We (the NICU moms) actually had a contest for the stupidest thing we’d heard each week.

Your child must be older than mine (16) or you had a very out of touch NICU, because our NICU strongly encouraged holding your premie kangeroo style on your bare chest (upper chest, down, boys). Your heartbeat and breathing helps them regulate theirs.

And to the woman who told you she’d never “leave her baby in the hospital”, tell her to kindly take a long walk off a short pier into shark-infested waters. You know as well as I do that having to leave your child is probably one of the hardest things you can do, aside from having to see them lay there hooked up to tubes and wires and not being able to hold them. So that lady can kindly go die.

And I agree. Considering the amount of time this particular president has spent on TV, I think we all need a break.

Why sock? Why indeed. Twice the off-topic personal attacks, I guess.

YOU on the other hand, seem determined to be a douche.

Here’s a definition of viable as related to babies: Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

“Ever’ dummy knows Hawai-uh ain’t part o’ thu YOU-nited states!”

I think the poster of this has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.

I’m Christian, I’m conservative, and I wholeheartedly agree with Benjamin Franklin’s view: “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

My dad brews beer. Some amazing beer at that.

Christians usually believe that it is wrong to drink too much beer and to lost control of your mind.

I believe that.

Anything in excess is bad though. Beer, food, television, whatever, etc.

For another, you say I should “explain and defend [my] point of view”– yet you ignore the fact that I did precisely that in my previous posts. In my first post to you, I said, “In every other aspect of your life, when you’re faced with a problem that you yourself cannot fix, you look to experts.[...] That’s not weakness or dependency; that’s the price we pay for not being cavemen.” There’s the explanation. Where’s the defense? Right above that paragraph. Look at those rhetorical questions again. Each of them gives an example of how a reasonable person could seek out somebody with superior knowledge and skill (mechanic, doctor, etc.) and use their services, *without* becoming “weak and pathetic” in the process. You’d know that already, if you’d actually bothered to read that “wall of text.” (Which we grown-ups call *paragraphs*.)

As for staying “civil and considered”, my original post to you, and the posts I’ve made to others on this page, were indeed civil and considered. The reason you don’t think so is that you think it’s rude to disagree with you. Granted, I’m not being civil *now, but you lost the right to be treated politely when you started throwing out insults and accusations.

Once again let me clarify, find me a recently enacted law that had religious basis? Since it’s today’s religious right pushing it’s will and morals on us poor unsuspecting citizens.

Much as I hate to admit it, we’ve got one locally, although whether it’s enforceable is on appeal right now.

Here’s a local news story about it. It’s a rule “regulating” strip clubs (which the club owners argue, rightfully, I think, is intended to put them out of business) basically holding that “New restrictions would eliminate alcohol in adult establishments, all workers in such businesses would be required to get licenses, and performers would have to stay at 6 feet from customers and each other.

I think the reason this was successful is that sexually-oriented businesses is one of the areas where the far right (“They’re SINFUL!”) and the far left (“They’re EXPLOITIVE!”) come together, at the expense of all those in the middle.

i won’t blow up on you anymore. i said what i needed to say and i tend to get along just fine with what you say.

plus, call me shortright or shorty. original just sounds weird!

I would just go ahead and pay out of pocket — it’s not that expensive (at least for guys). I know Planned Parenthood does everything sliding scale if money is an issue. Actually, most places that offer reproductive services do — despite what some people think, their goal is to NOT have any unwanted pregnancies.

Sorry that your insurance is stupid.

…(Behind the school on prom night)”

Which happened in spite of ‘legal’ abortion – hence your argument is spurious.

Also, the classic idea that women died from the so-called ‘coat hanger’ abortion is not strictly accurate. It was not the abortion that killed them, it was the infection from non-sterile operations. Strictly speaking, with today’s antibiotics, those women would have survived the procedure.

Do you realize that these ‘at risk’ mothers are usually IN LABOR when these ‘fetuses’ are killed? The child’s head is born, then they stab forceps into the base of the brain to kill it. And I got that info from a DOCTOR WHO ACTUALLY PERFORMS THE PROCEDURE!

If a woman can survive the abortion, she can survive a C section – and adopt the child out.

Do you even realize what you have admitted by saying THEY WERE KILLED!!!! You can’t kill something that was not alive.

But other than that, congratulations on adding to the discussion, my poly/cotton blend friend!

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