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Hard times for son of Travelocity’s Roaming Gnome.

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  1. Danbala says:

    If you make a caption under the name of flanders, I think some form of diddley is mandatory.

    Okelidokeli?

  2. thebabbster says:

    Judging from the money on the plate, he’s a long way from his goal.

  3. BenTheMan says:

    Is that Jack Bauer?

  4. roid says:

    Governor Spitzer is not a girl.

  5. PortlandMark says:

    In the news today: Pat Robertson blames Haiti’s troubles on the residents having made a “pact with the devil” (and my conservative boss also wondered out loud yesterday whether the earthquake was God’s punishment for the existence of voodoo.).

    Also, Rush Limbaugh accuses Obama of politicizing the earthquake, and using it to prove his credentials with with “dark and light skinned black voters”.

    • paws4thot says:

      @$$hat (Him, not you): Haitian Vodou (correct spelling) is an off-shoot of Roman Catholicism.

      • PortlandMark says:

        Lol! That’s what I told him, too! At that point, he told me we should probably not be discussing this where guests could hear. Of course there was no problem with asserting that God strikes down entire nations because of the “sins” of a few, but pointing out the relationship between Christianity and Vodou in guests’ hearing was “bad”. (The spelling error is mine, of course.)

      • Danbala says:

        Correct spelling? I’ve seen so many spelling of so many vodou/voudou/voodoo/vaudau concepts I’m beginning to think anything goes. ;p (Including “Danbala” for “Damballah” etc., of course.)

    • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

      If you’re going to assume Pat Robertson is credible, I’m going to do the same thing with Jeremiah Wright. Deal, cracker?

      • PortlandMark says:

        Oh, I must have missed Rev Wright’s nationally syndicated broadcast network and millions of followers.

        Plus, Roberson is regularly courted by conservative politicians for his votes.

        Back in your court.

        • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

          Nationally syndicated? Hardly. A low-rent time slot on a bottom-tier cable station (ABC Family, or whatever they’re calling it now) doesn’t qualify.
          Millions of viewers? That station’s probably never seen a million viewers in its life.
          Courted? You’ll have to refresh my memory — I recall him giving an unsolicited endorsement to Giuliani, to great amusement.

          Still, a good first effort.

          • dissimilitude says:

            It always cracks me up when I hear “the following broadcast does NOT represent the opinions of ABC Family…” :-P Then I change the channel, so that’s about all I know about 700 Club. I’m just amused at ABC Family’s attempt to distance itself.

            • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

              Yeah, it’s like network executive-speak for *headdesk*.

              • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                “Yeah see… they pay us to broadcast them… no! Really! Seriously! They do! Stop looking at us like that!”
                - ABC Family execs

                • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

                  Actually, it’s even worse than that — when Robertson sold the network years ago (to Fox, maybe?), he made one of the terms of the contract that the station would keep airing the 700 Club as long as it’s on. So they might not even be getting paid for it. :)

      • HelOnWheels the Gene Pool Lifeguard says:

        WTF is your problem? Why do you find it impossible to be civil to ANYBODY on here?

        • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

          Not anybody, just idiots, liars, and trolls. PM is certainly an idiot, almost certainly a liar, and occasionally a troll.

          • dissimilitude says:

            Whatever your opinion of PM, Robertson did say the earthquake was because the Haitians had made a deal with the devil….and I don’t think PM was stating this as “Pat Robertson said it so it must be TRUE!”; so, what’s Robertson’s credibility got to do with anything?

            Or were you just being cranky?

            • I Like Peanut Butter says:

              I think Dhoti’s panties are in a bunch b/c really PMs posting has nothing to do with the LOL and was just really a Trolling to bash conservatives. I found it kinda out of place, but hopefully people are smart enought to realize that Pat and Rush don’t equate to our conservative voices. Sort of like how Bill Maher doesn’t always speak for liberals.

              • Nebton says:

                Bill Maher swings both ways. Jon Stewart, however, does always speak for liberals.

                • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                  Bill Maher is 100% pure liberal, no ifs, ands or buts. So you’re saying everything Jon Stewart says 100% of liberals agree with?

                  • Nebton says:

                    Bill Maher has pretty strong feelings about the free market, IIRC. Feelings in favor of it, that is. Nothing wrong with that, but his arguments do tend to upset unionists and environmentalists because of this. Of course, he’s also a caustic atheist, which tends to upset some conservatives. If there’s any party that he’s most closely aligned with it, it’s the Libertarian party.

                    As for Jon Stewart, yes. He is God, Α and Ω, the Wing Beneath My Wings, the Fart That Shall Never Be Silenced, and such.

                    • justacanuck the booty wench says:

                      Back of Nebbie, I’M having his lovechild.

                      • Default User says:

                        He’s not that old. He’s only in his forties….

                        Also, does this mean Colbert speaks for conservatives?

                        (according to one of my republican co-workers the answer to that question is yes)

                      • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                        Wow your co-worker is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Colbert is actually mocking Conservative Pundits. Not conservative at all.

                      • Default User says:

                        Yes….yes…I know…*hangs head in shame* She’s a very nice girl, but politically, she doesn’t have much of a brain….

                      • Wino says:

                        Yes, yes. Anyone who cannot figure out that Colbert is mocking conservative pundits 1) has never seen a conservative pundit before or 2) does not have enough intelligence to even begin to form a rational opinion on voting.

                      • Colbert is so over the top, that I’d actually be a little afraid of anyone who agrees with his “character’s” views.

                      • mabsba says:

                        I have met someone, and, yes, he is. Be frightened…be very frightened.

                • dissimilitude says:

                  Lol…I just have to say that I read this:

                  Bill Maher swings both ways.

                  …and thought “Huh — I did NOT know that about him.”

                  Then I realized you were speaking politically. :oops:

                  • viking gal says:

                    Well, your thought wasn’t too far off from mine, Diss!
                    I wouldn’t put it past Bill Maher to drop trou with anyone. After all, he was an item with the Coulter for a while!

                    • Default User says:

                      Ewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewew.

                      That’s all I have to say on that topic.

                      • dissimilitude says:

                        Agreed. Damn, Bill, how wasted would you have to be to do her? :shock: That’s more than beer goggles.

                        • Default User says:

                          I would say everclear goggles. Maybe liver failure from alcohol poisoning goggles?

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          If you ignore the adam’s apple and horse face, she does have nice long legs……. and somewhat perky boobies…. yeah can’t get past the horse face and adam’s apple. However we do have Michelle Malkin, she’s a cutie.

                        • Nebton says:

                          That, and conservative chicks are known to be wild in bed, what with all of their repressed desires. (What? What’d I say?)

                        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                          But it’s the liberal chicks that let you “experiment”. :-)

                        • dissimilitude says:

                          Ok, ILPB so….I’m guessing that’s one “I’d do Coulter — if she was wearing a gimp mask and a ball gag,” then?

                          I’d like to speak up here for the fiscally and constitutionally conservative and sexually open women. We’re pretty hot. ;-)

                        • Default User says:

                          Should probably throw a nice thick collar on her so you can’t see the adams apple too.

                        • PortlandMark says:

                          At the risk of broad brushing a situation that actually has millions if shades of grey, I’m gonna have to disagree with the assertion that liberal girls let you experiment more. In truth, they’re more likely to explain that your twisted desires are examples of the kind of patriarchal thinking that has led to the brutal subjugation of women through the ages, and suggest that cuddling might be nice until your libido marches in step with your progressive beliefs.

                        • Default User says:

                          But…but..I like your twisted desires! I want you to experiment! We can cuddle afterward if you want! Come back! I wanna play!

                        • mabsba says:

                          Is THAT how you got the pox? ;)

                        • Default User says:

                          It wasn’t how that was the question. We already knew how. It was WHO that we need to find out! Who gave me the pox?

                        • mabsba says:

                          I still say, HOW did Froo know you had it? Very suspicious if you ask me. ;)

                        • Default User says:

                          ….are you saying HOW had something to do with it?

                        • mabsba says:

                          I realized as soon as I posted that you would say that. :)
                          Nope, just saying that it’s quite suspicious that Froo knew you had the pox, don’t you think? Maybe it’s because she gave it to you, eh? Howelse would she know? :evil:

                        • froofrou the fierce says:

                          Pronouncing a pox on someone is quite different than giving someone the pox, Mabs. See? *holds out certificate* I’m clean!

                        • Default User says:

                          So…HOW gave the pox to me AND Froo? Well, where did HOW get it from?

                          Intentionally misinterpreting what you’re trying to tell me is so much fun!

                        • mabsba says:

                          Well, I don’t remember enough of the original conversation to intentionally misinterpret it, but I thought you said DU was something ‘with pox.’ *looks at certificate* I dunno. This looks computer generated; probably a forgery. Where exactly was this test done?

                        • froofrou the fierce says:

                          No no, look at the seal. It’s raised, see? It says “Certificate of Live…” Oh, wait, that’s the wrong one.

                          *yoink*

                          *hands Mabs another paper*

                          Here’s my pox-free certificate!

                        • Let’s face it. The liberal chicks are more likely to be the bisexual ones, and that’s where the fun is!

                        • mabsba says:

                          Really? None of my liberal friends are bisexual.

                        • froofrou the fierce says:

                          As a vaguely bisexual conservative, I find your view offensive, Rando.

                        • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                          As an offensive liberal froo, I find your bisexuality vague!

            • n10bettes says:

              Well, I think the real point here is, this lol had absolutely nothing to do with Pat Robertson, Haiti, Rush or any of the things PM mentioned in his trolling comment. So, he deserves what he gets IMO.

            • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

              My interpretation was that he was asserting that Robertson’s view is mainstream, or at least mainline, so I think his credibility is very important. (Which is why I think Wright is a great counter-example — he’s clearly another nutter, but people get upset when you give him credibility and say that Obama must agree with him.)

          • justacanuck the booty wench says:

            So you are unable to be civil to yourself as well? That’s just sad.

          • PortlandMark says:

            Before you continue to throw around slanderous remarks, I’d like to put you on notice that in the future, I will be reporting them to the admins of this site. I know my arguments are so much better than yours that your only possible response is personal abuse, but enough is enough.

            • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

              Apparently you ignored my response in your rush to seize the moral high ground. Still, if that’s how you want to play it, be my guest.

              • PortlandMark says:

                I actually haven’t gotten around to watching Danny Glover’s comments, so I can’t address them either way. Regardless of how stupid his comments may or may not have been, he:

                1) Isn’t the head of an internationally syndicated network claiming millions of viewers.

                2) Hasn’t claimed knowledge of a pact with the devil that doomed half an island full people.

                3) Isn’t someone courted by politicians for his ability to deliver millions of votes nationwide.

                My warning stands, btw. Argue with me if you will, I don’t care. Baseless personal attacks are something I will not tolerate.

                • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

                  Rest assured, PM, I’m treating your warning with the seriousness it deserves. (But if it finally gets you to shut your trap and stop making baseless personal attacks against me, then I’ll be impressed.)

                  You appear to have missed my earlier reply as well, so I’ll summarize as it relates to your claims:
                  1) Wrong — see above
                  2) Pact with the devil, global warming; they’re both religious arguments, really, so no sense fact checking them
                  3) Wrong — see above

                  But obviously, because you don’t like me, this is a personal attack and not a serious refutation, right? So email away!

            • n10bettes says:

              You’re the one that should be reported to the admins. That was a deliberate trolling comment with the intention of provoking just the kind of responses you got. And now you want to report other posters? You should be apologizing.

              • Actually, he did apologize. PM & Dhoti has a long running distaste for one another. It’s not limited to this LOL in the slightest.

                • n10bettes says:

                  Oh yea, I guess he did… That’s good. And I don’t know about their history. Still I don’t think PM should be surprised by the responses he got from anyone. It’s different with someone like cgray or the other one who just make those unprovoked weird and offensive comments, they should be reported.

                • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

                  Distaste notwithstanding, his “apology” reiterated his original point that Christians/Republicans/etc. believe what Robertson said… making it not an apology at all, really.

    • I Like Peanut Butter says:

      Sort of like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, but it’s ok they’re in your court.

      If you’re going to knock one, you need to knock them all. Not defending Rush (he is a fat pecker head who needs to shut his trap), it’s the whole Reid hypocrisy that’s pi$$ing me off right now.

      • I Like Peanut Butter says:

        Well neither was Mark’s post germane to LOL, but people reacted. I was also responding to Steve’s comment about Rush knowing about handling demogrpahics by skin color, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are notorious for doing such actions, so YES this is germane to the discussion.

        • Nebton says:

          Granted that your comment is more germane to Steve’s comment than Mark’s comment was to the LOL, but I guess what I’m really asking is do you fault Steve or Mark for not including a mention of them in the first place? I’m guessing not, but your comment that “it’s OK they’re in your court” seems to suggest that somehow Steve or Mark were glossing over their missteps. Maybe it’s because they’ve done so in the past?

          • dissimilitude says:

            Meh. I don’t like Harry Reid and only grudgingly take his side on this, but what he said boils down to “I think the electorate is still a little racist so this stuff’s going to help him,” rather that “Hey, I like him because he’s light-skinned!”

            And this is from somebody who’d love to point and laugh at Reid.

            • I Like Peanut Butter says:

              And Trent Lott said something just as “inncoent” and was pushed out. Why? B/c he’s a conservative. Such comments are looked over if you’re batting for the right team.

              • Default User says:

                I didn’t see what was so bad about Reids comment. It seemed to me that alot of people were blowing up about it when it wasn’t that big a thing. I’m still not even sure when ‘negro’ went from being an acceptable but seriously out-dated term to an offensive term. Jackson and Sharpton however, are just as bad as Rush and they can all STFU.

                • Nebton says:

                  I think the problem with Reid’s comment is what it assumes about the voting public, as well as what it assumes about the typical “Negro” (i.e., with respect to their “dialect”).

                  He was right to apologize for it. He need not step down in my opinion, however.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    Psssh. The “voting public” includes plenty of people who are juuuuust racist enough to only vote for a “non-threatening” black guy. We can all be polite and pretend that’s not true, of course.

                    To me it’s the same as if he’d said, “You know, the first woman to get elected President is going to have to combine phenomenal levels of intelligence and strength with stunning good looks and overall femininity, because there’s a lot of people that just aren’t going to vote for a woman they perceive as unattractive or harsh.” It’s not flattering to the voting public, but….it’s probably true.

                  • Default User says:

                    What? Like the regular assertion that Hilary’s voice reminded people of their wives shrill shrieking voice. I wan’t much a fan of Hilary, but if you’re main reason for disliking her is because she reminds you of your spouse you might want to rethink your relationship.

                  • Nebton says:

                    I won’t defend the voting public, but I’m not an elected official. It’s usually considered bad form to insult the people whose vote you’re trying to win.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    @ Du: *dingdingding* We have a winner…of course on the bright side, it doesn’t seem likely that we’ll elect a pretty face without much behind it, either — but I suspect it’s true that whoever breaks that barrier will have to think like Hilary, speak like Barbara Jordan, and look like Monica Bellucci.

                  • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                    I think what he said was demeaning, in that there is a “Negro dylect”, he might as well said Ubonics. And I don’t think it’s b/c the “voting public” wouldn’t vote someone with “negro dyalect = Uboncis” b/c of color, but b/c they want an articulate speaker. It’s a safety net. People lost confidence in Bush when his speaking just sucked, howver Clinton’s “what’s the definition of is” helped the public’s confidence in him. It’s not racial in my eyes. I wouldn’t vote Falvor Flav into office even if he stood on my platform, b/c his speech and mannerisms don’t give me confidence, same thing with Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy whom both share similar ideals to me.

                  • Default User says:

                    Well, if we’re going on speaking ability alone, Foxworthy isn’t that bad. Actually, he might be the only one of those three I would vote for ever, not because I agree with his politics, but Larry or Flava in politics is just a scary thought.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    …as I mentioned elsewhere, ILPB, I doubt we’d elect Boomhauer on King of the Hill to office, either.

                    Regarding “Ebonics”, who the hell do you think came up with the term? It wasn’t initially a slur, you know, although it’s certainly been used that way by some people. And, yes, I think that’s pretty much what he meant; and, no, I don’t think we’d elect a President who talked like that, regardless of anything else about him.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    Ok, research shows that apparently Reid should properly have noted that Obama rarely speaks in African-American Vernacular English. Well, that’s a mouthful.

                  • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                    That’s… what she said?

                  • Whatever says:

                    If you think Reid’s comments are insulting to black people, you should see the research on Racial IQ comparisons as they relate to evolution. There have been a lot of studies done and a lot of books written and they basically all say that Africans are some of the dumbest people in the world because they are less evolved than other humans. If I were of African descent I would be highly offended. The scientists stop just short of calling Africans the missing link.

                  • Default User says:

                    Um, can you point me in the direction of some of these studies/books?

                  • mabsba says:

                    DU, there were such IQ tests done. The real result was that they revealed the biases of IQ tests, not that Africans were less intelligent. IQ tests are incredibly culturally and socially biased. I don’t know how accessible the results are; the tests I know of were done in the 70s and 80s.

                  • Default User says:

                    Oh, well, that actually makes sense then. Now I’m not interested in reading them.

                  • mabsba says:

                    Well, since we’re all descended from Africans (the anthropologists do call it the cradle of humanity), how could they be less evolved than any other group?

                    I actually had an office mate in grad school whose dad used those invalid test results to ‘prove’ such ‘facts’ about African-Americans.

                  • Danbala says:

                    Well, since we’re all descended from Africans (the anthropologists do call it the cradle of humanity), how could they be less evolved than any other group?

                    That just goes to show exactly how stupid they are!!!*

                    *) !!!11111!!1!1!!!

                  • mabsba says:

                    That made sense, right? I mean, if you comprehend evolutionary science and I know you do. To explain properly would take pages and pages and pages…. :)

                  • Danbala says:

                    Yep, it made sense. :)

              • dissimilitude says:

                Not really…Trent Lott said we’d be better off if we’d elected a segregationist as President. You don’t see a distinct difference in there? Ok, I actually looked up what Lott said:

                “I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over all these years, either.”

                Given that Thurmond’s actual party platform included the statement “We stand for the segregation of the races and the racial integrity of each race,” I don’t see a lot of wiggle room there.

                • Nebton says:

                  I think the wiggle room is in assuming that Trent Lott was being ignorant about Thurmond’s record, which is actually somewhat believable.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    Ah, well, I can see that aspect of it, if that was the case. How embarrassing if he was….knowing that Thurmond ran for President and not knowing he was a segregationist? Impressive ignorance on his part if he managed it.

                  • I Like Peanut Butter says:

                    I would think quite a few people didn’t realize Thurmond was a segregationalist.

                  • Nebton says:

                    ILPB: Younger people, yes, but you’d think someone as old as Lott would’ve known it – or someone who was extolling how much better off we would’ve been if Thurmond had won. That said, I stand by my assertion that it’s believable that he didn’t, and that his comment was just the usual insincere tripe coming out of a politician’s mouth.

                  • dissimilitude says:

                    Really? I thought it was pretty much….what he was famous for, other than being old. ;-) I remember them making a big deal over it when it turned out he had an illegitimate secret black daughter.

          • Well they are. But we’re talking about Rush Limbaugh specifically. The conversation you’re talking about is entirely too generic for the topic at hand.

        • PortlandMark says:

          Yeah, you’re right. My comment was trollish and unwarranted. I was so disgusted with what I read, I needed to get it out in the open.

          However, those of you that are offended, the proper response was, “Yeah, you’re right. Those men *are* jerks”. It is not proper to shoot the messenger.

          Still, sorry for trollin’.

      • I Like Peanut Butter says:

        **Applauds** I concur.

      • Default User says:

        A persons a person no matter how small!

        Sorry…I’ll stop quoting Dr Seuss now.

        • viking gal says:

          Awww! :(
          I likes Dr. Seuss!

          “This one drives a little car
          This one has a little star
          See how many fish there are?” :D

          • Default User says:

            I like the Tweedle Beatles. But quoting that is much more impressive in person because it’s a giant tongue twister! I <3 Fox in Sox!

          • dissimilitude says:

            One of my favorites:
            “Look what we found in the park, in the dark!
            We will take him home. We will call him ‘Clark’.
            He will live at our house. He will grow and grow!
            Will our mother like this? We don’t know….”

            At one point when my kids were little I could recite “One Fish Two Fish” all the way through from memory….oh, and Viking Gal? I think it’s “How many, many fish there are!”

            • viking gal says:

              :oops: Well, I don’t have kids, so it HAS been a while!

              • mabsba says:

                So you are NOT my mother?

                • viking gal says:

                  *checks ovaries* Nope–you are not the fruit of my loins. Sorry!

                  • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                    I’ve always thought “fruit of my loins” was a strange phrase… and the mental images… sheesh.

                    • shortright the ivanist who thinks clothes are overrated says:

                      max, i don’t know why you’d think that was so strange… that’s where i keep all my fresh fruits when i come home from the grocery store.

                      oranges, apples, strawberries… they’re all in the snatch.
                      ;-)

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      That’s a lot of junk in the front trunk!

                    • mabsba says:

                      That sounds extremely…uncomfortable. ;)

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      Well, it can hold a kid… I guess some fruits wont be too much of a stretch.

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      Oh god! And I didn’t mean for that pun to happen! But it did!

                    • mabsba says:

                      Do you think ‘holding’ a kid is comfortable? ;)

                    • oɹɹɐɥɔ says:

                      My favourite phrase in regards to that “Squeezing something the size of a watermelon out a hole the size of a grape.”

                    • mabsba says:

                      Well, that would be delivery, which I didn’t actually do. (Crash c-section at 30 weeks.) I just meant the whole ‘carrying’ the kid about. :)

                      I think it was Bill Cosby who said to imagine delivery, grab your lower lip and pull it completely over your head.

                    • oɹɹɐɥɔ says:

                      Well, I’ve never had a kid so I don’t know.. Maybe I should have used to word “related” instead of “in regards”.

                    • mabsba says:

                      No, no. I love that quote. What’s really fun after having a c-section is having someone tell you that you ‘didn’t really have a child since you didn’t deliver it.’ Don’t know why my silly friends won’t let me punch people. :)

                    • oɹɹɐɥɔ says:

                      Well whose bloody child would it be then!?

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      Ghost babies! ZOMG!

                    • mabsba says:

                      Apparently it just doesn’t count…hence the thwarted punching attempt.

                    • froofrou the fierce says:

                      I hate it when they imply that having a C-section was “easy,” as though the recovery time doesn’t matter or something. I’ve seen women go from pushing out a baby to being all fine and normal within a week. It took every bit of 8 weeks for my first and 4 for my second to even start feeling human again after being sawed in half.

                    • mabsba says:

                      No sh*t. (‘Scuse my French.) However, I almost died before the c-section and was deathly ill afterward, so my experience was, fortunately, not normal. Mom, an RN, says it takes six months to recover from any major surgery.

                    • mabsba says:

                      Oh, and don’t forget the part about how you somehow ‘failed’ as a mother for not delivering your child in the ‘proper’ way.

                    • froofrou the fierce says:

                      Or that you must have done something wrong during the pregnancy to need an emergency c-section (my daughter was born at 33 weeks because my liver was about to shut down…I recovered as soon as she was born, however, so my experience was easier than yours. {{{{hugs}}}})

                    • mabsba says:

                      Yes, I literally came really close to punching someone after one of those comments: But what did you do wrong? Always delivered in that sweet, pseudo caring tone of voice.

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      Clearly ladies… as a single non fathering male, I can safely say, you did it wrong…
                      *runs away making the Daffy Duck “Woohoo” noise*

                    • froofrou the fierce says:

                      *watches Max run away*

                      I say, Mabs, is that not the smallest genitalia you’ve ever seen on a human male above the age of three months?
                      ;-)

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      But but… I got the surgery… Annie paid for it!
                      *cries*

                    • Default User says:

                      After having lapriscopic surgery last year to remove a cyst and the ovary it was attached to, I seriously regretted not saying “And while you’re in there, go ahead and take the other ovary out too.” just so I would never have to run the risk of a C-section.

                    • mabsba says:

                      Well, perhaps not, Froo. My son WAS only 5 lbs at 3 months. Say, my brother said he’d lend us his bird dog; still got that shotgun? :evil:

                      Pst, DU, you probably wouldn’t have enjoyed the instant menopause. But it’s ridiculous they didn’t offer to tie you off at the same time.

                    • Default User says:

                      I’m 24, so they were trying to convince me to go for regular surgery which would allow me to (most likely) keep the ovary, but would have had a longer recovery time. They had this idea that I want to be fertile and able to have children. I told my mother what was going to happen and she started freaking out. “But your ovary! Children!” “It’s cool mom, I have a spare, and I still don’t want kids”

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer Beatlist Pope John Paul George Ringo the First says:

                      DU it’s not just da wimmenz they do that to. Before I went in to get my hernia repair surgery I was going to opt to have a vasectomy done as well. Because I’m under 30 the surgeon shied away from it, stating that “The medical community refrains from doing a procedure like that to folks who are just starting out in life.”
                      So apparently, if your junk’s in working order, they discourage you from not being able to pop one out. Silly really.

      • To make things perfectly even, when insulting a conservative or Republican, please make sure to cite everything bad a liberal or Democrat has ever said or done, but then to make it even again, make sure to insult everything bad Republicans and conservatives have ever said or done. That’s the only way to be fair. And would be one very long post.

        • Default User says:

          Um, but what about things that are considered bad by one party, but good by the other? Or are limiting it to things only considered bad by both parties?

    • n10bettes says:

      Have you recently been voted the official PK “Look what those dirty conservatives are saying now” reporter? Good job!

    • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

      *sigh* This has been rehashed ad nauseum — years of advance warning, a population that refused to evacuate, a poor excuse for a citywide evacuation plan that couldn’t have accommodated them anyway, an incompetent mayor, an even more incompetent governor — yet somehow it’s Bush’s fault.

      Do you ever read Andrew Sullivan? You two seem to be on very similar Bush arcs.

      • Okay now, don’t go putting words in my mouth. The fact that Louisiana and NO was woefully unprepared for Katrina doesn’t change the fact that the Bush administration dropped the ball. And I think that’s a big reason why Obama responded as he has. He doesn’t want that kind of backlash. I don’t blame him. But you are absolutely right. The state and local government down there totally dropped the ball, and I would never lay all the blame at Bush’s feet. I just meant he reacted poorly to the situation.

        • *Louisiana & NO were woefully unprepared. Bah grammar fail!

        • Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

          The immediate federal response was hindered by the idiocy of the governor — she waited too long to ask for federal assistance. (Remember that the Coast Guard was there plucking people off of rooftops right away, because they aren’t DOD.) The later response was bad — probably average by the standards of big bureaucracy — but it wasn’t responsible for major and preventable loss of life, which puts the administration into a distant second in my blame book.

          Never mind that some fairly odious individuals managed to turn “Katrina” into a racial code word.

          • viking gal says:

            Katrina was a total and complete kluster-fcvk. Congress had refused years of requests to repair and upgrade the levee system. FEMA had been redesigned, taking away the local input as to what the locals KNEW were the big risks, and they also allowed the purchase of toxic-laden trailers afterwards. The Governor failed to make a declaration of emergency. The city of New Orleans failed to account for the fact that a very large portion of locals did not have personal vehicles, nor the money to pay for a bus ride out. The locals without cars failed to evacuate properly. The federal government refused the offers of emergency assistance from a huge list of other nations. (the list is on Wikipedia, as well as other sources).
            The only organization that prepared well was *gag* the dreaded Walmart, who had looked at the predictions for the hurricane season, and had stationed trailers full of bottled water to donate at need. Props to them, and also to CVS for not giving people difficulty in filling prescriptions when they had lost all of their documentation. Pbbbt on everyone else.

            • viking gal says:

              I really mean the ‘pbbbt’. The plenitude of the fault does not excuse anyone who participating in the decision-making. Including the administration at the time, the Red Cross executives, etc. They all deserve our scorn.

  6. Spanky wants to smack EWAdams says:

    Obama ? Or Rush ?

  7. Dhoti the anti EWAdamsist says:

    In the news today: Democrat Danny Glover blames Haiti’s troubles on global warming.

  8. Ray says:

    OMG I saw that guy in NYC last year!


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