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Eerily true…..
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No, no meglet. It’s just a jokey way of pointing out that the thread pattern in the nest got broken. No worries
thanks pittypat, am running on basically no sleep so probably taking things the wrong way
I like that for an alternate caption.
That’s a good one.
Thanks guys!
ROFLMAO! SO sad, so true…but it is pretty here!!!!
I know, I’m just thankful to have a job right now so I can still afford to live here!
I have had a job here for 3 years- but I just starting to be able to afford to live here
It is pretty though- and the weather is easy to deal with…
nice to hear. i’m near an evil city…
Read Atlas Shrugged first before arriving to here.
Read Strunk and White before posting here.
Froo with the ZING!
*rereads Harry Potter* I’m sorry, what were you guys talking about?
Flaming. Cope.
Yeah, he totally is.
Boned Buckbeak, too.
Pork sword FTW!
I love Harry Potter, but J.K. Rowling kinda pisses me off with her, “I’ll never write another fantasy and probably not another kids book again because I want to be like my favorite author Jane Austin” attitude. What, too good for the genre that made you richer than the Queen? Like it was good enough when she was a single mother and didn’t have a job but now that she’s a “real” author she wants to write more intellectually. I still really, really, really love the books though. *guilty*
I didn’t know that. Ok, I’m irritated now too. You don’t decide that you’re a “real” author any more than you decide that you’re a good person. That has to show through actions and the views of those around you. She’s a trad.
She hasn’t come right out and said it that way, but that’s the attitude I’m reading. She has said she won’t write another fantasy and probably not a kids book and that seems snobbish to me. I mean, why would you completely dismiss it as a possibility? Ack, I have to start getting ready for work or I won’t make it on time. Grrrr.
Oh, well, given the years she spent writing the HP books I can understand wanting to try writing something different. It does sound a little snotty the way she put it, but you know, she’s probably sick of hearing people ask if she’s going to do a series about Harry’s kids, or a prequel…
Euch. But after she’s dead someone is bound to write about Harry Potter’s kids…. Like that woman who wrote a sequel to Pride and Prejudice. There is no emoticon to describe my view of that book. I didn’t read all of it (too painful) but the only good thing I noticed was that the pages were paper and would pobably burn easily…
*probably
V.C. Andrews. [shudder]
Ooh, don’t even get me started on that series. There were about three good books, and that was it, with the best being the first. Afterwards, it wasn’t just phoning it in. If they had held a seance to ask Andrews’ opinion, I’m sure that her ghost would have b!tch slapped the hell out of each of the “writers” who are continuing her stories.
Totally agreed!
Isn’t that the book where the kids sleep with each other? One of my friends told me they get married later in the series, which seems ridiculous. I can buy boning your sister when you’ve been locked in an attic your whole life and don’t know any better, but once you get out I’d think you’d start looking around to widen your gene pool.
Is that who she was?
I am (with difficulty) refraining from writing bad words about her… The bit that really annoyed me was the bit with the repeat of the Lady Catherine/Elizabeth confrontation. Except, instead of “Elizabeth are you getting married?” it was “Elizabeth are you pregnant?”
…And also the cheesy ending where Elizabeth falls down the stairs and Darcy is all upset and they kiss and make up. Nauseating.
Sorry, I’m being stupid: I thought you were talking about the hack that wrote the P+P sequel.
V.C. Andrews wrote the “Flowers in the Attic” books. At least, she wrote the first two, I believe, and then she died. After that, her heirs (who are money grubbing attention wh0res) continued the series based on “notes they found in her desk” and completely ruined it.
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Much like Louis L’Amour’s heirs are doing with his legacy.
I’m glad no-one tried to finish off R.L. Stevenson’s “Weir of Hermiston.” Most editions of the bookscontain the notes which tell you what was going to happen next though, which works quite well but I can’t help but wish he hadn’t died so soon…
Agreed. On the other hand, I find I really do want to read “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies”…. [link]
Go see Colin.
Sh!tbaskets. Fail.
Zombies with heart.
DT, you havin’ some linktile dysfunction today?
DTs.
Oh, and that does look good! Love me a good zombie movie.
Me too!
from horrortalkdotcom
Now comes UK filmmaker Marc Price and his made-for-nothing, independent zombie movie, Colin. In a genre that has run out of ideas in the mainstream, and is a firm favorite for aspiring low-budget directors, Price has crafted something that is genuinely unique and original.
In the first few minutes of the movie we see our anti-hero, Colin, die from his injuries sustained during a zombie attack in his home. From his subsequent rebirth the rest of the film follows him as he adjusts to life as one of the walking dead. Watching him come to terms with his new life is like watching a mixture of a small child and an animal; the innocence of his interaction with his new environment, coupled with the instinct to feed and survive.
Oh aye, that looks amusing. It was lying around the bookshop but I was too stingy to buy it…
“It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains”
I looked at the first few pages and was quite impressed by the way the author really was writing with Austen’s voice…
Somewhat unrelated, I got this for my mom for her birthday. [link] It’s a cookbook where each recipe is written in the voice of a different author.
Oooohh! Want Onion Tart!
-droools at book-
I thought I’d heard that the author of Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies was going to do another classic book and mix it with vampires. I could be completely wrong though and confusing that tidbit in my brain with something else entirely.
“Pride andPrejudice, and Zombies” is excellent got it for my birthday last month……
I also recommend “The Undead and Philosophy ( Chicken Soup for the Souless )
Just ordered the chicken soup book for the BF! Thanks!
Viking, your ideas are GORGEOUS. Didyaknow that?
*grins*
what about the hack job that was done as the follow up to gone with the wind? where rhett came back to scarlett… nu-uh would never have happened.
the really sick thing is, i think margaret mitchell wrote that shit-fest. ugh.
I don’t think she did.
Alexandra Ripley.
“Tomorrow is another day.” I hate that ending. The book was good-ish but I hated Scarlett and I hated that line… I thought she might have given up lying to herself after 10 years of being around Rhett…
she did give up lying to herself. but she knew that if she sat around mourning for rhett she’d never do anything again. so she decided to just move on the way she’d always moved on… not thinking about it and going on with life as normal.
i happen to LOVE scarlett. i love melly too, but in a totally different way. and i adore rhett. he’s a horrific person but i adore him… ashley wilkes is just so boring.
Yeah, Ashley wasn’t much at all… Scarlett describes him as an empty suit later on, doesn’t she? And I like Rhett. You can’t help but like him because Scarlett can’t help but like him. I like the way he knows exactly what people are thinking, too. Melly reminds me of a friend of mine so I’m quite attached to her and Scarlett… Well hate was perhaps too strong a word. You can understand why she is the way she is but I have never wanted to shake a character so badly. I just wanted to scream at her to sort her head out.
And I agree that sweeping things under the rug was Scarlett’s way of dealing with things but it was part of what got her into this life in the first place. She always managed to survive but it cost her friends and integrity. She did give up pretending to find meaning in the shallow things that had dominated her life and I was pleased she did that but at the very end she still talked about getting Rhett back. I just don’t think she was strong enough to just accept things.
not to mention… when rhett is played by clark gable he’s rouge-ishly good looking too. ashley was just very “meh”. considering i saw the film many years before i read the book, i’ve always had those images with me. i think almost everyone was perfectly cast too…
i’m sure down the line scarlett did come up with some plan to get rhett back. but it would never work. he’d loved her since that first day at 12 oaks and she’d never even paid attention to him until the day he finally left her. he loved her for so many years i don’t think he had enough left in him to go back to her… it’d make him too vulnerable and you KNOW she’d hurt him again. it’s scarlett, she’s not exactly a compassionate person.
Margaret Mitchell was long dead, when her relatives decided to have a contest or something to pick an author for a sequel. I have done my best to pretend it never happened…and have avoided any books by Ms. Ripley as well. I sooo don’t want to know what tripe was created!
i posted something along these lines but i must have said something the moderators didn’t like. it was flagged for moderation and has yet to show up. didn’t swear in it or anything… which is a feat for me. so not really sure why it didn’t show.
Weird. But the power behind the curtain is somewhat absolute. Glad I could express it for both of us, then.
Yeah I’m still waiting to see how the ending to the Wheel of Time comes out since they had to get a writer to finish it from the creators notes. At least in that case, Robert Jordan knew he was dying and preserved a LOT of info in notes and recordings he left with his family to pass the torch with. Hopefully turns out well *keeps fingers crossed*
me too! i’ve got all but the last one he wrote and crown of swords….i’ve read them to death, but the good part is, with brain damage, i can’t remember the story so it’s almost like they’re new each time….
Every time I see a Robert Jordan book I think, “Ha! You didn’t manage to sucker me in you bastard!” I did waste too much of my time and money on Terry Goodkind’s Sword of Truth series and Laurell K. Hamilton’s Anita Blake books, but I’m free of both of them and their suckitude now.
*kicks rocks* I likes Hamilton’s “Blake” series and I’m not sucky *kicks rocks again*
I like the first 6 or so Anita Blake books. Then it got kind of…well…
I made it through Obsidian Butterfly, which is number 9, I think. I actually liked that one because it was all about Edward, who I love. Richard can die a horrific painful death for all I care, and Anita can follow. The only ones I like are Edward, Jean Claude, and Asher.
I get the feeling that with both the Anita Blake and the Merry Gentry characters, Hamilton is writing a massive Mary Jane. At least, the Mary Jane she wants to be.
LOL, Viking Gal. Best description… *EVER*
VG, that is exactly what I think! How did someone who only had sex once in her life go to banging everything that moves (and some things that don’t)? So out of character. Although, I admit, the constant, “I’m a monster and so is everyone I know and I just don’t know what to do about it waaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah” crap always got on my nerves.
Well, yeah. And how everyone always had long flowing hair in dramatic colors…and barely wore dramatic clothing…and the descriptions of same got longer and longer…and… Sigh. Anita used to be a LOT of fun, back when she was raising zombies for a living!
Well, to be fair, she introduces Richard in the third book and he pretty much sucks from the start. But I can pretend the series ends with book six with her picking Jean Claude who is way cooler and less of a god awful whiner.
TBH, I found Richard kind of hot. Until he ate someone. Then, ick. That did provide some reason for him to be whiny. But the whine-ing quotient then proceeded to rise above tolerable. OK, how about that you and I make a pact that the series ends with book 6?! Then if we still want LKH, we can enjoy the REAL Anita Blake, or with full foreknowledge move over to sex-crazed fairy land.
Ooooh, did I hear sex-crazed fairies? I’m THERE!
I also don’t buy that Richard is a middle school teacher. No way would he have time for lesson planning with all his laying around Jean Claude’s place all naked on weeknights (which is where Anita meets him) and the aforementioned eating people. As for your pact, that’s a deal!
You know, the middle-school teacher part was probably part of the reason I found Richard sexy. But you are SO right–he didn’t have any time to do course-planning! At first it seemed possible, because he wasn’t around much, but in after his first appearances…
The pact is sealed!
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And yes, Tyler, the fairies are sex-crazed…
So, sex-crazed fairies, shouldn’t you have introduced me & them already? It’s like a match made in heaven!
Joran doesn’t suck, just some of the middle of the series gets bogged down in subplots. The main storyline is great, and well written. The characters have a bunch of depth, and for bonus points each represent a figure in norse mythology
* Jordan It’s Jordan that doesn’t suck
You mean the book Austen co-wrote with Seth Graham-Greene?
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Nah, that looks fun. I mean “Pemberley” by Emma Tennant… I think some other hacks also tried to do the same thing and write a sequel. They probably have their own ring of hell…
“Like that woman who wrote a sequel to Pride and Prejudice.”
But on the other hand, if we get a “Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets and Zombies” the way we have a “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies” I’ll be more than happy.
I get that too, I know Sir Arthur Conan Doyle tried to kill off Holmes simply because he was sick of writing about him and L. Frank Baum tried to end his Wizard of Oz series, but couldn’t because of the fans. I don’t remember now, and if I had more time I’d look up a quote, but in this case it came off as dismissive to the genre and imo, not a good way to thank the fans that put her where she is. More than likely it’s just the way I took it, though.
Makes me think of the plot of Misery.
“I’m your number one fan, Sir Arthur!”
*nods enthusiastically*
i love the HP series as much as the next girl who grew up reading them in her teens… but i’m ticked at that too.
although, it’s really funny to see stephenie meyer (twilight’s hack author) trying to do the same thing because she really really really wishes she were JKR and was awesome enough to pull it off.
Despite the hype and drooling teenage girls twilight was never as good as Harry Potter.
Horrors! Plagiarism!
i know i’ll regret saying this… but i like the twilight books.
they’re horrible stories with horrible morals and are incredibly thinly veiled mormon tales… but i like them. bella annoys me to no end and edward is crazy abusive (as is jacob in new moon and eclipse) but i like them. they’re /just/ well enough written that you want to see what happens next.
SM as the new JKR? not a chance…
A lot of things about Twilight annoyed me but (up until the fourth book) I found them to be quite enjoyable and engaging. Not much to them and not very good the second time you read them but readable enough. Perhaps SM could have been a better writer if she’d become famous later and wasn’t under pressure to write crap like “Breaking Dawn.” And if Twilight wasn’t so famous she might be able to develop some other, better, books…
After the fourth book I wanted to take all four of them, set them on fire, and dance around the little flames naked under a full moon while sticking little pins into a Stephanie Meyer voodoo doll.
froo – i didn’t think you had it in you! this old hag is impressed
If I could think of a way to incorporate a goat and some chicken blood, I would, but Meyer pisses me off too bad to think straight
you know those twi-hards who went at breaking dawn with a red pen to “correct” the story. i would have red-lined everything past the first chapter.
a bonfire probably would have done the job just as well though.
froo – a full moon, eh? jacob black fan??
HELL NO. I can’t stand that little whiny twit. I hate him more than I hate Bella. The full moon because I figure if I can call Satan to do evil things to Stephanie Meyer, the full moon is probably working in my favor
haha. i’m not a fan of either of them (edward or jacob) really. but if i had to choose between the two i’d probably go with jacob. he was way less of a douche to bella… at least until the end of eclipse then the douche came on full-bore.
Both of them are so gawdawful whiny that they deserve each other. At least Edward had a bit of a spine and tried to do the right thing. Jacob just horned his way in regardless.
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And the “storyline” with Jacob imprinting on Renesme (God, kill me now)…….ARGH. I wanted to find Meyer at that moment and donkey punch her right in the throat. Neat little bow, anyone? Anyone????
the imprinting made me really REALLY unhappy. especially when jake was developing (gasp) a real relationship with leah. meyer is a tool.
then with the whole battle thing i was hoping she wouldn’t puss out and have it all end nicely and that’s EXACTLY what she did. i was hoping for a blood bath. half the cullens decimated and the volturi going back to italy missing a few key people too. but nooooooo, everyone sat and talked about their feelings and it was all better. BULL! even JKR knew she had to kill important, fan loved, characters. dumbledore, mad eye, fred, lupin, tonks, sirius… ugh. meyer pussed out hardcore.
She could have killed off Bella, Jacob, and Alice, and I would have been much happier.
i kinda liked alice… but if i had to choose cullens to save emmett would be my first choice followed by jasper and then probably carlisle. esme was a character that was never developed enough for me to like… so she could die. rose was just so snotty until all of a sudden she and bella were bffs… so she could die. alice was ok, kinda fun, kinda annoying… so she was iffy. edward…… she never would have killed him, but it would have been such a sweet ending! and you have to leave bella alive to wallow in the knowledge that she brought all this death to the cullens and the wolves for all of eternity. and for the stupidly named kid… she should have continued at the fast paced aging and croaked at 17 or whatever.
i was ok with all the wolves actually. they could all live. paul was prolly my favorite. and the guy they cast for him in the movie (link) makes me VERY happy.
i’d take him home with me…
Oooooooh, pretty wolf
I’d take that home too!
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So you’d leave Bella with “the pain” instead of killing her? *thinks about it* Ok, I’m with you! Make the b!tch suffer for being such a brat!
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I pretty much hated the way she treated her father, too. The poor guy was trying to make things right and good for her, and she treated him like so much crap that she could sluff off on her way to what she wanted. Also, if I had been her parent and caught Edward in her room one time when he wasn’t supposed to be there, we would have a new way to kill vampires. I’d rip his skin off.
I guess I’m most annoyed with how perfect the scenarios were. No life works out like that. It’s never that easy. The hardest thing Bella had to do was choose what to eat that day, even with living around killer vampires. We need death, destruction, some kind of angst (that doesn’t involve lusting after your friend’s girl friend), and something SUBSTANTIAL to carry us through. I think that’s the biggest failing of those books. They aren’t in the slightest “realistic”, even in their own universe.
i thought you’d like the wolf too… lol. i posted a pretty james mcavoy for you on the “last one to take his hand off” LOL.
i would totally leave bella completely alone wallowing in her misery. it seems pretty fair. and yeah, she did treat charlie like crap. she didn’t even realize that he’d started boinking leah’s mom until it’d been really obvious for about half the book.
plus, edward staying the night. unfortunately he had the whole “know when charlie’s coming to the room” thing to his advantage. i can just imagine charlie’s reaction if he knew though. the police chief in him would definitely have taken over.
*taking a stance that i really REALLY don’t believe at all*
what do you mean bella’s life was so easy?! she left phoenix and the mother she loved… that was hard. she’s so clumsy she can’t walk 2 feet without ending up in the ER… that’s so not perfect. i mean, come on… it’s totally realistic that your entire life is crap until you meet an abusive controlling guy who wants to kill you and then everything is just perfect. and she DID have hard decisions… she had to choose between edward and jacob. the guy who she used when she missed the first one or the one who she was stupidly insanely in love with. i mean, that’s HARD. bella’s life was SOOOO hard.
I hope that hurt to type out. I hope your fingers are tingling and trying to strangle you on their own
it was easier than it should have been. i’ve been antagonizing a friend of mine who is OBSESSED with these books by doing that to her almost daily. i fall into the “crazed obsessed tween twihard” role almost too easily now.
Grawr. Twilight and its poorly developed characters and conflicts AND THE FANS making Tyler angrreee… You won’t like me when I’m angry.
she didn’t even realize that he’d started bonking leah’s mom.
Neither did I… It’s news to me…
Froo, I agree. Can I help? Especially with the naked bit.
Only if you bring all of Robert Patterson’s books with you to burn. I swear, bad writing should punishable by death from kittens licking your skin off.
Ouch. Painful, Froo, but so well-earned. I’ve read some crap authors in my time, especially some in the high fantasy section, but none as blatantly disrespectful to a well-followed modern-day myth (vampires as a sub-genre), nor wit such badly developed or idiotic characters, conflicts, and FANS.
Who is Robert Patterson?
What irritates me the most about Patterson is that he’s such a genius with plot! He sizzles, he burns! But he can’t develop said plot for sh!t. When he collaborates the books are better, but the next time I read one of his books (I keep getting sucked in……please kill me now) and a character dies, then comes back as though he can’t figure out how to advance the story without them, or the next time he switches voice (from first to third person) to narrate, I swear to God, I’m going to hunt him down and serve his liver with some fava beans.
Do you mean James Patterson?
Crap, JAMES Patterson. Sorry. He pisses me off so much that I’ve repressed his name.
Well, then, the reason you like the plot and not the writing is because all James Patterson does is an outline and then hands it off to some lackey to write. He used to take full credit until someone through a fit and now he puts the name in tiny print under his. I liked his first couple Maximum Ride books (young adult series) but the last couple seemed phoned in as well.
Licked to death by kittens is too good for him. You can only get away with POV changes if you’re Louis L’Amour, and only then if you’ve written so many books with the caliber of “The Sacketts” that it doesn’t matter any more.
I don’t know. Kelley Armstrong writes a series called Women of the Otherworld. A couple of hers have POV changes that work, although her last one had so many POV changes it didn’t. It all depends on how it’s handled. This doesn’t mean I’m not in favor of James Patterson’s death by kitten licking. By all means, go ahead with your diabolical scheme.
So long as no kittens are harmed in the process!
Maybe puppy licking instead? All in all, I like dogs better but find their tongues more unpleasant.
>.> Not that I would know about their tongues…. *CRAPCRAPCRAPSHH*T THEY’RE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT!*
I always get the feeling reading Patterson’s changes back and forth that he has no clue how to actually tell a story from either first person limited, third person limited, or third person omniscient without getting lost. It’s a cheap trick, and it’s beneath someone who calls himself a “writer”.
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Speaking of omniscient viewpoints, if you haven’t already, read a book called “The Lovely Bones” by Alice Sebold. It’s a beautiful and very rare use of first person omniscient, as the main character is narrating from Heaven. I really enjoyed the book.
I don’t know Tyler, kitteh tongues are like sandpaper. Dog tongues aren’t as rough but they have a problem knowing when to stop, whereas a cat will let you know it’s done with affection giving by biting you.
I’ve avoided Lovely Bones because I really hate when kids die. That’s a guarantee movie wrecker for me usually.
About the omniscient first person, Froo- what’s that book called again, that’s told from the point of view of Death, it’s based in the Holocaust, and is about two children? I LOVED that book. It, I think, is another example of the omniscient first person you’re talking about.
Tyler, I think you’re thinking of “The Book Thief.”
And I like the POV changes in”Atonement.”
Jane, the Lovely Bones has the main character die at the beginning, but the book is actually about her and her family dealing with it. It’s very well-written, and worth the cringe of the initial death. I still recommend it
I like them too- but I can’t re-read them, and have re-read all HP books MANY times….but I love trashy romance too—can be entertaining without being literature
. And when you are in 18 different directions at work, it is nice to not have to think too much with everything you read!
Comfort-food reading is a very good thing!
tha’ts what twilight is for me. my grandmother’s been in the hospital 9 weeks now and i’ve been re-reading twilight because it’s brainless and keeps me from flipping out from the stress. i’m almost done with breaking dawn and i think i’m going to start with HP 1 because grandma just had another surgery today and will most likely be in for another handful of weeks…
I love Laurell K Hamilton and her Meridith Gentry books. Hubby gets a secondary benefit out of the fairy smut, lol. I’m just now getting into her Anita Blake stuff, and it’s pretty good for some light reading with lots of angst.
i’ll keep those in mind.
I hit up the J.D. Robb series when the going gets tough. There are a lot of them, so it can be a good cushion. Helped me get through the first months after my father died, while my mother was taking all of her anger at being widowed out on me.
I hope that your grandmother’s surgery goes well, and that the long-term outcome is good.
No, LKH is dead to me! You want to talk about whining, no one in Twilight could whine harder than Anita Blake with a side of Richard. I do really like the J.D. Robb books, Viking Gal, and if Eve gets on my nerves Roarke is always the sh*t.
Like I said, I’m only just now getting into it, LOL. I still like Merry Gentry better, but you can see by my avatar that I’m a sucker for fairy stuff.
Oh I read the first Merry Gentry book as soon as it came out (I was working at a Waldenbooks and was manning their calendar kiosk and had nothing to do, so I grabbed it off the shelf and ended up taking it home) and then moved to the Anita Blake stuff. I only read the first two but remember liking it better than Anita Blake. Merry seemed to have a better handle on who she was than Anita ever does. However in both series I just couldn’t get over the fact that both characters were so obviously LKH’s fantasy version of herself.
LOL @ the Meredith Gentry books- I loved the Anita Blake series until the last couple books. When I read Hamilton’s books I’m looking for action, not erotica. A little bit is fine, but when I re-read Incubus Dreams, skipping through all the sex bits, there were only 150 pages left!
I only got, what, fifty pages into the Gentry books before her first S and M scene. I never finished the rest!
Mark, no offense, but when you’re reading… You SKIPPED the sex bits?
Haven’t read the series, but just sayin’.
Mark, Tyler, hubby actually REQUESTS that I read the naughty bits, because then he benefits from the….er………effects of the fairy smut. hehehe.
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*goes off to read books again*
My comfort fiction is “Lord of the Rings” or “Dracula”… I’ve loved them since I was about 11 (And now my sister’s discovered how good “Dracula” is. Yay!) so I know them well enough to just pick a random chapter in the middle and read what’s familiar.
If you like that stuff AC, you might want to give “Lair or the Whuite Wyrm” by Bram Stoker, and ER Edison (sp, but a good SF bookshop will know him) a try too.
Froo… -dribbles and crosses legs- Sorry.
@P4T, thanks. I’ve never heard of ER Edison and will have a look for him. I read another Bram Stoker: “The Jewel of seven stars” but I didn’t have a clue what the ending was all about…
AC, I didn’t get “Jewel of 7 Stars” either. Edison is the same sort of epic fantasy as Tolkein, and about the only other example I can think of that is pure fantasy rather than SF pre-Star Wars.
Sounds good…
But yeah, 7 stars, wth? There are two endings to it, I think… I read the sad ending and I’m told the happy one is even less coherent. Which one did you read?
I just read 7 Stars the once, and that was back when I was about your age I think (guessing 17 or 18?). I just wasn’t very impressed, but that’s the trouble with reading a true classic first; everything else is likely to be downhill. I have the same problem with Joseph Heller (Catch 22).
Regarding “Lair of the white wyrm”. I’ve not read the book, but the movie is quite the cult classic!
I’ve read all the HP books. Loved them. I don’t see myself reading them again. I have a hard enough time forcing myself to watch the movies since I already know what’s going to happen.
I reread Harry Potter at least once a year. The first two I kinda skim because they’re not the greatest but once I hit number three it’s on, I enjoy them just as much now as I did the first time.
My neighbor loved how she increased the reading level complexity as the character aged–which fit in perfectly with the increasing reading ability of her son. And probably JKR’s child, as well?
That reminds me, I need to read TLOR again.
Mine too. I read the first four when I was in second grade, which was when I was about the right age for those four. Later on, I was old enough to comprehend the rest of it.
I liked the second one… I could scare my sister when I read the Basilisk voice to her…
Well played, well played.
*golf clap*
*waits until it is poor enough for me to move back*
Should be any minute now.
True- You can buy small apartments for less then 200K now in many areas….practically giving them away! HAHA! but seriously- the low end has come down- the double wide trailers near the beach are going for less then 100K again…they were up near 500K when I first moved here (double wide trailers are NOT worth 500K, don’t care where you park them!!!).
I don’t think you could pay me enough to move back. I lived outside of L.A. for 20+ years and it sucked. It sucked so bad it was constantly windy in Arizona.
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Although, I will say Northern Cal isn’t as bad and would be much better if the could cut So Cal off from the rest of the state.
EASY THERE EDS! Southern California is AWESOME! You can’t get much better than San Diego, it’s resort-style living, all year long!
Ok, to be honest, SD isn’t as bad as what’s a little north. I did spend quite a bit of time there at one time in my life and there are some redeeming qualities (I love La Jolla!) Otherwise, I really don’t see myself ever going back. It’s enough that I have to pass through LAX on my way to other places.
I grew up in LA but I’ve lived in north SD county for about 12 years I guess…I love it down here. I live about 20 miles north of La Jolla. LA still has a feel of home about it, even though it’s dirty and crowded and ugly, there are some good bits. I’m glad I’m close enough to visit, and even gladder to come home to SD
Here, here! Born in Newport, raised in Carlsbad. Love it here! Downtown SD and Coronado are, although massively expensive, a great place to pass the time in. LA is too smoggy for me :S.
Ack! A great place in which to pass the time, I mean. Sorry, I’m sleepies
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THANK YOU. Screw the rest of California, SD is the only redeeming quality (born and raised for 18 years)
That’s ok eddie. We in upstate and western NY would be happy to stop having all our tax dollars leave our region because they get sucked into the black hole that is NYC.
It’s not all bad, Jane was born there, luckily further north, but still too loony and expensive for my taste, although we could see Russia from our window…wait — that was the ocean, it was in Alaska that we got to see something…
Someone stole my doggone name — well I did, but that’s cause I can’t figure out how to get those goofy avatar’s working for me. *grumbles, throws stuff, says bad words*
I can see your avatar, and it’s lovely
Thanks, froo… uh which one, the first was simple, this one is very complex, that and I somehow changed my name.. *sighs, kicks a can, grumbles*
Well, maybe, I can try again.
I see what looks like a road going toward a blue mountain. Is this a psyche test?
No, not a psyche test — maybe psycho (that would be me). I’m trying to find a good one. The mountain one I took out in New Mexico, but I’ll figure it out soon, I think.
i’m seeing lots of guys (and maybe gals too) in uniform. mayhaps i need to clear my cache??
No, I’m working through my computer challences once again — sorry!
I see a bunny. Do I win?
Quick — shoot it and stew it for Easter Dinner! Where’s Cheney when you need him?
Dammit, he’s waterboarding Gore! Get him, quick!
Is that why Al says the seas are rising?
To me, it looks like a green curtain and to the right of it a secret blue elixir. Like, the bottom of a shower with shampoo at the base.
“Al, this will be good for your sinuses. I promise.”
*damn carbon interface unit screw up again*
*pats charlie on the shoulder*
it’s ok.
I see YOU on your kayak, and the only reason I know that is because I’ve seen the picture full size. You can’t get too complex with avatars, they’re so small you can’t make them out.
Can you guess what mine’s of, Jane?
Changed it again… A.D.D. — in the attack!
-snifflesniffle- no?
Sorry, Tyler — they’re talking about girlie books and no longer multi-tasking.
I don’t think I’d qualify Laurel K Hamilton as girlie books. Kelly Armstrong, maybe… Ooops. Maybe Jane St. Clair wants you to THINK LKH is a girlie book author? Sorry Jane!
Meh. I iz multitasking. Are you close to Janie, can you poke her on the top of the head for me?
Is it a comic book Tyler? And for your information VG, Kelley Armstrong is shelved in the FANTASY section! It also has less sex than LKH’s smut parade! ;P
The mountain is much better, btw. Stick with it.
My friend edited it and made it say “I F*cking GLOW.” then posted it on Facebook, and since then it’s been the picture I liked best of me for two years now.
In my local B&N, Ms Armstrong is shelved in Romance. But yeah, LKH has waaaay more sex. Actually, because I have a friend in the B&D world, I figured out pretty early on that LKW is probably hanging with a dungeon master.
Now I’m wondering if DWN knows either my friend or LKH!
Literally, AND figuratively.
Hey, they may be fantasy, but still girlie… Thanks, I like the mountain too, thought about using a bridge, but thought in might attract too many trolls.
Cool effect Tyler!
At our local B&N she’s in fantasy, which is where she’s at in our local Borders and Waldenbooks as well. I wouldn’t classify it as romance simply because it doesn’t follow the guy and girl meet, have sex and adventure, live happily ever after, end book (possible cameos in future books but not about them) format.
Romance is kind of girl pr0n…all relationships and some naught.
LKH? She’s more like zombie-pr0n.
Charlie, how? Just wondering what about bridges attracts…. OH!!!!!!!!! LOL!
I am slow tonight.
Also, they’d be able to walk all over you!
*naughty.
Sigh.
LOTR has more homoerotic imagery than Clay Aiken singing a duet with the Village People, so don’t talk to me about “girlie” books.
Never happen, Tyler. The key to trolls is never paying the tax… save it for Charon.
Janie, did you REALLY just go after my JRR Tolkien? My feelings are hurt. And very entertained. My feelings are confused. Anyway, Viking Gal, don’t you wish LIFE went like that? -sigh…-
Bite your tounge, little one! You’re treding on sacred ground.
*treading* *dagnabit Jane $%$& *
Sorry Tyler, Charlie and I fight about Tolkien all the time, you were an unfortunate civilian casualty in this war.
Mmmm.
Was my body cannibalized? I want it cannibalized.
I bet I’d be delicious.
And Charlie, I was defending Tolkien while finding her post funny
Bite my tongue? Why? Because it’s TRUE!!!! Just admit that Sam only married Rosie because Frodo had too much emotional baggage for a meaningful relationship. And that Gandalf was a hobbit loving perv.
Nope, no vampires or vamps in TLOR! Only good clean violence.
That’s because it totally is Tyler.
Ringwraiths are kinda vamp like, Charlie. Anyway, always liked the Hobbit better, it’s got a Dragon in it.
Well, I better toddle off to bed, I have to get up somewhat early and try to bully a principal into giving me an interview.
The hobbits names were Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pipin — no one named Lola.
But other than that? LOTR is possibly the manliest series ever written. <3 chapter-long battle scenes.
Jane, if you haven’t seen Clerks 2, I recommend it just for the scene that totally agrees with your assessment of the LOTR series.
I was a bit sad that they couldn’t put the old forest and Scouring of the Shire into the films… But then again, the Scouring of the Shire upset me so maybe not…
That annoyed me too, but mostly because we couldn’t have the Scouring of the Shire (important because it’s an “actions have consequences” moral) but could have Bilbo’s journey to the White Havens shot in real time (well it felt like it took 3 or 4 weeks).
Ah, what part of NM?
South Central — Florida Mountains near Deming, west of Las Cruces.
Otherwise known as the ass end of NM, imo.
You’re not wrong there, Jane. I was offered a job a couple of years ago in Las Crutches but passed.
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I much prefer the northern part of the state, especially up around Taos.
Eddie, I’m partial to SW Arizona, lived there a couple of times for a short period — Huachuca Mountains, one of my favorite places to hike and climb.
Wait, what? Arizona? LMAO!!!!!
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Seriously though, I’m really over deserts but Arizona does have some nice country.
If I was forced to live in California, I would probably go for the Bay Area. I spent a bit of time at Alameda when it was opened which I enjoyed.
Monterey was nice. On a clear day one of teh most beautiful places we’ve lived…trouble was getting a clear day.
Oh damn, what was the name of the base over that way? It started with an H didn’t it?
Fort Ord (where Jane was born) and the Presidio of Monterey. You may be thinking about Ft Huachuca, AZ.
Ord! That’s it.. wasn’t there a base up towards Eureka as well? I knew it wasn’t Huachuca, but dang if I can remember the name.
Eureka is a real hole.
To which hole are you referring? Some of them are every so much more lovely than others, hehe.
The not-lovely variety. I described it once for a creative writing class: “The coastal town of Eureka lies on an arm of the Pacific Ocean in northern California. Everything about the town belies its name. It is a sad, dingy place, with sad, squat, faded buildings clustered along a main drag that suggests going out of business. Even the beaches are depressing; barren stretches of rocks and sea and sky, all grey and lifeless. It was like a ghost town, but worse, because people still lived there. The hotel room smelled of stale nicotine and I was glad to leave.” That about sums it up.
Reminds me of something a friend said while showing me around Los Angeles once: “…and if you keep going east, you get into the Inland Empire region. I think it’s called Inland Empire because nobody would want to live there if they called it the ‘Sh!thole In the Desert’ Region.”
Your friend nailed it
Oh, Moro Bay and Pismo were great places to go. Especially Pismo with the dunes. *sigh*
We liked to go to the Santa Cruz Mountains and the mission at San Juan Batista.
I’m really proud of all of you. No one posted “shopped”! *sniffles* So proud.
Um, because it wasn’t shopped, it was captioned maybe?
Um, obviously SOMEone had to shop in the “Bring Money” text. Asshole.
Psst…Ivan…the “Bring Money” is the caption text. Unless you consider using the lol builder to add text ‘shopping, of course.
… Uhm…. I’m not even sure how to save Ivan face on this one.
My face doesn’t need saving, but thanks anyway.
i think ivan knew that. i think.
i remember a few months back there was another one almost exactly like this where the “subtitle” on the sign was obviously the caption and people fought back and forth through several dozen comments saying it was photoshopped vs that’s what the sign actually said. i think it finally ended when someone linked to an uncaptioned photo of the same sign.
remember, never underestimate the stupidity of people on the internet.
Actually i do consider any alteration to a photo “shopping”, but I was referring to the idiots who fail to see the humor in things, and feel the need to try to show superiority by saying every odd image is “shopped”. I was being ironic…ok, I was being a smart-ass.
Maybe I need a vacation from all this. Nobody “gets” the jokes anymore. *shaking head*
Sorry I missed the sarcasm, Ivan! In my defense…it’s tough when you’re just reading it, sometimes.
All’s forgiven.
FWIW, I got it, Ivan.
I knew you would, Eric. You’re as twisted as I am.
I *got* it, but I never misunderestimate
the stupidity you can find about people you know.
*takes a bow*
Welcome to California…
A cash-strapped state where we’ll spend millions of dollars on a parade honoring millionaire basketball players.
Well, to be fair, it’s not really the state that is paying for this, it’s the city of LA despite the mayor’s promise to “take donations.” Blah, what is that $hit? And we are hardly the first people to spend money for big celebrations of millionaire sports figures when the economy is sucking. (I’m looking at you, PA!)
Heh. I’m actually FROM PA, and I know what you mean.
On the other hand, our economy isn’t quite as tanked as California’s – no thanks to our Governor – and at least we have TWO champion teams… in the better of our two major cities… (Screw Philly!)
Nope- the LA Lakers are paying 1/2 and the other 1/2 is coming from private donation from a couple of richies. NO taxes are being paid (according to NPR this morning (I live South of there- that would PO me!).
Well, you gotta do something fun after half the city was ripped to shreds in the “Yay We Won Let’s Destroy Stuff” riots.
Why do people have to show their pride for their local sports team by ripping apart their city? Let’s celebrate LA’s sports by destroying LA! Hell, even Montreal did it last time they won the Stanley Cup.
try being in columbus, ohio… if ohio state football wins, they riot. if they lose, they riot even more. it’s fun!
what’s even better is if after the riots there are huge house parties and there are like 80 people on a deck intended to hold 20 and then it collapses. so not only is a good portion of the city in full on riot mode… the cops and paramedics and everyone have to rush to the party to deal with incredibly drunk frat boys who’ve gotten themselves squished under a collapsed deck.
aaaaaaaah, i love the buckeyes. their fans are questionable at best most of the time.
We don’t bother rioting in St. Louis. There’s nothing good to loot.
Welcome to California – Our largest and most profitable cash crop is tax free!
Hey, The Steve! Where you been?!?
He’s been smoking the largest and most profitable tax-free cash crop in California!
They just gave in in San Diego- I look forward to a crop of potheads showing up
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Blonde – I do prefer to buy American!
Diss – Hey! *fondles and gropes inappropriately* I’ve been busy at work, not much time for surfing PK. Also, most of these LoLs have been pretty dull.
Wait, what? Who am I supposed to know now?
me! MEEEEE! *shakes tassels*
Yay!
No, some BDSM, DWN. AND HI!!!
Heya!
@DWN: Laurel K Hamilton….she of fairy BDSM pr0n.
I only read her Anita Blake series and then ditched that series when she became a bicycle.
Many of us ditched that series for similar reasons–the real Anita disappears some time between books 6 and 7.
The fairy pr0n series is more consistent in character, at least…and discussed at some length above.
Ok, I read that sentence five times…does “bicycle” mean something else in this context?
(Oh, and hi, good to see you, DWN!)
I’m translating it into ‘everyone rides her’.
“The Village Schwinn” carries the same meaning.
Didn’t we determine in a previous case that this was, in fact, NOT an actual “Welcome to California” sign because the flowers on the sign were a different state’s flowers?
I seem to recall that, but I could be wrong.
“Oh, if you ain’t got the do re mi, folks, you ain’t got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won’t find it so hot
If you ain’t got the do re mi.”
Woodie Guthrie
welcome to california where you can learn to speak spanish badly.