Step down for Charles? I think not!
(Queen Elizabeth II)
But he’s so much more hip than you
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Seriously, why would you want to give up being a figurehead? Its not like there is an age requirement. As long as she can look remotely senile, there is no reason for her not to sit there.
And when she dies, I’d rather have her stuffed and retained as a figurehead than have Charles!
Let me just ask — you guys are quite sure she hasn’t already been carefully and professionally taxidermied, right?
I have my theory that’s what they did to the Queen Mum for the last few years.
On another note, the Royals live so long now what’s say we skip Charles III and move straight to William V?
I could see that working. Charles Great Uncle was forced to abdicate when he choose to marry a women who had been divorced twice, and Charles Is married to a woman who has been divorced so there is a precedent.
No precedent ini Engrand! ! Is call Plime Minister, sirry!
Oh, right, sorry! I’m going to need to learn all this if I’m gonna live there! So, you have a Plime Minster instead of a precedent, do you also have something that takes the place of cengress?
Nothing takes the place of congress. There will be much of that. I hope…
Oh quite a bit of it I should think. I was thinking at least a month just for the honeymoon
This parasitic whore (it’s ok, I’m English) has about as much to do with politics as I do.
Yes, lets make sure that for the duration of our society we have someone from this particular family bloodline pretend to be in power. They can be wealthy, get more wealthy, live in a castle and wear a crown. Wouldn’t that be cool?
Silly English types.
Well I never bleedin’ voted for ‘er!
You don’t vote for a queen!
Well, homecoming queen you do.
Do homecoming queens ever post on PK?
Homecoming queens don’t do anything where you can’t see their perky assets, so no.
But that only buys them another ten or so years… (Twenty, if they marry well.)
Or if they go for fake-perky.
But fake perky only looks good, it doesn’t feel so great from what I understand.
“You know how, when you feel a boob, it feels… kinda like a bag of sand?”
“OH KELLY CLARKSON!!!!”
Real perky (and pinky) FTW! (clicky)
That is SO twisted!
That makes me want to curl up in a ball and cry.
Probably their point.
If I could I would.. I don’t want to lose the Queen’s birthday as a holiday!
Well, wouldn’t you get Charles’ birthday as a holiday then?
But then we’d have to celebrate Charles’ birthday.
Oh. Good point.
Exactly! I guess if William became king that would be ok.. he’s not as abhorent as Charles.
I mean absolutely no offense to any of our UK friends, but Charles always reminds me of this Monty Python sketch.
LOL!!
Diss, that’s a documentary, believe me.
He’s certainly much easier on the eyes.
And we wouldn’t have to see Camillia *shudders*
Yes, much better to think about William. *stares off dreamily*
harry’s the better looking of the two. he’s aging into his mother whereas william is aging into his father… at not yet 30 his bald spot is amazing. and he has MORE than enough money that he could have quietly been getting hair plugs every year since he was 24 or so…
That’s true. I still wouldn’t turn either one of the down. Though doesn’t Harry have red hair? I think I might be lusting after the wrong brother. I love a man with red hair.
The redder the hair, the greater the gifts, you know.
William is just a dim bulb like his parents. Queenie is OK because she’s not always trying to influence things, nor is she always stuffing her opinions in our faces. Charles and Camilla would be a worldwide embarrassment, and there’s no guarantee William would be any better. Monarchy sucks.
William was able to earn a fairly solid degree from St. Andrews, which is one of the top universities in the world. Charles has shown considerable poor judgment in his private life, but he isn’t stupid–he did earn a second at Cambridge, which is no mean accomplishment. He has done a lot of good work through his various charities. Give credit where credit is due.
You may think that monarchy sucks, but really, a republic does too–just in different ways.
He got a 2nd in a degree created specially for him on the history of the royal family.
His bodyguard took the same test (since he’d had to go to all the lectures and stuff) and got a 2-1
That sucks!! She’s on all our money but we don’t get her b-day as a holiday. I cry foul!!
Really?? But you’re part of the Commonwealth. I thought all y’all got that day as a holiday. I know in Australia and NZ they do.
Yeah, you’re totally getting ripped off.
*stands in solidarity with her Canadian brothers and sisters*
WE used to be a British colony! We should get the Queen’s birthday off, TOO! When is it?
WE don’t get her birthday as a day off either. I don’t even know when it is. Some time in April I think.
That’s her actual birth date. But then there’s the public holiday that’s on the 2nd Saturday in June (same for all the UK monarchs). Although the Aussies & Kiwis celebrate it on a Monday in June.
And we so need a long weekend in June, too. That’s it, I’m moving to Australia.
Welcome. We love Canadians
Cool…..um, do you have an extra room I could use while I look for work?
We have it too we just havn’t updated it since Queen Victoria I (ie. Victoria Day, May 24th)
We get Victoria’s birthday off in May…but it’s never the same date…..very odd.
Yeah, but you get Maurice Richard’s birthday off, right?
We should. And Ned Hanlon’s birthday. And Billy Bishop.
I wish!
Silly any fecking monarchy. :p
Didn’t Sweden’s prince just marry a single mom who (yay for her) recovered from drug addiction? Or was that Norway…
Norway.
Our “crown princess” (successor to the throne) is getting married the coming summer, though.
Hope there are fun pictures! I enjoyed reading my cousin’s take on the Danish crown prince’s courtship of his wife. A wonderful combination of cynicism and modest affection!
I suspect there will be millions of photos, some are bound to be fun. ;p
Okay, now I’m only saying this because you have the most nearly perfect grammar of any poster here (probably including myself), but usually it’s “this coming summer,” at least here in the US. I’m not sure about the rest…they all talk funny.
Oh, thanks! I did hesitate a bit there, and then went for the bad ole “Meh, they’ll understand what I’m trying to say”. I’ll try to remember the phrase for next time.
OMG, if my tutoring students wrote as well as you do, I would be in seventh heaven. English is the WORST language to learn, I swear.
You’ll enjoy this: my friend was complaining about the way her husband always bickers about what ‘this coming weekend’ means. She (and I) say it’s the one that starts tomorrow; he says it could be either that or the one ‘coming’ next week. It usually devolves to throwing pillows at him at that point.
Thanks for teaching us all how to make links.
lalalalala that women has done more for our country than you will ever do and has given up more than you will ever know so show her some respect!!!
Tony Blair, is that you?
/agree.
Also, don’t think charles is next in line anyway.
If people really didnt like her, they could get rid of her.
Last I checked he was the Prince of Whales which is basically the position held by whoever is next in line for the throne (unless they’re female obviously, then they’re Princess).
Isn’t Aquaman the Prince of Whales?
*facepalm* Wales…the country. Dunno how that H got in there.
Ok, how do you get rid of a constitutional monarch, other than by regicide (which is illegal, and possibly also an act of treason, which may still carry a death penalty in the UK)?
Ask them nicely?
FIRST!
Not particularly.
Too little, Too late
Inadequate as a remedy and not in time to be effective, as in “The effort to divert the stream into a corn field was too little too late, the houses were already flooded.” This term originated in the military, where it was applied to reinforcements that were insufficient and arrived too late to be of help. [First half of 1900s]
That’s what she said.
*goes to lunch*
ZING!
diss, you make me wanna have your babies.
*wanders back in from Arby’s*
Aw, thanks!
Did you bring me a curly fry?
(don’t worry, i’m not THAT guy who takes the biggest, curliest fry in the box)
*giggles thinking about Steve rootin around in diss’ box*
*hands The Steve a whole order of curly fries*
Nothin’ but the best for you.
Woohoo!
*munches curly fries cheerfully*
Roots around in diss’s box a bit more for fun
*takes pictures*
*audio records the results*
Ahem. I still have chocolate pie that I am willing to trade for incriminating pictures (lost the last bidding war).
*whacks charro over the head, steals camera, emails photos to mabsba*
Did you say chocolate PIE?!?!!!!
With whipped cream! *sends pie and whipped cream to VG*
Um, the whipped cream was supposed to go on the PIE…oh, never mind. More pictures.
Ow! VG that hurt! And I’m hurt. *has a sad*
And now I have no pie. *pouts*
No, no. There’s still pie left! *gives charro pie hidden from teenager*
*noms pie* I love pie! Thanks!
*noms pie. strips and attires self in whipped cream*
Whipped cream and other delights!
Oooh, whipped cream! I loooove whipped cream.
Whipped cream on VG makes whipped cream even better.
*licks*
Mmmmmmm
Yay, PK gals whipped cream party!
*bars all cameras from the room*
Woo Hoo!
*puts on Herb Alpert music, for the sake of tradition*
I like where this thread went…
*Wanders around the room licking whipped cream from nipples…giving the whipped cream applicator fits as she tries to repair all the half missing bikinis*
*oversees production to take a 10% off the top for his “services”*
*defects to Max’s camp and helps him with his “services”*
Well look what happened to Charles the First. And be warned..
As a typical American, I find myself not giving a crap about this picture. *wanders off to do typical American things*
Don’t worry, most Australians don’t either!
Actually, the British government MAKES money off the monarchy. The revenue from the Crown Estates is signed over to the government, which in return pays the Queen a fixed amount. For her entire reign, the revenue from the Crown Estates has been MORE than the Queen’s stipend.
Also, most of the money goes to things like mantainance and repair on the various royal residences–the different castles, palaces, etc.–which as national treasures/historical sites (except for Balmoral & Sandringham, which are the Queen’s private property) and would have to be maintained anyway.
And there are distinct advantages to a constitutional monarchy over a republic. We have seen both Democratic and Republican presidents whose opponents’ contempt for them has infected the office–that is, because they can’t respect the current President, they have trouble respecting the Presidency. In a constitutional monarchy, even if you don’t like the current Prime Minister very much, you can still honor the Queen.
Cool–thanks for the info!
I had read somewhere that the current queen also advises the prime minister–as in ‘this happened 20 years ago, and if you…it will come out OK’. I can see keeping around an intelligent monarch just for that historical perspective factor. Especially since there are always some idjits who have to re-invent the wheel every 5 years!
Except she’s geting to the age where she probably can’t remember what she had for breakfast. And Charles’ opinions on anything – well you might as well ask Bertie Wooster.
I’d ask Bertie Wooster for advice on just about anything. Really. As long as he asks Jeeves before answering, at least… (Yes, I hereby admit to loving the Wodehouse.)
Yay! King Jeeves the first!
Yay for Jeeves! (yet another sign that I’m a geek)
The King Jeeves Bible is my favorite translation.
“Old” doesn’t mean “senile.” By all accounts she’s very much all there.
As for Charles, he’s made some pretty bad misjudgments in his personal life, but he does have a brain. He was able to earn a strong Second from Cambridge, which is no mean accomplishment; he was the first member of the Royal Family to earn a University degree. William was able to graduate from St. Andrews, which is also one of the top universities on the planet. Harry, poor fellow, has a mild learning disability, but he does the best he can with what he has.
As an avid anglophile and frequent tourist* I have to say his campaign for the pubs and the pub tradition made me love him. I can ignore any other silliness he gets up to, just because he cares about the pubs.
*) As frequent as my economy allows for, which isn’t very frequent at all, really…
Old doesn’t mean senile. My mother has a friend who is 98, and still has all of her neurons!
Ya know, I can’t find anything to argue about. I have to concur that isn’t that bad at all. Thanks for the enlightenment.
*squeeze*
*cuddles and bites*
What she said.
…and did you know, part of the Crown Estates are on Manhattan island, purchased by King George III way back in the dim and distant past? They are worth many millions in revenue by themselves.
Also, for the record, her Birthday is April 21st. Or there abouts.
Just thought you’d like to know…
IIRC, it is the land on which Trinity Church, Wall Street is built.
I say old chap. that’s the one with all that treasure underneath, isn’t it? Nicholas Cage had better hand it all over to us, dammit! Jolly good investment, eh what?
Yes you can. The prime minister can ask the monarch to abdicate. As part of the coronation oath, the monarch vows to uphold the law and to reign according to the customs and traditions of the country for the good of the people.
“The Queen can do no wrong”–that means as QUEEN–Elizabeth Mountbatten can. Howver, as Queen she acts only on the advice of her ministers–if they give her bad or incomplete advice, then the wrong is theirs.
“The prime minister can ask the monarch to abdicate.”
Interesting. Afaik, we have no law regulating that. Can you point me to more information on how that is regulated in your system?
“the monarch vows to uphold the law and to reign according to the customs and traditions of the country for the good of the people”
So is it if they break that that the abdication can be requested by the PM? Those seem awfully vague formulations.
Given that there’s no actual constitution, the government can do pretty much what it damn well pleases, in theory, if it can carry Parliament. But it’s all custom and precedent and ‘let’s not rock the boat, old chap’, so we plod onward in time-honoured fashion…
The whole body of law carries the weight of a ‘constitution”. It just requires a different procedures to change the body of law than it does a traditional constitution. It is a lovely tradition that can only be changed, legally, by those that stand to lose from changing it.
Sure, I meant there isn’t one single document. What passes for a ‘constitution’ is a whole rag-bag of stuff. Not to mention EU law, which is gradually creeping in and taking over..
We have a constitution. It’s just that it’s called ‘The Magna Carta’ (The Great Charter) rather than ‘The Constitution’ that’s all. It was signed in 1215 by King John (as in the King John of Robin Hood fame) and all other Constitutions are based upon ours. Even JFK said so about the American one. It was signed at Runnymede and the area was visited by JFK himself and there is a monument to mark the event.
FYI, there are four copies left in existence. One each at two different Cathederals, whose names escape me for the moment, and two at The British Museum.
I’m sure if you google it, you’ll find lots on it.
I don’t recall the specifics, but an example I used earlier in this thread regarding Elizabeths uncle shows the PM and Parliament has quite a bit of power. Basically Edward wanted to marry an American divorcè Wallis Simpson but the English people weren’t happy about it and Parliament and the PM told him he couldn’t marry her and so he abdicated the throne to marry her.
He was a Nazi sympathiser anyway, and a dingbat. If he’d stayed on as King he might have been the last one ever..
As for power, the monarch has none in reality. All that stuff was sorted out in the 17th Century. The monarch reigns but does not rule.
Anyway, my pretty, how’s things? You seem to have been giving away a lot of pie recently – I hope there’s not going to be a shortage? (clicky)
How much of a Nazi sympathizer he was is debatable; and, to be fair, a lot of the worst of the Nazi regime wasn’t known until late in the War and afterwards. If you read some of the early Nazi/Fascist propaganda and try to lay aside your historical knowledge of where it led, it does have a certain appeal to it. Yes, Edward wasn’t all that bright, so it is not surprising.
Mussolini made the trains in Italy run on time; nobody was able to do that before, and nobody since. Give credit where credit is due. After all, as anyone who has tried to take AmTrac knows, we can’t manage it here.
You just nailed why I speak out so much against all the govt run social programs that are so popular now. Those things always start out as nice, and end up, well……..
You make him sound like such a terrible person that even his own father wouldn’t want him to reign! Oh wait…”I pray to God my eldest son will never marry and have children, and that nothing will come between Bertie[George VI] and Lilibet[Elizabeth II] and the throne.”
Don’t worry, there will be plenty of pie. I have created a specially designed Pie safe. I can’t tell you any of the details over the internet in case the pie thief escapes. Also, Creature has offered to make the cake.
That would be shiite I believe.
The n-word or the c-word is, cause I just made a non-showing post. :p
Then it has to be the n-word that’s censored.
When I saw Robin Williams on The Actor’s Studio, he listed THAT as his least favorite word.
Why would anyone hate the word “that”?
And the word twat. Ick.
Although, having said that, I find that “twat” rolls off the tongue ever so pleasingly when referring to certain people I know.
Smarta$$. Because I wasn’t going to repeat what YOU said.
Lol…how about twunt?
Twunt. Interesting..
Ma’s out, Pa’s out, let’s talk rude. Pee po belly bum drawers.
Well said, out of all the options (even as a welsh nationalist )I still prefer constitutional monarchy .An Independant Wales could decide wether to demand a resident Prince (at least he has a place here now) or do something else. I like the idea of the Chief Bard of the Gorsedd holding the office, but no politians that would get us the likes of Thatcher or Blair !! Yes HM Queen Elizabeth II and one day Charles III and William V ,much better. Charles is a good egg, Cammilla is lovel and they should have let them get married in the 1970′s.
Aw, she reminds me of my grandma!
Harry, you CAN use your real name if you want to. How is the old trout anyway?
huh? Who’s Harry? She looks like my Grandma Marline.
Oh never mind..
Apparently Harry has gone senile a bit sooner than expected. Even Charles isn’t senile yet. Well, here’s hoping William stays sane.
Well there are Randy Andy’s girls, if Harry and Wills go off the noggin…
Yay, Sarah Ferguson for Queen Mother.
If she goes back to goosing folks with an umbrella, it might be worth it!
*headdesk*
Seriuosly, I really don’t know who Harry is…
*pats gently* There there, it’s okay.
Chin up Chuckie, your Gramma lived to 101 and Mom’s only 83. You’ll get the throne someday I’m totally sure. ::cough::
Charles doesn’t have a prayer will Camilla by his side-Wills will be king!
I hope you’re right! I reckon our country will become a republic if Charles is ever King. We’re only sticking with the Royals cos all the old people love Queen Liz as it is.
My question is, why isn’t this already a known issue? I mean are we just simply positive Chuck doesn’t get to be da King?
I have some contacts in New Zealand who tell me that some of the strongest opponents of a Republic are the Maori. Why? There is an early treaty between the British and the Maori by which the latter allow the former to settle on the island, each side agrees to respect the other’s rights as a community, and each people is allowed to govern itself according to its own laws and customs. Queen Victoria was granted, I am told, the title of “Supreme High Chief of the United Maori Tribes” (or something along those lines, I may not have the wording quite right), which title Her Current Majesty also has.
The Maori antirepublicans hold that their political existence is tied to their relationship with the Crown; they believe that in a hypothetical ‘Republic of New Zealand’, they’d be just another ethnic group.
Some of them–and some white monarchists, too–want to sever the British and New Zealand crowns and have EDWARD become King of New Zealand. Edward has strong ties to NZ; he spent his ‘gap year’ there, has a vacation home there, and has said that it his favorite of the Commonwealth Realms.
Of course, that is very unlikely to happen. I’m just reporting what I am told.
No, he said he wandered off. You watch p0rn on the internet.
That’s what wireless is for – wander and jerk, wander and jerk.
I was just thinking watch football and be lazy! You people are PERVS!
I was thinking about Jack in the Box.
I’m thinking Arby’s.
I’m thinking Chicken Breast with roasted red peppers, baked potato and garlic slices, and some steamed broccoli.
And pr0n.
Now I want broccoli.
It’s a shrubbery! Not a broccoli! And I want curly fries.
Well, you could see if The Steve’s got any left. I gave him mine.
Don’t say that word!
I’d ask him, but he seems a but busy what with rummaging in your box and all
Ni!
What word? How am I supposed to know what word I can’t say if you don’t tell me what it is?
*knights’ heads explode*
Oh, great. And Charro retired as mop girl. Now what?
I’m back as mop girl! froo kindly dusted me with her magical faerie dust!
*whistles and mops* Mop mop mop! All day long! Mop mop mop while I sing that song. Gonna was that floor, gonna make it shine! Gonna take off the spray paint with turpentine!
*wax
Oooo yeah! Wax it baby!
*wiggles while waxing*
I wore my French Maid’s outfit for this.