If you call outlawing slavery as goading the Confederacy into war. That’s exactly what he did. The Confederacy fired the first shots and the war dragged on only because the North didn’t believe in outlawing slavery.

Yes he instituted a draft, because no white man in the North would have fought against slavery otherwise.

Yes he proposed colonization of the blacks, only to prove it was a bad idea. An idea he shared with Frederick Douglas who incidentally collaborated this fact in his autobiography.

He was the first president who invited a black man into the white house for council to the president.

Yes he instituted a tax to fund a war against the most hideous thing this country ever did… Enslave other humans based on skin color.

And yes, there were corrupt members in his cabinet as there were with every president during this time. We didn’t have the means to root them out like we do now (yes that’s sarcasm).

And any idiot who thinks Lincoln went into this war for any reason other than slavery knows nothing of the man. He even admitted to being for slavery to get elected so he could abolish it. He got tired of losing elections for standing against it, so he made a famous speech where he said he would leave it alone where it existed, with no intention of doing so. That lie haunted him the rest of his life, even though he knew he had no choice.

And while he won the first election with the lowest popular vote in history. The second election he won with over 50% of the popular vote which was unheard of at that time of more than two parties.

In four years time he got the emancipation proclamation passed and amended the constitution to eradicate slavery. No other President has come close to an accomplishment like this.

He remains the greatest president that ever lived. And for every miscreant that writes a negative post on him, there are 100 who attest to his greatness. And every idiot who called him names… 99% did so because of his stand on slavery.

Point made.

I mean, I love the guy, but he started a war and suspended habeus corpus. Re-read your history books ladies and gents, see what you find.

he does look a mess, doesn’t he? good ole abe

I have had it with a 60 year old extremely conservative guy that I was caddying for who didn’t seem to understand the meaning of agnosticism.

“Agnosticism, sonny? Well, I hope you’ve got your glasses on, don’t want to be losing any balls because you can’t see straight.”

Umm, not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

Anyone seen that Tyson documentary that came out recently? I hate to say it, but I actually want to see that!

I mean, really, familiar with fiction not written in your native language? Man, I just barely speak restaurant spanish.

Clear now Dhoti- umm, dhydar?

*is an Animaniacs junkie*

They were involved in politics and war. That is one thing I was referring to as a level of attachment, not detachment.