first guy would rather see his neighbor make less money than to take a $20,000 a year raise. It goes back to the human condition of wanting everyone to be at your misery level, and not wanting anyone better than you.
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The problem with this is that eventually, the ‘same misery level’ becomes everyone living under a bridge with no material possessions, because at least no one has more than me.
I’d be really interested in seeing both the study and how everything was worded. If you can find it I will certainly read it.
But the fact is, this very system, a mixed socialist/capitalist model, does work. Witness much of Western Europe until they started trying to emulate us.
My point being the word “communist” strikes fear into the hearts of people the way the word “Nazi” or “Al-qaeda” does. Communism is an idea, a form of government/society. Anyone can be a communist, but it’s not communism that made the USSR or China dictatorships and scary countries. It’s the people who declared they were communist countries. People (in my experience) think commie = evil country/person bent on taking over the world. They don’t separate the communism from the people who “implemented” the communism. I’m not talking about people who are rich and are terrified of not being rich. People need to understand communism before they can decide if they are afraid of it or not. Otherwise they are just cattle.
Oh… wait….
That’s right. The thing that was wrong with those dirty commies isn’t that they were dirty commies, it’s that they were dirty ATHEISTS!
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My handle ACSIS came from a former thread. It’s an acronym for:
atheist/communist/socialist/islamic/stanic <- yes, stan, not satan.
Hence, I am the ACSIS of evil. Some of the things the right-wing hates.
i like it!
The inherant problem with the LOL is that the country from which this man comes was never truly communist in the first place. Totalitarianism is bad. I’m not sure we’ve seen true communism in action.
There is a LOT wrong with the concept of it, I’m not going to keep working 60hrs a week, if my family is not going to benefit from it. The whole “all for one and one for all” is a myth. It lets lazy people benefit from someone else’s work ethic. The intelligent people and the hardworking people who are willing to bust their asses to improve their lives are penalized by the communist society who want to nuture the people who obviously can’t take care of themselves and are waiting for a handout.
Well, Socialist has to come first. And we sure are heading that direction.
Meanwhile in reality, the Bush administration nationalized many of the major banks.
and over here in dreamland, obama is doing the same thing…
please notice that 36% of CITIgroup is now owned by the federal government…
According to some paper or other Scotland is set to be the 3rd most state dependent country in the world, after Cuba and Iraq. (Although, according to the First minister that’s just “blind prejudice in London” making up crap.)
Bit random, but I thought right wingers would like to know they could be in a leftier place….
the next six months are crucial to how far nationalized our banks become… speaking as a financial analyst i think that it’s a good move for the interim because it shows investors that the fed is really taking an interest in whether or not citi makes it through this… but if they keep buying more and more of the company i think it will send the wrong signals to the economy… but… we’ll see…
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maybe they’ll buy my bank so that i can get better health benefits like other federal employees…
Financial analyst? Isn’t that geekspeak for ‘paper pusher’?
lol. pretty much… except my pieces of paper have larger numbers on them than most…
It’s not paper… it’s data entry…
Personal attacks: what those who cannot argue a point use instead of intellectual discourse…
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Festers next post will be how I’m too stupid to argue with in the first place…
Look, Fester’s argumentative style is to couch actual fact and reason in a shell of insult. He’s right, but you’re focusing on the insult as if it’s personal. AND you’ve made the cardinal error of being a dumbass one too many times about a particular topic, so you’ve lost his respect and get no information. From this point on, until you can actually form a cohesive argument, you will be subject to his insults.
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I’d suggest actually forming an argument that makes sense instead of focusing on Fester’s bile. Then, he’ll leave you alone and actually have a discussion with you.
@ubr: Listen to Froo: Hers is the voice of
experience.
Which ones? Back up your claim, or don’t make any. This is absolutely without reference.
So, as I said, back up your claim.
As someone who is proud to be a conservative, I must say that just because I supported my president, doesn’t mean I supported all his methods. People make mistakes, it’s up to the voting public to make sure that those mistakes don’t become the way of life.
Bush was not blameless, but neither is Obama. It’s human nature to screw up every once in a while.
It isnt ironic at all, its dumb-it would be ironic if the country was STILL communist, but it isnt.
Exactly. Irony is when something happens that you DON’T expect.
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A person should be able to form a reasonable expectation that a former communist state would be the first to tell other nations that communism doesn’t work. If it worked, they would still be using it.
And that is what Vlad here came to say. “zee communism eet doesn’t vork!”
He’d more likely punch someone in the face than do an accent like that.
In fact, he’d more likely punch someone in the face than do a lot of things.
Like breathe?
lol!
Vlad scares the hell out of me.
But he’s damn sexy still.
*questions sanity*
The fact that you find him sexy–hormones talking!
The fact that he scares you demonstrates sanity!
True. I see your point.
*slaps self*
See? Vlad IS sexy, we’ve established that, Captian Wow. He’s still scary! Back away, Captain Wow…..
*backs away cautiously*
He’s a man best contemplated from a very long distance away…maybe webcam by satellite connection!
Heh? Irony is when something is said but the meaning is the exact opposite of the words being used, or when the end result is different (usually the complete opposite) from the expected result.
Well, I guess you’re half right. Sorry.
no they were all right. You as well. You’re right, Irony is the use of words expressing something other than their literal intention. It is also an outcome that is contrary to what is expected(situational irony). And for those interested is it a literary device in which the audience is privy to knowledge that the characters are not. (dramatic irony)
>.> *totally hasn’t been watching “the devil’s hands are idle play things”*
No, Steve’s definition was incomplete, which makes it only half right.
“Irony is when something happens that you DON’T expect.”
I filled in the rest. My comment was a direct reply to his.
Eh, never mind. I shouldn’t have put in the parentheses in my original reply. I realised he was half right and just kinda gave up. Whatever.
You just won 4 internets.
Yo, numbskulls, this is what the joke is about:
http://www.therightperspective.org/?p=1472
To elaborate, someone doesn’t understand politics, economics, or the definition of irony.
close to first!!!
To artificially inseminate a cow, you will need a shoulder length rubber glove and a portion of frozen bull semen. You should ensure the cow is in her stall with her tail towards you. Put on the rubber glove. Hold the semen in your hand until it melts. Then insert your arm into the cow’s rectum, all the way up to the shoulder. There is a thin patch in the colon right above the ovaries, this is where you should release the semen.
And never use your own semen.
Mr. Wholsome I salute you. You read the fine print. Not many people do that. Hence our overpopulation of cowpeople.
*salutes*
I don’t know what the thickness of the print has to do with anything (all the letters look equally thick to me), but thank you for your sensitivity.
Holy crap you can reach a cow’s shoulder by sticking your arm in it’s ass?
please don’t attempt to tap me on the shoulder…
lets hope said leader is listening
To what?
I’m so glad that we all understand irony so well.
Now, let’s all go explain it to Alanis…
She understands irony perfectly well. She wrote a song about irony that had no irony in it whatsoever. That’s ironic.
I don’t even know who you’re talking about, but that was funny!
Alanis Morrisette. Used to be known as Moose on You Can’t Do That on Television if I recall correctly. The song talks about lots of unfortunate things, and calls them ironic. Which they aren’t.
“The soil of a man’s heart is stonier.”
This was meant for the poster below. Sory.
Comment went in the wrong place, eh? At least it wasn’t buried in a pet cemetery, because then we’d have undead comments shambling around eating all the other post’s vowels.
Got it it one!
h n ! t’s hppnd! h ndd cmmnts r ls !
dnt knw wht y mn sth…. nvr hppns hr…
Holy crap, Fester. Look at the timestamps on our last two comments. That’s some synchronicity right there.
It’s debatable… great minds think alike, or fools seldom differ…
Take your pick
It’s like raaayyyyynnnn on your wedding day.
A free riiiiiiddddddde after you’re already paid.
Some good advvvvvviiisssee that you just can’t take.
Isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?
She was on YCDTOTV, but she wasn’t Moose. She was a skinny short little thing.
“Moose” was Christine McGlade.
Irony is naming the national airport after the president who fired all the air traffic controllers. Irony is a Scotsman being the first to clone a sheep.
LOL!
You are a lucky, lucky man. It’s an annoying earworm of a song.
I am, in many many ways. Now I can add one more. Thanks!
OT, but thought you might like to see this. [LINK]
I just saw that recently. Not that page, but that fish and the new findings. Seriously cool is it not?
I think we should all come with a transparent head.
Thanks!
He gets my vote for Best. Fish. EvAR!!
Obama is pushing for more transparency, so perhaps
we can get our wish! PK has already helped me with my
eye rolling skill.
Keep your fingers crossed!
Irony. This man’s heart is it.
I thought it was more stony or icy than irony.
Hey, isn’t it weird that people pronounce “irony” (as in what this poster is pretending to convey) eye-ron-ee but irony (like you’re saying) is eye-er-nee?
And who is Ron, anyway?
Founder of Scientology
ron jeremy
Ron Jeremy founded Scientology? I always thought it was L Ron Hubbard..
No no no I was answering Seth, not Uncle Fester. Please note the nesting.
no, the aliens founded scientology. l ron hubbard just wrote the book.
I snickered when I watched the LOTR movies, every time they mentioned Elrond. Agent Smith and Scientology.. hee hee
I. Ron Butterfly
In the Garden of Eden Baby
Don’t you know that I loooove, yooooou
In the Garden of Eden Honey
Don’t you know that I’ll always be truuuuue
[Link]
Simpson’s reference, definitely a win.
Wow. I think this is one of the worst lols I’ve seen here. Now WHO voted “Win” on this? Anybody? Raise a hand so the entire class can see who you are. Oh, and this is going on your report card.
i’m just suprised that any anti-obama lols actually made it to the front page… the fact that this one is so weak might speak more to the political bias of pk then anything else…
Ubr- how to be bitter and butt hurt all in one move…
Quite how this is ‘anti-Obama’ is jsut wishful thinking from the man who sold his mother for glue…
bitter and butt hurt?
no more koolaid for you fester.
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it’s inferring that obama is trying to turning the US into a communist country… not a good lol in my opinion. i’m not surprised that you missed the point though…
Ah the ever fresh ‘koolaid’ bullshit… get a new record why don’t ya?
I forgot the PK swear filter
Ubr, the ‘koolaid’ thing is basically just showing you as a cretin. Expect something else later, but you’re a retard… the koolaid thing just proves it.. mentally dull.
In capable of thought…
Dumb arse
idiot
poltroon
spaniel lick turd to the right and the rich
dolt
moron
want me to continue what you are?
I can
and the filter won’t stop that…
you’re a fool
a mountebank
a cur
a hypocrite
a liar
a blaggard
a man with the extrinsic morality of a $1 crack addict lady of the night…
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That’s witty. Really. Or at least half so.
i was too lazy to actually attempt to say anything of value to fester… it’s not like he’s saying anything of importance in the first place…
QED, always fun when the other side does the work for you… the material write’s itself…
write’s?
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and you’re calling me a moron?
religious ideology has nothing to do with it.
Says the man incapable of German Capitalisation…
fester, if you would like to actually say something of value now would be a good time… but if you would like to continue attempting to insult me, feel free… it really doesn’t bother me in the least…
IT self evidently does, otherwise you’d not have been copying and pasting…
you’re still an idiot…
yes, copying and pasting is so difficult… *yawn*
QED… you’re an idiot.
UF, I notice you really enjoy using the word “cretin”
It’s a good word… says exactly what I mean…
btw, what do you have against koolaid?
It’s cliche… dull
Typical sound bite from the mentally challenged with nothing to say
It’s your standby, and like any tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing…
you seem the think it’s ‘clever’… some how ‘funny’… you really are a tit.
*opens mouth to speak* nevermind… I’ll leave that alone.
i use it the same way you use cretin… so… your point was what again?
Cretin had a defined meaning once… you are thyroidally abnormal
The whole ‘koolaid’ thing is simply tired… the benchmark of someone incapable of anything ‘better’… you’re a cretin.
I’d place you on the mild end… ut with cognitive impairment…
Or you’re simply stupid… I’d prefer to think that thyroxin would fix you…
“Cretin” is a medical term for an adult human who grew up without the benefit of thyroxine or tri-iodothyrone. The result is a severely undersized and mentally deficient individual. Rather a tragedy, since it can be prevented with iodized salt in most cases, and meds in the rare few born without a thyroid gland.
Just saying…
I thought it was referring to someone born on the Isle of Crete.
No it’s not which is why way back when, I told you your joke about never having been on the island of Crete, after you were called a cretin by UF, wasn’t funny.
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It comes from the French, not Greek.
I didn’t really think that a cretin was someone born in Crete. You.. nevermind, this conversation will not be worth my time in my current state. *bows out*
Remember, snorting drain cleaner’s is nobody’s friend…
strong pain meds, in my case, but luckily, I should be off of them in the next couple of weeks..
Probably a wise move… my deepest sympathies…
I always read “greek” as “geek” which makes me giggle.
I agree it’s not all that funny.
I giggled.
*joins charro in founding “The PK Home for
the Easily Amused”*
Yes! Someone like me! *swoons*
There will be others. “Build it and they will
come.” We need a marketing gimmick…
Any ideas?
The “plate of brownies” thing usually works,
but should we try for something new to draw
in the easily amused throngs?
That looks like “easily amused thongs.”
*giggles*
I’m easily amused; I’ll join.
I’m too easily amused, actually… do you offer a rehab program?
Actually, I think being too easily amused
puts you in the upper echelon.
*offers Aedriel a “:-)” cookie*
It’s no longer used. I’m just old enough to remember the medical classifications of ‘idiocy’…
There were great, baroque, lists of what was meant by ‘moron’, ‘idiot’, ‘cretin’ et seq.
As a side bar, I seem to remember a lot of work done in the area of childhood and geriatric dementias in Germany in the period 1933-41…
i work for an alzheimer’s/dementia research firm…
. o 0 ( do I work for the Nazis?)
Well, in modern medicine there’s a lot of Nazi and Japanese ‘medical’ data
It’s how we got a man on the moon…
And lo, there is a cure for the Nazis…
Try, Wang-ALL for all your wanging needs, you damn Nazi sayer…
The Nazis got a lot of information on the breaking strains of Limb in living subjects, the Japanese got more, insofar as
tension (racking) strain, as well as shear… It’s why there wer so few Japanese war crimes trials… they traded the US the info…
I always laugh when I hear someone talking about Nazis in NASA. I can only assume you are speaking of Wernher Von Braun, the “Father of modern rocketry”. Yes, he was a German national, and yes, he did create the rocket that came to be known as the “V-2″. But his interest was always in space travel, not weaponry. He had no choice but to work for the Nazis, and took the first chance he had to get away from Germany and defected to the US. Without him, we wouldn’t have the space shuttle, we never would have walked on the moon, hell, we never would have made it into space.
I never said anything about Nazis in NASA…
And Peenemunde was no holiday camp for the forced
labour interned there. The Allies turned a huge
blind eye to the fact that bodies were stacked
under the timber steps up to the rocketry
observation tower prior to ‘disposal’… Old
Uncle Werner and his mates all denied any
knowledge… I can only assume someone
shouted ‘Look! A Giraffe’ every time they
passed by, or over, the place, and pointed in
some random ‘away’ direction to distract
them… I can’t imagine how they disguised
the smell…
Probably blamed it on the drains.
People are generally eager to accept any explanation that allows them to avoid recognizing and dealing with something horrific.
Blame it on the drain, yeah yeah.
Is that a Milli Vanilli reference? LOL.
Couldn’t be… Charro’s lips were in synch…
Tee hee
Maybe not used medically on your side of the pond. But it still shows up in patho textbooks here.
Yes, but you’re a third world hell…
Honest Question: Have you ever been to the U.S.? Aside from the major cities, I don’t see too much wrong with. Corrupt government twits, but that’s to be expected anywhere you go, I would assume.
Yes, thanks… never again… not even for money…
Yes, but I doubt a doctor would ever tell parents
that the diagnosis of their child was “moron,”
right?
That might be a better idea, me thinks
and a one way trip to a lawsuit…
I think I, in HR, should be allowed to call people morons. It would make me a happy person at the end of the day.
you get to destroy their lives in HR… you have enough fun…
I refuse to consider the separation from employment because of 9 missed days in a two month period ‘ruining lives’. Rather, it’s ‘weeding out the riffraff’.
You just apply pressure to the ants. It’s their
decision to give up the fight, right?
Hey, I can’t force them to come to work
If they want me to hold their widdle hands and pat their backs for doing their jobs, they’re in the wrong place!
Depends on the reason for the 9 days really… Sick children or dying parents aren’t much of an excuse under Texas employment rules…
and then there are the other petty fogging rules… and great bits of timing… like the managers new cars arriving at the same time as they lay off a line…
Yeah, the US has this weird idea that death of a parent only requires 3 days to deal with. Obviously rules like that were established by folks who either haven’t lost a parent, who have ‘staff’, or who can afford a stay-at-home spouse to deal with every one of “life’s little inconveniences”.
Actually, Fester, the FMLA does apply in Texas. (and being in HR I’m sure Froo is well aware of it, so I doubt she’s firing people for their absences due to serious medical conditions of themselves or their kids or parents). [link]
You would be correct, madam. The bulk of people are fired from my plant for just missing days, not because of an illness or a family member’s illness. We use the crap out of FMLA, and for good reason.
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I can’t justify having someone miss that many days when they say they’re sick but have no symptoms of anything other than a hangover, especially when the person working on the next line over is hacking up a lung (figuratively speaking) because they need the money.
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And do you realize how many days 9 absences in 2 months is???? I don’t think I’ve been absent 9 days in a year!
And, FYI, my company can boast (honestly) that we’ve never had a layoff. We have the best balance sheet in the business, and the plant I work at is the only one that we’ve ever financed versus paid off before it was built. Our owner is a little anal-retentive about making sure we can take care of our people.
Yep, I was pretty sure there wasn’t a “Texas Exemption”…. and your owner sounds pretty cool. I can sympathize with your HR issues as we have a little crowd of dingbat girls in my office who will go out and “party” together on weeknights and then the next morning at least one will be late or out “sick”…and we all know they’re just hung over. If I was in charge….well, let’s just say the rule would be “If I can haul my a$$ out of bed, get a shower, grab some hangover food, slap a smile on my damn face and make it to work on time, so can you, missy!” (I do try to avoid getting hung over, especially on work days, but once in a while it happens, and then you concede that how foul you feel is your own damn fault and suck it up.)
It really irritates the crap out of me when someone comes in complaining that they ‘just don’t feel good’ and can’t work. They think that because I have a desk job now that I didn’t start out as a grunt just like everyone else. As a new supervisor hired in to work on a line, I had to go to a plant that was already established and work 12 hour days on the line so that I could do every job I was expecting my people to do. I can’t tell you the number of nights I cried myself to sleep because my hands hurt so bad! But, I dragged my butt out of bed the next morning, slapped on some Ben Gay, and had at it for another 12 hours.
I want to grab them by the shoulders and give them my sad little story of working 12 hours a day until my plant opened.
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Our employees are given what we call ‘work hardening’, which means that they only work 4 hours a day their first week, 6 hours their second week, and finally up to 8 on their third week, so they don’t have to go through what we as new supervisors had to deal with.
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So I find it hard to have any sympathy for people who complain about their hand being ‘a little sore’ and can’t work after only having been there for 3 and a half hours
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But I don’t, cuz I’m a nice person
But what we really want to know is…
Does the Ben Gay tenderize the meat?
Ya know, if the sexual tension between you two got any thicker, I would need a water hose to scare you apart after the knotting…
Heh. Gotta say it. Firehose.
Ice water… he wants me… you can tell
“dont mind fester, he only insults you when he has nothing to dispute your argument…”
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i forgot who said it, but it makes perfect sense…
It was that idiot Robert, or you…
neither have ever said much of worth…
“neither have ever said much of worth…”
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yet you still attempt to talk with me at every opportunity..,. quite funny really…
Not ‘with’, more ‘about’, in that point and laugh Nelson Muntz way…
Yet you’re holding a conversation with me right now about how you don’t talk with me, only about me… quod erat demonstratum you’re retarded…
Oh just give it up, please! Either learn to talk to each other like adults, or ubr, leave it alone!
and still at least 30 IQ points above you, Chromosome lad!
Speaking of sex, DWN, have you ever tried ginger on yourself?
Understanding the difference between Communism and mainstream Liberalism FAIL.
Actually, this is a reference to the fact that Putin warned Obama not to make the same mistakes that the U.S.S.R. did. It’s not a slam, it’s something that actually happened. Though the ‘irony’ part, while apt, could be considered a slam.
Exactly. More like ‘Taking a joke’ fail.
Well it is good that Putin did warn Obama. I assume O would most likely make a better President than say Stalin, but would we rather Putin tell him TO do what the USSR did? And Obama isn’t any sort of Communist. This isn’t McCarthy-Land anymore. I am pretty sure Obama will not do anything USSRish. Good luck Mr President!
I thought America still was capitalist…. hmm… Oh well, good for America…
In my philosophy class back in college, we had a talk on democracy vs communism, and a girl who was quite shocked that we even had to have an argument to debate the merits of communism got up and said “I don’t see why we have to have this discussion. It is highly offensive to a lot of people. We all know Communism is really bad because Hitler was such an evil guy and like killed a lot of people”
The professor had this look of mute suffering, and a lot of people, myself included, became thoroughly depressed.
The person who posted this “witty” caption reminded me of that incident, and now I have to deal with the hopelessness all over again.
Don’t say “hopelessness!” You know that at least one person (yourself) knows what is going on…
You really haven’t been around long enough to get the existential despair about the idiots we share a planet with…
And lords are there plenty of them. Of course, one could argue in their defense… but why? I think we can all at least strive to be better than the rest of the ingrates that plague our society. And for Luna’s sake, make sure we’ve all got the facts straight…
ROFLMAO!
For those of you who don’t get it: Rofl Mao.
BTW, people seem to have forgotten what socialism really means. What we call “Communism” is really socialism, and what we call socialism doesn’t have a name because it’s not different from capitalism.
The real word for what “socialist” Europe and Obama are is “Utilitarian”
Utilitarian is the belief that you must rule in the way that provides the most benefit to the most people. If that means kicking a few rich folk to get me better healthcare, then that’s what will happen.
Oh, and government healthcare isn’t just for pore folks. It helps everyone. I was once admitted to the E.R because of sustained bleeding. All they did was give me some gauze and decide that they didn’t feel like cauterizing it. Total bill, over 2000$ That left my folks with a bill of 400$ after insurance.
Expect to be ignored if you don’t party like it’s 1959… McCarthy is still strong…
Know much about economics?
And that question means what? I’d say he didn’t have a bad grasp…
Maybe she’s looking for a tutor.
I had to do a debate like that. Power of many vs power of the few. We ended up winning because we argued for communism and a republic, which the US is, so when they reference the US it helped our point >.>
In my philosophy of religion we did “Does God Exist and is S/He/It Helpful or Harmful to Society”? and one of the god team said that god exists because there is no separation of church and state… Because… Wait for it… It says “in god we trust” on our money.
But only since the 1950s…
So god’s only existed since the 50s?
On some coins in the US since 1864
[link]
It became an official motto in 1956, thanks in no small part to McCarthyism
That’s when “under God” was added to the Pledge of Allegiance as well, as a way to distinguish us from those Commie atheists. I blame McCarthy for the moral majority.
Wow. She failed at her history.
Communism was to him what cheezburgers are to lactose-intolerant Hindus.
I guess that’s what movies have come to – Both the USSR and Nazi Germany are portrayed as the same kind of “z0mg teh evilz0rz” in movies, and now people can’t distinguish between far left-wing and far right-wing.
Not to mention chicken wings.
You’ve got wings? I’ll bring the beer!
So what is the difference between right-wing totalitarianism and left-wing totalitarianism as far as the impact on personal and economic liberty? Or any other kind of civil liberty?
The right wing usually had better styled uniforms… other wise, by virtue of robust attitude to human rcghts, habeus corpus and the use of torture et al, they tend to be indistinguishable when you’re being kicked in the kidneys in some urine soaked underground room by a large man in a bloodied vest and weighted sap gloves… Having said that bevested large man is usually a ‘contractor’ in a right wing tyranny, rather than a true believer in a left wing one. However, the kicking feels pretty much the same…
It’s like ra-a-ain…
On your wedding day…
You know, every time I see Putin, I expect it to be an announcement of his upcoming role in the next bond movie.
As the villain, obviously.
Hm, interesting. There is a point – rich Americans are getting quite hated on now
It’s earned…
…and largely tax loopholed, and incentivized, if not exempted…
Really?
Well, “earned” is debatable, but I think Unc meant the hatred.
I was going for the double entendre there.
Why don’t some of you mindless liberal pukes try getting your news from somewhere besides CNN etc
Russian Prime Minister Vladamir Putin has said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise “excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.
“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”
try google, it’s not too hard.
Isn’t the fact that the poster is trying to make Obama a communist mean he’s a detractor and therefore most likely… right wing? Try using your brain you right wing twit.
he does have a point in that nationalizing the banks could lead to catastrophe… too bad he didn’t put his idea in a rational and unbiased manner so that people would actually listen… but hey, what can you expect from a guy who’s name is no bama?
So, oh wise one, what was the alternative that wouldn’t result in a monopoly or a cartel?
*crickets*
I was referring to the mindless COMMENTS you MORON.
And Obama IS a communist, DUH
Where are the comments that indicate that the commenters are saying Putin have not said anything like this?
No, he’s not a communist in any place other than your twisted, McCarthyite, 1955 mind set…
Please expand on your description of communism, and show us how
Obama is a communist, thereby…
*waits*
.
Or did you think we missed that part?
Monopolies work so well competitively, I can see why you’re against the bail out…
Oh you made it?
Well, I like it, anyway. I’m surprised it made it to the front page; nice one.
Quelle surprise…
It is surprising it got on the page – don’t they have to get votes for that? I can’t imagine that happening here for this one.
Though, it’s generated a gazillion comments like immediately, and that despite the first one being “Hey, ignore this! It’s just a stupid conservative fail! Haha!”
Well, it is stupid, since as has been pointed out, it’s not communism, but corporatism, owing more to the ideas of Mussolini than Marx…
Since most avowed conservatives adhere to the Austrian School, then their thinking is more Corporatist than true Free Market, in many respects, since the market isn’t the driver of supply and demand in the end case, but the supplier tells the market what it can have, thus maximising profits while limiting choice and innovation. It’s why they carved up AT&T, since their attitude was ‘You’ll be grateful for what you’ve got since there’s no one else doing it…’
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/putin_warns_us_to_eschew_socia.html
Ah, a right wing blogspot from a right wing zombie…
Tell us an alternative that wouldn’t result in a monolpoly or cartel…
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It’s amusing, but factually it’s wrong… unless it’s a satire on Putin, being as ill informed about Communism as the average Right winger seems to be… then it’s leg wettingly funny.
I guess McCarthyism is not dead. Except the new McCarthy is Sean Hannity. In the future when Obama has left office McCarthyism will be renamed Hannityism.
This BS red-scare tactic isn’t fooling anybody… if I were a conservative I’d be sad beyond words that that was the best stratagem that the party leaders could come up with. Kind of shows you what demographic is running the show there, if there was ever any doubt.
The party faithful are ready as always to spew and rant about the -isms. Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Stalinism, whatever -ism catches their eye, without clue one in their pathetic f*cking heads what any of those ideologies entail.
Have you caught any of the reporting about CPAC? This really *IS* the
best they’ve got.
The conservative “movement” is wandering around, like a herd of sheep
without a shepherd, except that shepherd-less sheep still know how to
bleat on their own. I liken the situation to the death of Mel Blanc. For a
while there, none of the “toons” had a voice.
Oh, Rho, didja hafta bring up Mel’s death? I had just gotten over it…..
And, you are correct. What can we call CPAC, now?
[LINK] “Speechless” (good for a cry)
I don’t know, LG. I haven’t been glued to the coverage, but, from
what I’ve seen, the fiscal and moral conservatives seem to avoid
being in the same shot together (for the most part), and nobody
likes to use the word “Bush.” As best as I can muster, code for
such is “recently” or a variation.
That’s an interesting question. Do you have any ideas?
“the fiscal and moral conservatives seem to avoid
being in the same shot together (for the most part)”
Haha! Now THAT would make a good lol. But yeah, they OUGHT to avoid one another to a large degree; there is a big difference there. Jesus, what the hell excuse is there for policing someone’s private life that affects no one else except who they do business with? None, if you ask me.
I never did get the alliance, except for the abortion agenda.
The religious right and the GOP are old pals, and, although
they will be hard pressed to mend fences in time for 2010,
I can see them taking a hit then, learning a lesson, then
pulling back together in time for 2012. They need each other,
I believe.
Perhaps a relationship coach is in order?
I will say a good one, not lol, but not much is. Unfortunately, I still have not kept up with much. Yes the point is true and it is good that Putin gave some word of wisdom. We can only hope that Obama is not wanting to go that as far as what the USSR did. I would have liked the money myself, I would have paid off my bills, but Obama is the one in charge, the question would be, does he want us to continue to rack up debt or not have so much debt that we can actually afford the necessities.
And your alternative solution is…
Seriously, do you recall that the Bush bailout occurred for the same reason as
the stimulus package? We’re in some seriously troubled times. Saying that
you would have liked the money to pay your bills is short-sighted enough to
be called asinine.
Bush was a fool (as well as beaten to hell by that point after years of merciless hammering.) I doubt Obama is; it’s more of an enormous power grab than foolishness. I’m not sure if he knows how disastrous socialism really is to human lives or not; but it hardly matters now.
This isn’t socialism, other than in your insane head…
I’m a Texan, so please don’t try to sell me that Bush wasn’t a fool going
before entering the White House. We dealt with that little dude back when
he was the killingest governor in the killingest state.
Please learn about socialism. You seem to be a victim of scare tactics.
*erases “going”*
The way i see it is, if i did not have credit debt, if i was not paying the bills i have then i could afford to buy more, which to me would help the economy. giving the people opportunities to get themselves into more debt is not the best answer. Yes I do agree Bush did the same thing for the same reason, did it help? will what Obama do help? We can only see if what Obama did is going to help or not. I am not an economist, i am a help desk agent, so i do not have a full understanding of that stuff. You all ask if there is a better plan, I do not know, If i was in O’s position, I would have to listen to whoever I have and hope they are correct.
The ‘Boom through infinite credit’ myth is Reagan, not Bush…
I don’t really get why Americans feel like bashing Obama when the US is the only country that has to borrow words from astrophysics to describe what the deficit amounts to. You’re nowhere near anything that resembles socialism or communism. Screaming for more “economic freedom” when you’ve messed up your economy so bad it impacts the entire world sounds like asking someone to keep hitting you in the head with a hammer even after your forehead has caved in.
Going for a slightly more “left wing” approach might not be that bad. It worked last time things were this bad and we’re still enjoying the benefits of the thinking that got you out of trouble back then here in Scandinavia. Social democracy would be the correct term if anything and you’re still nowhere near that either so take it easy.
Things like paying UP TO 228 USD (today) IF you get sick and then having anything past that covered, 9 years mandatory school with the right to 3 more years and a right to a scholarship for higher education past that is pretty well spent tax money imo. Unless you’re Donald Trump and couldn’t care less.
It doesn’t cost you any freedom unless your concept of freedom is defined solely by the amount of tax you pay (and we don’t pay a lot more than you actually).
I’ll give you credit to that, it does sound nice. Better than the mess we’re in. If I wasn’t so dedicated to family here, I’d like to move abroad and find a country with a less-crap system to make my dwelling…
Word to the wise… I think you’ll find your third world hell is as good as it gets…
What part of the US did you visit, that you are so toxic about the whole f’ing country? I’m not an ‘American-right or wrong’ type of person, but I’m starting to think that your only experience with the US must have been the lower levels of Madison Square Garden’s train station or something.
I’ll promise not to judge the entire UK for my endless wait in Heathrow a couple years ago (where they wouldn’t let us check in until 1 hour before the flight–and so trapped scores of people in a seatless, airless linoleum hell), if you would be willing to consider that the whole of the US might not be well-represented by your apparently limited experience.
I have to admit I’m pretty curious about Festers time spent here in the U.S. too. I’m guessing it was spent in L.A. though.
Maybe with a side trip to Gary, Indiana (or as it’s better known: The Armpit of Indiana).
As to Festers point, the US actually is a 3rd world country compared to most of European countries as well as a number of other countries you probably don’t want to compare yourself to. That would be the generalizing approach however. Considering your economy and welfare system as a whole and all.
I’m not trying to judge the US as a whole based on any experiences really. If you found my post insulting to your concept of the American way of life, I can assure you my only intention was to show why I don’t get the Obama/Keynes (with a stretch) bashing.
Having the minimum amount of welfare required to make sure anyone has a shot at getting up there really goes along with the American dream-thing (Don’t even bother try to make me believe a trailer camp kid has the same chances of becoming president as anyone else). Evening the odds is what it’s about and your current president is doing a better job at it than your previous.
I could go to lengths about how the US can be considered two countries technically and especially within political science, but this is getting to the TL;DR point already.
Hmm… I am not talking for Fester, but this question sparks thought of my own, as I really don’t like the US either*. I have not based that on my experiences of being in the US, though. What I mean is – there are so many aspects to a country/nation and “but people are nice” doesn’t change the overlaying structural aspects. Thinking that someone’s dislike for the US must be based on only seeing some bad Americans is over-simplifying (a bit like thinking that most people who dislike Christianity only do that because of people like the Westboro Baptist Crackerjacks).
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That said, “your third world hell is as good as it gets” to me indicates that it’s fecked up all over the world, not that the US is worse than other places. (Reading it as “I hate the US” seems a bit US-centric, btw. ;p)
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*) I don’t massively dislike the US either. i don’t massively like or dislike any country, but am a bit allergic to nationalism, patriotism and whatnot. It’s much more fun trying to value various aspects of different systems and their effects on society.
I’m not an apologist for US policy, especially social support/health care/educational opportunity. I would prefer we had a system in place more like my cousins in Denmark experience. But UF’s language in his postings on this thread really do hit me as way over the top.
“Screaming for more “economic freedom” when you’ve messed up your economy so bad . . . ”
Good point. Really good point. The deregulation of the banking industry is what started most of this mess……hmm, let’s see: What group is always screaming for less regulation of Teh Market and Free Trade, and “more freedom” when it comes to $ in general? What group IS that? Let me think…..hmmmmm. I think it’s the right-wingers: the ‘publicans and the Libertarians.
Hey, don’t lump Libertarians in with the GOP. There’s a world of difference.
Republicans ACT like they’re champions of economic freedom by lifting regulations on the wrong groups, while profiting on military agression, er, “war on terror”.
Libertarians KNOW they champion freedom by advocating regulation on the Fed and limiting the amount of money thrown to the military. Also, Libertarians actually, you know, believe in civil liberties, which is eomthing the GOP can no longer claim.
In summation, the GOP and The Democrats are more alike than they are the LP. In fact, I am 100% convinced that the Dems and the GOP are actually the same political party, policy-wise, with a couple “token differences” like abortion, gun control, etc.
Shame the Libertarians are so rotten with Religious nut jobs…
BTW, since you made some noises that make financial sense, how do you stand on anti-Monopoly and anti-Cartel regulation?
*a lone coyote howls in the twilight, singing a song of an older world*
I’ll be honest, I don’t know enough about the subjects to say for sure. I know that being in favor of anti-monopoly laws is a catch-22: If I support them, I enrich the free market at the expense of government oversight. If I’m against them, small gov’t wins, at the expense of a truly free market. If regulation must be used, it needs to be focused and extremely limited – none of that “Let’s chop up Microsoft” bs.
No, that’s called LEARNING FROM EXPERIENCE, not irony.
I don’t see the irony.
Waitaminute….I just looked it up. Okay that is irony. I was under the impression that irony meant entirely made out of iron.
That was Stalin…
*Pfffthtbt!*
“Irony” is the state of having wrinkle-free clothes. Everybody knows that!
I thought an “irony” was what you end up with after having a kneecap replaced.
It isn’t what Ronald Reagan first said when he met Nancy?
LOL! YOU WIN THIS ROUND! BUT I WILL GET YOU!….and I would have went with Clinton and Lewinsky.
I see a pretty pretty Russian man. *rawr!*
What is all this white noise in the backround, distracting from my enjoyment of the yummy russian?
Stupid people arguing politics on the internet!
See, I don’t understand this; why is Putin so hot? I guess it really must be personal taste because I just don’t see it.
Kind of like I have trouble seeing how Jamie Lee Curtis (who I like) is so hot. Ditto for Sarah Palin, who gives me the creeps! But, hetero female, so maybe I’m just not wired right to see it?
Nah, I’m a bi-sexual female and I don’t see it either. (Jaime Lee is cute but not hot and Sarah, well, don’t get me started on the level of creepiness she inspires.) And I really don’t get Vladimir as hot. Seriously. Why?
Creepy? Srsly? That’s…well, that’s weird. Did you find her that creepy before you heard her speak, or only after? Because I could get it after; often cute or attractive people get ugly to you once they talk and vice versa.
FWIW my daughter is lesbian and she loves Palin and thinks she’s super hawt. She’s not conservative, but largely libertarian. The more people gangpile on her the more she loves her – gangpiling does sometimes have that effect on others; I think the left should get that message more often. It’s one of the reasons people rally around Rush Limbaugh.
Very simple actualy, I’ve got a thing for blue eyes and thin lips. ^^
Casa, that’s weird, I don’t like blue eyes as a rule, but I find him oddly attractive too. Maybe I just need to hear him speak to put that to rest. It works with others.
On the other hand, I find Fred Thompson very attractive as well (for some reason I really see through age as well as other factors). Fortunately when he opened his mouth it only got better
Irony: When someone makes a motivational poster entitled “Irony” without understanding what irony is.
Firstly, that wouldn’t be irony, that would be called EXPERIENCE. Secondly, Putin is running pretty much exactly the same policies as his communist forebears, including the dictatorship and large state ownership.
No. IRONY, that is when Putin says socialism doesn’t work, but continues to let the state own large parts of the production.
rofl this is a total fail…
i luv teh amerikan stoopiditi !!1!!!!!111
You also love Jerry Lewis…
Isn’t that what he said?
I’m not sure: I’m American, so how would I know?
I’m not American, and I think he belongs on ICanHasCheezburger…
You’re confusing communism with corporatism and it’s a form of the latter that you have in USA: state power giving taxpayers’ money to private and unaccountable interests(corporations) in the hope that some will trickle back down to the working class and middle class.
Nice post… you’re pissing in the wind, but it’s a nice post…
What’s all this gabbling about McCarthy?
The thing about McCarthy is that he’s the real world’s Rorshach.
Sure, he was a violent axe crazy psycho… and knowing that lets us gloss over the fact that in the end, he was largely right. Venona decrypts pretty much sealed that.
In any case, most “McCarthyism” was actually “J. Edgar Hooverism.” But what do you expect from a paranoid crossdresser?
The fact that he was right tends to go unmentioned a lot. It’s more fun to raise the spectre than inconvenient facts.
McCarthy was right how?
There really were communist operatives? In most of his accusations? Link.
Oh, yes, witchhunts are a GOOOD thing. Ruining lives? All in the name of protecting us! The ends justify the means…..riiiiight?? A little revisionist history never hurts–it’s been tried before–it particularly works when several decades have passed & there are fewer eyewitnesses (see “no Holocaust”).
But we’re supposed to have laws in place to protect the innocents from witch hunts–at ALL costs, even at the expense of allowing some guilty to slip through. McCarthy, Hoover, used scare tactics to wipe their ASSES with the U.S. Constitution.
LOL
Ah, that august organ the ‘World Net Daily’… The people who quote the one man who thought that maybe Saddam could restart his WMD program ‘in time’, was sufficient justification of the invasion of Iraq… “Given time”, I could develop WMD in my shed. I know how to make mustard gas, improve two types of napalm and make some reasonably large explosions using little but what’s under my sink ATM… Forgive my cynicism over the source… I’ll take the word of Pravda and the Weekly World News first…
but the thrust…
I’m so pleased that the black listing of Lionel Stander (Max from Heart to Heart) was such a boon to American society… I always thought he was dodgy
Fester, you can find plenty of sources about McCarthy – it’s all been freely available for a long time and is pretty much common knowledge. Admittedly I didn’t notice who that one was by; it was just the first one. But this all came out years ago – how is it exactly that you avoided knowing it all this time if you’re well-read? Or was the question bait?
What passes for “common knowledge” to you sounds a lot like the
baying of coyotes to most of the rest of us, so you’ll know.
I admire you for your moxie, though. Few people make the effort
to defend McCarthy or Bush.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
And where did I defend the guy? I said his charges were largely proven right; there were active communist operatives in the Defense Department, as has been revealed for nearly a decade now by declassified FBI documents and recordings. Acknowledging the factual claim that his charges were later proven true doesn’t amount to a defense.
Link.
I don’t see Rho is embarrassing herself… I’m not seeing anything that proves ht HCUA did much more than witch hunt… the hand grenade method of investigation…in the end if you thorough a grenade into a room with sufficient people, you’re going to hit someone with a piece of hot metal who deserved it.
I assume the ‘black list’ was acceptable collateral damage…
Of course not; it is important to note that unlike a hand grenade, most of the actual charges proved later to be accurate. Which is really the only thing anyone noted; no one defended anything at all! Don’t you think something like that is rather worth noting in any case?
You don’t seem to be addressing the innocent lives
that were ruined during the Hollywood Blacklisting
days. Would you like to try again?
No, because that wasn’t remotely what this was about. Everyone knows that part, don’t they? In fact he’s more like a boogieman at this point; one doesn’t have to know what happened at all to know that McCarthy is practically equal to Hitler when you’re tossing things out there.
What had gone unmentioned and unknown until ten years or so ago (which most of the charges had proven true. Now if it was unclear what was meant by “he was right”, then I do apologize, but as I said this is such common knowledge now that the charges were largely true, that it seemed unlikely anyone would mistake that statement to mean that he did right and good things.
Okay, I can agree with you that McCarthyism
expanded beyond McCarthy, without whose
(shall we call it) “style,” the decade-long
scare would not have been born. “He was
right” could have been interpreted as an
attempt to say he went about things the
right way, which is clearly not true.
I’m hanging up on the statement that “most”
of the charges were true. How many charges
were there, and how many of them were
true?
Are you speaking only of his initial charges?
I’m thinking the bulk of the Hollywood
Blacklistings were false, and the anti-union
bullying was obvious, and surely largely
false.
Again, the behavior was unforgivable, and
I’m not budging on the ends justifying the
means, any more than I would accept having
my phone calls monitored for purposes of
“national defense.” To me, there is very little
difference in the attitudes behind both.
Lovely Rho! If that statement is embarrassing yourself than sign me up for a wedgie!
“I’m not budging on the ends justifying the
means”
No need to; I didn’t say that and no one that I’m aware of did.
@Jane: LOL! That may be a dangerous thing
to say around here. Watch your back!
@Anniee: Just being crystal clear on that.
Do you have any numbers on the political,
Hollywood and union accusations? I’ve
looked, and can’t find a comprehensive list,
and none with a true/false notation.
According to Wiki [LINK], “It is difficult to
estimate the number of victims of McCar-
thyism. The number imprisoned is in the
hundreds, and some ten or twelve thousand
lost their jobs.”
Later, in the same article: “But for the vast
majority, both the potential for them to do
harm to the nation and the nature of their
communist affiliation were tenuous.”
Maybe now you can understand my reason
for being crystal clear on the matter of the
ends justifying the means.
@Rho: And how do you know that I even wear undies, hmmmm?
@Jane: Whether you do or not isn’t the real
question. The true concern is whether you
want someone going “in search of” around
here…
*darts eyes suspiciously*
Sorry for the last comment getting wonky in the middle; it was half hidden because my screen shows the nested comments a little weird and I lost my place.
Happens to everybody–np.
Then I’d suggest a ‘better’ source than the World Net Daily… the onus is on you here, not me… you referenced a crappy source… give a good one, or admit there isn’t one…
I don’t get how this would be ironic, even if it would happen. It sounds like good advise, not irony.
It’s unnecessary advice… There isn’t a communist anywhere near the White House, unless he’s living rough on Pennsylvania Av…
They DO have a pretty large staff….you don’t suppose there’s a communist working in the kitchen or something?
I meant one who’d admit it…
This has made my day, guys. A picture with a maybe possibly vaguely conservative meaning makes it to the front page, and the entire website shits itself.
Please, continue.
LMAO – even though the first comment was “ignore it” no one could – it’s SMOKING
and you add what by being here? apologetics for a man who was at best a monster… great… your mother must be proud…
I omitted the “also not a single cogent comment on Economics, which your alleged speciality”… thus far, you just seem to be another Limbaugh transcript quoter (yes, other people read Rush too…)
Well, I take genuine offense to that. I’m arrogant enough that I would believe that he is reading ME on the sly and copying me if he says the same things. Which I don’t know if he does. While it’s always interesting when I find out that someone has said the same thing I do, I’m just putting my word out there that I’m copying no one. Certainly not Rush Limbaugh.
I also thought that Ann Coulter and George Will copied me a couple times, when I was told of particular instances where they said something I’d said (don’t pounce on that too hard; just because there is a similarity in one or two things doesn’t mean one is endorsing someone. I’m still not convinced they didn’t pick up on things I’ve written and stated for a long time on certain specific subjects
Also, I am aware of your question, and I am not by any means positive from what direction it must needs be answered. It’s on the burner.
Does it whistle when it’s ready?
Ummmm, the comments section ALWAYS looks like this. This is nothing compared to the “I like your Christ” lol a couple of days ago. People come here to discuss politics, that’s what’s going on.
Oh come on, I know – but no, the comments don’t always look like this at all – this thread was positively smoking while previous lols had gotten only 1/5 of the replies. So…whatever. And I’m aware this is a political humor site – it’s the reason I didn’t give up on it too quickly; there is a dire need for genuine political HUMOR that goes in various directions and doesn’t go all in one direction.
I would genuinely like to see this site accomplish that, and it really seems it can.
1. Please check the nesting, I wasn’t talking to you.
2. The lol I referenced in my post has 1,350 comments.
1. Sorry, then. This format is really shitty.
2. Cool – that doesn’t equal ‘always’ looking like this. Some comments generate a sh*^storm and others don’t. This one expressed what amounts to a very minority view here, and despite being labeled a fail that should be ignored, clearly wasn’t ignored at all, and seemed to cause majority anger. Which is funny in that head-shaking kind of “Jesus, get a grip” kind of way.
So ACSIS speaks for all the posters on PK now? Also, since I’ve been posting here on a regular basis for about a year I’d have to say that, yes, PK does always look like this. It’s not the quality of the lol that generates the amount of comments, but the nature of the debate. Lols about religion and gay marriage have traditionally generated more posts in the past.
I don’t? ;-(
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Honestly I stand by my initial comment, (which was not the first comment Annie, but the first response). The questioner didn’t understand it, I told him/her it was best to ignore it since it was a fail. I didn’t tell Annie or anyone else to ignore it, nor did I expect it would be ignored. It has too many simple flaws that people love to pick apart for it to be ignored. And yet, I stand by my initial assertion, for all the reasons others have listed up here, that it is a fail.
*hugs* Sorry! I’d let you if it were up to me!
You’d let me?? Why?? What did I ever do to you??
Uh, yeah, thanks, but no thanks. I have enough trouble keeping up with my own personalities…
This caption does not qualify as irony. And It’s really crap.
Strangely enough if you actually took more than a cursory glance at his policies they are government in the private and public sector economy which is socialism. Whether or not it will work, well history says no but maybe he’ll be a combo breaker.
Wow, now that says something about the people we have running our country. Some might ask what that is, well her it is They are all MORONS.
I fail to see the irony.
russian star /:)
Yer hot!!! rowww meow I wanna canna da can we please get it on?
But… that’s not irony. That’s just… not even coincidence. That’s just common sense that someone who lived in an era of communism would dispense warning and wisdom on the subject. someone needs to buy a dictionary.
Let me explain. Putin went for a visit to America and England a while ago. While there he saw signs that both countries had started descending into communism. So he is reputed to have told both Barack Obama and Gordon Brown that communism doesn’t work. Therein lies the irony, if you re-read the text on the poster
This is not ironic in any way. It makes perfect sense that someone would tell someone else not to make the same mistake they did.
No, they don’t reproduce by buttseks. But a bull can squirt, a hand can’t, and a cow’s anatomy is such that it’s just easier to go in the backdoor. You can’t get your hand past the cervix, and up the fallopian tubes to where the eggs live. But as I said, the wall of the colon is very thin right above the ovaries.
Wow, I totally learned something new on teh internets. I’m a pretty smart guy, but I guess it’s mostly that fancy book learnin’ and not too much of that good-ol’ downhome farm learnin’.
I consider myself schooled.
You spent time on a farm, froo? The last time I lived on a farm, I was five. My mom with her hand up a cow’s butt is one of the few images from back then I have indelibly stuck in my head.
Oh, and more importantly, did I get it mostly right? Wouldn’t want people artificially inseminating cows the wrong way because of misinformation they found on the Internet. It might give the Internet a bad name.
indelibly or inedibly?
My parents have a farm, I have horses, and I was in too many Animal Science classes to name in college. I also had a sadistic Genetics instructor who made us stick our hands up cow butts after we jacked off the bull. It was gross.
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I’ve also delivered live miniature horses by reaching in and pulling the horse out because the vet’s hand was too big to do it himself. That will change and impressionable 12 year old forever, let me assure you!
Oh, and to clarify, ‘jacking off a bull’ isn’t what it implies, hehe. There is an electrical current involved, and no hands
And bull penises are WAAAAAY skinny.
better than an open necrophiliac…
or a homonecropedopyrobeastiophile.
We all need a hobby…
Yay, i’m a bull!
sorry.
ok, you went where I was thinking of going. Was it nice? did you take alot of pictures?
Maybe you had him confused with me. o:
BOOOBIES!
If you had seen that when you were five, would you forget it?
Knowing the guys on here, I think it’s good that you clarified!
There was a L&O:SVU that showed the primate version of that device…
Naw, Unc’s love of boobs is well documented.
Snort!
*sigh* Turns out “tit” is British slang for
“an imbecile, an objectionable person.”
So, despite hoping otherwise, I barely
escaped the journey with life and limb, and
my cleaning bill is going to be horrendous…
I’ve heard that one thing *invariably* happens when ones
arm is in a cow as you have described…
Incidentally, do you think cows have space alien abduction
nightmares?
Honestly, this is the pinnacle of enlightened and respectful debating compared to what it looked like before the election.