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pope benedict xvi

HIGH CHURCH OFFICIALS
Vacuum sealed for freshness

(Pope Benedict XVI)

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  1. ... says:

    Alter boys.

  2. *fanboy glee*

    “Dude, I just found Dad’s old Pope action figure with Holy Grip and… Body of Christ… Ewwwwww. Least it is vacuum sealed so we won’t get any on us.”

  3. solnesther says:

    I saved my bar of souvenir Pope soap from when his predecessor was in New York. You just don’t see many bars of ‘Pope on a rope’.

    • pittypat says:

      Does he shape-shift into the devil as he gets worn down?

    • n8 says:

      Heh… you said pope on a rope, my mind immediately envisioned him swinging from a lamp post. As someone once said, mankind will only be truly free when the last king is strangled to death with the entrails of the last priest.

      • PortlandMark says:

        No, I heard it was when the last king was killed by a stone falling from the ruins of the last church.

        Of course, the next day, that big redneck MF that lives down the road is going to come over with his gun collection and a few drinking buddies and explain that *he* runs things now.

        I think it was Robert Anton Wilson who said that Kings are just the most successful bandits, and borders just the place where two gangs of thieves got bored with the fighting and decided to call a truce.

      • solnesther says:

        We were in Rome last fall and visited the Vatican and as I wander through miles of The Vatican museum trying to find the Sistine chapel all I could think was that if they sold just one of these valuable pieces of art every week they woulld have enough fo several centuries of sales and if they donat4ed the proceeds to the poor, they could wipe out poverty long before they ran out of plundered art.

  4. jstagurl says:

    Did you notice the guy in the back of the photo by the tree? It looks like he’s doing a Nazi salute. Now THAT’S funny!

  5. Post before Whining Religious posting.

  6. Green Is Good says:

    The Pope Mobile is pretty cool. I wonder if the Pope blessed it…just curious.

    • Bless this vehicle and may it never break down so long as to inconvenience me. May its translucent walls keep me safe for I still have use for this earthly frame. Namely dressing to put a pimp to shame.

      • Saint says:

        i wonder if the pope is related to bubble boy?

      • tinuviel says:

        I like that nobody felt the need to provide bullet-proof glass for the driver! A would-be assasin might choose to shoot at him in an attempt to crash the Pope-mobile.
        Then again, since when did the Vatican spend effort or money on the un-blessed?

        • rhorho says:

          Assumption 1: Driver isn’t protected by bullet-proof glass.
          Assumption 2: Vatican spent no money on the driver.
          Assumption 3: Driver isn’t “blessed,” or otherwise respected.

  7. Jane St.Clair says:

    And… I have no idea why the word “I” is in there. Ignore please.

  8. Mikhael says:

    Vacuum? Hell no, that baby’s under positive pressure!
    All of which comes from the chemical weapon defences and none of which from the divine inspiration within.

  9. willdog says:

    I love how the Pope is always on LOL News.

  10. Mr.Wholesome says:

    He needs a disco ball and a pine scented air freshener in there.

  11. Lilith says:

    I think he’s way beyond the Best-before-date…

  12. Saint says:

    I know the real reason why you never see the Pope in his Popemobile after enchilada night at the Vatican….

  13. Saint says:

    I wonder if they refer to the Pope’s toilet as the Holy Throne?

    • rhorho says:

      I wonder if they ever serve him Holy Mackerel.

      • Anniee451 says:

        Or deviled eggs! (did you know there is a guy who was so concerned about Kosher salt that he started a line of “christian salt”? True story. True, bizarre, and stupid story.)

        • Jane St.Clair says:

          I’m confused… Why can’t Christians eat Kosher salt? Or is there no reason why not and that’s part of what makes this weird religious trivia?

          • froofrou says:

            Because Kosher salt is, you know… *glances around nervously* …not Christian. You might go to hell if you eat the unholy salt.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              The Jews nailed Baby Jesus to a tree…
              One thing I’ve noticed about Kosher wine… God’s death, but they like it sweet…

              • slan agat says:

                Particularly true of traditional Passover wine, due to restrictions on use of yeast.

                There are, however, a few vintners who’ve managed to produce Passover wines that taste halfway decent. Herzog is my mum’s favorite. [LINK]

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              Oh! I get it! So the next time you’re reading your Christian fiction book (possibly a Love Inspired romance novel, or maybe the Left Behind series) and listening to some Christian praise music, you can use some Christian salt on some of your snacks if you feel a bit peckish. After that you can take your car to be fixed at Angel Automotive, the Christian Garage (no lie, this is where my cousin takes her car).

              • AC says:

                Left Behind? Euch… I’ll stick with Narnia…

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  I’ve never read them, this is purely knowledge gleaned from working in a bookstore.

                  • AC says:

                    NEVER READ NARNIA????

                    • AC says:

                      Oh, you’ve not read Left behind… That’s ok then… I didn’t read it all, wasn’t dire, but I don’t think you’re missing much…

                      • Jane St.Clair says:

                        Actually, I’ve never read the whole of Narnia either. I’ve read parts and didn’t like it as well as I liked A Wrinkle in Time and The Dark is Rising series.

                        • AC says:

                          I liked “Over sea, under stone” but just wasn’t into the second one. Probably due to the new main character… I get really attached to the first character I meet and new ones just annoy me. “A wrinkle in time” was great but I still love Narnia best. (Used to shut myself in my wardrobe to try to get to Narnia (when I was 8, not last week)) Although the last Narnia book’s a bit dire… Narnia kind of introduced me to Fantasy so I’m dead grateful to C.S. Lewis for that.

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          The kids in Over Sea, Under Stone come back in Greenwitch, and then the final book ties all the characters together. Narnia’s just one of those meh books to me, I don’t know why.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  I don’t know how anyone can get through those LaHaye books. I read part of one and put it down – trash. Now Narnia, or The Space Trilogy…

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    I’d not bother with anything by C.S. “I was at the last supper I was” lewis…

                    • AC says:

                      That’s because you haven’t read the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe…

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        I loathed it as a child, and it’s got no better with time… Heavy handed bull crap by one of the worst ‘theologians’ ever…
                        If he was honest in his ‘non-fiction’ titles, we’d have ‘Why Worship God, When He’s a Nasty Bastard’… I’ve seen little scholarship beyond the crap you’d get at a Baptist ‘University’ in any of his work…

                    • bad fairie says:

                      finally someone else who doesn’t care for c.s. lewis!
                      one set of books i don’t regret not spending money or shelf space on.

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        Oh, it’s more than ‘not care for’, I regard them as a waste of trees…

                        • Whoa….something we can agree on, Fester. I tried reading those as a kid and never got into them at ALL even though fantasy/adventure stuff was a big favorite of mine. I think the theology part of it went over my head at that point, but the kids were So. Effing. Annoying. Gah!

              • rhorho says:

                I’m not sure about elsewhere, but here, in the Bible Belt, I’ve seen business cards and trucks with a fish emblem on them.

                I don’t know whether using the emblem helps those businesses gain favor over the others in the religious crowd, but to me it means “This is a place holder for an actual credential that would make my company materially preferable over the rest.”

                • slan agat says:

                  I like the fish with feet, though. And the one that says “Gefilte.”

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  It’s like being a mason, just with the morality removed…

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  It probably does. My cousin chose her mechanic based on the fact that he was Christian. She didn’t check out his prices or his credentials, nope, he goes to the same church therefore he must fix her car.

          • slan agat says:

            Kosher salt is basically purified sea salt prepared under conditions approved by the rabbinical panels who monitor production of kosher food. (Certain kinds of kosher meat require use of salt in their preparation, and that salt has to be produced itself in a facility suitable for kosher foods.) It’s no different from the salt you’d find on any soft pretzel sold anywhere, really.

            But because it’s had (gasp! horrors!) rabbis supervising its production, its been tainted by Teh Jewish, which is like Teh Gay but slightly less contagious and less socially acceptable to recoil in horror from openly. So I guess some born-again fundie types felt the need to produce their own yummy pretzel salt that didn’t have icky Jew cooties.

            • slan agat says:

              (Bit I forgot to mention: The useful bit about kosher salt is larger grains. It’s used to draw the blood out of red meat, so larger grains dissolving slower is kind of important. It can be rock salt as well as sea salt, but large grains and no iodine are the defining characteristics.)

            • April says:

              Wow. There’s a double standard.
              Jews gotta have their food prepared Kosher, which is wOOt great and we have to understand, and be tolerant, and embrace their decision.
              Christians, however, can’t have the equivalent without being considered racists. Way to be an a@@hole.

              • Jane St.Clair says:

                Were you dropped on your head as a baby? There are no Christian requirements concerning food consumption. There ARE a lot of Jewish requirements. No one is saying you can’t have your own salt, we’re only laughing at you if you do because it has NO RELIGIOUS SIGNIFICANCE AT ALL.

                • April says:

                  I’m not a Christian, you stupid pontificating self-deluded cow.
                  I’m pointing out hypocrisy.
                  Fu(k are you ridiculous. And you think your opinion actually MATTERS!
                  (see, I can do caps lock TOO).

                  • viking gal says:

                    April hon, take a chill pill, OK? After reading your two posts above, I think you’ve had waaay too much caffeine to be around other people. And please, take the ammo out of any weapons you have until it wears off?

                    • April says:

                      Blow me.
                      You a@@holes and your double standards make me sick.
                      Christians and Catholics deserve your constant ridicule, and Jews, who originated the faith from which both sprang don’t.
                      WTF? They all worship the same dead guy in the sky.

                      • Jane St.Clair says:

                        Probably because Jews don’t try to make kids use their bible and prayers in schools and they don’t try to change laws to suit their religious morality. In short, since you seem to be lacking brain power, Jews don’t push their rlegion in my face and Christians do. I don’t have a problem with people being religious, I have a problem with people trying to make my follow their religious tenets.

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          *religion* in the 5th line and *me* in the 8th (stupid firefox)

                        • April says:

                          Riiiggghhhttt.
                          This is about YOU, since you ARE the center of the universe.
                          You just wish the Mormons or Witnesses would visit so you’d have some actual human interaction. Sucks to be that desperate, huh?
                          Yo, dipsh!t…don’t talk law and who makes/changes it unless you know what you are talking about. As if Jewish folk had NO hand in, say, American economic policy since 1987. Can you say Alan Greenspan? I knew ya could!

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          That’s okay dear, Mommy will be back to put the helmet on soon. Try not to flail around and hurt yourself until she gets here.

                        • April says:

                          Yet again, truth is too much to handle. Chew your cud, bossy.

                        • froofrou says:

                          You’re an unpleasant person. I bet your significant other killed themselves in order to get away from you. I pity your shrink.

                        • rhorho says:

                          April: Another one resorting to personal attacks when caught being ridiculous…*sigh*

                          You have an opinion, and consensus doesn’t back you up. In the face of ridicule, you turn to personal attacks as a means of defending yourself, but you haven’t defended your *argument.*

                          You’re not going to win this one. The truth is not on your side, and name sparring is just that.

                        • April says:

                          And thus arriveth the posse crying “and none shall pass”
                          LOL!
                          Oh, and English isn’t even my first language and I know that
                          my significant other killed himself/herself, not themselves.
                          LOL!

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Foreign johnny grammar fail… it’s acceptable English…

                        • April says:

                          ROFLMAO!
                          Predictable, AND amusing!
                          …and wrong.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Definitely NOT proper English. But pay Fisty no mind; his first language is “azzhole”.

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Unc: I agree.

                          There is a difference between “acceptable” and “proper” English.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Yes, it am a fragment. So? Fisty was wrong; that about does ‘em up.

                        • HairySexyTroll says:

                          “American grammar doesn’t have the sturdiness of British grammar (a British advertising man with a proper education can make magazine copy for ribbed condoms sound like the Magna goddam Carta), but it has its own scruffy charm”
                          + 1 internet to whomever can guess my favorite quotable recluse…

                        • HairySexyTroll says:

                          And “Definitely NOT proper English” is a sentence fragment.
                          +
                          And irony isn’t made of iron! :lol:

                        • Yo mama says:

                          ROFLPWN!
                          But yo’ mama’d do it!!
                          lol

                        • rhorho says:

                          @April: “Acceptable” English is in keeping with linguists, whereas “proper” English is in keeping with grammarians.

                          If you weren’t busy name calling, you might have something more to show for yourself, besides socks.

                        • April says:

                          BS. I’ve read enough to know that you are always decrying people for typing what is spoken. If it’s spoken, it’s accepted, right?
                          Or do you have a new definition?

                        • froofrou says:

                          You were the one decrying the use of the English language when written as spoken, dahlink:

                          Oh, and English isn’t even my first language and I know that
                          my significant other killed himself/herself, not themselves.

                          -
                          You were saying?

                        • rhorho says:

                          LMAO!! Thanks for the chuckle, froo!

                          @April: Define “always.”

                        • April says:

                          You’re the so called Grammar Nazi in all the threads I’ve read, right?
                          And I’ve never said, not heard, someone “killed themselves.”
                          It’s always “killed himself” or “killed herself.”
                          Anyone else heard “your significant other killed themselves.”?
                          ROFLMAO!

                        • rhorho says:

                          It’s a shortcut to use “themselves” in that situation, instead of saying “him- or herself.” I don’t use “themselves” in that situation, but I don’t correct others if they choose to do so. I’m not the Grammar [WANGABLE WORD].

                          Usually, when it comes down to correcting grammar, someone has lost the big fight, and is resorting to nitpicking. Does that notion sound familiar to you?

                        • April says:

                          Yes, you’re doing it right now by quibbling over “racist” versus “bigot.”
                          It’s good that you know yourself.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Pointing out a terminal argument flaw is not quibbling; it’s debating. You’ve been having trouble with that notion for a while now, haven’t you?

                        • April says:

                          Nope. You have. What’s the terminal argument flaw?
                          This country recognizes Jews as a race. Therefore, insinuating Christians are making derogatory statements against them in the commission of a crime would make those Christians racists, and thus prosecutable, under current hate crime law.
                          You felt contrary, and now it’s biting you in the a@@.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Truly, the flip-flopping of your arguments is making me sea sick. Now, where again were the Christians bad-mouthing the Jews in the commission of a crime?

                        • rhorho says:

                          You didn’t get the counter argument, so I’m not going to bother to repeat it. Re-read the thread, and pay close attention to the point at which it is said that Jews consider people who call Jews a “race” to be antisemitic. You’ve got a legal definition used for class protection, and I have reality, which you haven’t countered.

                          It’s not my job to educate you, so, I’m done.

                          Call me names if you get bored, okay?

                        • rhorho says:

                          LOL! Above @April, again!

                        • April says:

                          Yeah! You’re done! Which means you won’t post again.
                          Pay close attention to the fact that no-one agrees on whether Judaism is a culture, race, religion or family. Not even Jews themselves.
                          Believe me, I listen to that argument a lot.
                          Why would you denigrate me for using the legal definition of a group of people in America? Women and oppressed races fought since this nation began to be legally included in this country!
                          OOPS! LOL! You’d be a liar if you replied, right? :)

                        • froofrou says:

                          Therefore, insinuating Christians are making derogatory statements against them in the commission of a crime would make those Christians racists, and thus prosecutable, under current hate crime law.</blockquote
                          -
                          Where is this happening again?

                        • froofrou says:

                          Lemme try that again:

                          Therefore, insinuating Christians are making derogatory statements against them in the commission of a crime would make those Christians racists, and thus prosecutable, under current hate crime law.

                          -
                          Where is this happening again?

                        • April says:

                          Let me rephrase, so it is more obviously hypothetical.
                          Therefore, if Christians (or anyone) made derogatory statements against them in the commission of a crime, it would be a hate crime and prosecutable under current law.
                          See? Protected status = elevation of crime from just your standard run of the mill mugging to a hate crime. If you assaulted me, because I’m Jewish, you’d do more time.
                          Got it now?

                        • froofrou says:

                          You started this whole thing off by poking fun at the Jews, then you claimed to be against bigotry. Which is it? Are you upset that you were called out as the bigot you are, and your only defense is to start slinging the name “bigot” around at everyone else you see?

                        • April says:

                          Wow. There’s a double standard.
                          Jews gotta have their food prepared Kosher, which is wOOt great and we have to understand, and be tolerant, and embrace their decision.
                          Christians, however, can’t have the equivalent without being considered racists.
                          -
                          Christians and Catholics deserve your constant ridicule, and Jews, who originated the faith from which both sprang don’t.
                          WTF? They all worship the same dead guy in the sky.
                          -
                          This is what I said. Where am I poking fun? Where did I say anything nasty, or intolerant, or bigoted? Where did I do anything but say the same standard should apply to all? Hmmmm?

                        • froofrou says:

                          …which is wOOt great and we have to understand, and be tolerant, and embrace their decision.

                          -
                          Don’t look now: your snide is showing.

                        • April says:

                          LOL! For sure.
                          I loathe food rules, and especially find the requirement of three sets of dishes and utensils to keep things uncontaminated frivolous.
                          Meat, and milk, and fish, and this goes here and there, and that item can’t be in the kitchen, and this ingredient is a colorant made from the wrong fishey thing…it’s like being a kid whose peas can’t touch his potatoes.
                          The things we do for love…

                        • froofrou says:

                          You never answered my question, so I’ll ask it again:
                          -

                          “You started this whole thing off by poking fun at the Jews, then you claimed to be against bigotry. Which is it? Are you upset that you were called out as the bigot you are, and your only defense is to start slinging the name “bigot” around at everyone else you see?”

                        • April says:

                          And I’ll reply again.
                          Where am I poking fun? Where did I say anything nasty, or intolerant, or bigoted? Where did I do anything but say the same standard should apply to all? Hmmmm?
                          -
                          For your information, I only called one person “racist” for the way that person was addressing me. I never called the original commenter anything. I said the statement portrayed Christians as racist/bigot/ignorant.
                          Read the thread.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Jews gotta have their food prepared Kosher, which is wOOt great and we have to understand, and be tolerant, and embrace their decision.Christians, however, can’t have the equivalent without
                          being considered racists.
                          -
                          Christians and Catholics deserve your constant ridicule, and Jews, who originated the faith from which both sprang don’t.
                          WTF? They all worship the same dead guy in the sky.

                          -
                          Care to retract your calling someone else a bigot?

                        • April says:

                          I STARTED it? You’re joking, right?
                          -
                          But because it’s had (gasp! horrors!) rabbis supervising its production, its been tainted by Teh Jewish, which is like Teh Gay but slightly less contagious and less socially acceptable to recoil in horror from openly. So I guess some born-again fundie types felt the need to produce their own yummy pretzel salt that didn’t have icky Jew cooties.
                          -
                          Oh, I see it now: there’s NO sweeping “Christians = teh crazy = the racists = teh bigots = teh haters” judgement there. My bad!

                        • April says:

                          I didn’t call anyone a bigot, so no, I don’t care to retract anything.
                          Apparently you can’t recognize sarcasm.
                          Care to see my tiechel?
                          LOL!

                        • slan agat says:

                          Shall I help you count the fails, since it’s me you decided to go off on to start this whole idiotic gymkhana?

                          “Christians can’t have the equivalent [of kashrut] without being considered racists.” FAIL. Christians don’t HAVE religiously based dietary restrictions, unless you count the Catholic no meat on Friday thing (apparently fish isn’t meat to them), which didn’t enter the discussion. What did enter the discussion was the Hebrew word in the name of a type of salt, which is not actually any different from any other coarse grain salt, and certain fundamentalists having issues with the salt box referring to a religion not their own. Yes, I do think making that kind of fuss over the word kosher on the salt box, when the salt itself is no different from any other salt and in no way transgressive of Christian rules is a bigoted and silly position for fundamentalists to take. Apropos,
                          Fundamentalists does not include all Christians, only the ones who have taken certain extreme positions, FAIL again that you overlooked that point I stated clearly enough, and by the way,
                          You claim to know so much about kashrut but you think fish is its own category? FAIL. No sect of Judaism I’ve ever heard of makes that distinction. Who does? Catholics, who allow fish on traditionally meatless Fridays.
                          US law defining Judaism as a race? FAIL. Judaism is acknowledged as a protected legal class because it is a minority religion and religion is itself a protected class under US law.

                          Moreover, the way you fly off the handle and sling insults when challenged without having a factual, reasoned basis for your position – and the way you accuse others of bigotry rather than face your own biases – reminds me very strongly of someone we all know to well. Someone who is the weakest link.

                          Perhaps it’s time to say goodbye.

                        • slan agat says:

                          Note to our fans playing along at home: WordPress does not recognize the unnumbered list HTML tags. The fails should have been bullet pointed above so the wall of text would be broken up a bit. Sorry.

                        • Kosher salt makes Baby Jesus sad.

                        • SB, what are you doing feeding a baby salt? :shock:

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Equal Opportunity Bigot Notice
                          A pox on all the cults of Abraham, and all the other gods are bastards too…
                          End of Equal Opportunity Bigot Notice

                        • April says:

                          Thank you, Uncle Fester. EOB for all, was my original point.
                          And slan agent, there is so much wrong with you point by point assesment of your definition of my fail I can only shake my head and say:
                          Google is your friend, bigoted poster. And lol!

                        • slan agat says:

                          Google is apparently your friend, dearie, because that appears to be your source of knowledge for Jewish life in America, as opposed to the 41 years of living it I’m speaking from.

                          Goodbye.

                        • April says:

                          Fine. Point by point.
                          =
                          SA spouts: Shall I help you count the fails, since it’s me you decided to go off on to start this whole idiotic gymkhana?
                          -
                          Let’s go, then, fair enough? And “gymkhana”? Are you kidding? LOL! Synonym FAIL! Try “brouhaha!”
                          -
                          SA spouts: FAIL. Christians don’t HAVE religiously based dietary restrictions, unless you count the Catholic no meat on Friday thing:
                          -
                          YOU FAIL. Plenty of Christian faiths have dietary restrictions. Eastern Orthodox Christianity, Roman Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Baptists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, individuals who follows the cloven-hoof prohibition in the Bible, just to name a few.
                          -
                          SA spouts: FAIL again that you overlooked that point I stated clearly enough.
                          -
                          YOU FAIL. You said “fundie” and that’s IT. What’s a fundie? Define it. Are the aforementioned faiths fundies? If so, is Judaism fundie? LOL!
                          “The creator of “Christian Salt” is retired barber Joe Godlewski…one-time Catholic who now holds Bible studies in his home, Godlewski is a longtime entrepreneur. In 1998, he founded a kielbasa sausage business now run by a nephew. In 2000, he introduced the Stretch & Catch, a fishing gizmo that he says was copied and buried by foreign competitors.”
                          -
                          SA spouts: FAIL. No sect of Judaism I’ve ever heard of makes that distinction. Who does?
                          -
                          YOU FAIL. Just because you haven’t “heard of” it doesn’t make it false. There are three kinds of Kosher. Many choose to embrace all three, even the “parve” option. Wanna read more about them? Google it. It’s the way I’ve learned up to this point.
                          -
                          SA spouts: FAIL. Judaism is acknowledged as a protected legal class because it is a minority religion and religion is itself a protected class under US law.
                          -
                          YOU FAIL. Shaare-Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, No. 85-2156.
                          -
                          SA spouts: Moreover, the way you fly off the handle and sling insults when challenged without having a factual, reasoned basis for your position – and the way you accuse others of bigotry rather than face your own biases – reminds me very strongly of someone we all know to (FAIL) well. Someone who is the weakest link. Perhaps it’s time to say goodbye.
                          -
                          Talking to youself, I see.
                          YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FAIL. GOOD-BYE!
                          lol

                        • April says:

                          lol!
                          Let me rephrase. The way I’ve “learned” up to this point includes the categories meat, milk, and neutral, which fish is, according to my hub’s family.
                          I’ve also used Google to define things and terms I don’t understand.

                        • froofrou says:

                          So you’re telling a man who is Jewish how to be Jewish because you converted? Oh my dear, wow.
                          -
                          And “According to my hub’s family” is hardly fact, darling. Not when you’re directing that at someone who, as he’s said, has lived it for 41 years. I wouldn’t exactly consider what you can Google and find on the first link you see to be fact. Wanna try again?

                        • April says:

                          Where did I tell anyone HOW to be Jewish? Point that out.
                          I said how “I” learned, and nothing else. Did I say SA HAD to live like I do to be considered a Jew? Nope. Just because you’re born into something doesn’t mean you know everything there is to know about it.
                          Take what SA said at face value, or find out for yourself by doing the research. It’s up to you if you want to remain totally ignorant. I cited sources to back up what I have learned.
                          And I use Google to answer certain questions because now that we habe the internet there ARE such things as stupid questions.
                          lol!

                        • froofrou says:

                          Where are your cites, exactly? As I said, just saying you Goggled something or asked your husband’s parents, is not a cite. Other than that, you haven’t cited anything.

                        • April says:

                          And one more point.
                          SA’s statements are taken as fact, despite clear evidence to the contrary.
                          I am castigated for refuting those statements, and when I anecdotally cite my husband’s multi-generational Jewish family traditions, which are backed up by the very facts I have stated, I am wrong.
                          It’s amusing, really.
                          SA, I would like to see you refute anything I stated with fact.
                          Life is a learning process, and if my aunts-and uncles in law are wrong, please do let me know, so I can point it out and wash fewer dishes. They are, after all, the ones mentor us.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Ok, so now your husband is a multi-generational Jew? Wanna go back on your previous statement that you and he are both converts? Which is it, April? You can’t have it both ways.
                          -
                          The link is under my name. That’s how we cite, dear.

                        • April says:

                          My husband’s parents died, which is why we were studying in the first place. I said family, not parents.
                          -
                          You know very well that links don’t work well here, so I gave plenty of information for someone to look things up themselves. Believe me, I tried to link more than once, and the posts kept disappearing.
                          -
                          I cited Supreme Court case law regarding people of the Jewish persuasion being categorized byt the Supremes as a race.
                          -
                          I cited an article regarding the originator of Christian salt, who was anything but a “fundie” (whatever that means) but rather a businessman.
                          -
                          I provided information about Christians with dietary restrictions.
                          -
                          I provided the word for “neutral” foods so people can clearly see there are three categories.
                          -
                          What more can I do, since links are nigh impossible? Did you read the post prior to the one where I cited generations of Jewish traditions?

                        • froofrou says:

                          Links work just fine, darling. As I said, there is one under my name.
                          -
                          Also, you might like this one:

                          http : //y ourargumentisinvalid. com/ wp-content/uploads/2009/03/this_baloney_is_smiling.jpg
                          -
                          Take out the spaces, and you have another reason why you’re incorrect.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Also, if your husband’s parents died, and he was raised by family, he would have been raised Jewish. Especially if they’re as expert on Judaism as you claim for them to be. You fail again.

                        • April says:

                          See? You can’t put links in the body of your post either. Thanks for making my point for me!
                          If you could, there wouldn’t be any spaces to take out — it would ppear and you wouldn’t worry about it disappearing!
                          Thanks for the help — the links you requested are coming!
                          LOL!
                          LINK!
                          =
                          Classification of foods
                          =
                          To prevent the consumption of forbidden mixtures, foods are divided into three categories.
                          =
                          * meat (Yiddish: fleischig, פליישיג; Hebrew: basari‎, בשרי)
                          * dairy (Yiddish: milchig, מילכיג; Hebrew: halavi, חלבי)
                          * parve (or pareve; from the Yiddish word parev (פרווה), meaning neutral)
                          =
                          Food in the parve category includes fish, fruit, vegetables, salt, non-organic foods, etc.; among the Karaites, Ethiopian Jews and some Persian Jewish communities it also includes poultry, but other Jewish groups consider poultry to count as meat. However, classical Jewish authorities argue that foods would lose their parve status if they are treated in such a way that they absorb the taste of milk or meat during cooking[47], soaking[48][49][50], or salting[51].

                        • froofrou says:

                          Yes, because Wikipedia is the fount of all knowledge. Oh, wait a second, you’ve already been outed as a Google/Wiki-Jew. Link under my name, darling. Want to find something better?
                          -
                          Also, want to back up your claim that Baptists follow the “cloven hoof” rule?

                        • April says:

                          They died while I was pregnant and we were searching for a faith for our children and to sustain us. He grew up with parents of divergent faiths, neither of whom practiced. Which is why I am empathetic to bigotry against many religions.
                          Glad that my revelation makes you feel superior.
                          -
                          Link.
                          I considered Rastafarianism.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Out of curiosity, where are you from?

                        • April says:

                          Where did I say Baptists didn’t eat pork? I said they had dietary restrictions, and they do, in most instances. They don’t imbibe alcohol, which is a dietary restriction. You may want to actually read what I said before you call me out on it
                          =
                          {lenty of Christian faiths have dietary restrictions. Eastern Orthodox Christianity, Roman Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Baptists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, individuals who follows the cloven-hoof prohibition in the Bible, just to name a few.
                          -

                        • April says:

                          Originally, or now? And you?

                        • froofrou says:

                          Both.

                        • April says:

                          Link to parve as being useful to all faiths.

                        • April says:

                          I am of Asiatic descent and am American.
                          You?

                        • froofrou says:

                          Are you a first-generation American?

                        • April says:

                          No. Are you?

                        • froofrou says:

                          So where does the ESL fit in?
                          -
                          And I’m nowhere close to first gen.

                        • April says:

                          You can’t be first generation if you weren’t born here, can you?

                        • froofrou says:

                          I’m not sure, I figured you would know.

                        • April says:

                          Just so you know, your calling me a W/G Jew (I’m stealing that, by the way, to show my converted friends) doesn’t offend me in the slightest. You’re darned right that I’d rather look everything up so I don’t appear daft when trying to discuss issues. It’s way easier than interpreting the meanings of scripture. Have you ever tried to read any of the Tanakh for basic understanding? LOL!
                          I’m not reluctant to ask, but I want to know what the answer is before I DO ask or try to join a conversation.
                          I know it makes you feel great to call me that, but since I acknowledged it as teh truth from the get-go don’t feel too self-important.
                          LOL! I’ve decided to call us Wikoogle Jews!! My friends will LOVE it!

                        • April says:

                          I do know, but it has no bearing on my life.
                          My husband has always been a citizen, so as far as my children are concerned what generation any of us are doesn’t matter in the least. They are multi-generational Americans and I’m their mother.
                          By mutual agreement, we don’t discuss details of my youth.
                          Perhaps when we are elderly.

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    Oh, you WERE dropped on your head as a baby. I’m so very sorry, I wouldn’t have been so mean if I knew you really were. How’s your brother Sloth, by the way?

                    • April says:

                      At least my mother loved me enough to get medical attention after dropping me. Yours, apparently, just kicked you in the corner and continued huffing on her crack pipe.

                      • Jane St.Clair says:

                        I love how you froth at the mouth, it adds a certain je ne sais quois to your insanity.

                        • April says:

                          LOL! My insanity? Hmmm. You’re the one stalking someone who wasn’t even talking to you in the first place!
                          When you can’t refute the truth, you check Encarta for teh big words.
                          Too funny!

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          True story about je ne sais quois – my in-laws have no knowledge of French and I do, albeit what amounts to a patois. They came across some women one day speaking French, and deigned to ask them what “je ne sais quois” meant. As you can imagine, the answer was, “I don’t know what,” which prompted them to ask again (presumable louder and with more diction,) “What. does. je. ne. sais. quois. mean?” Which led to…well, you know.

                          When I explained it to them we all ended up laughing heh.

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          Wow, Anniee, that’s like a “Who’s on First” skit in French! :D

              • Anniee451 says:

                I do understand your point, fwiw. But Kosher laws come from the Old Testament Levitical law; and Christian products come largely from marketing concepts. There is nothing inherently wrong with producing “Christian” products; there is also nothing inherently Christian about doing so. Sometimes people stretch it into something that becomes a bit bizarre.

              • rhorho says:

                “Christians, however, can’t have the equivalent without being considered racists.

                Show us where anyone here accused Christians being racists for eating something. I’ll save you some time: You can’t. Is it bizarre and stupid? Of course. Is it racist? No.

                If you make wild, unproven claims, expect ridicule. It’s really that simple.

                • April says:

                  This insinuates Christians are racists. Read slowly, so you understand where the naughty parts are.
                  But because it’s had (gasp! horrors!) rabbis supervising its production, its been tainted by Teh Jewish, which is like Teh Gay but slightly less contagious and less socially acceptable to recoil in horror from openly.

                  • rhorho says:

                    April, take your time: Define “race.”

                    • April says:

                      In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the “Jewish race” or the “Italian race” as well as the “Negro race,” so that is what the legislators intended to protect.

                      • rhorho says:

                        From the same article you swiped [LINK],

                        Is Judaism a race? If you were to say so, most Jews would think you were an antisemite!

                        April, take MORE time: Define “race.”

                        • April says:

                          Doesn’t matter what you say.
                          The law of the United States defines Jews as a race in order to be able to prosecute for hate crimes. Obviously you disagree that they deserve a protected status under anti-discrimination laws.
                          Besides, not even the Jewish people can agree on whether they are a race.
                          So you think I used the wrong word. Does it make the statement any less racist/bigoted/ignorant.
                          Nope.
                          And I didn’t swipe it. I can’t make the link work.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Strawman fallacy: “Obviously you disagree that they deserve…”

                          You understand that you can’t win this one.

                          Better luck next time. :-)

                        • April says:

                          Win what one? Everyone can read the racist/bigoted/ignorant statment made by the commenter and judge it accordingly.
                          It has nothing to do with what either one of us say about it.
                          Protest away. But what’s logically obvious is you disagree that the Jews are a race, despite their protected status, which logically follows that you disagree that they are deserving of the classification, and thus, the status.
                          Who said anything about winning? You’re the one that seems to believe there is anything to win.
                          I’m just protesting against racism/bigotry/ignorance.

                        • rhorho says:

                          You are not a mind reader, it’s plain. I have the advantage here, in that many people know my stances through previous conversations and arguments.

                          What’s “logically obvious” to you has no basis in reality. Your “logic” doesn’t flow. Protected status and race are not equal. You’re comparing apples and ceiling fans. Any conclusion that you reach equating that which is not equal is terminally flawed: Garbage in; garbage out.

                          You obviously understood where I was going, because you never defined “race.”

                          Here is your fail, in your own words:

                          Wow. There’s a double standard. Jews gotta have their food prepared Kosher, which is wOOt great and we have to understand, and be tolerant, and embrace their decision. Christians, however, can’t have the equivalent without being considered racists. Way to be an a@@hole.

                          I’m just protesting against racism/ bigotry/ ignorance.

                          Ah–How far you’ve come!

                          Want to make a strike against racism, bigotry and ignorance, do you?

                          Start at home, Dear.

                        • April says:

                          The Supremes defined them as a race, not a protected status.
                          Deal with it.
                          My fail? I agree Jews can have their food however they want.
                          So can Christians.
                          What about your fail, Dear, in assuming what I am racially an d religiously.
                          Hubby and I are converts!
                          ROFLMAO!!!!

                        • rhorho says:

                          What about your fail, Dear, in assuming what I am racially an d religiously.

                          Quote me. Put up or shut up.

                          Oh, and be sure and tell “hubby” that you’ve told the internet that you’ve converted to win fake points on the internet, okay? I’m sure he (imaginary or not) will be proud of you!

                          Your words have already given you away.

                          Is the failure hard to take? Just grab another name, and start over. Oops, I see that advice has already been taken. You won’t trick anyone for long, because you can’t shake the FAIL that follows you like a shadow.

                        • April says:

                          Were you dropped on your head as a baby? There are no Christian requirements concerning food consumption. There ARE a lot of Jewish requirements. No one is saying you can’t have your own salt, we’re only laughing at you if you do because it has NO RELIGIOUS SIGNIFICANCE AT ALL.
                          -
                          Oops! Hivemind. It wasn’t actually you that said it, but a member of your hive!
                          Who am I trying to trick? You?
                          LOL!
                          You =/= taref. Racist.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Oh, so to make yourself seem *right*, you have to make me responsible for the opinions of others.

                          Go back and look for any sign that I stated an opinion on the subject. If you’re feeling lazy, I’ll save you the trip: I didn’t.

                          You fail again, racist.

                        • April says:

                          That’s what I thought.
                          Eizo efes!

                        • April says:

                          If you didn’t want to own the discussion, why did you get involved?
                          Feeling a bit warmish under that collar?
                          LOL!

                        • rhorho says:

                          Calling me a loser in Hebrew, when I’ve clearly pointed out your fails must make you feel so happy about yourself. I’ll leave you to your delusions. Have another drink.

                        • April says:

                          Let’s see if this one posts.
                          -
                          So you’re not Hitler, you’re Goebbels.
                          You’re not responsible for the racism,
                          you’re reproducing and agreeing with the propaganda!
                          LOL! And I’M the racist.
                          Shalom, faux-lib.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Have another drink. Pretty soon you’ll feel loads better about yourself.

                        • April says:

                          It’s not Friday.
                          Gods wounds you really are a racist, aren’t you?
                          How sad for you. Other races offer much.

                        • rhorho says:

                          I told you to put up or shut up, and you made no offer of proof (because there is none), so you are a liar. You’re a liar and a bigot (and I’ve proven so).

                          Go get a candy bar. You’ve had a bad day.

                        • minerva146 says:

                          Rho, you don’t have a big enough troll stick… you know better. What’d I miss? is this a new misguided soul or a new sock?

                        • rhorho says:

                          LOL! *hugs Min*

                          It’s a new sock.

                          *hands Minerva a shiny new stick*

                          Care to take a few whacks? :)

                        • April says:

                          Nope. Not a liar. You did not make the statement, and I acknowledged that, but you are sure enough defending it.
                          Will you face the firing squad, with the rest that were just parroting the party line, then?
                          Call me a bigot all you want.
                          I’ve seen it in action, and accusing Christians of Jew hating just because they wantto market their own product, while still bigotry, is mild.
                          What is this overweening need to win, and prove you’re a winner?
                          Was daddy too high to root for you at your softball games?
                          LOL!
                          You’re the one who seems to need the candy bar. It appears I have taken candy from the proverbial baby, since you are reduced to calling me a liar and a bigot, when really it’s just your reflection.
                          Now, if you’d just agree that slan agent’s statement “I guess some born-again fundie types felt the need to produce their own yummy pretzel salt that didn’t have icky Jew cooties” was really rather “bigoted” (since Jews aren’t really a race in America, according to you), we can agree.
                          If it hurts too much, play role reversal. Put “Christian” in the role of “Jew” and see what happens to your mind. After all, you all scoff at the Bible, so why would Biblical definitions of how one’s supposed to eat matter in this scenario?
                          LOL!
                          Yep? Nope? Makes no matter to me.

                        • April says:

                          How am i misguided?
                          I called someone who was spouting racist (bigoted) statements a racist.
                          Wait..I thought you were liberals, and disagreed with racism.
                          OOps on me, I guess!

                        • froofrou says:

                          Read, dahlink. You were called a sock after the initial question of your identity.

                        • rhorho says:

                          If you’re not high, you need a shrink.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Above @April, of course, LOL!

                        • minerva146 says:

                          I’m not seeing any cohesive arguments other than “I know you are, but what am I.” That about sum it up?

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Min:

                          Well, there’s that, and “a bigot of a bigot is a bigot.” Otherwise, you haven’t missed much.

                        • April says:

                          Why are you so obsessed with calling me footwear?
                          Fine. You’re a shoe.
                          And why do I need a shrink? Because I disagree with racism, and it angers me when people make erroneous assumptions about others’ races and religions rather than taking the time to learn about them?
                          I think it’s really closed-minded of anyone to assume racism and assign motives to someone just because they market their own brand of anything.
                          It’s a free market, and I make and sell authentic kimchi and Jangajji, which both have significance in my culture.
                          Does that mean I think those who buy it from the store are any less religious or loyal to their race because they don’t.
                          Sad. Really sad.

                        • minerva146 says:

                          Ah the Clueless Wonders ride again… Pretty sure I know who this sounds like.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Yeah, the spinning off-topic spiral and some other tells have me thinking your way, too.

                        • April says:

                          I disagree with you = I’m crazy, I’m footwear (which I now know means yhou think I am someone you dislike), I’m not the “winner.”
                          Fine. All your prostrations and assertions don’t make me any less correct, or the statement any less bigoted/racist/ignorant, which is perfectly fine with me.
                          Unless it was meant as sarcasm, in which case this whole discussion has been an exercise in futility.
                          lol!

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          The Supremes defined them as a race, not a protected status.

                          What bearing does a 1960s black girl vocal trio have?

                • HairySexyTroll says:

                  Ahem. Methinks April may be correct here…sounds a tad bigoted to me, ladies and germs… :lol:

        • Anniee451 says:

          I guess because if a secular item is good, a christian one would be even better? So that you can consume solely “christian” brand items or something? Who knows. It’s silly.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            It’s weird. Catholics (and a few others) tend to view salvation as a checklist. Get these done and you can go to heaven (yes, I know it’s more complicated than that, don’t freak out bible scholars) whereas most protestant religions view it as a God’s Grace sort of thing, God decides, bottom line. So surrounding yourself with only Christian media and items seems strange to me, as well since it’s not getting you into heaven any easier.

            • ubr says:

              not everything is about getting YOU into heaven. in a capitalist society you vote with your dollars. some christians choose to make sure that the support other christians. there’s nothing to it but that…

              • Anniee451 says:

                Huh. I have to agree with UBR here. (Sorry ubr!) There is that.

                Supporting Christian businesses is akin to the Ebony Project except with Christianity instead of race-based businesses. Not something I am particularly interested in, but a valid pursuit nonetheless.

                Still…ya’ know, Christian versus Kosher salt? That IS funny.

  14. If Barack Obama’s other orifice could speak, what would he say?(parody) BHO Taileprompter

  15. ElbieSee says:

    I’m just glad you guys actually like this one…

  16. Purple says:

    mmmmm..

    Nothing like religious humility.

    Love the ‘cedes popey!

  17. For those who are bored, new lolz in my linkage.

  18. trolldujour says:

    The Beverly Hillbillys could have used one of those.

  19. Safford says:

    Love it

  20. snort says:

    Is that a tupperware ™ popemobile?… haz that been ‘burped’?

  21. hee hee says:

    Who is this protecting? Him? or us?

  22. Poodle Groomer says:

    The sticker on the window says:
    Break glass in case of Reformationist.

  23. fw says:

    My question is, if you shake the Popemobile, does it have the white snow flakey stuff, or does it have “holy” glitter sparkles?

  24. lolwat? says:

    Vacuum sealed for freshness*

    *Freshness should not be confused with purity

  25. Delta Sierra says:

    Then why are their ideas so stale?

  26. daMamma says:

    Priceless!

  27. Anniee451 says:

    Funny – I like it. This blog is officially back on track to being a pleasant and funny diversion :) Well done!

  28. charro says:

    Somehow, I doubt the Pope has ever been high.

  29. Annie says:

    So keeping him on the shelf next to my mint condition Dahli Llama! (begs for forgiveness to anyone uptight enough to be offended)


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