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stephen harper and barack obama

LEVELS OF FAME
You might be the Prime Minister of Canada, but you’re still a nobody when compared to Obama.

(Stephen Harper and Barack Obama)

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  1. Captain Wow says:

    censorship. You’re doing it right!

  2. Wolvie says:

    Obama only likes dictators.

  3. Dhoti says:

    And Bono still pwns both of these guys. Celebrity fail.

  4. Me says:

    Man, it must suck to be the leader of a US Ally right now…

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Why? I’d have thought you’d be pleased he’s focussing on the domestic issues…

      • PeachyKat says:

        President Obama’s “focusSing” on embryonic stem cell research instead of upfront economic and immigratiion issues, which worries me at times. Now is not the time to start a complicated and possibly moral reversal of a Bush policy.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          It was a zero sum signing, and domestic… I would think a lot of people who will actually benefit from the lifting of the embargo were pleased… and look on the bright side! It’s a use for dead babies and we know how Barry loves them dead babies!

          • PeachyKat says:

            And in the end he will answer for those souls! There are other kinds of stem cells–spinal stem cells, for example; but since embryonic stem cells are more accesible and more common, there are many who wants them. Could it save lives? Yes! A life would be sacrificed for a life, however, and negated, and it would still be a death. In the end, all who know the truth will answer.

            I do not condemn the frightened mother confused by the lies of Planned Parenthood, or some campaigners who may not full well the truth. Obama, however, is not releasing all the information, and he is using this for his and his party’s own cunning beliefs!

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Nothing like the breath of scientifically ignorant paranoia to add some pungency to the proceedings…
              Dead babies are no longer the primary source of stem cells, but please, you keep the US as a third world, demon haunted, superstitious hell hole…

          • lowly grunt says:

            I was going to ask if you really wanted to start this, Unc, but it seems I am too late. Have fun!

        • dropping in says:

          Oddly enough, when you are an intelligent, well read, well educated person who listens objectively to intelligent, well educated advisers, you can actually do more than one thing at a time. Bush’s policy was based solely on “truthi-ism”, whatever he thought in his itty bitty mind/gut combo. Not based in science or logic, or any thought to the greater good. Just his ego and his opinion. The policy led to great advancements of non-embryonic stem cell research- in some cases. But it also led to a massive set back in understanding the possibilities and limitations of what this technology may do. Get over the hyperbolic rhetoric and a petri dish of cells are somehow a human life- again the reality simply does not hold this OPINION up (the human body miscarries 75% of fertilized eggs- fetuses, human lives-whatever you want to call them within the first 12 weeks of fertilization- so god f*cks up 75% of the time if we follow the “catholic right to life” illogical logic). With that said there are limitation and ethics that need to be applied- and NIH has a long history of investing in bioethics- it is one of the top priorities of the stimulus money given to NIH- and this is a continuation of a long history. Some of the commentators for the support stem cell research side have said some horrific things about not allowing politics to stand in the way of scientific inquiry (hey Hitler was all for that!)- but they did not mean it the way it sounded- or if they did, it will not end up that way- we have bioethics conferences, nationally and internationally, and standards are set for this and other controversial techniques that are evaluated and updated regularly. Obama simply trusts a process that has, for over 60years been highly successful- not perfect, but better than “cause I think so, and I am the decider” crap of prior “leaders”. He is putting the SYSTEM back in place- rather than the individual- All the powers that everyone ignored being handed over to Bush now make many nervous in the hands of Obama- instead of going coo coo for cocoa puffs, he is acting in a responsible and thoughtful, rational manner and re-establishing the core of America- a set of ideas and a system- not an individual- if you want that I think the leader of Sudan is acting in a manner in which you might approve- one thing at a time- his thing, all the time. Bush should not have bi-passed the systems of America and science- Obama is simply reasserting them.

          • PeachyKat says:

            What are embryos? Embryos contain everything that is needed for a human life form because they come from the cross-breeding of two human parents ! Therefore, an embryo from two humans is human and should not be destroyed because it is life and in the political rhetoric has “potential” life, just like the eagle eggs that the government seems to protect so well.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Oh, go do some research… preferably not from pro-life sites, since they mostly lie…

              • PeachyKat says:

                I have gone onto Planned Parenthood’s website and onto pro-choice blogs. I honestly do see that there are people who truly do believe in their mission and their work, bit I have studied biology for years. I hope to breed horses someday, and I would never willingly destroy an embryo because you are destroying a life form just to save another life form. That is science, not morals.

                I stand by what I believe and I can see that you and others who support embryonic stem cell research believe deeply also, but I don’t like that Pres. Obama isn’t releasing much information after the leak. On CNN, Wolf Blitzer (I believe) gave a few basic facts and said “this was leaked, we can’t say much more.” If I were president, I’d at least say if or if I wasn’t working on something, but it was only through the grapevine.

                Pro-choice sites don’t lie, either. We show mothers the ultrasounds and stages of life and explain the abortion processes. We talk about the science behind stem cell research (if you go through American Life League approved sources_.There are some Christian sites that get ‘fluffy’ but can be picked out/

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  No, they lie… tell untruths about numerous things… but now I know what your beef is, and that you are actually as ignorant as you seem, then I really have little time to waste so I’ll cut to the chase
                  [Nelson Muntz]
                  **Points**
                  ahhh-HAAAA
                  [/Nelson Muntz]

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  oh, and the ‘secret’ signing was in front of the press pack yesterday.
                  If that’s US hush-hush stuff, then I think Barry definately screwed the pooch…
                  But you were claiming not to misrepresent things…
                  Weasel-wording pap!

                • So women are destroying human life every month. I knew women were evil… Hence the attraction, I suppose.

                  Let me put it this way. The embryo is a bit of human genetic material. It isn’t a full human being, it is a part of one. Not even a finger. These cells can be used to bring Alzheimer’s victims back from the hell they are in. I am so glad you are willing to sacrifice these once productive human lives for the mass of cells in the petri dish.

                  Your righteous indignation disturbs me when you are standing on the block of your own hypocrisy. Your stance requires a sacrifice just as much as ours does. By your own words, we are letting a life die so that another MIGHT live. In this case, the life is a person already here while you are worried about a mass of cells that won’t even go anywhere.

                  Wow, just fu(king wow…

                  • froofrou says:

                    From what I understand about stem cell research, aren’t adult stem cells bringing us basically the same results as using embryonic ones? I’ll have to look that back up, but I seem to recall hearing that recently.

                    • Then it could boil down to a supply and demand issue. I haven’t checked into it in a while. I was more interested in the hypocrisy of the moral debate in stem cell research. A “life” is sacrificed either way, period. Just in one stance, the pile of cellular goo isn’t a life, it is cellular goo.

                      • argv says:

                        As I recall, one of the issues in favor of non-embryonic stem cells is that embryonic stems are hard to come by. They’re not exactly handing them out in your local Wal-Mart. This makes them impractical for mass-produced treatments.

                        Of course, we’re still talking about research, and there’s more than enough embryos to go around for that, provided you can keep the cultists at bay.

                    • rhorho says:

                      [LINK] More research is needed, but at the moment,
                      it looks like adult stem cells may be the ticket.

                      • FaileV says:

                        even if that’s the case, cutting off research to the alternative isn’t a very good idea, at least when you can do the research you have proof it isn’t as good an option

                        • rhorho says:

                          [LINK]

                          Here’s another article about the need for
                          further research. Japan is making strides
                          in the field. We may not catch up, given
                          our eight year disadvantage. Oh, well–
                          We probably would have outsourced
                          it all, anyway.

                          *sigh*

                        • rhorho says:

                          Oh, certainly I agree. That’s why I wrote
                          “more research is needed.”

                          I have been trying to post another link, but
                          suffice to say that many sources are calling
                          for more research. Early screw-ups don’t
                          make the case, of course. I’m sorry if that
                          wasn’t clear.

                          BTW, Unc notes the Japanese progress in the
                          field that has been announced recently. We
                          may never make up the lost ground caused
                          by the eight year delay.

                        • rhorho says:

                          There’s my lost post…

                          Now how did that happen?

                          *sniffs drink* Hmmm.

                        • FaileV says:

                          i was under the impression we’d made great strides in the veterinarianfield. they are treating hip displasia (sp?) in dogs by using their fat cells and enguineering them to be stem cells. So maybe we could make up some time applying it to humans a bit.

                    • dropping in says:

                      NO, they are not. They ARE bringing SOME of the same things, and a few unique discoveries to the table (the silver lining of the Bush policy is the advances made in this arena that I think would not have been explored otherwise). They are not able to do all that embryonic stem cells have already been shown to have potential for. FYI, for anyone willing to hear rational thoughts on this issue, we destroy hundreds of thousands of embryos as part of the invitro fertilization industry in America every year- once these embryo’s were put to good use, THEN the Anti-Choice brigade got up in arms. It was due to this insanity that I actually started to investigate SCIENCE- not ANYTHING on pro-life or pro-choice site- actual peer reviewed journal articles and became a Pro-Choice person instead of neutral- I was raised Catholic, and I have boundaries regarding abortion- but the rhetoric proved to be lies told to support beliefs, not reality from what I found- so there you go.

                • Czernobog says:

                  What they have in those petri dishes aren’t embryos, they’re blastocysts.
                  Growths hat under a certain set of circumstances have a small chance oof becoming embryos. Someone who’s studied biology ought to know that.

            • The Steve says:

              Eagles are endangered, which is the only reason the eggs are protected.

              Humans are not.

            • :P says:

              i would not consider it a human until it is grown enough to have its own blood flowing through its veins

              • FaileV says:

                i usually wait until it has a brain enough that it could be a conscious entity

              • froofrou says:

                Considering that my 3 week old fetus (zygote?) had a heartbeat when we saw it on the sonogram, I’d say you might want to rethink that line of thought if you’re pro-choice.

                • FaileV says:

                  it’s not a bad line of thought in the case of stem cell research with cells made in a lab. they would never be at the point of a zygote. but that’s neither here nor there really.

                  • froofrou says:

                    I understand that, but the blanket statement ‘it’s not human until blood runs through its veins’ is misleading, wrong, and stupid :-)

                    • FaileV says:

                      it leads to a very interesting trans human question. Would someone with a fully mechanical body still be human? by the blood question, no, by the brain question yes. I am fairly sure by the time a brain has been made miscarraiges and such have been reduced dramtically

                • That’s really kinda awesome to see, isn’t it, froo? :-)

              • death by kewt says:

                FYI: The fetus “always” has it’s own blood supply; that’s how HIV positive mothers can have HIV negative babies if their blood doesn’t mix at birth.
                -
                The mother’s circulatory system is not continuous with the fetus’s. Blood does not normally flow from the mother to the fetus and back; only materials carried in the blood are exchanged. Therefore, maternal blood cells such as B lymphocytes are not normally transferred to the fetus, although the antibodies produced by B lymphocytes do cross the placenta.…
                -
                Source: Ask a Scientist
                -
                /science geek off again :)

                • death by kewt says:

                  Crap! *its

                  • viking gal says:

                    Interestingly enough, there are some blood cells from the baby which do make it into the mother’s blood stream–the barrier isn’t 100% between the two. You can find fetal cells in the mom’s blood 10 YEARS later!
                    I actually find that fact a little creepy…
                    –Greetings to the fellow science geek above!

                    • death by kewt says:

                      Actually, I HAVE heard that happens, but I heard it can have devastating effects on both the mother and the fetus.
                      I’ll have to do some more reading about the non-lethal infiltration.
                      Thanks, viking gal!
                      -
                      It is known that fetal cells occasionally enter the maternal circulatory system, because the result is a documented medical tragedy. In cases where the fetus has the red blood cell D antigen of the Rh group (that is, the fetus is Rh positive) and the mother does not (that is, she is Rh negative), the entry of fetal blood cells into the mother’s blood will cause an immune response against the antigen. The mother will produce antibodies against the D antigen, and these will cross the placenta and start destroying the fetal red blood cells, a condition called hemolytic disease of the newborn. Because of advances in medical knowledge and diagnostic tools, this condition is largely preventable and curable.
                      -
                      Source: Howard Hughes Medical Institute

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Damn fine post… wasted on this mob, but it’s a good one… reasoned, coherent, and level headed…

            • pittypat says:

              I agree, great post, although the stats I think are a bit off.
              Overall risk of miscarriage is generally considered to be up to 25 percent of pregnancies. Among miscarriages, up to 75 percent are “chemical pregnancies,” that is, lost before implantation; often not sensed as a pregnancy at all. If anyone wants a cite I’ll look it up, but these numbers are all over the place.

          • Mmm, can you feel the Wang tonight? Cuz it can feel you…

            Good thing we have Gene HackMan in case somebody eats so many stemcells that they become an evil Superman…

            Hmm, must come up with a Wanganite element for a comic book now.

        • rhorho says:

          “Now is not the time to start a complicated and possibly moral reversal of a Bush policy.”

          I’m a big fan of Theatre of the Absurd. Thanks!!

        • copernilleo says:

          I like the part where you say it’s a “possibly moral reversal” of the policy. :)

      • Me says:

        This has nothing to do with domestic issues and everything to do with his snubbing of our greatest allies (PM Brown, for example) and wanting to open up ‘dialog’ with terrorists.
        Nice strawman with the stem cells, though.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          TBH, the UK is just one of 190 other countries vying for attention. It was less a ‘snub’ and more that there was nothing that needed saying and old Gordie wanted a PR coup for home, where he’s far from popular…
          The sooner UK Gov get the idea of a ‘special relationship’ out of its policy making the happier I’ll be…

  5. Czernobog says:

    You can see he’s a baller. Hand in the face – you’re doing it right.

  6. rhorho says:

    You people don’t get it. The entire time Obama’s hand was there, Prime Minister Harper was not attacked by any of those vicious Canada Geese.

  7. colonelpopcorn says:

    Citizens of America, This is Obama’s foreign policy at work.

  8. Lilith says:

    *lulz* Great shot! Great caption!

  9. Roger says:

    Obama = Fail

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Care to qualify, or just crap bombing?

      • lowly grunt says:

        The latter. Or it is a Yuk Yuk. Sorta hard to tell. Sometimes, the dive bomb may have had a humorous intention, but with such a short statement, there is doubt.

        • rhorho says:

          I found the brevity of the stupid to be the only redeeming quality.

          I was thinking Enfant Provacateur on this one.

    • The Steve says:

      Looks like a photographer fail to me….

    • penguin_man says:

      He would of loss if he was white because very few of the blacks would of voted. This is how it is in this neighborhood, blacks fk’ing everything up and the few whites that fallow them.

      Btw, I was looking at a chart in health on how many people reported STDs and 80% of them were black in my area and there are more whites then blacks.

      • Suggestion: As it appears from your post that you are enrolled in a school of some kind, pay attention in English class.

      • FaileV says:

        *lost, follow, than

        Saying that things would be different if he were white leads into a butterfly effect. Yes it’s skin tone but there is a culture associated with it. I can say that my life would be much different if i were black, not because i view one as better or not, but it is a different cultural experience that shapes a different mental model.

        Now please return to you high school classwork. it’s apparent that you have been skipping english classes.

  10. Tocath says:

    Gift to Gordon Brown: 25 dvd movies to watch on the flight back to London.
    Gift to Stephen Harper: Talk to the hand Stephen.

    Fantastic!

    • Uncle Fester says:

      This is a problem how?

    • Uncle Fester says:

      and as a reminder, some of us were more pissed about a certain someone winking at Her Majesty…

      • Dhoti says:

        Hint — the rest of the world doesn’t give a shit about the feelings of the inbred cousins you keep around to remind you of Empire. (Sure, most of the Commonwealth *says* they care, but really they just pity you and don’t want to hurt your feelings.)

        • While I do love to comment about the absurdity of a monarchy in the modern times, I find that having it come from you is like hearing financial advice from a man living in a box with his finger up his own @ss at the time of the consultation.

          So no, you ruined what fun this post could have been with your prior stance of having no balls when asked to cite your sources…

        • eddiepscetti says:

          For what it’s worth, I don’t care about the monarchy either. But, I do appreciate that I get the Queen’s birthday off paid, and salute her good health every year!

    • Czernobog says:

      Am I the only one who can hear/read the name Gordon Brown without thinking “through my mind she runs, through distant lands, takes both my hands, never a frown…”

  11. Not_you says:

    “Prime Minister” is capitalized – protocol fail.

  12. Ganoush says:

    As a Canadian I do find this funny, but having said that, this is more of a poke at Americans,
    Politics shouldn’t be a popularity contest,
    Just because the American media is obsessed with making money, by turning politicians into celebrities doesn’t mean the American leader is “more important” he is just more well known

    BTW Fester, buddeh, how about an intelligent reply now, eh?

  13. NO_BAMA says:

    Funny how the mindless Obama worshipers seem to have time to spend all day on sites like this proving what idiots they are, how much is your monthly welfare take? If people who leach off the government weren’t allowed to vote (and they certainly shouldn’t be) we wouldn’t be stuck with this clown and once he reaches his goal of 50%+ deadbeats, the communist dream will come true.

  14. durr says:

    Best picture of Stephen Harper ever. Now if Obama would just take two steps to the right, perfect.

  15. suicide_blonde says:

    I realize the horse is quite dead, and yet I can’t stop myself from beating it…hopefully the horse was the immoral bi-product of equestrian cloning anyway.

    @Peachy: I’m very confused why you keep referring to Planned Parenthood in your inane tirades against stem-cell research. The embryos used to perform stem-cell research are not aborted fetuses, they are leftover embryos donated by families who have had embryos created for invitro fertilization. These embryos, unused, would left frozen or discarded – a complete waste of life. Oddly, one doesn’t see throngs of outraged embryo defenders outside of fertility clinics the way that one does outside of abortion clinics.

    Also, it is quite a stretch to imply that stem-cell research for the purpose of curing deadly and debilitating diseases will lead to human cloning. Not that you seem to be swayed much by facts, but President Obama has stated that “we will ensure that our government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction. It is dangerous, profoundly wrong, and has no place in our society or any society.”

    PS – and I could be off base here, but I’m pretty sure that Uncle Fester mentioned Samuel Beckett because your posts are absurd, not because you are Beckett’s moral or intellectual equivalent.

  16. Anniee451 says:

    Is the caption supposed to be funny?

  17. :P says:

    does any one else think that Steven Harper looks like he a robot?

    • DasSovietCanuck says:

      You mean he’s not?

      Oh dear God, my entire worldview has been shattered… Martin lost to a HUMAN!!!

      *goes over to corner to weep*

  18. Nife says:

    Yeah so dead babies, God and general religious fights aside, YAY our Prime Minster was on here (kinda…sorta?)

    Woot Canada!

  19. cass says:

    Thank you Mr. President for hiding our PM from view. Would you like his job? You can have it. PLEASE take it!!!!!

  20. Bacondog says:

    Dear Mr Obama,… please do all you can to obscure and keep our PM from showing his face in public again.

  21. L says:

    Obama. He’s a very nice fellow, having the kindness to block the stupidest Canadian from speaking on television, and making the rest of us look like idiots.

    Smooth move, Mr. Prez.

    Maybe when Canada gets another Trudeau…
    Speaking of which, no American president compares to that guy.

  22. CreyZee says:

    ha! caption fail. That’s no the Prime Minister of Canada, it’s the PM of Australia, Kevin Rudd

  23. As a Canadian, Harper’s a nobody compared with ANYONE in our borders.

  24. meow says:

    Aww you forgot to draw an analogy to members of the republican base being inbred hicks.

  25. Uncle Fester says:

    They’re not all… some are decent human beings… it’s just that
    Dhoti fails on the ‘decent human being’ score. Scores highly on the loud mouthed idiot scale, who seems never to establish anything other than his own, stultifying ignorance… Not sure which is worse, the fact he can vote or the fact he may breed…

  26. Dhoti says:

    I know, right? I thought that was an obvious setup too.

  27. Uncle Fester says:

    That’s because you’re trite, you twit…

  28. Dhoti says:

    That’s actually really funny, coming from the guy who found a way to work a mention to George Bush into a completely unrelated topic…

  29. Uncle Fester says:

    More butt hurt whining… you want social faux pas, then the Bush family figures large… But then you’re just upset since the won’t let you eat the bits from the bottom of the donut fryer… You really should be better with the mop…

  30. Thanks, TheSteve…now I have this [link] stuck in my head.

  31. ubr says:

    “creatures of unnatural proportions”? wtf are you on about? the cells you’re referring to do not even make it out of the laboratory… right now abortion is legal in the US and we’re discussing embryos? if you really had a bone to pick with anyone it’s with the supreme court…

  32. rhorho says:

    LOL–Jinx on you and Unc, and I was thinking the same
    thing before I checked your links!

    GMTA!! ;-)

  33. The Steve says:

    Win! Diss, I hoped I knew what that was going to be before I even clicked the link…in fact I kept thinking about that song as I was typing my reply.

    Well done Diss. Well done.

  34. Uncle Fester says:

    The Frankenstein canard…

  35. Personally, I think having an extra set of arms would be awesome.

  36. The Steve says:

    “I don’t want nature tampered with.”

    Do you take birth control, antibiotics, allergy medication, have you been vaccinated against measles, polio, etc.?

    You’re tampering with nature.

    If you think that experimenting with stem cells is going to bring about the T-virus and a zombie apocalypse, fine. I can understand your concern, vote NO on gun control!

  37. rhorho says:

    You expressed an interest in horse breeding, then
    pitch a fit because we’re being “unnatural.” If you
    put your money where your mouth is, you wouldn’t
    be so quick to play god with who makes babies
    with whom, now would you?

    Set the horses free, and let them decide how to
    breed. Fences and breeding aren’t natural!!!

    (See what I did there?)

  38. Jane St.Clair says:

    Why isn’t my army of clones growing the extra limbs I need to make this possible?!

  39. keshet says:

    When I’m carrying something with both hands I frequently think it would be nice to have a spare arm, but then I realize that I’d probably just be carrying something in it and be wishing for another.

  40. Aw, we got the ESPN going! :-)

  41. FaileV says:

    the thing i don’t get is…we’ve tested on humans before, full grown adults. isn’t it unnatural to give a man a prosthetic and allow his mind to reprogram itself so he can have a working arm again? experimental surgery is an experiment on a person, shall we stop all of that as well?
    I just can’t understand that sentiment. it makes me wonder how much they care about what is natural if they needed a cure, like a pace maker, or a donated heart or something. that’s a life for a life, when you need a heart, kidney, or liver will you be decrying the unnatural?

  42. Jane St.Clair says:

    Most pro-lifers only care about life when it’s in the womb. After that, all bets are off.

  43. Carlin: They want live babies so they can make dead soldiers…

  44. rhorho says:

    [LINK] The Maestro on the subject

  45. Uncle Fester says:

    @Jane
    Dunno how much of an SF fan you are, but try and find a book called ‘The Death Guard’ by Philip George Chadwick.
    As far as I know, it was only published the once, in the 1990s, having been lost for over 50 years due to the Blitz destroying the first print run
    It’s not dated ‘well’ but even so, it’s an interesting read…

  46. Uncle Fester says:

    BTW, it’s so obscure that even Wiki has only indirect mentions of the book

  47. rhorho says:

    [LINK] Amazon

    Pricey book: $166 for a new paperback?

  48. Jane St.Clair says:

    Ouch! I’m always on for good recommendations, but that might be outside my current budget. I will write it down and leave it for my mother’s rare book Christmas list for Alyssa that we do every year.

  49. Well, they also had a couple of used copies at about $26 but it definietely seems to be a rare book!

  50. Jane St.Clair says:

    Hell, the majority of food one can get in the supermarket has so many unnatural chemicals in it. Even if you’re buying veggies and all natural ingredients the farmers use pesticides. So unless she’s a total organic vegan hippie I’d wager she does something against nature every day. It was nothing but a pat answer to hid the fact that she’s basing her opinion on religion.

  51. pittypat says:

    I for one don’t want anyone telling *me* I can’t breed with my horse!

  52. *runs over in a huff after filming Suicide Blonde, Jane, and the President and his bodyguards*

    Dammit, so many filming opportunities. Okay… *catches breath*

    Ready when you are for your um…. Close up.

  53. pittypat says:

    Norma’s dream of performing for the cameras has in an unexpected way come true for her.

  54. *catches the touching story of a Pittypat and her horse on film. Sells to internet crowd and sends Pittypat her 50% cut.*

  55. pittypat says:

    50% cut? Nope, no way, I want the whole damn foreskin thank you very much.

  56. FaileV says:

    fantastic, you win an internet for being willing to do more logical research

  57. PeachyKat says:

    Thank David Attenborough, he taught me to start believing in science. :)

  58. Uncle Fester says:

    He gets death threats from Fundies… it’s sad really…

  59. Uncle Fester says:

    Oh, and the Japanese have just (past 24 hours according to NHK International) announced that they’ve perfected a method of getting stem cells from skin of patients, so there is no ‘embryo’ in ‘embryonic stem cells’ – just in the name. It’s like serotonin is called a ‘neuropetide’ even though it’s now known to be used more in the Gastro-intestinal tract than it is the brain, since it was first identified in the brain as an emotion related neuro-transmitter.

  60. ubr says:

    “i don’t want nature tampered with”… wtf does that even mean? nature is one of the most diabolical systems in the history of the world… i think it will be just fine without you standing up for it…
    .
    btw, did you know that using anything made with synthetics is tampering with nature? most of the electricity in nevada and southern california comes from tampering with nature… did you know that genetic mutations occur on a daily basis?
    .
    you’ve either read too much scifi, or not enough…

  61. rhorho says:

    on a slippery slope

  62. FaileV says:

    possibly with some gamma radiation effects

  63. :P says:

    *Hugs Uncle Fester*

    looks like you need that

    *jumps into a tub of boiling bleach*

    almost clean

  64. keshet says:

    Add me to the GMTA list, please!

  65. Uncle Fester says:

    Here, have a Brillo Pad

  66. PeachyKat says:

    That’s pretty clever. Science advances every day, and here I thought my skin was just that stuff that kept my guts in and made my bathroom gross and provided hours of fascination with slides under my microscope. (Thank you, Nasco)


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