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That’s right, Jesus would grow broccoli

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Nah, this is what he’d do.

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  1. cumofsumyounguy says:

    fail???

    • Ivan The Floydist says:

      Please don’t cite your christianity for your opinion. Not with THAT name.

      • justacarolinian says:

        I don’t get why you would even think that he has anything to do with Christianity.

        • cumofsumyoungguy says:

          Yeah seriously lol

        • Ivan The Floydist says:

          Because is holding a sign saying WWJD?

          • parksj1 says:

            The person who you replied to, not the guy in the picture. You’re not making sense, Ivan…

            • Ivan The Floydist says:

              Ah, I see. Well, it’s most likely because I’m so used to it, it was a knee jerk reaction. If that wasn’t the case, then I apologize.

              So tell me, what in particular is the fail? The picture? The caption? And why? It has to be one or the other.

              • cumofsumyoungguy says:

                The caption doesn’t make sense and it’s not funny :P
                I’m not saying this because I am christian, I actually don’t believe in any religion.

                • Ivan The Floydist says:

                  Ok, let me explain it to you. See, his sign says “I’ll tell you what jesus would do” with a graphic of a mushroom cloud. It’s a play on ‘WWJD?’ which means ‘What Would Jesus Do?’ And the mushroom cloud is the symbol for a nuclear explosion. So the implication is that this fellow believes that jesus would blow people up. But it’s a badly drawn mushroom cloud, and it looks rather like a black and red broccoli stalk. So the captioner is cleverly saying that he thinks the fellow is saying that jesus would grow broccoli. It’s called satire. I’ll trust you to look that one up on your own.

      • I Like Peanut Butter says:

        Obviously you’re not the cool Ivan from a while ago. Ed what happened to that Ivan? This Ivan’s acting like a tool.

        It’s possible csyg just didn’t find the LOL funny. It’s possible to not find this funny and not be a “religious freak”.

        I personally thought this was funny so csyg has crappy sense of humor, but it’s all good. ;-)

        • Ivan The Floydist says:

          Well obviously religion is the issue that can get me riled. Apparently that’s not allowed around here. JAC can make comments about people being the waste that runs down a crack whore’s leg, but let me speak up about religion, and I’m suddenly the biggest dick around. Reality check, PB.

          • I Like Peanut Butter says:

            Dude: You were responding to a simple four letter word; “Fail”. CSYG didn’t even mention anything about religion and you jumped all over him. In my book that’s being a tool, and I think many would agree.

          • Justacarolinaian says:

            Ivan, the comment I made was after a LONG string of garbage. You just spouted off on someone that made no reference to anything other than not liking the picture.

            • Ivan The Floydist says:

              And? It’s not like YOU don’t have an opinion on EVERYTHING. I mean seriously, you’re in nearly every discussion on every thread. Don’t get sanctimonious now.

        • cumofsumyoungguy says:

          Doesn’t mean I don’t have a sense of humour it means we like different things, not everyone is the same…you fail!

          • cumofsumyoungguy says:

            And Ivan I’m sorry to be blunt but you are truly stupid, how can someone with a username such as mine be a christian!?
            Aren’t christians supposed to be good and whole and what not?

            • Ivan The Floydist says:

              You said above that the caption doesn’t make sense to you. The rest of us “got” it. I guess that makes YOU stupid, little troll!

              • cumofsumyoungguy says:

                No you idiot I got it, but it’s just not funny, why would jesus grow brocolli?

                • Rando the Floydist/Beatlist says:

                  You know what’s not funny? Trolling the internet. That’s right, kids. Trolling the internet will lead to venereal diseases, dry socket, drug addiction, body odor, tennis elbow, marrying your cousin, and a general feeling of sadness. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

  2. Classicist the Zappaist says:

    Those little trees don’t look happy at all.

    • Khaaaaaaan says:

      The ents go to war…

      • No1askedme says:

        We’ve all seen what happens when they do that. People end up with their towers flooded and old wizards get impaled!

        • wallFly says:

          but seriously, i think you can blame poor construction on the flooding, and that wizard had an inner ear infection, standing up on that tower he was bound to fall eventually. it was really just a comedy of errors, in my opinion, the ents were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got blamed for everything. you tree-ist!

        • Default User says:

          Can you blame the ents though? I mean broccoli is(are?) just baby trees! And people eat them! If you found out someone was eating your babies you would flood their tower and impale their wizard too!

      • HelOnWheels says:

        Talk about “tree huggers”!

        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

          When was Jesus a vegetarian? Or did he like Brocolli with his Fish.

          • HelOnWheels says:

            I was responding to Khaaaaan’s comment about the ents, not Jesus. But Jesus was a tree-huggin-hippie.

            • I Like Peanut Butter says:

              Aren’t tree huggin hippies vegetarians, or are they vegans? I forget.

              • guest says:

                Hug the trees, don’t eat them!

                • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                  So what do they eat?

                  • Ivan The Floydist says:

                    My assistant is a vegan. He eats only fruits, nuts and veggies. He does interesting things with them though, with olive oil and seasonings. Personally, I could maybe give up meat, but I couldn’t live without cheese and butter.

                    • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                      Since my duaghter can’t have milk, they do have milk free vegan cheeses and butters.

                      • HelOnWheels says:

                        Yeah and they taste almost nothing like real cheese.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          I guess a 10 month old doesn’t know the difference.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          they taste like colored sheets of plastic.

                          and ILPB – look into digestive advantage supplements. i’m 100% lactose intolerant… but they’ve got a lactase enzyme supplement and now i really like butter and cheese and ice cream. they’ve got a handful of other supplements and if you start her on them young she’ll never have the calcium deficiencies and such that i had growing up.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          My daughter can’t have lactose period. Her body can’t break down glactose. It’s a rare genetic thing. We’re testing to see if her limited enzyme functionality, liver and kidney functionality now to see if she handle some lactose. But she prefers the “soy” cheese over the real cheese. Whoda thunk it? Thanks for the adivce though.

                          PS I did apolo to Rando, but you didn’t need to be so hardcore, a simple letting me know his situation woulda sufficed.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          But she prefers the “soy” cheese over the real cheese.

                          i can tell you from experience that it’s ok for now but once she starts getting to school-age she’ll taste things from her friends and stuff. things that she knows will make her sick, but she wants to know what “real cheese” tastes like. for me, the major vice was chocolate. i knew it would make me sick, but i’d eat a few m&ms because soy chocolate tasted like crap compared to the real thing. if she’s able to take anything to make her able to eat it, you’ll be able to avoid a lot of sick nights with her later on.

                          i’m not sure if the DA supplements would work for her, but you might want to check them out on their site.
                          for kids: {http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/prod_children_li.html}
                          for adults: {http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/prod_adult_li.html}

                          it’s a good product and if it would work for her, it’s worth the $7-9 a month.

                    • Your assistant’s a vegan and he’s eating nuts? Sorry to be a pain, but that’s meat too!

                  • guest says:

                    If you really want to save the planet you will eat each other.

                    • Ivan The Floydist says:

                      Nice. Troll.

                      • guest says:

                        Sorry, failed attempt at humor. It’s just that vegans will eat plant life but not animal life or anything that comes from animals. But, the animals (cows) are the ones who are causing the pollution. The plant life is the natural cure to the pollution. Why not eat the animals avoid eating plants and help the environment?

      • ObligatoryShatnerImpression says:

        KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!

        You’re welcome, everyone.

      • 6ToedCatsRule says:

        Veeeerrrrryyyyyy sloooooowwwwwly in Afghanistan

  3. smilinstan says:

    Yes, that IS what he’d do. But why broccoli? why not carrotts?

  4. Yay, Grimmiekins for bringing the funny!

    We needed a funny lol. :-)

    • Mina says:

      Amen to that! Good job Grimmiekins for bringing the funny back to PK!

      And I can totally see hippie Jesus having an organ farm in Montana or something. WWJD indeed.

      • Lol…please tell me you meant “organic”….Jesus farming organs is a little creepy!

        • HelOnWheels says:

          OMG, Zombie Jesus!!!

          • Harry V. says:

            and that’s exactly what gets celebrated around Easter, so why be surprised?
            Come to think of it, Christians are a screwed up macabre bunch, why else call the execution of your messiah ‘Good Friday”

            • Schmoe says:

              Christians screwed up? Try the whole human race is bleedin’ insane!

            • Captain Wow says:

              We call it Good Friday because that is the day he died for our sins. It’s ‘Good’ to us. Yes it sucked for him, but his father sent him to endure that. And the following Sunday is Easter (which is more important that Christmas to us) which is the day he was resurrected.

              • bitter troll says:

                and to celebrate you practice pagan fertility rites

                you do realize the whole dyeing eggs and lil bunnies thing is all about that right?

                • justacarolinian says:

                  Yes, I do. And My family and I don’t participate.

                  • bitter troll says:

                    you realize the christmas trees….hanging holly…mistletoe…all pagan too right?

                    • Ivan The Floydist says:

                      Winter Solstice is The Reason for The Season!

                      • No1askedme says:

                        Yup!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Interesting anecdote;

                          I live in a deed restricted community. The Home Owners Association has a BOOK of rules. (Yeah, my house is on the market). One of their rules is NO signage of ANY kind allowed on the lawn except “For Sale” signs, and those must be HOA approved or from a legit realty. So during the election, some folks put out Obama or McCain signs. During the NIGHT (how black-ops!) the president of the HOA and his buddies went around in a pickup and pulled all of the signs. People grumbled, but it’s in the rules, right? Ok, flash forward to christmas. People started putting out their “jesus/reason/season” signs. Not a peep from HOA. At the next HOA meeting people complained that their political signs got pulled, why are these jesus signs allowed to stay? The answer? “You’re just picking on christmas”. WHAT? So this year, I am putting out a “solstice/reason/season” sign, and setting up a hidden, motion activated camera trained on that sign. Hilarity may ensue!

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          ivan – if they steal your sign, pull out the spray paint. it’ll work on snow (if you’re up north) or grass (if you’re down south)… it’s a lot harder to remove painted grass/snow than a simple sign. oh yeah, and i would be moving ASAP. fvcking nuts people…

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Believe me, the house is up for sale!

                        • guest says:

                          My uncle built a tool shed in his back yard that looked really nice. His HOA made him tear it down because it didn’t have the same siding as his house.

                        • Captain Wow says:

                          Those people are crazy. They wouldn’t let my Dad build a barn, but they let this woman hang a sign that said, “My Daughter’s Father is a deadbeat son of a b!tch.”

                        • Capt. Wow, I have to admit I LOVE that sign, although I’ve personally made it a policy not to refer to my kids’ dad as a deadbeat son of a bicth in front of them, so I couldn’t use it… ;-)

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          She has a daughter, not a son, and why is she calling herself a bítch? *has a confused*

                    • justacarolinian says:

                      Yeppers. And skipped in my home.

                      • Mcgyvr says:

                        Wow… your home must suck…

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          Not at all. Do a little research, and you will find it was outlawed at one point in America.

                        • No1askedme says:

                          Do you celebrate Halloween? That’s my favourite holiday. Mostly because it’s just so different. That and I’m not obligated to invite my annoying relatives over to celebrate it…

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          Nope. None of the holidays that were merged in from pagans by the Catholic church.

                        • No1askedme says:

                          So how many does that leave you with? Three or so?

                        • bitter troll says:

                          but the pagans love you justa -hugs-

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          Never counted. We choose to live every day with the joy that others only have on holidays.

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          BT, I love them too. Just don’t do their holidays.

                        • No1askedme says:

                          I’m too cynical to experience joy all the time. The only thing to bring me true happiness is cheese. :P

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          And constipation….

                        • bitter troll says:

                          bah, bitter troll take any holidays he can get, if it means bitter troll can stay home and BBQ, play some video games.

                        • @Mcgvr: I don’t celebrate Christmas either, and no, it doesn’t suck. Why get yourself all spun up and spend yourself into the hole for one day of the year?

                        • bitter troll says:

                          bitter troll does not celebrate christmas, not for money or religion, just has no friends or family

                        • Holidays suck balls. Buuuuuuut I still do them for the kids.

                        • Oh, I did when my boys were younger. But a few years ago we all agreed that it was money spent that none of us could afford. So now we just do the obligatory phone calls.

                        • We’re not planning on doing holidays with family this year as we’re kinda expecting to be feeling kind of down this year. Plus my mother’s family will not tolerate anything that isn’t super happy cheery Christmas, so if we brought up how we felt about not having our baby this year, we’d probably get thrown out. The holidays should be fun times with family, but it always ends up being so stressful. This Christmas will be simple without ruining it for the kids. That’s the plan.

                        • wallFly says:

                          ain’t no thing wrong with pagan – even the modern interpretation of Jesus and the most typcial images of God are all drawn from pagan beliefs. Jesus’ character has alot in common with demigods in both greek and egyptian religion (as well as other) – you can compare some of his traits and aspects of his story with those of Hercules and Osiris among other. Do you not celebrate jesus or god either? I’m just askin, I don’t but it sounds like you find yourself in a very much “i’m better than you because I look down on your pitiful celebrations” attittude. Or did I just read that wrong?

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          I think you’re just reading it wrong wallfly. Rando and his wife lost a baby this year. They are just not in a celebratory mood, and don’t want to be “downers” for the extended family. I went through the same thing 10 years ago. (exactly 10 years ago, as a matter of fact!) My girl and I had a full-term still-born baby in November of ’99. We skipped the holiday celebrations that year, and our families understood.

                          Losing a full term infant is NOTHING like a miscarriage. You have to have a funeral. You have to have a burial or a cremation. It’s the shíttiest thing to go through in the world. I absolutely don’t blame him for “skipping christmas”.

                        • wallFly says:

                          Ivan – thanks for the info, I wasn’t aware. Justa – my condolences and I apologize for misunderstanding. Wish you the best.

                        • I think wallfly may have been directing his comment towards JAC?

                          In any case, I love holidays!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Wow, that went weird pretty quickly. I thought he was talking to Rando. Wallfly, RANDO lost the baby, not JAC. My bad for misunderstanding who your comment was directed at. It makes more sense now that I know it was JAC. LOL

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Ivan: Ok now I understadnd th econfusion you ain’t the same Ivan.

                          As I don’t know the pain of a full term baby loss, I do know the pain of a late term loss. And I would say that the pain could be worse. At least Rando and you got to hold you’re child. As a father that feeling is incredible (I know from my daughter), however getting cheated out of not being able to say I love you to your child before they are taken away, not being able to have them FEEL your love prior to going away is a terrible terrible loss. You got to meet your child, I never did. My child became biological waste, your’s had a funeral and goodbyes. So I’m sorry but I think a miscarriage leaves a much more open wound, b/c there is no finalization, or even minutes of joy of holding the most precious thing in the world.

                          I don’t blame Rando for skipping out on Christmas too, and not trying to belittle or one up you guys, it’s just that late term miscarriages can be pretty detremental too.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          I think you misunderstand “still-birth” Our child died before birth. Never drew a breath. There is no joy in holding your child for the first time, and knowing he (in my case, my son) will never open his eyes or draw a breath. In the case of miscarriage, you never hold that tiny body, you don’t instantly bond with him or her, even though they are already gone. Not to belittle the pain of a miscarriage, but still-birth is real hell that you can touch.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Sorry Ivan, missed the “still” part. thought you’re situation was similar to Rando’s.

                          So yeah you probably feel somewhat cheated too. I don’t know but part of me wishes that I could have buried my son/daughter instead of him/ her becoming “biological waste”. To me that’s what hurts the most, no chance to even say goodbye.

                        • Justacarolinaian says:

                          Wallfly, if you want to be pagan, go for it. But I’m not. And I also am not dependent on you to approve or condemn my religious beliefs.
                          Pagans and other religions don’t celebrate certain things, as they are not part of their beliefs. Doesn’t mean any more that they are condescending than any religion.
                          So I guess you just read it wrong. And I would also say I don’t go for the idea of Pagan/Jesus as you describe. But you are welcome to believe what you want.

                        • Uh, as I said in another thread, let’s not compare losses. No good can come of this. Once you get into the area of losing a baby no matter what the circumstances, you’re already in an area that sucks so bad that it’s beyond comparison. The only thing I will say is that the experiences of miscarriage & extremely premature birth/stillbirth are different. Not better or worse, just different.

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          Cool.

                        • Well, it’s more my wife’s family but I don’t really mind. I just don’t see the point in racking up a massive debt.

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          Same here, and the fact that it has nothing to do with the real thing, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

                        • The one that always cracked me up was the saying, “Jesus, it’s the reason for the season.” If that helps people rationalize the holiday, so be it. But the truth is, it isn’t.

                        • dissimilitude says:

                          That “reason for the season” thing always annoyed me. I mean, I realize the internal rhyming makes it catchier, but “reason for Christmas” or “reason for the holiday” would be a little closer to correct (whether or not it’s accurate as to actual date of birth….). I kinda want a bumpersticker that says “Axial tilt: It’s the reason for the seasons.” More accurate. ;-)

                        • wallFly says:

                          “Axial tilt: It’s the reason for the seasons.”

                          lol, that’s entertaining. :)

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Great googy-moogy! That’s inspired Diss! May I use it on my hidden camera trap? :D

                        • HelOnWheels says:

                          Diss – I think I need to make the bumper sticker for you! LMAO!!

                        • Captain Wow says:

                          Diss I like that. I have a t-shirt that says, “Angular Momentum is what makes the world go round.”

                        • Lol…feel free to use it, Ivan! (If you were to, say, post a pic of it on FB…that would be superawesome!)

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Oh, I will, I promise. *cheeky grin*

                        • Well, to be honest, we do the Christmas tree and presents, and a few decorations, but we’ve never done Santa Claus. Same with Easter. We’ll do an Easter egg hunt, but no Easter Bunny. We prefer to keep imaginary characters out of our holiday celebrations (which I’m sure our atheist friends would find ironic ;) ), plus I want credit for giving my kids those gifts not some imaginary fat man from the North Pole. Also, I’d hate to have to break their heart by telling them the truth about Santa Claus.

                • Ivan The Floydist says:

                  No no BT. Easter is to celebrate that jebus died, so he could rise a couple days later, roll back the stone, see his own shadow, and hide painted eggs.

                • charro the Floydist says:

                  Our Saviour has risen from the dead! How should we celebrate?
                  How about eggs?
                  What?
                  Well ok, there will be a bunny too.

                  • That doesn’t really make much sense to me either, except to keep kids interested in what might be an otherwise boring holiday.

                    • HelOnWheels says:

                      *adjust her Comparative Religion glasses*
                      The rabbit and eggs and candy/sweets were pagan rites/symbols adopted by the early church from the Druid spring fertility celebration of the vernal equinox. This adaptation of pagan rituals and symbols helped to convert, bring in to the fold, a lot more pagans more easily. The Druids looked at the hare (not rabbit) as a symbol of rebirth and the symbolism of the eggs is rather self-evident.

                      *looks over top of glasses* This MIGHT be on your next test.

                      • NoOneInteresting says:

                        “. . .and the symbolism of the eggs is rather self-evident.”

                        They’re good with bacon?

                        • paws4thot says:

                          Chocolate goes with bacon!?

                          I mean, rabbit goes pretty well with bacon, and I reckon hen or duck eggs would go with both; it’s the chocolate that confuses me.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Believe it or not, I HAVE seen chocolate dipped bacon. *shudder*

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          bacon and chocolate go together surprisingly well. it’s the whole sweet and salty mix. i tried it a few years ago in a boutique chocolate shop in prescott, AZ.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Well, I do have that sweet/salty thing going anyway. I dig chocolate ice cream and a freshly opened bag of Lay’s. Not TOGETHER, mind you. A bite of one, a bite of the other. Mind blowing. But then again, my mind is easily blown. ;)

                        • Cost Plus / World Market sells these amazing chocolate bars that have little bits of rock salt in them…amazing!

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          sweet/salty… wendy’s french fries dipped in a chocolate frosty. yum.

                        • charro the Floydist says:

                          Prescott, like biscuit.

                        • Ivan — I thought I was the only weirdo who ate potato chips and chocolate ice cream together! (I kinda use the ice cream as a dip, though…)

                        • For the last time, Ivan, it’s not your MIND that you want blown. *shakes head sadly*

                          It does seem to me though that a great number of things brought into the holiday folds from the pagans seem to be aimed at kids. I mean, sure, some adults go for the colored eggs and Christmas trees, but that seems more like kids’ stuff to me.
                          (FTR, I’ve been a fair amount of cynical about holidays since before this year, so don’t think that’s the only reason I like to downplay holidays.)

                      • charro the Floydist says:

                        *shakes head sadly* Another unenlightened soul who has not experienced the Love that is Jim Gaffigan.

              • Ivan The Floydist says:

                “I’m going to create man and woman with original sin. Then I’m going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child, so that I can be born. Once alive, I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself. To save you you from the sin I originally condemned you to. Ta Dah!”

                • Mina says:

                  Technically Adam and Eve weren’t created with original sin. The term usually refers to them eating to apple from the special tree. That’s the original sin.

                  • Ivan The Floydist says:

                    It was a set-up. AND he lied to them. “Eat it and you’ll DIE”. They ate. They didn’t die. The snake was the one who told the truth. Ponder that.

                    • justacarolinian says:

                      A day to God is 1000 years to man. No man ever lived 1000 years. And the died spiritually that earth day.

                      Come on everyone, lets start an atheist bashing! /sarcasm

                      • No1askedme says:

                        If God doesn’t live on a planet, how does he experience a “day”? I always though the stereotypical heaven was always sunny anyways. … who knows, it’s a pointless argument anyways… :\

                        • justacarolinian says:

                          That heaven is after the passing away of this heaven and earth. And to be detailed, it’s when heaven is set up here on earth.
                          Also, he did dwell between the Cherubims at Solomon’s Temple. And as a man for 33 years.

                        • No1askedme says:

                          That sounds really complicated…

                        • brak the Zappaist says:

                          I hope I get many packs of Cherubims in my Halloween Candy!!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          I was watching the news just this evening, and a story came on about a church center burning down. It was sad, but it’s not like it was somebody’s home, and no one was hurt. Then the kicker of the story; it was a donation center for food and supplies to give to people who lost everything to…fire. Now tell me, is god cruel, have a nasty sense of humor, or does he just not exist?

                        • HelOnWheels says:

                          No1 – God is like a leprechaun…Or is it a shamrock? ;-)

                        • It sounded more to me like you were picking on Christian beliefs. I don’t really want to see a Christian Vs. Atheist argument going here. And I may be biased, but when the religiously tinted LOLs start, there tend to be a lot more atheist trolls roasting Christians than the other way around. You’re no troll, Ivan, but you’re also no peacekeeper. ;)

                        • You know, not everything that happens, be it good or bad, isn’t God’s fault. It neither proves or disproves God’s existance. It’s entirely possible that it could be a fault in the power, the gas, or an act of vandalism. I think what Rando meant was quit trying to bait people with non-sensical comments.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Ivan: Quick question: What if the Church was old and the ceiling was getting ready to collapse that Sunday. Maybe God let the church burn down to save hundreds of worshippers from being smashed?

                          Not that I believe that was what happened, but it’s a possibility.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          They call that “apologetic” reasoning. The logical thinker will say “Here’s my information, so here’s my deduction.” The religious thinker will say, “Here’s my deduction, find a way for the information to fit.”

                          So to answer your question, “What if the Church was old and the ceiling was getting ready to collapse that Sunday. Maybe God let the church burn down to save hundreds of worshippers from being smashed?” I pose a question back to you; what if Zeus was mad at the minister, and decided to punish him by burning his center down? or What if The Flying Spaghetti Monster was angered by the lack of pasta in the donations?

                          And again (since it seems to need to be said) I am NOT being snarky. I am DEBATING.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Well who’s to say those things didn’t happen? If that’s what you believe.

                          Just saying we don’t know the spiritual reason the chruch burned down, but sometimes in life when there is difficulty something better can come of it.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Also, PB, let me clarify the story for you. This was NOT a church. It was a church CENTER. It was a place that accepted and doled out donations to fire victims. It was not the same building as the church, but a separate facility. There were people working in the building when the fire was discovered. They got out, the place burned to the ground and most of the donated items (food, clothing, bedding) was destroyed in the fire.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          PB, why does there have to be a “spiritual reason” that the center burned down?

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Ivan: B/C there is a spiritual reason for everything. Once again spiritualy does not equate to Godly. Everything in the world is connected some how, whether it be via one sentient being, multiple sentient beings, karma, re-birth, etc.

                          Hey what if some of the food wasn’t prepared propery or there was a disease, or swine flu had infected the cans, who knows?!?!?

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          That’s the best you can do? “What if?” questions? I call this debate on account of lack of initiative.

                        • I find it hard to believe that there is a spiritual explanation for everything. I had a similar conversation with a friend last week, in which she posited that even in a terrible tragedy, perhaps god is imparting some lesson, the old “there’s a reason for everything” mantra.

                          But when people make that argument, I think about Andrea Yates, the woman who drowned each of her five children one by one in the family bathtub, and how she said that the children ran and tried to hide once they realized what she was going to do to them. And I can’t rationalize that, and say that maybe those children had to go through that for some spiritual reason. I don’t believe that, I don’t accept that. I can accept that atrocities happen and life is violent and sometimes there are no explanations, but I can’t accept that some all-powerful, all-knowing spiritual entity watched those kids get drowned by their own mother, satisfied that everything was going to plan.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Ivan: Dude what happened to you. You used to be a much easier going person, at least respectful to me. I go away a few months and get treated like any type of troll.

                          You debated me with a speghetti monster and Zesus. I said sure why not. Returned that statement with more what if’s.

                          Suicide: Everything does happen for a reason, we just can’t understand that. Might not be a good reason, but it happens for a reason.

                          To take from B5. If I were to pick up an ant and put it back down, could it even hope to understand my reasoning.

                        • Danbala says:

                          “there is a spiritual reason for everything. Once again spiritualy does not equate to Godly. Everything in the world is connected some how, whether it be via one sentient being, multiple sentient beings, karma, re-birth, etc.”

                          No.

                          (As you are stating a matter of belief as a truth, I’ll just say “No.”. ;p )

                        • PB, there is no evidence that everything happens for a reason. But you’re right, I don’t understand what possible reason there could be for a thing like that.

                        • Now see, I do think everything is connected in some way, but I don’t see that as a reason for *why* events happen. And that feeling that everything is connected, I don’t see that as a rationalization or justification of atrocities committed.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          PB, just because I refuse to keep my mouth shut over my lack of belief, you say I’m not respecting you? Can’t you see that trying to convince me that you have an invisible sky daddy, and I need to believe in him too can be interpreted as disrespecting me? We were having a civil debate. You refused to come up with anything but “What if?” and I already addressed that.

                          I’m still me. I still like to be goofy. I still love you all. I’m just tired of keeping quiet about my lack of faith. I was having a ball debating you. It keeps my brain young. ;)

                        • Danbala says:

                          ILPB:
                          Yes, the “spiritual reason” to everything, and things being connected, “whether it be via one sentient being, multiple sentient beings, karma, re-birth, etc” are beliefs. Saying that there are effects and reactions to most things, some of them unexpected, is quite a different thing. Not evertime an American butterfly flaps its wings is an Asian country devastated by a hurricane.

                          The universe is full of interesting and peculiar connections, but from that to “everything is connected” there’s a rather huge leap.

                        • Rando the Floydist/Beatlist says:

                          Way late on this response, but I didn’t mean “don’t ask, don’t tell.” Frankly, I hate religious debates altogether and consider private beliefs (no matter what they are) to be just that, private. BUT, seeing as it’s a public forum and all, it’s gonna come up sometimes. Maybe I am a little biased, but I took what you said way the hell up there as being a bit provoking. I wouldn’t try to belittle you for being an atheist. I *am* a liberal, after all. ;)

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          IVAN: I’m not religious. I wouldn’t expect anyone to believe in the man upstairs unless they wanted to. My simple arguements was why discount people’s belief’s if it helps them cope. It doesn’t make them weak, it allows them to justify wrongs in their life. If it allows them to draw strength great. You can draw strength from your beliefs and I can from mine (gotta love the Budda/ Khaine mixture). ;-)

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Aliens planted fossils to hide their experiment (humans). Then messed up by showing up to build the pyramids, which is actually galactic traffic cones. “Avoid this planet, crazies live here”.

                      • @JAC re: “A day to God is 1000 years ot man. No man ever lived 1000 years.”

                        Doesn’t the bible say that Adam lived 930 years, and that Seth lived for 912 years, and Noah lived 950 years?

                    • guest says:

                      Adam and Eve are still alive? Wow, I thought they died a long time ago. But, He wasn’t talking about a physical death. They died a spiritual death by committing the sin. That was the same reason the Jews rejected Jesus. They wanted a new physical kingdom and rejected Jesus who preached a spiritual kingdom. You can’t understand most of the stuff in the bible if you look at it from a strictly physical viewpoint.

                      • Ivan The Floydist says:

                        So is the bible an allegory, or to be taken literally? Not baiting, not flaming, asking an honest question.

                        • guest says:

                          Many things in the bible are an allegory or parable. There is still a lot of debate over how much is allegory. The book of Job for example is believed to be an allegory because there is no other reference to Job in history. Many of the other characters in the Old Testament are listed in lineages and there are artifacts, other writings and other evidence to suggest that many of the characters in the bible actually existed. The first four books of the New Testament are written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, And John. These books were written at different times by four different men, but follow a very similar story. Those four books along with writings from other people during the same time suggest that Jesus was a real person, not just a mythical figure.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          No one is disputing the existence of the WRITERS. Just of the subject they wrote about. There is no evidence outside of the bible to show that jesus ever existed. No no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. And in addition, of the 4 gospels you speak of; marks was the earliest, written 70 YEARS after jesus was reputedly crucified, and the last, johns was written 20 years later! It’s entirely possible that jesus was an allegory to try to instruct people how to live. Throw in the inconsistencies of the 4 gospels, and it makes it more suspect. I’m not saying that it’s a BAD thing, as the stories about him make him a wonderful role-model. I just wish more people really did live like him! As gandhi said “I like your christ, I do not like your christians. Your christians are so unlike your christ.”

                        • guest says:

                          The fact that the books were written so many years apart and still tell the same basic story tells me that it is more believable. If four people were to witness an event today and write down their version of that event today, you would still have inconsistency in the four versions even though the basic story would be the same. The fact that there are some differences in the four stories doesn’t make the entire story a fabrication.

                        • Guest, folk tales are passed down through many generations, many cultures. That doesn’t make them factual or historical.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          guest, one would assume that if the stories were divinely inspired, they’d be consistent.

                • Iavn, you are obviously trying to speak of things you know nothing about. I’ll give you kudos for trying, but you have the entire scenario all messed up. Even though you don’t believe in God, if you’re going to try and discuss beliefs, I suggest you at least read the book.

                  • Ivan The Floydist says:

                    I was raised by a baptist minister, Ed. I’ve had religion pounded into me my whole life, and have read the book several times over my lifetime. The contradictions and inconsistencies in that book are what caused me to start questioning in the first place.

                    I wasn’t SAYING “It’s gods fault”. I don’t even believe in god. I was asking how anyone could believe in a god that would let bad things happen to good people, and in this case, a building used for his “works”. If folks can get better from an illness, and claim god healed them, why would that same god let children die from disease/abuse/neglect/what-have-you? These are the things that lead me to non belief.

                    PS this was NOT a rant. It was an honest explanation of why I believe the way I do. It was not meant to start a flame war, but I expect one anyway.

                    • Elissa says:

                      Being raised by a Baptist minister explains a lot…

                      • Danbala says:

                        Oh, and our way of counting time being related to the birth of Jesus (and if he was born when he should have been born regarding all other history, that date is a few years off anyway) is proof of nothing but the force of religion’s effect on societies.

                    • guest says:

                      Ivan, when my niece died of cancer a few years ago I struggled with the same questions you have. She was two years old, how could God let something so terrible happen to someone so innocent?

                      My dad is also a preacher, not baptist, but he is a very religious man. There were literally thousands of Christians all over the country that were praying for her to get better and she still died.

                      After she died I completely stopped praying. After all, what’s the use in me praying if the prayers of thousands of Christians have no sway with God? I thought that way for several years.

                      Then I read the book of Job. If you have read through the bible several times I know you know the story. The whole book, I think, is about why good people suffer along with the evil.

                      The one passage that sums it up best if you don’t want to read a whole book is Matt 5: 45 “He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.” I began to realize that we all have to die at some point, and we don’t have any say in when that is. God didn’t miraculously heal my niece, but he did make her better. When she died all the pain and suffering that she was going through with the chemo and cancer stopped. I don’t know what else she would have gone through in this life if God had cured her illness, but I believe He does and He knew it was time for her to go.

                      • Ivan The Floydist says:

                        I’m glad that your faith comforts you. And with your internal struggle, you came out with your faith intact. I, and thousands like me, did not. And thousands more haven’t suffered tragedy and STILL don’t believe. I’m not trying to be pithy here, but you don’t believe in THOUSANDS of gods (Zeus, Cthulu, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, etc.) I just don’t believe in 1 more than you.

                        • guest says:

                          Just out of curiosity, what contradictions and inconsistencies have you found? I don’t want to ram my beliefs down your throat, they will still be mine no matter whose throat I rammed them down, but I am curious.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          Guest as a defender of pretty much all religions but not religious myself, the bible is riddled with inconsistencies, especially the King James version. Christianity itself is riddled with hypocries as well. The messages are great, it’s just humans took over and well, we suck.

                        • guest says:

                          PB, can you give me some specific examples. I can say President Obama lies most of the time he is talking, but without any specific examples it doesn’t hold any water.

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          <<<<>>>>>

                          Just some.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Wow, I’ve tried to post a link twice, and it’s going poof. Hm. Let’s try this:

                          {.cs.umd.edu/~mvz/bible/bible-inconsistencies.}

                          Now, put www at the front and pdf at the end, in place of the {}.

                        • guest says:

                          I looked over that. Most of the stuff is trivial. Noah is the just and righteous. Noah the drunk.

                          What? Good people can’t do bad things. Sorry, everyone makes bad decisions. If you are looking for perfection in people you aren’t going to find it. That is why there are so many problems in religion today. People think they have to be perfect so they try to hide their imperfections. That is why we have priests who refuse to marry because they are being “celibate”, but then go out and molest alter boys. That is why there are tv evangelists who get caught with prostitutes. That is why religion is mocked by so many people today. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. That doesn’t imply perfection and anyone who reads perfection into it is missing the point. What is the point? Be a good person and don’t spend your life pursuing earthly things.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Do you think that because I don’t believe in your god that I don’t do good things? I care for my family, I care for my fellow man. I’m not going to enumerate my charitable works here, as I could say anything, and how could I prove any of it. That’s pretty much the thing that riles up atheists the most. We don’t believe in god, we must be “immoral”. Bah.

                          My point is, the bible is supposed to be the word of god, yes? God pretty much dictated it, right? If that’s the case, there should be NO inconsistencies. My point is that it was written by human beings with great imaginations, using each others stories as a basis.

                        • guest says:

                          Jesus is a historical figure and the debate is not over whether or not he lived, it is over whether or not he performed miracles or is the Son of God.

                          The bible is a collection of writings from many different writers over hundreds maybe thousands of years. Also, the bible, was put together by Constantine 300 years after Jesus died.I didn’t get to be there to help pick and choose which writings should be included and which should be left out. I am not going to assume that all the books of the bible are inspired by God or that they all belong in the book. At the same time, I am not willing to say that because there may be inconsistencies in a book that was written and assembled by men that some of the stories in that book are not true or that some of the books are not inspired.

                          I understand that it takes faith to believe in God. It also takes faith to believe that there is no God. To me, the idea that everything was created by something more powerful and more intelligent than us takes less faith to believe than the idea that there was an explosion millions of years ago that created the perfect conditions on this planet for microscopic organisms to exist. Those organisms then evolved into less primitive life forms and so on and so forth until humans came into existence.

                          I like what Einstein said about it: “We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.”

                        • guest says:

                          I believe that if there is no God, then good and evil don’t exist. Therefore, you are neither capable of performing good or evil deeds. If we simply exist for the amount of time that we are on earth and there is nothing after this, we are nothing more than animals and there is no reason for me to do anything for anyone other than myself.

                          Someone else had quoted Mark Twain who said “Man is the only animal that blushes, or needs to.” If someone saw you naked or having sex by accident you would probably blush, if not then they probably would. Animals don’t mind being naked all the time or having sex where everyone can see. We have the knowledge of good and evil, so we perceive that we should be clothed and that sex is something that should be done in private.

                        • @ guest: actually, there is a debate over whether or not Jesus was an actual person, since there are no references to him in the historical writings from the scribes of his own time. Further, there are many figures throughout history who share the traits attributed to Jesus (born of a virgin, 12 disciples, died and then resurrected on the third day, etc.), suggesting that he is a mythical figure, not a historical one.

                          Also, with regard to your reference to Einstein, may I offer the following quote from the man:

                          I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony in what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions
                          of human beings.” In an article for the New York Times, Einstein spoke of himself as having a “cosmic religious sense,” which knows “no dogmas and no God made in man’s image,” which he said was shared with the great mystics; he compared himself with the likes of Democritus, St. Francis, and Spinoza. He also commented that one must
                          have a poor moral sense if the only way one could act virtuously is if one expect rewards and punishments after death, which speaks to your last point, “If we simply exist for the amount of time that we are on earth and there is nothing after this, we are nothing more than animals and there is no reason for me to do anything for anyone other than myself.”

                        • guest says:

                          Sorry, I should have said there is no debate among historians whether or not Jesus existed. You should do some research on that. There are other writings about him outside of the ones in the bible. Also, if you haven’t noticed, our years are measured by how long ago he was here on earth.

                          I stand by my statement on right and wrong. If we each have our own moral compass alone to guide us, then mass-murderers have really done nothing wrong because their moral compass didn’t tell them that they shouldn’t kill people. Anything that doesn’t offend your own moral conscience becomes okay because there is no greater power than the individual man and no greater compass than the one we have developed within our own hearts.

                        • Danbala says:

                          “Sorry, I should have said there is no debate among historians whether or not Jesus existed. You should do some research on that.”

                          There is. Those who question the authenticity of Jesus’ existence or the historicity of him are in a minority (but a growing minority).

                          “There are other writings about him outside of the ones in the bible.”

                          Which are those?

                        • Danbala says:

                          Oh, and our way of counting time being related to the birth of Jesus (and if he was born when he should have been born regarding all other history, that date is a few years off anyway) is proof of nothing but the force of religion’s effect on societies.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Guest, I’ll need to see a cite about those “other writings”. Hopefully, you won’t drag out Josephus, as that has also been discredited as fake. As far as historians are concerned, there IS no debate, as there IS no evidence. But let me address this statement you made.

                          If this is true, how do you explain the people who existed BEFORE jesus? Do you think there was no murder then, or if there was murder, no punishment? Even murderers know they are doing wrong, otherwise they wouldn’t hide from the world. To say that moral people are only moral because they are afraid of ultimate punishment, or that they think they’ll be rewarded in “heaven” is an insult to humans. If something you do harms someone else, it’s “bad”. Every human knows this. You don’t need god to know the difference between good and bad (what you call evil). To claim that we’d all be maniacs running around murdering and pillaging if we didn’t have your god is patently ridiculous, and MAN I’m tired of that old saw!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          I also find it amusing that the 2 men you quoted (Einstein and Twain) were both atheists.

                        • guest says:

                          Josephus is one of the writers who wrote about Jesus. There are parts of his writings that historians believe were added in by the church at a later time to make it seem that he had a favorable view of Jesus. You can find edited versions of his text that delete or highlight the parts that historians believe were added later and see that he still speaks of Jesus in his writings. There are other early Christians who wrote about him that are not in the bible. I guess they don’t count since they are Christians though.

                          How can the date be off by a few years for someone who was never born and is just a myth?

                          Einstein made it a point to distance himself from atheists because he wanted to distance himself from them. As Suicide Blonde pointed out he said that he didn’t believe in a personal God, but he did believe in God. Whatever his concept of God was he still believed he existed.

                          How do I explain the people who existed before Jesus? You studied the bible you should know that. There was a Patriarchal, Mosaic, Ecclesiastic, and Christian dispensation. Those that lived before Christ lived under other dispensations.

                          I said if there were no God there would be no good or evil, I didn’t say if there were no Jesus.

                          Going back to murder, you said that even murderers know what they are doing is wrong. Let me ask you this. If we are no more than animals, why is it okay for animals to kill each other, even within their own kind, but it suddenly becomes wrong when humans do it? What separates us from all the other animals Ivan? Why do we have a moral imperative not to kill? If not God, however you perceive Him, then what? Why should we be held to any higher standard than all the other animals, if we are only animals ourselves? I am not saying you have to believe in God or accept God to know right from wrong, but why do we perceive a right and a wrong when it is absent in the rest of the animal kingdom. All other animals take what they want when they want it and the only thing that stops them is a stronger animal. Why are we different? If you can answer me that, honestly, then we can continue the discussion. Until you can answer me that I think we are done.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          “What separates us from all the other animals Ivan?”

                          The short answer is “higher intelligence”. I’d hate to think it, but if you didn’t believe in god, you’d run over and kill your neighbor?

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          And I’m still waiting on those “other writtings” about jesus. Josephus doesn’t count, as it has been discredited, and no one can tell what is original, and what was added by the church. Nice subject change though, I fell for it for awhile.

                          And I still dislike that you think I have no morals, and I run around murdering people since I don’t know good from evil. ;)

                    • lowly grunt says:

                      That explains a lot, Ivan! I was raised sorta Presbyterian kinda sometimes when we hadn’t been in a while and now do the gig for a living.

                      Go figure. BTW, I assume you’ve read Job…….

                      • lowly grunt says:

                        AND I posted this before reading the post above yours. You might want to read Job!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          I’ve read the whole thing. Several times. So the explanation you’re giving me is that god and satan got into a pissing contest, and this poor shlub job got shafted? Really? That’s the best you got?

                    • Well, you could read the history of Martin Luther King, written by 20 different people (as an example) and you will get inconsistancies as well. The Bible is the inspired Word of God written by men. I’m sure God is sitting there thinking, “Man, that is so not what I meant!” What I was referring to was you saying God created man with original sin. That is NOT the case at all, sin was a result of Adam and Eve disregarding God’s instruction not to eat from the tree of life.

                      Bottom line is, if you are an atheist, that doesn’t bother me one bit. I’m not responsible for how you choose to live your life, just as you’re not responsible for how I live mine. With that thought in mind, just remember the saying “Live and let live.” and move on.

                      • Ivan The Floydist says:

                        If an accident happened and the police asked the witnesses to write reports, they would have inconsistencies in them, but that wouldn’t mean that the accident did not happen, right? But if they were all the inspired by an omniscient, omnipotent deity while they were writing their reports, there wouldn’t be any inconsistencies.

                        But I can dig what you’re saying at the end there, Eds. I’m only (now, as I’m tired of typing) addressing specific comments made TO me. I’m ready to go back to the fun stuff now.

                        • Ok, one last thought here and then I’ll move on. I will agree that there incosistancies with the Bible, but you shouldn’t disregard the entirety of the Bible based on those alone. Again, we don’t have the ability to query God and ask, “What were you really trying to convey?” You see, there’s a difference between the literal Word of God and the inspired Word of God. I live according to the latter and put down any inconsistancies to the fault of the writer and not God.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Again, if god inspired them each to write a gospel, wouldn’t they be more consistent?

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          DUDE! Really consistency from human beings? That’s the one thing that Christians have compeletly wrong. The bible was written by men, not by the divine presence of god within men. There might have been guidence, but once again God gave us free will, and I’m pretty sure that men used that free will to write some of the bible.

                          The one scary thing though is after watching “History of the Bible” on History channel, there are some scarey accuracies in the Bible being written thousands of years later. With out science now we still cna’t get everything accurate from 100 years ago.

                    • jmj says:

                      Sorry I missed your reply above, but there were 3 or 4 Roman historians who reference Jesus and the beginnings of Christianity.

              • Harry V. says:

                So you’re saying that besides enjoying seeing their messiah suffer Christians are cowards too in that they have him pay for their sins rather then living up to the consequences themselves?
                Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

                • HelOnWheels says:

                  I suggest you STFU and leave, you intolerant fu(kweasel

                • Ivan The Floydist says:

                  Harry, I appreciate the atheistic support, but don’t be such a dick about it, k? Please? I love these people. Well, most of them anyhow. ;)

                  • Harry V. says:

                    Truth be told I have nothing against any religion, but I do get amused at how easily some people are offended by someone like me deliberately misinterpreting their own words or beliefs.

                    Seriously people, look a bit on the brighter side of life and enjoy the time you have. No sense in getting pissed off about something so trivial.

                • guest says:

                  Why are people like you so adamant about their right to believe in nothing? No one is compelling you to believe anything, but you still feel some sick sense of satisfaction in taunting other people about their personal beliefs. If you really feel you are more “enlightened” than people who dare to believe there is something more powerful than us and that people who believe in God are just stupid and weak, doesn’t that just make you a bully for picking on stupid, weak people? I remember kids like you in Junior High, they are the ones who would steal the cripple kids crutches and then laugh when he couldn’t get them off the top of the soda machine.

                  • Danbala says:

                    There’ll be wankers on all sides. Some people who “see the light” are not happy with that unless they get to explain why it’s so superior to any other view, be it atheists or believers. The exact reason why quite a few people function like that? Good question. Bad self-esteem? Feeling of worth by diminishing others?

                  • Ivan The Floydist says:

                    Because I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE IN NOTHING. There is SO much religious iconography in this country that we feel it rammed down our throats constantly. Religious freedom swings both way. You have the right to try to convert us, and we have the right to show you why we don’t believe.

                    • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                      And I have the right to tell you both to STFU. Damn being in the middle is annoying. The anger on both sides is STOOPID!!

                      That’s all, let’s laterh up suicide, original, viking,danabala in some olive oil and have them wrestle it out which is the sexiest Blogger on this siite.

                      Ivan you bring the video, Dhoti you pick out each’s entrance theme, and I’ll bring the beer.

                      • the_original_shortright says:

                        i’ll sit this one out and put my money on s_b. the richard simmons costume confirmed this to me!

                        • Heeeeee :)

                          This year I’m going to be Sweeney Todd. Yipee!

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Any videos obtained of the_original_shortright either nude or otherwise shall be the sole property of myself, not to be viewed by any of you perverts. Especially nude. Or in hot-pants.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          s_b, tomorrow at the office i’m morticia addams, i’m dying my hair black for the day, long black slinky dress, making a black lace bolero to wear over it. saturday i’m going a bit dominatrix-y. black knee high boots, black thigh-high fish nets with garters, black hot pants, black corset laced up the back (half unhooked down the front), with bright red hair. yes, i’m dying my hair black, bleaching it all out and then dying it red 24 hours later. if i go bald on sunday we’ll all know why!

                          ivan – there will be pics from saturday. video only if i get really drunk. i tend to try NOT to take those. and see as how i’ve got to work sunday afternoon i’m hoping i don’t get that drunk sat night. however, you don’t get sole dibs… the current boy has dibsies too.

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          *head asplodes*

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          *passes ivan a swiffer wetvac and duct tape*

                          you might want to clean up that mess…

                        • Ivan The Floydist says:

                          Well…YOU caused it. *pouts and starts mopping*

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          i didn’t do anything yet to cause any asplosions. yet being the key word!

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          ***looks at floor*** Ivan I don’t think it’s just brains and convetti but some other clear gooey stuff…. what is that?

                          Original there will be no more taunting poor Mr. Ivan.

                        • TOS! As awesome as both of your costumes sound, may I warn you against dying, bleaching and redying! My old roommate did it and all her hair broke off about three inches from her head, and had the texture of straw. It’s not worth it!

                          p.s. I hope there will be pictures :)

                        • viking gal says:

                          Hmm olive oil. Good for winter skin. OK, I’m in!

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          s_b… i decided against going bald. i recently bleached my hair out blonde so it’s already a bit weak. so i bought colored hair spray. it doens’t look nearly as good… but it’ll wash out and the worst it will do is leave me with a slight color residue that i’ll need to correct rather than a bald head.

                          however, i have threatened to shave my head a few times before just because i can…

                          and there WILL be pictures. :)

                        • You’re making the right choice shortright! I’m going to sleep better tonight.

                          My Sweeney Todd costume is nearly complete, party’s tomorrow night, can’t wait! :)

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          so, someone in my office just told me that i look good with black hair. umm, what?! no. i look like the weird goth kid in high school who plots to kill people.

                          how exactly are you going as sweeney todd? stage version or burton version? you need to post pics too! i’m intrigued!

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          At least you have hair. :-p

                        • Johnny Depp / Tim Burton version. Something like this (link in name, don’t know html!)

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          s_b – an unexpected johnny depp photo behind a link!? i think i love you right now!

                          now i’m super pumped to see this costume of yours.

                    • guest says:

                      Ivan, I wasn’t referring to you in that comment. I was actually talking about Harry V. because he is being disrespectful and taunting people for their personal beliefs. I think you have been respectful in communicating your views and I have tried to be respectful to you in communicating mine. Harry V. has shown no respect whatsoever.

                • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                  Harry V. Everyone’s already jumped on you, but to point out you’re history of Christianity fail. There was no such thing as Christians until after Jesus’ ressurection, which coincidently was after his death. So how did Christians enjoy seeing him suffer?

              • Cas says:

                ahh so for christians someone else taking the blame and getting punished for you is a good thing. now i get it.

            • Default User says:

              It’s called good friday because jesus died for your sins! Show some respect! Seriously….

              Now if you don’t mind…I have to go make sure he didn’t die in vain.

              Lets see..seven sins, seven days a week, thats a sin a day…I declare Sunday Sloth day! Monday Pride Day, Tuesday Wrath Day, Wednesday Greed Day, Thursday Gluttony Day, Friday Envy Day, And Saturday Lust Day!

        • Mina says:

          *headdesk* crap. My only defense is that an actual funny on PK made me so happy I forgot to check my spelling.

      • n00bs says:

        I think they have those “organ” farms in China, not allowed in Montana.

    • Holy crap, it is a Grimmiekins LOL! Thank goodness, something to neutralize the EWAdams.

    • This lol actually made me lol! Consider it favorited! Nice work Grimmiekins :)

  5. cgray says:

    So punditkitchen isn’t making any effort at all to be unbiased-labeling tea party protestors as “teabaggers.” Or I guess it could be repressed memories of what daddy did to you when you were little.

  6. The Steve says:

    Bake muffins?

  7. MJB says:

    But what DID the guy holding the sign ACTUALLY mean???? I’m baffled.

  8. Ace5762 says:

    If that guy is serious, it’s a very scary thought as to the degradation of the christian perspective of christian values.

    • MRob says:

      Many people who claim to be Christian only pay lip service, and use it as a psychological crutch. All religions suffer from this, and unfortunately tend to be defined more by the culture and thinking of the times, than the original message. Nothing new, group human nature, and there will always be idiots. That said, yeah it is pretty mind blowing if he is serious!!
      p.s. LULZ good caption I approve :)

  9. happy says:

    coll damn happy! :( H.A.P.P.Y.!!!!!

  10. Tim says:

    looks more like a muffin to me… :P

  11. fatfingers says:

    The worst part is that he obviously first painted “woud” and then tried wedging the L in, but failed.

  12. cong says:

    *sigh* typical american

  13. Champagne and Gunsmoke says:

    What I find hilarious is that some moron keeps posting stuff on here, saying the picture features a “teabagger”.

    Guess who’s getting teabagged? Not the guy in the picture that’s for sure. More likely the Obama-loving sheep posting the picture. Enjoy your taxes.

  14. YES IM FIRST says:

    FIRST

  15. Ivan The Floydist says:

    Actually, that shirt says “I still live in my parents basement”.

  16. Champagne and Gunsmoke says:

    I like having Rush’s golden microphone shoved up my ass. It feels good, just as good as wrapping my lips around a huge fleshy object.

  17. What does nobody understand about non-violence?

    • bitter troll says:

      we tried to teach them non-violence, but they attacked us!

    • Jeremy says:

      Jesus obviously was into non-violence. He preached it all the time, especially in his sermon on the mount. He lived it constantly. Which is why this guy’s poster is so baffling to anyone who has actually read the New Testament.

  18. Lister says:

    Lol, Christians… epic hypocrites :-)

  19. RainbowFish says:

    No, He wouldn’t. Because He could if He wanted to. And that guy’s still there.

  20. katya514 says:

    ‘Teabagger’ ?

    Aww, bless OP’s heart, trying so hard to be clever.

    Man, broccoli soup *does* sound good right now…one of the best I’ve had used a bit of cauliflower, too. And there has to be just enough cheese to give it flavor and body, not enough to make it near-spreadable.

  21. Jeremy says:

    Right, nothing says “love your neighbor as yourself” and “blessed are the peacemakers” and “blessed are the merciful” and “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” better than blowing the ever-loving crap outta people with a nuclear bomb. I’m sure Jesus would totally approve this message.

  22. ill Dottore says:

    that caption is just epic!!!!! made me fell of my officechair laughing, with all my colleagues looking at me, thinking i’ve gone nuts!!!

  23. Lancer says:

    A christian nuke-hawk… wow. (nuke-hawks are significantly different from war-hawks in that they’re exceptionally more retarded. They don’t realize that the long-term detriments to using a nuke are not worth petty idealism and that getting rid of our enemies is not worth WW3.

  24. Jennie Smith says:

    If you look at the sign to the left, it looks like it says “this was is about oil.”
    And the only people you can see look like college kids.
    So I think this sign was made by a liberal and was meant as sarcasm.
    So don’t blame the Tea Partiers or Christians!

  25. froofrou the Barenaked Lady says:

    And that makes the Baby Jesus cry.

  26. jean jeannie says:

    LMAO….

  27. Especially the ones with the sheep. That REALLY freaks out Baby Jesus.

  28. Ivan The Floydist says:

    Pretty much the same thing…

  29. I Like Peanut Butter says:

    Why baby jesus?

    B/c that’s who I want to pray to. Baby Jesus, not 30 something dirty bearded jesus.

  30. HelOnWheels says:

    My nephew likes the hippy-looking Jesus. He almost gave his practicing Jewish uncle a heart attack when he said “I like Jesus. He looks really cool.”

  31. I Like Peanut Butter says:

    Buddy Jesus!!!

  32. Ivan The Floydist says:

    Dogma FTW! And it’s Buddy Christ, ain’t it?

  33. the_original_shortright says:

    yep, buddy christ.

  34. Ivan The Floydist says:

    I love that movie.

  35. Mina says:

    Christ didn’t come to Earth to give the willies, he came to help us out. He was a booster!

  36. Rando the Floydist/Beatlist says:

    One of the best movies I’ve ever seen. :D

  37. bitter troll says:

    notice they where fine with paying all the tax’s for bush’s war, the moment obama showed up and asked them to pay the same amount to fix things NOOOO I HATE TAXES!! NO TAXES EVER YOUR SO EVIL OBAMA FOR WANTING ME TO PAY TAXES WAAAWAAAWAAA

  38. Mina says:

    To be fair, there were a lot of convservatives who didn’t like paying taxes for that war either.

  39. ayingel says:

    ^ i agree with mina. i didn’t like bush…don’t like obama either. i just don’t like taxes of any sort. or wars of any sort…yet i still pay them and still support my boyfriend as he completes the contract he signed up for with the promise that there would be no more deployments.
    second off, who said they are tea-baggers? i never saw such a sign at any of the tea parties i went to.
    thirdly, the guy in the photo is a dumbass for saying something like that.


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