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now they are another tragic victim of global warming….
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Preachy and too long. I voted no on this. Would be funnier if there was no snow in the picture at all.
have you finnished complaining?
No I can go on. I want FUNNY damn it. This is not funny. They have snow suits on, there’s snow on the ground, it makes no sense AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! **runs around screaming**
I didn’t find it preachy, per se. I think the point is that they’re wearing skis while standing in puddles. It’s not very funny, but it gave me a very light chuckle.
I thought it was kinda cute, not preachy.
Me, I thought the caption was pretty Swede.
Can we finnish with the puns?
No, there is nor-way we can do that.
These puns are Germain to the picture
Soon, they will be skiing Lapps around us!
If the snow caps melt any more, we’ll need Finns.
We’ll end up viking for the high ground!
It will ussr in a new age.
Oh get to France the lot of you!! I’m not Russian to follow this thread.
Don’t Dutch the yellow snow.
Alas, kan I have cheesburger?
Sure hope you’re not in a Rus.
If you know what it is like to ski, you notice that’s wet snow, barely covering the ground.
It’s a bit preachy, yes, but good jokes can be like that too. This site has many preachy-jokes too.
mighty ? My toilet paper is mightyer.
I believe the Finns spent the better part of WWII fighting a vicious guerilla battle against SOMEBODY… be darned if I remember whether they were killing Russians or Germans, but whichever it was, the invaders learned to respect the Mighty Finn!
It was both sadly. While Russians were “friends” with the Germans they invaded Finland and got their a$$es handed to them. Then came the Germans so the Allies couldn’t use Scandanavia to help support the Soviets.
The Finnish ski troops Kicked A$$ though.
“If my unit was caught between the Germans and the Russians, I’d attack in BOTH directions”
- attributed to Gen George S Patton (who claims he wished he’d said it)
LOL! You said ‘unit’!
Brief history lesson: In WW2, Russia attacked Finland to invade it. Finns asked the Allied Forces for help to defend themselves against the communists, and got nothing. The Russians did not succeed despite that, much to everyone’s surprise (you can check any map of Europe for why that makes the Finnish Military mighty). Towards the end of the war with Russians Finns got some help, weapons, troops, and such, from Germany. After Finns and Russians made peace, the Finns attacked German troops in Finland and chased them out. Finland was never in alliance with Germany or run by Nazis, and while the Allied Forces were busy sending help, weapons and such, to their much valued Russian allies so they could defend themselves against the cruesome Finns (check map again to detect sarcasm) no-one in their right minds can blame the Finns for accepting any and all the help they could get.
Also check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Finland_during_World_War_II
also, look at the Winter War. Short summary here:
At the start of the conflict, the Russians held the initiative and went in with twice as many men, 200 times as many tanks and 30 times as many aircraft.
Finnish losses:
25,904 dead or missing
20–30 tanks
62 aircraft
Russian losses:
126,875 dead or missing
3,543 tanks
261–515 aircraft
Actually it was another case of “The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend”. The Finns would have sided with China, France, the USA, or even the Vatican City, if they were fighting the Russians, but in this case the Germans were, so they got the Finns support. (However for what is said here, the Finns dealt the Russians an extremely bloody nose, even though they were eventually defeated. The Russians were eventually forced (I believe by the United Nations) into accepting the Finns nationality, although they did take land away from the Finns.
Yeah, they took part of Karelia. There are a few groups who want to see Karelia returned to Finland, ProKarelia being one. In the past several years since WW2, it was almost a taboo to consider Russia giving it back, didn’t want to rattle the peace between the two.
Actually Russians did succeeded in conquering Finnland (after the Mannerheim Line has been breached Fins had no defences left and were forced to surrender), although more important matters (ie. preparations for conquering the rest of the world) made Stalin shift changing Finnland into Finnish Soviet Republic onto later date.
How do you define conquer?
Make the invaded one unable to defend and protect own teritory – after the Mannerheim line has been breached Finns were all but defenceless, their tenacity meant absolutely nothing next to lack of defensive positions.
Also, when counting USSR gains of the winter war don’t forget to add Bukowina and Besarabia to the pool, since after Finnland Romania decided there was absolutely no point in defying russians (as they would get what they want no matter the cost) and gave up what was demanded immediately (which was a mistake on Stalin’s part, but that’s another story)
Yes – Finland was all but finished, but the Soviet Union didn’t expend those last resources on actual conquering. Finland was – most probably – beat, but no one dealt them the death blow. Which, to me, is not the same thing as conquering, which was why I asked. Thanks for explaining what you meant.
“Actually Russians did succeeded in conquering Finnland (after the Mannerheim Line has been breached Fins had no defences left and were forced to surrender), although more important matters (ie. preparations for conquering the rest of the world) made Stalin shift changing Finnland into Finnish Soviet Republic onto later date.”
We did lose that war in sense that we had to submit to the Russian demands. But Russians never conquered Finland or occupy it. Also Finnish army didn’t surrender to Russians. This may not seem significant, but there is enormous difference between ex-soviet satelites and allies and Finland.
Finland remained independent nation althought Russia had/has significant effect on forein policy (come to think of it, so does USA, but that is much more discreet).
The neatest bit of it all is where Finland ended up having to pay the Soviet Union, and send workers to their railroads etc. after the war. :p
Nobody CARES, don’t you realise ? Go back to building your igloos.
Actually, they fought both
Oh, really, just like your grammar…?
Fear not, if we don’t have snow, we just attach wheels to our skis. Or those things that make tanks move (whatever is is in English anyway…)
Treads.
Now I’m giggling at the image of ski-treads on all those funny Finnish guys in the picture.
Tracks – Tracks are made of links. Links have a number of components, at least one and frequently 2 or 3 of which are treads.
Oh and Christina, I’ve seen summer training skis with wheels or with tracks on them.
Blarg. I fail. Thanks for the correction.
Get ur ass to finland, bring ur toiletpaper too. FACEPUNCH TIME
In before the climate change deniers show up to shut down the lol…
There’s climate change? Yeah that’s right it did get cooler last year didn’t it?
(Notices a friendly smiley and stifles an Al Gore-like impulse to explain the difference between “climate” and “weather”)
Yes, that’s right. It *did* get colder where you were.
Hell is freezing over?
Only if Al Gore visits.
“Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.” –Terry Pratchett
You know that now they’re saying that the melting ice caps might be a good thing, since it seems to be reflecting heat and whatnot away from the earth….
You’re not living up to your new handle! The ice caps reflect heat; the open water replacing melting ice caps absorbs it. You have it backwards.
Oh, no, you have no idea the things she used to say: “A week has six days” “Democrats eat Republican babies” “Sarah Palin is smarter than both Stephen Hawkings AND a fifth grader”! She’s much better now, I’d say even more than five times more accurate!
(apologies, Froo. I know you only ever believed one of those statements
)
Mark, darling Mark, how right you are
To be perfectly accurate, ice has a higher albedo than water.
Ice has more sex than water? Shocking!
*headdesk*
*grins* My work here is done.
Submarine = phallic symbol
tehe
Now, now. You’re schleiren the lines!
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Ok, so I was wrong about it reflecting heat, but apparently the melting ice caps aren’t exactly a bad thing. So take that, Al Gore!!!
But I still want to know about the ‘whatnot’? Does ice reflect UFOs better or worse than water?
I don’t know about reflecting but it’s easier for the UFOs to hide under the water.
Then why do they keep coming to NM? (Not that the tourism money isn’t great…and at least aliens are real, unlike vampires, right?)
Sparkly aliens?
Better than sparly vampires!
*goes out and kills entire cast of characters of that awful series*
*Grabs Buffy fangirl steak from attic*
Need any help?
Yes!
“…Then Buffy staked Edward. The End.”
I like your rewrite. It makes the story better.
Maybe Spike could then dance on Edward’s dust?!
*drools* Spike. Can I dance with him? Sans clothing?
Look at this. It’s made of awesome!!
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Want, want, want! Santa? Please take notice of that t-shirt!
I wouldn’t mind a dance with Spike, either! But I think maybe dressed. I wouldn’t want his fangs getting ideas!
I’m going to have to get it. Then I can alternate that with my “Vampires don’t sparkle” T- shirt.
It comes in girly sizes too.
SPARKLY! Not sparly. My rage, it makes me mis-type.
Oh, I just thought they were fighting a lot! I don’t know if the aliens are sparkly (or sparly, for that matter). They always leave when scientific types show up. *pouts*
Maybe our logic is vampire-bane?
Logic (and decent cameras) certainly seem to be alien-bane!
And all of those years we thought it was the garlic!
IT’S THE BELGIAN FLAG!!!!!11!!ELEBENTYBUHZILLION!!!
Actually, wouldn’t crossing the pavement on those skis ruin their surface?
I don’t think that’s pavement. It looks like gravel, which I think would be worse. Maybe those are junky “practice” skis and they don’t care if they get ruined?
You just step carefully until you reach the snow — no sliding!! (As my father used to yell when we were *stepping* our cross country skis off the road.)
That makes sense. Never been cross country skiing, is it fun?
It’s sort of a cross between hiking and skiing. If you like hiking, and you know how to dress for exercise in the winter woods, you probably would love it!
I know, I know, viking gal goes cross country skiing–SUCH a typecasting!
At least you typecasted yourself though!
I love skiing and kind of like hiking when I get the chance to. So I’d probably enjoy it. I’d have to go somewhere where it snows though.
Yes, snow is mandatory. Unfortunately, a lot of great cross country skiing places have been over-run by snowmobiles, so you lose any nature experience.
I always loved the absolute dead silence of the woods when out cross country skiing. Plus animals!
Best place to learn is fields — no trees to run into!
Some ski places have cross country trails (ours do), so if you go skiing, you could rent some equipment and try it on the same trip.
I’ll have to give it a try next time I go skiing, which will probably be in a few years. Thanks you guys for the info!
Yeah, Sunny Bono says to avoid the trees.
And now the location for Pundit Kitchen’s latest Sking Trip has been decided. The lucky country is HOLLAND!! Nice and flat and few trees. (Plenty of Dykes though. Well someone has to sit in those windows in the Red Light District
)
[cough] Dutch Ardennes.
I thought I liked it, and then had to do it as part of my teacher training (we have to go through gym class all over again) when you’re forced to skate-ski in old fashioned cross country skiis, it stops being fun.
No. It’s dreadfully dull.
Looks like lawn and mud to me. Perfectly safe for skis.
It`s funny because global warming is a myth.
No, global warming is happening. The debate is over the cause. Man made vs natural cycle.
No… that humans are playing a role in current climate change isn’t under debate either.
Unless by “debate” you mean “agreement among the people who know what they’re talking about, and vociferous objection from nincompoops”.
However, in this case the culprit would appear to be not climate change but snowplows…
Yeah, debate to you means “shut down anyone that doesn’t agree with you.” That and label anyone who doesn’t agree with a bad name.
There are just as many scientists who don’t believe it to be man made as there are who do.
Sorry, JAC, but the numbers don’t support you. The only scientists still opposing the proposition that mankind has affected global climate change are the ones taking money from carbon intensive industries and the ones receiving money from Christian colleges that value political power more than scholarship.
As opposed to the ones taking money from politicians and laundered money through organizations who want the power to dictate people’s lives.
you mean exactly like the ones who want to dictate how everyone lives, ie: christian nation, abortions illegal, marriage only for heteros, and heaven forbid if someone loses their job (or never had medical coverage in the first place)
tell us again who wants to dictate how anyone lives….
Both sides.
And I have spoken about them too. Though I will say I’m against abortion, as it’s the killing of a human being, and not any different than murder.
I’ve also spoken about marriage being a religious term and rite, and one that the govt should have never been involved in.
And I don’t see that insurance is something the Federal govt should be in either. Can we as a society have a social net? YES. And per the 10th Amendment, should be handled by the states.
The ironic thing to me, is the very people who want centralized govt and control are against it when it doesn’t support their point of view.
Actually it hasn’t really been conclusively proved. There’s not been enough research done on other contributing factors such as the sun either getting closer (or hotter) – Explains why the days seem to be getting shorter, increased gravity=increased spin. Or the fact that we are currently in a Glacial Ice Age. As with all things the Ice Age must eventually come to an end at some point (it can’t be in a continuous ice age until **cough** hell freezes over
) and so we might be viewing the end of the last Ice Age. Yes there might be contribuiting factors in human beings, but it doesn’t explain everything. People are looking for a simple answer when the answer just isn’t that simple and the question is even harder.
Sort of like the ones that are proposing man made global warming are taking money from the “Green Alternative” movement. Or liberal think tanks that also have agendas. Sorry Portland, this is not as “mainstream” as the liberal left would like the world to believe. It’s a great scare tactic, especially in movies like “Day after Tomorrow”, “Inconvenient Truth”, etc… but really the “facts” touted can and have been disputed.
Even the left leaning govt of the UK issued a statement about “Inconvenient Truth” and had to tell kids in schools about 9 lies in that film before they could show it to them.
I don’t
Know what happened there! Meant to say I don’t believe in man-made global warming either. Plenty of power-crazed people are jumping on the bandwagon in an attempt to tell people what to do, or to parade their righteousness. Thirty years ago we were told there was a new ice age coming.
Read below statement about Reader’s Digests.
Yes, Reader’s Digest was great for that kind of stuff. My dad used to buy it in the 70s. We were all going to freeze/starve/choke to death unless all mankind got together (under the benevolent leadership of someone or other) and did as we were told. Plus ca change.
“Yeah, debate to you means “shut down anyone that doesn’t agree with you.” That and label anyone who doesn’t agree with a bad name.”
1) Arguing with nincompoops isn’t worth it.
2) I’d skip the name to spare your feelings, but politeness cannot justify dishonesty.
“There are just as many scientists who don’t believe it to be man made as there are who do.”
Not true. Spend a few minutes on Google Scholar.
Actually I tend to lean towards the fact that “Global Warming” (which the mean temperature of the earth has gone down the last two years) is b/c the Earth is the closest it’s been to sun in about 10,000 years. And the lack of “warmer” climates or “hot spots” over major metroplois areas that have higher CO2 output which should in term make that area above the city be warmer tends to make me question Global Warming. Funny how about 15 years ago all it was about was the Ozone layer and how the hole was going to get so big in 15 years that humans would need to waer SPCF 3000 to walk on the surface. (OOPS!!!)
Yeah, I got a collection of Reader’s Digests dating all the way back to 1948 from an antique collection. And there has been a long list of things man is doing to doom the earth, and we must change or we will be dead in 20 years. And funny, they always seem to point to the same basic things, no matter what the doom, or how it’s supposed to come about.
Can you guess what those are?
Ummm….”fvcking sheep?”
No, that’s the death of New Zealand.
Oops, my baaa.
Wool you be sure to not make that mistake next time?
Ewe bet!
I knew you cud do it.
Dear God *facepalm*
Please stop drinking the cool aid. Do a google search for Dr. Martin Hertzberg and get some education please. He’s not the only one proving how wrong the man made global warming lie is, just the one I happen to know of off the top of my head. There are plenty of scientists, etc who disagree with the whole notion. So yes, it IS under debate. I think a retired meteorologist with a PhD in physical chemistry might know at least a little about climate change.
The whole MMGW thing isnt about science. Its about money and power. There is no money for grants disproving the theory, only for those trying to prove it. So if you want money there is only one side to be on. For the govt, its a way to regulate more things and tax/fine the heck out of anyone they can.
“There is no money for grants disproving the theory”
I suggest that you too stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Energy companies, coal mining companies, other carbon intensive industries have spent millions in trying to disprove the MMGW theory. Both sides have spent ridiculous amounts of cash in attempts to disprove each other.
Just because some people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean that they haven’t done the research. Don’t come in here out of the blue and act indignant and superior, douche.
Which is why I said it was debatable.
Regardless of my opinion on MMGW, Gizmo was being an interloping douche and needed to be put in its place.
Agreement there. *sprays Troll-B-Gone*
So having something to do besides sit on here all day every day making comments makes me an interloper on the occasions that I do comment? Ok, whatever.
Apparently informing someone to educate themselves is a douche. Unlike those who call names and attack anyone who disagrees with them.
“Apparently informing someone to educate themselves is a douche”
Yes it is. You have no idea what we know. None. We probably know a fvckload more than you do but you’ll never comprehend that because you think you’re smarter than us.
“attack anyone who disagrees with them”
You have no idea if I disagree with you or not. My stance about this whole discussion was made to show that these things are debatable and that you’re being a conceited troll.
WTF is your problem? My first comment was made to Knot stating that they (I use “they” since I dont know if Knot is male or female) should educate themselves on the subject. Its obvious from “No… that humans are playing a role in current climate change isn’t under debate either. ” that they have only listened to one side and not studied both sides of the matter. Did I call Knot an idiot or stupid or some other name? NO. Did I say that I’m smarter then Knot? NO. I do believe I know more about this particular subject though based on Knots post. I have studied it a lot.
Then you jump all over me and start calling me names for no reason. I never said I was smarter then anyone else on here. And you’re right, I dont have any idea what you know. Based on your comment about the money being spent I would say I have probably studied the financial side of it more then you.
Not sure how any of this makes me conceited or a know it all. I read alot of posts on here about other subjects that many commenters know a lot more then I do. I dont think of them as conceited know it alls, I read what they say and I learn something.
Uhh.. you might want to do more research yourself. Lets take your statement of “millions” for those opposing MMGW, that is a drop in the bucket compared to the BILLIONS for those on the other side. Do some checking on how much is spent for each side. And, btw, those companies you cited are also spending millions advertising “clean” or “green” energy solutions, wonder why that is.
Nice language btw.
Yeah, that “millions” was a typo, it should have been billions.
You’re still a douchey troll.
My job here is done.
The Finns rock. Who else would think of fighting a war on skiis? And it actually worked! The Russians never saw it coming. The Finns dressed in all white and flew down a hill and into russian camps shooting as they went. Then they hid in the dense forests where no one could find them. All the Russians sat there and were like “What the hell just happened???”
“Who else would think of fighting a war on skiis?”
Uuuhhmmm…most countries that get a lot of snow?
*zing!*
Oh, I wasn’t trying to be mean, just a smart-a$$. Should have used one of these
The US had the Green Mountain boys, bunch of fellows from Northern NE (mostly Vermont), and they saw serious action in the Alps. The survivors started the US ski resorts that we have today.
Can’t help thinking of ‘White Christmas’ now..
Actually Mountain Troops have been going on since the year dot. Germany had them in both wars. Austria had them in both Wars. (I believe that even Poland has Mountain Infantry.) Britain has them (kind of!!) but they are either covered by the Royal Marines or the Gurkhas. All you need to have Mountain Infantry is to have something approaching a mountain range in your country. (
Most of Alpine and Eastern Europe (including, ironically, Russia), the rest of Scandanavia; Where do you think most Biathlon teams come from?
I was tried to make a lol about the ice planet Hoth, but gave it up.
Now THAT would have been funny.
Now we have to find a swamp picture and do a Dagobah LOL.
Give me about 48 hours and I can have one for you. Just have to wait till Saturday and drive to the local bayou.
Seriously, just met me know. I have no intention of captioning it, but if someone else wants to, I’ll upload one.
Ok, that failed to embed. *sigh*
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Something you all should see:
What is Normal? Climate Video (Part 1 of 6)
Or directly downloadable from:
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/11/more-ways-to-vi.html
Skepticism is an important part of science, get facts from all sides and make up your own mind.
“Skepticism is an important part of science”
No, it’s not.
Science is not about believing claims, it’s about supporting your claims with evidence and checking the experiments done by others to ensure they’re correct. I don’t need scepticism in science, because everyone is using proper evidence.
Scepticism is something you use in popular media, where statements do not have sources and where facts are hardly ever checked. Popular media is NOT science, it’s entertainment. Peer reviewed papers are science, go read them if you want facts.
“and checking the experiments done by others to ensure they’re correct”
Part of checking experiments by others is trying to prove them wrong. So in this statement you actually agreed with The Skeptic. If someone isnt able to prove the other wrong, then their science is sound. If they are able to then the experiment needs to be re-thought. Its how science works best.
I giggled.
Uhm… For real they were not even close to bringing USSR to its knees. In fact they didn’t even try it, the finnish were defending temselves, that’s all. So read history books before posting dumb crap like this.
While I agree that it’s very, very exaggerated, I think the Soviet command was quite surprised about how hard that articular frontline turned out to be. As in, the Finnish army did defend their country more successfully than expected.
“articular” missed a pee – shoulda been “particular”.
use the boost!
Nearly?…pfft, all the way down
What global warming?
LOL Global warming LOLOL
I think you will find that it was actually Swedish volunteers who kept the Russian bear at bay.
Those are Finnish soldiers getting ready to ski!