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Has anybody a gun for me?
Second !
A radar gun or speed gun is a small Doppler radar unit used to detect the speed of objects, especially trucks and automobiles for the purpose of regulating traffic, as well as pitched baseballs, runners or other moving objects in sports. A radar gun does not return information regarding the object’s position. It relies on the Doppler Effect applied to a radar beam to measure the speed of objects at which it is pointed. Radar guns may be hand-held or vehicle-mounted.
Most of today’s radar guns operate at X, K, Ka, IR Band (infrared), and (in Europe) Ku bands. An alternative technology, LIDAR, uses pulsed laser light.
The radar gun was invented by Bryce K. Brown of Decatur Electronics in March 1954[1], and was first used in Chicago, Illinois by Patrolman Leonard Baldy in April 1954.
There are radar detectors on the market which can detect most police radar and laser systems. Conversely, in the spirit of electronic warfare, some police radars are equipped with detectors of operating detectors.
I’m a little confused. Was Nazi’s comment a second, as in lending support to, the first comment or was it the usual “cute” comment made when one is too late to be first?
I see that viking gal assumed the latter. But maybe, given the name, he was seconding the idea of the party?
I think I need more caffeine. Or sunshine.
Why are you insulting my family Honour!?!?!?!?!
hi bro
lol,why would we have one for you
Funny that his birthday falls on the same day as the “pot holiday” 4/20.
Not funny if it’s also your birthday. Potheads and neo-nazis celebrating your birthday sucks.
My friend has an uncle who was born on 9/11
One of my friends was born on 9/11…
Sucks for him, but it’s awesome that we get cake in school during the first week or two..
Hahaha my ex-girlfriend was born on 9/11 too. Osama gives the best presents, they said…
(Why the balls would you regret being born on a day just because later some assholes chose to kill lots of people that day? F*ck them. Enjoy your cake.)
Well, I don’t know about him, but I imagine it’d suck because instead of “Happy Birthday!” people will be like “This is the day we got attacked seven years ago…. Oh, and happy birthday.
I was bummed when I realized that my birthday was the same month/day combo as Martin Luther King Jr’s assassination. Fortunately, I didn’t realize this when I was little and the even more recent… Thanks to my parents for that!
*event.
sigh.
My birthday is D-Day. And the day Bobby Kennedy died. Yay me!
I share a birthday with Mark David Chapman. That’s a bitter pill for a Beatles fan.
Could be worse. You could share a cell with him…
I believe he’s not allowed to be with the other cell mates for the exact reason that they’d kill him. If I were in prison, I probably would too. Then I’d be a hero too!
i like how the comments stretch vertically
this conversation has gone from hitler to birthdays.
also, although hitler was un-awesome, i have to thank him for existing so that “nazi zombies” was invented.
great game
but you like the bitter pills dont you rando-winks-
Jane, I have to try trolling your post. Sorry, so:
twuu uf teh wirst dey ever fur Uhmercans!!@@@!@!$%
TURRRIST
I’m not feeling that your heart is really in this attempt.
Mine doesn’t share a day with anyone else I know. It’s all mine, mine, mine!
Just out of curiosity, I did a google on my birthday and came up with some notables:
Rubin ‘The Hurricane’ Carter
Willy Mays
Bob Seger
George Clooney
The Hindenburg Disaster (this explains a lot)
International No Diet Day
I share with Thomas Paine, Henry Lee III and Oprah Winfrey…
I’ll settly for a Wikipedia link:-
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22_July
I get Adam West and Twiggy. Who knew?
I share with Johnny Knoxville
I share mine with (in no particular order):
Leslie Nielsen
Jeb bush
Sarah Palin
Rafael van der Vaart (same year as well)
Varg Vikernes
The day Nelson Mandela was released from prison.
Day of foundation of Japan
I got Lyndon Johnson, Arnold Palmer, Roger Maris and Jose Feliciano.
I share my birthday with:
Katherine Hepburn
George Carlin
Yogi Berra
There doesn’t seem to have been anything terribly historical that happened on that day, though.
Orlando Bloom and William Hung for me.
I got Pauly Shore, Brandon Lee, and Clark Gable.
My daughter shares the same birthday as Tijuana, Mexico(!)
Oh herb, sorry to hear that! You might see if you can get her birthdate changed legally.
Well, since we’re sharing other famous people on our birthdays, there’s more than just MDC for me:
Fred Astaire
Pat Summerall
Chris Berman (oh lord)
Sid Vicious
Bono (ouch)
Young MC (anyone remember him? No? Okay.)
Kenan Thompson (of SNL fame)
and star Anaheim Ducks center Ryan Getzlaf
And in 1940 on my b-day, Germany invaded a bunch of countries.
bitter troll has these guys
Nathan Bedford Forrest born on July 13, 1821
Dave Garroway born on July 13, 1913
Bob Crane born on July 13, 1928
Albert Ayler born on July 13, 1936
Patrick Stewart born on July 13, 1940
Affonso Beato born on July 13, 1941
Jacques Perrin born on July 13, 1941
Robert Forster born on July 13, 1941
Harrison Ford born on July 13, 1942
Henny Stoel born on July 13, 1945
Ivo de Wijs born on July 13, 1945
Cheech Marin born on July 13, 1946
Catherine Breillat born on July 13, 1948
Linda Yellen born on July 13, 1949
Louise Mandrell born on July 13, 1954
Cameron Crowe born on July 13, 1957
Ruud Zeumers born on July 13, 1959
Scotty Cannon born on July 13, 1962
Fatboy Slim born on July 13, 1963
Benny Benassi born on July 13, 1967
Robert Gant born on July 13, 1968
Murilo Benício born on July 13, 1972
X-Pac born on July 13, 1972
Deborah Cox born on July 13, 1974
Jarno Trulli born on July 13, 1974
Tim Dwight born on July 13, 1975
Vegard Heggem born on July 13, 1975
Al Santos born on July 13, 1976
Ashley Scott born on July 13, 1977
Eva Jinek born on July 13, 1978
Craig Bellamy born on July 13, 1979
Corey Clark born on July 13, 1980
Samia Ghadie born on July 13, 1982
Samia Smith born on July 13, 1982
Renske Endel born on July 13, 1983
Robert Vito born on July 13, 1987
Sofia Tsegeli born on July 13, 1987
Matt Weinberg born on July 13, 1990
Ridge Canipe born on July 13, 1994
YAY cut and paste!
MUUUUURRRRRDDERRRRRRRRRRRRR
Eh. Not now. I’m kinda tired.
Here, I brought some meth.
8 years ago
Can you imagine how bad his birthday had to have sucked on 9/11/01?
“Can I open presents now?”
“Shut up, we’re watching CNN!!!!”
Assuming people remember. You didn’t see the film that asked people when the attacks took place, and most had no idea? (Ok – they were Americans, so we have to make allowances, but still…)
“Excuse me, sir, can you tell me when the 9/11 attack took place?”
“Um… um… I’m not sure, was it in… December some time?”
*face palm*
I would imagine it is not a matter of regretting being born on a particular date (how could you regret something that’s not your choice anyway?) as much as cursing the fact that you can’t celebrate properly when society at large are commemorating a tragedy.
(Yes, I feel like Captain Obvious now.)
No, you’re not Captain Obvious, you’re just repeating what was said before.
So, again, what’s the problem? Their business if they want to wallow in sadness and sorrow. Not yours for wanting to celebrate, and certainly not yours for being born. Enjoy your cake.
Right. Some days I think it’d be lovely if I could be that detached from society. Most of the time i really think it’s nice to actually be a part of it, though. ;p
I never enjoy cake. Cake is icky.
(I do however massively enjoy cake wrecks.
)
“Detached”?
What is this “society” of which you speak? Certainly you don’t mean to suggest you spend every waking moment in the company of large, diverse groups of people?
1. Find people to celebrate with
2. Find place to celebrate where there are no people clouding the air with 9/11 mourning
3. Celebrate
4. ???
5. PROFIT
Celebrating your birthday during a time when a lot of people are mourning doesn’t make you a bad person, nor does it mean you don’t share their feelings. There’s respect for others, and then there’s this. Enjoy your pie.
Did I say it makes you a bad person? I meant it’s probably nicer to have other people along when celebrating, and they’d probably be more fun if they weren’t also being downcast over something like 9/11.
Mmmm, PIE. Pie is good. Kidney pie. Arrrrr….
I like that you’re trying to argue with Danbala for agreeing with you..
He said SHUT THE F*CK UP AND ENJOY YOUR PIE CHARRO!
Sheesh. *enjoys pie*
“4. ???
5. PROFIT”
Your underpants capitalism pleases me
I love cake wrecks. The one I saw the other day that looks like a baby casket will likely give me nightmares, though. O_O
I regret being born 2 weeks before Christmas. Not because my b-day is overshadowed by the most commercialized holiday of the year and my presents get lumped together, but because I only get one time to celebrate per year. I’ve always been jealous of anybody with a spring or summer birthday.
Try being born on Christmas Eve! It is a fail cake :/
Yeah – the last guy who was born on Christmas ended up strapped to a cross. That’s gotta suck
Your Internets, sir.
My cousin was born on Christmas day.
Boo. Who needs a holiday to celebrate? You’re alive. Those folks in the towers currently are not. Go get drunk, you’re obviously in luck today.
Seriously, WTF?
It does suck when parents merge your birthday and Christmas. Especially when you’re born on August 9th.
Being born shortly after Christmas sucks too.
“Sorry we spent too much money on decorations, eggnog, road trips and everyone else’s presents. Enjoy your socks and pack of gum!”
My uncle was listening to the radio in 1941 while an older cousin’s birthday party was going on. He then went to the other room and asked where Pearl Harbor was, because someone on the radio said it just got bombed. End Of Party … but just that year.
Wowzer. I bet no-one forgot that cousin’s birthday date from that point onwards!
My mother-in-law’s birthday is the day they landed on the moon. I’m guessing she didn’t have a particular good birthday that year.
Are you kidding? That would be an awesomely cool birthday.
Not when everyone is watching the TV and ignoring you.
It would be cool if you were into that sort of thing…and nasty if you were not.
Somehow it was my choice, but unfortunately there was no internets in there so i couldn’t google for a perfect date.
I remember there was a cable attached but i didn’t get a connection. Maybe some parental control software or such…
It really sucks to be disconnected for nine months!
Why the balls would you regret being born on a day just because later some assholes chose to kill lots of people that day? F*ck them.
Well, SOMEONE needs to. Does wonders for the temperament.
A little more? Try at all. (^_~)
Only someone who knows nothing about sex could think trying to get laid with a gaggle of virgins would be paradise.
~hands you a shiny internet~
*bows before your awesomeness*
*feels loved* (*^_^*)
No kidding – why would you want seventy women saying, “Ow – that hurts!,” and, “You want me to put that in my mouth?”
Ahh, but if you are completely insecure regarding your sexual ability, then it would be an advantage to get laid with someone who couldnt make a comparison.
And does that mean you can only have sex 70 times for eternity? I mean, after all, after you have sex with a virgin, they are not a virgin anymore
“Really? They’re all only 3 inches long? Okay, that’s cool.”
“Wow, you were really good – um, er, was something supposed to happen?”
“I always figured it’d last longer than 5 seconds. No? Really? Well, okay then.”
Argh. Tag close fail. (>.<)
Funny, I was about to say that probably none of the guys in this picture has ever been laid.
Well – except the one in the big picture at the back. I suspect he probably got a lot of sex.
Not according to his biographer (Ian Kershaw). Apparently Mr H had something of a hang-up about the whole beast-with-two-backs caper. Mind you, his head was probably turned by all the young women writing to him wanting to have his babies. . .
Atlanta-based rapper Ludacris has his birthday on 9/11.
Id thought Id just put that out there.
I was born on the day of the chrenyboly meltdown
my grandma’s born 9/9 my mum’s born 9/10.. and my sister’s born 9/12
:D:D:D
*sister’s born 9/14, so its her birthday today.
My grandpa was born 5/9, I’m born 5/10, and my sister is born 5/13. Mother’s Day is usually in there somewhere too. The only people as a kid who didn’t get presents growing up that day were my dad and brother.
My first daughter’s birthday is 2/9, and my 2nd daughter’s b-day is 2/10, but that’s not really much reason to celebrate…anyway…
Oh, and my wife’s grandpa’s b-day is two days before my son’s, and my MIL’s b-day is the day after my son’s. Another busy b-day time.
Why? Statistically, at least one pedophile shares your birthday, and at least one Republican. But how does that relate to you celebrating yours?
…It was my birthday, too.
3st!
Fail
umm you fail he is 3st
Can I be 176nd?
“3st” doesn’t exist. he is 3rd, though.
Threeve! It’s a mix between three and five!!
Speaks: Thirst.
This picture of a Republican/NRA meeting looks especially boring… *yawn*
How do you rednecks stand such dull lives?
Obvious Troll is obvious.
And fake. I’m hopping on the bandwagon that Again is some neocon trying to make liberals look bad. It’s teh Astroturf movement!!!
Then is the best response to Again to act like some lefty acting neon-con (just made that up, and I like it
) trying to make Again look bad. It’s the astronomically large turd movement!
So it’s a bowel movement? I like that!
Seemed appoopriate.
If you’re a liberal, you suck at it, dude. You’re either one of our many losery socks on some sort of delusional mission to make all PK liberals look bad, or you truly think you’re a good liberal. In either case, you make the liberals look bad and we all hate you. So if you’re a sock, well done, we hate you. If not, then you fail, because we hate you. Did I mention that we hate you?
Oh yay! Stereotypical assumptions abound!
Really, dude…. If you’re going to act like you’re more intelligent than everybody else, stop acting like all people of a certain belief are stupid and that other groups are better.
It merely goes to make you look like an idiot.
Don’t try to reason with it, Igor. Just open fire!
LOL!! Real Liberal>Fake Liberal!
Most NASCAR drivers come from the western U.S
We deep-fry chicken. We stuff turkey just like everyone else.
We don’t need the NRA to tell us our guns are okay, and
who doesn’t appreciate a reliable pickup truck?
Butthurt partisan troll has invoked the new ordinal post rule, has he not? Or is that only for ones in the first comment?
Good lord, it’s annoying and stupid to do it at all, let alone find new reasons to do it more.
/facepalm
Lurk more, failure. It keeps the ADD trolls from doing it repeatedly.
It starts some of the most interesting discussions on the site, and you get to learn something.
Sorry if I’ve offended your “We dunt need nun o’ dat leetist lernin’” policy.
I’ve never seen it spark an interesting discussion, just debates about how lame it is, and it certainly hasn’t been an effective intimidation tactic to bend people to your will, as you’ve suggested. Plus, holding a different opinion doesn’t make someone an elitist. Baseless name calling on the other hand…
I wasn’t calling you an elitist- I was asking why you didn’t want to learn interesting things.
And Really, if you’ve never seen it work, LURK MOAR. That’s all I have to say to you.
Cuz lolz r srs bzns amirite?
Making sure the trolls have a bad enough experience not to come back next time is.
And my point is that he should know all about something before he rails against it.
…Wut.
Trolls want a response. Any response. That’s why they’re trolls. So, plus ten points for style, plus ten for white knighting up a comment thread, but minus a couple hundred for good thinking, hmm?
I totally agree with you – I’d love to see trolls always just being ignored to oblivion. However, there’ll always be someone responding, and the ordinal post rule is better than many other options.
(Not a big fan of the ordinal posts, I might add.)
Ah, what the hell. I’m not going to argue with someone who uses 4chan… The trolls there are MUCH different from the ones here.
OK, I’ll recap: we agreed to a subset of the ordinal post rule in which the response to a pouty-butthurt-first-post involves something truly repulsive relating to anal pain. I think it should be a first post. That way we don’t have too many instances of ordinal post rule to annoy pk-ers.
*sticks pencil back behind ear*
I vote for the “The higher, the fewer” approach myself. A really good non sequitur is The Ultimate Conversation-Stopper.
Excellent idea.
Oh, and What’s the difference between a cow?
The higher it flies, the much… everyone knows that, right? (^_~) But you have to be careful; use one too often and you start a meme.
How is a troll when it spins? The higher, the fewer.
Why is a duck so much alike?
With spirit, bravado, a touch of derring-do. About eleven, sir.
No no…because each one is both the same!
Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?
Shouldn’t you be enjoying your cake… or something?
“You’re doing it wrong.”
I wasn’t aware that you were such an expert in the field of the psychology of the obnoxious. Trolls are still, on some level, people. Ignoring them will only make them feel like they want acceptance from the community here, whereas on other places they can have discussions with a thousand different groups of people and never talk to the same person twice. The difference is is that most of the trolls on PK simply don’t realize how idiotic they’re acting and will stop if you point out the massive fallacies in logic / how stupid it is to post something, or at least they’ll run home to mommy, whereas in other places they don’t care or you just can’t get to them all.
These days, this is what I think of every time I hear “You’re doing it wrong.”
arimareiji:
That was an unusually good “you’re doin’ it wrong” caption.
Thank you, it’s nice to know when something appeals to more than just my weird sense of humor. (^_^) I can’t take credit for the idea, though… all I did was plagiarise so I could print a non-lolspeak version.
(I hate posting stuff on my locker at work if it makes me look like a retarded kindergartener.)
That’s what you get for leaving ROFLRazzi. Ba bye now.
You ever “git any of that thar leetist lernin’ thar, son”, or are you another Flyover Country Bumpkin who “figgers good ‘nuf is good ‘nuf when it comes to lernin”?
And how exactly are you a “success” anyways?
Oh, I’m still getting the learning, you butthurt tool.
So far? I’ve read two of my textbooks back to front and nothing I’ve found in any of the others has made me think you’re less of an idiot. By the way, I’m all for learning. And didn’t say I was a success.
Up your rules, dude.
As for being partisan, so what of it. Sometimes you have to take sides, boy. Which side are you on? Or are you one of those pathetic fence-sitting “moderates” who tries to get along with everyone?
In life sometimes you have to stand on principal and that makes people hate you. Tough nuggets I say! I believe what I believe and people’s petty attempts to label me only prove that they are weak-minded morons who can’t take a stand.
Tell me, what do you believe in?
I believe, that whatever doesn’t kill you.. Simply makes you.. Stranger.
Speaking from experience, you would correct!
*be*
Yeah, I’m a lot stranger to myself than I used to be.
I’m a liberal, but I’m not a jackass to people about it. You see, you act like it makes you better than anyone else, and that’s where your logic fails- you’re acting like a classic narcissist. You believe in something, therefore it’s right, and everybody else must be stupid, since you’re perfect. Great anecdotal evidence, right? Then, anyone who disagrees with you is either stupid because they’re of a different political opinion or are a TRAITOR.
I’m not a weak minded moron who can’t take a stand, I’m someone who learned to act like others are EQUAL to me a long time ago.
I prefer to act like people are sweet n lo to me. Srsly.
yeah, and the horse you rode in on, kimosabe..
Well, I suppose we could celebrate the fact that Hitler ended up dead, in a ditch, on fire, with his newlywed wife (also dead, in a ditch, on fire) next to him.
History has a way of being so deliciously funny sometimes.
Seriously, though, Neo-Nazis are amongst the lowest form of scum.
Amen
Eddie Izzard reference!! hellyeah! and anyway, you’re perfectly right
“neo”-communists are worse since communism has killed WAYYYY more people than Hitler ever did and yet the lefty scum here seem to think that communists are the greatest thing since sliced bread and worship the so called “president”, maybe if they’d bother to read a history book and figure out what communism/socialism IS, they might get a clue and see that everything he’s trying to do is straight out of the Communist Manifesto and Rules For Radicals.
But I doubt it. Stupid is as stupid does.
I hate to tell you, but communism has never killed anyone. COMMUNISTS, on the other hand, may have.. But communism itself is completely innocent. It’s an idea, moron. Ideas can’t kill people. Only shoddy implementation, and people.
Did he actually just deny reality by saying “so-called ‘president’”? And then did he actually try to tell us that WE need to learn what socialism and communism is, AFTER having said that apparently social concepts killed people?
*tilts his head to the side*
Really?!
I stopped reading at “Since Communism has killed WAYYYY more people..” Since I knew the rest of the post was just one big ball of fail.
I knew that after having gotten as far as NO_MO :p
Well, I thought I’d *try* to read it… But the fail hurt my brane.
NO_MO cannot brain today. He has the fail.
I wonder if we can get NO_MO & Again to fight each other and maybe they’ll cancel each other out.
Or maybe it’ll be like when Zuul & Vince Clortho got together in Ghostbusters. I thank that would be extraordinarily bad.
I also *think* it would be extraordinarily bad. Dammit.
I thank so too.
Think you very much.
With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito’s Yugoslavia.
In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century’s international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone–one communist country– well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it
Without COMMUNISM, you can’t have COMMUNISTS you F%$*ing IDIOT.
It MAY HAVE???? Are you actually saying Stalin or the Chinese COMMUNISTS never killed anyone? What planet are you on? Or are you just a product of the COMMUNIST teachers union who teach non-history? Or just a complete and total moron?
Probably a combination.
PS Douch Bag #2: Nazism (the NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY) was just a “social concept” too so I guess by your brilliant “logic”, that never killed anyone either, right?
PS #2;
Charles Manson never killed anyone but was convicted of murder, therefore, ideas can kill people in the eyes of the law. I also don’t think Hitler ever actually killed any Jews but HIS IDEA was responsible for it.
You losers loved to whine about Bush for 8 years and had no problem calling him Hitler but as far as I know he didn’t have any “CZARS” who were self-proclaimed COMMUNISTS, now did he?
But the real question is, how is a troll when it spins?
My, my, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed, too bad he/she didn’t take it out on their significant other, after all they volunteered for the stupidity, oh wait, someone like that probably can’t get a significant other.
I think someone also forgot to take his/her psychoactive meds.
NO_MO_BAMA hates America. I think it’s fairly obvious now.
by that logic, anyone who is catholic is one serious SOB. How dare they be part of an ideal that was responsible for killing huge amounts of people during the crusades, inquisition, and general killing protestants. someone go arrest the pope!
*goes to arrest the Pope* CITIZENS ARREST! COME OUT FUKCER!!
“What!1! I’m the FREAKING pope!”
Dude. Whoa. I mean…dude…whoa.
Grow up, you 11 year old twit. Ideas don’t kill people.
PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. Get over it.
Just because people used their ideals as justification doesn’t make the ideals bad.
It’s called “Guilt by association”- it’s a fallacy in logic.
I’m not a product of the teacher’s union, I’m a proud member.
I’d love to know what reality is like for this douche. Then again, that might frighten me too much. O_O
I’m a part of a teacher’s onion. Is that the same?
You’re funny. I have an idea, you should die.
Did that work? Did my idea kill you? No.. Because Ideas don’t kill people. People kill people… Moron.
But you’re cute and frothy. Keep going, you amuse me so. NOW SQUEAL!
Thank you for pointing that out charro.
Also, let it be known that Communism, in itself, is not a bad idea at all even though American propaganda (bought and paid for by Corporations, who of course desire the iron death grip of Capitalism on mankind) has villified it for decades now…
Communism would work *if* you could get people in charge who were dedicated to it, instead of stealth Capitalist oppressors bent on gaining and maintaining power and dominion over others.
Also, the rest of the people have to be willing to do it.
Which, sadly, is why it will never work. Humanity is too corrupt for communism.
I know. It makes me sad. On a daily basis.
Really?
What makes me sad is the state of the world now, not the future politics we won’t measure up to. I mean, there’s Anniee, NO_MO, various butthurt partisans, and Again. Oh, and my wife the post-stalker, and just about every other troll I’ve ever met…
They’ve almost gotten to my little brother.
Bastards.
Save him from their froth, Tygor. It’s up to you!
I know. I talk to him every night on how much fail people contain, and have him read wiki articles on logical debate, ad nauseum, proof by assertion, reductio ad absurdum, etc.
He better end up a smart little boy…
Don’t force the cynicism on him too early. That’s something he needs to learn for himself. It’s more real that way.
Now that I agree with almost entirely. charro already pointed out the only flaw. You win this round.
You see, the problem with communism is that it ignores people’s right to what they produce. If I work harder than someone else and produce something of higher value, than I should get something that is of equal value TO ME. If I have earned something through achievement, not dependency, I am deserving of what I have earned.
Now, to be fair, socialism, and the altruist mentality as a whole, have a place in society. The problem is choice. If a society is free to help people on a personal and local level, there are more than enough giving, caring individuals to help sustain the lives of people who really are unable to do it themselves. But if a government tries to intervene, and altruism becomes a forced mandate, then people are less inclined to want to help, because they no longer have control over their assets. The communist creed, “give according to your ability, take according to your need,” sums this up beautifully. If someone decides that they don’t want to work hard, it’s ok, because they get the same as everybody else. That’s human nature. But if that person must instead rely on their own devices to succeed, you will find that a certain level of personal responsibility takes over, and that person’s success and failure is entirely their choice, because the situation they are in is subject to their own interpretation of how they can succeed. Human nature once again takes control and directs that person in the direction of how best to ensure their own survival.
Now, a lot of the people that like to say “oh, communism’s fine, but human nature just doesn’t allow it to work because people are greedy and selfish,” you don’t seem to see that the only other viable solution is to live in a system where human nature works in the favor of those who apply it and everyone benefits. aka, CAPITALISM. You like to point at “the evil corporations and their fat-cat CEO’s who make too much money,” but most of these people have done nothing wrong. They work hard, build a business from the ground up, become corporations and USUALLY pay their employees generous wages (which, as a side note, 97% of that richest 50% of Americans are wage earners, so what did they do wrong to deserve to have their money stolen from them). Unfortunately, there are always people in the world who disguise themselves as capitalists, but are really just douche-bags. Bernie Ebbers, for example, Ex-CEO of MCI, always has the finger pointed at him for an example of why capitalism is “evil.” He took advantage of thousands of employees, stole their earnings, and bailed. But that’s the problem, he TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THOSE PEOPLE, which is in clear violation of capitalist ideals. “Give according to your ability, take according to your achievement,” the capitalist creed. Bernie did not do this. He gave minimally and cheated his way to fortune, not earning it. The role of government in economics is to stop people like Bernie from stealing their way through life, and that’s their only role. Let people live their lives, and clean up the bad guys when they perpetrate their evil deeds. In this system, honesty and responsibility will prevail, because the path of the liar, the cheat, the looter and the crook only lead to personal destruction.
Wow, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean for this to turn into a book. Kudos if you made it all the way through.
I’m sure there will be many grammar and spelling errors. If you find one, keep it to yourself, because that’s just immature and detracting from the issue at hand.
“Now, a lot of the people that like to say “oh, communism’s fine, but human nature just doesn’t allow it to work because people are greedy and selfish,” you don’t seem to see that the only other viable solution is to live in a system where human nature works in the favor of those who apply it and everyone benefits. aka, CAPITALISM.”
No. You are making a big and faulty assumption that the best form is any of the isms in its pure form.
I didn’t say that in its purest form, capitalism is guaranteed to work. Somewhere toward the end of the 4th paragraph, I stated what the governments role in economics is (aside from the obvious collecting taxes for military, interstates, etc.). The thing that makes capitalism as an ideal the most logical is its inherent room for error. If you mess up, you have the opportunity to to recover and become more successful than you previously were. With communism, or any of it’s subsequent forms, your success depends on the whims of others, and that opportunity only becomes mere chance.
Right, it sounded like you did in the piece I quoted. I apologise for reading too much into that.
Don’t be sorry. I practically wrote a novel, so I understand if some parts are forgotten
“as a side note, 97% of that richest 50% of Americans are wage earners, so what did they do wrong to deserve to have their money stolen from them” – Misuse of statistics FAIL!! In any society, getting on for 97% of those on above average incomes will earn a wage, but that doesn’t mean that their wage is their only source of income. More to the point, it doesn’t mean that they have done anything to deserve their priviliged position beyond being born to wealthy parents.
So success is only possible if you have rich parents, and therefore success is really just an illusion because only people born into wealth are able to maintain wealth? What percentage of those people do you think have had everything handed to them? The white-collar supervisor of Such-n-such corporation, more often than not, started out with the same opportunity as anyone else. By starting at the bottom of the ladder (the middle if he had a good college education), they climbed their way up to that position their in now. They are not deserving of what they earn? If they make a few investments and are in a mutually agreed upon contract with another that states that he will get x% of that profit in return for the initial investment, what entitles some other random person to a cut of that profit if they didn’t make that deal? The investor took the economic risk, not some random schmo. You say it is a privileged position, but are you implying that it is entirely unearned? I’m all for people receiving what they earn. If someone is making more than they deserve, they’re being dishonest to themselves and those around them. I don’t accept blatant dishonesty. But let’s be realistic, most of those wage earners really did earn their way to their position, regardless of previous economic endowment. If you want to succeed, you have every opportunity to, be it through academic achievement or otherwise. Ability and hard work don’t discriminate between socioeconomic classes.
Capitalism naivety fail in almost every sentence. *sigh* We’ve been over this hundreds of thousands of times. No, seriously, eleventy hundred thousand to be exact.
Unlike the two posts above you, this really isn’t trying to make a point. If you have a point to make, make it. Don’t stall by making vague, unimportant statements that convey absolutely no useful information. I wrote half a page on this. If you want to comment, at least have the courtesy to share an interest.
If you’re trying to say that neither system in its purest form can work, than I’m inclined to agree with you. The understated point in my initial post was that on a national level, a free market system will work, while socialist mentality works best on a small scale (communities, communes, families, etc). Altruism can work in a free society, but it has to be by choice for it to have any value.
If it is mandated, it ceases to be altruism and ends up as stealing. When the government takes your money by force, redistributes it to someone else, that someone else will often times be someone you would never willingly give your money to. If it is someone that you would give money to, you also don’t control how much you give. I hate to use this as an example (and believe me I mean I really hate to, this is a subject I have debated to death outside of PK), but let’s take abortion. If abortion is made legal by the national government, it becomes a healthcare service that must be provided by state-funded hospitals. Then you have tax dollars from roughly half of the tax payers (pro lifers, very rough estimate) paying for the abortions of other people. Now, if abortion becomes something the states vote on, at least then the representation between the two sides is a little more even and if the abortion laws in one state are truly unacceptable, you have the option to move to a different state.
Also, Rando, I just want to say that I respect you, and I know you can make a more intelligent comment than that.
Communism is completely innocent: just an ideology. But like any ideology (including Islam, Fascism, Christianity) trying to use it as a basis for govenment is a sucky idea. Ideas and government should be kept apart. I just want government to empty my bins and mend the roads, not tell me how to live.
Okay, now call the Wal-Mart pharmacy, and tell them that your medication has run out again. Hopefully they can get it to you before you get stabby again. But you’re definitely delusional again.
There’s a medicine for people who debate by quoting Forrest Gump?
It’s street name is “box-o-chocolate”
Please accept this shiny internet from the bottom of my heart.
Urban Dictionary: “BOC” can cause sleepiness, dopeyness, and can affect the ability to think clearly and walk and chew gum at the same time. Long term abuse can pose serious risks, including onset of Isopodism.
Thank you.
How in the world have you equated left-handed writers and people getting killed, with communism? :O
Anyhow…speaking of figuring out what communism/socialism is, you might want to brush up on your history yourself. It’s a political idea, and the Communist Manifesto is more or less the presentation of such in its IDEAL state. And by the way, FDR was also attacked as being a communist over the second New Deal. Most historians view him as one of the greatest presidents in U.S. history.
muttermuttercommiehistoriansmuttermutteriknowallaboutthemfancyintellectualsmuttermutterpinkobastardsmuttermutter
Oh, it didn’t wrap the line, That kinda killed that post. Oh well. :/
No, that’s what made it —
gives the effect of *mumbles as walks off into distance*
Oh, that’s true. Then … Ummm … That was how I meant it to be! Really! The “killed the post”-post was just a joke! Honest!
A WINNAR IS YOU.
We of the left-handed are planning our rise to power. This is your only warning.
“Most historians?!” I think that you will find with a little more research, most historians believe quite the opposite. In fact, many studies, conducted by actual historians at hundreds of universities across the country agree that if FDR had not intervened, the depression been harder in the short term (1-3), but after that, the economy would have stabilized properly, we would have a much smaller, less intrusive government, and we wouldn’t have detrimental relics of the New Deal burdening our economy and causing our national debt to rise at it’s current, disastrous rate.
Rule of Tyler’s thumbs #24=
If it has relics, it’s clearly an epic enough event to be called “great”.
I’ll assume that in this context, “great” is meant to mean “having significant historical or cultural impact,” because I’m pretty sure a bankrupt social security system and a welfare program that promotes a growing poor population and class warfare is not great in the “this is awesome” sense.
“would have been harder in the short term” Yikes. My mother was born in ’32, and grew up hearing exactly how hard it was. You might want to do some research on that fact before casually suggesting that temporarily making it worse would not have been a bad thing.
It’s a right wing tactic of attacking FDR’s social programs. Even though it would seem common knowledge dictates that FDR’s program helped pull us out of the Depression, one of the more recent anti-Democrat stances is that FDR actually made everything worse. Of course, it’s very easy to say that 70 years later. I wonder if you asked anyone who still remembers the depression what they thought of FDR what they’d say. He didn’t get reelected 3 times because he sucked.
I’m not going to pretend that the new deal didn’t help. What I am saying, however, is that that help, which helped in the short term, came with some major strings attached. The social security system, for instance, was a great tool to get people to elect FDR, but he must just forgotten how economics worked when he created a system that was doomed to fail in the long run because the capital invested initially, as a whole, can only decrease with a shrinking young population and a booming senior population. don’t pull this “right wing tactic,” nonsense just to get any ignorant readers to automatically side with you without examining the logic of your statement. Using loaded phrases is just a “dishonest tactic.”
It’s not a relic because it’s good, it’s a relic because too many people have been forced to become dependent on it.
meh, my sarcasm detector blue-screens at about 1:30. ty for the clarification lol
My brain kinda fizzled out after writing my book a few posts above. I really need to get some sleep…
You’re the one who needs to to figure out what communism and socialism are. Here’s a great big clue: They’re ECONOMIC systems. They involve MONEY. Not race, not gender or sexual orientation, MONEY.
And as for the “National Socialist Party”, lemme let you in on a little secret, Sparky: they’re *stupid*. If they weren’t morons, they wouldn’t be neo-nazis! So don’t use them to support your arguments unless you want to make yourself look even more fail-tastically stupid than they are.
“Fail Hitler!”
What’s especially hilarious is the kiddy-birthday banner letters they have taped to the front of their table
Mein Kampf
Starting the tradition of Fox endorsed best sellers!
The *Adolph Hughie* Series.
Lulz
The guy standing right in front of the Hitler portrait kinda looks like he’s black.
Extra helping of fail if he is, but it may just be suntan + crew cut — looks like he’s roughly the same skin tone as the guy to the far left of the photo.
White supremacists get the deep tans? My boss is a white supremacist???? I thought he was just vain. And as much disdain as I have for the Republicans, calling them all racists isn’t fair. There are racist Democrats too. Racist libertarians or independents or what have you. Racism is an irrational illness that knows no politics. And being in Mensa means nothing, dude. I’m sure there are plenty of racist people in Mensa too. You know who told me that being in Mensa is useless? My uncle. Who is in Mensa.
Yeah that guy may be evil, but it’s that Hitler dude behind him I’d be worried about.
*cringes*
Don’t worry too much, I heard he’s dead.
I don’t think wangification occurs if the Adolf guy is actually part of the lol picture. Am I correct in this?
I’ve always had the impression that wangification is realted to Godwin’s law, so as far as I’ve understood it, you are correct. (As long as Hitler isn’t in the lol in a Godwinesqy way.)
What a subversion of Godwin’s Law this thread is. Does its existence mean we all automatically lose? Or is loss impossible given that Godwin’s Law should have been invoked in the first post and the thread isn’t over yet?
Because Godwin’s law is srs bznss.
And this r srs thread.
This is another example of reverse Godwin’s Law, where you post a picture of Hitler and the conversation spins out in a million directions. For the best example ever, see the “First Bush was Hitler” thread.
I actually almost wish he were still alive.
Not because I liked him in any way at all, he was a screwed up headcase and if anybody deserved to die it was probably him, I just think he’d be a psychologist’s dream.
And we could also find out how NOT to raise your children. Save the future from the next Hitler.
it probably wouldn’t have been that interesting. So far as I am aware his batsh!t crazy started later in life, whereas beforehand he was charismatic and rose to be a leader…so it’s probably more to do with some form of depression or other brain altering affliction than how he was raised…
Also, he started off all of those yelling and spewing speeches very differently. He would seem very shy and quiet at first, and ‘let the topic lead him’ into the nutcase we would see on film in the US. Which made him seem all passionate about ideas to the Germans of the time. We rarely see the buildup on our TV shows–the one time I did was a huge revelation.
He and Nixon also seem to have acquired head-of-state-induced paranoia.
Said Anon, with usual calm aplomb, which we’ve come to count on, like a three ton stink bomb.
Silly republicans
Silly butthurt partisan troll.
Try again Eeyore the Ordinal
No he doesn’t have to.. he was pretty much dead on.
They make cream you can put on your front butt – apply directly where it hurts
front butt?!?
In gmc360′s case, he means face cream.
I was just thinking, “How nasty does she have to be for that ‘front’ to be considered another butt?”
No he was pretty much dead-brained (as usual)
Hey “Igor” – Stop sniffing gas with your emo “bois” and get an education before you spout your Foxtardedness again.
I don’t watch FOX.
I’m not for discrimination in any form, you f*cking idiot.
I don’t sniff gas or do any type of drugs in order to get high, I don’t use textspeak like “bois”, and emo is just another stereotype… You don’t see the inherent flaw in logic, you moron? I’m a liberal. I’m not for bashing someone merely for being republican, I’m for bashing someone if their logic is flawed. Like both yours and GMC’s is.
Sounds like something you would know about. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Wow you really have a hard-on for Igor huh.
No good troll around here DOESN’T have a hard-on for me.
How else would it be fun?
Speaking of good troll.. Where is bitter? I’m lonely.
Me too.
Speaking of, has anybody seen HST lately?
I haven’t seen him since…. Since… Again’s first coming…. and since we caught JoJo the same day we met Again…..
Does anybody else here see a pattern?
Dude, if it’s HST, I’m kicking his hairy ass.
Me too.
HST? Who dat?
Hairy Sexy Troll. He’s done it before just to mess with us. HST, we’re calling you out!
Aah. Thanks, I knew I should’ve been able to figure it out, but just didn’t. :p
Igor? Spouting “Foxtardedness?” You are very very wrong.
you can still celebrate someone’s birthday no matter what they’ve done to the world.
idiots.
Well, when you celebrate someones birthday, you’re celebrating the fact that they were born, and only douchebags would celebrate Hitlers birth. I think almost everyone would be more pleased if Hitler was never born at all. Those that wouldn’t be more pleased are space-waste.
So, you guys do know that Hitler, however wrong his actions were, was also a hero from a German’s point of view, right? His leadership brought Germany out of a huge recession. Don’t get me wrong, he was a horrible person, but there are certainly a lot of people who aren’t racist who have a lot of reason to celebrate the man.
Sorry, it would still be dumb to celebrate him now. Even if they didn’t care about people from other countries. About 10 million Germans died in the fighting of WWII. Is pulling out of a recession worth the death of 10M of your own countrymen?
Also, take a look at the flags in the photo. These numskulls have a US flag. Probably not German citizens in question.
Really? Are you freaking high?
Yeah for real. “Yay we’re out of the depression! What’s next? We’re all gonna die?!! Ooooooooh. Bummer.”
this might have been true right before the outbreak of wwii, but hitler was a lot less popular after the complete devastation of germany. there aren’t many then or since who consider hitler a hero by any mark (no pun intended) beyond his policies of racial hatred. and the only consideration we should extend to those people is to monitor them closely.
True, that. And if it weren’t for the Marshall Plan, Germany would have been in even more of an economic pit after WWII than it had been after WWI. So really, no reason to celebrate him at all.
He is most certainly not a “hero” from a German’s point of view. Rather, what those guys in the image are doing would land them in prison if they were in Germany.
“Was” being the operative word. He WAS a hero for bringing them out of their economic troubles. But he isn’t now, and I have a feeling this picture isn’t from the 1930 or ’40′s. Plus, the “Happy Birthday” sign’s in English, so I doubt this is happening in Germany. And even in Germany TODAY, I think most people who would celebrate him would be Neo-Nazi racists. So while you have a valid point about Hitler not always having been seen as evil by everyone (which is actually true about a lot of historical figures most people would vilify), nowadays, few people anywhere celebrate him for any good reason.
So, where’s Pat Buchanan? He’s written enough Hitler apologetics to be invited. Maybe that guy is holding up the birthday card Pat sent in lieu of attending.
(Not trolling – Buchanan really is quite the Hitler apologist.)
Oh, QQ.
Righty-tighties?
Conservative undergarments.
I thought only mormons had those.
LOL! BRILLIANT!
Yeah… Righty tighties…
I’m about as liberal as they come on every issue except that we should bash Republicans. It’s a different political ideology, and is completely unrelated. Not all educated people think the same thing.
If we did, there would be very little debate and the world would be a bunch of brainwashed zombies crushing a few backwood hicks.
14/88! SIEG HEIL!!!
JESUS?!?!
HOW THE BALLS DID YOU GET OUT OF MY TRUNK
He’s Jesus, duh.
Are they seriously flying the American flag next to that Nazi rag? My head is going to explode.
Is it the first time you’ve come across that? I recommend buying some sort of containing helmet – you’ll have plenty of head explosions… :p
The sites I frequent don’t usually display pictures of neo-nazis, so yes it is the first time I’ve come across it.
But there are other forms of communication outside of the internet. I suggest you expand your horizons a bit more beyond what’s available online – the library is a good start.
Why would I make any kind of effort to look for stuff about neo-nazis? They’re not a serious threat to anyone, except in their own minds.
Besides, just because I haven’t come across this particular visual image before doesn’t mean I’m ignorant about everything, or that I’ve never been to a library. It just means I’m not interested in looking at pictures of neo-nazis.
I was really being sarcastic.. couldn’t you tell?
Obviously. But you were still trying to make the point that if I’ve never seen a picture of the Nazi flag next to the American flag at a neo-nazi rally because it has never appeared on a website I visit, it must be because I’m ignorant of other methods of learning besides the Internet. My point was that you pretty much have to go looking for neo-nazi stuff on purpose if you’re looking somewhere other than the Internet, so your sarcasm is misplaced.
Unless it hits the news.
Maybe KD doesn’t browse the news sites? I don’t intentionally go looking for pictures like this either, but it’s not the first time I’ve seen it done.
I’ve seen neo-nazis on the news before, but I’ve never seen them holding the Nazi flag next to the American flag.
And eddiepscetti has missed my point again. I said you’d probably have to be looking for it intentionally if you were looking somewhere *other than* the Internet. If you’ve seen it on news sites (or, as I now have, on this site) without looking for it, that’s something else.
Oh look, up in the sky! It’s Whatever-Man..
Well, next time you want to start a debate just to be contrary, try not to use weak, fallacious arguments.
Next time don’t act like this particular type of picture is the first one that has ever appeared.. anywhere.
I didn’t say it was the first that has ever appeared, I just expressed my surprise because it was the first time I had ever seen it.
Ok, you’re right, I’m wrong.. happy?
eddie, you too need to spend some more time offline
Yes
anon, you need to get the hell off my lawn.. it’s 6:00 am on a Monday morning and I’m feeling grumpy. Any other issues you would like to address?
Well more over, you mistook Eddie’s sarcasm for actual truth of matter, he wasn’t making an argument, merely using satire to say that it wasn’t that uncommon an occurrence.
His sarcasm wasn’t misplaced, considering that Neo-Nazis often do, and will show up on mediums other than the internet. You could have easily left this with a “Fair enough”
but instead you decided to get butthurt that someone *GASP* used SARCASM on the internet, and forced out this long… weak… and fallacious argument… Eddie, obviously noticing that you’re far too sensitive for this kind of thing, decided to give you the easy way out and conceded defeat…
Now that it’s all over… might I just say… “You’re a sensitive boy… aren’t you Tommy?”
I suggest you get right.. before “Zee Germans” arrive.
@KD:
As explained to anon, I’m still waking up and have to go to work. That would make anyone pissy, yes?
@eddiepscetti: I didn’t realize it was early morning for you. I was just being contrary as well. I think we all need to have a good argument every once in a while to get our frustrations out and keep our wits sharp. Hope you have a nice day
@Maxwell: I’m a girl, and you’re beating a dead horse.
Until then
Hey KD, I’m sorry, but you just revealed that you’re female for the first time, and since I’m the resident teenager around here…
Would you mind beating MY dead horse?
That said, make the adults stop fighting!
It was a quote from “Snatch” you could have BEEN the dead horse… it wouldn’t have mattered.
“That thing would do more damage if you fed it to em”
KD… dare I say it, Lang?
kd lang. Amazing singer, but definitely not a teenager!
Well, you certainly wouldn’t want to beat a live horse. That’d be animal cruelty!
Wish you mentioned about the containing helmet earlier *picks up pieces of exploded head*,
How can you be an proud American (displaying the flag), the America that fought the Nazis to destruction (with a little minor help from Russia
) and culturally identifies itself as anti-Nazi – and yet be a proud Neo-Nazi? What sort of screwed up mental processes are involved? Oh – oh . . .*just repaired head explodes again*
The only bit of your question that is relevant is “how can you be a neo nazi”.
I concede the point – WWII was not America v Nazis and Europe suffered far more from the Nazis than the Americans did – it was an ideology that was truly insane and millions died because of it – to revive such evil is a poor indication of the mental health of humanity in general.
But the thing that stuck me is that I believe that Americans place enormous cultural store in their flag (even the national anthem is an ode to the flag), it is symbolic of “the American Way” if I can put it that way. So the doublespeak that must occur in their minds to have such two diametrically opposed symbols together – well, that’s when I thank you for the suggestion of a containing helmet
You can only revive what has died. Sadly the NAZI party never really died…
C’mon, who are you, really? The game’s over. We’re calling your bluff. You can’t possibly be real. Nobody is that ignorant. And if you are, surely someone prescribed something for you by now.
I have an explanation.. you remember when you were in grade school there was always that one kid that would be running across the school yard that always smacked into the bars? They were never quite right after that, and the hit they took had the same effect as a lobotomy.
Yes, yes I did – that is why I mentioned “minor help” and added the smirk, as in an ironic reference to the fact that Russia won the war with a little help from the West (which they did not teach in my classrooms because we were going through a cold war at the time and did not wish to be reminded of the heroism of Russia in WWII)
“America that fought the Nazis to destruction (with a little minor help from Russia
)”
And I suppose the rest of Europe just sat around playing monopoly while all this was going on, and didn’t help one little bit?
Are you really this ignorant of history?
Wasn’t The Klan a great American Tradition at one point? Cause that doesn’t sound like an all round family group that you’d want your kids to join.
Plus isn’t America all about free speech? Or is free speech only granted to those who agree with you?
Btw, I feel a bit sorry for you now – not even with the winky smiley did your sarcasm get picked up by those on the warpath. :/
Well its easy to mistake sarcasm for ignorance. And I assumed the smiley was just referring to the “little help” from Russia, and that he/she/whatever wasn’t skipping out the whole of Europe for comedic effect (and, on a side note, all those who died in the war thank you for using them for comedic effect), but because he was in fact a young, arrogant nothing-knowing moron (or Yank, as they are sometimes called).
“all those who died in the war thank you for using them for comedic effect”
I’m sure they’re thrilled!
I’ll assume the last phrase of your sentence is a joke.
It’s easy to mistake sarcasm for ignorance if you want to be offended and have a rant at those who are intellectually beneath you – but it’s also helpful if you ignore the context, a feat you have done remarkably well.
The context was that I was struck by the juxtoposition of the Nazi flag, a representation of all that is evil, both in the real world and Hollywood and in equal place on the opposite side the Star Spangled Banner, which I believe (as an Irish Australian, I can only go by my observations, so I apologise if in error) Americans hold in great reverence as the symbolic repository of what Americans believe to be all that is great in America, that of a Free Nation where all are equal under the Law – that is certainly the impression I have received from Hollywood. And I wondered at how the douchebags in the picture do not see the contradiction
Whilst I concede that the point was not clearly made, I refer you to Danbala’s critique, which was intelligently focused and allowed me an opportunity for clarification, rather than to your NANA NANA NA YOUR A WRONGO POO approach
As to your comment re the KKK, they are not the best representative of what is good in America and I doubt that most Americans when they look at the flag, think “Wow! We are so good, we invented the KKK”
The free speech thing is, um, what the? That was sort of my point – free speech is most definitely not the Nazi thing and yet these people have no idea that they are championing the destroyers of free speech on the left and the champions of same on the right – in fact it is free speech that will ultimately destroy Nazi ideology in the long run as it is inherently insane and cruel and will die a horrible death in the marketplace of ideas, as per John Stuart Mills
As per your side note, I note that it was somewhat early in the morning and such an inane comment would not have been made had you had your morning coffee
Thx
my winky smiley is in the shop for repairs, it’s not working properly apparently
and I appreciate the first comment too, I didn’t make it clear what I was thinking when I saw this picture – but you were not nasty about it
Drive on the Interstate much? That was a Third Reich invention.
Sorry to inform you, but no it wasn’t. Hitler pushed hard for it once he got there, but the idea already existed. And don’t go ranting on me, as I am hard core against Hitler and the entire idea of Fascism, Socialism, Communism and ect…..
Call me the Enumerated Powers Party. Because I could not with good conscience support neither national party right now, and the last Libertarian to run in Charlotte told us that the problem was the curse of King Tut, and he knew how to remove it.
You see… the secret is desecrate the mummy’s remains FULLY…
our last independent 1. ingested silver nitrate to avoid the effects of Y2K and turned blue.
2. went to a debate hosted at a university and told everyone there was no need for schools at all and if he was a senator he would get rid of them…
W00t Libertarians! I’m not one of them but their ideas at least make some sense. I remain an independent more or less because I’m paranoid. Don’t ask me to explain why, because I don’t know what my paranoia has to do with political parties. I guess I just suspect they’ll start mailing me stuff…
I wonder if the people at Howard Johnson’s were upset when they found out they had been duped when the conference room wasn’t booked by The Friends of Dolphins?
*spits tea* {coughs and gags} [passes out and awakens an hour later]
OK EDDIE. Warn a fellow first. Where is my shamwow?
Aw hell!!!1! The sounded so nice on the phone too.
“Uh, Mr. Wilkins, have you actually LOOKED in conference room 1A?”
“Their check cleared. That’s all that mattered.”
Ohhhh, that actually came close to happening down here last year. Some neo-nazi group with an innocuous-sounding name (apparently, I can’t remember what the group called itself) booked a hotel/conference center for their meeting….shortly before it was due to happen, it came out in the local press what type of group it was and there was a HUGE fuss, angry phone calls, threats to protest; I think the conference center refunded their deposit and asked them to go elsewhere.
That’s what I would’ve done. I wouldn’t want to be the guy who let the neo-nazis use my conference center.
I almost regret saying this, but even neo-nazis’ views are protected by the first amendment. At least no one takes them seriously.
I was just a smidged concerned about some odd sounds, something like seek isle, but I just figured it was a dolphin rescuer with a verbal tic.
-swastika: stolen form Buddhist, Hindu etc.
-”Aryan race”: stolen form the indo-persian (which includes persian jews since which is funny cause Esther Xerces are ayran would more ayran than the entire nazi reich)
-Autobahn (Highway) stolen form the pre third reich empire (a poplar nazi lie is hitler created it.
now the steal the american flag which is actually one of the nation which brought down their ideology. -.-
It sucks the nazis dragged the swastika through the mud like that. It’s such a cool symbol for peace, and the nazis didn’t even get theirs right!
Oh look, it’s the BNP
I’m sorry, this picture just makes me laugh. The amount of stupidity in the world is so staggering, my only response is to laugh.
Also, the “Happy Birthday” sign is a real kicker.
What really makes me laugh is how serious the guys in black shirts are.
But don’t you DARE smile!
It gives a whole new meaning to ‘mein kampf’.
I also wonder sometimes, in the life and times of Neo-Nazis, at what point do you sit back and think.. “You know… that Hitler guy WAS kind of on the ball….”
I wonder if it’s a slow process, or if a traumatic injury just knocks it into them.
*really* bad choice of phrase there
Don’t be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the Nazi party!
Most people don’t know that Hitler was an excellent dancer.
All I remember was how much he “meditated” each day.
12 times!!!! Rumor has it that he was very sore at the end of the day, but he just had to squeeze that last one in.
Or out in this case.
After 12 times, I would guess there really isn’t anything to squeeze out.
After squeezing 12 in, I’d bet he had a lot to squeeze out.
Otherwise, every time he took a step it would sound like he had water in his shoes.
Unfortunately he gave his best performances on the graves of those he had killed..
Will we party like it’s 1999?
With cake and cookies and the whole shebang.
The cake is a lie, and the cookies probably are as well.
Pie is the one, true baked good!
Yeah. In fact, all there is at the party is coffee. But actually really just milk. (Because coffee is dark, and comes from suspect foreign countries.)
*frowns disapprovingly at the suspect foreign countries*
Only as long as it’s American Pie, Squiggly!
*remembers American Pie & Jason Biggs*
Uh, forget I said anything.
*giggles*
Sie sagen, dass es Ihr Geburtstag ist
Es ist mein Geburtstag auch ja
Sie sagen, dass es Ihr Geburtstag ist
wir sind wird sich gut unterhalten
ich bin froh, dass es Ihr Geburtstag ist
Glücklicher Geburtstag zu Ihnen
(used an English to German translation site)
It’s close enough.
Who? Hitler has birthday? and why is the nazi holding a pink ribbon?
is it any surprise? carrying around the confederate flag is still considered honorable, depending on where you are.
It’s not surprising, but it sure as hell isn’t a shining example of human nobility and morals…
And just because you still want to secede like you did in a war you lost 120 years ago doesn’t make it okay.
Because the confederate flag doesn’t carry the meaning of racism in those areas. It is an idea of brotherhood, ancestry, and so on. It carried meaning before it was carried into war with racism as a major point, and after they lost their side was vilified and their character summarized to be racist separatists. that it what their flag came to represent to many, but there are still those that accept the meaning before it was used as a racist symbol.
Just like the swastika was a Buddhist symbol before hitler got his hands on it.
It is the flag of a band of treasonous rebels who attacked the United States of America and ignited a war that killed 3% of the population. They had the opportunity to resolve their issues by political means and they chose violence instead. Forget slavery; the fact remains that it was treason and those responsible should have been hung. No amount of after-the-fact justification can change that.
3%!!! What a random number. It’s a lot of people, but still it doesn’t really resonate in an age of catastrophic percentages.
According to Drew Gilpin Faust, the equivalent % of the modern US population would be 6 million dead. (This Republic of Suffering).
VG, if we took out 3% of our 300 million, wouldn’t that be more like 9 million? Or does the book say 2%?
I don’t recall the percentage from the book–and it is home while I’m now at work. Sorry!
The entirety of the southern states is not a band of treacherous rebels, just as all germans at the time were not nazis. my point was it has come to symbolize that to many, while to others it still holds it’s symbolic idea of brotherhood.
Also, just remember the colonies did the same, starting up a war and killing many people. the difference is one side won. the loser is always vilified, the winner writes the history books.
The rebellious colonists were also committing treason, and they did get hung for it when the British caught them. They rebelled not because they preferred violence but because they were DENIED a political solution — no representation in Parliament. The southern states HAD a political mechanism and chose not to use it.
The symbolic idea of brotherhood is revisionism. The Confederate flag is the flag of a self-proclaimed nation within the territory of the USA and the rebel army that attempted to defeat the USA.
Next you’ll be telling me that the Nazi flag represents a “symbolic idea of brotherhood” to certain people. Fine — but they’re wrong.
The colonists broke free from paying taxes. Which were MUCH less then the people across the pond were paying.
Some liberal you are. Your bleeding heart has turned to stone.
that is ignorant and bull. I have a better idea. we can just get rid of all the morons that subscribe to idiotic stereotypes to justify their anger and hate.
“Logic and thinking that isn’t hypocritical? NONSENSE! BLASPHEMY, I TELL YOU!”
No, that’s just bigotry. Liberal bigotry against all southerners is no more acceptable than conservative bigotry against all New Englanders. The point of the Civil War is that we are one nation and that concept is worth fighting for.
As a southerner I”m just going to say that we really don’t have any bad stereotypes about New Englander’s. If the topic ever comes up someone just asks, “They have more Catholics right?”
That’s about it.
the only northern negative stereotypes i recall from living in the south centered on new york…and they’re more new york stereotypes. people are busy, walk fast, are rude because they are busy. meh…
the only time i really ever remember talking about New England was in american history terms. you know, those guys that rebelled against their country as traitors and split off after a big war >.>
I’ve been to New York, those stereotypes are frighteningly true.
*whispers*
They don’t have sweet tea.
Bless their hearts.
*shakes head sadly*
haha
Okay everyone we laugh at you for that too.
If you DON’T like sweet tea something’s wrong with you.
Damn, EWAdams, you actually made me feel patriotic for a minute there. *sniffle* Well done.
Thank you, but to be candid I borrowed the concept that we are one nation from Barack Obama. It’s an idea that got lost around 1964 and REALLY got lost when Reagan handed the Republican party over to the evangelical Christians. They were the ones who somehow managed to redefine “American” to mean “conservative Christian.”
Do you read history, or just make it up to go along with how you feel that day?
And then the zombies invaded France, but fortunately Binical Kitteh was there to save the day, only he was foiled by Martians and timetravellers……..
Damnit. BIONICAL.
The south defined itself by the institution of slavery.
The ENTIRE nation defined itself that way pre-civil war.
That’s the point isn’t it?
The civil war came about because some states defined themselves as “slave states” while others did not.
It was a war about slavery, nothing else.
There was more to it than that. The north was industrialized, but the south kept selling their raw materials to Europe. And then there was states’ rights versus federalism. I was reading a biography of the Grimke sisters, and was surprised to learn that the southern states nearly seceded in the 1840′s (their brother Theo was involved in arguing against this secession).
We should have let the hicks leave… For good.
Ah, now this I agree with. More as a social experimentation than anything. What would the USA be like today if it had split into two countries? I think the results would be fascinating, and far more interesting than “we should have let the hicks leave.”
I always think about how people assume that the nation is still divided that way. Now it’s more about rural versus urban. The whole state -vs- state thing is really not true anymore. My point here is that I would love to see that experiment but just with those parameters.
Yeah, it’d be an awesome experiment, but it’d be pretty rough on both “countries.”
We could try it with just Texas, they seem eager to do so.
The USA would be far weaker without all the southern states and with a hostile neighbor competing with us for trade. The Texas oil boom would have gone to the CSA. We probably couldn’t have helped out in either world war.
Ultimately we probably would’ve gotten back together anyway. Maybe with a pre-nup this time.
No, it was not just about slavery and nothing else. It was about more than that. it was about economics, party politics, and other big issues, but slavery was a massive catalyst.
Actually the election of Lincoln was the biggest factor that started the war. Many southern politicians were paranoid that he would abolish slavery and pass other laws without consulting them. I don’t know why they thought any of this, but people aren’t always rational.
Slavery was a way to make it look good when they wrote the history books.
We can all agree TODAY that abolishing the act was a good thing, but during the time only a handful of people actually cared.
That depends on who is looking at it. Most people who fly the flag of St George (the single red cross on the white background, or as it is also known the flag of England) just think they are being patriotic, but having seen it flown by the BNP, by the National Front and by other such fun and frolicsome neo-nazi groups, I tend to associate it with nationalism bordering on jingoism, and consequently view anyone flying it with suspicion.
And I’m sure if you ask some people what they think they when they see the Confederate Flag, they won’t say Brotherhood, Ancestry and so on, they’ll say racism, burning crosses and slavery.
They’re doing that to all flags though. Well, not the British neo nazis, of course – I mean neo nazis of any country or region lay claim on the flag, overuse it and makes every normal person start regarding it with a slight hint of bitter taste in their mouth.
(grin) That’s a pity, cause I would love to see a British neo-nazi carrying a Jamaican Flag
FailteV says “Just like the swastika was a Buddhist symbol before hitler got his hands on it.” – I’m sure this would come as a surprise to the Finns, various Germanic tribes…
…”amongst other things” would have been a good addition to that phrase, yes.
Heh. And the Catholic Church, Paws. I *believe* it was also a symbol of luck for Catholics?
That’s the scary thing about the swastika, it shows up everywhere. The use of the swastika as a symbol for peace can be found in ancient cultures in Europe, India, China, some parts of Africa, some of the Pacific Island cultures, and even parts of South America. The scary part is that there’s evidence that most of these cultures generated it independently from one another, unaware it was in use in other places. O.o
I never knew that, that’s actually kind of interesting.
What I find funny is I have seen a few trucks here in Australia sporting a confedrate flag. I have to wonder if these people have any clue or do they think it looks ‘cool’ on the back of the truck?
I must admit, take away the meaning and it can be pretty cool looking.
Dukes of Hazzard FTW!!!!
I miss my Charger
Well you weren’t really supposed to jump the creek in it. That doesn’t really work.
Same could be said for three burning crosses on top of a hill. But I bet you won’t see many people putting them up this weekend…..
But that doesn’t really look that cool.
My name is Tyler….
So I’d think it was cool since it would naturally be a tribute to me!
OH MAN
HIs party is awesome.
They’re having so much fun they started burning lower case t’s in the front yard.
That makes no sense considering Tyler is a proper noun and should have capital letters, but man!! That’s still really cool.
Fire + (what have you) = cool! Unless that thing is alive… then it’s decidedly less so.
Plus aren’t Americans all about the meaning of a flag? Isn’t that why there are so many people opposed to flag burning – that it insults what the flag stands for?
Which does beg the question if they are willing to define one flag by a meaning (the stars and stripes) then why are they so willing to distort the meaning of another (the confederate flag)? Or is it that the ones who sport the Confed Flag just don’t want to see what others see in it?
Because in most southern people’s eyes the only distortion of the Confederate flag’s meaning is that it is about racism. They are going to fly it because they don’t think it means that at all. I don’t agree with it simply because so many people DO have a problem with it.
You might be surprised how many people pay good money to get 馬鹿tattooed on them because they think it looks cool.
And what they don’t realize is, it actually means, “I’m a crotchwaffle and the tattooist thinks I’m a twit”
I didn’t know you could translate crotchwaffle into them pretty pictures.
crotch waffle = 叉のワッフル
twir = 嘲り
Of course, arimareiji’s 馬鹿 is just as apt.
Almost went with 外人の馬鹿, but figured 馬鹿 would suffice. ^_^
*blinks*
Huh?
*blinks* what precisely DOES 馬鹿 mean? And what is a crotchwaffle?
Try pasting 馬鹿 and 外人 into a translator, and try a googlesearch for crotchwaffle. Prolly at urban dictionary.
dang, twir = twit
Thanks.. Eddie. Really. Thanks.
I have noticed a renewed interest in Hitler lately, so strange isn’t it? I keep wondering why that is?
Because some of us deem it necessary to argue ad nauseum and use Reductio Ad Hitlerum logic.
At least for PK – captions tend to be made from whatever pictures have recently been uploaded. A week or so ago it was 60 years since Germany invaded Poland, which might have caused an increase in Hitler-pics?
Because it’s a proven fact that if you slap a swastika on anything, it sells, it attracts attention and stirs up emotions.
Hahaha typical america
yep, They hate Hitler(with all rights), but they continue to celebrate U.S. companies and people that helped and founded him. Strange right?
WHARRGARBL
With extra GARBL
And a healthy dose of WHARR on top..
And a few sprinkles of ARRG.
dressed as a pirate..
in bed…
with a peni…nsula.
Not sure how that’s gonna work.
I see what you did there.
I like to pay homage to the masters.
Plus haven’t we been celebrating 40 years since the moon landing? Which was, if I am remembering properly, an endeavour almost entirely founded on the work of scientists who escaped punishment at Nuremberg because the US government found them work?
Yup, at the end of WWII when the cold war started, both the Americans and the Russians pitted their German scientists against each other! Isn’t politi-logic fun?!
Hitler rullzzz… totally. If Hitler would be alive today we wouldn’t have any Israel vs the Entire God Damn Muslim World kind of conflict.
Damn Right Hail Hitler … fck the jew
It’s HEIL Hitler, you moron. Jesus.
Yeah, WTF? The idiot can’t even support a dick sniffer like Hitler right. Infinite fail!!!!
If Hitler was alive today he’d be 120 years old. So quite honestly he would probably be dead.
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II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS
8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan’s Savage Military
9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey’s Genocidal Purges
11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing
13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito’s Slaughterhouse
I think the reason people consider Hitler more evil (if you can actually have gradations of evil, and not just agree that anyone who can willingly murder several million people is pretty much as bad as someone else who can willingly murder several million people) than the communist state is that he was in power for what? 12 years? (1933 to 1945) and that the majority of those he had killed were killed in a VERY short period (1940 onwards? History is not my strong point), where as the communist state was around a lot, lot longer.
But, as I said, I really do find the ideas of gradations of evil to be somewhat pointless and stupid. The idea that Hilter is somehow less bad because he didn’t kill as many people as someone else…. I’d say that’s how you end up with people celebrating his birthday.
Hitler systematized and industrialized genocide, as opposed to the more random and haphazard way it’s usually carried out. Even if his numbers are lower than Stalin’s, he’s uniquely creepy for that reason alone.
Well, you know Germans. They love efficiency.
Aren’t you NO_MO’s alter ego?
We should celebrate that he’s DEAD, but mourn that he lived 20 years too long.
But apparently his head is still alive!!
Hitler’s birthday is 4/20 y’know.
Does anyone else find the wallpaper/tile background hilarious in this photo??
Also, what kind of event hall would willingly LET these nutjobs hold a Hitler Shindig at their place?? Or perhaps this is just someone’s horribly tacky basement….
lawl anyone?
Youtube: Hitler wants to go to disney.
TAKSU LAWLED
*stealth wangs*
Completely and utterly o/t but welcome back dude
; some of us (present company included) have been missing you!
*hugs* Thanks. May the wang be with you.
I hate Illinois Nazis..
and wherever these guys are from… I hate theirs, too..
Blues Brothers reference FTW?
FINALLY! Someone takes a brave stand against Nazism!
I wonder if they find the Obama with Hitler mustache posters offensive
for a completely different reason.
What if ur celebrating its death?
Or his painting?
Wow. I haveth no idea was to say.
Happy birthday Hitler, hope it’s a good one
Good lord it’s amazing how uninformed people are these days, which I can scarcely believe I’m saying considering I’m only 16. Alright, the first person who can figure out what a man named Joseph Goebbels has to do with my above claim without using Wikipedia or Google earns a serious history cookie.
I’m not sure exactly what I’m supposed to be relating to Goebbels, but he was Hitler’s head of propoganda, and arguably invented the dicipline.
Volkswagen. Particularly the [old-school] VW Beetle.
can we celebrate his death-day?
He was actually a pretty good artist, so does that count?
My junior prom was on hitlers birthday.Only reason why I remember the damn date. :/
What a waste of 4/20.
This is still my favourite pic on PunditKitchen.
Oh, also, I’m charro and I approve these timely messages.