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I killed 20 million of my own people.
But, you ask an American college student to name the worst world leader ever and all they talk about is this Bush guy…
(Joesph Stalin)
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Holy fail, Batman!
Quick, to the failmobile!
sry folks – your failmobile’s stallin’ out…
Your failmobile got sent to Cash for Clunkers. Now GTFO.
Anything that doesn’t agree with you politically is an automatic fail. What a shocker.
Uhhh…. Anniee are you okay? Do you not see why someone, no matter their political leaning, would think this is a bad caption? I mean, does anyone (sane) think Stalin was a better leader than Bush?
uhhh. Igloo?
you do understand that this caption is correct?
all anyone can talk about is how bush was the worst leader ever. they speak of bush as if he led this nation into the fiery pits of hell and laughed as we all burned.
meanwhile there were and still are worse leaders out there.
“they speak of bush as if he led this nation into the fiery pits of hell and laughed as we all burned.”
Well, that IS a pretty apt description of his administration.
and on the first try, Ivan proves the point.
/agree
Exactly, bunnyrut. How many times, for how many years, was it Chimpy McBushHitler? Do you know there are fifteen THOUSAND references to Bush as Hitler at the Daily Kos right as we speak? Run a search, you’ll see. But somehow, the caption is a fail, and it’s stupid and no one really compares Bush to Hitler. Uh, yeah, and if you believe that I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.
You do realize that the picture is of Stalin, not Hitler? *wipes latte foam off mouth*
That isn’t the point, it’s the fact that Bush is thought of as one of the worst people ever(Hitler,Stalin, etc) by many ignorant people.
Stalin is the best world leader in 20th century and maybe best russian in whole russian history!
20 millions of own people – is a total bs.
Why do you stick him with Hitler?
kinda washed brains you got.
Bush grandpa, Prescott was nazi and loved Hitler – better think about this.
not george’s fault his grampa was an a$$hat, nor was it bush Sr. lets not judge them on the actions of another man and solely on their own actions
Actually, 20 million is a conservative estimate. Many of those are people whose deaths he blamed on the invading Nazis. How convenient for Hitler to provide an ascuse for him.
Hitler was a great leader. what he did on the other hand wasn’t so great.
He’s thought of as the worst American President, not the worst world leader – give college kids a little credit. Bush destroyed the Constitution and went to war based on lies, not mention his torture record and human rights abuses.
So… many smart people also think he was one of the worst persons ever, because in reality he was. And his elite family tree holds many more skeletons I.E. Prescott Bush, the Nazi. Should do your homework before you stick your foot in your mouth.
If you had REALLY done any homework YOU would know that Prescott Bush was not a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer. He had business ties with a man who was a Nazi but was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned for the duration of WWII. And “smart people” know that Jimmy Carter is still the worst president ever.
Why Jimmy Carter? James Buchanan’s policy, or lack thereof, in admission of Kansas to the Union as a ‘slave’ state, caused a split in the American electorate between Democratic South and Democratic North, which inevitably lead to a civil war when Republican Abe Lincoln was elected 2 years later.
BTW. Back then Democrats were for ‘state’s rights’ and less government interference, while the Republicans wanted a larger role of the federal government as opposed to states rights. Crazy how they are almost the exact opposite now.
Hitler was a piker when it comes to true mass slaughter. Stalin was the true winner in the general Slaughter department, followed fairly closely by Mao Tse Tung. Mao’s claim to fame doesn’t come from direct butchery, however. His was a starry-eyed attempt to run a country as a proletarian utopia. Stalin was just an anti-social Socialist (heh). However, had Hitler actually had better luck (or better sense) and either waited a year to attack the USSR (the winter of 1942 was brutal) or done it a year earlier before Stalin had a chance to round up or promote all the generals that he’d executed over the previous 10 years, Hitler would have, in all likelyhood, out-stalinned Stalin.
But he didn’t, and the gold medal for most people killed for no good reason to the Genocidal Georgian, ol’ Joe Stalin (with great support from Yagoda, Yezhov, and Beria (the first two Stalin did in, and the last, smarter than the other two, saw the writing on the wall and slipped ol’ Joe a mickey to beat all Mickeys).
Bush? He was just stupid.
Wow! Isn’t that great? I only came to this Lol’s comment section because I thought, ‘hey, thats perfect annie-bait’. And sure enough, there she is, in full gear, flaming along. Does she get paid for that? Defending a straw man, a human punching ball? Keeping the nonsensical discussion alive, hoping that nobody will smell – or even cut – the real cheese?
Maybe that should be GWB’s autobiography title.
“Bush – Not as bad as Stalin.”
I love it!
Hi!!! Just because there were suckier leaders in the ahem, DISTANT PAST does not mean that Bush wasn’t the very worst US President ever to walk into the White House. People try to say that all the time – “Oh yeah?? Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot!!” And I’m like, so this makes Bush one of the greats by default? Nnnnnno. No it doesn’t.
Apparently they must not teach much about Warren Harding and Herbert Hoover anymore in schools. Just wait 50 years and someone will be titled with another worst prez evaaaarrrrrr.
“another worst president ever….” We have one already.
Your anger is misplaced. Perhaps you remember two buildings in downtown New York, another in D.C. and a field outside of Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
Lots of people died there.
GWB didn’t press the Snooze button, that is why you are angry.
Yes, I Do
Anything said by s_b is automatically discounted by you because you can’t see past your own frothy face. What a shocker.
no no no no no no
its who ever disagrees with ME is wrong
get it right peoples!
I read that as “what a hooker” and immediately pictured Anniee with a patch over her eye being called a “dirty pirate hooker” by charro.
Hahaha! I agree. Yaaaaar! Anniee be a dirty pirate hooker! Avast ye Maggies!
Well she IS stupid.
And what is it with you assholes and “froth”? Buncha latte-drinkers, swigging down Starbucks swill I imagine.
It’s because you get all rabid and frothy like you’re gonna bite someone when you get angry.
Keep imagining, Anniee.
It’s a fail because it’s not funny or smart. Similar to you.
Meh, I don’t need validation from the village idiot, but thanks anyway.
Can’t we go back to the way things used to be, when you wouldn’t address me for fear of being called out? That was nice.
Please live up to your name.
Negative points for originality! Nice one.
Who are the sick fvcks who gave this cgray ass sniffer thumbs up for suggesting SB kill herself? Out yourselves! Come on!
I accidentally hit it looking for the delete button.
Anniee voted 8 times.
I didn’t notice, I was drinking my latte.
Hey! That was MY latte!
Yipes! *scampers off*
Now I’m bitter.
Great, now she’s gonna get all frothy about it.
Bitter AND frothy.
I-am-EXCITED!
Good thing bitter came back before I remembered this latte incident.
Depends on the college student.
Some would confer the dubious distinction on the guy who hasn’t been in office a year yet.
Cognitive dissonance != politically dependent.
Nah – neither Bush nor Barry get dibs. School kids would name Hitler because of all the cool war propaganda movies that we cranked out.
Besides, in order to take out Hitler… the enemy of our enemy (Soviet Russia) became our uneasy ‘friend’.
*doh!*
Isn’t history painful sometimes?
And because of the Zionists always yelling about how “we must never forget”–meaning “we must never forget how many Jews died”, but not “we must never forget that mass slaughter is wrong”. Can’t forget about them.
That is…delicate territory, but yes based on the numbers, Stalin was worse than Hitler.
yeah but stalin wasn’t racist, sexist, homophobic, gypsyiist (sp?) and all the other shit that hitler was when it came to putting people into death camps. so at least Stalin didn’t discriminate.
I so much prefer my mass murders to be equal opportunity.
“The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a equal-opportunity slaughterer.”
Stalin used the kid’s sandwich board to decide who to kill next.
Did he use darts?
Poisoned tipped ones. With the kid still inside. ‘Cause that’s how Joe rolls.
Uuuhhmmm…actually, he was. Stalin was all of those things as well. He was also a raging paranoid schizoid so his mass murder went beyond his prejudices and hatreds to encompass any person/group he thought was out to get him. Talk about equal opportunity!
Yeah it makes a big difference to people whether they’re murdered by a Nazi or a Communist, whether they’re starved to death in camps or gulags. This whole false left-right dichotomy for what are all essentially tyrannous totalitarian societies that are all basically the same and just as deadly has got to end already. It’s plebeian.
>>Yeah it makes a big difference to people whether they’re murdered by a Nazi or a Communist,
well. if its not a big difference – lets count people killed by americans in wars after WWll.
freaking millions.
Hilter is about to loose his advantage )
Another lie. If you discount enemy soldiers, the number is very low. And if you take into consideration how our various enemies fought, it gets even lower.
Deaths during illegal wars are murder.
No, he didn’t, but he killed people even easier, including people who “might” be political dissidents, “intellectuals”, and his own officers, especially when they lost because of Stalin’s own battle plans, and whoever he felt like.
>> “The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a equal-opportunity slaughterer.”
lol. USA prisons are the same size as Gulag was. and still rising! Blame Obama!!!!
Really? Obama? Whatever, I’d still go to Prison over a Gulag, they have central heating.
WTF does Obama have to do with it?
…or for the suspicion that you might be disagreeing.
He was one sick puppy, that Joe-joe.
Get back Jo Jo!
Like Anniee?
a bitter troll..
a bitter clown..
a bitter chef..
the bitterness is spreading like that rash i gave charro
I got a cream for that. It made me twitch. So they gave me this pill. Now I see smells.
Chef not bitter, chef work for Bitter Troll, hence the name Bitter’s Chef.
It isn’t about numbers, though, and I’m sure you understand this. Hitler’s regime was predicated on pure hatred.
It’s amazing, the kind of reaches that anti-Semites will make.
Funny how it’s wrong to be anti-Semetic but apparently completely acceptible in every way to be anti-Christian…
If you’re far enough left, both seem to be acceptable, even encouraged — it’s quite frightening, actually.
Remember, kids, tolerance is for approved minority groups only.
Yes, that’s what tolerance is, idiot. Majority groups don’t need tolerance, by definition.
Tolerance definition fail
comprehension of the word “approved” fail
bitter troll hates math…far to many numbers
who ever invented math be a dick!
less numbers NOW!
Now everybody knows why Bitter has Chef. All of that adding 1/3 of a cup to 1/2 a quart stuff make his head hurt.
Do you realize what you’re doing? You’re making me side with Dhoti. Because he’s right and you’re wrong.
*waits for universe to implode*
Tolerance requires peaceful disagreement among all groups within a set. Religious tolerance means that all religions are tolerated among each other.
You are foolish.
It’s quite frightening on both ends of the spectrum – viz., the town hall teabagger yelling “Heil Hitler!” at a man being interviewed about the Israeli national health system.
One begins to see the point of the argument that the political spectrum bends in a circle, with the truly extreme ends on each side bending back to indistinguishability.
You know that guy was probably a LaRouche supporter, right? (The Obama as Hitler posters have been definitely traced back to them, at least, so it’s not a stretch.)
What kind of antichristianism are you thinking of that’s compatible with antisemitism?
“that’s compatible with”? I meant “that compares to”.
Fancy comp-words are just too hard for an ickle brain.
Um, you know. That whole “Happy Holidays” thing that the evil liberal corporations foist on us every September.
So, so evil.
Well, I’m not sure I understand it, to be honest. I’m just repeating what O’Reilly says.
I can’t stand victim wannabe whiners.
We have some of this in Sweden. Our law says school education should be nonconfessional. Some schools have traditionally had their end-of-term gatherings in churches. (Either for religious tradition or simply because it’s a large building.) Lately people have started pointing out that this might be a bit silly – dragging off school classes to church on a regular basis.
Conclusion?
“Us Fine Good White Christians are being oppressed by evil darkie Muslims!!!111!!!1!”
lmao!
Well, you know. A church isn’t a particularly religious building, and it’s not as if psalms are actually religious, because you don’t have to mean what you sing.
Oh, and when the priest doesn’t hold a service, s/he’s not really connected to any religion either.
A friend of mine had a bumper sticker I like: “If going to church makes you a Christian, does going to the garage make you a car?”
Oh.. shit. I’m a car?
*hugs for Mark* Where you been, I’ve missed you!
*hugs Mark too* Yeah, PM is here.
Uh.
This is a little awkward.
*awkward, one armed man hug*
Um, hi.
(furiously thinking, trying to figure out if I know you)
*whispers* That’s Eric in STL, he changed his name due to his membership in the PK irregulars on facebook. I think.
Oh, um, Hi Eric in STL! I didn’t recognize you in the *awkward pause* sequined jacket and fluorescent pants. Um, wow, what an… interesting look! The Amazing Rando, huh?
(Okay, srsly. Good to talk to you again, too, Eric! I hope your summer is going great!)
Yeah, the name change is to try to make me more anonymous so PKers I don’t like won’t know who I am and people I know in real life won’t be able to hold me responsible for shit I say here. LOL
*hugs back*
Thanks, Jane! I missed you too!
I’ve been too busy this summer to get on much. I just started mountain biking last fall, and since the nice weather hit I’ve been spending every moment working, riding, or sleeping.
Awesome! I spent the summer eating junk food, I’m sure the physical results of your summer endeavors were better than mine.
Kind of a mixed bag, actually; after 18 miles of mountain trail, nothing tastes better than a cold beer. Except, maybe, another cold beer. Followed by some burgers, and a token salad so I can feel “healthy”
I *do* have killer legs again, now!
Hm, I think I knee a ham sandwich for lunch, with some decalfinated soda.
But pitty, the calf is the best part.
Conversely, some former(?) Nazis that helped hunt down Communists were given leniency.
As were many of the regime’s scientists and engineers — there was a lot of German being spoken in Huntsville in the 50s and 60s. (To be fair, though, a lot of those folks were reluctant members, or “Nazis” in name only. NINO?)
Political expediency and the start of the Cold War will do that to you.
I can barely focus on the caption with that glorious mustache above it.
The mustache that made Hitler soil his armor.
Hmmm…Hitler and Stalin in a Texas Death Match in a barbed wire cage…I’d pay to see that. The winner gets hung.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcm1A-KdEIY
I could be wrong (it’s happened before) but I heard somewhere that Hitler based his look on Chaplin’s Tramp. Apparently he thought the look would endear people. Even when Chaplin released ‘The Great Dictator’ Hitler watched it… twice.
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All Chaplin said of it was, “I’d give anything to know what he thought of it”.
I have heard that as well. Don’t know how much truth there is to it but I can confirm that the unfounded rumor does exist.
It wasn’t that uncommon a look for men, until Hitler made it into a ‘no go’.
That would be rich irony, considering Chaplin was Jewish.
I do enjoy a diet rich in irony.
I think it would be ironic if we were all made of iron.
Loved Spider Robinson’s comment: “God is an iron.”
He figured, we call people who suffer from gluttony “gluttons”, so God must be…
That is one impressive ‘stash. Reminds me of Captain Hook’s; just a bit thicker.
Thumbed up, for reasons of good form.
Spoken to any college students lately? Or is that just supposed to be shorthand for liberal? Regardless, when your backers consistently rely on pointing out history’s greatest monsters to make you look good, your legacy’s prospects aren’t looking so hot.
I think when your only defense becomes, “Hey, at least I didn’t sponsor genocide” or “well at least I didn’t rape and kill my way through the continent” you’ve done something wrong.
Well, no, not a content. A middle eastern country…
I’m sure rape is not a strategy we use in war.
I sure hope not. But some have (Bosnia for starters…)
I know. It was so wrong of him to ask a couple thousand Americans to die just for the sake of freeing and saving the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afganis. EVIL! EEEEVIIIILLLLL!!!!!!!
Do you mean the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis freed from this mortal coil? Or the millions living in a society more dangerously unstable than what was there before the war?
Errr, that wasn’t even directed towards Bush. I was just making a joke. And I’m not getting into the Iraq War with anyone…
Understood, Dr. McCoy. It was Bippy there who needed the memo.
Damnit, I’m a doctor, not a mindreader!
It would be more stable if the government would put some real effort in improving the situation instead of calling it ‘hopeless.’ The amount of extremists killed or detained outnumbers U.S. casualties by, like, 500 to 1, and double that of civilians killed.
You speak out of ignorance, just riding the mindless wave of public opinion. Iraq is “more dangerously unstable” only if you consider control (And I mean control by Saddam) and stability the same thing. If it weren’t for the Iraq war, the entire Kurdish race would likely be near extinction by now due to mass genocide. Go to http://www.theotheriraq.com to see what they think of our “invasion”. Also, Saddam would be well on his way to rebuilding his WMD programs. Read the intelligence reports.
You do realize you could be talking about any politician ever here, right? ._.;
Obama must be torn,
should he grow a Stalin moustache or an Osama bin ladin beard?
I’ve always been curious why Bush didn’t grow a Hitler mustache.
Care to point out how you are any less ridiculous or offensive than Sqwirk’s?
Pretty sure he/she didn’t make any such claim, bud.
I would guess Lammassu was being sarcastic, but I could be wrong.
Remember, both Hitler and Stalin were Socialists (Just like BO). Bush was a Republican, albeit not a very good one.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Lol.
What we should be afraid of are ignorant Republicons who are so desperate in their racism to smear Obama that they deny the fact that Hitler was a fascist, and that Bush’s grandpa Prescott was one of Adolf’s American bankers, and is alleged to have supported the aborted 1930′s fascist coup planned by wealthy Republicans in the U.S.
And Stalin was a communist.
And President Obama is not a socialist.
I’m thinking that foo qualifies as a complete idiot.
Stalin wasn’t a communist. Stalin was a dictator. You see, communism is only a theory. It follows a long period of socialism known as the “withering away of the state”. In essence, after the socialist revolution, the dictatorship of the proletariat would reduce government salaries to a “working man’s wage” and devoid of privilege, like taking a plane to cheat on your wife in another country and that being ok. And over unknown years, as the theory suggests, the government would eventually dissolve into nothing more than a system of offices that handle trade of goods from areas with excess to areas of need. All ownership of means of production would also become owned by the state. After the bourgeois class was slowly dissolved because their ability to manipulate the masses through their private ownership of assets (factories and the like) would be taken away, everyone would become a middle class worker. Since the “State” only exists, according to Marx and Lenin, to keep the proletariat from rising against their bourgeois masters, it would slowly wither away as the classes vanish. Once they state had completely withered, then communism would replace socialism. So you see, you can’t really call anyone a communist. What you can call them is a Socialist. And since the state never withered away in any country that claims to be communist, your really should refer to any state as communist. The best one can hope for is “wanted a socialist revolution with the hopes of the state one day withering into a state of communism”. Do you dig?
Gravity is only a theory..
It is the Law of Gravity. Gravity got an upgrade from physics a while ago. Gravitrons are a theory, however.
OH NOES. You mean I have to fall down when I trip over now? I’ve always kinda hoped that I occasionally wouldn’t, since it was all just theoretical. :/
Falling down is only to be avoided by massively embarrassing flailing motions. It’s the law! OK, it is the law for me, anyway!
The other law (or corollary), which isn’t talked about so much, is that you can only trip (or stumble) if there’s someone there to see it.
Uh oh! I’ve been violating the law then! I trip, regardless of an audience! Am I under arrest?!
Nah, it’s more of a corollary, really. “If a person trips in the hallway, and there’s no one there to see it, did it make an embarrassment?”
(but you might want to get your equilibrium checked…that’d be the semi-circular tubules in your inner ear that allow you to determine your relative spatial…what’s that? “Shut up already?” Oh, ok, sorry.
Although it could also be something with your eyesight where *thwack* OK I’LL STOP, SHEESH. ow.)
Yes, you are. Now hold still while I get these fuzzy handcuffs on you…and the bedpost…
I float.
Hrmpth. Fine then.
*amends post*
Evolution is only a theory..
True that. Heavily supported, but not yet moved into the law column!
I’m really just trying to get VNV to respond to me. He never does.
Hey asshole, when I was in school, gravity was taught as a theory. In fact, if you want to put a fine point on it, GRAVITY may be a law but it is explained through THE THEORY OF GRAVITATION. So we explain a law with a theory, hmmm? Since BASIC SCIENCE CLASS IN 7TH GRADE I haven’t much followed gravity’s progress as I don’t give a shit and I didn’t get my degree in hard science.
And anti-evolution types who say evolution is just a theory are the ignorant ones, because they wouldn’t know a scientific theory if it bit them on their self righteous ass.
See, that’s exactly what I’ve always thought (well, since high school in the 1970s, anyhow) – all the so-called “communist countries” were (or are) really dictatorships. While I think the concept of communism is great, I can’t imagine it actually working with people (you know who you are) in a practical way. I guess I hang around with the wrong crowd…
You can hang with me–I had the same conclusion in HS in the ’70s. Would you like a beer?
“I told you. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.”
Thanks for the offer – I’d love a beer, but I have to watch my carbs. I’ll hang with you, though.
Or should we form an autonomous collective?
I like the autonomous collective idea. I’m already a member of the AAAM, and I wouldn’t want my memberships to conflict.
You’re in the Active Amateur Astronomers of Maryland?
No, different group. American Association of Ample Mammaries. Founding member with Shortright and Jane St Clair.
Ah, well, I think I’ve made my opinion about…those sorts of things fairly clear in other posts, so I won’t do the whole “8008135!” shout. Crud, I just did it, didn’t I? Sorry.
I’m with you two. Fist bump, yo.
*bump* Have a beer (don’t do the shout, though – I’ve already overdone that part).
Please tell me why it is that every Republican who doesn not approve of Obama is automatically labeled a “racist”? Isn’t it possible for someone to simply not like him for his character, opinions, efforts, and tactics?
And just because someone’s grandfather is with bad company or even a bad person does not make the grandson a bad person. Perhaps Bush wasn’t the best president; but at least he never brought shame to the U.S. by apologizing to Europe for Americans, calling cops “stupid”, or try to rush a major decision like Healthcare even though polls say majority of the people say nay.
My opinions are obvious, and they’re just that… opinions. But my are based on research. I am all for opinions, even if they’re opposite of mine, as long as they are actually educated. I despise when people voice views that were fed to them by peers, media, and other outlets. If you hear a claim, especially one as drastic as “Bush is worse than Stalin”, look into it. Don’t just agree to it because someone says it! I’ll tell ya, if the citizens of this nation did some research on the topics about which they are so passionate, the First Amendment would be put into much better use. I’m glad we have it. So I can express myself like this and rebuttal views like yours, I just wish your views were more educated.
No one here is claiming Bush is worse than Stalin, so you can just put the crack pipe down and back away from that claim, thank you.
As it happens, the past eight years merited an apology for the way GWB and his administration conducted themselves. I’m not going to waste bandwidth and my time with an exhaustive list; if you’ve truly lived through the period and are as educated as you insist others should be, you can think of them yourself. Nobody called the cops (plural? what?) stupid, just one cop’s action on one occasion, and if you can’t figure out the difference you’ve got some serious maturing to do. And the decision on health care reform has not been rushed – this stuff has been pending since 1948, with the same well-heeled fools making the same arguments the whole time.
You’re welcome to try again.
Research, huh? Please cite your sources for your research because I have a feeling hypocrisy is afoot!
“The term Nazi is derived from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the official German language name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party “
And one of their main purposes was to be anti-union and anti-communist. In spite of the name, NOT socialist. Rather like the USSR not being a union, but instead a military-enforced collection of countries.
lol.
some of that countries are now begging to take them back )))
split was initiated by betrayers and not supported by people (except nationalist aka separatists).
How about ‘EU is NATO enforced collection of coutries’ ??
sound like bs, right? ))
Gee, if Hitler called his party “socialist,” it must be true because everything Hitler ever said was completely, absolutely true!
In other news, China must be the most democratic nation in the world given that its full name is the “People’s Republic of China.”
Neither Hitler or Stalin were socialists. They were both dictators. Now Lenin… Lenin was a socialist. He promised his people peace, healthcare, and schools. Ofcourse, the elites started a civil war because they didn’t want to lose thier power and the west, including America, sent troups and supplies to fight the Red Army. It could even be said that if not for the Civil War that ensued and the continuation of German attack during WWI there would not have even been a Stalin. And even though he did horrible things, he did take the most backward “western” country and make them capible of winning WWII. From last the tied with first isn’t such a bad go at it.
Lenin was also a dictator, any communist leader has to be, that’s how the system works.
every eastern leader has to be a dictator.
dont you get it?
it works for thousands of years and will work.
when you bring a ‘democracy’ to that nations – you just kill the whole ecosistem.
millions die without a bullet.
I think this is the point of “spreading the virus”.
Just curious – what if that other guy – Lev Davidovich Bronstein – had been the leader – whatcha think would’ve happened? I don’t have an axe to grind or even a particular opinion about it, I’m just curious about people’s opinions here.
Hitler was a fascist.. not a socialist.
You don’t know what Nazi stood for, do you?
“The term Nazi is derived from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the official German language name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party “
Sure, and the GDR was, in fact, a democratic republic, right? I mean, I’m from the US, so I’ll admit we got a distorted view of the “Iron Curtain” countries, but would you suggest (and I’m serious, because perhaps I’m significantly ignorant) that it was truly a democratic republic with fair voting and freedom of speech and freedom of the press and individual rights were considered important and such because of the name?
And “the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” happens to be more commonly known as North Korea. :p
*looks at bag of hammers*
*looks at foo*
I’m not sure which is dumber, but I’m guessing foo.
I have this box of rocks! *adds to the pile for Eri… RANDO’S.. comparison*
Hmmm.
*Looks at the Amazing Rando*
*Looks at douchebag*
Notices the uncanny resemblance.
Seriously, dude. Add some value to the discussion or just sit in the back and keep quiet.
*”accidentally” spills douchebag all over foo*
My bad…
Shall I compare thee to a Summer’s Eve…
Careful there Slan, or her nozzle get out of joint.
. . . but by any other name she would smell as sweet.
I did add value to the discussion. The Amazing Rando is an AMAZING value and if you act now, we’ll throw in Igor at absolutely NO EXTRA CHARGE!! CALL NOW!!
I didn’t know fear-mongering counted as starting a discussion, Chicken Little.
Hitler took over the national socialist party and turned the party in a fascist direction, as any high school history student would know. Stalin also worked under the facade of communism, but considering that the working class was repressed even more than before the revolution, and Stalin’s friends lived in luxury most people of the time couldn’t imagine, he was closer to fascism than communism as well. and any real socialist would be insulted if you told them Obama was a socialist.
You must be torn,
should you shave your back, or learn to walk upright?
I’m torn too. Are you an ass fungus or an anal maggot? It’s so hard to tell.
LOL! “Hey at least Bush wasn’t as bad as Stalin!”
That really says something about Bushie’s legacy doesn’t it?
Came here to say this. If you’ve gotta reach back to Stalin to find somebody to make you look good, you’ve got big problems.
That reminds me of something Jon Stewart said recently…..(paraphrased) “When you have to start out by saying ‘hey, I’m not going to kill your granny!’, you’ve got problems.”
Oh wait, that was about another person
You keep watching the Daily Show and I’m going to revoke your Conservo-Card, missy.
I heard her say something positive about Bill Clinton recently too. I think that card is REVOKED!
Froo hates Obama! Froo iz teh conservotroll!!!!
As it happens, the reason he has to say that is because certain conservatives keep perpetuating the “death panel” myth, and lots of easily frightened people buy into it. It ain’t in the bill, and when Betsy McCaughey – who first made the claim – went on the Daily Show to discuss, she made a fool of herself.
She’s since been fired from her job at Cantel Medical Corp, which provides products to the healthcare industry. She was on the board of directors. Hello, conflict of interest!
How did I get rated up!
Not like this.
I’m fairly sure that it was more than that, especially if you consider all the famine and stuff that was entirely his fault. But, you can’t argue with results
It’s at least a few million more, especially if you count the forced Ukranian famine during which 3 million people died. It’s probably close to 25 million.
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BTW, the site says LOL, not butthurt.
It’s not Stalins fault that people starved.
Do you all think there’s a “human right” to food or something?
He introduced the five year plans, though. I am not certain exactly how much they caused the starvation, but they sure were involved.
Seeing as how Russia became a superpower it’s pretty evident those people were a drag on the economy.
At least they were made to do something productive unlike this generation of Americans who think they deserve healthcare.
I KNOW. All those poor people whining, “waah waah I have cancer and I can’t afford chemo, I’m going to lose my house” oh, quit your yapping. I didn’t get my trust fund OR my grandmother’s inheritance by whining about how it’s next to impossible to change class. Next time, be born into a rich family you bunch of deadbeats.
LMAO, nice.
You’re so incredibly wrong! Stalin forced the Ukrainian famine. How can you even begin to think that Ukraine, the bread basket of most of Europe, could not feed itself??!! Stalin took the majority of what was harvested from the farms. He forced people off land they’d been successfully working for generations. Three million people died in the Ukraine because of the famine. Not because of droughts or other natural disasters; because Stalin decided that he would conscript Ukrainian food production. Why don’t you do some research and stop downplaying one of the worst genocides in history, ignoramus.
And the English forced people off the land in the 18th century which started capitalism in the first place.
That’s how it works. You can’t say it’s bad just because a “communist” does it. If Stalin had only opened up the economy after making the resources available we’d be seeing him as a hero today?
Would america be where it is if the Indians were still wasting all the land?
Is south america going to have growth or would china if those with capital aren’t allowed to move millions engaged in a low productive economy off ‘their’ land (if it was really theirs they’d have the means to keep it) and into factories?
And y’all criticise Bush but he was only doing the same thing.
Iraq is now an open economy. The population has been trimmed down a couple of million and investment is starting.
You are seriously fvcked in the head, dude.
I would suggest that our own economy is on the cusp and improvement will begin by leaps and bounds IMMEDIATELY with the subtraction of just one more individual. Hmmmm…..who should it be? Will he leave voluntarily or should we offer oh, say, N. Korea a deal?
“And the English forced people off the land in the 18th century which started capitalism in the first place.”
And you’re getting this information where?
Stop stating that your opinion is fact.
I don’t know about ‘the start of capitalism’, but here is a link to the enclosure act on Wikipedia: where landowners fence off what had been commonly used land in order to raise sheep. Result: loss of grazing and crop-growing land for the tenants/peasants.
“Would america be where it is if the Indians were still wasting all the land?”
THAT’S the comment that made my jaw drop. The mind boggles at this moron’s chutzpa. Yes Sqwirk. You are a moron.
while the famines were definitely Stalin’s fault. I would first argue it was more incompetence than actual intent to produce genocide that created that situation. Second, where did all that food go?…it went to feed the rest of russia…which would have starved without that food. I don’t think he just went off and burned it. One way or the other 3 millions people were going to starve to death. Stalin chose that they be ukrainian. Third, Stalin did force people on to collective farms instead of their own personal farms, but this in-and-of itself, would not cause famine. The collective farms could produce just as much food as the personal farms, but the ukranian people got pissed at him taking their land and putting them in collective farms and refused to work. Thus, not enough food was produced to feed the whole soviet union and some people had to starve. Stalin chose ukraine, because he felt their refusing to work was the cause of the famine. I am not saying any of his decisions were right, but you are painting an inaccurate picture that makes it seem that stalin took away people’s food and land and then just burned it in order to kill ukrainians. That simply isn’t the case. It was a terrible thing that happened, but I don’t think it was his intent, at the outset, to kill 3 million ukrainians and nearly starve the entire soviet union.
“you are painting an inaccurate picture that makes it seem that stalin took away people’s food and land and then just burned it in order to kill ukrainians. ”
No, I don’t think that I was saying that at all. And that was not my intention. I wasn’t saying he was doing it intentionally to kill Ukrainians. And, yes, the famines were partially due to his incompetence and due to the fact that collective farms were not producing as much as independent farms etc.
well, using the word genocide, IMO, implies intent rather than incompetence or political unrest was the cause of the millions of dead people. When you say genocide, I think of Hitler marching jews into concentration camps or african teenagers rounding up other african teenagers, marching them to big holes and putting a few clips of ak47 rounds into them. It also implies that the goal is the complete elimination of that ethnic group. I don’t think that was the case here either. Stalin’s incompetence and the unrest he created through unpopular authoritarian rule was ultimately responsible for the deaths of many people, but he didn’t “kill” them…nor was it genocide. That is where I feel that the caption, and your previous comments, go overboard.
Seriously, do you ever say anything even remotely intelligent? I think everyone in America should have health care. Except you. I also think everyone in America should have oxygen to breathe. Except you.
So why should people who don’t give a crap get health care? Why should anyone who doesn’t work for something (not because they can’t, because they won’t) get anything?
We need to reinstate the gene pool lifeguard, forget health care!
I agree with your statement about the gene pool lifeguard. But you can’t very well punish the people who DO do something just because of the few bad apples. Seems fascist to me..
I think all Americans deserve healthcare except you.
So what are you now? The start of the “death panel”? Just kidding…I couldn’t resist.
Well….ya gotta start somewhere, eh?
Yeah, and all those Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians and English people . . . you’re all lazy whingers who clearly have never done anything productive. How dare you be entitled to free health care.
Starvation was along in many regions. Like Poland and Czechoslovakia. many people died regardless Stalin or soviet plans.
that was the last “natural starvation” in Europe , like many before. a 2-3 times a century a big hunger with millions of dead.
But!
It was not as dirty as starvation of Irishman initiated by England.
Or starvation of British peasants eaten by sheep.
Or starvation of Americans in Great Depression initiated by bankers. (wheat burned and drowned in order to hold price)
At least Russian hunger was dreadful but not shameful as listed above.
I am British, and I’d be really interested to know when British peasants were eater by sheep.
The closest I can come is the “Highland Clearances” when thousands of small tennant farmers were semi-forcibly expariated to North America to free up their land for sheep farming, but that didn’t make the sheep into carnivores, or mean that the people were eaten!
And if they were eaten by sheep they couldn’t have starved to death, now could they.
Wow, you’re stupid.
I think I’ll go back to not reading the comments now.
Cry moar.
OK… “MOAR!!!!!!!!!!!!”
…and let slip the dogs of 4chan?
I apologise for totally misreading this post.
Who keeps rating me up!
Not me.
Obviously Bush was not the worst world leader. He was definitely one of your worst presidents, however.
american don’t who stalin was form. cause he was not on war with the usa.
I’m going to pray that English is your second language. Otherwise your comment is just TOO hilarious.
his nick is even funnier..
Thumbs up for great justice! A winner is you!
Boy are you ever wrong. Oh, and your jingoism is showing.
It’s like being an asshole, only moreso.
It’s true. I don’t who stalin was form. *hangs head in shame*
And was he form in triplicate? That’s what I really want to know.
Apparently he’s not on war. He needs to get on that war, dammit!
No matter how much I drink, Anus, your comment does not make sense. So I will bravely keep drinking and hope for enlightenment.
Looks like Regan with a Groucho mustache.
Damn you and your typing speed!
Misspelled “Reagan.”
He does indeed. I thought is was Reagan until I scrolled down far enough to note that his philtrum was befurred.
Who the hell is this Regan guy that everyone keeps mentioning?
Donald Regan, maybe? Secretary of the Treasury and Chief of Staff during the Reagan administration?
You’d think he was a former President or something, the way people here go after him.
Very true! I had no idea he was still so well-known.
Well, gee, Dhoti, don’t you know American history? He IS a former president. Just like Busch, Clinten, Cartar, Fored, Nixen, Johnsen, and Kenedy!
What about Hover?
a vaccume cant be president!
No?
NO! a blender..thats different
But a president can be vacuumed. Just ask Clinton.
well yesh, but if more presidents had fat interns with mighty suction powers, the world might be a better place
I doubt when I’m president that a Hoover, a blender, or most most any household appliance would make my buzzer go
.
My favorite prezudint is is Linken.
And let me guess. You’re favorite website is Lolcats.
I never noticed before that Ronald Reagan looked quite a bit like Stalin without the ‘stache.
(Not a political commentary here folks, just pure physical observation.)
i he would just had kill a dog of a celebrity more people would know stalin.
We get it. You think Americans are ignorant. Move on.
I’m impressed with your translation skills, well done.
It’s either the fact that English is my second language or I turn on my idiot-speak translator. With this guy it’s difficult to determine which it is.
Another victim of Babelfish, perhaps?
I love Babelfish. Especially with tartar sauce – yum!
I just don’t see why I should have to go all the way to Russia to see John Lennon’s tomb, I mean, it’s stupid – why would they bury him there when he wasn’t even Russian, right? Shouldn’t his tomb be in New York or Liverpool or…what? Oh, so Lenin was a different guy? Never mind then.
I lol’d
Yep, me too.
Thank you both – I appreciate the feedback, and if I made even one person laugh that makes me feel better than anything I might’ve accomplished at work today…say, would either of you be up to sending a note to my corporate
overlordsmasters…uh, my boss indicating that I’ve done something good? Recently?Ok, now I’m totally fascinated – did I offend anyone with my comments? It’s probably a value thing – I only vote against things (well, I haven’t actually yet) I think are offensive (if it doesn’t do anything for me I just move on). I’m curious as to how this comment (along with others) would strike someone as negative – I certainly don’t expect everyone to share my sense of humor, but I’m seriously curious (it won’t change me, unless it reveals some way I’m being mean/wrong/insulting etc. without meaning to) about what made someone vote this down? Likewise with my initial post – I meant it to make fun of ignorant folks, not Stalin or Lenin or Lennon – I don’t believe it’s disrespectful of anyone else, but I’d be honestly interested in hearing the reasons someone would vote a thumbs-down. My only agenda is to find out how I’m offending someone and correct that behavior on my part if necessary (and it doesn’t bother me so much as make me curious – honestly). I don’t care who it is/was – I’m just curious as to the reasoning behind it. Was it just because it wasn’t funny?
It’s impossible to go through life without offending anyone. Probably some lurker troll just wanted to be a douche.
Agreed, but I figure it’s always good to check – I mean, if I’m offending someone, I want it to be on dolphin. Er, porpoise. Purpose! (sorry, get confused on that one sometimes)
And Georgia’s on my my my my my my my miiiiiiiiiiind.
bitter troll will invade georgia soon, savannah nice place
Ukraine always get…what you waaant….
Come and keep your comrade warm!
Beware the Zombie Lennon threat on 09/09/09. You’ve been warned.
zombie lemons?!?!?!?!?
ZOMBIE LEMONAIDE!!!!!!
Oooh, a flash Lennon-zombie thing, cool! Do we get to sing Back in the USSR? Will Paul be there?
Ringo and george will be there, paul will not. john and george will open the show by eating ringo
Will Keith Richards be there too? Oh crap, did I just out him? Damn…
everyone knows keith and mick are zombies and have been since 1991..anyone acting shocked is either fakeing or just getting out of the basement
Wait, you’re saying it’s possible to leave the basement? Seriously? I mean, you’re not just, ya know, messing with me here, right?
put down the plastic phazer….pull off the spock ears…take shower…exit basement…or incase you dont have basement shower…exit basement then take shower. go outside ( PUT ON CLOTHING FIRST ) sun is friend, good friend..bright and warm..meet girls..
I…don’t wear…Spock ears…I wear the…toupee of leadership. And what is this shower thing you speak of? I think I’ve heard of girls – those are those things on the interwebs, right? That you chat with? That aren’t really hairy 40-year-old guys, no matter what anyone says?
yes yes…and they not really green..well some are but stay away from them ! they not ripe yet
Ow. I mean, I’ve got all this skin (well, my face and arms and neck) that’s all red now and it hurts. Quote: “…sun is friend, good friend..bright and warm…”
Right.
And the girls didn’t react like on the interwebs AT ALL (well, except for that guy on the park bench, I mean, but he doesn’t count, right?), it was weird…
My sides hurt from laughing. I’m going to have to smite you two!
Ha! Smite away! I’ve got my +2 blanket of….hold on…Dang!
Mommmm!1!!! Where’s my blanky!11! Are you washing it again! What did I tell you about that!1! And where’s my toupee!1!
*sigh* As everyone knows, John Lennon was obsessed with the number nine. So on 09/09/09 at 9:09 am (London time) he will rise from the grave and slaughter all those who don’t like the Beatles. There will be no escaping the Lennon Apocalypse. Oh, and Beatles Rockband comes out that day too.
Damn, I was really hoping for the flash-zombie thing – oh well. At least I’m safe from Zombie-Lennon.
imagain all the people….eating all the flesh…Yoouuuu too…
you may say that im a zombie….but im not the only..
hope one day you will join us…and we can all eat as one…
*sniff*
beautiful.
Just beautiful.
And does it have to be London time? That’s like, 1:09am my time, and I’ll still have to get to work that morning – can we do it later, maybe?
Crap! Was I supposed to bring the kool-aide or the min-vegi-sausages to the flash-zombie-lennon thing on the 9th? I lost my meeting minutes, dangit. And did we decide on Eastern Time?
Way to to put things in perspective.
For those of you actually interested in the numbers, google up “democide” or “power kills”.
Interestingly enough, for all the Ameri-haters out there, the USA doesn’t even place.
Go figure….
That’s unfair.
America gets a better kill count if you’re allowed to figure in our overseas wars for freedom,
clearance of indian squatters on productive land,
deaths in the slave trade and count the civil war as a war of oppression (which it was against states rights).
sorry to dissapoint you man …
Native Americans 16th–19th Century 13,778,000
Slavery of Africans 1451–1870 17,267,000
most of the slaves were transportet to the usa and native americnas were rarely seen in continental europe and great britian.
but we (ze germans) are only on place 3 … THAT was a surprise for me.
Native Americans died from disease-they had no resistance to EUROPEAN/OLD WORLD diseases. The EUROPEAN colonists, at worst, killed less than 1% of the numbers you bruit about so recklessly.
Slavery-there are NO numbers for this evil institution-therefore it’s not reasonable to include them. Besides, slaves were captured by other Africans and/or Arabs. European countries, most natably Portugal and Spain, encouraged and profited from the trade. Are they not complicit? Or do we just want to blame the evil capitalist Americans?
Sorry-but I live to shake up Euro-misconceptions. You see, I’m married to one. And, my goodness, he does love America.
Now.
Where are you getting that number from, out of curiosity?
well the numbers came from the homepage you mentoned. i just used your own sources against you. well even if only 1% of the people died of “lead”-poisoning and the other 99% of deseases, you could count it as biological warfare, because the americans took profit out of it.
and about slaves … no market – no usefullness.
Wait, who are you responding to? I didn’t mention a homepage.
You’re married to a Euro-misconception? You must be a heavy-duty philosopher.
The same hubby that served in the us military, if my recollection is correct?
*High Fives Sisy*
Anybody who likes shooting holes in euro-centric misconceptions of history rates high on my scale.
I’ll give you the point on slavery for free. Weird, but I agree with you for once.
On disease, though, I think it’s important to note that Europeans actually encouraged the spread of disease by distributing blankets used by people who died of pox. I can’t absolve genocide just because it was accomplished through bio warfare instead of labor camps, toxic showers, and ovens.
There is only one documented case of this ever happening intentionally and it was by Captain Eucyer of the British army. They did consider it according to some letters but worried about the effect it would have on their own men who were also susceptible to the disease. So, no bio warfare.
Sadly, Stalin was a rank amateur compared to Mao who is responsible for over 100 million deaths during the so-called “Cultural Revolution.”
I saw estimates that Mao was responsible for about 49 to 80 million. Not saying that’s any better than 100 million…
Well, it was better for 20 to 51 million Chinese.
Maybe not in raw numbers, but I’d suggest that in percentage of population kills, Pol Pot has got to be right up there with best of the best (worst of the worst?)
OMFG! A lol that’s not from the Obama worshipping Liberals!!!
That coming from someone named “Booty Mama”.
NEXT!
Just because they think Obama’s plans will work, doesn’t mean they worship him. And its comments like that that will further alienate people for whatever cause you do have.
OMFG! A moron post full of fail!
Hitler killed 35 million Russians (over half non-combatants)…compared to 6 million jews, but nobody ever talks about the Russian Holocaust. Another 5-10 million died from famine in Stalin’s time. Granted, though Stalin’s incompetence as a leader is partly responsible for all these deaths, he didn’t KILL 20 million people. He was a paranoid schitzo who though EVERYBODY was trying to kill him, and WE imprison a larger percentage of our population than he did. Given how big a role incompetence played in the casualties of Stalin’s regime, imagine how much worse it would have been with Bush in charge. Hitler would have been in Moscow before Bush put “мая коза” down and managed to stammer out a nearly incoherent and, of course, useless order.
“nobody ever talks about the Russian Holocaust”
That’s because most don’t know about it.
35 million people was a good chunk of the russian population at that time. I don’t know what the pop was in the 1930s, but today, that would be over 10% of the population. It could have been as much as 30% of the population that was lost during that time. To many in Russia, the mere fact that Stalin won that war, redeems him of his many faults. That is why, to this day, many still think Stalin was a good leader. 35% of russians would VOTE for him. WWII had a PROFOUND impact on Russian culture and continues to have one even today. Their entire population was nearly wiped out and nobody in the west gave a crap because they were the “evil empire”. There is some point at which one must stop demonizing one’s political enemies and develop some compassion and humanity.
Sorry for ranting, but this issue hits close to home for me…although I am not Russian.
For what it is worth, I actually was aware of the Stalin’s slaughter and starvation of his people…but I learned of it from my mother, not from school. It would have been current events when my mother was in diapers, which is probably relevant.
VG – Yeah, it’s too bad that history education is so weak here in the west.
Even though I didn’t have many sixties-era graduates as teachers when I was finishing up school in the seventies, I always thought my history education was thin, . . . until I started, listening to my younger siblings and nieces/nephews who went through school in the eighties and nineties. To borrow a phrase, it’s not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.
I consider myself lucky to have grown up in communities around Detroit and Toronto amongst many elderly immigrants from Eastern Europe. It was quite enlightening to hear their life experiences after having been taught the PC version of history in school.
What’s weird is that every kid from the second they can talk knows about Hitler. Most kids probably know a little about the USSR but have no idea about what really transpired. And no one knows about the Cambodian genocide….
yeah, not sure why you started ranting at me for pointing out that most people don’t know about the Russian Holocaust but hope you’re feeling better now.
bitter troll will feel better after he uses his bitter bathroom…ribs not sitting well
Boss, if I tell you once, I tell you a million times, leftovers no good after a week out of the fridge.
wasn’t ranting at you…just ranting in general…
I don’t think the comparison applies. Stalin did kill 20 million of his own people…so is Bush better because he’s (so far) only killed 4000 U.S. soldiers and 10,000+ Iraqi civilians?
I think it’s more like 100,000ish Iraqi civilians. The numbers vary according to source, but I think it’s generally agreed that they are well over 50,000.
And… Well, “better” is a strange word in the context. Less bad, certainly.
Why, yes.
Why do you ask such a phenomenally silly question?
according to fox news its only7 iraqi civilians…and they where more then happy to die for freedom..
That’s not the point. The point is that if you volunteer to be in the army, and everyone in the American army did, you have signed on to go to war whether you believe in said war or not. If you didn’t think the college tuition was worth the risk of death, you shouldn’t have joined the army. But if you did join, you knew what you were getting into. And if you didn’t know, it’s your own fault.
It’s rather strange how so many solders react the way they do when they get ‘stop-loss’ or whine and gripe about how the job sucks so bad. There was an old army veteran who talked about how two solders volunteered to go into the new airborne program, but they were rejected due to physical or medical disadvantages. They hanged themselves. Two young men took their own lives because they could not go the distance to serve their country in an elite unit. It’s quite the opposite now, as testosterone driven jocks or stupid ‘intellectuals’ gripe about something they signed up for with their own free will, since there is no draft anymore. People these days have lost touch.
Perhaps if the army did not constantly seek to recruit from lower class areas, promising health care and college tuition for just a few years service. Not everyone who joined the armed forces joined when we were at war. They were just offered a way out of poverty and a way to pay medical bills.
Wait… Lower class kids who feel their only option is the military because… Oh, suddenly I understand why absolutely no health care reform is going on from either side.
Yes.
uh, i don’t think they usually say Bush is “worst world leader” ever, but more like “worst [US] president” ever.
personally, i’m not sure if i would rank Bush (43) as the worst US Pres ever, because there’s a number of past presidents i know little to nothing about. One of my political-science-major friends ranked what he thought were the USA’s 5 worst presidents, and his pick for the very worst was Bush-43, but the others i knew very little about…except that Nixon may have been one of them, and i am aware of what the huge spot on his record is.
Ask a Young Republican and he’ll say Obama is the worst leader ever.
Just the young ones?
old ones remember carter
Touche, boss, touche
and he would be correct. Tell him what he won Johnny. In all seriousness, I don’t think you could put Obama in that category yet as he still has many more years to go. I personally believe he is heading for that title if he continues going in the direction he has chosen but I think things can and will change over the course of his years in the presidency as the congress will fear for their jobs and will move more back to what I consider the center.
Now now, Semper, remember, Obama is merely God’s partner. I wonder if he’s top or bottom….
lol
This just tells me you wouldn’t know the center if it came up and kissed you on the mouth.
When every other country in the industrialized world has some form of government financed single payor health care, where we are is not the center, it’s way the hell over to the right. Having a public plan competing and keeping the privates honest – not taking them over and putting them out of business – might be something resembling the center.
That’s certainly closer to centrist.
For example, in the UK we have free at point of use and immediate critical and emergency health care for all, irrespective of whether or not you have additional health insurance to handle electives. We also have prescription drugs prices to the consumer (other than odd private prescriptions) regulated to a fairly affordable level, something like about 1.5 hours work on minimum wage, and that’s if you’re not in an exempt group who get prescription meds free, like anyone still in High School or younger, anyone over 65, pregnant women…
Um no? Sorry, but most of the college students I know aren’t ignorant dolts. Bush was a horrible president, but nobody I know is saying he’s worse than Stalin.
this guy tom sellick?
from magnum p i show?
same barber at least
Most would probably name Titler…
RNC propaganda fail.
I diss aggree completely with President Obama but my God says he will give us the leaders we deserve and to pray for them. Please show the office and a man approved by God to serve his will,just as Pharo served Gods Purpose and will and when God said let my people go he did. Pray for Jesus Christ judgement on our country and the church and to lead us back to a nation under God. William Penn said the Nation that is not goverened by God will be ruled by Tyrants Bill
Which god is it that says you should pray for your profane leaders? And how do you know that god approves of a leader elected by people?
And under which god should your nation be?
Disagree isn’t two words. What does your god have to say about spelling?
Bill seems to have a very important fact wrong. It says “diss aggree completely with President Obama.” Diss does NOT aggree completely with President Obama.
Who is Tyrants Bill?
Or is it something on the table in Congress?
“World leader”? Wow, you really ARE arrogant over there. You seriously think the US is “the world”? Staling was never a “world leader” either. Ghengis Kahn, Ceasar, Alexander the Great: THOSE WERE “WORLD” LEADERS. Stalin was a dictator and a tyrant, bush was a puppet (and you can’t estimate the count of deaths he caused till the wars he started are over. There might still go off a nuclear bomb somewhere and kill millions).
I think it’s time for a president with facial hair.
It could even be Hillary, I don’t care.
You’re a poet, but ddn’t know it.
well he was definitely the worst american leader, but liberals and conservatives alike tend to only think about their own country when thinking about the worst and the best. it´s really arrogant of us.
AJ’s inauguration party trashed the White House, & he fought a duel while in office. Small beans compared to the trail of tears, but a scandal at the time.
Dude, Bitter Troll…It’s amazing you’ve got the most salient point on this entire commentary page.
You rock!
Let’s see the polls on ‘worsts’ in 100 years!
Amazing that this made it to the front page. I favorited it immediately.
If worst is = to ineffectual, then YES bush is the winner. you know how hard it is to kill 20 million people?!
I’m suddenly reminded of Eddie Izzard for some reason…
You’re all fighting on a website forum. LoL!
Hilarity ensues.
Apparently, the less people you kill, the more people talk about you.
/golfclap
The sad thing is how true this statement is…
I have asked a lot of people on my campus this question and they all say the last administration was the worst ever…
Riiiiiiight….
Morons.
Look at the current one. Has anyone seen approval numbers drop this fast?
Actually, his overall approval rating hasn’t dropped much at all;
{http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html}
What has dropped is the approval rating on what he is doing with the health care thing;
{http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_072009.html}
Gee, I didn’t know Stalin was once a US president.
Under Stalin, Russia did most of the work defeating Hitler’s Germany. Bush couldn’t even win a war he started with a much weaker country for trumped-up reasons.
Just compare what Americans did to the natives and what Stalin did to the natives. Not to mention people who died in Iraq because of American sanctions.
This is SO dumb. Number one, Bush is said to be the worst “president”, not leader. And number two, Bush could NEVER be called a “leader” using any dictionary.
Please don’t feed the troll. Move along. Nothing to see here. Keep it moving folks.
SUPER MARIO HELLSHINE!!!!
“World Leader”? is that like a American “World champion”?
Bad lol, since most college students might see it as more important to deal with the present, rather than whining about past already lost.
You losers are still fighting!
LoL! Everyone is a winner!
Yay! What do I win? Is it a pie? I hope it’s a pie.
Derp derp Bush saved America.
Aaaaa….It’s a robot! Who else would say that? (Well, maybe Zombie Reagan….*shiver*)
“You’ve killed over 20 million people? You must get up very early in the morning!”
I <3 Eddie Izzard…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edp02HyBqrY
But Bush was worse!
20 million? Come on! Everyone knows he shot at least a billion. Personally.
Also, Stalin ate babies.
This might have been more relevant a few years ago, considering at the moment it’s Obama that people are saying is worse than Hitler and Stalin. (Click my name for one of them getting absolutely owned)
Godwins Law Cat is not amused
Actually, it was more like 40 million. And that’s without counting the ones which died because of bad policies, directly caused by Stalinistic worldviews. (for example, Stalin was a Lamarckist, so he made his farmers sow summer-only crops in winter, so they would become winter crops. As a result, the harvests failed and people starved to death).
There was one thing that Bush did which Stalin didn’t do worse: Bush got his country in less debt. And that’s because Stalin outlawed currency.
In short, this is completely true. (and for the record, I’m socialist.)
Yes, because as we all know, people claim that Bush is worse than Stalin.
Oh…wait…they don’t.
This LOL fails, badly. Typical neo-con BS.
You know what’s great about Former-President Bush? That we can hate him. Imagine North Korea where you’re FORCED to like the leader, and if you say anything bad, they’ll kill you.
So because we *can* complain about him, we *shouldn’t* complain about him? Oh, and I think you’ve got the wrong LOL *lols*.
That’s really more what’s great about not living in North Korea, isn’t it?
he wasn’t a russian he was a georgian
>>he wasn’t a russian he was a georgian
Ossetian moved to Georgia but still russian )))
think you will not get it right )
speaking of numbers.
may I educate you a little? ))
there were 900k of killed in Gulag in period of 30 years. (20m is a total bs)
that’s 30k per year.
now in modern Russia there is 40k killed in traffic accidents, 40k of vodka every year. 60k of drugs and AIDS and other shit that we got with ‘democracy’!
and population overall is decreasing per 1M year for almost 20 years of ‘democracy’. after WWll we got 100M increase of population in 45 years. This is how Stalin was bad!
so. I’d better prefer Stalin!
but with internet, HD and bittorents of course )
So there was no road traffic, and no alcohol abuse, in the USSR? Perhaps you should try and find out what the comparable figures for, say, 1965 (random year at height of Cold War) were?
Much less traffic and alcohol compared to nowadays.
almost no personal transport! but good public transport system.
Production of truck was about production of automobiles. in 65 there was triumph of nation and many goals ahead – no need to drink vodka.
in late USSR there was anti-alcohol laws like in 30s in America. reached a goal I should say. but with crash of country too many people loose their goal in life and go back to vodka. thats how true genocide began!
I don’t have figures off-hand for alcohol abuse, but your RTA stats are high but not outrageously so for a developed World nation. I’d also suggest that they’ll come down as more people get more used to having private transportation available to them.
Im not talking about stats.
the point is killing 30k bad guys per year is not a bad idea, more now just die in traffic without a reason. If population is growing and you get rid of a trash. Chinese can kill drug dealers and consumers. they can kill 1M per year and they still will be growing. Its Chinese matter who to kill in there country and I cannot blame them.
Why blame Stalin for that? In face of war get rid of “fifth column” and unite nation is a good decision.
Myths of 20M killed own people is a western propaganda. It’s a part of anticommi propaganda which is part of Russophobic propaganda. Russophobic propaganda lasts for centuries and will last further. It’s a key stone of western culture – they get it with mother milk, they read it in comics, they study it in Universities. So finally they cannot stay without brains washed. If you see “20M own people killed” – bingo! You just figure another brain washed.
I cant say this is surprising. It’s a common practice – take a nation or civilization(I guess Russians are a civilization not a nation) and draw a bloody stupid barbarian. That’s how you can manipulate your crowd. Once Europeans draw barbarians of Arabs in order to sake them ) But at that time they themselves where barbarians compared to Arabs – no culture, no science.
Now the same trick is applied to Russians – to sake them as well )
But with new methods! Finances and democracy will drink oil and other recourses as blood from dead body of USSR.
I should add good and free education (I graduate russian MIT for free), healthcare, no freaking mortages – you just work and get a flat.
good morale of “Builders of communism”.
much less criminal. good families and growth of population (about 100M after WWll)
this is not words – this is achivements of high developed society which served to frighten to death western nations to make them pay to corporations and the rest )
Bloody Stalin started it. Democratic Gorbachev and Yelcin finiched. thats the story now )
That’s okay, Uncle Joe…In a few more months people will have forgotten ALLLLL about Bush.
i could be wrong but do I spot a massive fail on Stalins first name below the pic? hmmmm batman returns with the big failmobile.
I can see 2, and that’s just using the Western alphabet; 3 if I use Cyrillic.
How many Native Americans did the “real” Americans kill? Did we beat Communist Russia? Nazi Germany?
In terms of numbers, I’m thinking we beat the holocaust hands-down. Feel free to correct me, though.
Does anyone know how close we got to Stalin’s “20 million” killed?
For some reason I’m remembering the numbers to be around 80-90 million Native Americans dead as a direct/indirect result of our invasion. I can’t back that up though.
Go America. We are the best.
They assimilated.
The 80-90 million is with the effects of Small pox being introduced as well as Alcohol. You can’t really blame both on us. Small Pox is a natural killer and substances similar to Aclohol is found in all cultures.
We are even, they gave us tobacco!
Word to this.
President Bush was <3.
This IS funny, but also sooo very true. THAT part is not funny.
Twenty million? You’re quite a few million off. Think in the 43 million range
Bush was simply an idiot. Stalin, however, was not – and look what he did.
Now imagine if Bush only had the intelligence of some of the world’s worst people.
Most of you kids are complete idiots. Chowing down on the main stream media feed and chasing it with huge gulps of the Democrat koolaid.
You think Bush is an idiot simply because “they” told you to think that… made it cool to believe that, even.
Meanwhile, Obama is a complete, marxist waste of flesh, but “oh no” – He’s so cool and I’m just a racist. *sigh*
Good Bye America.
Where are you going?
It was actually more like 50 million, plus all the people that were put in gulags and concentration camps and all the people that starved to death.
EF Communism and all the Chinese and Koreans that support it. Heck, we’re gonna have to fight ‘em someday.
I don’t know many people who think Bush was the worst leader to ever have lived, they say that he was one of the worst presidents ever, and there’s plenty of proof for that. I can make generalization about Republicans too. You like Christian terrorism and criticize Muslim terrorism, when you are practically as bad as them. You aren’t even good Christians because you abhor his teachings such as helping the poor and sick, learning to love your neighbor and you never listen to the verse that says blessed are the peacemakers. All you do is complain about taxes that save lives, praise taxes that take them(that cost more e.g. the war) and all you do is worship capital punishment. Nobody cares what you have to say anymore. We all know you are racist and selfish. Now shut up.
Well at the end they are all arogant PRICKS !!! lol
What do you expect, in US “the world” mean US and maybe Canada.
While Stalin is undoubtedly one of the worst by any measure, 20 millions is still less than 10% of the population and some have managed to kill even larger percentages and I think they are worse still even the amount of deaths is smaller.
One example is Pol Pot, about 20% population killed while he was in charge, just 18 years.