A traditional marriage is between a man, a woman and a mistress.
(Mark Sanford)
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And a good dog.
and faster horses, younger women, older whiskey…
Tom T Hall FTW!
Link for the soup man.
Hey! You don’t have to marry the mistress! Thats the whole point! Geez!
heh
Benito? Is that you?
I was gonna make a comment about how it’s unfair how the media slants it so that the bill Clintons of the world can get reelected before their affair story hits the mainstream media, but poor republicans get stuck on a pike and waved around in the air faster than you can say ‘monica’.
But i decided not to.
As if the media has never been unfair to Democrats? (*cough*FOX*cough*Althoug I suppose they’re worse to cows^^)
By the way, I like that screen name…
Thx.
this can only be decided in…
…THUNDERDOME!!!!!
I gets to be Tina Turner!
We don’t need another hero.
But can’t we just get beyond Thunderdome?
*groan*
*bows*
Don’t get mad, Max will be here soon.
*bursts through the wall in a BAD-ASS Armored SUV*
You called!?!?!
-carries rando on his back Master/Blaster style-
Who run Barter Town?
Couldn’t tell you.
*takes a sip of a Gibson martini*
complaining about how unfair it is that the republicans having affairs is being blasted across the media while mentioning blil clinton in the same breath… you were trying for ironic? sarcasm?
besides, i think it’s been firmly established that if you’re on a morality or family values committee or whatever they’re called then go and do this, you’re more than fair game (you’re bonus points!)
And with those awful emails and “soulmate” confessions to the media, Sanford is the super-deluxe with a cherry on top of bonus points!
Oh, those were painfully hurl-worthy.
I knew better than to eat before exposing myself to that media coverage.
I think we can all agree, no matter what side you’re on, that Sanford is one of the douchiest douches of the decade (I won’t go beyond that since, well, there are some really big douchebags out there).
sanford vs joe wilson vs kanye west vs spencer pratt vs jon gosselin… who would win the “douchest douche who ever douched” award?
As long as all participants are fed to lions, I think everyone is a winner.
as Jane say’s that’s the problem with Christians, you can’t live with them, you can’t feed them to the lions anymore.
Yeah, that’s pretty much, wha, HEY!!
Hey uh Rando… you wanna see my new littler of “kittens?”
Litter* Back extra lower case L! Back!
Well, Jane has a certain way to put things that makes you want to say, hmmmmm.
Cute kitty…cute…AH FVCK HE BIT MY HAND OFF!! WTF DUDE?!
Spencer Pratt, hands down. And if they’re going to be fed to lions make sure they get Heidi in there too.
i wouldn’t want the lions to get sick on the silicone… can we dismember her and remove certain parts first?
absoforkinglutely.
ooh this sounds like fun! i had a feeling it’d be a good day to bring the hatchet to work!
Hatchet? I never settle for a hatchet. Battle axe all the way!
There’s just too many! The levels of douchieness just keep going up. I can’t decide. I’m with Rando in the lion-feeding suggestion though.
Yeah…I can’t BELIEVE Clinton got away with that whole Lewinsky thing without being IMPEACHED!
Oh…wait…
wait clinton got oral loven from someone besides hilary( i cant imagin her even doing that…but now YOU are ahahhahahah) bitter troll never heard about any of that in the media
AAAAAGGGGHHHH MIND BLEACH MIND BLEACH!!!
Bleach? No. That requires high explosives to remove that idea. The thought of THAT voice and face…… *vomits*
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!!111elebenty1!
You KNOW those pants suits just toot your cookies. Oh Baby, she’s SOOOO HOT….
I assume from the various ladies who have ‘enjoyed’ Clinton’s attentions, that he would agree with Sir Mixalot. He likes big butts.
But he can lie.
He did not have sexual relations with your statement.
One of the few things or people he hasn’t had sex with.
You guys have to put yourselves in Bills position. Think about it. You’re (at that time) one of the most powerful men in the world. You’re relatively young, good looking, and have a great sense of humor to boot. Power is an aphrodisiac to women, and they are flinging themselves at you on a daily basis. Suggestive comments, come-hither glances and “accidentally” brushing up against you at opportune moments. What man among you (and don’t forget, you’re married to Hilliary) wouldn’t succumb?
I need a shower. BRB.
Ivan, do you need a cold shower, or a shame shower where you’re sitting fully clothed under the water, rocking back and forth while holding your knees to your chest screaming “I FEEL SO DIRTY!!!!!!!!” ?
I’m trying to figure out which part he needs a shower for more. Defending Clinton’s actions or actually talking about Bill getting some.
The “shame/dirty” one. *whimper*
You know, we had been hearing about this kind of thing from Clinton as far back as his first campaign, and we still elected him hands down. Then people were actually SHOCKED by the Lewinsky scandal? WTF?
gennifer flowers… right? she was first. then the ugly chick who ended up doing “celebrity boxing” – paula someone, right?
(i was a youngun then, so i don’t know all the details)
Now, shortright, that depends on what your definition of “first” is.
i was thinking of first in terms of “first one he borked while in the white house”. hillary isn’t even on the list of people he borked in the white house… they had sex exactly once (accidentally) when they were drunk, it resulted in chelsea.
“Oops, you’re not the hot chick I was trying to pick up, Hill.”
“Neither are you, Bill. Damn.”
*snort*
Are you implying Bill Clinton and Robert Bork had something going on?
maybe??
what an intriguiging turn of events!
look we all knew bill was going to stick his willie in someone, and not hilary ( mental image here)
no one was shocked, it was just a matter of time.
neither was it a shock when we started catching the guys demanding him to resign turned out to be doing the same thing…not shocked…amused.
Don’t get me wrong, he deserves everything he gets, but so does everyone else who does the same thing, duh…
Actually you did — and you’re wrong! The “media” hammered Bill Clinton and the Repubic’s jumped on it, additionally, the Repubics climb up on the MORAL highground and proclaim themselves SAINTS AGAINST the Democratic sinners, so when they demonstrate that they are in fact HUMAN, we like to remind them of that simple fact.
Cite, please.
cite what? that Repubic’s proclaim themselves as the Party of God, cast moral judgement on all undesirables and then go out and screw whomever they want then claim that other’s destroy the “sacred marriage” give me a break — cite yourself.
Yes, that. But of course you can’t…
And I’mma totally let you finish, but just so you know, “Democraps” is the best fifth-grade misspelling of a political party name ever, yo.
Wait…you need a cite to believe that the Republicans think they are the party of “Family Values”? Really? Just how far do you have your head stuck up your ass? I’ll need the address of the cave you’ve been living in to forward that information to you.
Yeah, since when do we need to cite common knowledge? The sky is blue? I’m gonna need a cite for that.
“SAINTS”, “Democratic sinners”, “Party of God”, “moral judgement” [sic] — that’s what I want him to back up. Is that distinction too subtle for you, or are you simply having too much fun throwing around hackneyed stereotypes?
Hmmm…nothing where the Republicans call themselves the party of God, naturally. That would be stupid to outright SAY. But their religious connection is made pretty clear on the GOP’s website:
The public display of the Ten Commandments does not violate the U.S. Constitution and accurately reflects the Judeo-Christian heritage of our country. We support the right of students to engage in student-initiated, student-led prayer in public schools, athletic events, and graduation ceremonies, when done in conformity with constitutional standards.
So. The Republicans support public religious displays, and pushes the “Judeo-Christian heritage.” Sounds kinda like an alignment with Christianity to me.
Oh, and I know you’ll call it crap, because you’re you, but I have a link to an article too.
So today’s a condescendingly lecturing sort of day, not a discussing day? Too bad.
Regardless, that quote reads more to me like a position statement on school prayer than it does an endorsement of religion. (I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t apply to Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, or Hindu prayer, meditation, or Druid tree worship, for that matter.)
And I’d suggest there are perhaps more relevant sources than a 2006 op-ed by a guy pimping his book.
A discussing day? Is that a argue in circles and non sequitirs until you’re cornered then break out the arrogant insults kind of day? Because that’s what a discussing day usually means with you. And I’m not wasting a bunch of time on research for fvcking PK. Especially not on something that is pretty much common knowledge.
Man-monthlies it is, then. See you in a few days.
Yeeeeaaaah, you just proved my point for me, arrogant insult.
But of course I won’t believe you, because I’m me, right? What a douche. (No surprises there.)
Ummm… We were founded on Christian values. And, the constitution does not say that you can’t display the Ten Commandments. It says (in laymen’s terms) that the government will not establish a religion and, more importantly, prosecute people for being that religion. How is prayer in school doing either of those?
So, because nobody puts up (and, I’m not sure of the reason) other religious representations, Christians get punished. Now, I do think that you will have some people way to the right come out and protest if you put the Koran up somewhere, but so what? That should be fine. In my opinion, that’s more of freedom of speech than not establishing a religion.
OMG don’t start this again. You’re going in a totally different direction. I didn’t say the Republicans support establishing a national religion. A couple sentences before what I quoted it says they support the constitutional right of freedom of religion (at least officially). What I said is they like to associate themselves strongly with Christianity and more fundamentalist Christian values. If I’m wrong, prove it. I’ve cited stuff, you guys didn’t like it. Your turn. Show me that Republicans don’t believe all that.
I won’t deny it. Now, read the 10 commandments and tell me what about those you have a problem with. How is believing in a God that loves you no matter what such a bad thing?
And, “at least officially”? So, you’re not saying they’re trying to establish a religion, but you’re implying that they have a hidden agenda (though you won’t say what it is) by trying to express their freedom of speech.
And, finally, how does displaying the Ten Commandments, or even the Koran, against the constitution? Yes, it will have a Christian slant because around 77% of America is Christian. I don’t know anything about the Koran, so I can’t defend it. I do know some about the Bible, so I can honestly say that I do believe that the Ten Commandments (and yes, I know there’s more to the Bible than that) are pretty good rules to live by.
So you oppose the Army and any use of the Army by the government.
Dear (I don’t care to type out your name so I’ll just give you one) Douchenozzle,
It would seem that you are an ignorant moron with no concept of what the constitution means or how to argue. The “Why would you hate that which “preaches love” unless you’re evil” argument is old and completely moronic. I’m an atheist and I’ve met religious individuals more morally (or ethically) bankrupt than myself. The founding fathers did NOT want a christian nation, and there is pretty convincing evidence that this was their position. Sure, you’re not advocating a religion in your statements, but you aren’t too concerned about pushing a belief in God on others. So shut up until you understand reason.
Prepare for…EMO ATTACK!
Emos are too mopey to do anything but sit around listening to crappy music. A squirrel attack would be more dangerous.
So No1askedme, did you actually get through Kindergarten, or does the entire reading thing just fail you? Where did I say that Christians are great and everyone else is evil? Absolutely nowhere. What I said is that there’s nothing wrong with Christian values. If I had been taught the Koran all of my life, I would have talked about Muslim values. Just because I know about Christian values, so that’s what I talk about. Furthermore, I did not say that the country was founded as a Christian nation. I said it was founded on Christian values, and it was. Try reading a few of the documents. You’ll see God mentioned in most of them. And, I’m not pushing my beliefs on anyone. Where have I said that you must be a Christian or you’re going to burn in a lake of fire? Again, nowhere. I said that People should be able to display religious symbols if they wish. Or, none if you’re an atheist.
Finally, I will agree that there are radicals out there that give Christians a bad name. Just as there are radical Muslims, atheists, etc. That doesn’t mean the religion, nor what is taught in their respective books is evil, bad, or is going to corrupt anyone.
So, since you didn’t answer my question, I’ll ask again. You must believe that the US Government should not use or maintain an Army since you believe in the 10 Commandments.
I’m also sick to death of the claims that our nation was founded on christianity. It’s not true. In fact the truth is quite the opposite.
This cite explains it better than I can, and with less name calling, which is what this subject makes me want to do.
{http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/04/opinion/main671823.shtml}
i haven’t taken the time to read the article yet, but here’s a quote that is just too good not to share:
“I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature.” Thomas Jefferson
from what i understand, most of the founding fathers were deists and agnostics (not the same as atheism). also, the adams (john & john quincy) were unitarians.
i love how so many people claim this country was created by christians and based in christianity, yet most of the founders were freemasons, which has been railed against as being antichristian, devilworshiping, etc since it’s inception in the early/mid 1700′s
You have zero credibility, dude.
And you are… ?
A well-liked regular with far more credibility than you have here.
Zing!
Snap!
That confused me for a second… the ‘actually you did’ part. Apparently I didn’t make it obvious enough that it was a joke, but oh well.
Mark deserves everything he’s getting, no doubt.
My point is the spin the media puts on it is just not right.
example:
‘self-righteous republican betrays voters in sex scandal!’
versus
‘oh look, a democrat is sleeping around, who knew? *yawn*’
It’s a double standard.
It wasn’t like that with Clinton. Not at the time. I distinctly remember hearing about what a massive embarrassment he was to our country and that he completely destroyed family values and what kind of an example is he setting? I even bought into it a little, feeling like the massive amount of scandal being piled onto him just tarnished his reputation. I don’t think that way anymore. I miss Bill. I’d be for repealing term limits for another 4 years of him, and as much as I like Obama, I’d drop him on his ass to get Clinton back in there.
I wouldn’t. Don’t get me wrong, I think that Bill was great for the time — his only problem was that he didn’t tell the repubics to pound sand. But his time is gone and frankly, I like what the current President is doing.
I’m still confused why screwing around is considered an impeachment worthy offense. If that’s the case, can we please get rid of some other politicians who are “an embarassment to our country”? And from what I can recall about the time (granted I was 13 and didn’t give a hoot about politics) most other countries were wondering what all the stink was about anyway.
It’s not an impeachment worthy offense. It was the whole perjury thing that really got Slippery Bill in a pickle.
LOL, I thought Slippery Bill WAS the pickle!
At the time, I remember some folks were discussing it, and asked my opinion. I still believe what I said at that time; “I don’t give a damn what he does with his penis. That’s Hilliary’s problem, and none of our business. He’s a very good President.”
Again, it wasn’t that he had sex with Monica. It’s the fact that he lied to everyone. I was going to say in a court of law, which he did, but just the fact that our “fearless” leader lied to us without any remorse. And, I still don’t think he has remorse for both lying to the people that put their trust in him nor disregarding his vows. And yeah, he was “impeached” in words only. So, he got disbarred. Does anyone really think he was ever going to practice law again? Seriously?
ok, i admit it’s bad to lie, but god damn, how many world leaders have affairs? i mean, just look at the senate lately. the time and money wasted proving he lied in court **about an affair** was what was rediculous. claiming that it’s only about him lying in court is just rationalizing the stupidity of the whole thing.
‘sides, “fearless” isn’t really a word you hear often when describing most presidents. and moreso.. what man isn’t afraid of his wife? i mean – er.. totally in love with his wife! yeaah… *crawls into a fridge to disappear for a while*
Especially when it’s Hillary.
I’m just clearing up that he wasn’t impeached for having an affair. And, I agree that the entire thing was stupid. I didn’t like him for other reasons, but if he’d have said that his personal business was his business, it would have been fine. That is, unless he was compromising our security, which he definitely was not. It’s just irritating when people get up in arms that he was impeached for having an affair, when that was not the case.
And, personally, I never have understood cheating on your wife. If you don’t like her that much, get a divorce. Not that I’m out selling divorce, but it’s pretty much the lesser of the two evils (and that’s just a phrase, no need in flaming it).
Actually, that goes back to my “I don’t give a damn what he does with his penis” line. He shouldn’t have HAD to lie about it. He should have never been ASKED about it. WHO CARES that he got a BJ? Oh yeah, that’s right, the “Moral Majority” Republicans who think it’s ok to preach morality, just not practice it. Got it.
“We preach traditional family values! Or being a sleaze and hopefully not getting caught. Whatever works!”
Who is it that has the peel away screen protectors? I think I’m going to need one if this thread goes on much longer.
*digs Taco Bell napkins out of desk drawer and tries to get Dr. Pepper off of screen before the boss walks in*
Yeah, you’re right. To hell with morality. Everyone should do whatever feels good to them and damn the consequences!
I will agree that if you’re going to take a stand like he did, then you should be held to a higher standard. Just like Barney Franks, R.C. Soles, and Tom Daschle just to name a few.
Recently, a self-identified conservative complained to me about the Democratic governor of New York, David Paterson. He said that not only is Paterson incompetent, he is also legally blind and goes to swinger parties with his wife.
I said: “I don’t know what impresses me more, the fact that he’s a blind governor or the fact that he’s a blind swinger!”
Because, Ivan, the “Im-moral Majority” thinks that S-E-X is dirty and should only be sanctioned for procreation and only between a married man/woman couples. Well, that’s how the “Majority” wants us to live, they’re exempt from the rules cause they made the rules.
IMHO, sex is dirty…but only if you do it right.
I think Ivan was going off on all of the relationship/family values beliefs that the right have all at once. I thought it was a good little rant. Well played, Ivan.
That’s not everyone on the right’s thought though. The thing is, when the left brings something up, they’re going to have opposition from the right. It doesn’t matter what it is. And, the same goes for when the right brings something up. Do I think that everyone on the left is a baby killing, bible trashing homosexual? No. In my opinion, he’s showing how short sited and closed minded he really is.
Yeah. sure you did — even though you posted no such link, nor were we ever “talking” (by which I mean you, apparently in another one of your crybaby moods, condescending down to me) about the subject.
But other than that, yeah, we totally did.
Oh, I have to post the link? Dude, you really thought I made that all up? Well, okay. It’s in the name. And crybaby mood? Srsly? I refute you and call me a crybaby? And you have the nerve to call ME condescending?
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you refuted me — I mostly stopped reading after the “of course you won’t read this, blah blah blah” bad comic book supervillain rant.
I AM in a monogamous relationship, and I don’t cheat on her. But I DON’T try to tell others how to live their lives either. And I’m sick of arguing with idiots. So thinking backwards, you can suck it.
@Ivan, thank you for giving me the perfect description of my former marriage: i was in a monogamous marriage, but my husband wasn’t
Bad comic book villain rant! LMAO! I love it. That was actually pretty clever. Oh, you sly dog! You caught me monologuing!
He never lied during the investigation, or even under oath I believe. I know he lied at some point, but it wasn’t during the investigation of the incident, it was some other thing the government was dealing with. Besides, he’s a politician, they lie, it’s what they do!
WTF?! nesting fail, this goes in the stack before this one, the one about Clinton.
Nice argument for him. All politicians lie, so it’s okay… So, we should not hold them accountable?
Also, he did lie under oath. Where in the world do you get your “facts?” It’s common knowledge, but so I’m not just throwing out an argument, here’s a link to CNN. Or, are they not credible enough for you?
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/multimedia/timeline/9809/starr.report/grounds/g1.htm
Ditto, Rando. Yeah, Clinton was put through the grinder. I remember but at least he never claimed to be morally superior. That’s the difference. Most Dems don’t claim to be anything other than human so when they slip up it’s not quite so hypocritical. There’s no direction to go when you set yourself up on a pedestal but down.
it’s a double standard established by the repubics — they are the one’s who claim the moral highground, they are the ones who cast judgement on others while casting themselves as the ultimate in morality. If one wishes to climb up on the moral highground, one needs to did a deep foxhole with 18 inches of overhead cover. or as my Catholic mother used to say, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones — the Repubics live in glass castles.
um.. not really a double standard if one side does it more and therefore gets more airtime for doing it more. i mean, edwards is getting his tail burnt over his last affair. but it’s not like he was picking up dudes in an airport bathroom…
You can not deny the media gives the right a harder time over their affairs than it does the left.
Once again, because they are the ones who go around promoting “traditional family values.” The hypocrisy is the issue more than the affair.
Who are the “they”? The left constantly associates the right as being religious zealots because of the right wing nuts out there. Is it fair to say the left is a bunch of terroists because the president is supported by the leaders of Iran, Cuba, Venezulla, Lybia?
If the right stands for “traditional family values”, what does the left stand for”? I am curious to see what type of answers I get to this question. I know what the right side would say, I would like to see what the left leaning folks think is the defining issue or stance that defines them.
Selective quoting. I like it. It promotes parental responsibility, which is a traditional family value but it’s a value that most ethical people share. The Democratic Party does not discriminate against families for not being the traditional man/woman married couple. That was my point that you skipped over.
As for the baby killers comment, I don’t get it.
“The Democratic Party does not discriminate against families for not being the traditional man/woman married couple”
Neither does most of the right wing. It has been my experience that most on the right are fine with civil unions for benefits etc. They just don’t want the definition of marrige changed.
As for selective quoting, I did not want to bore everyone with a long post.
I also did not see you answer my question on what you think the defining thing or issue that represents the Left. I know my question above looked like I was looking for the left stance on traditional family values and was confusing. Not unlike this post.
The Democratic Party is committed to keeping our nation safe and expanding opportunity for every American. That commitment is reflected in an agenda that emphasizes the strong economic growth, affordable health care for all Americans, retirement security, open, honest and accountable government, and securing our nation while protecting our civil rights and liberties
The right doesn’t stand for traditional family values, like paying a living wage so one can support a family, ensuring all families have reasonable health care that doesn’t take 30% of their miserly wages when they are healthy or bankrupt them or drop them when they are sick — no, their “traditional family values” means everyone has to follow their religious beliefs based upon their religion whether they believe it or not.
Wow, Charlie, where do I even begin? First off, when have you ever been turned away from a hospital? And, what do you consider a living wage? Do you consider it something you earn, or is it something that you’re just entitled to? What I (I would say we, but Rando hates it when I do that) believe is that I have worked very hard to make it where I am. I do not believe that you deserve any of that. Also, I do not want to be forced to take a health care program that is inferior to mine so that you have something better because you can’t or won’t get something better. If this health care program is so great, why aren’t the politicians willing to go to it?
That’s because the right preaches “family values”. If you’re a hypocrite about these things you should get nailed harder for that hypocrisy.
But, the left can claim that the economy is great, and Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac are financially sound and in no danger months before they go under and need billions to be bailed out? How about Timmy Geithner, as the treasury secretary, not paying his taxes? But, you’re correct, the hypocrisy is only on the right.
I guess Barney Franks isn’t a hypocrite as much as a lying conniving idiot that has wasted too much of America’s tax dollars.
We’re talking about family values here. The hypocrisy from the right is pretty heavy on this subject. Try to stay on topic, please.
You’re deflecting a bit, aren’t you? Backed into a corner, and now you change the subject. *shakes head sadly*
Nope, as I’ve said before, I can multitask. And, still, you have no answers. Typical from the left.
And, what else is there to say that I haven’t? Yeah, he’s a cheating immoral idiot. He’s not my representative, and if he was, he wouldn’t get my vote anymore. But, when you try to act like the hypocrisy only happens on the right, or that the left is raked over the coals more than the right when their hypocrisy is made clear, I’m going to defend it. I saw, maybe, a week worth of coverage for Timmy Geithner for his tax evasion, and he had absolutely no good reason for it. And, he’s still our Secretary of Treasury. But, let’s sweep that under the rug. However, someone on the right has an affair, and you’re ready to hang him.
And, again, I’m not going to defend this guy, which is another major difference between the right and left. The right will rake their own across the coals if they do something like this. The left (as is shown with Bill Clinton) almost praises their party for being immoral.
Dude, are you serious? I think Clinton’s shenanigans are part of the reason Gore failed in 2000. The party was in disarray after Clinton’s scandals. It seems to me that the right judges their people not merely by the job they do, but what they do in their personal life as well. Democrats separate people’s professional and personal lives. If everyone who cheated on their spouse got fired from their job, then the unemployment rate would be like what, 30-40%?
As for Geithner, the tax thing is over, he’s paid up. It’s time to move on.
No, Gore failed because he’s an idiot. The only reason Clinton made it two terms is because he was good at giving a speech. Just like Obama. His entire platform was “Change” but nobody knew where he actually stood on anything. And, I would say you still really don’t.
Who said anything about firing someone for cheating on their wife? I love how you and Ivan both like to put words in my mouth. What I’m saying is that if you will lie to your wife, the one that you vowed to love and protect for the rest of your life, then you will have no problem, whatsoever, with lying to me. I do have a major problem with that if you’re in a position where I have to have full faith and trust in you, such as a representative.
And, I guess that just paying makes it all good. Money solves everything, right? I just don’t understand how you can have someone that is a tax cheat over our taxes. But, he said he’s sorry, so I have to drop it? So if this idiot Sanford says he’s sorry, does that mean you have to accept it and forget it? Also, does that make him worthy to tell you how you should live your life? Sorry, I’m just trying to follow your logic.
Careful now…you’re dangerously close to suggesting that the left’s selective memory is itself hypocritical, which contradicts both common knowledge and established forum bigotry. That kind of talk won’t be permitted.
Shaq is holding a panda. Your argument is invalid.
“And when was the last time you saw or heard the majority of the republicans “preaching” to you?”
Did I say “Republicans”? Did I? No! I said “the right”, which does not equal Republicans.
“That’s because the right preaches “family values”. If you’re a hypocrite about these things you should get nailed harder for that hypocrisy”
“Did I say “Republicans”? Did I? No! I said “the right”, which does not equal Republicans.”
If the Republicans are not “the right”, then where is the hypocrisy? I guess you are just spewing crap you either made up or talking points you heard from MSN.
“If the Republicans are not “the right”, then where is the hypocrisy? I guess you are just spewing crap you either made up or talking points you heard from MSN.”
Let’s rephrase it so even you can understand it: Not all Republicans are part of “the right”. The right is not comprised of only Republicans. Thus, when somebody refers to “the right” they are NOT automatically referring to Republicans. Logic – learn to love it.
I was grumpy yesturday and in a fighting mood. After reading most of what I posted it looked like I was just out to argue.
I will have to agree with you that not all Republicans are right. Look at the two senators from Maine.
“not all Republicans are right”
And so many of them are just plain wrong.
uhhh… you do remember that they tried to impeach Clinton, right? I’d say that’s more than a “*yawn*” response. And the media played no small part in getting people riled up, just as it does now. Maybe you’re just not old enough to remember?
They didn’t try to impeach him, they did impeach him.
The difference being, of course, that Republicans pretend to be all righteous and Christian and the True Champions of Family Values. Funny how that sort of thing trips you up when it’s discovered that you’re just another adulterer.
Here we go again. *headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk*…
^I loled.
At least make it funny, so the flame war is sort of worth it.
*hands rando a pillow, band aid, and one of those giant cans of Fosters *
*weak from pain*
pillow…beer…god bless you, wallFly.
*passes out*
…or his concubine(s)! (see: Old Testament/Tanakh)
but i think monogamy is better…
I wondered how long before a wingnut would try to twist this onto Bill Clinton.
Three posts.
Three friggin’s posts.
LOL!!!!
Takes a wing nut to know a wing nut.
LOL!1!!111!!!!
I have to ask (although I’ll probably regret it): is your name a Cambells’ Soup reference or a Crash Test Dummies reference?
Or the Chorus from that “I’ll melt with you” song from the 80s?
LOL, BTW love the new avatar.
Thank you, for the lol and the compliment! It took a long time to find the right pic, but I think it represents a little bit about me. (for the good or for the bad)
That’s why I’m still using the green-ness. Though in a pinch I could probably just use a solid black square.
What is your avatar pic?
Its a picture of the globe, and beneath it are peoples from all countries and cultures holding it up.
Are they holding it up in a “come and see the violence inherent in the system, help, help, I’m being repressed” kind of way or a “we are the world, we are the children” kind of way?
It looks almost like the Soccer World Cup trophy:
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OK… I thought it was some kind of squid. When you said it represented something about you, I was REALLY confused! Better now.
Am I allowed to compliment you on it? Or is it your official policy to get angry if I do. Ok, ok. Just teasing there feller.
Cup of coffee?
My official policy it to always accept compliments. It is also my official policy to consider the source.
Well, I figure I better be nice to you, before you take over the world? Will bluegrass be allowed in your rule?
How’s the coffee?
Oh yeah. Music of basically any kind will be encouraged at the discretion of the creators and the listeners. Coffee will still be there, but probably tasting the same, depending on which flavor you like.
I usually have a little coffee with my cream and sugar.
Soup is good food!
True dat.
Campbell’s Campbell’s Campbell’s.
For some reason I heard this in the badger badger badger voice.
AHhhhhhAhh SNaaaaaake! IT’S a SNAAAAAAAKE!
Mushroom mushroom….
Campbell’s Campbell’s Campbell’s Chicken NOODLE! Campbell’s Campbell’s Campbell’s Aahhahaahh Soouuuup! IT’S A SOOUUUUPP!!! Campbell’s Campbell’s Campbell’s Campbell’s….
I wasn’t singing. I was correcting the spelling. *makes a scowly face at diss*
I knew it didn’t look right.
However, I now want to see Isildo’s version of the BadgerBadger song used on a soup commercial.
Has BPA… and Gluten. Even the tomato soup has gluten! Which is why although I love soup, I have to make it by hand, or buy a different brand. o.O
From the years of being divorced and raising my boys, I am the crock pot master of soups and such. I make a chicken noodle soup that will make you drive to Sumter SC and slap the people at Campbels. I have a pork tenderloin in right now, going to make some BBQ.
a blind, deaf, quadriplegic person with no taste buds could probably manage to come up with a better chicken noodle soup than campbells. theirs just has a mass produced, over salted taste to it. and the chicken pieces and microscopic and the noodles are like slightly fat spaghetti cut into inch long segments. campbells faaaaaaaaaails at chicken noodle soup. other soups they do well. chicken noodle, fail fail fail.
Hey, drop a game hen in the crock with some stock, cut up onion. 6-8 hours later, the meat will fall off the bone. Pour stock in big pot, cut up carrot/celery. Bring to boil. Simmer 25 mins, adding black pepper to taste. No fancy spices. You can, but always seems better simple. Throw in some wide egg noodles, and 20 minutes later you are eating.
And I make my own garlic bread too. Use a press and fresh garlic. Real butter too.
Ok, now I’m hungry. And I have to go to bed too. Darn.
i’m particularly fond of the spinach, basil, tomato, cheese tortellini soup i made the other day. quite yummy, low calorie and super filling.
i also believe in using fresh garlic any time the chance presents itself. but then again, i could probably be the only person on the face of the planet that would put garlic in just about everything. if there were an iron chef where the secret ingredient were garlic, i’d hope for someone to attempt garlic ice cream. yup, i’m weird.
I’ve HAD Garlic Ice Cream! At the Gilroy (CA) Garlic Festival… It’s actually pretty good!
reeeeeeeally? i might have to look for a recipe online then. my kitchenaid has an ice cream attachment and i get the feeling it will be WAY easier to make it at home than trying to find it anywhere.
Just so you know about the chicken pieces in chicken noodle soup, the reason they’re so microscopic is because they have to be in order to be edible. They are pullet hens that have done their service and can’t lay anymore. Usually they’ve gone through at least one forced molt, and are kept thin for production purposes. It makes the meat VERY tough. It’s not their fault
And I love the mass-produced chicken noodle from Campbells. Sue me. I like salt
Heh. True dat. Gimme some Campbell’s chicken noodle soup. LOL
I can’t say I like a single thing in that soup. LOL
i was thinking along similar lines… but i like onions, mushrooms and chicken.
Seriously? Who doesn’t like carrots? THAT’S CRAZY!
That’s just what I was thinking. Of course, I’m the weirdo sitting here writting all of these various soup recipes down thinking “Man, I have to try that sometime in the near future!” I could live off of soup.
I just got this great cookbook called Clean Food, by Terry Walters. It’s divided by season, so you can make use of whatever fresh veggies are in season. Tons of yummy soup recipes, easy, tasty and good for you!
i’ll FB you my tortellini soup recipe. SUPER easy.
Please do, it sounds delicious!
sent to both you chicas.
it’s one of my favorite quick and easy fall meals. very filling, very fast, quite healthy.
Thank you TOS and SB! I’ll have to see if I can find that cookbook online.
Can’t wait to try it!
I pick carrots out of my food. They’re bleh.
You’re weird.
i feed them to my one dog… she loves carrots. cooked, raw, any preparation she loves them.
i like raw carrots, but cooked carrots are blech.
Buuuuutttt Clinntooooooonnnnnnn
Why are you bringing up Clinton’s butt?
My avatar is just the first picture I came across. (In reference to a thread up yonder, not you Ceefax.) (Just so’s you don’t get confused.)
So you’re not going to throw a polar bear at us?
Clinton’s butt in the air? Now THERE’S a place you can park your bicycle.
What’s the problem.
The right lurvs hypocrites.
*hits Sqwirk with a rolled up newspaper*
*hands Rando a lead pipe to insert INTO newspaper*
and the left never ever ever does that sorta thing…
ever…nope…never…
They use feathers?
And tar.
and the whole chicken.
You had me right up until “moral values.”
On the other hand, I guess it depends what you mean when you say “moral values.”
I was thinking it had something to do with the price of mushrooms, then I realized it wasn’t “morels” but “morals”….
Crimini, what a terrible pun!
That really pushes my buttons.
Well, I chant(erelle) do that again.
Well good, because I won’t put up with that shiitake.
Another pun thread… could you please just spore me?
We don’t have much more shroom in this thread for puns.
We’re all just fungi’s.
When my post stays the last one in a pun-run, I’m never sure if it was so awesome that no one can top it, so bad that it killed the run, or everyone just ran out of puns.
That happens to all my posts, not just the pun runs, I never get a reply, so I tell myself that I’m too bright for others to understand my posts.
I mean basic moral values, like, you know, be freakin’ nice to each other for a change. Help an old person cross the street. Work for what you get, don’t expect a handout, and damn sure don’t try to take it from me. Murder, theft and bigotry are wrong.
And most of all, If I have something, and you don’t, that’s ok. The government has no right to take it from me and give it to you. That’s morally wrong. If the government would stop taking so damn much from me, maybe I’d give to you willingly…
And I totally use “you” there as a placeholder. I don’t literally mean YOU. I probably didn’t have to say that, but you know…
I’m sorry – “be nice to each other” but “don’t expect a handout”.
So if a guy has lost his job, we should be nice to him by not giving him any handouts?
Yeah – that sounds exactly like what “being nice to each other” is all about……
They say that if you’re under 30 and not a liberal, you have no heart, and if you’re over 30 and still a liberal, you have no brain.
If you get to the end of what he said, he mentions charity. So you’re argument is invalid.
Actually, Shaq is holding a panda. Your argument is invalid.
There are lots of ways to be nice to each other that don’t involve handouts. You know that, and you are basically just trolling. On the off chance that you’re actually confused about that point. I’ll respond anyway.
What’s wrong with expecting someone to be responsible and not given everything for free?
FYI, I lost my job last September due to the economy. The company I was working for could no longer afford me. I was without a job for seven months. Not once did I look to be given something for free. I did odd jobs, and yes, I took unemployment, which is not a handout.
Unemployment tax (or insurance, whatever you want to call it) is payed by the employer for the duration of your employment, and thus, is deducted from what the employer is willing to pay you, because they have to consider their total cost in hiring you. So, in effect, you pay your own unemployment insurance.
However, I made ends meet without once expecting to be given something for nothing. I lost my house, had to move halfway across the country, and I’m in debt up to my ears now, and STILL I don’t feel like you, the government, or anyone else owes me a damn thing. I make my own way in the face of difficulty, and everyone else should too.
Now, that’s not to say that sometimes people don’t need a hand *up*, and I’m more than willing to provide that if I can. But any help you get to make it through tough times should be paid back in some way. It could be done through community service or though directly paying back the money you received, or whatever, but it shouldn’t be the “water under the bridge” system that it is today. The type of system that we have now just fosters the lackadaisical attitude we have among the welfare society today. Why should they work when they can get paid more money sitting at home scamming the system?
Hope that clears it up for you…
And before someone flames me for that, a lot, maybe even most, of the people on welfare legitimately need it. It has helped a lot of honest people out of tough spots. However, it can’t be argued that there is an appalling amount of fraud in the system, and it needs to be fixed.
The reason they don’t clean up the fraud is because investigating it generally costs more than the fraud itself. I’d rather keep a system in place that helps people even if it gets abused. It’s not like charity wouldn’t be abused as well.
You lost your house, had to move halfway across the country, and are in debt up to your ears…you call that making ends meet?! Your family must have been very upset about having to move halfway across the country and losing the house. Where on earth did you guys live? I’m assuming of course you have a family. If not, what you’re talking about would be a totally different ballgame. If I was on my own, I could totally see myself moving far away to look for new opportunities, and I likely wouldn’t even bother living in a house if I were single.
I don’t think xy is trolling at all. I think xy has a legitimate point. So, assuming you’re telling the truth, you didn’t take any handouts. Congratulations. You can’t expect everyone to have the same experience as you.
I have a wife, no kids. I lived in Culpeper VA. I couldn’t find a job in the area, but I finally managed to snag an offer in a different state and had to move. I didn’t move and then find a job. And yeah, I call keeping food on the table and managing to keep my vehicle making ends meet. I’m in debt from the credit cards I couldn’t manage to pay during the 7 months of unemployment.
About the fraud, even if your assertion is true, you don’t investigate it to keep it out of a flawed system, you fix the system.
As far as xy’s point, I say he’s trolling because he’s intentionally (I believe) twisted my words in a seriously misguided attempt to invalidate my point, as I attempted to point out in the post above.
Happy trails!
Okay, but can you see how different it would be for a family to have to do all that? We had a troll on here not too long ago who thought it was perfectly reasonable to uproot their family’s entire lives just to avoid getting help from someone. Life is full of bad luck. I’ve been fortunate for the most that when things have gotten rough, a family member could help out in some way. That’s not the case for everyone of course. I don’t see why any American should have to suffer like that.
At any rate, none of this really matters, the gist of my original post was that all politicians suck, and the media sucks even worse. Judging by the lack of comment on that position, I’ll assume that most of you agree, and that’s what I wanted to know!
Damn straight, Villany! (Glad you were able to find another job; it’s been really tough out there for a lot of good people!)
Oh, definitely, that’s true. We can all agree on that.
LOL, you have to love someone who agrees with an argument but then rejects it out of hand because it uses a “code word”.
That’s why the caveat.
Oh how I’ve missed you!
You seem to have incorrectly assumed that I was talking to you. Or are you really have that little to do?
err, make that “do you really…”
Unless it was a total nesting fail, weren’t you talking about her?
Yes, but she seems to have interpreted it as an invitation, which it wasn’t.
*has a sad*
After all the good times we’ve had together?
WTF, you’re talking ABOUT her, but you’re annoyed that she responded? How dense are you?
U 235?
Denser.
But you have to admire the passion. Really, you do.
Absolutely. If anything, I’m disappointed that he’s not gunning for me this time. *sniffle*
That being said, he’s actually been pretty cool overall the few times I’ve seen him lately, so I have to give him that. Today, not so much.
Do you think maybe some of us do that just to get the mojo flowing around here? *ahem*
ha! “U 235″ – that made me laugh
thanks, justacarolinian, you made the geek in me happy
No, just annoyed that she’s apparently going to be following me around for a little while. If I wanted piss on the floor and drool on my leg, I’d get a puppy.
You started it, dude. You made a smartass comment about her, now you’re upset she’s talking to you. You brought it on yourself, dude.
He can’t help it, he’s got a schoolboy crush
I think it’s cute!
He said a post I wrote to him makes it a condescending lecture sort of day. Which means it’s an Anything-Dhoti-Posts kind of day.
A day of stalking and peabrained insults. Oh noes, the wrath of Rando!
Are you kidding? You don’t have my wrath. Hell, you’re one of the most fun people here!
Thanks for proving my point.
Some people pay money for that.
ROFL
You know if was going to go to the trouble, I think I’d piss on your leg and drool on the floor.
Win.
why you gotta knock puppies, huh?
Now, you’re just being nasty. Of course she’s gonna reply. It’s a comments section. Welcome to the interwebs.
You seem to have incorrectly assumed that I give a crap whether you were talking to me or not. Or are you really that egocentric?
Obviously. You must be just a delight on the subway.
We don’t have subways here.
You just can’t resist engaging with me, can you? Admit it, you find me charming. I can hardly fault you, I am very charming after all.
Hey, this is almost as good as VNV and I. *starts campfire* Smores anyone?
Ooooh, I’ll have one plz. If only because I so love watching you and VNV have epic flame wars.
Yes… absolutely charming…
*snaps out of his trance*
Sorry… that happens when SB wears the booty shorts..
The last time I wore booty shorts I was dressed up as Richard Simmons
But were you wearing the boots with spiked heels??
No, Eds. Richard Simmons is not known for wearing boots with spiked heels. He’s known for wearing whiter-than-white trainers with big, leg-warmer style white socks and that’s what I was rocking. Along with the requisite spray tan, and fro.
i saw the pics… that was AWESOME. lol
Thanks
It was great night, I did a ton of squats, and all while holding beer!
It’s true. That is traditional.
I’m not about to criticize a relationship where “getting a little on the side” is a consensual decision by the people in the relationship. If everyone is cool with it, then it’s cool in my book. That isn’t the case here, or in many marriages. When lies and betrayal are the basis for that “little on the side,” then it stops being cool and starts being sleazy. If you’re in a monogamous relationship, either stay monogamous or get out.
Sleazy yes, grounds for a divorce, sure, but hardly an offence worth losing your job over. The hypocrisy is a little harder to justify but that then runs into the question about why politicians are supposedly moral guardians.
the sleazy affair shouldn’t cost him his job, but leaving the country and making his staff lie about where he was because they didn’t even know — that’s gross dereliction of duty. kind of like quitting half way through your term because you don’t think you can get re-elected, or because you don’t want to do the job you asked for any more
Zing!
Oh, and Win, too!
Nice rant!
See! Even in Australia we have losers.. it’s not just the States.
BTW, not you, but your mention of Kevin Rudd. That guy is a twat!
He sure is. I wonder if the Germans have worked out what programmatic specificity is yet
Lol. Funny pic.
Hey check out dPalz.com
It has great tips on how to make money at home or online. It’s created by a 14-yr-old.
Begone Troll! Returneth ye to the AOL posts!
I hate to say this, but I agree completely.
Thou shalt not spam on PK!!!
*chases dPalz with her mighty war hammer*
sending out the flying monkeys to back you up (just in case you might need it)
*Does best Gandalf voice but comes up with Charlton Heston impression instead*
YOU SHALL NOT SPAM!!
I’m with you on that one.
*takes long drag then falls into coughing fit*
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
That reminds me of a funny little film where a woman explains what a biblical marriage actually is in the bible (like; between a sister and brother, between a man and 200 women, between a raped girl and her rapist, etc).
Have a look, its quite hilarious and gives a whole new view when listening to people who banter on about marriage and the bible, or ‘traditional marriage’; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
The french found a new reason to scorn the US with that Polanski affair, it’s all over the place in french news.
Yeah, because god forbid that the US try to arrest an admitted paedophile. What were they thinking?
It’s absolutely stunning how everyone’s defending Polanski. If he weren’t a known director, everybody would find it normal that he’d be extradited.
If he wasn’t who he was, he would’ve done his time years ago and all this would have been over with.
Either because you’d have managed to keep him, or the next place he’d turned up would have deported him. “She was willing” is not a defence against statutory rape!
Especially not with a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD! *ahem* Sorry for yelling. But, damn, it’s not like she was seventeen and he thought she was eighteen or something. She was a kid.
Agreed. Word’s out that she withdrew her lawsuit, based on a money transaction of which no amount is known.
She’s also publicly said that she doesn’t want this case to be pursued any longer, and that she is tired of being put through it and has forgiven Polanski many years ago.
Well, I can imagine. I mean, she’s the same age as me, I think — I would hate to have stuff that happened to me that long ago keep coming up in the press and all.
Exactly.
But I doubt she has forgotten.
And Polanski had already pled down to ‘only’ statutory rape. He, or he and his friends, had given the girl alcohol and drugs beforehand. So that implies to me ‘intention to’, plus a chemical version of illegal restraint. Polanski is lower than pond scum.
I don’t disagree with you.
hate to say it, but it doesn’t matter in this case what the victim wants or whether or not she’s forgiven him – the fact remains he skipped the country after pleading guilty, so that makes him an escaped felon, he will do his time for what he plead for and by everything holy to anyone, he’ll do time for fleeing as well
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, she was thirteen and he thought she was fourteen, that expalins everything.
Notice that subliminal Palin in the sentence above ( and it wasn’t even on purpose, I was just typing too fast)
Not just a palin, an expalin.
(psssst) Yes, you smoke chickens too. Do it right, and you can cook one entirely in the smoker. Mean eaten Dude. Mean.
Now I’m hungry. Smoked turkey is freaking awesome, too….
Oh man, the best meat I ever had was smoked wild turkey!
*smiles blissfully in memory*
—–
Now why did that sound naughty?
You can actually cook pretty much any meat or fish by hot smoking it.
I say choke not smoke.