THE OPPRESSED UPPER CLASS
Only receives a 20 million dollar severance package
(Former GM Exec Rick Wagoner)
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Aw, do you want me to fix you some soup?
Is it just me or does he look just like this lolcat?
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Ha! totally.
Is it just me, or does he look exactly like this lolcat?
(you’ll have to add the aitchteeteeteepeecolon part, it got eaten)
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So sorry. I wish this site had an “oops, take back my last comment” option.
Twenty MILLION?
This political commentary isn’t even funny…
But you, in contrast, …
Really : chicken feed in these days of a BILLION here or a TRILLION there…
This goes to ONE MAN.
Hmmm….. you never read the Hollywood trades, do ya?
but…. but…. nobody told him/her to hate hollywood types that get paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!
Baa….. baaa…… baaaaaaaaaaaaaa……………….
At least the Hollywood types provide entertainment…which is more than I can say for this lol.
I wouldn’t call what hollywood does these days “entertainment”
Well, maybe you’re difficult to entertain, or maybe you haven’t seen Anchorman.
Anchorman was ok, but I was expecting more from it somehow.
Hoping for more of a send-up of the 70 newscasting era….
Me too. I think it might be one of those movies that’s funnier with each viewing though–I hated Talladega Nights (or Knights?) the first time I saw it and now it’s one of my favorite Ferrell movies.
And by the way, I don’t think actors deserve 20 million a movie but it doesn’t bother me that much because the producers make so much more off of them.
WHAT?!?!?! Anchorman is HILARIOUS. Go watch it again, several times. Also, try smoking pot at the same time.
Well, genius, this could be because while they may make easy targets for being weird and ridiculous in their own right, the Hollywood people who get paid ridiculous sums of money don’t manage to take down WHOLE F**KING ECONOMIC SECTORS when they f**k up and one of their movies tanks…
I find myself liking you more and more…
Word to your mother.
Although I am still upset about The Happening…it was almost as painful as the global economic crisis. M. Knight Shamalamadingdong should be impeached! Or have his SAG card revoked, at the very least.
what “economic sector” did he “take down”, exactly?
He failed to spin hay into gold.
Hardly a crime.
You’re right, his failure is hardly a crime, but then he isn’t being arrested, detained or prosecuted for failing… just like any normal person, he is merely being FIRED for it. Even when the writing was on the wall about which way oil prices and consumer preferences were beginning to trend as a result, this guy opted to “stay the course” with regards to things like fuel economy and other concerns and as a result, Gm took arguably the hardest hit of the Big 3. I don’t know about you, but where i work, if i were to make enough bad decisions, i’d be out on my ass too and it would happen well before i could ever put the organization in jeopardy of complete financial ruin. And the ruin of the American auto industry will have significant fallout throughout the over all manufacturing sector of our economy, at least insofar as those components and ancillary parts and accessories which have not already been outsourced to Mexico and overseas, but now, hey, even those folks are kinda looking screwed now too. This guy was and is an Epic FAIL, if that does not merit a pink slip, i don’t know what does.
*just fricking CLAPS*
*claps too*
ya we should have voted mccain
then he would have gotten 80!…billion!
um….. based on…?
this comment makes no sense, my guess is that McCain would have done the exact thing
The libs steal your freedom as they distract you with class envy. Enjoy.
The conservatives steal your freedom as they distract you with rage at the terrorists.
Same difference.
BTW, don’t expect an answer… he doesn’t… he just crap bombs…
yeah, it takes a Real Man to have so insignificant a life that he spends it posting meaningless comments all day
If I see a ‘Real Man’ I’ll let him know, sweet cheeks…
Is that anything like a Real Doll for women?
just with interchangeable parts… cut and uncut
You can get the Herpes version for a ribbed experience…
It’s like special relativity…. as Fester posts faster, he gets more boring.
Says Captain One-Joke… go on, tell us your joke again…
You’re both right. I’m guessing neither of you is smart enough to realize that, though. One likes Bushmonkey, the other likes Obamamonkey.
Dropulus – the one joke man…
And the only one who understands the punchline. Must be hell being the only one laughing at a joke (unless he’s looking in the mirror, then it’s a shared understanding.)
yawn…. your lame attempts at insults start out tedious and then go downhill..
I can’t help it if you’re unfunny and very, very, very, stupid…
You have one joke. That’s it. And you tell it over, and over, and over…That’s not a sense of humour, that’s a form of social retardation…
how many times a day do you post this drivel?
About the same as Dropulus does the ‘chimp’ joke… only my content varies more…
So, you Drop’s mother, or his catamite?
As opposed to the bazillions of times GWB was called/compared to a chimp. Yes, social retardation, that’s it.
GWB does look like a chimp. Best you can say for Obama is Ahkenaten…
But then I’m wasting bandwidth on a cretin with ‘troll’ in his name…
Thats right, so buzz off.
Erm, no… lets not… lets call you a cretin again…
cretin… there… doesn’t that feel just so good, being identified as a cretin?
After all
It’s what you are
A big, hairy, cretin…
Creh-tin
Doesn’t bother me.
I thought you’d be pleased you’d be recognised for your talent…
Cretin suits you so much better…
Yes, you have pleased me. Keep it up.
Calling you a cretin? I’ll do that with pleasure, arse wipe…
Thank you sir, may I have another?
No.
the Government steals your freedom under the guise of income tax withholding
That I agree with
Yes, and people who over-withhold think it’s just dandy that they’re
getting a refund, like it’s free money.
the beauty of ignorance and the “dumbing down of America”
If it weren’t so easy to do it would be more fun.
Eh, I don’t consider it free money but it is nice to have a big wad of cash at once. Granted, the same effect could be gained by rigorous savings but eh, claiming nothing on my taxes and then getting max back with my two sons is easier to do with how my spending habits are.
Then again, there is a reason that even as Master of the household, Lynn is still in charge of the money brought in. She is better at the math and more patient. Keeps me humble, which is helpful as a dominant. /babbling
I will also admit to having used withholding as the Financially Undisciplined Person’s Savings Plan. That said, I’m not under any illusions as to whose money I’m getting back.
Also helps for justification. Sure I could have nearly a hundred bucks more each check but I can’t justify spending some of that on leisure spending like games and whatnot. Just too many bills. However, if I get over 4k at once, I can justify a few extras for myself and the family and still get a high number of bills paid and debts caught up.
And you’re right, I never forget whose money that is.
I see you still have your head up your arse. The “libs” (ever notice how some conservatives say “liberal” like they would “n*gger”? Coincidence? I think not… anyway, where was I…)
The “libs” are stealing my freedom to… what, exactly? Make bazillions of dollars without any kind of accountability? Why, those bastards…!
Meanwhile, you were perfectly content to drop trou and grab ankles for Bush, and let him listen to your communications and search your house on his whim, in the name of the holy War on Terra.
You disgust me.
I think I saw Wolvie yesterday! I was following a car home from work with a bumpresticker that read: “I’ll keep my guns and money…you can keep the CHANGE”…it also had a “My redneck son beat up your honor student” sticker…
Ugh… another ignorant defender of the status quo. The conservative response to Obama’s moves can be summed up as “Oh no, the wealthy are in danger! Defend them at all costs!” Why they’re so quick to defend their positions as dogs begging scraps from their masters’ tables is beyond me… maybe they’re afraid that without said masters, there will be no scraps to beg.
Did you catch what John Boehner was saying yesterday…(paraphrasing) he talked about how shameful it was that Government would have a role in getting rid of a CEO and that Governement should not have a role at all in Private Industry…yet he’s been one of the leaders on the “crush the UAW” charge…so, it’s not ok for the government to have a say on the white-collar worker, but it’s ok for the government to have a say on the blue-collar worker?! It never ends…
um, “crush the UAW”, Gracie?
Please demonstrate your silly claim.
You mean like you do?
Do you watch/read the news? Or do you limit yourself to Fox…
while huffing lighter fluid…
Would make it more bearable…
it would make Fox more reasonable…
heh. could you be any more knee-jerk?
Anyone who questions your assumptions must watch Fox.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
No, it’s more down to observation. Usually anyone that stultifyingly boring and ill informed can only have one source of information. Hell, you barely say anything worth while anyway… only redeeming feature is that mostly it’s grammatically correct.
Funny how you can’t justify the comment in question, you simply spew unimpressive insults.
The ‘insult’ was the justification, Reich Boy… usually people who spew single sound bites and are as just fence post dumb as you are only read two blogs and watch Fox…
John Boehner has tried to limit the contracts of the UAW to match the contracts of foreign auto workers…if you’d like a cite, Google it for yourself…
Are you mad?
He only goes to two blogs for his information and that’s all he needs
sorry… nothing about “crushing” the UAW… just restructuring…. you know, like the Obama admin is making noises about?
*sarcasm* But we are the great US of A!!! It is not patriotic to look at what them darn foreigners are doing! We do things the right way here all the time! *sarcasm*
considering that FOX is known for appropriating Republican Party talking points and presenting them as their own editorial content, it’s not all that much of a knee-jerk reaction to make that assumption.
Have a link, though I bet you won’t be arsed to read it.
LMAO!! When I opened the link I was going, “WTF?!?”
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We need more of those.. well done!
LMGTFY.com, my gift to you. I’d put a bow on it if I could. Use it in good health.
Brilliant.. I’ve made it a favorite and will plan on using it in the future. Thanks heaps for that Slan!
My favorite internet all day! Brilliant!!
But the liberals refer to “cons”, “repugs”, “rethugs”, with sweetness and light? Ok…..
I’ve never heard any of those terms before…and I’m a liberal. But then I don’t like hate radio of any form!
I’ve seen them on here before.
Guess I wasn’t paying attention. But then I don’t like that kind of speech from either side.
Me neither.
Not real common around here, but on other sites it’s par for the course. I usually use “pubs”, and sometimes “cons”, but that’s about it.
Some of the hits from around the net:
Rethuglicans
Democraps
Repiglicans
Demonrats
The cons are usually just as happy to apply the term “Liberal” as invective, basically equating it with the racial slur I mentioned above.
…and you know all of them and their intentions? Just sayin’
Reference my original post: I said “some”. Your troll-fu is weak.
In your reply to me above you said, and I quote, “The cons”. That is what I was refering to. But if you say you already qualified that with your original post I will buy it. As a troll, you must always err on the side of caution with these things…
I’ve seen them, from both sides here (and I have even tossed a few out my self.) It doesn’t bother me to be called a repug, rethug, et al. But I do bristle at being called a neo-con.
Ooh, forgot “moonbat” (left) and “wingnut” (right). Can’t neglect the classics.
Moonbat.. reminds of years ago when Jerry Brown was Governor of California. They used to call him Governor Moonbeam because some of his ideas were just to far out there.
Wan’t he also a hippie? I know he was attached to Linda Rondstadt for a while (not that THAT makes him a hippie)…but the whole California music scene thing…
I think he was a hippie without being a hippie, if you know what I mean. His dad was a previous governor so he probably had to think about bringing a bad reputation to the family name. I think he also supported NORML, but I don’t know for sure.
I’ve never seen the word ‘bristle’ in a way that gives it a sub-text that makes ‘jihad’ or ‘vendetta’ seem like ‘passim grudge’
I tried to find references to ‘passim grudge’ and couln’t find anything. Can you give me a hint for $1?
Eds, “passim” is Latin, means: throughout or frequently; here and there. Used in textual annotation to indicate that something, such as a word or passage, occurs frequently in the work cited.
Thanks diss!
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@Fester: Would get my hackles up be more appropriate?
It should have read ‘passing’
It works either way….with the typo, it would be a frequently occuring grudge, I guess!
But only when Anniee and Dohti show up..
Neo-cons, I have heard of….those, not so much.
Explain yourself, Wolvie. Otherwise you’re just blowing smoke. Some citations would be nice too.
To paraphrase what you guys say when I start talking about Fourth Amendment rights: who do you know that’s actually had their rights taken away?
I can’t believe I’m coming to Rick Wagoner’s defense here. *sigh* Actually, it’s not a severance package; it’s his pension. Yes, it’s a lot of money; it’s being paid out over a 5 year period. It’s not a bonus; it’s not inducement to leave…and he’s been with GM for 32 years. In addition, if GM files for bankruptcy soon (as is seeming increasingly likely) he’s not likely to see much of it.
The government plan (as I read it in the WSJ yesterday) would “scrub” a lot of GM’s debts. Anything unsecured debt might as well be written off, and I’m thinking that any UAW retirees will probably want to start practicing saying “Welcome to Wal-Mart.” I wouldn’t mind seeing some former CEO’s in that job, actually…
I wouldn’t mind either. I’m sure there are plenty of them that need reminding on the word “humility”.
From the CEO’s dictionary:
Humility: (n) A trait becoming of servants and inferiors.
Lol…ask Bernie Madoff how humble he feels right now…I’m betting he doesn’t…the “humble gene” isn’t in the normal CEO makeup, methinks.
Well, actually I know two CEO’s. Neither run huge companies, more on the moderate size. And both are pretty humble, nice guys.
Keep hope alive!!
No, not all CEO’s are evil…but the vast majority?
*sigh* There is a reply coming that is currently being reviewed by the censors because I made good use of the f-bomb. It has an inappropriate apostrophe usage. My deepest apologies.
Perhaps not.. I forget what I said now.
Was it “fvck the stupid censors?”
Something like that, yeah.
It’s horrible that these people, who were so grossly self-serving and incompetent that they created this mess, will receive overinflated severance packages, pensions, “golden parachutes” etc. But other people, who worked for these companies but weren’t involved, are getting swept into the quagmire too.
I read a letter from a man who worked at AIG in a different division from the mortgage insurance area, and he did not draw a salary this year but was promised a bonus if he stayed on. Now he won’t get the bonus, and resigned. Granted, I’m sure his bonus was some obscene amount of money that was probably not fitting, but he was told he would get something, and since he didn’t help cause this depression he shouldn’t be penalized the same as those that did.
So, I kinda have to agree with dissimilitude. I don’t know a lot about Rick Wagoner, and $20mil is an incomprehensible amount of money to give someone who obviously did a poor job, but after 30+ years, it should be expected that he get something.
Well, I’m not saying it’s a reasonable pension. I’m also not saying Wagoner deserves that much. I’m saying that there’s a distinction between a pension and a severance package.
Although if you have a $20mil pension, do you REALLY need a severance package?
Well, I wouldn’t think so.
I just think the caption would be better if it was accurate.
Very true…although, I’d like to know I had a $20mil pension waiting…it’d make getting $hitcanned from my job a bit more pallatable.
*starts looking back on career choices*
Sigh……
Hell, if I had a $20mil pension they wouldn’t have to fire me….I’d have been otu of there years ago.
Amen to that!
… *is already depressed*
Success isn’t the size of your salary. It is whether you like what you do for a living, and whether you can live on what you make.
Well, you don’t have to rub it in….
Took the words out of my mouth… Though I am managing to live on what I make, barely. Ugh.
I’m barely scraping by with unemployment.. I bet the CEO got a new helicopter with my salary.. and the other peeps they severanced…
OK charro, YOUR CEO needs to get kicked in the nuts! Repeatedly.
Thanks, I think so too.
Love what i do…would just like to retire in comfort.
In bed with assorted prizes…
Only if you’re the prize, Dear…
Some of us managed that
I would complain about salt in the wound but I would hate to intrude on your merriment…
Have some vinegar, too… I’m not that old, I just started early…
… Ouch, that burns.
I also parlayed a miss sold mortgage plan into a healthy profit…
T_T
Make the bad man stop!
I’m not that old
.
*Makes “disbelief” face*
Compared to you, I’m older than God…
Compared to me, you’re just older than Moses.
I’m turning 40 this month…ugggghhh
Pfft, that is younger than the cougar who I referenced earlier. She’s still got it and I bet you do too.
@DWN: Oh, I’ve still got it…just too old to remember how to use it
Must… Resist… Urge… To state offer of retutoring… Must… Shatner… Speech patterns…
*gesticulates dramatically with face showing tons of internal conflict*
@MG: Please. You’re just hitting your prime years.
Methuselah? Is that you?
The people at AIG who gave back their bonuses did so voluntarily. AIG could not deny anyone a bonus who was contractually obliged to receive it, unless that person volunteered to give it back or forgoe it.
If the person you’re speaking of “was promised” a bonus, but didn’t get a contract to that effect, then he has no-one to blame but himself.
Carbonbased: I think the AIG exec you are thinking of is Jake DeSantis. [link]
He got a bonus, but he resigned and gave it to charity because of all the public outrage. Apparently, he was in a division other than the one that screwed everything up and feels unjustly screwed over, which he may well have been.
Along with all the minions who are getting death threats and picketers in their yards because they simply work for the wrong company…
I found that very sad and disturbing. But unfortunately too many people in this country have become self-serving and have no concern for anyone else unless they can help them out.
If they didn’t pay the bonuses AIG would have been sued. And since there was a contract they probably would have lost the lawsuit and had to pay the bonuses anyway *AND* legal fees.
*sigh* what happened to critical thinking in this country.
“and he’s been with GM for 32 years.”
Like the comedian says, “I want to thank my wife for five blissful years of marriage… and the other 27 years too!”
I’m not defending Wagoner either but it is important, IMO, to remember that his “salary” was only $1/year.
For the “great job” he is doing with GM (especially being with them for 32 years) it seems to me that his salary this year is still too large.
… and how could he have done better?
Made improvements since 2000? Ya think?
Well, just as an example, as the CEO of a company manufacturing and selling cars, he could have helped them make better f*cking cars. Case in point: my 2000 Impala. I LOVED that car. It had 6 seats and got 36 mpg (don’t ask me how, it wasn’t rated for that). I got 214,000 miles out of that car before the transmission quit on me. Nothing ever went wrong with that car that wasn’t my fault (like leaving the windows down in the rain and messing up the power window buttons). So I wanted to replace it with a new one just like it, but NOoooo. The damn things don’t come with 6 seats anymore, and the mileage sucks. Make a better car! Or at least don’t make them worse!
I guess they got their money’s worth.
Shame his pension wasn’t ‘final salary’ then
The fact that his salary was only $1 means he was already so rich that a real salary would only have been a case of gilding the lily
During Wagoner’s tenure as CEO, GM went from being the largest auto manufacturer in the world to the brink of bankruptcy and breakup. Also, during his tenure, GM’s stock price went down 95%. If that isn’t failure, define failure. And if a guy like that doesn’t get fired by this company somewhere along the way, then the system is broken.
Cons believe that in a world without laws, rules, or restrictions on their behavior, the rich, white American Aryans will always prevail. And when they don’t, it’s always attributable to some nefarious external force, like government regulations, the refusal of the middle and lower classes to cooperate, or the inferior actions of non-white or non-American people.
you know… I was going to post a wall of text about that second paragraph, but honestly, I don’t see the point. you can’t win an argument with someone who probably isn’t going to listen anyway.
Particularly when they throw “Aryans” into the descriptives. That’s where I stopped reading.
Yup, me too.
A thousand years!
Oh come on, we all know that Republican or “neo-con” goals are all based on ridding the world of rules and regulations, while at the same time murdering poor and “brown” people for fun. I know its the only reason I get up in the morning.
Damn poor people keep holding me down from my ability to do anything well and of course the “brown” folks just don’t deserve to exist, yep, I guess I pretty much have to vote Republican now.
(BTW, I hope that everyone here can detect the serious sarcastic tone inflected in this rant, but if not let the record show that I do not hate poor or brown people, but was using the insanity spouted forth by Fast Food to make my point)
If you read New American Century’s avowed intent, the Neocon purpose is to extend American Power abraod, while introducing more regulation and control at home, by the application of fear and religion…
Anyone who’s read your less bespittled posts would know you have little to nothing against people based on race or gender…
Doesn’t fear and religion go hand in hand? Most religions make you do “good” stuff in fear of going to a bad place after you die…but then again, media instigated terrorism could be a good source of fear as well. Like prioritizing murders and terrorist attacks as news stories are a couple big ones…
Thanks for mentioning the New American Century (NAC) Neocon “thinktank”. I read their web page before the 200 election and it scared the hell out of me. Unfortunatly NAC puppet GWB won and all his NAC buddies took positions in his administration as stated on the NAC website.
*sigh* I wonder where we would be now if people had actually read their website before the 2000 elections.
Probably in the same place, because OMG, can you imagine President Gore?
No worries, I chuckled.
Given the huge union-based obligations that GM had racked up all during the port-war era, how could it have been different?
Let us see… better QA on their product, better products all around… things like that…
Amen, GM has refused to change, same with Chrysler, Ford seems to be making some headway. We knew gas was going to be a problem in the 70′s with the embargo but they just went on spewing big engines and bad gas mileage while the Japanese companies kept getting more and more efficient.
Wagoner became CEO in 2000. Apparently, you think he should have built a time machine, traveled back to 1970 and changed GM’s designs. Good plan, guys.
No, but he had the bulk of the past 9 years to work something on the culture, which he has failed to do…
How nice. And how do they do that under the current union rules and already existing $2000 cost disadvantage per vehicle?
Not spent much time in large corporates, have you, little boy.
Impressive reply, you really showed him.
don’t like it? Tell someone who gives a good god damn, you idiot.
Ford has managed. They’ve stayed comparatively nimble, kept producing vehicles that people want to buy on both high and low ends of the range, and are not currently looking for a handout. You don’t hear as much whistle and splash about things like Ford’s hybrid SUVs or the small cars they market successfully in Europe, but they’re out there.
here’s the real reason why ford is making it…
ford owns:
lincoln
mercury
ford
volvo
.
gm owns:
cadillac
buick
saturn
chevy
gmc
pontiac
chevrolet
.
gm is running out of money trying to pay the marketing bills on all their different brands…
Doesn’t Ford own Porsche too?
No, thats VW.
Porsche owns VW!
Who’s on first?
No, Who’s on second.
No, Who’s on Porsche! Me!
1973 911 Targa, LA to NY, in May. Yay!
Jaguar. Ford owns Jaguar. Which is why they look like Tauruses now. Stupidly methinks.
Didn’t Ford spin Jaguar off again recently?
Sadly, dumbing down the Jag’s look was the price of gaining in reliability: that JD Powers award for reliability this year that GM’s been trumpeting for Buick? Was a tie, with Jaguar.
Strange days indeed.
The Jag is more or less a Mondeo (UK model name) in a party frock.
Possibly, I can’t keep up with all this crap. I just knew they owned some hot car that they turned into some not so hot car. Ok, I also knew it was Jaguar. But that’s where it ends.
Wow! GM owns Chevy and Chevrolet???
Hey, where does Hummer fit into the GM list?
Hummer doesn’t fit anywhere, much less on a list…
*A* Hummer, on the other hand, fits in any vehicle quite nicely.
High-five!
*high fives Wholesome*
Over there.
J/k, it’s not over there. It’s….OVER THERE!
It’s in the back, taking up two parking spaces.
But, yeah, GM product. So is Saab, now.
Oh damn, I missed this post. :p
GM also owns SAAB.
and Vauxhall/Opel
And Holden (in Australia), which also imports cars from the UK and rebadges them as Holdens.
kinda depends on the type of con you’re talking about. i mean, so friends are cons, they’re not exactly monsters. my filthy rich neighbors who have an in-ground swimming pool and a mansion but apparently not enough money to pay me more than $3 an hour to babysit their demon-kids, on the other hand…
Caption Fail, it should read:
Private Sector jobs, now regulated by government.
Or a good spin on an old favorite: Sure you can trust the government, just ask Rick Wagoner.
What some fail to realize is that this is a private sector job. GM’s biggest mistake was accepting a bailout from the government. GM has been a dinosaur for years, which is very sad, but since when did any company or bank for that matter get so big that we CANNOT let it fail? Bankruptcy would have been better for GM employees, and GM car owners. The reason why the big 3 have been sucking so bad is because they keep doing the same old thing, making big engine hot rods that suck gas while Americans have since realized that they can get a better car, more fuel efficient for the same price or less by going foreign. In addition the US tax code penalizes GM and any manufacturer who wishes to ship their goods overseas and compete in the global market.
That being said, yes GM’s board should have got rid of this guy a long time ago, but government regulation of private business employees scares the piss out of me.
All of course is MHO.
A little paranoia is healthy. Though I have trouble with having the Little paranoia part… Which is why I am sure I will be dead before sixty. You are right about why they are failing though.
scary thing is DWN, nobody can change it because the lobbyists make all the money off the tax code, and they have the politicians’ (both sides) ears, and they don’t want anyone taking all their money away.
So you’re saying I need to become a lobbyist…
that’s where the real money is, those guys get serious bank off of working the tax code, how do you think they can afford to schmooze all those politicians?
True, just means I will vent my rage on business attired pedestrians when I play Xbox 360 tonight…
that’s right, nothing like a little KMD (kill/maim/destroy) to relieve some stress!
I am going to use the steel toe to crotch followed by stun gun for my main method…
My preferred method is The Simpsons – Hit and Run. You can run people over & do massive property damage, then get out of your car and add insult to injury by kicking people.
I might have to nab that one but I’ve been addicted to Saint’s Row 2 for my criminal needs. That and I put together a Joker look for when I want an extra notch of nonsense.
Doom II – God Mode. You just punch everything to death… It’s like being on speed and PCP, without the renal damage….
I am fond of the human shield mechanic and executing them with a shot from a stun gun to the face…
You’d suck at it, unfortunately, because you say what you mean.
Nicest turn down for job, ever… Thanks.
Imagine it’s DomSub scenario… you’d be good then…
I am not sure that as a Lobbyist, I should be growling, barking orders, and beating politicians to get what I want… But I might be mistaken.
You naughty naughty senator. You’ll give those tax breaks to oil companies and you’ll like it, dirty boy.
I was thinking about that but there is a glaring problem.
I am neither, female, hermaphrodite, nor transvestite so I don’t believe they would appreciate me beating and humiliating them. Also, your speech is a bit light, lemme show ya.
*clear throat*
“Listen toad, I want those tax breaks issued. Do you understand me, you disgusting little amphibian!!!” And accented with a slap or two. Men tend to want harsher humiliation…
I also have ideas of how I would tend to female politicians but I’ll stop here as I have said enough already.
O_O That sounds effective to me!
Speaking with Dommes is a definite learning experiences. Also, for those who care, don’t compare Dominatrixes to Lifestyle Dommes. It is considered an insult. There is a difference, though probably harder to see from outside the community than from within.
Think of it as the difference between a prostitute and a girlfriend. Ya, I think might spell it out. *ponders*
It’s a role play was my point.
Ah, apologies. I was overthinking the matter… Dear gods was I overthinking the matter. *grabs brain bleach*
Eh, I was pressed for time. Also, I’m really just a nice girl at heart.
I know you, O’ Wielder of the People’s Breasts… And I’m a nice person too… Honest! >_>
‘Course you are, love!
Yay. *hugs*
Thing is, if you go to the Govt with the begging bowl, then expect that the Govt will want a say.
TBH, I’d be more pissed that they thought the could take my Tax money, and then expect no one to represent my interests if they got their pound of flash from my taxes… OK, you may not *like* this government, but they’re the only people you have at the table when the people with the begging bowls start pissing it up the wall AGAIN…
fair enough, although I currently don’t see the government as representing my interests at the moment. That being said this is a piss-poor excuse for management by the govt. They should have told them (both administrations) that GM needed to go bankrupt. No company is big enough to not be allowed to fail our country will not die without GM, it will suck for the employees but the country will live. Just like congress should have left AIG alone, but since a lot of COngressmen/women had a lot of money tied into AIG they had to bail it out, to protect themselves.
As far as the govt goes, it’s there effectively for the next 3 years, so try and make the best of it…
I can see both sides of the Bankruptcy coin. Personally, I agree with it for the car manfactory industry, simply because it NEEDS cleaning out. It’s over unionised, and generally, inept. The AIG thing – again, a sold crash and burn may well have been needed, but that would have worse ‘unpredictable’ effects on the local and global economy that the bail out (generally, an uncontrolled collapse of a major part of a sector infrastructure is never a ‘good’ thing)… However, as a major stake holder, I wouldn’t see the point of retaining AIG. Which is pretty much the I hold of Northern Rock in the UK. What we should lobby for the division and sell off of the assets to groups who HAVEN’T screwed the pooch. Since the UK did too little too late our publicly floated Building Societies are now mostly Santander or Lloyds Bank (not related to Lloyds of London). They’re refusing to help non-stockmarket ‘mutuals’ since they fly in the face of their economic “ideas”(I use the term loosely, and have done since 1980), when actually,there are more ‘real people’ with their stuff on the line… The UK REALLY hates genuine mutuals, who haven’t been screwing people dry and haven’t been taking ‘risks’ with people’s cash (but some have been left with the package when it stopped ticking, due to the near criminal activities of the ‘independent’ overseeing and investment rating body in the US… the lads who are now being investigated by the Feds…)
God’s wounds and death. I. Hate. Politicians. But in the end, they’ve all we’ve got…
damn them Fester, we have no choice then but anarachy!
Anarchy is hard on the utilities… but a few honest politicos who could find their own arse allowed the use of both hands and a mirror would be nice… just once.
But you have to lie better and play dirtier than that to stand for election.
I know. But it’s more likely than a functional anarchy…
I’m sorry but anytime the Government forces a private sector CEO to step down scares the crap out of me. I’m a Republican, albet a moderate one. I believe in gay marriage, pro choice, not religious, not a Bush fan…. but what Obama is doing is ridiculous. You might complain Bush “stole” some of our liberties, however he did it to protect this country from an enemy that just wants us dead. Obama takes our liberties (free market economy) with thunderous applause from the jealousy of people. “OMG he/ she makes more than me, they need to be punished!” BS!!! It’s the job of the BOD and Stock Owners to regulate employeement of CEOs, NOT the GOVERNMENT!!!! What’s next? “You have a Government contract, and I don’t like the look of your CEO, he’s fired!!!!” That’s not paranoia, IT JUST HAPPENED!!! Yeah these people were “greedy” or better yet they made money that YOU didn’t. Some probably did it honestly, some didn’t. Do you know WHY the American Car industry is failing as bad as it is?!?!? UNIONS!!! It costs WAY to much money to build a car here in the states (Nissan is hurting too) than it is overseas. However due to import laws, it’s just as expensive for American Companies to build cars overseas and ship them here. It’s not always the CEOs fault…. when you’re paying someone $50 an hour, the union another $50 an hour plus benefits, as compared to $50/ week no benefits in some of the other countries, who can sell their product CHEAPER?!?!!?
See above… he asked for the cash…
Um, someone with math skills help me out here, $20 million divided by 32 years@40hrs/wk = ??/hour for {searching for euphemism…} sabotaging his own company?
Given that people who only show up for the minimum 40 rarely advance far in the corporate world, I averaged it out at 60 hours per week, and it’s a hair over $200 per hour.
I volunteer to screw up –*coughs*, um, I mean “fix” GM for only $150 per hour!
Thanks! You’re right about the 40, though I forgot to figure in any vacation time, either. But apparently math wasn’t a big part of his skill set either!
Um, I think GM has been pretty well “fixed” already, in the losing-of-testicles manner….
I’ll do it for $149/hr…
Nissan and the other Japanese automakers operate the majority of their plants in Right-to-Work states and use almost exclusively non-union workforces, so if they are struggling as well, your union argument becomes a non-factor
Which they are, and they’re going to their respective governments for help too.
Oh right, it’s the union’s fault. A few things:
1. If the company can afford to pay someone who was the CEO for less than 10 years, AND helped drag the company down, if they can afford to pay him $20 mil, they can afford to pay workers a living wage.
2. Why is it ok for CEO’s etc to be over compensated, (and, yes, if you are the head of a company that fails and you receive millions, you’re over compensated), but regular people make $200, 000 a year and it’s undermining America! Is it the ties vs dirty fingernails? THAT’S class warfare.
Why shouldn’t people who go to work every day be able to make a decent living? Unions fight for wages and health benefits and fair working conditions. I certainly don’t think the solution is to negate that here in the US and allow for sweat shop labor etc. Just because other countries do it, doesn’t make it right.
We should impose greater trade restrictions on countries with human rights violations, thereby encouraging them to get there acts together, and opening up more industry in this country.
MHO
Precisely…when we lowly working class peasants raise a stink about the inequity of the economy, we’re fomenting “class warfare” but when the little helpless dears in their gated communities are sucking the companies dry and steering them toward the jagged rocks and making sure that everyone below is getting the ream good and dry-like, it’s merely status quo and is to be defended at all costs
Also, I would like to point out that unions are paid for out of worker’s wages, the company isn’t paying out anything for them… I mean, let’s face it, why would they want to? Also, I have been a member of a few unions, and I can’t recall paying out more than 50 dollars in an entire month. Not having real facts to back up an argument is an epic fail and just makes you look… well, you know.
Amen, carbonbased. Amen.
America has to be the only country you get a bonus, and government bailout for crashing your company and then complain about it.
Businesses have been doing it for years… usually they get a new CEO who turns a going concern into a board and shareholder cash cow (which passes for sucess for a while) and when the whole damn thing crashes and burns, everyone on the board walks away with a sh!t load of cash, and another company is ripping the CEO’s arm off to get them to come and do it to them. The joy of the 80s…
North Lincs Co-Operative society was a great example of that…
And yet if I screw up at a job, it would put a black mark that would be a boundary to getting hired elsewhere.
Absolutely, because it would affect the bottom line of those who are
raping the company. It would be like walking a girl to her car instead
of leaving her to fend for herself.
Or just raping her in the parking lot…
…as long as you stole her car, that would be okay, as long as you left her in good enough condition to be raped again.
Of course not, gotta leave some fear behind each time until she stops struggling. Then I just disappear to find a new victim.
Okay, now my blood went a bit cold… I’m not cut out to be a CEO.
Politicians, CEOs, and Sexual Serial Killers have very similar sociopathic tendcy profiles…
Not surprised…
Class warfare – the REAL “only good war”!
I’m ready to be oppressed! Where do I sign up?
Fu(k ya! If that is oppression, I’ll take the family combo…
To go, please! Wrapped in a pretty red bow. Or not, as long as I can have it.
Amen.
With fries and a McMilkShake too, please.
How do you know he doesn’t deserve $20 million? Oh, that’s right, you don’t think anyone deserves $20 million.
I think I deserve $20 million. ^ See my above post. ^
I believe the question is “Does he really NEED that $20 million?” He was a executive of GM, such an amount must be so arbitrary…it could have been used to go to his workers.
Oh…I don’t know…because he is a colossal failure?
Now now, no need to go calling people names here. That’s an insult to all the other colossal failures out there.
Ahh more class warfare morons. You have no right to determine what is too much compensation, no one but the employer and employee can decide that.
Yeah, nobody but the employer and the employee can decide public opinion. They have every right to shape our opinions of their pay, otherwise it’s durn commeenism. I think that that 20 million could be better spent elsewhere if employees, and so don’t support them. Didn’t say anything about determining it, just claiming the right to ridicule it.
When they came crawling to the Govt for assistance to resolve the failures they wrought, we as taxpayers assumed a right superceding that of the sharreholders. And of course, one of the biggest failures of the current business model both in the auto industry as well as many other industries is that the immediate, short-term concerns of the shareholders, while clearly important, became the singular focus of many CEO’s out there, even at the expense of the long-term health of the company. Oh, But silly me, i do forget myself…it’s only class warfare when the lowly unwashed heathens dare challenge the divine right of our betters to be paid FAR out the ass for taking a giant corporation and driving it right into the crapper…the taxpayer, the consumer and the worker are but mere cogs whose sole purpose is to keep this guy’s wheel of fortune a-turnin’, right?