Comments on: LIBERALISM

By: Stuff n Stuff

Stuff n Stuff — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:06:52 +0000

Political Party WIN

By: J

Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:06:49 +0000

wait, you DONT want to impose your views??? That’s a new one…

By: dylan

dylan — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:30:05 +0000

just like to say that the same person made this LOL and the one before it

By: Ether3al

Ether3al — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:29:06 +0000

If socialism is the same thing as being open minded, thank God for elephants.

By: Zhaoping

Zhaoping — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:29:27 +0000

I disagree. There “are” nine months between January and October.

By: SockSock come and get me fester

SockSock come and get me fester — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:16:29 +0000

Not to mention the fact that all liberals are insane.

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:57:13 +0000

There are times AC, you ace it… that aced Carroll…
JINGS!

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:44:42 +0000

You sir, are the fool… By Roman standards
American conservatives would have been
considered seditiously liberal…
SO you’re proving what? That social mores
change? Ya don’t say…
in the 18th C men were termed ‘pretty’
and women ‘handsome’… It’s like saying
the same thing…
Simply due to the way the Overton window
slops about over time on different issues
means nothing, unless you take it in terms
of their own culture. By the standards of
their time, they were Liberal… makes no
odd what their opinion is now… Another
example, another Regency one in fact. By
18th C standards I’m frighteningly butch for
a man of my class… Does that make me
‘butch’ now, or a slightly camp Englishman
of dubious past?
So, I reiterate, you, sir, are being a fool
calling the lady a fool, since she could mop
the floor with you and then wring the
remnants in to a zinc bucket…

By: anniemcphee

anniemcphee — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:17:32 +0000

Putting forth demands upon demands that you KNOW are impossible to meet, with the express purpose of tying bureaucratic hands from doing anything else (demands for hundreds of billions in spending popping up every day and being pushed through, not to mention the budget proposals) fits the C-P strategy quite well. Oh, for the express purpose of bringing down a free market system and instituting a new totalitarian system of government control over what used to be free market decisions? We’re living it. It’s an Alinsky-ite tactic combined with a couple of others, and Yeah…it will probably work. That doesn’t mean there’s no coming back; it just means we’re looking to face things probably worse than gas lines/rationing in the near future. In 3 parts of the country people can not even find ammo – the shelves are bare. That is an ominous sign of things to come.

By: Hotjoe

Hotjoe — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:11:28 +0000

annie mcphee explained it very well. Is all you read comments that agree with you? really? This whole thing was about me using the term “Republican” to reffer to conservative ideologies in the 1860′s. You and a few other said i was wrong about that, when in fact, if you knew anything about it, you’d know that was correct. “Radical Liberals” back then held on to ideas that today would be considered conservative. Radical Liberals created the Republican party, which was made to help free the slaves. What do I have to say oops about? You so far have failed to make any type of rebuttal to that, I’m waiting. As long as you avoid the subject with “Hotjoe you aren’t smart, go die” than the only one pointing fingers here is me and anyone else who knows about this thing.

Like I said, I’m waiting. Quit being a fool

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:08:19 +0000

*points to the broccoli remaining on SP’s plate*

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:00:34 +0000

You, you mean your grandpa doesn’t switch the sun off…?

*shatters*

By: StreetPreacher

StreetPreacher — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:48:52 +0000

… I want cupcakes now.

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:48:24 +0000

Hotjoe, When you’re in a hole, quit digging,
okay? You’re not the first one to get
confused. Why so prideful? A simple “oops”
would suffice. The further you go into it,
trying to come out ahead, the sillier you
look. Now you’re calling me names for
distraction, silly, silly one! Jane explained it
very well, so there’s nothing to add. Just
say “oops” and quit trying to be a rooster.

If you do so, I promise to stop pointing and
laughing.

By: Starrfade

Starrfade — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:44:45 +0000

YAY you found the apostrophe on your keyboard!
OT: I will grant you that not being swayed by opinion doesn’t make one close-minded. However, if one can’t be swayed by _facts_, then close-minded applies.

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:30:47 +0000

Erm, ‘Agreed’? Who?

By: Starrfade

Starrfade — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:20:38 +0000

I would say that moral relativism _does_ apply to what Sinderlin said, as does the Robert Frost quote that the lol is based on.

By: Hotjoe

Hotjoe — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:18:08 +0000

When nearly everyone around me has agreed with me and i give you a clear explanation of why you fail, and why you are wrong yet you come back with nothing substantial except little phrases to make you feel better, pseudo-intellectual FTFail

By: Hotjoe

Hotjoe — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:15:52 +0000

Rhorho, You have given no explanation to why i actually fail, just cute little phrases that you think are clever little bits of wit. Try again. You Fail mate.

By: wicked witch

wicked witch — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:09:36 +0000

I’d like to be polite about this, so I’ll just say that was a thoughtless comment.

By: wicked witch

wicked witch — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:57:22 +0000

Uncle Fester, I don’t care what everyone else says about you, I like how your mind works!

By: Seth

Seth — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:57:46 +0000

It’s a common critique of liberalism. We see all sides of things, we don’t want to impose our beliefs on others, we recognize the validity of other views… often to the point that we won’t take our own side in an argument. Another common critique is just the opposite, that we bicker internally over the tiniest of difference. Somehow, both critiques are actually true at the same time.

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:42:36 +0000

*watches through welding helmet as Hotjoe
melts in the white heat of his exponentially
compounded fail*

By: Hotjoe

Hotjoe — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:37:02 +0000

No, jane. He was asking “what have conservatives done in the past” I used the term republicans because throughout time, even though the term “liberal” has changed, the ideologies of people who call themselves “republicans hasn’t no matter what point in time you are in. In the past, they were called Liberals, in the present, conservatives. they still held the title Republican. Please read anniemcphees comment. So in fact, UmmmNp and anyone else who contradicted what I initially said, has Failed.

Please read up more on this stuff before you post, thank you.

By: AC

AC — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:23:19 +0000

Well, I Wiki-d Carroll… Jings….

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:06:46 +0000

*snatches bowl and starts shoving their yummy goodness in*
What?

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:30:54 +0000

Yuck! “have” should be “take” there. Bad rhorho!

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:27:13 +0000

You mean like these?

*gives Jane a bowl of peanut butter M&Ms*

By: dissimilitude

dissimilitude — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:22:55 +0000

Aw, yeah… That was the Best Tabloid Ever. I always looked forward to seeing what they had on the cover when I was in line at the store!

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:19:05 +0000

Ah, I didn’t know that. I did remember that there was more to it than the Alice thing, but for lack of time to Wiki I though I’d leave AC her illusions.

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:17:34 +0000

Which method gets me peanut butter m&m’s?

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:12:48 +0000

Couldn't go away to school, not could. Man, I hate Firefox.

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:11:20 +0000

I don’t know, since I’m not in her situation I can’t say that it’s that easy to go out and get an education. I know that for the first three years of my school Charlie made too much money for my to qualify for low interest student loans or grants. My mom and I worked a series of summer jobs that gave me a healthy respect for factory workers and hotel maids, but even then I could “go away” to school like so many of my peers. I lived at home, and it is only because I have a great relationship with my parents that I was able to do so. Even now, I have the degree, and I’m only four classes away from having a master’s degree and I’m not working in my chosen field, I haven’t been able to find a job. So I am also working two part time jobs where the combined income barely affords me enough to pay my bills. Again, if it weren’t for the support of my parents I don’t know that I would even be doing this well. Not everyone lives close to a university either, so taking all that into account I’d have to say that I don’t know enough about Jasmine to say whether she has the means to go to school. I DO say it’s too easy for people with lots of opportunities to sit back and think she just needs to get up off her lazy butt like some of the posters above suggested (not you, of course Eds). Life doesn’t always work out the way we plan and I have great sympathy for Jasmine.

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:04:44 +0000

No, at least not that’s been proven. I was referencing the fact that he had a weird obsession with his friend’s daughter, Alice, who’s name he used in Alice in Wonderland of course.

He also took a LOT of photos of little girls, in whom he seemed to lose interest around puberty… now, whether it was psycho-sexual, or some strange Victorian obsession with ‘the innocence of child hood’ is wholly debatable, but old Charlie did like his nekkid little girlies…

By: rhorho

rhorho — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:03:02 +0000

Do you want the IV or the half-price after
Valentine’s Day sale box?

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:01:00 +0000

“Both Conservative and Liberal sources agree that there is nine months between January and October.”
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I <3 you StreetPreacher.

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:00:20 +0000

Thank you for the reasoned, point by point, demolition of the commentary…
I think that you really had him on the ropes with the near Paineian dissection of his third point…
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Basically, if that’s the best you can do, go to failblog… you’ll fit right in…

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:59:05 +0000

This thread twas brillig.

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:57:25 +0000

Actually HotJoe, we DO know that. What you are failing to see is that the comment you responded to said CONSERVATIVE, not Republican. You just compounded your fail by admitting that Republicans were the Liberals of their day.

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:54:54 +0000

Oooooooo, I have CDD! I can has meds naow?

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:39:33 +0000

and making random threats to strangers is a good way of being shown your spleen… just saying…

By: Danbala

Danbala — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:31:51 +0000

Alas, that doesn't seem too paranoid, considering this expressed desire for violence. However, it's apparently being hacked at with a katana that's the the risk here.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:18:02 +0000

So you’re accusing liberals of not being open to new ideas?

Logic Fail.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:10:44 +0000

Hahaha. I first read this and I thought “Hey, that’s a bunch of….wait, well maybe they have a point, I should be fair and consider the LoL creators point of view…oh crap…I am too open minded!”

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:36:35 +0000

Apologies for some noise words in there… Firefox word wrapping.

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:34:13 +0000

Not ALL fiscal conservatives are 100%
Anarcho-Capitialist (which is what ‘free
market’ implies…) in fact, all but the very
stupid, very naive, or ones employed by
very large corporations are in favour of
some restraints on the corporate (supply)
end of the ‘market’.
Citing Von Mises as a model for what is
radical liberalism is akin to citing Machiavelli
and Von Clauswitz as models of how
government works work.
As a society evolves, it’s definition of what is
‘liberal’ evolves as much as the definition of
‘governance’ evolves… once being ‘liberal’
was non-slave ownership, later it was
universal suffrage, later it was
decriminalising homosexual behaviour…
and every step of the way, the
‘conservative’ (read ‘reactionary’ ) social
forces stood against them, and every time
they have eventually fallen, usually by being told,
STFU, this is how it’s going to be…
The concepts of fiscal ‘conservatism’ and
‘liberalism’ are almost an entirely post
19th C phenomenon, as Malthus, who was
long vilified, was begun to be proved right.
For a true free market to work, in many
respects you need a large segment of
people kept in crushing poverty to keep
prices low, and not pissing off the middle
(white collar) class, where you get
radicalism and revolution formented
if you miss handle them… According to the
‘Trend analysis’ division of the MOD, the
future face of the urban terrorist is white,
middle class, and organised into flash mobs.
Financial ‘Liberalism’ is, at it’s heart, a concept by which there is ‘some’ financial’ freedoms for the ‘producer class’, without actually encouraging the ‘producer class’ to want to ‘better itself’. Financial ‘Conservatism’ actually positively wants the ‘producer class’ not to want anything, other than to slave for the greater glory of the market, on almost nothing, while having just enough money to be a consumer…
The issues of then become: So you want ‘Brave New World’ or ‘Animal Farm’ as a ‘blueprint, not a warning’…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:13:51 +0000

Actually, they could have taxed you all to penury and they still couldn’t have afforded the war without the Govt Bond shares to Russia, China, and the House of Saud… So, they did tax cuts to please the goundlings, and sold the country into hock for the next 2000 years…

By: Uncle Fester

Uncle Fester — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:11:11 +0000

I’d expect that to be on the talk networks within 12 hours of posting
“Democrats, while not only causing cancer, also want to …”

By: Danbala

Danbala — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:15:39 +0000

Whutwhut?

By: Danbala

Danbala — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:10:04 +0000

Or just … funny.