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This is CNN. Today in Washington, there was a tiny protest against the health care bill. Just a few dozen people. Not worth mentioning really.
(Abortion rights march in 2004. For more information click here)
A wise cat once spoke about health care
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Governor Frist wasn’t even there!
Governor First?
Bad Religion was formed in 1980 by Greg Graffin (vocals), Brett Gurewitz (guitar), Jay Bentley (bass) and Jay Ziskrout (drums). The line-up, at the time, recorded and released a six-song self-titled EP in 1981 on Epitaph Records (a label founded by Gurewitz). The EP, originally a 7″ format was quickly re-issued as a 12″. Some compact cassettes were produced, but they are rare.
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Bad Religion rose to fame with .. 1994′s Stranger Than Fiction, including their well-known hits “Infected” and “21st Century (Digital Boy)” (which was originally recorded on Against the Grain), which are also often considered concert staples.
Hey awesome! I haven’t heard any Bad Religion since High school!
For the love of crumbcake! Go listen!
That was the ‘March for Women’s Lives’ in support of keeping abortion and contraception available for women in the US. Hell of a march
In 2004, organized by ACLU and Planned Parenthood as well as some foreign organizations.
Foreign organizations? Which ones?
BTW, you say “the ACLU and Planned Parenthood” as if that was a bad thing? I don’t think so! (the ACLU has supported the free speach of some groups that I hate, but I think they are right to do so)
The more recent ACLU has been more a tool by the leftist agenda, however in the past it was a great tool for Freedom of Speech. When a Jewish lawyer is defending the KKK in court, that’s truely Patriotic. Now a days it’s hard pressed to have the ACLU defend Conservatism, especially on College Campuses.
Conservatism hasn’t been under attack on the campuses where I have taught, nor where I have been a student. I knew a pink-haired punk who wore pro-Reagan political buttons in college, and I currently have several colleagues who are conservative. They may get questions at times (as do I), but to my knowledge none have had any impact of their expressed political leanings on their hiring, promotion or working conditions.
My current political science colleagues (one is anarchist/commie the other a conservative immigrant from Russia) make a point of inviting speakers of all political flavors on campus, and also of encouraging debate and involvement in the students. Maybe things are different where you live, but in this liberal state of MA, we make a point of encouraging discussion at colleges and universities. (respectfulness is required, but ALL opinions are welcome)
There have been a few Colleges (won’t mention them by name) who have pushed conservative think tanks and or student groups off of campus, while embracing Socialistic Dictators, Terrorists, etc to come speak at the school. However the ACLU was silent to the cries of said schools. Also where was the ACLU when the Duke boys were getting ripped apart (Civil Liberties attain to more than just Freedom of Speech)
If you “won’t mention them”, I submit it’s because you know you’re fudging your information. Name names, sir!
Ok, what does it say about me that my first thought was “Well, I’m not sure the ACLU would be terribly effective against the machinations of Boss Hogg, but the Duke boys always seemed to handle him pretty well.”?
Then I figured out what you were talking about.
That was my first thought as well. Damn you Dukes of Hazzard and your influence on pop culture! *shakes fist*
Don’t be embarrassed, diss, I was thinking the same as you and Jane.
“…..Next, on a Very Special Episode of The Dukes of Hazzard, the ACLU seeks an injunction to put a stop to Boss Hogg’s continued harassment of the Duke boys. Oh, and there’s a car chase.”
And Roscoe ends up in a pond again.
Hey ! Bo is a friend of mine ! ( John Schneider) Problem is, he really does drive like that.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_court_cases_involving_the_American_Civil_Liberties_Union}
Don’t have time to check all of them out, but looking for a conservative being defended. Thanks. As to the Colleges, Berkley, Weslyan, Dartmouth… it will take some time in finding the exact cases.
I’m not going to try and defend Dartmouth–they have a history of being offensive in a series of different ways. (when I was an undergrad at a nearby college, the male students were accusing all of the women at their own college of being lesbians.) The latest was a bunch of jerky guys being totally offensive at a squash match–squash is held in a rather small court, with a modest seating area overlooking it, so I gather it was like being a Christian being razzed by the Roman audience, while facing the lions.
Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh come to mind right off the top of my head.
Dude, you’ve got Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh on the top of your head? You’re in for a nasty headache.
The Duke thing was nasty on all sides. The accusations against the young men was unfortunately credible-sounding to me at the time, because of the excesses which large colleges have allowed their male athletes (esp basketball and football) to get away with… The excuse being that those young men were bringing in income to the schools. (I love our football coach–he INSISTS that his young men act as gentlemen.
The DA was an ass, and has finally received his just desserts, last I had read.
As for the ACLU, I believe they have to be invited to participate in a case?
It’s amazing what a difference gender makes, isn’t it? I was 70% convinced there had been a consensual encounter, either later regretted or not properly paid for (one of those turned out to be the truth) and 30% afraid my gender bias was getting the better of me.
Not sure if gender played a role in the Duke case. I firmly believed from the beginning that there was never enough evidence for the DA to move forward. If it had been true I’d have been horrified since I am a woman but I was waiting for real evidence to be shown. I hate to see anyone’s life, male or female, ruined because of false accusations. While I Live in NC I’m not particularly a Duke fan or a sports fan – but I really do believe in having actual evidence against someone before trying them. Guess I’m odd that way…wish the media and some of our lawyers were odd like me.
Would be nice if we had the UK news rules–can’t publish names of the accused, only the convicted.
And, if I remember correctly, no publicity at all once charges have been filed. But then what would our poor ‘news’ agencies report on?
Tiger Woods. *sigh*
Maybe more press to interesting obits? I just learned more about Ann Nixon Cooper–quite a gal! I heard on that ebil source NPR that during her life she started a boyscout troop (the local ones wouldn’t admit black boys back then), founded several charities and book groups, chaired a charity board for decades, and raised 4 kids.
{http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/centenarian.votes/}
I would agree with that. Even if someone is acquitted, very often it’s too late in a high profile case. Justice is blind (sorta), but public opinion is not.
This was my understanding as well. If, for the sake of argument, there are less cases of the ACLU defending conservative free speech perhaps it’s because conservatives are less likely to ask them for help given their views on the ACLU. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy?
Sometimes I like you, and sometimes, you sound like this. The ACLU, as you might guess from the name, is dedicated to preserving our civil liberties. If they seem to be championing The Left, to you, then maybe you should re-think your priorities. I’m sure that the next time The Left starts passing laws that infringe on our civil liberties, the ACLU will be there to fight them, and you will be happy they are available.
As I’ve said the ACLU was great in the past, but it’s starting to do the whole Union thing. There are multiple instances that the ACLU should attack, however it’s recent case load has been deemed more left than not. Affirmative Action is against Civil Liberties, as I said earlier the Duke Boys, the silence when the head of National Homeland Security said that “Returning vets are more likely to be recruited for radical right wing terrorists groups.” while the other report was pretty scarce on any lestist “terroism” (actually I don’t think that word was mentioned at all)….
I suspect that there is a real risk of both sides recruiting returning veterans. However, given the impression I have gotten from my relatives who have served, that members of the military tend to swing more right than left…that would mean the risk of right wing groups would be greater than that of left wingers.
We’ll all be waiting with bated breath for the first instance of a returning serviceman (or woman) jumping up on the catwalk at a fur fashion show to throw red paint on the models.
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*crickets*
I served in the military and I’m very pro-animal rights.
But do you throw paint on fashion models as they walk down the runway?
The ACLU is less an advocacy group than a lawyering up group. I don’t see that it’s necessarily their place to state an opinion on all possibly offensive statements being made. I don’t remember them making any statements about Palin’s “pallin’ around with terrorists” remark, either. Also, I’m pretty sure they’re usually invited into cases, so unless the Duke boys asked for their help and they turned them down, I don’t see that argument holding much water, either. Also, as Diss points out, I do think they can handle Boss Hogg on their own. (Also, too, I’m not exactly sure they’re innocent: running moonshine is against the law, after all.)
You’re referring to the Homeland Security report that was commissioned, conducted, and written during the Bush administration? The one that has proven to be correct? (Dr. Tiller’s murder, the Holocaust Museum shooter, and the police killed by Poplawski in Pittsburgh are recent examples, while the Oklahoma City bombing remains the classic example from the past.) They hardly focus on just conservatives, though:
{http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Leftwing_Extremist_Threat.pdf}
Listen, if we’re going to have profiling of people because a few individuals are extremists (anyone advocating a special security process for muslims lately?) then we should profile every group. Or, you could agree with me, and profile no one.
Mark: I don’t think that one was proven correct. You’re teling me out of the Thousands upon thousands of returning VFW that only three incidents of “Home Grown Terrorism” came from the Military that it was proven correct? That’s like saying All Blacks are subject to criminal behavior b/c more blacks are in jail. It’s ridiculous. Come on Mark you’re more intelligent than that.
I read the Left Wing agenda as well, it down plays Left Wing acts of terror. I think it mentions eco-terrorism as the only form of left wing terrorism.
I’m for Profiling if it’s done correctly, 80 year old white Granny probably isn’t a Muslim terrorist.
I actually agree with you, in general. That was kind of my point in the last paragraph.
Actually, on further consideration, two white grannies brought down airliners in Russia just a couple years ago. Nobody screened them because- you’ll think this is a hoot!- nobody thought a white grannie would ever be a suicide bomber!
It makes perfect sense. They’re old and going to die soon anyways, might as well go out with a bang and save on medical expenses.
Hey! Russian version of death panels!
Why we should have geezers in the army (link).
…
*transports the neighbors lawn to Afghanistan and watches as he single-handedly(cane-edly? walker-edly?) takes on the Taliban and defeats them*
Just a fact here: The ACLU acts on legal matters for people/groups who have requested its services. They MUST be asked. Given the attitude shown here against them by the conservatives/righties/word of your choice, exactly how many such people/groups do you think ASK them for help? So it’s not fair to say ‘they didn’t do anything in such and such case’ unless you actually know that the participants asked for help and were denied.
Also, historically, more conservative groups are more likely to have money to hire their own lawyers and so not need to ask for such assistance. But they have represented some extremely right groups — most famously the Neo-Nazis.
{aclu.org} by the way.
Mabs: Really right wing groups don’t always have money. That is a horrible stereo type. Originally the ACLU was formed to help all, however with it’s more progressive swing it would be harder to trust them with a “conservative” case. However I don’t have numbers yet of how many Conservatives groups have asked for help and not gotten it.
I didn’t say ‘always’; I said ‘more.’ Also, it is not the ACLU’s fault if someone doesn’t ask them for WHATEVER reason. Many people here badgered our former Republican senator on an environmental issue without assuming that he would say no.
Ah, I should have read farther down.
But it’s not a PK without redundancy.
Hey is this a March for Women’s Lives. (However to institute another Flame War I must point this out) If this is a pro-abortion rally, isn’t it also Pro-Killing women, since some aborted babies are female? So really how can it be a March for Women’s Lives?
But is it a March for Belgian Women’s Lives?
But if they march sideways, it is for German women’s lives!
Really frustrating to STILL hear that a pro-birth control, pro-abortion is PRO-DEATH. I would say that a great majority of people that are pro-choice aren’t pro-death, but rather, would like the option out there for just that- an option. Some of us aren’t running out getting abortions willy-nilly because we couldn’t think straight the weeks before, and moreso, some of us aren’t baby killers for taking a hormone pill daily. I, myself, take birth control as a hormone supplement for endometriosis and would NOT like to lose that ability because some nut thinks I’m trying to abort my unborn fetuses every monthly cycle.
Not that hard pressed:
{http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=thetowntalk&sParam=30796437.story}
{http://www.dailytribune.com/articles/2009/09/25/news/srv0000006478506.txt}
{http://www.projo.com/news/content/Preacher_07-31-07_T76IHBQ.34294dd.html}
With many, many more here:
{http://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-religious-practice-and-expression}
So those cases make up fo rthe fact the ACLU is handing out pamphlets to Illegal Imigrants on how to get into this country. How to fight loop holes?
In those cases did I only find a handful of said lawsuits had to do with Freedom of the Chruch to preach.
Most of the cases were of Social Services being provided by a Church, which isn’t religious at all. There was even one in there of an inmate compalining on having to watch Baptist TV so he could get Catholic TV, so that case could be argued either way. And the ACLU hasn’t been deemed attacking Religion but Christianity, some of said cases were for Muslim and Jewish freedoms.
Overall the ACLU is “progressive”. Look at it’s website, no where is there Father Rights, only Women’s Rights, wouldn’t you think it would be Equality Rights?
Of course it’s mainly “progressive” – most attacks on civil rights come from authoritarians, and most authoritarians are on the right. (That’s not to say that there aren’t also libertarians on the right, of course there are.) And, yes, there’s probably an additional liberal bias on top of that, most likely due to a “vicious circle” caused by most attacks on civil rights coming from the right. Also, I don’t get your “case could be argued either way” about Baptist vs. Catholic. Are you suggesting it’s a conservative ideal to force you to be Baptist instead of Catholic? (I’m not being snarky, at least not much, I really don’t get what you’re driving at.)
Nebton: You’re bias is showing extremely here. “most attacks on civil rights come from authoritarians, and most authoritarians are on the right.” Really? Really?
So you’re telling me that the left in it’s infinite wisdom (yes I’m being snarky) NEVER EVER infringes on anyone’s Civil Liberties? (or rarely does?) Wow that’s pretty amazing.
Relgion v Religion, so the ACLU could take either side in that case, “We’re defending religion” or “We’re protecting people from Religion”. So really it’s a BS case, that’s what I’m suggesting, which is what I wrote before “argued either way”. (so you’re not reading my posts, deliberately misinterpretting them, or not paying attention)
What part of “most” didn’t you get there? Of course people on the left also infringe on civil rights. I was hoping that went without saying, but evidently it didn’t, so let me say it again. Yes, people on the left also infringe on civil rights. I think the Soviet Union is a subtle example of that…
I read your posts, but I’m still not getting why “protecting people from religion” can’t be a conservative issue. I’m really not trying to be misinterpretive or anything with that, but if I’m to understand your last paragraph it seems to me that’s what you’re suggesting.
P.S. The subtle bit with regards to the Soviet Union was sarcasm in case that wasn’t clear.
The Christian Right (not me remember not Christian) believe that the ACLU is waging war upon them. The ACLU defending itself cited that case as one case of them “Protecting Religion”. However I say that that case could be constured as either for or against Religion.
I think that the Left has just as much “Civil Liberties” squashing as the Right does. I’m not out to say either side does more, it’s probably pretty easy. I think the best statement is Radicalism SQUASHES Civil Liberties.
I think we can agree on that. However, we might disagree on what constitutes radicalism.
Radicalism = I’m So Right that EVeryone Else is Wrong and Must Perish For It or Convert to My Ways.
Wait, I’m a radical?
I don’t know, you fit that definition? I’m more of a live and let live kinda guy.
There are times when those feelings are lurking beneath the surface, but I’m usually pretty good at suppressing them. I very rarely ever actually cause those who disagree with me to perish, especially as long as I remember my meds.
*Takes a med and washes it down with some NYE champagne.*
I’m more of a “I’m right, everyone else is wrong, but watcha gonna do? Nobody ever listens to me.”
*blinks at Rando* Finally! Someone who understands me!
I know, right? It’s a frustrating life.
It can be such a burden, being right all the time.
What does it say about you, that you instantly conflate a majority into an exclusivity?
Have any of the fathers asked for the ACLU to support their efforts for custody/visitation? Just asking…
Actually, they might consider going with “Gender Rights”….more inclusive.
At least you get it Diss. It’s not the fact that “Father’s are asking for it (haven’t researched that), it’s the Divisiveness I was questioning.
It really should be about the child’s rights, b/c it should be about what’s best for the KID. You might interested to know that feminists, allies & women’s rights activists agree with that sentiment.
Well, we pretty much have Men’s Rights out the wazoo already, seems to me like they’re calling for Women’s Rights to try to get to equality.
Well, there’s always the Aliance Defense Fund for conservative cases.
But if the ACLU was truely pi-partisan the ADF wouldn’t be needed now would it.
Good point.
Now, now – The ACLU is no more Liberal than, say, PBS or NPR are they ?
Nice one.
You are making a mistake to say they don’t support conservatism. The ACLU is about equal rights, not political leanings. I think it says a lot about YOU that you equate defending a person’s civil liberties as being exclusively leftist, and therefore bad, and anti-american.
I was just pointing out what the BBC article cited above says… It didn’t say which foreign organizations. I think it was hinting that this protest was organized in response to the global gag rule.
you misspelled speech even with correction underlines.
You forgot to capitalise the beginning of your sentence.
And how do you know that she was using a browser that has spellcheck?
I know this muushu is kind of a douche. Let’s eat it.
*prays VG forgives the lack of commas*
Ew. I vote for defenestration.
When it lands, can I eat it?
As you wish, dear. I believe I have some tortillas that you could use in lieu of the little pancakes.
Yum.
Why do the admins allows this festering dog turd to continue posting? More important, why does God allow him to continue living? His life obviously is worthless, why not just be merciful and end his suffering?
I don’t pretend to understand the motives of God, but I’m guessing “To test our patience.”
You can always complain.
They do respond, but they’re like god, sometimes the answer is no. Hee hee. Sorry. Irresistible analogy. 
Sometimes, mabsba, when God closes a door, He opens a window. And, hopefully, throws cgray out the window.
No offense, but my opinion of that particular “God” is best summarized: “God sees every feather that falls from a sparrow’s tail, but He doesn’t do a damned thing about it.” So I vote for US opening the window.
Heh heh.
I guess it’s God’s will, mabsba!
*pushes cgray out the window*
Ooops. Hey, anyone seen EWAdams?
*looks out window* Ew. Well, at least it missed any cars. *pops open the NYE’s champagne* Hey, it’s a bit early, but this definitely deserves a toast!
Cheers!
A toast to defenestration!
Yeah. The OP hit the hypocrisy ball right out of the park by using a misleading label to complain about someone else using a misleading description.
I’m guessing you’re a guy right? If so, I hope no woman ever opens her legs to you ever again. Then again I doubt they ever have.
Well, not really considering its the life of the baby….a completely different person……rather than the life of the woman.
Yeah, the caption should read: Faux News, we take footage from one event to misrepresent another.
Yes! Thank you. It is the right that has done this, not the left
Caption fail.
Haha, funniest caption I’ve read all day. Only the right misrepresents…haha!
Response…not caption.
I think you are correct, both sides have partisans that will resort to dirty tricks to further their agendas.
However, just as an excercise, can you find us an example of progressives lying about how many people support their position? In return, I offer you an example of conservatives lying about the attendance of their teabag protests:
{http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/912-tea-party-photo-false_n_286082.html}
From Huffington Post? LOL!
You are free to source your reference where you will.
Are we really?
I’m citing The Onion next time.
*nods vigorously*
They have the only horoscopes I ever read. My personal favorite so far: You will develop a new appreciation for music this week when you are garroted to death by a piano wire while reading about your future.
I believe it’s called the Million Man March for $200 Alex.
I’m sorry, but you failed to phrase your answer in the form of a question.
You forgot to form your phrase in the question of an answer.
Can I ask an answer. I think I may be confused?
It’s call Gibbs talking about the Health Care Bill saying most Americans wanted it for $400 Alex.
Global warming is man made; all Scientists agree for $600 Alex.
Oh, please don’t tell me you think that global warming is a hoax, ILPB. Please don’t tell me that you think there are more than two climatologists (Pat Michaels and Richard Lindzen) who have expressed more than a 10% doubt, and that even these two haven’t ruled it out. (In fact, when pressed, Michaels thinks the problem will be self correcting as we will run out of fossil fuels, and Lindzen just thinks that there’s more uncertainty than is generally given credit – i.e., neither thinks that man isn’t the primary cause, merely that they can’t be 100% certain.)
Someone didn’t read the released emails now did he?
Of course I did. (Well, not all of them, but the ones that got all of the negative press.) I won’t defend everything those scientists did (e.g., trying too hard to keep junk science out of journals when the normal peer-reviewed process should already handle it), but I also think there’s a lot of misunderstanding from lay people on the fact that scientists are people who sometimes hold ill-will towards other people who appear to have been bought and paid for by the fossil-fuel industry.
If their “Facts” were beyond reproach I don’t think there would have been cover ups. The fact they covered up stuff, makes all their findings that less valid. I’m sorry those E-mails are more damning than the media or liberals give credit to. If that had been a Conservative Think Tank with an agenda and those emails were found, there would have been hell to pay, and the liberals would still be scraming for heads.
I think the media already over played it. What did they cover up? Are you referring to the “trick”? We scientists have lots of “tricks”. I regularly use one myself for dealing with variables that vary from 1 to 8, but in a circular fashion. When averaging these variables, using a straight average would be wrong, since if all of the points lie between 8 and 1, you don’t want to say the average is 4.5. Instead, I use the “trick” of converting them to polar co-ordinates first, and using the complex number system. That doesn’t mean I’m trying to cover up the fact that the “true” average is 4.5, though.
I was leaning more towards the “Hey you hide that evidence that disproves our first thought yet?”
If you’re referring to them losing the original data in one case, that is incredibly unfortunate and/or suspicious, depending on one’s gullibility/cynicism. I also would like for them to be far more open in revealing all of their algorithms. That said, it’s not like they were the only group working in the field.
There are quite a few reasons that says that man made global warming is a bit of BS. First off, in 1977, most of the same scientists stated that man was causing global cooling. Now, they try to use the same data to say that it’s global warming. Actually, they’re a bit lost now, so they just say climate change. They don’t know what it’s doing, but it’s changing.
Also, I find it funny that scientists claim that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. Humans have only been collecting data for about 200 years. I think the sample is a little small. Now, those years do encompass when we became industrialized, and scientists like to point to that as the “smoking gun” which is a little misleading because the data I saw shows that only the last 20 – 30 years showed the largest increase.
However, it’s also a fact that the earth cycles between ice ages and extremely warm periods. Relatively speaking, we have just exited an ice age and are heading toward a warm period. So, naturally, the earth is going to warm.
No, backwardthinking, none of the same scientists said in 1977 that man was causing global cooling. I’m hoping this is one of the first times you’ve said that because it’s so demonstrably false. In fact, you can find in 1977 many of the same scientists already warning of global warming. The people who were warning you about global cooling in 1977 are the same ones who warn you about shark attacks, i.e., Newsweek et al., and not real scientists (i.e., those with Ph.D. and such after their names).
backwardthinking
I JUST got that. *headdesk* Wow….
These emails?
{http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/}
And we’re what, surprised…? This isn’t about him being right wing – imbecility is a non-partisan issue.
What about the letter signed by over twenty thousand scientists arguing against global warming?
I hope you’re joking. If not, you really should read up on that “letter”. A large number of the “real scientists” (i.e., those with actual degrees in the field) were contacted and claimed to have never signed that letter (assuming we’re talking about the same letter).
Is it just me? Every time I hear somebody cite to a letter/petition or similar with people backing some idea, I always think about the Kids in the Hall’s recurring “30 Helens Agree” thing.
Global warming IS Mann made.
nicely said!
Yeah b/c the LEFT or CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS has NEVER misinterpretted information EVER!! *cough cough* Rathergate **cough cough**
fvcking a$$clowns.
ok you have one instance, do we need to list the thousands of fox news “mistakes”
If you could actually show them instead of saying it than yes, yes I would like for you to show it.
But…but…but…that requires actual work and thinking and thought and work. *whines*
ILPB! Is that your very own stalker? It’s so cute! Does it bite? Can I pet it?
Awww….it’s cute! See if it’ll eat these Reese’s Pieces….
Give the captioner a fvcking break; how the hell are they supposed to know exactly what event this is? It’s not like it’s labeled on the picture, or includes any kind of detail that would give you a clue. The information under the photo identifying the event doesn’t appear until the lol is frontpaged.
Remember some people only have senses of humor when the people on the otherside of their belief system is being made fun of. These are what we call hypocrites = a$$clowns. Now for most the PK normals they would chuckle realize the sarcasm and move on, but to the Trolly McTroll Trolls here they must point out HOW wrong the right is all the time. B/C conservatives bring absolutely nothing to the table. Name ONE Conservative who did anything for this country.
Yeah, yeah, we know, you poor conservatives are so discriminated against by everyone, especially the Liberal Media™ and anyone pointing out that this LOL is actually based on something a conservative network (Fox News) does, rather than CNN (by the way, shouldn’t the captioneer have gone with MSNBC if s/he wanted to bash “the Left”? Even the execution of the weak joke is a FAIL) is just a pouty pants liberal. Sheesh.
Well at least you can admit your a pouty pants. The ironic thing here is you probably think I watch Fox News, I don’t. I don’t watch any media b/c ALL of the media lies, distorts and pretty much says whatever it wants regardless of the truth. I just love how some liberals will froth at the mouth to bash Fox News all the while turning a blind eye to the same thing happening on their networks.
Yeah b/c I was SO playing the victim here… I was saying how we’re so descriminated against, yeah that’s what I said. But if you want to get into “Liberal Media” you might want to do some research rather than throw out stupid assaults. Let’s see, MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS (6) All left leaning electronic media outlets. Fox News conservative (1). New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, New York Post, Boston Herald, Time Magazine, Newsweek, all admitted Liberal mainstream written medias. Wall Street Journal, Washington Times are the only two large mainstream written medias that are deemed Conservative. See where I’m going with this. And of all the Newspapers and Magazines listed there the 2 conservatives ones are the only ones not in financial need. Go figure.
Wow. It looks like the flaming has already started.
I think they’re the captioner a hard time because it’s actually Fox & MSNBC who usually pulls stuff like this. CNN at least TRIES to be non partisan (although they usually FAIL at it). I’ll admit that CNN has some partisan leans, but not as much as BSNBC & Faux News.
I actaully thought this LOL was pretty funny and I’m a lefty also. Lets be calm here people. Yes the captioner kind of screwed up this one, but it’s just a LOL poster for Christ’s sake. No need for flame wars over political leanings, cable “news” networks and stupid magazines.
Have a Happy New Year!!
Now who’s gonna give me a wet, R-rated make out session at midnight??
Anyone…anyone….?
I hired New York from that Reality TV Show for you. How does that sound?
Yes I did Flame On quickly, b/c I just get tired fo the “But Fox News” horse$hit. All media does it.
Yeah I feel you on that one ILBP.
The whole “but Fox News did this” bit is getting pretty old. I always get upset that leftys seem to forget that BSNBC does the same thing.
I think ALL news stations need to just drop the facade and admit that they’re biased. At least it gives us an honest view of what we’re looking at and it opens the door for ACTUAL non-partisan news.
But jeez man, you couldn’t do better than Tiffany? You could’ve at least gotten me the WINNER of the first season…
But New York is cheaper… sorry it was her or Omerosa. I tired Miley but she’s busy, I think Rando hired her. VNV had Ms. Lohan…. and oddly enough Eddie had Perez Hilton (Eddie I hope it’s for a lawn ornament).
And Kn0w, thanks for at least admitting your news agency has a bias. **hands him a brewski** Yeah I know it’s 9:00 EST but it’s 5:00 somewhere.
*takes brewski from ILBP*
Mozel Tov & Laheim!
Guess I’ll stay with New York then. I hope she doesn’t bring her mother along. Remember how that turned out for FLAVORRR FLAAAVVV?
But…but…I spent the last 2 hours working out your New Year’s Eve hookup with Kate Gosselin!
She’s gonna be pissed…she got a sitter and everything.
Well she has 8 kids, so she’s obviously easy… sort of like Octo-Mom.
Miley? Cyrus? I don’t do jailbait, homey.
And I also freely admit MSNBC is biased (BSNBC is pretty funny actually). That’s what I like about it.
I don’t. I live in a shrubbery on that lawn, I don’t want to look out my window and see That first thing in the morning!
Maybe it’s for a sacrifice to the gods of the new year?
Hey, at least you get someone! I get left out in the cold… :p
Fine. *Takes out wallet with AMEX Platnum No SPending Limit Credit Card* Who would you prefer Serifina? Ty Pennington or Al Rocker, those are the only two left. (I’m assuming with a name like Serifina you are female)
oooh, if ty is still up for grabs can i have him? i sure could put him to use around the house
I’ll take Serifina if she’s an African goddess like her name suggests.
I’m game. Saves me some cash.
Uh… Not an African Goddess (seriously, didn’t even know that one!) I’m an angel, though! Honest! (But yes, ILPB, I’m female.)
*perks up*
I get to spoil an Angel?
O.O Can I watch?!
The more, the merrier?
A Valkerie & an Angel?? Yeaaaa boooiiii!!!
See guys? Girls DO like the bad boys. These bullet wounds attracts the best of them.
That said, who’s up for an orgy?
//Let’s see, MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS (6) All left leaning electronic media outlets. Fox News conservative (1). New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, New York Post, Boston Herald, Time Magazine, Newsweek, all admitted Liberal mainstream written medias.//
Ummm, you’re just throwing out as many names as you can, it seems, because there are more than a few of those that really aren’t liberal. PBS is non-partisan, it’s required to be because it’s publicly funded. Seriously, Jim Lehrer is partisan liberal? Get real. The man is so bland that they might as well have the news read by a robot.
Then there’s the Chicago Tribune…an “admitted Liberal mainstream written media?” I lived in Chicago for a long time and read the Trib every morning, and I can tell you it is well-known for it’s conservative sympathies. To call them part of the liberal media is laughable.
Also, CNN, ABC, and TIME are more centrist then anything, it’s kind of silly to lump them in with a clearly partisan network like MSNBC.
Oh, and the Washington Times is set to fold, and good riddance. All it ever was a mouthpiece for that cult leader, the “Reverend” Sun Myung Moon of the Unification “Church.”
And I don’t think the Wall Street Journal is in great shape either, it keeps losing money just like the rest of those other papers. The difference is that it has Rupert Murdoch’s deep pockets to keep it healthy.
Anyway, to comment on the caption: “meh.”
Paranoid Android: We’ve had this debate before PBS is liberal leaning. So you’re telling me the Chicago Tribune with it’s support for Obama (2nd most liberal President evah) is a conservative paper? Really? Really?
CNN lost Lou Dobbs last bastion of conservativism there. Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews want me to go on? I can.
Time Magazine has never been deemed Centric. Centric for the far left elaning individuals sure, but not to the typical American. Obama was on the cover 15 Times at 1/15/09 (still checking how many since), not one of them critical, yet no Bias there?
I can’t find anywhere that the WSJ is in financial crisis, the Washington Times does seem tipsy right now, I recant that statement.
Anderson Cooper has liberal leanings? I haven’t watched CNN in a while but I’ve never noticed that.
And the most sarcastic posting of the day goes to Know!!!!!! **hands Trophy of Gold Plated Cow tongue to Kn0w**
The Boston Herald is right leaning. The Boston GLOBE is left leaning. (I live in MA)
PBS overall might be somewhat liberal leaning, but the McLaughlin Group, the News Hour and the Nightly Business Report are not. The two news shows bend over backwards to be balanced, and I have yet to find a lefty business report anywhere? –do you know of one, please?!?
I think Left Business is kinda of like Right “Living” Section.
So..you’re saying righties aren’t living? I knew it! You’re all a bunch of undead zombies! Ahhhhhh! *runs away*
Well, if you can call this living. It’s NYE and I’m eating a bacon grilled cheese in my jammies watching “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader” reruns and fearing for humanity’s future.
Mmmmmm, bacon grilled cheese……..
EEK you’re right I meant Boston Globe… my bad. But it’s sad that PBS HAS to bend over backwards to show non-partisonship. Shouldn’t that be natural?
It used to be natural–but the Republicans made such a stink about PBS in efforts(excuses?) to cut back the funding in the late 1970′s and early 1980′s that PBS started being massively overt in their efforts for self-preservation. I remember the political attacks/threats…nasty business.
And the results were: fundraising-drives-from-Hades! *sighs* For that result, I darn Newt Gingrich to the inner circle of Heck!!
The problem is that reality has a well-known liberal bias, so it takes extra effort to appear non-partisan if your natural inclination is to report on reality.
Nebton: Really then why do 55% of Americans claim to be conservative?
(Assuming your statistic is valid…)
You really don’t want me to answer that, do you? Karl Marx said that “religion is the opiate of the masses”, but I believe that Berkeley Breathed (creator of Opus et al.) was closer to the truth when he pinned the blame on TV.
Slightly less snarky answer: conservative vs. liberal is a moving target, as pretty much by definition approximately 50% (give or take 10%) will be one or the other, at least if you force people to choose. Also, what the public believes to be true has no impact on what actually is true. It might be taken as an indicator, but it’s not an incredibly reliable one, IMO.
Also, the “reality has a well-known liberal bias” is a joke reference.
Neb: I can agree with that. I’d say majority of people are centric. Of course the US is Right compared to Europe, whom is wro… I mean Left.
ILPB, is that why we drive on the right and they drive on the left?
Europeans aren’t left, they’re East. Duh, didn’t you take geography in school?
Guys, you can stop now. You’re having what appears to be an intelligent discussion without name-calling, crap-throwing, and so forth.
We don’t allow this kind of civility on this website. We especially don’t allow genuine interest in non-partisanship.
PBS can’t possibly be that liberal because my grandparents watch it, and they’re about as liberal as a tea party at Rush Limbaugh’s house on Richard Nixon’s birthday.
Nice image!!
Too true. And extra points for correct use of the comma, right, VG?
Absolutely. Extra toasts for Rando!
Gee, thanks! *goes into a comma*
Did you really think that Lou Dobbs and his birtherism was really a bastion of conservatism? I thought he, like Beck and Limbaugh, are more of a bastion of crazy conspiracy theories…
I’m try to be nice to conservatives by disassociating them with the truly loony.
Ok better phrase.. “somewhat appearance that their possibly may in one iota of time slot be conservative idea said here.” Better? Not really a fan of either, except some of Dobbs economic ideas.
Yes, Peanut, the Trib is conservative leaning, but that doesn’t mean they march in lockstep with every crazy thing the Republicans put forward *cough*Palin*cough.
In fact, Obama was the first democrat they’d endorsed for president…EVER. So, there’s one point for me, and none for you.
Also, Chris Matthews is on MSNBC, not CNN. And I don’t ever recall Blitzer or Cooper being smeared by conservatives like yourself as “liberal.” Maybe Cooper, because he seems to care about people, at least he cared more than the Bush white house did during Katrina.
Another point for me, still a goose egg for you.
As for Time’s cover stories of Obama, he’s the President you twit! OF COURSE he’s gonna show up on the cover! How often do you think Bush was on it? And yes, they do criticize him, you just don’t bother to read, preferring instead to rely on your prejudices.
That’s another point for me, still zero for you.
As to the WSJ, as I said, they have Murdoch’s deep pockets to rely on, but the Bancrofts sold the WSJ to Murdoch precisely because it was losing money. Nice though that you admit that you were wrong about the Moonie Times, so I’ll give you a 1/2 point for having the decency to concede when you’re wrong. You may not be very smart, or well-informed, but at least your honest!
2nd most liberal president ever? You really are a whack job.
He’s done nothing but continue on with what Bush has started.
Don’t watch Fox news my ass.
If you watch nothing, then how do you just ‘happen’ to be mimicking in fine detail exactly what fox news commentators say?
Go eat more peanut butter!
TESTIFY!
Another Rage Against the Machine Fan?!?
It has to start somewhere It has to start sometime
What better place than here, what better time than now?
This is Fox “News”. Today millions of people expressed their support for President Obama, none of whom we are interviewing or acknowledging in any way. But in the news that we’ll actually report one Republican says Obama should be in prison…
Or it could read Rae likes to enjoy a night in the barn with the sheep. But I doubt that’ll happen.
Well if you read “sheep” in it’s Christian sense. Then lots of Conservatives like to spend a night with their sheep (as long as they’re under age).
CO: I’m not a neo con, nice try though. OOPS you frail!!!
Haha, ILPB…you got called a neo-con…!! That’s really funny. I’m sure s/he thought s/he was making a clever exaggerative observation, but it backfired since you aren’t anything close.
*performs mouth to mouth on ILPB*
Are you OK now?
*slips VG some tongue* I am now
I’ve excuse that gratuitous frenching on account I’m glad you’re breathing again! *huggles ILPB*
**returns hugs** Do you work out?
Not as much as I used to–darned asthma. Hopefully yes, again, due to new meds?
Everyone knows tongue is mandatory to revive someone using mouth to mouth.
…and most importantly, he’s not a fundie Christian.
*sits in the corner alone*
What’s wrong with that?
the irony is so sweet, i could put it on my pancakes. oh, and ralfast & Conscientious Objector FTW…
You fail so hard.
Oh, dear. I smell hatred, anger, and flames on the way for this one.
I brought marshmallows. Anyone bring weenies?
Nope, but I brought graham crackers and chocolate =D
What do you mean? A LOL making fun of a liberal media outlet wouldn’t bring out the Libra Trolls and Conserva Trolls, you’re kidding.
I know better! I’ve seen you people! You’re all crazy! And very very defensive of your sides. (Well, some of you, anyway!)
The media can’t fool me!
Yes we’re all defensive. However some of us being defensive do realize the failures of our side as well, it’s those that blindly follow are the problems. I just find it silly how there’s a bunch of people I don’t recognize commenting now and bashing the LOL, however on inaccurate LOLs making fun of conservative things they are eerily silent. And I’m the Hypocrite.
“He who speaks the loudest, with the most voracity, and speaks the most frequently….usually has the least to say.”
Whom said such a wonderful quote? And funny how they speak now, but didn’t before, that’s the hypocrisy I’m pointing out that seems to be lost here.
I’m hoping Tea meant for all sides. And God knows we’ve seen it…
I’ve always liked “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
Or… they’re very very worried.
Can’t wait for 2010 elections.
*hyperventilates* I won’t go back to a conservative nation. No, it can’t happen. We just got control back, dammit! I WON’T LET IT HAPPEN!!!!
*gives Rando champagne* There, there. It’s okay, Rando. You can’t go back to what we never were.
It’s going to be a heck of an interesting election, that’s all I can say.
I think what Tea is saying is that the lurkers on PK who never talk and the smartest and most correct thinking ones. S/He just insulted all the regulars and called dum!! killll it!1!1!!!!!!!11!!!!!
I’ve only just started commenting here recently, but I’ve been reading PK and comments for a while now. (For the record, I don’t belong to any ‘group’, be it Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, etc, etc, etc – I can and will side with any of them when I agree with them… or even when I don’t, just ’cause.) I’ve seen all sides flaming in various situations, really.
I was mostly just pointing out (and trying to be funny about it) that from what I’ve seen, this is likely to draw a lot of flames, if things run true to the form I’ve observed.
Oh yeah it’ll flame all right. We don’t even have Ivan, VNV, Ranod, Eddie, JAC, or Newbs here.
I’m hear, this is a really confusing lol. I wonder how it actually made it to the front page?
Noobettes, did you change your e-mail? I thought your avatar was yellow…..
Yes, I did, I like the red one better. What do you think?
*coughcough*commie*coughcough*
lol!
What happened to the ninja cricket fire breathing name/avatar?
Hmmm, not sure… that’s a different name-avatar-changing poster…
*blinks in confusion* I thought that was you….Now I might have to dig through the archives to figure out who that was….
That was care troll.
Ohhh! Thanks Mabs. Saves me the trouble of looking for the relevant lol/posts.
I’m here, just not participating sense it’s all been yammered about ad nauseum. I will say this;
Damnit PB! It’s NOT LIBRA TROLL! It’s LIBERATROLL. Libera, from the word liberal. A Libra is a person born from September 23rd to October 22nd.
Those dang Libras…
Leave Lynn out of this… It can be fun forcing her into a decision. At least for this Scorpio.
I will spell it as I damn well please. Besides most Libras are Liberals so there :-p
That’s fine, it’s your right. But every time someone reads it, they’ll be thinking, “What a tard. It’s Libera, not Libra.” *shrug*
What? You mean people notice spelling and grammar? And I get counted off for them? Geez. So unfair.
Considering most of ILPB’s spelling, I think this is a lost cause. *snerk*
Lol, my exhusband is a libra and he’s as liberal as they come!
…
I don’t get conservatives marrying liberals or vice versa. If my wife and I didn’t mesh on such issues, we’d have murdered each other by now.
Remarkably on topic!
Oh, I was a raging liberal when we met and married. He turned me conservative! lol! Well, sort of, it was a combination of a lot of things, but a lot of it was that he drank and didn’t work. (I’m not saying those are liberal traits necessarily, so don’t flame me!)
…Next you’re going to tell us he turned you into a lesbian!
No, a newt.
…..she got better.
“he turned you into a lesbian” – Damn close!!
He’s a witch! Burn him!
Of course it’s all been yammered about before, but if we don’t yell at our conservative friends how else will they know we still love them?
I’ve been avoiding Facebook recently ever since I started getting about a hundred “friend” requests, ranging from some people I wouldn’t mind getting in touch with, others I only faintly remember, and others who I suspect might be ‘bots. Also, I’m not keen on connecting my real Facebook self with my PK self. Although someone (I think it was JAC) suggested that there was at least one other fake Facebook member, I’m not sure what value that would have, either. (It would be interesting to see how many friend requests a fake person got, though.)
You absolutely CAN make up a fake account. You can even make it up with a fake email account, to totally protect your identity. Just let us know when you try to join that you are Nebtron from PK. Bad Fairie did that, if I recall…
Yeah, you can actually make your name that’s displayed whatever you want when you set up your account (or change it thereafter) and you can also set your privacy settings so you can’t be searched for.
Yeah, I have a fake name for FB so I don’t get friend requests from people I hardly know/like. It works really well, I rarely get unwanted friend requests.
I used to be in PK Irregulars and bowed out for the same reasons, Nebton. It ended up feeling kinda awkward to me. Suddenly it was like you guys are all real people or something.
(Nebton, he really just doesn’t like any of us!)
I think he was just jealous when I posted that picture of my ass in jeans…
That was a damned sexy picture.
The Tasty Wenches of PKI2.0 loved it.
GEMINIS WILL ONE DAY RULE THE WORLD AND YOU WILL CRINGE UNDER OUR BOOTS! ALL FOUR OF THEM!!!!
TAURUSES DON’T THINK SO!!
The whips of Scorpio also disagree…
Us cancers will tell our mommies on you and then you’ll be in soooo much trouble!
Aw, let them have it. Too much effort. Then, Tauruses can sit around eating and relaxing.
That’s a load of bull…
Hmm….yeah, that sounds good!
On second thought, I’m not really up to the effort of world domination today (due to our duel nature, Geminis also change their minds a lot).
Wouldn’t that mean you like to fight a lot?
*fist bumps diss* You don’t WANT to bash heads with a taurus! You mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Are they CFM boots?
What ever kind you like, baby.
Who the hell is Ranod?
It’s weird how he’s never here when you are, Rando….like Clark Kent and Superman….
SHHHH!
This thread is rapidly turning into one of those “wait….am I a liberal or a conservative” moments for me. The kind where I sit and think about how childish and immature all parties are being, and praying that I fall into neither category.
Libertarians FTW?
Liberal & Conservative Libertarinas FTW!!
F*ck both “parties”.
Ain’t no party like a ….non-party party! Wooo! (o)(o)
Alright who let Diss get into the punch? Diss get down off the table, put the shirt back on, there’s children present.
*pouts at ILPB*
But it’s New Year’s Eeeeeeeve….
*sigh*
At least wait until the children are in bed. Oh and next time wear the black ones.
*gropes diss before ILPB can get her down* Nice ones, diss!
*gropes back*
Same to you, booty wench!
*gropes Diss, Booty Wench, Viking Gal, Charro, & Captain Wow while in a panda suit*
Sexual Harrasement Panda: When keeping it South Park goes wrong ;D
*gropes the panda*
Hey, I’ve always wanted to do that!
*gropes panda, also* That is fun, VG!
I guess keeping it South Park went right!
*takes VikingGal & justacanuck into back room and preforms many unspeakable acts*
Who’s your panda?
*is confused*
But….but, I thought stuff like that made you a sad panda?
It’s New Year’s and I’m drunk. Sexual Harrasement Panda does a 180 under the influence of alcohol.
Shows on the panda where Kn0wledge1ne touched you.
*sexually harasses the Panda*
Kind of reminds me of a “Nondenominational Christian Church”. Seriously? Why not just call it a Christian Church? The fact that you didn’t add the Catholic, Baptists, Methodists, whatever on there means you’re not a part of that group. *Headdesk* Need… more… cold… meds…
Aren’t the Unitarians?
I don’t know enough abotu Unitarians to say one way or the other. I just know that there are three churches within a 50 mile radius of me that are specifically “Nondenominational”. As in it states that on the church’s sign. I’ve never attended any of them, so I don’t know what they preach, just that they claim to be Christian.
I have good friends/neighbors who are Unitarian Universalists. She was Christian (passed away, unfortunately), he is agnostic. They were friends with another UU couple who were Christian (her) and Jewish (him). Other members of the church were Christian, Wiccan, atheist… Having really nice people who all pitched in to help him with his loss when she suddenly died. And also some years back when their basement flooded, destroying a lot of stuff stored down there–which all had to be removed in time to prevent a mold colony (I pitched in to safe family photos from the boxes). The funeral for the wife was not what I was used to, but it was a beautiful service none the less.
That sounds like my kind of church. I’m very tired of being told I’m going to Hell for using gifts that God gave me. I love the Catholic Church, but some of the parishioners… I could do without.
Huh? The Unitarian church is not a Christian church.
You can, however, be Christian and attend a Unitarian church. No hole opens up in the space/time continuum or anything!
But… can you be a member of Westboro Baptist Church and attend?
Is it OK if I just turn my t-shirt inside out then?
Sure! Try the coffee, it’s fair trade.
Come to think of it, I actually have been inside a UU church once: they were showing a Wal-Mart movie. (I can’t remember the name, but I seem to faintly recall that it was anti-Wal-Mart…)
I’ve always wondered what their sermons were like. Never enough to actually attend one, but enough to make me curious. It’s just so hard for me to wrap my brain around a church that has not just members who believe in one god or multiple gods, but also members who believe in no god at all. (No criticism implied, just puzzlement.)
Raised UU…I think sermon-ing varies a lot between congregations; at the one I grew up at it could best be described as “boring” and “so desperately trying to offend noone that you don’t actually SAY anything” but that’s just our minister…. Rev. Yawney.
(not his real name…heh).
Honestly, for the past 10 years or so I mostly go to take my kids, and for a while I was in charge of coffee. I tend to actually make it into the service about twice a year. But the people are great!
The only time I ever attended a UU church was for the funeral of a professor’s son (only 20
), so that was probably not a typical sermon. But it was a very nice service and seemed to please the family, which is what counts in my book.
But again, people’s assumptions drive me nuts. As I was leaving the service, some women were muttering about who has a funeral service that doesn’t mention Christ. I must admit I turned around and snapped, “Maybe someone who’s not a Christian?”
For the record, I grew up Methodist and I can attest that UU churches don’t have the monopoly on boring sermons…
My girl lost her father a couple years back, and they had a wake at the retirement village he lived at. No preachers, just folks standing up and saying what he meant to them, and telling stories about him. It was wonderful, moving and beautiful. There’s no law that says you HAVE to have a “funeral” for someone. I never got the whole ‘laying out the dead body for everyone to gawk at’ and ‘hellfire preacher telling everyone they will be dead too, so get some jebus or you’ll burn in hell’ things anyway. I’ve instructed everyone to do that for me. Just friends, some food and drink, and remember me fondly.
Oh, yes. I didn’t mean to mislead. Anyone and everyone is welcome at a Unitarian church. It just seemed as if people were saying they’re Christian.
Mina
Non-Denominational means just that. There are no specifics on denomination, the “right” way to worship Christ, or interpretation of the bible. It basically means seperating into ceirtain groups is unnecessary and ultimately not important to the message of Christ.
So in a way, nondenomiational is a misnomer. They basically ARE calling themselves simpy a Christian Chruch.
My college has a nondenominational chapel–and all religious groups worship there. So yes, there can be some confusion about definition for that word.
Yes, used by itself, nondenominational means no affiliation with any particular religion. Nondenominational Christian means Christian, but no particular ‘type’ of Christian. I think people get confused because people say the former when they mean the latter.
For example, Scouting is nondenominational, but if someone is going to lead grace at a Scouting event mealtime, they often have to be told that a specifically Christian grace is not acceptable because it excludes the non-Christian members, which violates the Scouting code. Many Christians tend to assume that everyone is Christian, probably because they are the majority most places in the US.
I meant Christian Nondenominational like Mabs said. My bad for not specifying.
Actually, many non-denominational churches very much have specifics on the right way to worship Christ or to interpret the Bible. They just don’t belong to a denomination.
What I meant was all the unnecessary rules such as ONLY praying on your knees and women need to have vails when doing it, or ONLY fasting on this ceritain day, or the music can ONLY be at this pace, and services can ONLY be on this ceirtain day, and if you eat this on that day on a certian hour, you’re disrespecting God, and blah blah blah.
Most of these are cultural/traditional and truly mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
God…..when a comedy forum turns into a political debate…..we are so f*cked.
First timer? It is ALWAYS debate time here–although the regulars do try to be non-nasty about it.
*offers cookies*
Gotta be a first timer.
Did you see the Bears game on Monday? I watched that as a Packer fan.
I’m not a football watcher, unless live and with my own students playing. Hope that doesn’t make me un-American!
(the ‘viking’ is due to heritage, not sports. I played hoops!)
Communist
Basketball is communist? I has a sad.
The Belgians invented basketball. It was also Karl Marx’s favorite game.
This isn’t even a nasty one. I think Gringo’s cherry has been popped.
I bet it was Reality. That slut…
Man, reality really will do anyone.
Not if you have to blow it up.
“The march organisers included the American Civil Liberties Union and the Planned Parenthood Federation” – not very grass roots…
“Foreign activists said they were attending not only to show solidarity with their US counterparts but to highlight the impact of American policies on women abroad, especially in developing countries. ” – I wonder how many?
GWB did have a significant impact on the availability of reproductive services in other countries–he cut off funding to any organization serving overseas who even mentioned (let alone provided) abortion services–which halved the organizations given funding who did reproductive services.
For the record, the international planned parenthood foundation provides contraception education and materials, HIV/AIDS treatment and education, maternity, pediatric & gynecological care, and yes abortion services in many countries overseas.
I personally don’t feel comfortable with my tax dollars going to fund abortions, but that wasn’t my point. My point is, how grass roots is this protest? How representative is it of the sentiment of all Americans? That’s the same question we were getting for the tea party protests and I think it’s a fair question here.
Very good question. However I think the true bottom line is that people LOVE to make fun of people protesting from the otherside b/c people feel it somehow validates theri arguement more. Both sides use ridicule (me included at times) to berate the otehr side, rather than hear what is being said and react accordingly.
Points to you both. I think this bodes well for the New Year! Aebleskiver for all!
*hands out round powdered mini-donuts–much better than Dunkin’s by the way!*
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, doooooooooonuts…. *homer drool*
What no Krispy Kreme? **hands out Krispy Kreme donuts to all** Next you’ll say you never had Five Guys Burgers..
Haven’t had either, I must confess. But I’m always willing to try a new food! *sniffs with appreciation*
Fresh, warm Krispy Kremes are a delight to the senses.
Okay, I rule that this Lol has a passing reference to Health Care Reform, and so I give you: “Adorable Puppy Explains Health Care Bill”!
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY6Sd68CmIU}
That was pretty awesome. Thanks Mark!
And Fox EGGING ON the people who want to shoot Obama for being a progressive black man, is supposed to be better?
**YAWN** yeah b/c that’s what Fox News does. In the great words of Kayne “George Bush and Fox News doesn’t like black people.”
I think everyone missed the point here. Niether side has any proof that this person made the caption knowning what the context. It’s a play on the idea that the Tea Party attendance was down played. Anyone one that takes it beyond that context is making PURE speculation.
WOW I need a personal spell check…..
I won’t help, my spelling is horrid. I admit it. I also would have gone with the word “conjecture” rather than speculation, sounds smarter.
Firefox comes with spellcheck, which has taught me a few things, I must confess!
I loves me some Firefox! Adblocker Plus is the gravy on the roast.
Without firefox, my spelling makes ILPB’s spelling look flawless.
Yes but not grammar check.
I got the LOL. But then again I had seen how many people were really at some of the tea parties and how many they said were there. To me it really was a slam on the media and their lack of being unbiased. I would hope that both sides could laugh at that.
LMAO @ the use of a photo of a reproductive rights demonstration to illustrate a right wing point of view!
It is a little ironic, don’t you think?
IT’S LIKE RAY-EE-AIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY!!!
I hate that song. It’s isn’t ironic. It’s just bad wedding planning.
As Seth once said on these very boards (and I’m paraphrasing here):
Alanis Morisette understands irony perfectly well. She wrote a song called “Ironic” that didn’t have any irony in it.
Wait I said that once too, and then called it ironic that we were sitting here saying a song that isn’t ironic is called ironic, and then I called her a “crafty canuck.”
Well, to be fair, the word “irony” gets tossed around here so often (and so often incorrectly) that we’ve discussed Ms. Morisette’s views on the matter several times and quite at length.
I hate that song too. It’s been stuck in my head lately, and I wanted to share the pain.
I will record an MP3 of me singing “It’s a small world”, remotely hack your computer and set it so that it plays that non-stop. I will put it into your BIOS so a disc format won’t get rid of it.
Wow, that got really nasty…I just wanted a little revenge torment and ended up with something that should be banned by the Geneva convention.
I suppose it’s only fair that we get one more flame war in for the year. Let’s just hope I don’t try to light my cigarette in the fire and nearly fall in… like last NYE.
See! We told you smoking was bad for you! *adds spontaneous human combustion to list of side effects*
Actually, I’ve got to schedule an appt with my DR for the end of Jan to discuss quitting. Hopefully with the help of medication or a coma. You know, wake me up in 72 hours when the nicotine is out of my system.
You go, girl! My father had his first coronary at 43, an almost life-ending one, and ended up dying at 67. So it’s well worth it. Besides, you can use all that cigarette money to buy more rum!!
I have been told that support groups, so you can have a successful ex-smoker to encourage you, are really helpful. Just remember that a lot of people take more than one try to quit. One friend kept quitting every year and starting again, but each time she smoked less, so eventually she did quit.
But really, just concentrate on the rum money you’ll have.
If you want to have a coma, I have a simple and cheap method. Give me your address and I’ll come round your house with a piece of 2 by 4. That’ll give you a coma soon enough (or it will if I use enough force
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It’s New Years Eve. Everyone’s soaked in alcohol, do we really want to start a FLAME war?
But it would be a pretty blue flame!
*pouts*
Is it always blue? I mean, wouldn’t the added ingredients (to the basic alcohol that is burning) affect the color? OMG, if I tell my son, he’ll be setting the liquor cabinet on fire.
If it is mixed drinks, who knows what the colors would be? Especially if Charro is adding to the mix!!!
Happy New Year to my fellow geek-ette!
Thanks and the same to you. The real problem is that I now want to set the liquor cabinet on fire. *sigh* I wonder what color the rubbing alcohol burns?
I’ve been wanting to try this ever since I saw it.
My son’s eyes lit up a bit during that scene. Fortunately we don’t have enough shot glasses nor liquor to try it. Maybe “House” should be like “Mythibusters” with the “Don’t try this at home” warnings?
Like Kutner using the paddles in an oxygen chamber and setting the patient on fire?
If I remember, there was also a scene in the episode the clip I linked to comes from where House was practicing the trick in the morgue and sets a corpse on fire. I love that show.
Ooh, you can get shot glasses cheap at Garden Ridge, by the way. I bought a bunch when I was making tabletop decorations for my daughter’s wedding (used ‘em like tiny vases).
It is funny to read these comments. If you oppose the President’s health care bill, you are a neo-con. If you support it you are a socialist. Can any of the pundits here tell me what the bill says……..exactly. No one can, because no one knows. Let’s face the Dems and the Repubs are two sides of the same corruption coin.
Can’t tell you what it says because it’s not an it, it’s a they–there are 2 (at LEAST) versions of it and they both say something different. Neither has death panels, one has a public option, one doesn’t. So on and so forth
But it actually isn’t worth mentioning…
Agreed
HA! Teabagger propaganda FAIL
this captioner pulled a sean hannity.
…and yet again, the teabaggers made themselves look bad. Well done on getting a real picture.
It’s a shop. I can tell by the pixels and having seen a few shops in my day.
Actually, it was a model that a local radio station made for a demonstration on good uses for broccoli. The trees are broccoli. Though you may be right, I think the building on the left was photoshopped in.
Well if they don’t want any health care, don’t give em any. let em die horrible disease-ridden deaths.
watch your protesting ass; remember Kent State.
open fire on the teabaggers?
no no see they are not unwashed hippies…
Soooo its a rightwing nut lover who posted an anti-obama pic using a pro-abortion rally picture?
wow thats good irony.
IT’S A FREE RIDE WHEN YOU’RE ALREADY THERE! IT’S THE GOOD ADVICE THAT YOU JUST DIDN’T TA–*flatlines*
*shocks Rando with paddles*
Ooops. You’re on fire. Sorry.
I deserved that.
This is the most ironic thing I have ever seen in my life. It’s like when you’re in an argument and the person you’re arguing with outright says what you’re trying to say and continues to argue with you. But more ironic.
I know, right? And this wouldn’t be the only time a neoconservative shill has knowingly misrepresented a video or photo–OR the size of a crowd–while accusing the “liberal media” of ignoring “the will of the people.”
Right, FOXNews?
Right, teabaggers?
When FOXNews undercounted protesters opposed to the occupation of Iraq, the knuckledraggers were all, HAW HAW DAT HAU GAIM IZ PLAYD!!1
But now that they can’t find enough pedophiles and to fill out one of their rallies, it’s all BAWWWWW TEH MEDEEA IS LYIN TO U DEY R AGINST US BAAAAAWWWWAAAAAAHAAAAAAA WEH WEH WEH
meh, same thing happened in CA. Have a tax rally with thousands of people and no one reports on it. Have a conference supporting the bill and get full coverage. meh, government controlled media ftw
Er..yeah, the government controls the media. Here, have this tin foil hat so they can’t read your thoughts.
OMG…..Its a friggin picture that was meant as a joke! Liberals laugh it up when Bush or palin are made to look stupid, but get all huffy when CNN is ribbed. The opposite is true in reverse. Grow a funny bone. i would say you are all worse than a bunch of kindergarteners, but they have more sense! You sound more like a bunch of arab protesters after a Dutch cartoonist! Like I said GROW A FUNNY BONE!!!!!
What the hell are you babbling about?
See, our complaint it that it isn’t funny. We have the same complaint about the next lol over that is obviously pro-dem/anti-rep. It’s not funny. If it were actually funny we wouldn’t mind half as much.
I agree. Grow a funny bone.
What could be funnier than using photos of crowds gathered in an anti-republican rally in a weak attempt at pro republican humour?!
Good job you and I can laugh at it eh?
You fail at life.
Ultrafail!
“(Abortion rights march in 2004. For more information click here)”
^ This means you have an extra dumb ass ^
This is shopped. Or it was the million man march. MSNBC showed it was only a few hundred.
It’s an abortion rights march. It says so right under the picture. *sigh*