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But… but… the copier jammed. Again.
PC Load letter?!? WTF does that mean?!
I think it means, all your copies are belong to us.
Use Custom Cardstock from tray 3? Uh, okay…ZOMG THE WHOLE THING BROKE AGAIN!!!!!
Mine said “Unplug, call brother.” I immediately unplugged it and called my little brother Joey.
Well, I unplugged it but I don’t have a brother. Does it have to be my brother or can I use someone elses brother? And how will I know if their brother is compatible with my copier? Has anyone seen tray 3? Or the Load Letter loader?
We threw tray 3 across the room when it broke again.
I’m pretty sure I just tossed the Load Letter loader out the window, sorry DU.
We really wanted to demolish our old printers Office Space-style, but they wouldn’t let us. I swear the old printer looked like something from “There I fixed it.” It was literally held together by duct tape and extra screws and bent wire.
Someone posted an article above our copier about how most work-place injuries occurred from people dealing with crappy office machinery (kicking it, beating it, etc.).
What does workmen’s comp pay out on that?
It means that Mickeysh@ft still can’t accept that most of the known World uses ISO paper sizes, rather than US ones.
Go watch Office Space. Now.
Are you watching it yet?
I’ve never even heard of it. Is it the US remake of the Ricky Gervais “comedy” The Office”? If so, I’d rather gnaw my leg off at the hip, since it would be less painful!
No, the US “The Office” is also called “The Office”. Office space is a movie that came out some years ago and is highly entertaining.
And, as me, it’s also a very common error message you get when trying to print Wurd documents in the UK.
So only people in the military are allowed to have bad days? this punch line is getting old.
Unless you’re a construction worker, cop, firefighter, or taxi driver (maybe some I forgot) you don’t really lose your life if you have a bad day at work. So yeah, I do cut them some slack.
Don’t know about that. We’ve had several work place killings here, usually some poor woman’s crazy ex shooting up her place of work. Actually, I think convenience store workers have the highest fatality rates.
Don’t go inside the gas station!
Did I forget to mention the Post Office as well? Well they’re federal workers who wear uniforms, too bad they don’t fall under the DoD.
I’m a process server by night and tax collector by day. I’ve had a gun drawn on me and people set their dogs loose sometimes. People have threatened to do drive bys and bring their gun to the department. Does that qualify? Am I allowed to have a bad day?
I have a student whose severe ADHD causes him to grab himself and make Michael Jackson noises about ten times in a half-hour period. Can I have a bad day?
I would just have a boombox ready to play Jackson songs when he does it.
Hmmm, I was worried about this. I know to the uninitiated this sounds like a cool thing to happen in a school. Let me assure you that it is not.
Well I mean at least buy him a pleather red jacket, and zombie makeup.
no, but feel free to kill yourself douchbag
Janie! It looks like that student you were talking about has found his way on to PK, and my, what a potty mouth. You may want to have a talk with his parents about that.
GOD! I make one comment about how I cut them slack on having a bad day, AND I did say others. If I didn’t mmention your job, please find it under others. Sales Clerk on Black Friday does not count.
ILPB, I just assumed they were all joking. Because I don’t think anyone seriously believes that they shouldn’t be allowed to have a bad day just because someone online tells them they can’t. ^_^
Agreed. And does your new handle mean it’s your birthday? Happy Birthday! I would give you Thanksgiving leftover desserts, but I have a teenage boy.
Now must run to work, but I promise to make more chocolate cream pie when I return.
Why yes, yes it does.
Hm… Pie…
Who is giving Mina her birthday spankings?
Can I watch?
You can give her a couple if you want.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
you may have cake for today it is not a lie
*looks up from mostly eaten cake*
Uh…yeah, about that…
*sigh* I should have known… the cake is always a lie…
but soylent cake is PEOPLE!!!
-orders bitter’s chef to make more cake-
YOU WILL HAVE CAKE!!!!
Mmmm…Soylent Cake
I still have some of that apple-cherry cake…and still yummy!
*wraps up the remaining 1/2 and hands over to Mina*
Happy birthday!
Thank you guys! Oh boy, Cake! *drool*
Happy Birthday to youuuuuuuuuu
Happy Birthday to youuuuuuuuuu
Happy Birthday dear Mina
Now get the hell to work and quit slacking off!
Oh, and as a birthday present, you may help yourself to a beer in the cooler, a swim in the pool, and some sunbathing on the lawn.
Oooh lawn privledges! Nice!
Happy Birthday Mina!
You already have beer and cake…that sounds like a good start!
Where to start first? Since I’m off work now, I think I’ll have a beer. Thanks Eds!
Ooooooooh, great birthday present for you Mina, might I suggest putting yourself and your beer in one of those floaty chair things and relaxing in Eds pool? It’s almost summer Down Under, you know.
Jane, that’s an awesome idea! Thanks!:)
Happy Birthday, Mina!
*gets in line to give spankings to geek-sister Mina*
Happy Birthday, Mina!!
*sings*
“This is your birthday song!
It isn’t very long!”
(badoom ch)
Happy Birthday Mina!
Happy Birthday Mina!
TY Default User!
-applies birthday spanking-
Happy B-day from the newbie, Mina!!!
Tell that to the guy who got trampled last year at Wal-Mart. And working Black Friday DOES mean you can have a bad day. Just not as bad as soldiers.
Excellent point.
I second that.
Sorry, ILPB. I was mostly replying to the LOL maker, but thought it was relevant to your post.
It sure is.
The preachy lols strike again. I guess the holiday is over.
Ugh. Over these.
Well thank you you’re so kind. I’ve really needed to vent.
Well I woke up late. My shower was freezing cause the neighbor used all the hot water. Traffic was backed up so I was late. Boss yelled at me. Computer system crashed but I was still expected to finish my project. I’m about to break down.
*Can you guys believe how nice this lol maker is? Just listening to peoples problems*
::patsA.D.M.::
There, there. It will be okay. You can do it!
Yeah, last week at my work our sign printer, which needed to be replaced 3 years ago, finally completely gave out the day we were supposed to start making all of our sale signs for Black Friday, so the day before the big BF ad set we were desperately trying to get signs made on that piece of junk so we could set the biggest f’ing ad of the year. It took all day and we didn’t get done, so we were scrambling to make signs the next day (by that time thankfully we had gotten a new printer), but the sign making software was running horribly slow so we had to wait about 6 hours between trips to the sign riter computer and we didn’t get out of there until 10:30, but that’s only because the store manager sent us home. The other managers stayed to print the last 10 or 15 signs which took until about 1:30 am. Run on sentences run on.
Is it as bad as taking bullets? Nope. Did it suck donkey balls? Oh yes.
Job Choice:
Maybe you made the wrong decision.
Not all of us can work in the evening gown designer shops like you do!
Our country is made for equal wage slave opportunities. You don’t have to be in the military or sell designer gowns.
Well, for once, I agreed with you. Until the equal wage slave opportunities.
Its true. There aren’t really equal wage slave opportunities….
But at least most of us get to be wage slaves!
I guess I agree with everyone having to have a wage earning job, which I don’t consider being a slave at that point. The difference between our points of view is that I am conservative with my money, and I invest what I can with it. If someone squanders it and doesn’t have anything to show for it after 30+ years, then it isn’t the company’s fault, it’s the person. They may be a slave to the company, but it’s by their own actions.
Or, did I completely misinterpret your post?
Not everyone makes enough money to where they can invest and save it. If they can, absolutely they should, and I commend you for being wise with your money. But I don’t think it’s fair to assume that just because someone doesn’t have money saved up after years and years that it’s necessarily their fault. There are way too many other factors that play into life to make it that cut & dry.
FTR, I see what you’re saying, and if people CAN improve their financial situations, but instead blow it on stuff they can’t really afford and get themselves in trouble, then you’re right. Shame on them completely.
On the other hand, seems a damn shame to spend 30 years living in a studio apartment, riding public transportation, eating ramen noodles and never going on vacation or to the movies so you can sock away all your money….and then dropping dead of a heart attack at 55 before you get to enjoy any of it.
What was it Churchill said? “If I knew how long I was going to live, I would have taken better care of myself”?
Yeah, that sucks, but life sucks sometimes. Better to plan for trouble and be pleasantly surprised than the other way around. (And hopefully that poor guy willed his money away to groups who could put it to good use.)
That’s a much simplified version of what I was getting at below. LOL
It was Eubie Blake. I quote him to people who nag me to quit smoking.
There’s a delicate balance between blowing money occasionally and spending yourself into a pit you can never get out of. I’ll admit to blowing money on stuff sometimes when I should spend it on other things, but when we do get big money (tax returns, refunded school grants, etc), the first thing we do is pay some bills. Now, if we paid all of our bills with every extra penny we have, we’d have pretty much nothing. You’re right, that’d be a lousy way to live. That being said, we still have the same damn TV we bought when we got married 11 years ago.
I have family, though, who spend beyond their means no matter what the situation because they just can’t seem to grasp the idea of cutting back, even when nobody in that house has a full-time job. I swear those people are gonna turn me Republican at some point. *sigh*
No, no, Rando. Don’t go to the dark side! Remember we have cookies…and birthday cake!
We do too….and ours are better. Moist, chewy dark chocolate brownies with chunks of chocolate chips in them….apple pie with a flaky crust and redolent of cinnamon….oatmeal cookies with pecans….
Nooooooooo…diss lies…don’t believe the lies. We have chocolate cream pie (or will have after I get back from work).
I counteroffer with peanut butter pie with a dark chocolate cookie crust and bittersweet ganache.
Way to give a guy stress!
Sorry, diss, I can’t afford to be a Republican. And as long as the social conservatives are running that party, I wouldn’t even consider voting for a Republican.
I saw a horrible, horrible truck on Friday. Some ass master had painted it all over saying something about Obamacare encouraging everyone to have abortions and to reject it, complete with a huge painting on the back of a tiny fetus being held in the palms of someone’s hand. Probably the single most offensive thing I’ve ever seen. Fiscal conservatives I can tolerate to an extent. Social conservatives make me want to beat them with a shovel.
Oh yeah? Well we had peanut butter pie with Oreo crust at our liberal Thanksgiving. Take THAT! It was sooooooo good.
Oooh, thank you, Rando! Don’t mind if I do….*noms*
That liberal thanksgiving cake looks awfully socialist to me and I demand my slice of the pie!
Did I mention the whipped cream to go with the pie?
You see Diss… pies and cakes are not allowed to the conservatives, because everyone gets a piece, whether they helped make it or not. Therefore, cake, and pie, and any other sliced goodie in socialist and therefore, can not be used by conservatives unless they cross over to our side. So… you have a choice…. Choose Wisely… MWUAHAHAHAHAH!
THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!1!11
Some socialist cakes are more equal than others.
Rando ate all the birthday cake. There’s is no more birthday cake. The cake is a LIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
I call BS.
Don’t worry, I’m not changing sides. But for a brief moment, I understand the conservatives being angry at lazy people who mooch off the government and other people. But it’s fleeting. Don’t worry, my bleeding heart hasn’t failed me yet.
I do sometimes too, especially when I’m working my butt off at low-paying jobs trying to find permanent employment. But then I remember that I have a wonderfully supportive and loving family that helps me out when I can’t make ends meet and not everyone is as lucky as me to have that.
What frustrates me are parents who don’t take advantage of programs that could help their children break the cycle of poverty they’re living in and find success. I get that there is a cultural mindset for people who grow up in poverty that is different from my own but when your kid get’s suspended from school when he’s only in the first grade because you’re too lazy to fill out the forms for Medicaid so that he can get the medicine he desperately needs to be successful…
Hey, I am always pissed off at lazy people, especially the ones who make more money than us but say things like, “Oh, you’re so lucky you have enough money to send your kid to a private school.” As if LUCK had anything to do with it. Try not buying a 4000 square foot house, new cars, fancy clothes or all those other toys. Also try having fewer kids. Geez. I couldn’t afford to send TWO kids to my son’s school, let alone four.
As Rando said above, choose wisely. And don’t come whining to me about your lousy choices. You have bad luck; I have total sympathy.
BUT, you cannot penalize children for having crappy parents. And that’s the complicated part. How do you help children without enabling useless parents?
No, everyone got all mad last time we tried that. Don’t understand why.
Then get more sticks… Persistence is a good tactic!
*standing ovation for Diss* Why are you not the president, Diss???
sounds a bit much like…your poor therefor we are takeing your children away!
dont worry we will put them into a labor camp and have them make nikes ..help pay off the cost.
What a lovely, succinct reply.
May I ask what the 9000 signifies? (I was out of town for a week and apparently missed some things.)
WHAT!?!? Impossible! Check your scouter!
@diss : that old chestnut about having extra kids for the increase in welfare payments is a pile of horse hockey. Most of us po’ folks are poor because of a combination of lack of opportunity and lack of skills. If I don’t have the skills to plan my way to more gainful employment, a better house, etc. etc., I sure as h*e*c*k don’t have the skills to plan my cash flow around my fertility.
I get the point, but there ain’t nothing wrong with public transport with proper investment.
Some folks don’t make enough to invest, even with taking public transport… Rent, food, and heat can all add up fast in certain parts of the country!
Sorry, I meant public investment, not individual.
Cities with reasonable public transport seriously increase the potential for work and fun for those living within those cities, in my experience.
Very true. And less drunk driving, because there is a safe alternative!
There are less stupid movie themes though. Imagine, “Dude, where’s my metro pass”
You have to keep in mind that VNV lives in a world populated by consumerist drones, where evil capitalist marketers use subliminal advertising and vitamin water to suppress their audience’s sense of responsibility and force them to spend more than what they earn.
Savings, interest, and investment, in his world, are all dirty words, only available to our capitalist masters and not to us wage slaves.
They’re not dirty words, but it’s not as easy as some seem to suggest. I roll my eyes at people who can’t fathom that some people CAN’T save money because there’s just not any leftover money to save.
Rando, you spendthrift! What the heck do you need electricity and running water for? >:-(
I get that, but I also think it’s within the reach of far, far more than the .1% or whatever of households that constitute our “corporate masters”.
Small businesses don’t even show up on VNV’s radar (and to be fair, it’s the whole lazy “us vs. them” crowd, not just him), nor do individual-sized savings and investments. (See what he says below: “yeah, I guess the wage slaves are allowed to invest, but it doesn’t matter because our corporate masters invest so much more!”) Call it “sociology 101 blindness”, I guess.
Very little escapes my radar. Perhaps your radar just doesn’t get the range mine does, and that’s why you make the same short sighted arguments so many others have made.
And that’s really a damn shame — health care reform could be a huge help to small businesses, if done correctly.
I’m not saying that people should be saving until it hurts, just that I think a fair majority of households could be building a decent nest egg — saving, say, 10% of gross.
I imagine having a safe neighborhood for your kids to grow up in is also a higher priority than having money at the end of the day to invest.
Yeah, it was a bad bad place to live. I hate this house, but I’d live here forever before going back to that place.
You are partly right.
“You have to keep in mind that VNV lives in a world populated by consumerist drones, where evil capitalist marketers use subliminal advertising” – True
“and vitamin water” – dumb
“suppress their audience’s sense of responsibility” – part right. They definitely want to suppress your senses, but not to responsibility, but too all those voiceless people suffering in forgotten poverty.
“force them to spend more than what they earn” – again, part right. They don’t force, but they strongly encourage, even to the point of having commercials dedicated to convincing you that if you do not buy their product you will not be happy/beautiful/worthwhile. And everyone wants to be in at least one of those categories.
“Savings, interest, and investment, in his world, are all dirty words” – Savings, no; Interest, yes; Investment, no.
“only available to our capitalist masters and not to us wage slaves” Another false. Its not only available to our masters, but they do dominate the ability to use it. Got to have money to make money. Especially when it comes to the extreme sums I would be speaking about.
In all… Dhoti talks, but doesn’t listen. As you can tell by the fact that every statement he made had some falseness about the way I have clearly explained myself on PK.
You don’t approve of interest? Like excessive interest or at all?
Don’t care for it at all.
That’s just interesting.
*stores this fact about VNV away to think about*
So what do you plan to do when you retire? Because last I checked, 104K plans earn interest.
I didn’t say I didn’t think interest exists. Plus, I don’t think all those 401/104ks are going to be around much longer.
LOL, bad typo. I meant 401K. Whoops!
And I didn’t think you thought interest doesn’t exist. I was wondering how you save for retirement if you don’t approve of interest at all. Why would you invest your money into something like a 401K when the primary purpose of it is to acrue interest for the future? It’s not as if you’re required to do so.
I suppose I save the same way everyone else does. Doesn’t mean I approve of how its done. The biggest problem with interest is that its money making money.
How exactly do you think interest works, VNV? Do you think there are bordellos for rich peoples’ $100 bills inside large banks, where pampered bills spend their days getting massages and screwing, and $1 bills magically appear a few weeks later?
Do you not understand that, fundamentally, interest is made by putting money to work? Do you also not understand how ridiculous it is for you to claim that “interest” is immoral but return on “investment” is not?
Maybe I’m oversimplifying, but in my opinion, paying interest is bad, gaining interest is good. But, I tend to make things black and white. Then, it all boils down to money management. Call your creditors and negotiate better terms and try to maximize your gains. Again, I know I make it sound easy, but I do it quite often. That’s why I only have one credit card with 8.24% interest. As far as investments, I invest in options. I know, it’s a scary word, but if you know what you’re doing, it’s not as risky as it sounds.
Dhoti- I’m quite sure VNV knows how interest works. There’s no need to be rude.
VNV- Whether or not I agree with you about interest, my point is, that if you disagree with it so strongly, then you invest in something like a 401K, your argument doesn’t hold much water. There are other ways to save for retirement that don’t require investment in an interest bearing account. On here at least, you come across as a man who believe strongly in his principles and practicality be damned. Doing something you don’t agree with simply because it’s easier doesn’t seem to be in character with the person you portray yourself to be on this website.
No, Mina, I really don’t think he does, at a fundamental level. Saying “interest [is] money making money” shows the same lack of underlying understanding as does saying “meat comes from the supermarket”.
Regardless, there’s still no reason to be rude. You don’t have to agree with someone to be civil, or even polite to them.
VNV isn’t a legitimate part of the discussion; he’s really nothing more than a somewhat mild-mannered troll. Since he’s not here to be a civil participant — and has yet again opened by taking the low road — I reserve the right to yank his chain a bit.
Whoa whoa whoa. What’s wrong with interest? Interest ENCOURAGES people to invest and to save. Banks pay you to invest in them so they have money to make money. Naturally, they’re likely to make a lot more off your money than you do, but you still make money off your money. Even as a dirty librul I can’t deny the obvious practical advantages of interest to pretty much everyone.
I assumed you were upset about people having to pay interest on stuff like credit cards and loans, but again, if there wasn’t interest, there’d be no point in lending money to anyone.
Couple of things since I was afk for a while.
1)I don’t have an option in investing or not investing at least some of my paycheck. Its done graciously for me by my employer. I do invest elsewhere, but probably not as you would expect.
2)Dhoti, I do know how interest works and when it comes to trolling, at least I can have a conversation without going immediately to insults, and since that’s all you have, you are the troll.
3)Interest – I have a full understanding of how it works. It is very beneficial for those who make use of it. I am in no way denying its usefulness. But since I have a second, let me break it down how I see it. It will give Dhoti something to insult later.
In the world I fight to see:
saving=good. It makes sure you don’t run out in case of emergency. In many cases it shows moderation. (a character trait I admire, but its not necessary) It allows you to obtain better things in the long run.
investment=good Believing in some company/entity important enough to put resources toward it. Something that will benefit you and the community. Something that will make people happy. Something to further humanity.
interest= not good. Expecting to get more than you put in is a sign of greed. Those investments are to help you and others. The end result is the reward. Also, there shouldn’t be a need to borrow money. If its an emergency, its taken care of. Necessities like food/clothing/shelter/medication/transportation/education are taken care of and a governing body would help you start a business . If you are letting a friend borrow money for something small, then that’s up to you, but its pretty uncool to charge your friends interest. So its not so much as interest isn’t good, its that interest is obsolete.
I hope that clears that up some.
I believe your first response to me on this thread was an insult, VNV. We can all scroll up; it’s too late to claim the high road.
Run your vision forward to its logical conclusion — with “basic” needs provided by the state, discretionary income becomes, by fiat, a luxury. Private business compete, at cost (actually less, since any risk premium is seen as “greedy”), for a piece of this dwindling pie: in effect, they’re fighting a losing battle to the bottom with the state, which has declared itself to be risk-free. Business shutter, discretionary income decreases, and eventually private enterprise ceases to exist. (And all of this totally ignores inflation, but I can see you as the gold standard type, so perhaps you’re ignoring it on purpose.)
I suspect you think this is ideal, which is okay, I guess; but please, don’t be disingenuous. If you want to ban private enterprise, have the guts to simply say so.
Interestingly, your system would perpetuate and encourage the segregation of wealth. Historically, wages have been a poor way to accumulate wealth, particularly when they’d be kept low as in your system. In reality, it’d be like “sharia finance” — the rich set up complicated transactions and bribe imams to skirt the rules, while the poor are denied the benefit and stay poor.
Okay, here’s the thing. We’re talking about the real world in this discussion, not ideology. Interest is extra incentive for people to invest. It’s one way for people to make money.
It’s also a way to quantify risk, which as any ex-AIG executive will tell you, is an important thing to capture when dealing with counterparties…
I actually have to agree with Rando and Dhoti here. Interest is simply a bank paying you for the use of your money. It is the point of the business, otherwise you could just stash it beneath your mattress and be done with the whole thing.
Banks give out interest because you are doing an official loan to give them the money with the capacity to grab money back. Being able to store vast supplies of money means they can make loans to individuals to branch out and take a chance to do something more than just wage slave until they have a pile since that doesn’t usually work.
Granted it is but a chance not a guarantee but it is still better than the alternative. Without loans, a lot of things wouldn’t be possible. Access to more funding than you immediately have on hand because you can pay it back allows for a lot of people to go to college and make that wage slave pile you were talking about in the beginning.
So the system isn’t obsolete, people just are losing their fiscal intelligence. People need to be responsible but unfortunately since we are connected, other people’s issues can become our own hence the current economic debacle. If people actually worked the system responsibly, loans would be great. However, it is only as good as the people working the system.
Hopefully that didn’t sound too stupid, I am a bit tired since I am not getting much sleep lately.
Banks giving interest is a good idea, but I’m hoping VNV was speaking about credit card companies charging interest…
I will say most credit card companies use interest as really just a way to suck money out of someone for using a system that our economy is nearly based on. That’s wrong. The bank’s rewarding you for investing, perfectly acceptable, after all, since they use your money to lend, it only makes sense.
But… I’m not sure that’s what VNV meant.
Now Credit Cards, I can see those as evil to be stopped so hopefully that is it.
Indeed, I agree with myself and you!
Hopefully no one would actually defend credit card companies, minus their CEOs…
I’ve never heard of any other company using horrible underhanded tactics like credit card companies.
Their payment offices will move addresses usually around 3 times a month so that when people mail their payments in, the office has moved and the payment gets redirected, and by the time it reaches its final destination, the payment is late and a late fee is applied to the order.
Also a lot of them will make due dates on bank holidays to make sure payments can’t be scheduled or made. It’s a really dirty business and I’m boggled by the fact that we’ve based a lot of basics on this system.
Ooh Max! The credit card companies wouldn’t really be that mean . . . would they??!
I’m pretty sure VNV was talking about *all* interest, not just consumer loans. Look at what he says: “expecting to get more than you put in is a sign of greed”, meaning that our savings accounts make us all greedy, because we get ever so slightly more out than we put in. And “the end result is the reward”, meaning that we’re greedy for wanting *any* return on our money.
Credit cards are “evil” like subprime mortgages are “evil” — yes, they can, and have, been done to fleece people, and that’s wrong, but they also extend financing to people who wouldn’t normally qualify for
oops…
Make that “to people who wouldn’t normally qualify for traditional loans”. When I hear “it’s evil”, I can’t help but also hear “because it’s not necessary for middle-class folks like myself, it must be evil, and screw anybody else who can actually make use of it”.
Dhoti, perhaps the ‘evil’ of credit cards includes the practices Maxwell refers to? I did give a cheeky reply to Max’s post above, but I am in complete agreement with what he said. Credit serves a purpose for some people, but they often end up in a worse position thanks to the practices of the credit companies.
Exactly my point — outlaw the practices, not the instruments.
Max’s anecdotes to the contrary (moving three times a month, every month? Really? Can you imagine what a logistical hassle that would be?), that behavior isn’t exactly industry-standard. My primary credit card has been due on the 10th of the month, every month, for the last 10 years. The couple of times I’ve paid late, I’ve called and they’ve said “no problem, sir, we’ll reverse the fee and take care of that for you”. (Granted, I’m paying an annual fee to a non-fly-by-night credit card company, so I’m sure that factors in.)
One practice that really #@$%£ing annoys me is the way some credit card companies will increase a person’s credit limit when it is blatantly obvious that the person cannot handle it. Up to the limit already, making only the ‘minimum payment due’ each month, or sometimes being late and getting hammered with ridiculously high charges.
Sorry about the rant, but I once worked as a financial counsellor for people with debt problems. I left that job over ten years ago, but I still get incensed about matters.
**runs off in search of truckloads of caffeine and chocolate**
You referring to the soldiers or the dickweed who wrote the LOL?
It was written for the combined. “If the soldiers in the pic had written the statement the lol insinuated they did, then I would respond with my posted caption.
Military…awesome…bad@ss..heroes…better than me…cooler than me…braver than me…have hotter women than me…my job = meaningless..blah blah blah.
I get it, really! I don’t need to be reminded every other day.
Tell me about it. It is always pleasant to be reminded of how insignificant you and all your problems are…
Ironically, it’s all those random shots of soldiers that are attached to the lol’s telling me how expendable -I- am. Where are these photos being taken again? -Who- is the expendable one? These guys might as well be dressed in red shirts considering how much concern is given to their well being over the well being of the bourgeois state that controls them.
Oooooh, good point.
VERY good point. But aren’t we all expendable as far as the state goes?
Oh yeah. But at least we aren’t getting placed directly in harm’s way. Only the -really- expendable get that honor.
Soldiers have good training, backup and weapons, and they’re doing a straightforward job which they signed up to do. Stress is a condition where you may have several courses of action open to you but each one will involve getting your ass kicked. Like being in a low-paid customer facing job where customers and managers are all giving you a hard time and the pay is lousy anyway, but if you don’t do it you’re out on the street. So being a soldier = scary, probably, possibly even heroic, but not stressful. Not compared with millions of civilians.
And we ALL get that!
Sorry, but you’re way off base here, because you’re ignoring responsibility to others, which is where the real stress comes from. No matter how well trained and armed those soldiers are, as few of them as possible are being sent into harm’s way, so the responsibility they shoulder for each other’s lives is immense.
If the soldier on point in that photo screws up, it’s the guys behind him who pay the price. Yes, your customer service drone is in a stressful situation, but it doesn’t compare to knowing that your screwup could cost your friends their arms, their legs, or their lives.
Soldiers have historically suffered a great deal from stress: an example might be the trenches of WW1 where after months of crouching frightened for their lives from shelling, soldiers (often volunteers or conscripts who had no idea what they were getting themselves into) had no choice but to go over the top and charge machine gun posts or face a firing squad. Thankfully the Army has learned a lot about dealing with stress of that sort. The stress that soldiers have to put up with these days is, whilst sometimes intense, not often of long duration. And they get support. Many civilians have long-term lower grade stress from which the ‘fight or flight’ reaction is not available (OK. so their lives are not at stake..) which can be very debilitating, and help is often not available.
You’re still missing the big picture, because you’re only considering individual responsibilities and individual consequences. Until you grasp that, your comparison is meaningless.
Stress affects individuals, by definition.
*nods* Also structural beams. But I’m guessing you knew that.
I vaguely remember something about that. But these days I pay engineers to worry about it!
Okay, let me try again, with smaller words: when you make a mistake at your job, and the price for your mistake is paid by other people, that’s a whole different kind of stress your examples don’t consider. It’s called “being responsible for other people”, and that’s why being a soldier is stressful.
Do you now understand why that’s a kind of stress that most of your “millions of civilians” don’t have to deal with?
No. Plenty of civilians have that too. Just one example: my father was a railway signalman. That job carries responsibility for others’ lives. Staying alert for a solitary 12-hour night shift would be stressful in my book, if that’s what stress is. But I don’t think it is. But I’m too bored to argue, it stresses me out.
I don’t agree. Lots of people have jobs where they can make a mistake and other people pay the price. E.g., pilots, engineers (especially of commuter planes), truck drivers (my brother used to haul 100K lb loads – if you think someone else won’t be regretting that changing lanes by mistake, wow), medical professionals, school bus drivers (all bus drivers)…the list is pretty long.
Very few of us lead lives that are free of consequences for other people. Heck, driving your car is fraught with possibilities for your mistakes to cost other people. (Unfortunately most people drive as if they don’t consider that, but it’s true.)
That’s all still different from being tasked with the protection of people deliberately put in harm’s way, but point taken.
Still, I think we’re both agreeing that keith’s definition of what constitutes a “stressful” job is woefully inadequate.
Oh please…
Nope. I’m going with her. (Oooo, la, la.)
Wait, what? I hope you’re not calling me a her?
What? Why does everyone keep picking on me today? I was agreeing with YOU, not Dhoti.
(The ooo la la was acknowledging the double entendre, which I guess was not that evident.)
I has a sad.
Don’t has a sad. Me no understand. You said ‘I’m going with her’ and I kind of thought that you were agreeing with me (yippee) and in that case I thought you thought that I was a HER and I was just saying I’m not a her I’m a he and now I’m all lost and confused and stressed cos you know I love you really.
Sorry. Gender confusion. I will blame it on my migraine. You can have chocolate cream pie too!
Thanks! Just a little piece then.. *noms 270º*
Schroedinger’s cat escaped it’s box and stole Kiethys pie!
That’s impossible. The cat in the box is dead.
Are you sure? Did you open the box and check?
Yes, but . . .
Dammit!!
That’s changed the whole experiment!
Now I have to start over!
::snapsfingers::
New cat, please!
Why the hell should I care if my decisions affect others? They’re my decisions to make, not theirs. If others don’t like them they’ll complain at me, so the stress goes full circle. Beyond that, if the effects don’t concern me at all, why should I care about them?
I assume you’re being rhetorical?
Either way, being specifically tasked with the protection of others who are being willingly and deliberately put in harm’s way is a whole other kind of stress than your “garden variety” vehicular manslaughter sort of responsibility.
I’m not being rhetorical. Please gave me a rational explanation for why one would care if their actions affected another individuals if the effect did not come full circle? I don’t comprehend why you would propose such a course of action.
“Okay, let me try again, with smaller words: when you make a mistake at your job, and the price for your mistake is paid by other people, that’s a whole different kind of stress your examples don’t consider.” <—- Why should I care if it never end up inconveniencing me? Please explain.
Um, I guess if you ran over your neighbor’s kid but were never caught (hence it never ‘came full circle’), you would be okay with that? I guess if you’re a psychopath.
Either I don’t understand your question or I am rapidly leaving this conversation.
It would definitely go full circle in that case. It would take the form of a lawsuit…
No, please re-read: “but were never caught (hence it never ‘came full circle’)”
Heh, these past few weeks… If I screwed up my job… the nation wouldn’t be getting their ration of H1N1 Vaccine… which as we all know… will ZOMFG IT’S GOING TO KILL ALL THE CHILDREN AND DE WIMMENZ!!!!!
Well, I am a member of a facebook group called “I didn’t get the H1N1 vaccine because I don’t want to turn into a zombie”, so there’s that….
But do you classify yourself as a child or a “wimmen”? Cause if you’re neither, then you’re safe.
I thought it was just the pregnant ‘wimmenz’?
I’m an ex-pregnant wimminz, where does that put me on the zombie scale?
You know that feeling you get when you take to much cough medicine? About there.
So what you’re saying is by not screwing up you have basically condemned to death, and I quote ALL THE CHILDREN AND DE WIMMENZ?
We get it. Jesus Christ, do we need anymore “lols” to compare a soldiers life to standard life. It’s obviously harder. These are a passive aggressive attempt to instill some type of guilt in the anti-war people.
Not just the anti-war people. Pretty much everyone who isn’t in the armed forces. It’s a constant soldier>you thing and it pisses me off. So because I have other things I want to do with my life besides go to war that makes me a bad person? WTF?
My bro’s in the marines and is being shipped out to Afghanistan next year… so vicariously Max > everyone who’s not in the military as well..
SCORE!
Okay, so it goes:
Active military > retired military > Max > people other than Max with immediate family in military > people with extended family in military > everyone else who just doesn’t count at all?
So, where do the cats fit in?
The cats fit in the Shepard’s pie…..
What? They’re good!
They aren’t cats! They’re land fish! *will continue to be amused by PETA’s sea kitten campaign for years to come*
*is easily amused*
This lol actually supports my anti-war predispositions.
How so?
I’m also a little sick of these type of lol’s. WE GET IT! Soilders put their lives on the line every day for me to type on this computer skipping out on my projects at work. We appreciate it. We love them for it.
But we also have bad days and we have a right to talk about it. Which I will.
My uncle just passed away and it was on Thanksgiving morning. I’ve had friends who were shot and killed in front of me. I grew up in the projects. Am I now some sort of a$$hole who doens’t appreciate soilders if I tell a perons how I grew up rough and the man who was like a father to me died in another country and I was never able to say goodbye?
These type of captions went from being cute & appreciative to completely asinine.
I has a sad for you (yup, been checking out the kitties again). And I totally agree. Enough is enough.
Hey, at least Rando didn’t get trampled on Black Friday.
Oh yeah…and they have better benefits and retirement than I do, too.
I work at Sears. Nobody gets trampled on Black Friday. The worst that might happen is I might have someone bump into me. LOL
It’s way more the mental & emotional strain than anything. That and getting up at fvcking 2 on the morning after Thanksgiving to go to work.
*makes notes* Rando works at Sears… *buys eggs* HUH? What? Oh, I’m not doing anything. Yeah, uh, I like deviled eggs.
Yes, I work at one of the many Sears stores in the St. Louis area. Feel free to egg all of them in an attempt to find mine.
@Justa–I have the idea that Rando might LIKE it if you egged his store? But I think he would like it more if had to drive around and egg all of them!
“if YOU had to drive around”
Fingers typing faster than brain can read. *sighs*
He would probably ride with me, and give directions.
Okay, between stores there’s a Jack in the Box here because we’re gonna get hungry.
Oh yeah, Bacon Ultimate Cheeseburger FTW!
Now I want an Oreo shake!
Hehehe. Who said anything about egging the store? Cars are much better targets! Oh, did I say that out loud?
I drive either the blue Toyota Rav4 or the black Mercedes Benz. *snickers*
I’m gonna need one huge can of shaving cream for this project. *sigh*
Deviled eggs? That’s a whole gross of eggs! Do you live off of those things?
Love em.
Good man JAC… good man…
*pats JAC on the back, then steals a few deviled eggs and hauls ass*
Hey man! I would have shared with you! Remember, I’m not a socialist, you don’t have to steal from me to get it.
I wonder if soldiers like to relax with video games like ‘Git Them Fries – McDonalds Hero’ or ‘World of Data Processing – Rogue Boss’
Call of retail 2: black friday just came out last week! That game is teh l33t.
Or how about “Splinter Format Cell – Excel 09 edition”, or perhaps “Dead Man’s Walk – Janitor of the Morgue”
It wasn’t as good as Sears of War.
Dude the co-op on that ROCKS!
Firemen get the great hero LOLs
military dudes do too
Military chicks with huge knockers rideing bombs, check!
what about the police ?
how come the guys chaseing down the pedophiles, murderers, rapeists, kids with skateboards, thieves, crazy or drunk drivers?
no love for them? awww did they give you a speeding ticket?
WELL STOP BREAKING THE LAW!
anyways…yes bitter troll is bitter…police put themselves on the line ALOT more then firemen and army guys. they do it every day, so how about a lil cop love?
Cop ‘tache rides for everyone!
(I completely agree with you. Cops deal with the dregs of society every day, with people who automatically assume they’re bad news at best and the enemy at worst.)
Good point….the most recent examples being Lakewood officers Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42.
I think that guy should have an accident with his own firearm when they find him. Save the state the trouble of paying for a trial. Either that, or be found after some crazier guy living in the forest found him, hung him up by his toes, and roasted him alive. You know, accidentally and all. I hope the bastard dies of his gunshot wound in some hole somewhere, like the dog that he is.
On a much more serious note, I hope we all remember the officers who died, and pray for their families (those of us who pray).
I’d rather see the guy suffer a slow and excruciating death. And when he cries out for mercy, the only reply he gets is, “Awwwww, bad luck!”
Who were apparently killed by a convicted felon pardoned by Mike Huckabee.
Out of context. But thank you for your trolling. We always appreciate another layer of spew on the lawn.
How is a factual statement out of context? He WAS pardoned by Huckabee. I even tried to link the story. If this is your idea of trolling you’re sadly insulated.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction to people who seem to be injecting partisan bullcrap randomly into a discussion. Here’s a story about it, complete about how it will probably damage Huckabee’s bid for any future off he may seek, rather like it did with Dukakis in 1988.
{http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/30/will-washington-shooting-damage-huckabee-bid/}
My issue with your post is that it seems out of place, and partisan, and accusitory.
Um, I was going to say, I did read what SD said in the paper this morning. The party affiliation of the person who pardoned him is irrelevant (and SD didn’t mention it). What’s sad is we have lots of people in jail for such heinous crimes as smoking pot and this is the kind who gets pardoned?
The thread did talk about the killings; I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to express anger that the killer was pardoned for a previous violent crime.
All I’ve heard today is “Republican Mike Huckabee yadda yadda”, or other stories emphasizing what party he’s from. I agree that the party affiliation isn’t the important part, but please forgive my bristling about it being emphasized in this case, especially when I had to dig up what party Rod Blago belonged to when that scandal went down. Granted, that didn’t deal with any deaths, but there is a definite underlying glee in the MSM when a Republican screws something up. Forgive my immediate jumping to a conclusion. I’m just pissed that the guy got free in the first place, regardless of who let him free.
I think the real question is… Is he a republican… or a republican’t?
Right now, he’s a Republi-never-will.
It’s what you get when you live in a country known as “the melting pot” A clusterf*ck of ideologies, and belief tied in a nice little pork barrel ribbon.
That may be what you’ve been listening to, but it’s not what SD said. You projected that onto him (her?).
PS Can’t imagine what you listened to that didn’t CONSTANTLY point out that Blago was not only a Democrat but from Obama’s home state. OVER AND OVER AND OVER ….
For the first three days of the scandal (the Blago thing), I couldn’t figure out who he “belonged” to simply by watching CNN, HLN, or the network MSM. Of course Fox was broadcasting it to the hills, but at that point I wasn’t watching Fox News at all, so I had to get on the internet to satisfy my curiosity.
As far as what SD said, I realize that. I was reacting to one statement I saw that wasn’t in context with anything else he’s (she’s?) said today. I’m out of the loop on weekends, in case you didn’t know
My catching up on Monday’s consists of a quick skim of the posts, and then watching the Recents to join in conversations already in progress. It’s definitely not foolproof.
Hell that’s my everyday froo… the joys of having to report to work at 6 and staying till the wee hours of the morning.
We’re almost in the same boat. I’m in at 3:30 pm and out around 2 am. I miss all of the good conversations on the weekdays, but I’m offline on the weekends. I have to keep my BP from causing my eyes to explode out of my head and punch holes through the opposite wall, don’tcha know.
Actually I listened to leftwing talk radio for a couple of hours today (driving to clients’ houses) and never heard Huckabee mentioned. Guess that’s why I thought you were over-reacting.
But, the pie crust is done and I finished my job for tonight, so it must be time to make chocolate cream pies and wash dishes.
Glad I don’t have to go to work at 6am!
But just think, Max, when you return tomorrow there will be many mini chocolate cream pies! (I make tiny pie crusts in a mini muffin pan. Very cute.) Now, froo, I’m sorry, but as Rando pointed out, the sharing of food is very socialist, so you might endanger your conserva-card by partaking. 
Oh well next week, I’m getting moved to the full 3rd shift. I’ll come in from 5pm, and leave at 5am! *smiles then realizes what he just said and begins to grimace* yay….
What are you talking about, Mabsba? I’m a Conservative. I ALWAYS get the upper crust! *yoink* *runs away giggling, noming crust*
Mabsba, believe it or not, I heard about Huckabee being the one who pardoned the guy on FoxNews. My initial reaction was “Well FU(K.”
Um. Don’t listen to Fox. Too little actual news. BBC news is my favorite. Most news per minute. Most cable news is just infotainment anyway. And all sooooooooo dang biased.
Now I really must go make chocolate for the pie crusts. The new cat has expressed interest in helping.
I listen to FoxNews about like I listen to MSNBC. They’re a good place to start, but I certainly don’t stop there. It’s been interesting watching Fox and MSNBC lately, especially considering that I had never watched either until about three months ago. I actually had to stop watching them while I was pregnant, because the stress was causing premature labor
HAY! DID U GAIZ NO 2 PEEPOL GOT INTO TEH WITE HOWS WITH NO INVITATION!?
I do…. cause that’s all over the frickin news like it’s a national phenomenon…. just like the imaginary kid in the balloon.
Can we ship the party crashers and balloon boy off to an island somewhere with no cameras and leave them there?
I was thinking more of a differently planet…. But I suppose we shouldn’t waste that much money on them… And in the boy’s defense, he was only following his attention whoring father’s wishes….
BTW, what is up with these Reality TV show wannabes making it on the news? Doesn’t the media realize, they’re just giving these people what they want? I mean.. cmon!
Considering that the media itself is an attention whore, I think they’re like little parasites feeding off themselves. Maybe one day they’ll eat each other to death and leave us the hell alone.
What happened was that Fox decided that news was supposed to be a money maker, just like all other programming, and thence started the slide…which everyone else joined. I mean, why bother to actually investigate stories when instead you can just say, “We heard there might be a boy in this balloon”? Geez. the Mythbusters could have told any of the so-called news stations that that balloon couldn’t lift a kid that size.
Oh, and you silly conservative, froo, chocolate cream pie HAS no upper crust. But we liberals are compassionate and share anyway. (But not cool enough for eating yet.) Hee hee.
I love the seven degrees of separation… especially in politics… considering that it usually goes from “Subject… to Political Party of Subject… to case in point”. You usually don’t need the other 4 degrees.
The MSM “forgets” to say what political party the person is if it’s a Dem, and Fox “accidentally” switches the party affiliations if it’s a Republican who screwed up. I hate people.
You know, I never noticed it, but it’s true… It’s like they’re both subliminally trying to get us to do our own research for the truth… but who in the hell wants to research their own truth! MARK SANFORD IS A DEMORAT!
…and Rick Santorum is a Republican. o.O
or is.. or isn’t…. or is…. ???
Thanks. Sincerely meant.
Oh, I was just heart-broken when I heard about it on the news last night. I grew up in Pullman and went to school in Seattle, so I know how little your place is. Although it’s a tragedy anywhere, it seems as if it’s so much harder for small towns.
The Seattle cops and the WA State cops are great, and I’m sure they’ll get the bastard soon! Maybe they could just drop him in the Sound on the way back….
I’m telling you, he needs to die of a “self-inflicted gunshot wound.” In the back of the head.
Pullman???? WHUT? Moscow, here.
Eighties kid from the ‘Scow. lol!
And thanks. My family is freaking the hell out over this. I’ve got members scattered from Vancouver to the Canadian Border. Everybody thinks the West Side is a big-a@@ city, but you’re right. Lakewood’s a small town, like Pull-scow.
If you lived on the West Side of Washington State right now, you wouldn’t see it as out of context at all. We find the fact that this animal was pardoned at all abhorrant, nevermind by whom. Dead cops aren’t partisian, they’re dead. And factually stating which a@@hole put the accused back onto the street is in no way out of place. Damn right it’s an accusatory statement re: the sad state of our society, that he wasn’t put down like the rabid dog he so obviously is but rather released back into society to irreperably harm four families, nine innocent children, their friends, and my family’s peaceful community. Am I pissed? Hells yeah!
I guess you didn’t see my treatise on how to kill the bastard, slowly and in his own juices. I hope he dies like a dog, and if he doesn’t, I hope that when he’s caught he has an unfortunate accident involving falling on his own knife 37 times. Accidentally, of course. What he did is unforgivable.
Is this a good time to volunteer to lock myself in a room with him? I know how to break every single bone in the body… in most cases, 1 at a time!
After you’re done with that could you dip him in honey and leave him on top of a red ant hill? They’ll kill him, it just might a few days.
I saw it and agreed.
Where do you get sad insulation? Does it go in the attic or over the windows?
Sad insulation goes in the basement, of course, and exists by eating Hot Pockets and lint.
Froo:
For some reason, this made me chortle (yes, I said “chortle”, damn it!) until my couch shook.
Fun Fact! Chortle was a word invented by Lewis Carrol in the Jabberwocky poem!
Jabberwocky makes my head hurt, normally. But I do like “chortle”.
Wait–OW! Delayed reaction.
*looks at cop living next door* I would love to partake in a little “cop love”.
go ask him for a birthday mustache ride
lulz
“Excuse me sir, I know we haven’t formally met but I live nextdoor. It’s my birthday, and I was wondering if I could trouble you for a mustache ride.”
*gets her video camera, goes over to wait by Mina’s house*
Dang! Wish I had a cop next door. F&(IKer that broke in to the house the day of my grandmother’s funeral might not have gotten away.
Shout-out to F&(Ker: You can KEEP the painkillers. Come back . . . we have more! Just bring me my camera back, you ba$tard! Or the SD card inside, deal?
“And please…. please…. step on the pressure plate in the hallway this time! MWUAHAHAHAHA!”
No, Max, because he had to bring the camera!
[I had a really good pic of my fiance's butt in there, that I hadn't transferred to my laptop yet! After I get the camera {or card}, THEN I can disembowel him with a rusty spoon.]
cr@p, that should read “officers” not offices
Offither, I’m not as think as you drunk I am…..
In fact I’m sottally tober! *hic*
They don’t like it when you barf on their shoes.
Tha’ wasn’ their shoes. It was a pair of *hic* shiny rocksh!
Well let me go enlist to be a crash test dummy, and then complain about how others should respect my stressful job.
Bull semen collectors.
Yeah, tell about your bad day at the office again.
Michael Moore/Rush Limbaugh’s plumber.
Yeah, tell me about your bad day at the office again.
I love the bipartisanship that just went down here.
Fat ass loudmouths tend to be a bipartisan issue (even though I do kinda like Michael Moore in dirty librul way).
Those 2 egos that close would be like matter and anti matter meeting.
like when a douchebag and asshat collide?
Then you get an assbag and a douchehat.
Don’t say “went down” after postings with the words: “bull semen” and “Michael Moore/Rush Limbaugh”.
::shuddersuncontrollably&begsforbrainbleach::
Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh are professional bull semen collectors?
LMAO!
Shut up with honouring the military already. If they don’t like the stress, maybe they shouldn’t enlist. If they can’t live without the money, they should move to a better country.
I can not have respect for soldiers. Yes, we might owe our lives to those murdering testosterone-loaded jackasses (that includes the women), but they kill people.
You think the soldiers had a bad day? The Afghan/Iraqi civilians have to go through the same thing, and they don’t have body armor and guns to protect them, AND don’t get any money for it.
FOAD.
What you mean to say to Philip is
STFUGTFOESADITOP(tm).
Probably, but I didn’t want to get slapped with a trademark infringement suit. As a brainwashed wage slave, I drained the legal defense fund to buy crap off of QVC.
OMG, I forgot to check to see what the TSV is! Thanks for reminding me!!!!
*runs off to QVC’s website*
That’s a good call. I have a large legal team in place just in case of trademark infringement. And buy some crap from Sears instead of QVC so I can keep being a wage slave too!
That’s what those soldiers are doing already, so why would I try and fill that niche?
you should check your facts before you post i know quite a few military personal who have had multiple tours in Iraq and none of them are “jackasses” or “murderers” and most are normal exept the ones who have lost it cause of what happens over there. one off the closer ones cant drive, he is to scared of being blown up, and he is home! have some respect, they may not be fighting for a cause that you like but they are fighting for you weather or not they like you.
please excuse my english
They shoot people. Those people die. And they do so willingly and knowingly. Therefore, murdering jackasses.
Do you respect a murderer (for the law) because he doesn’t like the sight of blood? Or a pedophile because he’s afraid of the dark? Or a construction worker who lost his legs because he intentionally disregarded safety procautions?
Those soldiers chose to be traumatized. I’m not going to respect them for it.
I’m not Afghan or Iraqi, so they do not fight for me. Not that that matters for the argument.
I’m a little worried — this level of computer literacy, primitive as it is, has been heretofore unknown among chavs. Does this mean they’re coming in force?
We come with fire, we come with axes. Hacking, breaking, burning.
Most of the time my comments go a little more appreciated. Or ignored. Are you all Americans? Because in the rest of the world, violence (and the ones that preform it) is a little less appreciated than in America.
Maybe it’s the legal guns, maybe it’s the fact that 52% of Americans has experimented with pot (as opposed to 20% of Dutch people), maybe it’s the fact that 1% of your citizens are armed forces and another 1% are in jail, or maybe it’s the distance from civilization.
Or maybe I am an asshole, because I’ve never actually talked to someone who voluntarily went into an army. (my grandpas were drafted, and my dad was drafted in peacetime). All I know is, I hate soldiers and I feel like I have a pretty good reason, namely a moral axiom which says:
“People who voluntarily kill people are evil”.
The fact that you notice my literacy probably means you were looking for illiteracy. Funny how spelling can affect the value of comments, rather than the actual content.
Yeah, go talk to people who have voluntarily joined the armed forces and then tell them their evil. After that come back and tell us how that conversation went. In this country we’re lucky to be able to have a volunteer army. It means that people who don’t want to fight, people who could never kill someone aren’t going to be drafted to do so. The statistic for pot smokers being compared with violence shows you know absolutely nothing about the drug and it’s effects. Pot smokers are the most non-violent people I know. People who are high don’t want to do anything but sit around, laugh and eat. An ability to look up a bunch of percentages does not mean you know how to interpret those numbers. It seems one the the PK mantras is causation =/= correlation. This is something important that you might want to consider learning.
I have a love of Jamocha milkshakes – I might get violent if I cannot attain one.
Oh for the love of God, who the hell left the gate open? Who ever did, can you please remove the garbage and put the lock on?
Oh, and Philip? FOAD
Crap! That was my fault! Sorry. *beas garbage with a shovel, throws it into a wood chipper and sets it all out on the the curb to be picked up in the morning, then closes and locks gate*
You know what, asshole, I don’t care much for the war they’re fighting, but I have plenty of respect for the troops as they’re are willing to do something that I don’t see myself ever doing. God forbid if our nation’s freedom ever really was threatened. I have a feeling you’d be first in line to start crying for the armed forces to protect your sorry ass.
*Puts A$$hole Philip’s name down on “leave outside fortress gates” list*
Sorry, Phil, you sh1teater, you are officially not allowed to be protected by ANY armed services personnel should such a situation ever arise.
If something like that ever happened could you imagine how evil we would be called by the rest of the world?
Even if it was just like, ok you talked bad about the armed forces so you get drafted.
Oh, yes, definitely, ADM. But it’s what the Troll McTrollisons like that deserve, so it’s nice to pretend. Also, Phil would have to get drafted. I couldn’t see him volunteering should his country need him.
Officially, eh? If so, I wish to be officially excused from having to pay taxes for them too. (1/3 of the US budget, or 1/10 of the Dutch budget).
I’m a troll because I have negative respect for people who voluntarily kill people?
As someone going to college and showing potential, I wouldn’t have to kill people if I would get drafted (thank the gods).
And as person living in the 21st century, my country would either be nuked, surrender, or never be threatened anyway (in which case, the standing army covers it and I won’t get drafted).
“As someone going to college and showing potential”
You keep thinking that. There were numerous college students, from storied and important schools such as Oxford & Princeton & Cambridge & Harvard that were on the front lines during WWII. Puts things in perspective with your so-called potential.
As for your country…when faced with annihilation by a drastically larger and better equipped army, I don’t blame them for surrendering to save lives. But an overwhelming number of the citizens were members of the resistance, which based on your attitude you wouldn’t join either.
And my grandfather was placed in the rear lines (guarding the car park on a safe island) because he was a cleric for the government.
Besides, it’s not as if our government would have the balls to reallow the draft anyway.
“An overwhelming number”. Quite underwhelming, actually. Sure, they disliked the Germans and didn’t actually help them (well, sometimes they ratted out Jews for 2.50 guldens (a week to a month’s worth of food)) that much, but actually resist them significantly?
Only one of my great grandparents was in the resistance. And from what I’ve heard, that’s above average.
Killing people and hiding people from being killed and distributing news. My other grandfather’s father was in the resistance and didn’t kill anyone (according to his biography).
I don’t know if I would join a resistance movement. It kind of depends on the captors. (also remember: the Taliban is Afghanistan’s resistance movement, more or less).
Tell that to the citizens of Afghanistan who are told by the Taliban that if they don’t kill a US soldier the Taliban will kill members of their family.
What? Kill people and driving around a warzone? I don’t see why you would want to do either of those. It doesn’t require bravery, it requires stupidity and an ability to shut down your morals.
I’m not American : ) . And my nation would do what it always has done: surrender.
I can understand why you would want to become a soldier. That doesn’t mean I respect it. “Enemy” soldiers are just as good as “friendly” soldiers, in many cases. Both deserve to live equally. The only reason why I respect our soldiers more than Taliban soldiers is because the Taliban army tends to abuse the local population.
As for appealing the armed forces to do their job: we pay them money to do their job. So they should do their job. If they refuse, they’re assholes. (and if they don’t, they’re just jackasses).
If the garbagemen stopped picking up trash, we would soon be smothered in garbage. And we would call out for garbagemen to take it away. That doesn’t mean we respect the garbagemen for what they do.
Why is it so terribly difficult for people to spell “yeah” properly???
Yea verily I say unto thee, good point. Puerile but good.
Forsooth! My clothes have become smitten with smut!
Wherefore hath thou not stain removal pens in thine rear pocket with which thou mightest scour said smut from thine clothing?
Couldn’t agree more. There should be an extra button on the voting page that says ‘For the love of God, NO!’, which deducts 100 votes and sends a hand out of the screen to smack the poster in the face.
Can we submit this suggestion to ICHC (‘cept for the last bit. I can’t imagine the coding problems with that)?
So tell me, how’s life in the Diplomatic Corps these days?
naw people just getting sick of the ” i can make a crappy lolame that sucks the troops slong, people will vote it up cause they dont wanna feel bad for not voteing for a troop pic, cause if you dont do that your not supporting them then your not a real american and might as well of been on that plane in 9/11 , so you best vote for this stuff over and over so i can get front page as the first step in my plan for total world conquest!”
I’m thinking his posting to Yemen is causing him some grief..
is it good grief?
Are they doing something weird with the Large Hadron Collider today? I just read a post from Again….and kind of agreed with it. *faints*
*throws strawberry KoolAid all over Diss*
*sputters*
Thanks, Froo!
wet koolaid teeshirt contest?
But it’s red koolAid and is probably carcinogenic..
We need grape Kool Aid in here! STAT!
Ya know, I found this all a bit scary. Dhoti was making sense to me… I suppose that is a good thing though I could also suppose this means I need to leave more often. Either way, glad to see things more or less getting along and I best vanish now before I manage to start some flame war with all this gasoline I seem to carry these days.
Eh, Dhoti does make very good points often, I will say (And I make this point directly TO Dhoti, namely as friendly advice), he usually comes off as condescending and insulting. But when he’s not he’s a very genuine, funny, and witty character. And Dhoti, I do wish you would post on here more often when people haven’t pushed your buttons, you’re much more of a joy that way
I’ll never tell…
Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger. Take that as you will.
*swoons*
Something about Us
Digital Love
Around the World
Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
One More Time…
It is all about where you put it and how you use it.
One more time, those are just killers and if they feel stress let them go home.
No one asked them to come and they are not welcome, GO HOME…
nobody cares
If I wanted to get preached at, I would go get religion.
And at least some churches give you WINE.
perhaps if they had finished high school they’d qualify for an office job
I believe a GED or high school diploma are required to join the armed forces in the US.
I’m from the US and I respect our armed forces, but I come here to laugh, not to nod in agreement (which I think is what the creators of these are going for).
Way to demean what other people do to keep America good.
I’d love to go serve, but medical reasons keep me from serving overseas. I do what I can in a lab, helping prove rapists, murderers, arsonists, etc – shouldn’t be out on the streets. And yes, it’s grueling, and a bit monotonous – but you know, I’m not toting a gun around or serving overseas, so I’m not allowed to complain about my career.
How dare I.
it not stressfull until youre in a warzone like Australia? rember the great austrialian war`?
serves you right for going into the country of a sovereign people and slaughtering them…