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A special shout out to her spelling teacher

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This gal is everywhere

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This funny political picture was posted on Friday, November 27th, 2009 at 6:00 am.

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  1. cgray says:
    November 27, 2009 at 6:16 am

    frist! I mean first. Oh yeah, and Democrats suck a$$.

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    • justacarolinian says:
      November 27, 2009 at 7:10 am

      The only butt sucking I see on this page is you. Now proceed to call me a liberal, I’m sure the liberals will laugh heartily at that.

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      The relationship between self-harm and suicide is a complex one, as self-harm behaviour may be potentially life-threatening, with or without the intent of suicide.[2] However, attributing self harmers as suicidal is, in the majority of cases, inaccurate.[3][4] Non-fatal self-harm is common in young people worldwide[5] and due to this prevalence the term self-harm is increasingly used to denote any non-fatal acts of deliberate self-harm, irrespective of the intention.[6]

      There are a number of different treatments available for self-injurers which concentrate on either treating the underlying causes or on treating the behaviour itself. When self-injury is associated with depression, antidepressant drugs and treatments may be effective.[7] Other approaches involve avoidance techniques, which focus on keeping the self-injurer occupied with other activities, or replacing the act of self-harm with safer methods that do not lead to permanent damage.[8]

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    • theangrylittlebear says:
      November 28, 2009 at 12:51 pm

      Oh, silly cgray. The people that really suck are the ones who can’t see that ALL POLITICAL PARTIES suck a$$. Political parties, no matter which one, each have their own agendas, and that’s all they care about. It doesn’t matter what the American people truly want or need…its all just a big pissing contest over who is in control.

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  2. cgray says:
    November 27, 2009 at 6:19 am

    Amazing how sophisticated liberals always avoid the specifics of a political debate and go straight for the ad hominem. Wonder if it has something to do with the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of their entire ideological foundation.

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  3. Breesus says:
    November 27, 2009 at 6:29 am

    Can anybody explain to me what the sign the girl on the left is carrying (Obama: I want a house in West U) means?

    And I’m sorry cgray, but if these people honestly think that Obama is a socialist and stealing from them, they don’t deserve the time for sophisticated retort. If you want to be taken seriously, at least learn how to spell!

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    • justacarolinian says:
      November 27, 2009 at 7:13 am

      Cgray is a troll, that much is obvious. Now, don’t pretend that there aren’t those on the left who make spelling errors. Would you call it a typo when it’s a handwritten sign?
      It would seem to me that the left often uses professional, preprinted signs, and those on the right make them on their own.

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      • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
        November 27, 2009 at 7:47 am

        IMO froth is froth. It seems the frothier the protester, the more spelling mistakes involved. On EITHER side.

        BUT! I take umbrage to your sign making assumption; many on the right have pre-printed signs. Remember “Bury Obamacare with Kennedy”?

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        • justacarolinian says:
          November 27, 2009 at 7:55 am

          I agree, froth is froth. I would say, and did, that I see a much higher degree of preprinted signs coming from the left.
          I would dare to say that there are just as many educated people on both sides of the isle, just as there are just as many uneducated people on both sides of the isle.
          I would also say that even educated people make spelling errors. And even some people have been working jobs where they don’t get to use the written language, and are simply out of practice. This would apply to the country hick as much as the urbanite.

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          • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
            November 27, 2009 at 9:45 am

            Actually, you said “those on the right make them on their own”. Nothing about a higher degree.

            Also, ignorance is no excuse. For anything. Try breaking a law you didn’t know anything about. You’ll still be arrested, and the judge will say “Ignorance is no excuse. Learn the law.”

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            • justacarolinian says:
              November 27, 2009 at 9:53 am

              Ok, as a rule of thumb, I have said that the right most often makes them. Though I will admit that there has been a lot of printed ones since the teabaggers have arrived. You think those on the right are tired of their spelling mistakes being blasted on the news and internet while those on the left so often get ignored?

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              • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                November 27, 2009 at 10:03 am

                Nah, I just think there aren’t as many mistakes on the left, as we are the “elitist scum” and tend to be higher educated. *zing*

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                • justacarolinian says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 10:09 am

                  Let me axe you sumtin…..

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                  • MikeHunt says:
                    November 27, 2009 at 11:00 am

                    Do dis be my Harvard degree?

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                    • charro says:
                      November 27, 2009 at 12:23 pm

                      You know what GED stands for? Good Enough Diploma…

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                      • justacarolinian says:
                        November 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm

                        You want fries with that?

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                        • Bitter's Chef says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 4:22 pm

                          No, no, a PhD asks “Do you want fries with that?”

                        • justacarolinian says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 4:59 pm

                          Moan bak!

                        • Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 8:17 pm

                          That’s nonsense, bitter. A PhD would at least get to be an assistant manager. The people with Masters Degrees run the drive thru.

                        • froofrou the fabulous says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 8:18 pm

                          Of course the manager is a guy who dropped out of school midway through the 9th grade, has greasy hair, and a condescending attitude…

                        • Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 8:58 pm

                          Of course. Experience is what moves you up these days, not education. And since he’d been working there for the last 15 years, he gets to be manager, a position of great respect and oh, I almost said that with a straight face.

                        • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                          November 27, 2009 at 10:52 pm

                          *hands Rando a tissue (pronounced tiss-you)*

                          Here you go, you may need this..

                        • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 11:15 am

                          * Watches the Simpson’s. (See link in name.)*
                          *Thinks of last 4 years. *
                          * Thinks of working fast food again. * *Shudders*
                          *Thinks of another 4 years of grad school* *shakes violently*

                        • viking gal says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 11:20 am

                          No, you’re all wrong. A Ph.D. can piece together 4 or 5 part-time college teaching jobs, for no benefits, and a salary a bit above fast food. With no benefits, of course. Did I say no benefits? But at least there is no deep fat fryer involved!
                          I gather that Staples and Starbucks offer benefits to part-time employees…(something I keep track of, after those 7 years I did as part-time faculty/part-time grad student).

                        • Default User says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 1:16 pm

                          Borders also gives benefits to part time employees and you may be able to order some of your text books from work and use the employee discount on them to boot.

                        • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 1:22 pm

                          At my job I get full health coverage, that being health/dental/life for the low low price of $250 every week.
                          Oh… and I get doughnuts…. lots of free doughnuts…

                        • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 1:33 pm

                          I am not really complaining about grad school (I am nearly done) . I have somewhat safe pay (just above poverty measures) and pretty good health care. The economic downturn has added a new twist though, as many badly paid research and teaching assistants are *not being renewed* the following year. They aren’t ‘firing’ anyone, their jobs just cease to exist. An interesting implication of the recession is that there is a lagged response in academia in some states, since decreased tax revenues don’t directly factor into this years budget too much, but strongly impact next year’s budgets. This seems to impact graduate student employment more than others at least at my university.

                          Saying this, I am feeling remorse for my fellow grad students more than for myself. My position seems to be safe for the moment (my wife’s, not so much).

                          Getting back on topic, I know a number of people with masters degrees working in restaurants, but no PhDs. I guess that is what post-docs are for. I guess that one also can’t pay back one’s student loans on fast food wages

                        • Default User says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 5:56 pm

                          Just started about three or four years ago Jane. Sorry :(

                        • viking gal says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 6:09 pm

                          Post-docs are a form of indentured servant. Which is why I did the adjunct instructor route. I really didn’t want my advisor to also be my boss…which I could get away with, since my parents were helping with tuition (thank you, parents!!!).
                          @bitter wino. Make sure that your post-doc includes sell-able skills–teach some, also do library or lab work. That way you can be flexible if the university job market still svcks when you get out there. And good luck!

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 6:15 pm

                          You all make me so glad that my husband and I did our graduate work long ago when a normal person could actually afford a state university. (Tuition at the University of Texas system was $500 PER YEAR when we went there. I think it’s around $18-20K now, and since I doubt TA salaries have gone up much from the $10K we received….)

                          Of course, it helps if you choose fields that make you employable outside academia. :)

          • Default User says:
            November 27, 2009 at 10:00 am

            Agreed. Writing is barely part of my job, and that is usually nothing more than the occasional sentence, if even that. Though reading is hugely important. I have very poor spelling, you probably wouldn’t want to read my posts if it weren’t for firefoxes built in spellchecker (which is actually helping to improve my spelling). It just seems that if you’re going to make a protest sign you should take the time to pull out a dictionary and double check your spelling, or have a friend proof read it for you.

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            • justacarolinian says:
              November 27, 2009 at 10:05 am

              Yeppers. I luvs my spell check. And like you, I have found that it has helped me improve, and have taken an effort lately to work on expressing my thoughts better.
              Bottom line, we all need proofreaders. Even Hillary had a big flub at an event. I don’t remember exactly what it was, but I do remember it.

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      • mabsba says:
        November 27, 2009 at 9:12 am

        You know, you say this (about the pre-printed signs) every time there’s a lol with a hand-written sign. We get it. You think the lefties use more printed signs. Obviously not everyone agrees with you (I think it’s about equal), but we get it. Sheesh.

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        • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
          November 27, 2009 at 9:48 am

          He also claims he’s not a conservative, then he carry’s the GOP party line. Almost every time he “gets into it” with anyone, it is mostly the conservative side he’s arguing for. Just sayin’.

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          • justacarolinian says:
            November 27, 2009 at 9:54 am

            I don’t carry the GOP party line. And you know that. I have smacked the GOP as much as I have the DNC. Just sayin’.

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            • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
              November 27, 2009 at 10:04 am

              Not so much there, JAC. I hardly EVER see you smack a conservatroll.

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              • justacarolinian says:
                November 27, 2009 at 10:05 am

                Where have you been the last few days?

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                • viking gal says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 10:28 am

                  I noted–justa was doing some righteous smacking. And those were some pretty gnarly trolls, too!

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                  • PortlandMark says:
                    November 28, 2009 at 12:51 pm

                    Yeah, give JAC his due- his politics are regrettably conservative, but he knows how to handle those who can’t behave like adults here!

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                    • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                      November 28, 2009 at 12:53 pm

                      And he drinks tea. He can’t be all that bad. ;)

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm

                        Suddenly I have the urge for some of that Blueberry tea. You want one?

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                        • viking gal says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:28 pm

                          Thanks, but I just brewed some lemon zinger. Would you like a slice of non-lie cake? Apple and cherry, with doctor-disapproved amounts of butter?

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:36 pm

                          Mmmmmm, Apple! And don’t worry about the butter. My BP is high, not my cholesterol.
                          Besides, I don’t believe in margarine. How many foods do you know that can be left in the trunk of a car for a year, and when you return, it will be the same?

                        • Default User says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:43 pm

                          Twinkie, Spam, Bisquick…That’s about it, even bottled water goes bad after to long(don’t believe me? leave some bottled water in the car for a few years and then try drinking it)
                          Oh, and Dr. pepper will actually improve, I’ve found it’s best to drink it about three months after the expiration date :D

                        • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:52 pm

                          Oh my gods *drools* I want some cake..

                        • viking gal says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 4:00 pm

                          I definitely don’t want a twinkie or 3 year old water, thank you! The cake recipe was from an old NYTimes article–they ‘improved’ it, I liked the old one with my own improvements. No oil–buttah! 1/2 whole wheat flower. dried cherries rather than raisins. kept the walnuts, though.
                          *cuts up cake, and hands out chunks to everyone* Enjoy!

                        • Default User says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 4:01 pm

                          Mmmmm, this will keep me happy on the bus ride to work. nomnomnomnomnom

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm

                          I’m getting fatter just reading this thread. MMMMMMMMM

                        • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:12 am

                          Last night I bought a box of coconut chai tea. I was thinking that I’d drank most of my friend’s vanilla red and owed her a box. When I hooked back up with my friends they were in the alcohol aisle. We ended up brewing very strong tea and mixing Kahlua and milk with it. Yummmmmy.

                    • Justacarolinian says:
                      November 28, 2009 at 3:22 pm

                      “regrettably conservative”

                      *sigh* I believe in sticking with the Constitution……

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                      • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                        November 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm

                        Some of your views tend towards the conservative that have nothing to do with the Constitution.

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                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 5:42 pm

                          Such as?

                        • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 5:55 pm

                          I dunno, I just assumed that’s what he meant. I’d have to research your views to get any more in depth.

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:12 pm

                          I understood what he meant, but I was pointing out that a lot of people are assuming about me. That and I get the idea that those on the left think that everyone who speaks about States vs Fed is automatically a rightwing nutjob.

                        • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:52 pm

                          *shocked* You mean that’s not true?

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:55 pm

                          *snerk*

                        • PortlandMark says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:22 am

                          I’m sorry JAC, but I don’t buy the idea that the States are supposed to be little independent regimes loosely governed by a weak federal system. The South blew up the “State’s Rights” argument, for me, when they asserted it gave them the right to own human beings. There are states, today, where I’m sure a majority could be found to support an American Taliban that would institute a true Old Testament set of laws that would criminalize a lot of private behavior, and I find that to be wrong, wrong, wrong. If you’re really concerned about defending the constitution, don’t stop with the Second and Tenth Amendments. I’d like to see the First (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” especially) and the Fourth (particularly with regard to warrantless wiretapping) (and Obama has let me down by continuing that trashy bit of operations) receive the attention they deserve.

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:42 am

                          Mark, let me first say that it wasn’t about owning other humans. That’s just the excuse that was used. Keep in mind that the emancipation proclamation didn’t free the slaves. Only a certain few. And that one of the worst offenders of the Fed/Vs States was a southerner, Andrew Jackson.
                          I also agree with you about the establishment of religion. A lot of those who are foolish enough to want an official govt religion are not wise enough to realize that someone who doesn’t share their beliefs will sooner or later get in power.

                      • mabsba says:
                        November 28, 2009 at 6:30 pm

                        Sorry I’ve been away. Had to go burn our copy of the Constitution so I could keep my liberal card. :)
                        Guess I don’t have to burn our flag since I’d have to find the jerk who stole it first.

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                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:38 pm

                          See if you can find the jerk who stole my GPS and jump box, while you are at it. Punk also got my inverter and cell phone charger, as they were all on the same power cord.
                          Oh, and a lot of those lib ideals could be done on a local level, and still be legal.

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:49 pm

                          Well, considering that our last self-proclaimed ‘conservative’ president brought the federal government into the historically most state-run institutions, I don’t find restraint of the federal government remotely within the ‘conservative’ playbook. (Since you have children in school, you must be aware of the NCLB, not only the greatest federal interference in states’ affairs, but one of the worst things to ever happen to public schools.)

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:54 pm

                          You’ll find most who are conservative, but not necessarily Republican, started jumping the GW ship with the NCLB act. And I also think that GW got the nod simply because there wasn’t a real conservative to fill the job.
                          Throw in a lot of people on the right that should know about limited govt, but think it’s ok for govt to have the power to enforce their ideals (drugs, sexuality, ect..) and they seem to forget it. Seems a lot of people on both sides of the isle confuse law with morals.

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:58 pm

                          Not here at least (I can’t speak for anywhere else). There were lots of people who continued to think that the sun shone out of GW’s arse long after the NCLB disaster.

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 7:04 pm

                          Oh definitely. NCLB was just the start, and it was like a small spark created by rubbing 2 sticks together, with a desperate breath trying to get the fire started.
                          And there are still those who worship at the throne, as noted either on this page, or the one before. (Or maybe it was after. Poor Jim)
                          I still don’t think GW will turn out to be the disaster that some make him out to be, but he certainly wasn’t conservative in the dictionary definition. But that has been fading for some time. And I do recall that he defined himself as a “compassionate conservative.”

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 7:45 pm

                          Um, I may be wrong, but I believe that was Bush #1′s self-definition.

                          Oops. found a Declaration of Independence. ‘Spose I will have to burn that also.

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 7:48 pm

                          *headdesk*
                          “S’pose” of course. Now I will have to turn in my English degree. :(

                        • suicide_the_blonde says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 8:35 pm

                          “I still don’t think GW will turn out to be the disaster that some make him out to be”

                          Justa, ARE YOU FCUKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!? You don’t think GW will TURN OUT to be a disaster? As though the verdict isn’t already out on that point. You know, you may feel that some pigeonhole you as more right-wing than you think you are, but it’s statements like that one that make people see you that way.

                        • mabsba says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 8:45 pm

                          Oh, come on. What’s a piddling $10 trillion debt? :wink:

                        • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:14 am

                          Obama’s fault. Clearly.

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:47 am

                          I didn’t say he was good, just that he’s not teh ebil, as some people say he is.
                          And debt is one of the reasons many people turned on him. GW had excuses for it, and so does BO. Both of them are wrong.

                        • viking gal says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 8:48 am

                          I know a family of born again Christians (‘the brethren’ is their flavor) who see GWB as ‘their’ president. Because of his publicly stated religious beliefs, he can do no wrong in their eyes. Which frightens me. I just can’t see how being born again can cause a person to become other than human, and humans are fallible creatures!
                          (I can see how making a choice to be a moral person can cause one to be a better human…but one is still human!)

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 9:18 am

                          I’ve met people like that. And they are scary. I think “We the People” need to stop making Demi-Gods out of our leaders.

                        • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 10:14 am

                          Can we start with getting rid of that whole “Liberals think Obama is the messiah” talking point?
                          I know me and my people are still waiting for a Messiah… but I highly doubt it was a black guy with a nice suit…

                        • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 11:54 am

                          Personally, mine is Alanis Morrisette, but she needs Alan Rickman to do her talking for her.

                        • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 11:55 am

                          “See, I told you she’s funny!”

                        • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 6:04 pm

                          Janie! Dogma FTW!!!

              • justacarolinian says:
                November 27, 2009 at 10:09 am

                By the way, look at the very first comment on this page. Just sayin’.

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                • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 10:12 am

                  There’s one in a row!

                  Actually, I said “hardly EVER”, which does not imply “never”.

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                  • justacarolinian says:
                    November 27, 2009 at 10:17 am

                    And how many times have I given Jim a stiff upper lip? When he gets trollish, he gets called on it. Though some beat me to it. And if you look back, there are more.

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                    • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                      November 27, 2009 at 1:44 pm

                      Not a good example. jim is consistently trollish. ;)

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                      • viking gal says:
                        November 27, 2009 at 1:49 pm

                        I’d disagree there. Jim has put up a few lighthearted posts in the past week. A couple even made me laugh. And his first post on the Abraham Lincoln so-called-lol was positively restrained.
                        I think such efforts should be recognized, more so than the froth. Does that make me a starry-eyed cynic?

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                      • jim says:
                        November 28, 2009 at 7:18 am

                        Well, you are probably not talking about me , but what makes one a troll? I never encountered the term prior to pk, but it doesn’t seem to be a good thing…..

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                        • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 9:12 am

                          Go to Wikipedia and look up “internet troll”. *shudders* More information than any one person needs.

        • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
          November 27, 2009 at 9:58 am

          I just don’t understand why it matters. Is using Kinko’s elitist?

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          • justacarolinian says:
            November 27, 2009 at 10:02 am

            There are some who make the claim that it’s only the rich elite who are brainwashing the people on the right to carry a prefabricated message for them. Insinuating that the people on the right are incapable of coming up with their own ideas, or have simply become pawns of the machine.

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            • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
              November 27, 2009 at 10:09 am

              I insinuate nothing! I come right out and SAY it. ;)

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            • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
              November 27, 2009 at 10:09 am

              I’m still not clear how it relates to pre-printed vs. handmade signs. Bear with me, I’ve been sick and I may have had too high a brandy to cider ratio last night. ;)

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              • justacarolinian says:
                November 27, 2009 at 10:14 am

                Grassroots movement = Handmade signs
                Manipulation by the man = Preprinted signs

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                • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 10:18 am

                  That makes no sense at all. You said that some people claim that the rich elite are brainwashing the right, but by saying the left have pre-printed signs you’re saying that the left are the ones brainwashed. Which is it?

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                  • justacarolinian says:
                    November 27, 2009 at 10:24 am

                    Ok, here we go again. There are people on the top of both piles manipulating the common man, whether it is the rich elite big business righties or the big machine of the left.
                    Therefore “manipulation by the man.” From either side.
                    The most recent accusations are that the big business are feeding the teabag protests, and it’s not a representation of the average American.

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                    • viking gal says:
                      November 27, 2009 at 10:40 am

                      Also George Soros, that guy who started the public referendum rules in California (whose name obviously escapes me), the LDS and Catholic churches, Clear Channel (who let them have so many radio stations?!?), Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch….

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                    • bitter wino says:
                      November 28, 2009 at 8:47 am

                      Although there are clearly leaders of the right and the left, I think that you would be providing too much credit to the disorganized left by saying they are being controlled by a ‘big machine’. The left and democrats in general have been a broad coalition of diverse interests since at least the 1960s. The left, and not necessarily the groups endorsed by the democratic party, have been involved in protest politics for a long time as well. I would argue that for the most part, the semblance of organization in democratic protests comes from experience, not explicit manipulation by elites. Well made signs don’t come from elites, they come from experience and preparation.

                      I was never under the impression that ‘big business’ was feeding the teabag protests. I was under the impression that certain members of the Fox News crew were feeding the tea baggers. The tea baggers are certainly not a representation of the average American. It is a representation of a certain sub-group of Americans that mostly voted or would have against Obama to begin with.

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                      • justacarolinian says:
                        November 28, 2009 at 9:01 am

                        The majority of the liberals I have talked too, would tell you plainly that Fox News is the manifestation of big business.
                        And I guess you don’t consider the Rainbow Coalition or NAACP and such a big machine. Never mind George Sorros, as VG pointed out.
                        I also suppose that you didn’t hear the news reports that the insurance companies were providing transportation, signs, and even paying some of the protesters at the teabag rallies. I don’t know to what degree it was true, but I don’t see that as any different than any company supporting a movement. It was, by the left, labeled as a bunch of stupid gun toting hicks that were pawns of the big insurance and big pharma.
                        And I hate to break it to you, and I know this may be hard on you, but BO’s approval is slipping. Steadily.

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                        • viking gal says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 10:38 am

                          Up here in the lefty northeast, I have to admit that I have never seen evidence of MoveOn.org, Soros, the Rainbow Coalition, the NAACP or such groups in action. I have seen MassPIRG and GreenPeace fundraisers in my neighborhood. I have of course had the candidate robot phonecalls (do they actually work on anyone?). But none of the other groups have either mailed or phoned me to try and raise money or votes… Which makes me think that Soros is a west-coast phenomenon, and that the other groups are perhaps ‘medium business’?
                          Except of course for Clear Channel, who is teh ebil!

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:17 pm

                          Yeah VG, there are different groups, depending on where you are in the good ole US of A. And that goes for right or left parties.
                          And yes, Clear Channel is about as bad as LOLSpeak.

                        • Default User says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 3:37 pm

                          LOLspeak is like alcohol, it’s fine in moderation, as long as you use it on the appropriate places, but if you over use it you’re going to have a splitting headache the next morning. Clear Channel is like heroin laced with bleach and should be avoided at all times.

                        • viking gal says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 4:01 pm

                          If you are headed my way, I will provide you with the clear-channel-free radio channels beforehand. Promise!

                        • Justacarolinian says:
                          November 28, 2009 at 6:01 pm

                          Ok, I just don’t have the gusto this late in the evening to deal with your entire post. I do find it odd you refer to collaboration of the left in one way, but another for the tea party attendees. You did address that the left has more practice at it, which is true, but left out that there is some kind organization putting the message together. And it’s almost sarcastic to say that you missed the meeting. Neither side is that obvious, though there is professional organization on both sides.

                        • bitter wino says:
                          November 29, 2009 at 7:53 am

                          Fair enough. It was intended to be sarcastic- should have noted it. Both sides do have professionals. Honestly, I don’t know anyone actively involved in the tea bag protests and thus I will defer to those with greater first hand experience of its organization (I was a little tired and maybe a little drunk when I typed the last post.) You got the main point (I took too long to get at) that orderly protest/ spell-checked signs probably come from experience.

                • Rattus says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 11:06 am

                  Actually, knee-jerk reactionary = not enough time to have signs spell-checked and printed.
                  Well thought out and organized = time to have signs spell-checked, printed and distributed amongst the protestors

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              • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                November 27, 2009 at 10:16 am

                I mean, wouldn’t claiming that the right have handmade signs support the supposition that they’re being brainwashed by the rich elite? (which is completely untrue, btw, everyone knows they’re brainwashed at church first.) ;)

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                • Sigma says:
                  November 27, 2009 at 4:44 pm

                  Of course their brainwashed by the church first, of course teh Jews are funding teh whole operation, and teh Ebil Muslims recruit the ‘frothy’ and ‘loony’ conservatives to spread their ‘blather.’ It’s all a conspiracy for the Buddhists to gain world domination through a Nuclear holocaust and Native Americans to create a totally industrialized world where there is no hope for sunlight and happiness. God help us all – oh, they GOT ME!! *blarg*

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          • Rattus says:
            November 27, 2009 at 10:03 am

            Yes it is. Not handmaking things (including custard from scratch, my sister informs me) is purview of lazy intellectual types who know how to locate a printshop using only the the yellow pages and an ability to read.

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            • bad fairie says:
              November 27, 2009 at 10:21 am

              think she’d fry a few brain cells if she took into account all the left-leaning, tree-hugging, hippie types who try to make as much as possible from scratch?

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              • Sigma says:
                November 27, 2009 at 4:36 pm

                Has ANYONE noticed the sign to the right? Either it’s a pre-printed banner or someone is really fracken good at making signs.

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                • FaileV says:
                  November 28, 2009 at 8:14 am

                  It’s a preprinted flag. It was a flag flown before the battle of Gonzales by Texans during the Texan revolution. wiki entry linked

                  I’m not really sure why it is here. My best guess was something about Obama trying to take guns from people, but personally i find that to be a shallow interpretation so I’m most likely wrong.

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    • paws4thot says:
      November 27, 2009 at 7:23 am

      I can guess that it translates as “I want a house in an area I can’t afford”!

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    • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
      November 27, 2009 at 8:45 am

      The closest I can think of is that it’s a reference to bailout money? Who knows.

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    • Trey says:
      November 27, 2009 at 7:47 pm

      To your West U question: Given the “Come and Take It” canon flag (a super badass flag here in the lovely state of Texas), I gander that the protest is taking place in Texas (surprise?). I think she is referring to a house in West University, an upper class neighborhood in Houston. It’s one of the wealthiest spots in the city, with most homes being valued at over a million bucks.

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      • mabsba says:
        November 27, 2009 at 11:16 pm

        Interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that type of sign at a leftie rally — someone whining about wanting a totally unnecessary over-priced possession. They were all whining about wanting totally necessary over-priced health care.

        Oh, wait, I forgot. We can just all go to emergency room! *runs to ER to have a strep test done for about 100 times the cost in a doctor’s office*

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        • mabsba says:
          November 28, 2009 at 8:13 pm

          Oooo! *runs to Rando’s hospital room with flowers, but he’s already been discharged and is wandering the streets*

          Tomorrow’s headline: New jobs created by lack of health care reform: Posse for finding Rando!

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        • Default User says:
          November 29, 2009 at 12:27 am

          See, you’re doing the whole emergency room trip all wrong. Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time I was friends with two guys who decided to get drunk and break a glass door. One was smart and broke his half of the door by kicking it with his steel toed boots. The other one wasn’t so bright, he broke his hand punching the glass, and the police took him to the hospital. Sadly he wasn’t carrying any ID and the police weren’t watching him. He was told by the nurse the next morning to stop by the front desk to fill out his discharge papers before he left. He didn’t. Free emergency room visit AND he didn’t go to jail. The moral of this story is: If you want free health care, get drunk and do something stupid?

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        • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
          November 29, 2009 at 8:50 am

          Ah, but did you know that a bad credit score can affect your ability to get auto insurance?

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          • mabsba says:
            November 29, 2009 at 10:09 am

            Heck, move to NM. I believe about half our drivers don’t have any insurance anyway! Which may explain why I pay more for auto insurance in NM than I did in San Diego!

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  4. Gaurh says:
    November 27, 2009 at 9:01 am

    He the Garndmatser of of teh Theif Guidl °_°

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  5. Your Lord And Master Foamy says:
    November 27, 2009 at 9:32 am

    When will people learn? It’s “I BEFORE E EXCEPT AFTER C.” with the exception of words where “I” is pronounced like “A” in words like Neighbour and weigh.

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  6. Kn0wledge1ne says:
    November 27, 2009 at 9:36 am

    The Kingdom of Belgium is a country in northwest Europe. It is a founding member of the European Union and hosts its headquarters, as well as those of other major international organizations, including NATO. Belgium covers an area of 30,528 square kilometres (11,787 sq mi) and has a population of about 10.7 million.

    Straddling the cultural boundary between Germanic and Latin Europe, Belgium is home to two main linguistic groups, the Flemish and the French-speakers, mostly Walloons, plus a small group of German-speakers. Belgium’s two largest regions are the Dutch-speaking region of Flanders in the north, with 59% of the population, and the French-speaking southern region of Wallonia, inhabited by 31%. The Brussels-Capital Region, officially bilingual, is a mostly French-speaking enclave within the Flemish Region and has 10% of the population. A small German-speaking Community exists in eastern Wallonia. Belgium’s linguistic diversity and related political and cultural conflicts are reflected in the political history and a complex system of government.

    The name ‘Belgium’ is derived from Gallia Belgica, a Roman province in the northernmost part of Gaul that was inhabited by the Belgae, a mix of Celtic and Germanic peoples. Historically, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg were known as the Low Countries, which used to cover a somewhat larger area than the current Benelux group of states. From the end of the Middle Ages until the 17th century, it was a prosperous centre of commerce and culture. From the 16th century until the Belgian revolution in 1830, many battles between European powers were fought in the area of Belgium, causing it to be dubbed the battleground of Europe—a reputation strengthened by both World Wars. Upon its independence, Belgium eagerly participated in the Industrial Revolution and, at the end of the nineteenth century, possessed several colonies in Africa. The second half of the 20th century was marked by the rise of communal conflicts between the Flemings and the Francophones fuelled by cultural differences on the one hand and an asymmetrical economic evolution of Flanders and Wallonia on the other hand. These still-active conflicts have caused far-reaching reforms of the formerly unitary Belgian state into a federal state.

    The theif is Belgian!!!!!1111!!!!!111!!!!

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  7. RoyBatty says:
    November 27, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Which begs the perennial question: does one have to be idiot to buy into the tea-bagging inanity or does it just help?

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    • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
      November 27, 2009 at 9:50 am

      Insanity helps ALOT.

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      • justacarolinian says:
        November 27, 2009 at 9:55 am

        Or Greenpeace, PETA, ect….

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        • Default User says:
          November 27, 2009 at 10:05 am

          Sea Kittens! They’re cute and cuddly dammit! Though would anyone like some landfish for lunch?

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        • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
          November 27, 2009 at 10:10 am

          Tote it, baby!

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          • froofrou the fabulous says:
            November 27, 2009 at 8:48 pm

            Just because.

            Oh wait, is that not a good excuse anymore? Dammit, my mother lied to me….

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          • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
            November 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm

            Maybe Justa’s a Libra?

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            • Default User says:
              November 27, 2009 at 11:07 pm

              Libraism is a Cancer in todays society!

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            • Justacarolinian says:
              November 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm

              Maybe I’m tired of wading through the bullstuffings, and I would really like to get to the heart of things.

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              • Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
                November 28, 2009 at 4:53 pm

                And I’m tired of playing nicey nice all the time. Sometimes I just wanna say what I feel without having to say “but the liberals do this too so everyone sucks equally.” I don’t believe everyone sucks equally.

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                • Justacarolinian says:
                  November 28, 2009 at 5:54 pm

                  I don’t believe they suck equally, but I do think it’s dishonest to call someone or something wrong when your team is just as guilty.
                  We’re not talking about differences of opinions, but rather when people are complaining about the wrongs of those who differ. It’s like a a fat man lecturing another fat man for overeating. In other words, it’s hypocritical. Some keep claiming it’s ok because Fox News claims to be fair and balanced, yet the other networks claim the same thing, they just don’t advertise it so promptly.

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                  • Default User says:
                    November 29, 2009 at 12:33 am

                    We don’t suck equally! I suck a hell of a lot better than those sluts on the right!

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                    • dissimilitude says:
                      November 29, 2009 at 9:42 am

                      Oh, now, I don’t know about that. I’ve been told I’m very talented in that area.

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:04 am

                        Hmmm… sounds to me like we need a “Suck-off!”
                        Contestants please sign up on the register here…
                        *presents a sheet of paper*
                        And I don’t think we’ll have a shortage of judges…

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                      • dissimilitude says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:53 am

                        Well, I think it’d have to be done like the “walk-off” in Zoolander. Which means David Bowie gets to judge. ;-)

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:15 am

                        Sorry, Bowie and I are busy on the set of “Labyrinth 2″. We’re working closely with Zombie Henson and can’t be disturbed ;-)

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                      • viking gal says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:16 am

                        But, but, ‘Bowie’s in space’!…?

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                      • Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:58 am

                        I guess you don’t get to be a judge at our Suck-Off, Max dear. Unless you can find time in your busy schedule…

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm

                        Well if Bowie’s the judge and he and I are in the same double wide on set, I think the Suck-off will have to come us.. isn’t that right Bowie?

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                      • David Bowie says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm

                        That’s perfectly, right Max!

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                      • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm

                        Bowie’s in spa-a-ace
                        Whatcha doin’ out there man?

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:04 pm

                        And in the instance that we have a greedy competitor, I will volunteer to be a run-off judge…

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:04 pm

                        And who’s a dumbass with two thumbs who forgot to switch his email? This guy! *points to self*

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:08 pm

                        Is anyone else a little unnerved that I instigate a “suck-off” and I’m the male in the thread more interested in it than a Fox News/MSNBC debate?
                        But David and I will just have to roll with the…. blows *snickers* and judge this to best of our ability.

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                      • bitter troll the belgien flag!!!111!!!111!1!! says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:09 pm

                        not really….and afterwards can you say” what a lovely tea party”

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:10 pm

                        Ah bitter, I do love you my friend!
                        *reach around*

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:32 pm

                        Oh you went and screwed it up, I’m not laughing too hard to use any motor skills. Not to mention I’ve got tears in my eyes and can’t see what I’m doing.

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                      • bitter troll the belgien flag!!!111!!!111!1!! says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:36 pm

                        your not laughing?

                        -bitter ponder-

                        so what are you doing?…is it a pantless game?

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer in David Bowie's trailer on set says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:44 pm

                        I’m now* NOW laughing too hard.. see!?

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                      • bitter troll the belgien flag!!!111!!!111!1!! says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:53 pm

                        never expected the captain lou sex jokes to be that funny…course with him being dead now that can add a touch of humor to it

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                      • Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 1:22 pm

                        Well played, bitter troll.
                        Contrary to what you believe, not everyone in Hollywood is homosexual.
                        How about this deal? He sucks my dick while you watch and jerk off?
                        …
                        All right.

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                      • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 5:09 pm

                        *shows up for suck-off*

                        *Sees weird kinky bitter-Max-Rando weirdness*

                        *turns around and goes home*

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                  • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                    November 29, 2009 at 8:53 am

                    Oh, will you just STFU about Fox news? We know! You aren’t defending them. Except when you’re defending them!

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                    • Justacarolinian says:
                      November 29, 2009 at 9:25 am

                      You know what? Take the chip off your shoulder and shove it so far up your butt till your breath smells like it. You are such a hee haww jackass hypocrite about that.
                      And that’s the reason I speak up about it.

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                  • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                    November 29, 2009 at 8:55 am

                    Oh, and I’ll really need to see where MSNBC claims to be “fair & balanced”. They’re left, and proud of it.

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                    • Justacarolinian says:
                      November 29, 2009 at 9:26 am

                      I like to see a cite on MSNBC saying they are left. I have seen where they say they are unbiased Journalists.

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:08 am

                        I’ve got an idea…
                        WHO GIVES A RAT’S ASS!?!?!?!?!
                        Good lord… you two… go to separate ends of the thread and I swear to god I so much as see you take a step towards reply snarkily to each other I’m shoving your faces in it and swatting you with a rolled up magazine… A rolled up copy of “The Inquirer” no less!
                        So just… cut… it…. out

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                      • mabsba says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:10 am

                        Aw…thank you, Max. *leftover chocolate cream pie for Max!*

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                      • Big Daddy Ivan The Shortrightist says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:37 am

                        I just looked at the site, and did some searches, and can’t find where it says “unbaised” anywhere. Proof, or it didn’t happen.

                        Max, sorry bud, but I’m tired of shutting up and letting him have the last word (yes, I usually give up before he does. I have a life). This one I’m going to be a bulldog about, because he’s creating things out of thin air, and swearing it as fact. If the conversation bothers you, skip over it.

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:40 am

                        Oh Ivan, I guess you put your stupid hat on today. They make the claim to be journalists. I just don’t see where they say they are left and proud.

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:48 am

                        And HEY! What do you know. I looked at their site too. Guess what I found? “MSNBC is one of the most honored online news organizations. We combine breaking news, original journalism, extensive sources, advanced technology, and expansive content to provide our readers ‘A Fuller Spectrum Of The News’”
                        I couldn’t cut and paste it, as it’s in a flash window.
                        Here’s the link {http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21697053/welcome/}
                        Sounds an awful lot like “Fair and Balanced” to me.

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                      • dissimilitude says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 10:57 am

                        I’m going with Max on this one….

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                      • mabsba says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:09 am

                        Sheesh. Max is right, but I can understand Ivan’s argument: no where in JAC’s post from MSNBC does it actually say ‘unbiased’ or ‘fair and balanced.’

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:13 am

                        Their morning show is hosted by a conservative after all.

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                      • mabsba says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:19 am

                        See, I don’t know that because I don’t watch ANY cable news. I watch BBC world news, much more entertaining and they never talked about balloon boy nor did they talk about Michael Jackson for four months.

                        I was just pointing out, in an annoyingly math geek sort of way, that JAC did not actually answer Ivan’s post. We mathematicians are sticklers that way: if you say something’s a right triangle, you either come up with a 90 degree angle or SHUT UP. “Sounds like” doesn’t cut it.

                        *off to do geeky math things*

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                      • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:22 am

                        Am I the only one that reads “A fuller spectrum of the news” as an omission that they intend to report something different than other stations?

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:23 am

                        Ivan, I understand the frustration, but just try to realize, whatever you’re trying to point out, chances are, those of us whose opinions mean something to you, already know and acknowledge. You’ll never change the minds of anyone else here on this board. I’ve been here posting for a good while now, and I’ve been reading the comments since before then, and I’ve never seen anyone concede defeat on here, they’ll either redirect, dodge, or just plain say “Alright f*ck it! I’m done.”
                        The best you can do (if you’re lucky) is to find middle ground.
                        I know it’s tempting when someone does something repeatedly that you find unnerving, I’m guilty of it myself, but take solace in knowing that if its an offense of enough magnitude, someone will point it out, someone who JAC will probably have an inclination to listen to. I feel that the more the two of you clash horns the more the rest of us lose.
                        All I’m saying is…. give peace a chance.

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                      • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:24 am

                        Replace the word ‘omission’ with ‘admission’. – the opposite of what I said.

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:27 am

                        Oh, I don’t know. A journalist is supposed to be unbiased. And it’s not a word for word quote, don’t be an ass about it. It does say it covers a fuller spectrum, implying it covers both sides.
                        And Ivan was stating that it was left and proud of it. I don’t find that anywhere. But rather a statement of covering the full spectrum.
                        And most liberals I talk to, or see on here, go on about it being unbiased. With a rare few stating how happy they are that it’s the best left wing source.
                        All in all, I sick of people screaming that their side is the honest one, when both sides are biased. The “mainstream” media has a decidedly left bias, and Fox News has a right bias.
                        And Max, Fox has some liberal people on it too. Or did at some point. (I don’t know, I don’t watch any of them anymore)

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:29 am

                        You took the bait JAC… just because someone points out something about one news station, there is no internet rule to defend the other side. I think that’s what Ivan is going on about. It’s ok to let sleeping dogs lie… perfectly ok and most of the time, it’s the smartest thing to do.

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:35 am

                        And to clarify, I’m not railing you JAC just trying to express Ivan’s frustrations without degrading into petty arguing and name-calling.
                        There are plenty, plenty, of things we liberals here on the board are tired of hearing, that’s just plain not true. The whole “death panel” thing comes to mind.
                        Luckily most of the time it’s some random troll who spouts off at the mouth, but in cases like you and Ivan, it just gets to be out of control, and embarrassing for all of us. I’m just saying it’s possible to ignore the bad and get along. We can get along, we can be friends… and dare I say… lovers?
                        Now…. how about that reach around?!

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:39 am

                        Max, I am actually trying to have an honest conversation. And that’s hard with some people always screaming Faux News every time they don’t like something. It’s BS and they know it before it leaves their mouth. (Or fingers in this case)
                        Trollish comments are nasty, no matter what side they come from.
                        And to be honest with you, it started when Monkey Trainer made a stupid remark and I called him on it.

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:44 am

                        Naw, Max. I have to say that I’m definitely satisfied with the opposite sex. You don’t do a thing for me. Now let the wife try to sneak out the shower to the bedroom naked, and I run like cheetah down the hall. Me LIKEY the coming together joyfully!

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:49 am

                        I can see your point of view, but you have to realize, defending fox news on these threads is a losing downhill battle. You’re not only fighting uphill, but you’re outnumbered.
                        Doing so would be the equivalent of me defending Obama everytime someone tries to smear him. I’d run out of patience, out of energy, and eventually run out of excuses, because just like us all, he’s flawed. Obama has, is, and will make mistakes because he’s human.
                        The whole Fox/MSNBC/CNN bias debate has been gone over and over and over, and shame on you and Ivan for devolving into this frackus over a troll’s comment. The two of you are far too intelligent to be baited like that. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if Monkey trainer isn’t just a sock used by one of our mutual “friends” to simply stir up harsh feelings between the regulars.
                        My point is, the two of you have far too much potential to waste on skirmishes between each other… so what do you say we all band together… and hate the French.. eh?

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:50 am

                        Hmmm take out the downhill on “losing downhill battle” I have no idea why I put that in there…

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                      • Justacarolinian says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 11:57 am

                        Max, I gave a troll a hard time, then here came Ivan to the rescue of the troll. And decided to smack at me for it. He forgot his midol this month or something.

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                      • Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:01 pm

                        Being that I have no kids I feel very strange saying this…
                        I DON’T CARE WHO STARTED IT… I’M ENDING IT! OR SO HELP ME I’M TURNING THIS BOARD RIGHT BACK AROUND TO ICANHAZCHEEZBURGER!!

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                      • bitter troll the belgien flag!!!111!!!111!1!! says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 12:07 pm

                        bitter troll is here, time to sing good morning song yet?

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                      • Default User says:
                        November 29, 2009 at 1:04 pm

                        Good morning song? Starbucks has a theme song?

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        • Kn0wledge1ne says:
          November 27, 2009 at 10:49 am

          Greenpeace is a non-governmental organization for the protection and conservation of the environment. Greenpeace uses direct action, lobbying and research to achieve its goals. Greenpeace has a worldwide presence with national and regional offices in 46 countries, which are affiliated to the Amsterdam-based Greenpeace International. The global organization receives its income through the individual contributions of an estimated 3 million financial supporters.

          Greenpeace, originally known as the Greenpeace Foundation, was founded in Vancouver, British Columbia, in 1971. Early meetings were held in the Shaughnessy home of Robert and Bobbi Hunter. The first office was opened in a back-room, storefront off Broadway on Cypress in Kitsilano, (Vancouver). On September 15, 1971, the Don’t Make a Wave Committee sent the eighty foot halibut seiner Phyllis Cormack from Vancouver, to oppose United States testing of nuclear devices in Amchitka, Alaska. While the boat never reached its destination and was turned back by the US military, this campaign was deemed the first using the name Greenpeace.

          In 1972, the Greenpeace Foundation evolved in its own right to a less conservative and structured collective of environmentalists who were more reflective of the counterculture and hippie youth movements of the 1960s and 1970s. The social and cultural background from which Greenpeace emerged heralded a period of de-conditioning away from old world antecedents and sought to develop new codes of social, environmental and political behavior.

          The focus of the organization later turned from anti-nuclear protest to other environmental issues: whaling, bottom trawling, global warming, old growth, nuclear power, and genetically modified organisms.

          This means that GreenPeace is COLOMBIAN!!11!!

          Viva La Revolucion!

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          • Stephanie says:
            November 27, 2009 at 11:42 am

            My first thought when reading that Greenpeace headquarters were “off Broadway” was “Well, yeah, you’re never going to fill up a whole Broadway theater when your big musical number is “Don’t Nuke The Whales (PS: I want to live!)” They’re going to need something a bit flashier than that to make it on the great white way.

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  8. MikeHunt says:
    November 27, 2009 at 11:05 am

    And now for something completely different….
    Saw 2012 last night- usual liberal Hollywood drivel except I loved the part where “Obama” gets smushed by the aircraft carrier ! Poetic justice from the military he refuses to support. Wonder how they got that past the drone censors?

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  9. viking gal says:
    November 27, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Oh God, not Again?! Please?!

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  10. Stephanie says:
    November 27, 2009 at 11:52 am

    In fairness, public education is just a fancy way of saying government funded school system, and from watching the news I’ve determined that anything government sponsored for the aid and betterment of it’s citizens is just socialist madness. Do you really think someone so worried about America turning socialist would attend these suspicious “public option” schools? Especially the kind that require “public option” roads to get there when every good American knows that the streets to communism are paved in the same damn thing as most every road in this country expect some of the really scary gravel ones that you seem to only get stuck on late at night when there is no one else around…

    (Actually in fairness, my spelling is probably a hundred times worse than hers. Still, you have to believe that someone would have pointed it out when she was making it, or when she showed it to her friends, or even just sitting around in a group of people who are suppose to be showing solidarity together against the government, or even just a passing news anchor. Come on, guys. What part of democracy makes you act like an ass?)

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    • Stephanie says:
      November 27, 2009 at 11:54 am

      Oh, I did mean that last part to address the people there with her and not PK. I’m pretty sure I know which part makes the internet act like an ass.

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      • Bitter's Chef says:
        November 27, 2009 at 4:15 pm

        Other portions of the above rant aside, roads are the least socialist of gov’t projects as they are mainly financed from a variety of user fees.

        Go ahead and rag on people about the socialism of public school funding, medicaid/welfare funding, and most Army Corps of Engineers projects all you want, but leave my damn roads alone until you know what you’re talking about.

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        • Default User says:
          November 27, 2009 at 4:22 pm

          “…mainly financed from a variety of user fees. ” User fees? I don’t know if maybe roads are done differently where you’re from, but I don’t know of user fee’s for the roads I’ve been on. Also…what about sidewalks?

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          • Bitter's Chef says:
            November 27, 2009 at 4:35 pm

            Gas/diesel taxes, excise tax on all tires, excise tax on commercial trucks, highway use tax on commercial trucks, registration fees on all on-road vehicles, registration pro-rate fees on commercial trucks, permit/authority fees on commercial trucks, tolls and I’m sure I’m forgetting at least one or two.

            As for city streets and sidewalks, those are primarily paid for with property taxes/assessments against the properties served by those roads, which while not specifically a “user” fee, it’s still charged to those who benefit from the road’s/sidewalk’s increase in their property value (in most cases, roads and sidewalks are built on an easement across the private property owner’s land).

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      • Sigma says:
        November 27, 2009 at 4:58 pm

        What the Obama administration and Democrats have been trying to do is creates a more powerful government that does what the states and/or counties should be doing, thus going against the wishes of many communities and/or states. The country as a Democratic Republic is supposed to have equal power between the states and Federal government, because, as you know, not everybody agrees with the government.

        Now I’m obviously not an expert on the education system, but from what I know public schools are essentially a “public option” as they are funded by the state. That’s how it was set up and it was set up to prevent corrupt bureaucrats form abusing power. If the government gets too big then stuff like (but not severely as, of course) what happens in China or Nazi Germany even.

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        • Bitter's Chef says:
          November 27, 2009 at 5:20 pm

          BRRRZZZTTT! *best I could do for a gameshow buzzer*

          Constitutional Republic, not Democratic. Until the 17th amendment, only the House of Reps was elected democratically (majority rule).

          AND, as stated in both the original Constitution and restated in the 10th amendment, the powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states by the constitution are reserved to the states or the people, SO, power was not intended to be equal between state and federal levels, but rather, the power was intended to be primarily in the hands of the people and the states, with federal power severely and specifically limited.

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          • justacarolinian says:
            November 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm

            *picks self up off floor* Wow, I thought I was the only one left that actually knew that.

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          • Sigma says:
            November 27, 2009 at 10:41 pm

            That’s just the point I’m trying to make.

            Clowerd and Piven came up with the method of seeking to overwhelm the system so it collapses and a new, deeply federal (statist) system is set up in its place, a method now being used.

            The founding fathers knew that the *federal* government needed to have a limited AND restricted central government. No more, no less. Period.

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          • bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
            November 27, 2009 at 11:29 pm

            LOL.. for some reason I read 107th amendment, not 10th.. I was like “Damnit! I need to pay more attention..” :lol:

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          • bitter wino says:
            November 28, 2009 at 5:54 am

            Although I am sure that many people do not know this tidbit (about the Constitution & 10th amendment), it is unclear what we do with these restraints on federal power. Do we advocate the immediate stripping away of all federal government powers that are ‘over-reaching’? Do we try to amend the Constitution?

            It is also more complicated in terms of limiting federal government powers in the sense that many of the federal regulations that states are forced to comply with are not completely binding. States can refuse to comply with federal statutes in many cases, although the consequences of refusal tend to be tantamount to a refusal of federal funds for other projects.

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            • Justacarolinian says:
              November 28, 2009 at 3:33 pm

              That is one of the reasons the Fed changed our way of taxing. You don’t order the state to obey, you cut it’s funding if it doesn’t do what you want it too.

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            • Bitter's Chef says:
              November 28, 2009 at 4:48 pm

              I think the answer is already beginning to emerge. Several states are currently considering federalism amendments that would cut back the role of the federal government and more closely limit Congress to its originally designated functions.

              If I were a betting man, I’d look for Texas to draw a line in the sand on a non-constitutional program (nationalized healthcare comes to mind), and take it to the SCOTUS when the inevitable funding blackmail comes up.

              While the vast majority of the citizenry wasn’t in the loop when the Court wrongly decided Wickard v Filburn in 1942, a similar test of the Commerce Clause wouldn’t stand a chance today, regardless of the Court’s ideological makeup. This is evidenced by the U.S. v Lopez ruling in 1995, where the Court denied the Commerce Clause justification in a case of Congress overreaching the Constitution.

              Once a new precedent is set, I don’t think there would be an immediate “unwind” of any unconstitutional federal programs, but rather, more frequent and numerous SCOTUS challenges as new programs are enacted and as existing programs are reauthorized.

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              • jim says:
                November 29, 2009 at 6:09 am

                We can only hope. Unfortunately, this country is better at reacting to a crisis than preventing one. We may have reached the point that the cumulative effects of bad legislation, judicial activism, and poor philosophy are no longer sustainable. Maybe 60 years ago this country could have absorbed and hidden the toxic effect of, for example, the bailout or nationalized health care, but that does not appear to be the case today.

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            • Bitter's Chef says:
              November 28, 2009 at 4:55 pm

              On a lighter note BW, since the Bitter’s Butler quit somewhere up the page here, how about we promote you from a mere bitter wino to Bitter Troll’s new wine steward, AKA Bitter’s Sommelier?

              The pay and benefits aren’t that great, but there is this French Maid . . .

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              • Default User says:
                November 29, 2009 at 12:47 am

                Was. There was a french maid. The maid outfit somehow got ripped to shreds and there’s no spare outfit.

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              • bitter wine steward says:
                November 29, 2009 at 8:13 am

                I do like wine. I can pronounce sommelier in a french sounding way. I guess so long as BT approves. I don’t know if bitter wine steward sounds so good though. Maybe Bitter Wino, the wine steward

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                • Bitter wino, the wine steward says:
                  November 29, 2009 at 8:16 am

                  is that better? Now where did that french maid go? I have the perfect recommendation for a red wine to go along with french maid.

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            • jim says:
              November 29, 2009 at 6:25 am

              Unfortunately, justices have been put on the Supreme Court who do not believe the constitution limits the federal government. It would do no good to amend the constitution when a near majority of the court is already willing to ignore it.

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    • Eddie the Floydist says:
      November 27, 2009 at 12:58 pm

      Still, you have to believe that someone would have pointed it out when she was making it..

      Why? We have seen plenty of other signs with incorrect spelling and it doesn’t appear that anyone pointed out the obvious to them either.

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  11. Someone says:
    November 27, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Wow… I seriously cannot believe the amount of people here, including the person who captioned this picture, who just aren’t getting the point of that sign!! Whether you agree with her or not, it’s a pretty well-known fact that there are tons of people who believe Obama is stealing people’s personally earned money to use in the bailout programs and totally wasting it, so she’s referring to Obama as “Commander and Theif” because she believes he’s a theif for taking the money… how is this not obvious? This picture would be better on the Fail Blog for a captioning fail… the captioner didn’t get it!!

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  12. viking gal says:
    November 27, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Does dog poo burn?

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  13. bitter troll the belgien flag!!!111!!!111!1!! says:
    November 27, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    dont you die then go to hell?

    hooman religion confuses bitter troll

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  14. Ioannes says:
    November 27, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    The women with the poster is 100% correct regardless of the misspelling on her sign. Anyone who supports Obamolech is in league with him and as evil and reprobate as he is. Sadly, that’s most people here.

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    • viking gal says:
      November 27, 2009 at 1:32 pm

      Dahling, we don’t all prescribe to the same definition of evil as you do. I personally think that taxing the very wealthy in order to provide healthcare for those who can not pay is the opposite of evil… However, I do not see Obama as a saint. Far from it.
      I also do not see George W. Bush as evil…and I do not agree with him on many points. But I suspect that I am talking to a wall here, and walls do not respect that folks with different experiences will have different points of view. So, good day.

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    • keithybabes says:
      November 27, 2009 at 4:20 pm

      Lovin’ the Christian sentiment. Still not learned to be kind to your fellow man?

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    • bootyka says:
      November 27, 2009 at 6:14 pm

      err….Sadly, “reprobate” is a transitive verb, not an adjective.

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    • Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
      November 27, 2009 at 9:05 pm

      Damn, you’re on to us. Hell, we’re not even people. We’re just evil aliens hellbent on taking over the world, and eating the conservative people, because they’re the only ones that are human beings. I thought we were gonna get away with it, too.

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    • Classicist the Zappaist says:
      December 1, 2009 at 8:19 am

      When the Devil is too busy,
      And Death’s a bit too much,
      they call on me by name you see,
      for my special touch.
      To the gentlemen I’m Miss Fortune,
      to the ladies I’m Sir Prize,
      but call me by any name,
      any way its all the same.

      I’m the fly in your soup
      I’m the pebble in your shoe
      I’m the pea beneath your bed
      I’m a bump on every head
      I’m the peel on which you slip
      I’m a pin in every hip
      I’m the thorn in your side
      Makes you wriggle and writhe

      And it’s so easy when you’re evil
      This is the life, you see
      The Devil tips his hat to me
      I do it all because I’m evil
      And I do it all for free
      Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need

      While there’s children to make sad
      While there’s candy to be had
      while there’s pockets left to pick
      While there’s grannies left to trip down the stairs
      I’ll be there, I’ll be waiting ’round the corner
      It’s a game. I’m glad I’m in it
      ‘Cause there’s one born every minute

      And it’s so easy when you’re evil
      This is the life, you see
      The Devil tips his hat to me
      I do it all because I’m evil
      And I do it all for free
      Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need

      I pledge my allegiance, to all things dark
      And I promise on my damned soul
      To do as I am told, Lord Beelzebub
      Has never seen a soldier quite like me
      Not only does his job, but does it happily.

      I’m the fear that keeps you awake
      I’m the shadows on the wall
      I’m the monsters they become
      I’m the nightmare in your skull
      I’m a dagger in your back
      An extra turn upon the rack
      I’m the quivering of your heart
      A stabbing pain, a sudden start.

      And it’s so easy when you’re evil
      This is the life, you see
      The Devil tips his hat to me
      I do it all because I’m evil
      And I do it all for free
      Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need
      And I do it all for free
      Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need
      And I do it all for free
      Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need

      It gets so lonely being evil
      What I’d do to see a smile
      Even for a little while
      And no one loves you when you’re evil…

      I’m lying through my teeth!
      Your tears are all the company I need

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  15. Teachard says:
    November 27, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Her teachers were more than likely members of the communist party/teachers union aka Democrats and she may be a bad speller but at least she knows enough to hate Yobama, so I guess her teacher should get fired….but not for failing to teach her English. It’s pretty funny when libtards whine about how stupid everyone is when it’s their fault and very much intentional. Safe to say if the country hadn’t been so dumbed down for the last 30 years, The One wouldn’t be in a position to bankrupt anyone but himself.

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  16. Jane St.Clair Glamorous First Lady of PK says:
    November 27, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    If they’re so stupid, perhaps you could go first and show them the way.

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  17. gmc360 says:
    November 27, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Teabaggers are dum – so dum they don’t even get a ‘b.’

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  18. Jerbil says:
    November 27, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    One question. Where were all these protestors when GWB was spending money like a drunken sailor?

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  19. Dexaan says:
    November 27, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    I bet he plays a Rouge in WoW.

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  20. Rando the Amazingly Awesome says:
    November 27, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Not you again, Again. *sigh*
    I can’t stand you because you make me side with the conservatives because you’re such a fvcking douche.

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  21. wolfram says:
    November 27, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    West U means West University. That protest was possibly near Rice University?

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  22. Wichser says:
    November 28, 2009 at 10:58 am

    stole my bike

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  23. hans says:
    November 30, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    *sigh* Typical American

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  24. Me says:
    December 1, 2009 at 6:59 am

    Its Command-IN-Chief, not Commander and Chief.

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  25. Classicist the Zappaist says:
    December 1, 2009 at 8:24 am

    This sign has been here before!

    Theif is still misspelled!

    The title “Commander-in-Chief” is still not understood!

    The old man beside her still looks like my professor AND IT STILL FREAKS ME OUT!

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  26. Devil's Advocate says:
    December 1, 2009 at 11:16 am

    No time to read entire thread but a question:
    Has anyone commented on the fact that the “public education” assumption is precisely the kind of “elitism” that the so-called right wing has been going on and on about for all this time?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    P.S.- Hans: very original. Ninny.

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    • bitter troll has candy in the back of his van says:
      December 1, 2009 at 11:42 am

      Your right, when people clearly make big mistakes then parade it on the streets like she is, its wrong for people to poke it out…keep yourself ignorant…dont think…if you try to improve things your a fool….close your eyes and go to sleep everything is ok…your perfect just the way you are…700 pound man you dont need to put that bucket of chicken down..thats what elitist want…child molester, dont worry your fine, cutting off your balls is what an elitist would want little timmy was dressed like a whore…ok those are a bit much …alot much..really i dont have a point..

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  27. Devil's Advocate says:
    December 1, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Nooo, what I mean is assuming “public” vs. “private” education.

    By the way- it’s “you’re” not “your”. You must have gone to a private school.

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    • mabsba says:
      December 1, 2009 at 11:51 am

      First, embrace the reply link.
      Second, huh? Private schools are generally BETTER than public? Or are you using the English definition (which is exactly backwards of the American usage)?
      Third, he does that on purpose. :)

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      • Devil's Advocate says:
        December 1, 2009 at 11:56 am

        The assumption that private is better than public is, by definition, elitist. I live in a city (an American city) where that assumption cannot be made.

        And I like to play devil’s advocate on purpose too!

        Still waiting to hear from Hans though. Bets are open as to where he’s writing from.

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        • mabsba says:
          December 1, 2009 at 12:04 pm

          Ah. I will admit that we have some really lousy private schools here (particularly the religious ones), but my son attends one of the best schools (private or public) in the country. Source of funding is definitely not the determining factor. Now AMOUNT of funding…. :)

          PS I think Hans is a drive by. (Meaning he won’t respond to responses.)

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  28. HR_19 says:
    December 1, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    The best part is that the person who made the poster failed to realize that it’s a play no words, not a spelling error. The usual term is, “Commander in Chief,” but both of the last two words were replaced, and the final word was made to have an appearance of being bold, or something to that effect. It’s also an accurate depiction of Barack Osama Obama.

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  29. Izaran says:
    August 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Her spelling wouldn’t suck if her spelling teacher wasn’t a Union-junky.

    I like to refer to unions as junkies. They are addicted to our money.

    And as a future educator: I personally believe Unions in education are undermining our entire public education system.

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  30. bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
    November 27, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    *headdesk*

    -your-

    *dusts off 4th grade spelling bee champ plaque*

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  31. Default User says:
    November 27, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    *pets Charro* If you managed to notice that you are obviously still to sober. *pulls out the vodka and doesn’t mention the an/and typo :D )

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  32. bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
    November 28, 2009 at 12:24 am

    *headdeskheaddeskheaddesk* *hurls plaque at wall* KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t drink vodka, got any Jack Daniels? *purrs*

    *tries to not mention the incorrect form of “too”* :lol:

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  33. Default User says:
    November 28, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Sure, I’ve got a whole bar in this shrubbery. Would you like that with coke or just in shots?

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  34. bitter charro Supreme Internet Dicktator says:
    November 28, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Oh straight up for me. Thank you kindly, much indebted to you.

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  35. Maxwell Silverhammer Supreme Socialist Presidictator of PK says:
    November 29, 2009 at 8:29 am

    *turns away from Charro, VG and Jane, and takes his sunglasses*
    I’m sorry ladies… what?

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  36. charro says:
    November 29, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    *tickles Max*

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