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I beg to pardon. Its grandma!
Who remembers Mike Dukakis in the tank?
He made eternity in a Futurama joke. Hey, I should make a lol about that.
A Futurama lol would be good, but please, it’s bad enough that people go back to the last election for lols. Make something CURRENT with Futurama.
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That episode was actually on last night. I saw it and thought “ZOMG!! Max is teh psychic!!!”
I remember it.
How mortifying.
You young whippersnappers and your newfangled interwebs.
There ought to be a law!
Vladurday…in Soviet Russia it relax on YOU!
Phbltttt.
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Red Wings. Sucking this season.
This has two meanings. One of them makes me want to vomit.
You just made it really weird for me because the first thing I thought of was the shoe company.
Jane just gave me my LOL for the day!
Jane, I was SO not going there.
See my avatar there? St. Louis Blues fan. I despise the Detroit Red Wings like any good little Blues fan does. So when I say that the Red Wings are sucking, I mean they haven’t played nearly as well as in recent seasons.
Mmm Janie… please tell me you share my hatred of those dirty redwings? And no, I’m not capitalizing that team’s name…. EVER!
Why do you hate the shoes?
Just as long as we all understand that there is nothing lower on the face of the earth than a sh*t filled, stinking, slimy, crawling, nogoodnik New York Ranger.
Is Brak a Devils fan by chance? And I do have a severe dislike for the Rangers, but I’m a Western Conference kind of guy, and in my life there has been some fantastic Norris Division rivalries. So I still have much hatred for the Wings and the Hawks going back to the early 90′s, as well as the Maple Leafs and Stars. I’m working on hating the Blue Jackets and Predators, but it’s still pretty new.
All this hatred and rage! This explains why ‘Sports nuts’ are going to hell!
I thought we were talking about shoes?
FROTH!! NIKE RULZ REDWINGS DROOLZ!!! LOL!
NIKE > CONVERSE > ADIDAS > NEW BALANCE > REDWINGS
@Rando…LET’S GO FLYERS!
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Red Wings, earned ‘em!
That’s nasty.
Get your mind out of the gutter! Jeez! Link
*gigglesnort*
You earned the Detroit Red Wings? Mike Illitch isn’t gonna be happy.
Either usage of the words is a dirty horrible shame. Both of them.
Oh yeah sez u!!! *frothyfrothityfroth* lol!
Might I turn to the book of Corinthigenesis. Chapter 4 verse 20:
And the lord did say unto them, “Lo look upon the birds in the sky and the animals of the earth, look upon the fish of the oceans, and know that my love and care should be extended to them. But not the redwings… they’re dumb, and should be hated.”
Thus sayeth the Lord.
Redd Foxx standing by….Dummy!
Crap! I missed it!
I stink.
That’s a waste of good honey!!!
Is there such a thing as bad honey? :O)
I don’t believe honey can ever go bad, though I understand that in the right conditions it can ferment. However, that still isn’t bad honey, just really think mead.
Ever had mead wine – VERY potent, only a small amount needed!!! I’m sure I have a recipe for it somewhere
We’ll have to think of something else to cover EWA in . . .
How about Karo syrup? It isn’t honey, it isn’t molasses, it isn’t good maple syrup, so I figure it has not reason for being!
Excellent idea VG!
I don’t know what Karo is; we don’t have it here in UK, but it sounds good! Let’s get going!!
Karo is actually a brand name for corn syrup, but like Xerox, it was first and so dominant in market share for so long that it’s often used as the generic name. I actually can’t think of any other brand corn syrup is sold under here in the US…
*has flashbacks of mother decorating cakes and using karo syrup to make icing*
Mead is nommy, but it’s typically composed of slightly more than just honey. I think mead made entirely of honey would require a spoon to drink..er…eat.
Yeah over here in Oz we have a couple of meads and they’re made from honey and wheat. Its kinda like some of the very nommy wheat beers you get from Germany like Paulaner.
Hunh?
Real? Sure
Respected? Not so much
Feared? Most certainty
I seem to remember Bush getting his way with world leaders. Now world leaders just walk all over Obama. Almost a Russian Reversal.
Define “get his way.”
He had coalitions of the willing ? (until they were no longer willing)
I loled. The Star Wars pun is good on so many levels. The blue eyes are not bad either.
Oh hell no. There is NO WAY that Putin is siding with the Rebels. That man is an Imperial dude if ever I’ve seen one.
He’s obviously a double agent, he’s probably planning on shooting Luke down when no one is looking.
Paul, you bring a shame and reproach to the Gospel. You’ve identified yourself with them, then turn around a spew nothing but hate. I think you better check which spirit you have there sir.
It’s one thing to disagree and speak about the difference, and a totally different thing to just make hateful remarks. And yours are simply hateful, and full of pride.
Remember this…… Proverbs 16: 18 ¶ Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
He’s just trying to make attention catching copywriting for his feckin’ blog. :p
It doesn’t change the nature of his spew…..
Hmm, your analysis makes me think that we should go with the sophisticated Swedish response: Phblttt.
My insistent and consistent raspberrying might make more sense if one knows how my analysis goes, yes….
Didn’t really need the analysis as justification.
Just liked how thoughtful it was when mine was: it’s a twit!
I like to comment on his blog. It doesn’t actually do any good, but it’s cathartic.
Do any of your comments ever make it?
Pot, meet kettle.
You mean you make the gospels look bad, yes, Ivan, you do. And also do such a wonderful job of showing that liberal tolerance we hear so much about….. NOT.
Ivan, you are just as bad as Paul/Ioannes. Both of you simply shoot your mouth off to anyone that doesn’t live like either of you think they should. Every time you see a Paul/Ioannes post, remember you are looking at a mirror reverse of yourself.
Yeah, and you positively DRIP with christian values…NOT. I don’t claim to be a christian. I guess I’m not enough of a hypocrite.
You wouldn’t know Christian values if Jesus Christ himself sat you down and showed them to you.
And you most certainly are a hypocrite. You start a discussion whining about atheists being bullied, and in the very discussion you go on to admit you actually believe there might actually be some creator/deity or such. You crack on others with all the “sky daddy” and other such garbage, when no matter what they believe, in reality, it’s simply a different version than what you believe. And I can’t even give you credit for accepting others beliefs.
You show me by scripture something I’m doing wrong. I don’t doubt that you might find something. I don’t claim to be infallible. I’ve even admitted to loosing my cool with a troll on here. (Funny, I think the troll was attacking YOU) But I don’t doubt one bit that the things you don’t like about me disagree with scripture. But then again, you keep trying to associate old testament Hebrew law to new testament Christians, so I don’t know what to expect. But I have no doubt you will be filled with just as much hate as your mirror twin up there.
I can cut and paste it dude. You did say that you believed in something, and no matter how much you lie, I’ve got you. Busted like a cheap Chinese knock off.
And while Jesus was kind, loving and forgiving, he also told a few people off, but you always seem to forget that. Rather conveniently I might add.
Thank you so much for showing the world how big a hate filled nasty person you really are.
Pleas, paste it, so I can explain it in a way your narrow little mind can grasp.
You mean you just went and deleted it. Afraid of what you said. You can deny it here all you want, and maybe even make me look bad here. But I know what you said, and you can’t never change that fact. You said at one point you actually wish you knew for sure.
I deleted nothing! Lie, and then lie some more to cover yourself. LOL I NEVER said I was questioning. I don’t believe there is any creator or deity, and I never said I was unsure. You can’t find it, because I never said it. Liar liar pants on fire. *giggle*
No, I read it. And there is still a similar one talking about something spiritual, but that you don’t really believe. But, go ahead and gloat. You deleted it before I could find and copy it.
One can be spiritual without believing in a deity. And I deleted nothing. You can’t delete posts here, ass. You’re just embarrassed because you found out that you confused me with VNV or someone else, ass. Proof or it never happened, ass. Lying ass.
It wasn’t on here Ivan, and you know that! It was on PKIR2.
And go on, get nasty with me. It just shows your sexual frustration!
My girl would question that sexual frustration thing, but it’s ok. You can have your fantasies of me.
I never deleted anything from FB either. You are SO paranoid! LOL
As a matter of fact, let ME copy/paste what I wrote on FB, in the discussion about atheism and agnosticism:
Hard-core atheist here. (Oh, like any of you are surprised.
) I don’t believe in anything supernatural, but I do feel a sort of connection with the earth. I won’t use the word “spiritual” though. An odd anachronism; I like ghost hunting. Never caught one, so I still don’t believe. I think it’s more for the spooky thrill. I am actually envious of people who DO believe in a god or gods. It must be comforting to think that a “sky daddy” is looking out for you, providing for you. I just can’t make myself believe in one. There’s too much evidence (IMO) to the contrary.
As I said, you already deleted the other comment. +10 golden interwebs on the quick action!
WHAT other comment? You have a rich and colorful fantasy life, dude.
I do have a rich fantasy life. I have a smokin hot wife who loves me very much, and 5 wonderful children. A great church, lots of friends, and a warm roof over my head.
And I have the satisfaction that I know what I read. You can, and will deny it, but I know it.
Like I said , +10 interwebs for deleting it so quickly. And almost, but not quite for the pretending that it was on here instead of FB.
Oh, I don’t need the ky intense. I get it done with out it. I can give you a few pointers, if you promise to stop this sexual thing you have with harassing me.
You’re a christian talking like that? I’ll bet your pastor would LOVE to see it.
There’s nothing wrong with what I said! Not a thing. It’s one of your delusions that Christians can’t have a good sex life. In fact, we are told to come together joyfully!
We’re also told to instruct help those in need. And you sir, are in more need than any man in history.
And since you so often confuse the old and new testament, I would think you would be very familiar with the Song of Solomon. Nothing dirty about sex, we are just expected to make a life long commitment with it.
There’s an easy way to solve this. All of the people on FB came from here. So all of you cross PK/FB people, have any of you (besides this delusional ass) seen me post that I believe in a deity or creator? EVER? Or have I always maintained that I am an atheist, and don’t believe in an invisible sky friend?
I think he may have seen someone else post in the same thread, and somehow got it in his head that it was my post. I honestly do NOT believe, and have never said that I did.
Oh, and if you allegedly saw something like that, you would have called me on it immediately. And it would have turned into a pissing match between us, and everyone would have saw it.
ivan – chill.
JAC – chill.
deep breaths guys… come on.
and ivan, no you didn’t post that you believed in a god/creator/etc. i believe that was VNV… however, it’s not worth getting all riled up over. you said your peace, just walk away from it.
*walking away*
Oh, and lest I forget…
*snuggles his shorty*
*snuggles ivan*
remember, tomorrow’s oral day.
YIPPEEEE!!! *does his tongue exercises*
Actually, I kept said nothing to keep it from being a pissing contest.
I don’t know what your problem is, or why you are suddenly being such a horses ass, but things have been quiet for a while. We have different ideals and opinions. Get over it.
You talk about your ideals as though they are correct. And then get upset because I do the same.
I actually thought you of all people, would get a chuckle out of me thwacking Paul. When he, or any other troll deserves it, and I’m not #431,245 in line to do it, I thwack trolls just the same as you do. I have no preference of liberal/conservative.
Have you two seriously been at this for two days?
Because the group is buggy as always for me I can’t read odler discussions, but is it possible you’re thinking of one VNV’s posts?
I bow to you, sir.
LOL. People like Paul are what makes people like Ivan able to do their respective rants. It’s almost like the Batman/Joker creating each other thing…….
Between us, Waylon, YOU hold the record on “rants”. You’re a sanctimonious, pompous, judgmental ass. You love to preach, and act like you know everything, when in fact, you are one of the most narrow minded bigots displaying the LEAST christian tendencies EVER. And FYI, folks are starting to block you on FB, so they don’t have to see you spew your nastiness. It’s a fact, I know of two people right now, but I choose to respect their right to anonymity.
Actually it’s one. And she simply doesn’t like my point of view. And I take your latest attempt of liberal compassion and acceptance of diversity as a badge of honor. If you think I’m not doing things the Christian way, then odds are I’m 99 44/100% that I am.
And the hypocritical thing I noticed here? A few weeks ago you were bashing me for (in your warped mind) not shutting down the conservatrolls, accusing me of one sided thinking. And when I do, here you come a running with the attacks. All in all, what I see out of you is a weak mind, simply looking for chinks in the armor. You so love to quote scripture to accuse Christians, but I seem to notice that you never, ever seem to find the scripts that talk about Christians learning as they grow, making mistakes and trying harder. All it ever is from you is hate and bash. Hate and bash. Yeah, you and Paul/Ioannes are 2 feathers of the same bird. Nasty and spiteful.
The spit is coming off of you in WAVES, my friend. All I said was “Pot, meet kettle” and you FLEW into a rage. LOL You are SO EASY to rile. *does a little atheist jig*
Oh, and BTW, there are others who are tired of your preachy ways. There’s another who left the PK FB group…because of YOU! I’ll bet that makes you proud.
You keep saying that, and I go check, and no one is missing. Caught in a lie. Again.
And calling you out isn’t a rage. Grow up, little boy.
Hmm, NO ONE is gone? Poor memory you got there. But I’m not outing anyone here.
Carry on.
I can’t find a one. While one lady blocked me from seeing her page after we disagreed, no one has left.
This person left IMMEDIATELY after you were added at PKI 2.0. It wasn’t recent. Deny it happened all you want. I just found out yesterday that YOU are the reason this person left.
No. That young man left because he broke the rules, and didn’t want to be respectful. He was kicked off, and didn’t leave of his own terms. He was invited to return, but got nasty with the admin too.
No, not him. But I respect this person’s right to privacy. Now, if this person would like to post here, and back me up on this, then that’d be great. Otherwise, I am respecting this person’s privacy.
In other words, you just made something up. And if it was real, that sure shows a great deal of acceptance of others ways of thinking. Their problem, not mine.
Believe what you want, if it makes you feel better.
Hmmm, more double standard from you. You declare that I must prove things, yet you simply have to make things up and imply them.
And as I said, if your make believe person can’t handle others of differing opinions, they need help. Not me.
And the funniest thing? If you managed to chase someone off, you would be bragging about it. Just like you were bragging about planning on friending Paul/Iaonnes on FB, just so you could go to his personal page and attack him there. Responding to his comments is one thing, personal attack is you MO.
The difference being that I am protecting someone from your vile spew.
Really Ivan? Liar. I spoke up against Paul. Then here you come bashing. You and I have not had a lot to say in a while. You started all this for no real reason. None at all.
And I stand by my claim. It’s hate filled people like you that that enable people like Paul to spew.
And no amount of excuses can explain the way you intended to personally attack Paul on his FB page. It simply shows your immature mind.
Ivan’s not lying. When I left PKI, I said I left for privacy reasons. What I didn’t say (to try to be nice) was that there were people who joined outside of the original closeknit bunch who I didn’t like and who I didn’t want having any access to my personal information. I’ve tried to be nice to you for the most part, but having you on our FB group just kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Especially since you act the same way there that you do here. So no, Ivan didn’t lie. He exaggerated slightly since you’re not the only reason I left. But you were one reason. So back off of my boy, Ivan. And Ivan, WAY TO KEEP IT SUBTLE.*facepalm*
JAC – you mentioned tygor leaving PKIR2 as him being kicked out. he was never kicked out. he left of his own accord when i deleted a few of his (and your) posts when you two were in a pissing match. he thought i sided with you and blocked me entirely on FB as well as left the group. for all i know he could still be in PKIR2, but because i’m blocked i don’t see anything he posts anywhere. i’ve seen charro comment back to him on several of her wall posts and such on her personal page, but i’ve never once seen what he writes.
there’s only been one person who has ever been kicked out of the group and even that wasn’t permanent.
Well, then I misunderstood about Tyler. And Rando, keep this in mind. I’m not the one implying giving out people’s personal information on here. Looks like you guessed wrong on that.
And I stick with what I said earlier. If you left, then it’s your intolerance of others. Rando, you are just as outspoken as I am, just with differing opinions.
You’re not the only conservative on PKI. My political opinions differ fairly greatly from froo & shortright as well, but I think they’re awesome. Sorry, dude, it’s not the politics. It’s you. And since I know you’ll likely respond again, I’ll bow out now and let you have the last word since that’s your thing.
Yeah, how about an apology for calling me a liar? No? I thought not. Ok, feel free to get that last word now. I’m done.
Feel free to get the last word in= I don’t have a decent honest response.
And no matter how I try to give the benefit of the doubt, it still comes out as “whaaaaaaaa, there are people who I can’t shut down their thoughts, so I have to leave.”
Actually, I proved my point. I was right, you were wrong. I won, you lost. You said I lied, I proved that I didn’t, so I’m done. Oh crap! I messed up your “last word”. Go ahead and post again, I won’t respond.
Actually, I didn’t lie, I didn’t know. Big difference.
And you keep saying that you wont respond, yet you do! And you are the one who keep saying that it’s such a bad thing!
All I can think of re the Paul creature is Firesign Theater’s Book of Hunter.The big difference, of course, they were trying to be funny.
Hey! +5 Funny points on a Vladurday!
Did Ioannes try to make a joke? “when they are so right – er, I mean left….”
I think he’s being more careful since he was moderated.
Wish Uncle Fester would pop in to “moderate”. Anybody heard anything about the cranky bastard?
He was killed by EvilPundit
No, he was moderated for his inappropriate posts.
Evil Pundit left after the election went the opposite way of what he was spouting. He hasn’t appeared as a commenter on any of the lols since. Uncle Fester went well beyond that but also had severe health problems and more then likely found dealing with that to take up more time and attention than what he could give insulting people on a lol site.
Pretty much what I figured too.
*HUGS!* Before you vanish!
*hugs*
Sad to hear that. Hope all is well for him.
Nothing better to do than start a flame war huh?
Scott Brown is another establishment Redumblican. He voted for a similar health care bill in Mass. One WITH a public option. Real conservative of him.
Wake up and smell the coffee son. NEITHER party is for us.
The sad fact is that for a looong time now, the good of the country has been subjugated to the good of the party.
Yes, I can agree with that. ON BOTH SIDES.
I third that.
You are correct dear. Now is NOT the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party. Now is the time to consider other ways. The Party (all of ‘em) has unfortunately usurped the country. This ain’t supposed to be a club rivalry…it’s supposed to be about running the country efficiently with the most possible good for all it’s citizens. S’posed ta, anyhow.
Both parties are full of “S’potas”. A “S’pota” (we all know one at least), is that guy who owes us money and says “I know I owe you, and I’m s’pota get paid this week. Can’t you just loan me $5?”
The S’pota is bi-partisan as well as a-partisan. There are S’potas on both sides. S’pota take care of the people.
It disgusts me that now there’s this violent divide between the “sides” – because the other side is evil, so any of their ideas and people who represent them are evil too. I don’t know why it has to be about sides, why can’t we just sit down and do what’s best for everyone? Ugh.
If the miserable little men in charge, on both sides of the chamber, or whatever, would stop trying to make it a moral crusade out of it and just go about the BUSINESS of running things to everyone’s good…ahhh, what’s the use? They all seem incapable of understanding that it is NOT about morals, it’s S’poseta be about making the country work smoothly and happily. Treat it like the administrative job that it is. How freaking hard can it be? Hmm..apparently, pretty hard, eh?
Why don’t you make voting compulsory in the US then?
You’d kick those bastards in DC into shape in no time, also you’d significantly reduce the power of lobbyists
Um…from what I understand compulsory voting isn’t that popular, what is popular is getting drunk on voting day and then going out to vote. That seems like a bad idea to me.
*hic* Can youse ‘splain to me what “straight Republishan’ means? *hic*
Ish a dude who doeshn’t like other dudesh *falls over*
I fell down! *giggles*
Heys! Cans we write in our kittehs?
I can’t remember how to shpell kitteh. I’m gonna vote for…uh…um…*looks down and see’s her “Gandalf for president” button* him! He’sh aweshome!
Oooooooooooooooooooooo…oooooooooo…I’m a ghoast. Wait, we’erz votin’! Gandalf! Yesh. Let’s do him!
Ok!
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I can’t remember how to spell Gandlaf…
If it got rid of the homo politicius (Also known as the self-righteous douchebag species), I think I’d be all for anarchy at this point- no matter how bad it sucked. In short, I agree, Brak.
Young Igor is in…cool!
Long time no see. Hope all is well, mate.
*also agrees*
Everytime you talk to me in Latin Igor… I go homo erectus….
Just sayin… I love you man.
I don’t really like Putin, or Star Wars, but, looks funny.
You should try Putin, if you think Obama is bad.
No one cares what you think.
I do.
Just kidding.
I feel the need………………
…*high fives* fer SPEED!
It’s time to buzz the tower……
Negative Ghostrider; the pattern is full.
…….That’s TWICE……2 of your snot nosed jockeys flew by my tower at over 400 knotts. I want some butts and I want them NOW!
You can start with Ivan’s…. *snort*
Sorry, JAC. Couldn’t resist that one
*snort* +5 interwebs for you!
Yeah, I’m not the one with the obsession with another man’s body parts. Talking about touching others genitals and searching for man boobs.
*flips upside down and hovers near Putin’s jet*
*shows him the bird*
Greetings! SOMEONE TAKE A PICTURE!
*click* {flash} Yeah Maverick, I should be a photographer…..
The least they could have done was given me credit for uploading the pic.. *sigh*
*pats ed on the back* That’s ok Ed, we all know and appreciate it!
Jesus was a liberal, and he doesn’t love you.
Jesus rode a donkey!
And provided free health care!
And free love!
Okay, I think I misinterpreted that for a minute.
I bet you did..
That’s what you think.
I beg to differ. He paid the ultimate price for it all. Himself.
I think she means healing the sick. Exactly what values do you actually think Jesus held that were even remotely conservative?
Waylon makes Baby Jebus cry.
No, actually I made Jesus Christ cry. Me and the millions of others that were in his plan of redemption before the foundations of the world. Yes, I’m worthy of death, and unfit to kill. But the most innocent human being that ever was stood in my place, and shed his blood as a sacrifice for us all. And no matter how nasty you or others get, you can’t change a thing about my salvation. In fact, it’s considered an honor to be spoken evil of. You hate me because I don’t worship God in the way you think I should. But you weren’t the one who saved me, and I have no intentions of allowing you to lead me in anything.
I don’t hate you. You make me laugh.
You’ve said here on PK that you hate me. About 2 weeks ago. Even admitted that you search me out to try and harass me. I’m beginning to wonder if you have a sexual thing for me.
Oh yes, you are so tasty! Man breasts do it for me.
If you think I have man boobs, you need glasses. And NO, you may not have a reach around. *sigh* Ivan, you really have become the terror that jerks off in the night. Darkwing duck is shamed of you.
I don’t watch cartoons. Outgrew ‘em.
I don’t watch them either, yet you so often remind me of that cartoon mindset.
You should both watch more cartoons.
I suggest Warner Bros and MGM up to the mid 50s when limited animation roont it.
Also, eat more bacon.
These things will make you happy and free.
And improve your dispositions.
Honest.
I’ve seen pictures of you. You have man-boobs.
*eats bacon*
There’s nothing wrong with cartoons. I like cartoons. Right now, I wish I was at home eating Frosted Flakes and watching Spongebob Squarepants. Being a grownup sucks.
Ivan, get your contacts/glasses changed. I’ve spent the last 7 years loading/carrying copy paper in the thousands of pounds, daily. Sometimes as much as six thousand pounds to a single delivery. Those pictures are there too, since you are so obsessed with my life.
As I get older, I am getting a little round around the middle, but I have a chest and arms like a body builder.
I think you read the nesting wrong. She said that Jesus provided free healthcare. It was free to you and I, yes, but it had a price. Emmanual, God with us, had to go to the cross and pay the price for sin. And it’s sin that brought sickness into this world.
Actually, it wasn’t free to me as I wasn’t there. But Jesus DID provide free health care, at least it is not recorded that he charged the lepers. “Free health care” meaning, in normal usage, that the patients did not pay the provider.
If you believe that an omnipotent god created the world, then that omnipotent god is responsible for sickness as well as everything else.
If you don’t believe in that omnipotent God, then why do you believe that Jesus existed and performed those miracles?
Yes, God knew about sickness and everything else. And he even said so. The Bible does actually state the God created evil, and that it serves a purpose, and will one day be done away with.
And when I said you and I, take that in the general sense. If you don’t accept it, then it isn’t for you. But Rando and I both claim to be Christian, so it does apply to us. And even when Jesus was practicing as the Great Physician, there was a commitment required by the individual. Pick up your cross and follow him.
JAC, please, I’m asking this nicely, stop with the sermons. You aren’t trying to debate anyone tonight, you’re just preaching at us and if I wanted to be preached at I’d go to church.
Hmmm, so I’m not allowed to respond when my faith is attacked? I simply responded with information. I didn’t tell anyone they were going to hell or they must obey or any such thing. People are talking about Jesus, and I contributed to the conversation. I didn’t bring religion/faith/Jesus up, and I most certainly will not avoid a conversation just because it is. I so love all the acceptance of others in here. And I just don’t seem to recall you getting upset at people when they make fun of Christianity or Jesus. Way to go with that diversity! Hear hear!
“Pick up your cross and follow him.” That’s being preachy, not providing info. And I did not attack your faith, merely stated a fact about the written record of Jesus’ life.
Pick up your cross was the price to be paid. Info. And you attacked with the whole God is responsible for everything. It’s true, but the sense you mean it in is an attack. Or at least that’s what it comes across to me. I’m just pointing out that it’s odd that you believe (by your words) that Jesus did the healing, but not in God.
If that was an attack, then you are being over sensitive. You should give others the benefit of the doubt.
I did not say I believed that Jesus did the healing, I was giving an example of what he is believed by many to have done, in keeping with the thread of harassing the idiot Ioannes since his comments are so out of keeping with the teachings of Christ.
And you are being preachy. And diversity does not mean I have to defend your religion.
“But Jesus DID provide free health care, at least it is not recorded that he charged the lepers. “Free health care” meaning, in normal usage, that the patients did not pay the provider.”
Diversity isn’t defending my religion, but it sure isn’t insulting it because you don’t agree with it. And I don’t see any other way to see your God is responsible comment other than an attempt to insult it. That’s not being over sensitive any more than you going off calling me preachy because I mentioned that in Jesus’ teachings, he required people to follow him. The healthcare had a cost. The blood of God living in the flesh of a man, and for the recipient of said healthcare to follow the will of before mentioned sacrifice. If you’re going to talk about Jesus, don’t get upset when others do it too. Not one time did I say anything condemning about you or anyone.
JAC, I wasn’t attacking you or your beliefs, but Mabs made a light joke about something Jesus is commonly known to have down and you went off on a religious rant about Jesus dying for our sins. I never claimed you said any of us where going to hell, but hellfire and damnation aren’t the only things required to preach at someone. I’ve heard enough sermons in my life, I don’t need anymore. There is a difference between contributing to a conversation/giving information and preaching.
Is decidedly preaching, as is this entire post [http://punditkitchen.com/2010/01/23/political-pictures-vladimir-putin-red-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-303778]. It’s not informative, it’s just you telling us what terrible people we all are because we aren’t Jesus.
And there’s no need to play the victim, I haven’t said anything against you or your religion, I’m just asking you not to preach at us. If Max came on here spouting the Torah, or ILPB told me about the wonders of..um Richard Dawkins? or BF started lecturing me on The Goddess, or Charro started going on about um…what ever Charro believes?, in the middle of a thread that was being humorous and not offensive I’d call them on it too. I have nothing against talking about religion or debating it, but blatant preaching is one of my serious pet peeves.
If you consider the comment about God being responsible for all the wrong a joke, then you are totally wrong, and I know no other way to state that.
I wasn’t preaching, but rather adding the factual information about Jesus, which others brought up. I promise you I am just as free as anyone else to contribute to conversations about Jesus. And if someone was disrespectful about Max’s or ILPB’s beliefs, I would call them on it too.
I repeat. Jesus was a liberal. And we really, really don’t need a sermon on here. Mabs made a comment on Jesus providing free health care, and that’s what he did, and you turn it into a long preachy rant about Jesus dying for us and how it wasn’t free because of him. Way to miss the point AND ruin a funny post.
Jesus was not a liberal Rando. That’s a delusion you have. for all the times you say that, you make yourself look foolish. Jesus did things that were part of both political spectrums.
And while the original comment was somewhat of a joke (though inaccurate) her later comment was not.
But there was an EXPECTED price to be paid for that “health care.” The bill was “sinning no more.” However, just like today, some people can’t, or won’t, pay the bill. I get what he’s trying to say, albeit a tad clumsily.
I find the fact that you think Jesus’ values aren’t the values of liberals insulting.
I find it insulting that you think Jesus was either political mindset insulting.
I see where the problem is.
“And even when Jesus was practicing as the Great Physician, there was a commitment required by the individual. Pick up your cross and follow him.”
Dude, you should have used a colon!!! Ah, for want of a functioning colon, it wouldn’t have seemed like a command or preaching, but an explanation of the sentence that preceeded it!
All this for a typo? Whew! Tough crowd.
You should be more careful to use your colon where appropriate, JAC, and periods should only be used monthly. LOL
But seriously, “pick up your cross” seemed like a stand-alone command rather than what you intended it to be. Apologies to the punctuation Not-sees!
Hmmmm. So much for the benefit of the doubt that others would expect. And hey, I’ve said it before, I have practiced the written language very much since I graduated high school in 1988. You don’t get to use it much building transmissions and driving trucks. It’s taken me all this time to get back used to spelling rules, and I am working on improving my grammar and sentence structure. But all in all, I still don’t think it was that hard to figure out.
No, man, I took it as a command, and as preaching, too. The way it was structured made my ass pucker a lil bit, ‘cuz I don’t want to read it, either, when I’m out for a giggle.
Just saying.
And yet you figured out what I meant. Just saying.
I didn’t. :p
You’re Swedish. You’re infected with teh SOSHILIZM, so of course you didn’t get it!! lol! *shudders*;)
Can I offer you a cookie instead?
By the way… can I just say…
You’re welcome for your religion JAC
We didn’t want it.
*evil laughter*
Okay, clearly Jesus wasn’t a politician and never would want to be. But I feel he shares many of the same values that we liberals do. I suppose it’s possible he shared some values that the conservatives hold too, but I think he’d also be disgusted by a lot of what goes on from people who claim to follow him. My interpretation clearly differs from yours. Although we all see Jesus, God, deity-of-choice, in whatever light that we want to, don’t we?
Oh man, I had to stifle some LOL on that one for fear of waking my Dad and stepmom.
*clears throat*
Curse you all to Zandru’s ninth and most frozen hell!
Better?
*giggles* By Zandru’s forge! Why would you curse me so?
I was all happy Charro came back, and now she’s cursing us? *sniff* Now we have to go figure out how to appease Zandru. Does he like brownies?
I don’t know. I’m not sure they even have brownies on Darkover.
lol. Probably something hot, right?
DU
I’m gonna give JAC the benefit of the doubt. I don’t think he meant to preach. I completely agree that his words come off as very preachy, but I think that’s where the confusion is coming from. His wording is wrong. If he had worded his statements differently, it would’ve came off as more informative than preachy.
Think about it this way, Mabs said: “Jesus gave free health care”. If JAC had said: “Well it wasn’t really free, the price is that you have to follow him”, then it doesn’t sound as preachy. I think that was the point he was trying to convey.
Yeah, if JAC had said it like that I wouldn’t have called it preaching, but he went on about bearing a cross, and how we are all unworthy and such that was completely unnecessary.
I could be mistaken on this as it’s been a while since I read the bible, but I don’t think Jesus required even that the person follow him when he healed someone.
lol. Yeah, what he ^^^^ said
You’re right. You didn’t have to follow him for him to heal you.
*facepalm*
I should have remembered that. Especially since I just came from church
Actually, I never said you or anyone else is unworthy. I said “I” was unworthy. Ivan was attacking my religious beliefs, quite plainly, and I spoke about them. That isn’t preaching to you. Not one iota.
And Jesus did tell people to follow him. He gave some instructions to go to the temple and tell about the healing, ect…. but everyone that asked got told to do something.
I’m sorry, but why are we calling Jesus’ requests to those he healed a price? I thought following Jesus wasn’t a price you pay. The healing was free. Asking the healed to follow him was his request, but what was he going to do if they refused? Say, “Oh you suck, BAM you’re sick again!”
The price is implied with the service. Kind of like tipping the veal, and trying your waiter….
He didn’t require it, but if you went on sinning and got sick again you were on your own… Since we all sin, they would need to follow him, and heck, who wouldn’t?
Well, if you go look at all I said, the most important price was his own sacrifice. He DID instruct those who came to him to follow him, and clarified at one point that those who did not obey him were not believers.
The only real direct cost was the blood of Jesus, being innocent and being God in flesh. Thus fulfilling the kinsman redeemer law. God made himself man so that we could be redeemed. Now that’s a cost. The ultimate gift. I think scriptures even say that there is no great gift than a man lays down his life for a friend.
It’s like the free personality tests offered by scientologist. You don’t HAVE to pay anything, but you are EXPOSED to their direct marketing techniques. Much more effective than telemarketing cold calls
Wake me when the sermon is over. zzzzzzzz
It’s a shame that you want to suppress public discussion of religion and faith. You are so tolerant Ivan!
The only time I don’t see you complaining about religion being discussed is when people are making fun of Christianity.
I’m not suppressing. I’m BORED with it. This is a political site. Not a religious site. I’m not the only one that wishes you’d shut up already with the preaching.
It’s funny, you keep flinging “intolerance” at me as if it were an insult to me. I AM intolerant. OF YOU. I simply cannot tolerate YOU, you pompous, stuffed shirt.
I have yet to preach a thing. Discussion of one’s religious beliefs isn’t preaching. Quite far from it.
And no matter how many names you fling at me, I’m not attracted to you. Get over it.
Yeah, Not. I answered a comment. Talking about religion in public isn’t preaching. What Paul/Ioannes does is preaching. What I did here is no more preaching than any of you expressing your motivations behind your beliefs and or values.
What Mabs said about healtcare is technically incorrect. The things I talked about with Ivan were simply responding to the personal attacks his sexual attraction seems to drive him to.
Well, your avatar IS pretty frickin’ hot…
You tend to use my name A LOT, dude. PLEASE stop trying to flirt with me.
Talking about your hard on for me (in disgust I might add) isn’t flirting with you. But you can always hope! Though I promise you, it will never happen.
The only contact I want with your genitalia is to punch you in it. And I DO know where you live.
Yes, you are obsessed with me. That’s for sure. And you know what town I love in……… I promise you that you will get your hat handed to you in a less than polite way should you ever follow through making a pass at me.
Way to turn the other cheek there bud…
Perhaps both of you should just make a tree and take a f*cking chill pill?
Jesus… do us Jews have to fix everything!?!?!
Ivan, the only way there would be rough stuff would be for your obsession to go to far. And no, you don’t know more than my town. But go ahead, post it so you can pretend that it’s an accident too. My actual street address is no where on FB, so I know you don’t have it. You may have went to something like whitepages and found an old address for me, but I made sure quite some time ago to block that.
Wow. I leave for a few hours and things get interesting. JAC, everyone is saying that you’re being preachy. Can’t you take a hint? And the last thing I need is for someone to preach to me about Christianity like I’m an idiot. I don’t come to my conclusions out of nowhere. Jesus is pure love. Unconditional love. That doesn’t sound like the Jesus you guys are talking about. He loved those who betrayed him, who killed him. We try to attribute human feelings to him that WE feel, but that’s not how it works.
Rando, I said that he loved those who did wrong. And I have to differ with you in that I’ve attributed human feelings to him. If anyone was, it was you, trying to define him as a liberal. Remember, I was the one who spoke up much earlier today stating that he was neither liberal or conservative.
And I wasn’t preaching to you, or anyone. Mark noticed this early on. It was others who simply get offended at the mere mention of Jesus in any way that isn’t mocking who took things as preaching.
It was even said that I told people they weren’t worthy, when I plainly said “I” wasn’t. People see just a bit, and jump the gun. Sad, really.
I think what you’re missing JAC is this one simple fact.
People here talk about Jesus all the time… and not in mocking ways.
All of your points could have been made with one simple sentence. They weren’t.
Instead you posted multiple thoughts and reasonings, reasonings based from the scripture. That’s preaching.
When Mabs said “Jesus gave out free health care.”
the non preachy retort would be “But according to the bible he paid for it.”
That’s all that needs to be said. Unless Mabs was born under a rock and somehow missed the Mormons knocking on her rock, She knows that Jesus died in the crucifixion for our sins. Everyone knows that about Jesus(whether they want to or not), or if they don’t then they’re obviously not smart enough to use a computer and get on PK. Stating something very clear as a reminder is making a reply. Stating something clear then going further is preaching.
The definition of preach: –verb (used with object)
1. to proclaim or make known by sermon (the gospel, good tidings, etc.).
2. to deliver (a sermon).
3. to advocate or inculcate (religious or moral truth, right conduct, etc.) in speech or writing.
–verb (used without object)
4. to deliver a sermon.
5. to give earnest advice, as on religious or moral subjects or the like.
6. to do this in an obtrusive or tedious way.
Unfortunately, just about any talk about religious points of view is preaching by the definition. I’m just sayin…
No, it was that you were preaching. There have been plenty of mentions of Jesus and God in past lols that were in no way mocking either of them of Christianity and I never complained about them because they were relevant to the conversation and were in fact part of a conversation, not a sermon. I have no problem with mention of Christianity, Jesus, or God. I do however get really annoyed with people proselytizing at me. I was once a Christian, I am not anymore. This isn’t going to change. Nothing you can say will change it and the more people preach at me the more I begin to dislike Christians as a whole, even the good ones who are just trying to live their lives like everyone else.
Max is my favorite Jew. Ok, 2nd favorite, right after Jon Stewart.
Aw. Max is my second favorite Jew too! My first favorite is my twin though. Ok, so technically she isn’t related to me in any way, shape, or form people still see us together and think we’re twins. Jon Stewart is my third favorite.
Second favorite for me, too. (First has to be my crazy friend with the Uzi — he has an Uzi, after all!)
Never tell someone with an Uzi they aren’t your favorite.
Is he an Isreali Jew mabs? All jews from Isreal have uzis… which is why I ask
And if anyone took offense to that.. I’m sorry…. that your Isreali Jews won’t let you hold their uzi.
No, his family moved here from Columbia when he was 10-12 years old, and he grew up mostly in Texas. They (he and his dad) have a fully auto Uzi…so as to be ready when the Nazis return.
Hehehehe, ever seen Dead Snow? It’s a Zombie movie… with Nazi Zombies….
That’s right: NAZI ZOMBIES F*CK YES!
Oh and might I just say that I am honored to be anywhere on anyone’s top 10 favorite Jews… It’s the self guilt part of me that says I don’t think I deserve to be on anyone’s top 50.
Awww what no jewish love for Mel Brooks?
Oh, and in response to your earlier comment, he did offer to let me use his Uzi, but only if I was willing to drive to where his dad lived. (He wouldn’t drive across Texas with an illegally converted Uzi.)
However, hat may have been because he was kind of sweet on me…maybe you should ask your FEMALE Israeli friends if you can play with their Uzis.
Oh there are plenty of female uzis for me to hold, I don’t limit myself to just the jewish ones
Max, as politely as can say this, and with good spirits. By your listed definition, especially #2 and #5, most everyone that posted here today would qualify as preaching.
Yes, I probably could work on my sentence structure, to make it better understood that I was identifying what I understand to be the requirement, and therefore part of the price. IE “pick up your cross and follow me.”
As for the others who don’t like my response to Ivan’s attacks on me, so much as “Waylon makes Jesus cry,” I clearly identified my personal beliefs. Something I’ve seen most everyone of you do. It may not be religious, as there are those who are atheist, but it’s still espousing your values. Not ANY different than me espousing mine.
I can’t apologize for those who tried to proselytize any of you. I doubt it would help anyway. But it wasn’t me. While I’m quite enthusiastic about what I believe, as are many of you, I’ve never told ANY one that they will go to hell for not following my beliefs. Or that they have to believe my way.
You keep pointing out that you’ve never told anyone they are going to hell. No one has ever accused you of that. I politely asked you to stop preaching, and instead of a simple “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to sound preachy. I was just trying to point something out” you became incredibly defensive and acted as though I was targeting you for your Christian beliefs. You even implied that I bashed Christians and was insulted by the mere mention of Jesus.
Hey, we could be lucky… maybe he’s Red 6….
Red Arrows taking off red *^# leader.
Phbltttt.
Jesus doesn’t love you.
I was going to say that but I didn’t think anyone would remember that we decided on that as his response so I went with the cgray standby.
That’s ok Janie.
I’m kinda liking the Danbla response. It has a certain je ne sais quoi to it.
I, too, admire the eloquence of Danbala’s response.
Indeed! It has that french thing DU said!
damn u, narrow-minded americans…
Putin never did any field job when he was in KGB. And 10 years before his presidential term, he was an employee of the mayor office in my city. My dad personally knew him at that time, and spoke of him as of cold, pragmatic, but reasonable and fair person. So I’m pretty sure he didn’t kill anybody. At least personally)
I’m not a big fan of his political decisions, but americans are being so paranoid, as if the cold war never ended.
I guess you just need a powerful enemy 2 keep your economy alive, and your old friend Ben Laden is just too weak for this role.
Uh, you do understand the concept of a lolsite, right? Everything that people here are saying about him is not serious.
Now if you want to find some sites that are actually paranoid about him, try the white supremacist sites. They’re xenophobic beyond belief.
Sarcasm is never appreciated in its time.
Not by you anyway.
I wouldn’t advise you fu(king with our Janie. A lot of people won’t take it well.
Well, not everything said is not serious. Some people really believe that president of my country is a KGB assassin. On one side it is funny as hell, but on the other it makes you people look like idiots…
1. Learn about the reply button before continuing (or at least before calling other people idiots).
2. It’s not funny as hell on one side, it’s funny as hell on ALL sides because you are on a HUMOR site.
Yes, and there are people who believe Chuck Barris was an assassin for the CIA.
Yeah…and…?
Well, he *does* claim it to be true, and the CIA doesn’t deny it, do they?
We can neither confirm nor deny that statement.
white supremacist sites
I’d like to see one!
You really wouldn’t. Honestly. Unless you’re a total whacko, you’d probably think that your retinas were scarred for life.
Next time, change your email, Teacher idiot.
what for? I’m still invisible
Oh how we wish you were. Silent would also be a good option. I suggest you try it for a while.
Good form sir.
Well spoken, Bruce!
Damn that identity stealing assassin!
Clever and trixsy they are.
We hatesssss them.
*offers Brack a shiny gold ring she found the other day on the ground* Here, this’ll make it all better.
*takes ring*
Yoooo can’t seeeeee meeeeeeeeeeee….
Because once you introduce yourself as a sock, you will never be taken seriously.
Though, if you don’t want to be taken seriously, go ahead and keep socking. I don’t really care, just some advice.
Oh my darling Charro, I didn’t take them seriously before that.
Though, it was possible that someday in the future, you might have considered thinking about maybe taking them seriously.
Now, you never will.
Ah, the hilariously bad trolls still slide in on paws covered in their own self-righteous bull like puppies?
A quick word, Ioannes- generalizing never works. It’s a completely ineffective method. In fact, you fit your own description here. “Their need to feed their liberal egos knows no bounds.” The same could be said for you- why else are you ranting here, whilst instead you could be living your life like a happy, normal human being who doesn’t need to insult multitudes of people in the absolute certainty that he is correct?
And also- both parties are bull. Everything in politics is pointless prattle from people who can’t predict the future, but instead act like the money they receive is a symbol of righteousness and hope people who agree with a few of their viewpoints follow them only to be led astray. I, for one, could have cared less about Scott Brown.
And hi, folks! Just passing through for a comment or two!
So, you did care then.
Well put, Igor, but I don’t think Ioannes actually reads our comments. We prefer telling the self-righteous anti-christian that Jesus doesn’t love him.
This was a little bit more than just politics, this was a seat that BELONGED to the Dems for generations. At least that’s what the politicians and pundits thought. But this election made it clear, sent a message to Washington and gave me new hope as well. The people do have a say in what happens in Washington. I have to admit I lost a little of my cynicism because of the outcome.
Well the people of Mass really came out and voted for their values. Scott Brown’s beliefs are very much in line with the voters of Mass.
We will see, it will be very interesting to see how things go with a Republican in that seat.
I think that means that when they talk about the reps. from Mass, there’ll be an “R” in there instead of a “D”.
Phbltttttt.
Phblttttt.
Aww it’s funny cause it’s true
Phbltttttt.
Phbltttttt.
red fox standing by
Already taken. And foxxier!
Phbltttttt.
Phbltttt. Phblttt.
Phblttttt.
LULZ. A+ for creativity. F for knowing your audience.
FIRST BOOK OF GOVERNMENT ….PSALM 2004
Bush is the shepherd we did not want.
He leadeth me beside the polluting factories.
He restoreth my faith in the Democratic party.
He guideth me in the path of the noo-cular bombs for profit’s sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the unnecessary war declarations, I shall fear no enemy, for his warmongering destroys both friends and enemies.
He has anointed my school system with defecits,
The illiterates released into the work force runneth over.
Surely, poverty and hard living will follow those unpriveleged all their lives, And they will live in filthy hovels with no health care forever.
I am glad I am American,
I am glad that I am free.
But I wish I was a dog …
Oh wait! A Bush IS a tree!
Phbltttttttttttt.
And can I just add…
Phblttttttttttt.
Phblttt. And Jesus doesn’t love you. And he was a liberal.
No he wasn’t.
I agree, Jesus was not a liberal. If he was he would have said after he healed someone “Party on dude!” and “Here’s a condom, be safe.” or “If it feels good, do it.”. But, he said “Go, and sin no more”. Like JAC said above, Jesus made clear the connection between sin and sickness and death. Whether you believe in him or not.
Just for the record, hippie =/= liberal.
Well, maybe you could say not all liberals are hippies, but certainly all hippies are liberal. Unless you know some conservative hippies!
They are rare, I will agree. But not non-existent!
They’re like unicorns. If you see one and tell anyone about it, they think YOU’RE high
There was a group of Christians from the 60′s that called themselves “Jesus freaks”. They wore long hair and sandals but they didn’t do drugs or have sex outside marriage. Maybe those were conservative hippies.
My mom’s cousin was one of those.
I have actually found that many young people considering themselves hippies are pretty clearly in the libertarian camp and consider voting for the likes of Ron Paul.
No, that’s hedonism, not liberalism. Liberals are far more likely to tell you “If it feels good, it’s probably really bad for you, bad for the environment, and made in a sweatshop by oppressed five year olds.”
And that should have included a
…
Ahem. I believe you left out that it tortures animals.
.. and it’s good for the economy… what?
Probably all hedonists are liberal though…
Can you back that up or is that just another retarded generalization?
Oh come on now. By its very defition hedonism is a liberal mindset. Besides, most conservatives don’t like themselves enough to be hedonists
Actually conservatives like themselves too much. The more self esteem you have, the less you will abuse yourself with hedonistic ways.
hedonism =/= abuse.
It is according to Jesus…
Yes, it is by definition. When you make self pleasure your god, and that is what it means, then you enslave yourself and your senses to the material which is decay. I’m not talking about enjoying yourself, that’s not hedonism. I’m talking about excess.
Taking pleasure from self-denial, then. I can dig it.
Ever heard of delayed gratification? It’s the bomb.
Well, that’s DEFINITELY what she said, right there…
You naughty hedonist, n10bettes
retarded? thanks…
I calls ‘em like I sees ‘em.
Rude.
You and JAC keep insulting us liberals and I’m expected to play nice? I don’t think so. And if you two can’t see why we’d be insulted by your comments then you seriously need to get off your high horse. This entire thread is making me question why I come here.
I haven’t insulted liberals at all. I have insisted that Jesus wasn’t a liberal. Big difference.
Chillax, bro, and revel in the hyperbole! It’s hilarious!
Oh come on Rando, I wasn’t trying to insult anyone, I was using sarcasm. I was only trying to layout why I don’t believe Jesus was a liberal.
NO. You were insulting every liberal on this board by your baseless broad generalizations. I don’t make jokes by insulting whole groups of people, something you seem to think is okay.
NO, I wasn’t.
That is EXACTLY what you did when you said that if Jesus were a liberal he would say “if it feels good, do it”. You did it again when you said all hedonists were probably liberal.
So are any hedonists conservative?
How the fvck are we supposed to know? We don’t know all the hedonists. Hell, I don’t know ANY.
I suppose heavy drug users could be considered hedonists. I don’t really know any personally, but a few of the ones down town have tried preaching at me. That makes them Christian at least, though I didn’t stop to ask who they voted for. Somehow I doubt they vote actually.
Giving someone a condom is just giving them a license to continue sinning according to the bible, so I don’t think Jesus would have done that, no matter what you or I think about extra marital sex…
What about marital sex? For example when one spouse is repeatedly unfaithful, but the other feels bound to the marriage. Is the faithful spouse not allowed to protect him/herself from disease? Or if the wife can’t safely have another pregnancy, and can’t use any of the other methods?
Also, I don’t think we should be educating according to one religion. I think I am pretty safe in speaking for the sex educators that I have met, in saying that those who teach sex education do NOT encourage young people to have sex outside of a committed relationship…or prematurely. And we back that up with the risks of STIs and the real discomforts and dangers of pregnancy. AND we encourage those who are waiting to continue to do so. But we also need to be aware that some will not wait, and as such, that they should all know how to be as safe as possible. If they themselves do not need this knowledge, there is a pretty good chance that their friends might.
(I am not a sex educator, but I teach college biology).
I’m not saying giving out condoms is a sin or bad, I was only saying that in response to finding someone in the sin of adultery Jesus would not give them a condom…
How much complaining would there be if you passed out Bibles with those condoms? It would be called pushing an agenda. Yet it’s not an agenda to enable children facing temptation.
(I’m not for handing out Bibles along with condoms, but you get the idea)
Sex happens despite your religion. That’s why it’s pushing an agenda. Safe sex isn’t an agenda, it should be common law in my opinion.
Yes, teenage sex happens, and there is no magic way to discern WHICH teenagers will have sex.
BTW, I have only heard of condoms being given to HS students. If one’s children haven’t learned the values one wants them to have by then, it’s too friggin’ late.
In your opinion. Yet others clearly and plainly have the opinion that sex should and can be saved for life long commitments. And distributing condoms to children encourages them to give in to temptation. It enables behavior that is not responsible.
“And distributing condoms to children encourages them to give in to temptation.”
Do you have any sources for that statement?
It can save lives.
Something wrong with that?
Danbala, I would doubt there is any evidence for that statement. The only studies I have seen show that teenagers will have sex without contraception if they have no access to it. For example, abstinence only sex ed programs actually increase the amount of unsafe sex practiced by teenagers. (That’s why our state refused to continue allowing them.)
He said “opinion.” Didn’t you read that?
No… that’s not an opinion.. Sex happens.. period. No matter your religion, sex will happen. Partnering a bible with that, will be pushing an agenda. Anything that you believe that is influenced or touched by your religion has an agenda, plain and simple. The only thing that is an opinion in my comment is that Safe Sex should be a common law.
Chillax, Max, I was talking about JAC. He qualified his post with “Yet others clearly and plainly have the opinion …”
Ah, but “And distributing condoms to children encourages them to give in to temptation” is a statement. Making claims like that is always open for questions, whether or not you talk about opinions in another part of a paragraph.
It’s another bad punctuation thing. I’m sure of it.
That wasn’t a reply directly to you ISO. I stated two things. Sex will happen despite your religion and that if you attach a bible with a condom hand out, you’re pushing an agenda.
JAC said that was “in my opinion”. The only thing that was opinion in my statement was clearly qualified as such. I was merely restating what he missed, or didn’t take away from my post.
I could go farther and say that handing out condoms does in no way enable pre marital sex. Pretty sure we’re all born with the enablers for sex…. Pretty sure…
*looks in his pants*
Yeah… sure.
D’oh. Sometimes I need a gentle reminder that I’m not the center of the universe. And the nesting gives me a confoozled! lol!
*looks down*
Oh yeah, I’m definitely enabled!!!!
Yes, we are all born with the equipment. That’s certainly not in question. When you give children condoms, and instruct them that this is the way to have safe sex, they get the idea that using condoms will prevent consequences. Which it does not.
I agree that there should be sex education, but we disagree on who should be teaching it.
I can get behind that, JAC, but my fear is that those would totally opt out of the sex-ed classes at school are the very kids whose parents’ religious misbeliefs would deter them from educating, or seeking alternate education, for their kids.
Again, JAC, do you have any proof that teaching sex ed and providing access to contraception increases sexual activity in teenagers? Or that it does ‘give them such ideas’?
When my HS class walked out of the lecture on contraception, most of them were swearing off sex forever. BEFORE the class, they thought contraception was guaranteed. WHen they learned the truth, they were shocked.
My mother got most of her ‘education’ on the streets and from the dictionary. Her mother didn’t like sex and wouldn’t talk about it. After my mother started nursing school, she did some very FAST teaching to her sister, who was dating her future husband. It is a miracle my aunt wasn’t pregnant before the wedding, because my uncle tried every excuse in the book. My conclusion is that we can’t trust parents to do their job, unfortunately. There needs to be other sources available to the young folk, preferably before the age of puberty! (Back in the dark ages when I was in school, I knew for a fact that one of my classmates was sexually active…at age 12).
Nowhere does anyone who teaches sex ed ever say that condoms take away all consequences of sex. Nowhere, even back in the early 90s when I had sex ed that was made very clear. Sex is dangerous and great at the same time. Not only that, but every advertisement for condoms has had the disclaimer that “Condoms are not a guaranteed contraceptive, even when used properly, pregnancy is still possible.” If I remember correctly, Sex Ed nearly killed my relationship with my then girlfriend. I was so scared of sex for six weeks after the course that I wouldn’t even let my girlfriend touch me down there.
Luckily, I came to my sense and got some… with a condom, and I’m not a father. I did it right
Max, dude, you did it WRONG!! Remember….. lol!
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I cant see embedded videos at work cause of the firewall…
OH GOD! I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED!
ROFL! Link….
Too…much…common…sense….
NNOOOOOEEEEESSSSSS!!!!1!!1!!!111!!!!!!!!!
This was @max.
Stupid nesting
Why can’t we have both programs in schools and allow the parents to choose which their child attends? One class period of abstinence only, one with the banana rubber demo. Better yet, why can’t we have peer mentoring programs in schools where the upperclassmen talk to the underclassmen about these topics, so they’re really getting the truth? Seems like such an easy fix to me — offer both, allow choice, everyone’s happy, no-one’s preggers (j/k on that)
Children who are taught ‘abstinence only’ are not less likely to have sex, but are more likely to have unsafe sex when they do have sex. So those programs are actually detrimental.
BTW, parents are (at least here) given the option of not having their children in the contraception portion of the classes.
But it’s a parent’s right to opt their kid out of it altogether, and I’m of the opinion that some is better than none. I got abstinence-only, and sought out the rest of it from an older friend who taught me to put and a bunch of other kids from the abstinance class how to put on a condom. Parent happy, naive kid educated. Win-win.
Indeed, any sexual education class nationwide that includes contraceptive talk is accompanied with a permission slip to be signed by the parent, which details everything that will be covered in the course. If a parent says their child got safe sex ed from any school in the US within the last 3(I think?) years, then they signed the permission slip saying they could.
In my opinion, (And I like being able to use that word around you ISO
), any parent that doesn’t want their children to have any kind of sex ed needs to be certified to teach the course themselves. Because there are certain scientific facts that teenagers need to know about sex before they head out into the world, and I know for a fact just because you’re a parent doesn’t mean you know everything about sex. Hell in some cases, the fact that said person is a parent is proof they have no right to teach sex ed 
Ask anyone who has done unplanned pregnancy counseling: the level of ignorance amongst ADULTS is staggering. In fact, it’s one of the primary reasons sex ed is now taught in schools.
“I didn’t know I could get pregnant…
-the first time
-during my period
-if I was nursing
-if we did it doggie style”
And the last IS a real statement. The list is friggin’ endless. Oh, and don’t forget that green M&Ms are aphrodisiacs.
That’s a good one (actually, it’s a sad one, but you know what I mean).
Douching after intercourse actually slightly increases your chances of getting pregnant (almost statistically insignificantly). THAT was one of the many misconceptions my mom’s outreach workers had to dispel when teaching sex ed. I believe douching with Coke was the popular belief in the 70s.
Have a Coke…. and a smile
VG, my mom never personally encountered that, but it has been documented. Very, very rare, but possible.
I’m pretty sure that you have no fvcking idea what Jesus would or would not do, just like the rest of us.
Please note that I didn’t say he was a conservative either.
Yes, because all liberals are immoral heathens. WTFever. And “Party on dude?” Seriously? You think all liberals are from Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure? I don’t think Jesus would find much to like in the conservative mindset.
I was just trying to make a point by using loaded language Rando, exaggeration, sarcasm… You do it all the time.
Hyperbole…
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Not that!!
I’d rather DIE than enter that hyberbolic chamber!!1ELEBENTIES!!!
You were making a point at the expense of every single person here who calls themselves a liberal. For the record, if I don’t accept the “yeah but he did it too” excuse from my first graders, an adult has no business using it.
Okay, so who stops doing it first, then? B/c from what I can see, threre’s a fat, sloppy, industrial-width brush being applied from both sides all over this website. Just saying.
*and THERE’S one being applied, too. lol
Still acting like a child? “I’m not going to stop until they stop.” Grow up. First of all, I wasn’t talking to you I was talking to n10bettes about a specific comment they said that was insulting to all the liberals here. Second of all, you have a problem with what someone has said you take it up with them, don’t hide in a two wrongs make a right mentality. I have NOT made a statement either in word or implication that implies that all conservatives say or believe a certain thing and it is NOT right for n10bettes to do so about liberals.
Wow. That was necessary, and EXACTLY what I said.
What was unnecessary was insulting an entire group of people who did nothing to you just to make a point. But I guess someone who was moderated for racist comments wouldn’t see that.
Never happened, but think what you will. If I made a racist comment, I’d have been banned. But whatev.
The baseless, generalizing, hyperbolic finger-pointing goes both ways here. Pretending you’re wounded by a singular comment is really kind of funny.
You don’t get to tell me what does or doesn’t offend me, only I get to do that.
I don’t think it’s so much a singular comment, so much as that, this crap happens all time. Not from the same person mind you, but there’s always someone who comes in and says the same shiat that’s been said before, and you have to admit, after about the 12th time of having to mop up a frothy mess you lose interest in being civil, especially when Troll Number Umpteen clearly had no regard for civility.
That’s my two cents, and I will make this correction for Janie, ISO so far hasn’t been moderated. And from what I can tell, he spins on the hyperbole and never introduces it himself.
While I can backhandedly tell him to grow some balls and tell us what he really thinks (Heavy wink at ISO here), I will say I have yet to see him say something, that in retrospect, he seems to truly believe.
However, Jane, you are very understandably upset with what other have said earlier and I agree. Generalizations hurt everyone, because, at it’s core, that’s why Politics is so farked up, we’re trying to color in the lines, when our brush is about 4 times too large.
No, ISO, making racist comments gets you moderated. I think you have to be either a repeat offender or say something so bad that racism sounds pleasant to get banned. cgray & Ioannes are still around, so banning isn’t automatic. Just admit you screwed up. It might win you a few brownie points. Otherwise, not a one of us is gonna cut you any slack.
If we can’t generalize to some extent then why do we even have classifications like liberal and conservative? And if they don’t really exist why get so upset?
No, Max, I totally posted three links that got moderated. All were offensive, but I believe in being aware of what both sides are saying. And I’ll gladly keep my own counsel as to where I land on the spectrum for awhile, Max
And Jane. I’m sorry I offended you. But c’mon.
Rando, I maintain I said nothing racist, because I didn’t. Ask the admins. I posted links to three objectionable websites, including Obama Dolls, Chimpie Bush, and Daughter-Pimpin Brown. Didn’t know people would rather remain in the dark than see what crap’s being bandied about in the deep, dark cesspool that is the internets.
And n10 I think the point is.. if we can’t generalize, then we’re forced to view everyone as they should be viewed… as an individual. Generalizations like “People like you/People who think like you/People who act like you.”
are acceptable, as you’re creating the qualifying term as opposed to applying it.
“Generalizations like “People like you/People who think like you/People who act like you.”
are acceptable, as you’re creating the qualifying term as opposed to applying it.”
Yeah, that’s exactly what people like you would say.
… would be an example of a bad way to use it. imo. I think I understand what you mean though.
What I was trying to say Danbala is that if you must infer something bad, do it by using the trait you don’t like and including people who have that trait. It’s a whole lot different than just applying that trait to a group because of a stereotype.
@Max:
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Ah yes, then I did get the gist, and agree.
(I just react negatively every time I see “people like you”-phrases, because they tend to be solely based on stereotypes rather than being related to any form of factual arguments – in other words the “people like you”-expressions are, in my experience, often the opposite of what you described. But this was just a silly little picky language sidenote.
Those Swedes — always picking on other people’s use of language!
That was irresistible! *runs away giggling*
*runs back and hugs Danbala* Luvs my Swedish internet buddy!
Ooops. Sorry for the double post! My bad!
Nesting fail. Are there gremlins in teh intertubes?
Why are you so pissed? I never said ALL liberals where anything. I was trying to lay out an argument why I don’t believe Christ was liberal. If you and Rando find that offensive then there’s nothing I can do about it, it’s an opinion.
Well when people say you’ve offended them… apologizing usually helps. Something that I have yet to see happen in this thread. No one’s said “I’m sorry that I offended you.” after any opinion they’ve spouted. I think that’s what has people upset.
I don’t want to attack anyone, and I don’t believe I ever have. I think you are exaggerating and overreacting. I never painted ALL liberals as anything.
Did you even READ your posts? Jane nailed it so hard we’re gonna have to call her Hammer Time.
By saying “If Jesus was a liberal he would…” You were very specifically painting a large group of people a certain way.
Whether you meant to or not does nothing to overshadow the fact that people were offended. None of us can ever fully expect how our words will be taken, the only thing any of us can do is say them, and if they offend, apologize (and mean it). And I’m not singling you out n10, I think we could all stand to be a little bit more humble, myself included.
Or maybe butt-hurt time would be better.
Says you, Max. I’m perfectly awesome the way I am.
Jane, love, I believe the phrase you are looking for is “I don’t care who started it, I’m going to finish it!”
That’s what I’m asking. Who’s gonna do that? Someone needs to step in and blast the hell out of the brush with a scalding hot high-pressure washer!
*raises hand* Trying! Jeez…
And you’re doing a bang-up job of it, Max. I salute you. While the arguing is actually kind of entertaining, I’d be refreshing if those posting here could actually avoid being merely a microcosm of the all-pervasive bickering and freakery that is society as a whole.
In all honesty, this is a new thing I’ve been trying. I usually dive into the hyperbole orgy and run with it.. but since we have this gigantic clusterf*ck pop up on a PUTIN LOL FOR GOD’S SAKE, then I’d say something had to be done.
Not to mention… all the bickering gets old.. like… really old… like… McCain old.
And dumb… like…. Bush Dumb..
And obtuse… like… Obama’s ears obtuse.
John McCain is so old he taught Adam to garden.
Funny, and on-topic! lol!!
Obama’s ears are so big he heard the sun come up this morning
And Sarah Palin is so dumb she makes George Bush look smart……
I would say Sarah Palin makes David Duke look like a progressive
And if that offended anyone… I’m sorry….. that Palin’s so ass backwards.
Ass backwards is just how we like Sarah. Bow-chicka-bow-wow!
*gets beaten to death for horribly sexist joke*
I think he was. At least he sure wasn’t a conservative. Tell me what conservative values that Jesus held.
Well, for one, he required obedience. He made it plain that those who didn’t obey his word were not believers. He still loved them, but he didn’t make excuses for them. He told it like it was.
I said conservative values.
I don’t see that as a liberal value. And he always told them to go forth and sin no more. Not go forth and make excuses why they couldn’t quit.
I see it as a liberal value, but conservatives are so hellbent on making us liberals into immoral heathens out to destroy the noble conservatives that they refuse to see it. You know, you always claim not to be conservative or Republican or whatever, but you sure act like it. Ivan was right about you.
Maybe you are a conservative? lol!
I tried that once. I didn’t like it. I’d rather die than go back.
Come on now. That’s like saying all liberals are out to make ALL Christians look like WBCrazies. Generalizing like that makes the baby Jesus weep
I’ve said time and again that I share values on both sides, and I’ve also said in this thread that Jesus wasn’t a conservative.
Seems to me that you are hellbent on painting conservatives as just selfrighteous do gooders that want to rule the world.
Ivan’s a liberaltroll that gets away with it because he’s been here long enough to chit chat with the ladies.
I think Ivan is like me, and has gotten seriously sick of the conservative takeover around here. You can’t express a liberal opinion without getting flamed to hell. This thread being an excellent example.
Expressing an alternate opinion is not flaming. You should be able to withstand it if you are secure in what you believe.
Translation… If there are enough opinions to shut down anyone who doesn’t agree with me, I like it. If there are opposing opinions, I’m going to take my ball and go home.
Well of course I like it better if there are more people with my viewpoint. DUH. And the fact that you guys don’t get how much you’re insulting liberals just proves that you’re clueless.
Do you ever give any consideration to how much you insult conservatives?
Yet you think nothing about insulting conservatives or those who don’t tote your idea of liberalism. Is that one of those liberal values you keep bragging about? Before you call anyone clueless, you need to look at the double standard you keep flinging about.
This used to be a mostly liberal site. Now we’ve been inundated with conservatives, and every liberal comment is instantly flamed. We got nasty when you people came in here guns blazing. It’s called fighting back. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.
Now, keep posting, because you KNOW you’re right and everyone else is wrong, and you MUST have the last word. Oh, and don’t forget to twist my words around and try to make yourself look superior. You excel at that!
For someone who keeps crying about the last word, you sure seem to make sure that you have it. Or decry those who do.
And It’s so funny that you espouse those great liberal ideas of being open minded, so long as it’s a liberal open mind.
You call it fighting back when you bash people that don’t agree with you, but complain when people who don’t agree with you speak up, much less bash. It seems to me that you act just like a spoiled brat, “play my way, or we can’t play at all.”
And if anything makes you look inferior, it’s the whole “this used to be a liberal site where no one challenged my way of thinking.” type of comments.
JAC, I have never once seen you let an argument go without having the last word. And you will drag an argument out forever too. As for how much I insult conservatives, it’s usually collateral damage. And even then I try to avoid gross generalizations because I know not all conservatives are the same. Also, if you get me riled up, then I’m gonna unleash. I am passionate about my views, and I don’t apologize for that. Want to call me a hypocrite? Have fun, I don’t give a crap what you think anyway.
You ALWAYS insult conservatives Rando, ALWAYS. You say some of the nastiest things and I have never once seen Jane come flying out of the face book page to slap you, no one ever does. This is supposed to be a LOL page, a funny funny LOL page. I laugh at the things YOU say about conservatives. I have a sense of humor.
Nobody ever does? Sweeeeet. I AM ABOVE THE LAW!!!!! But anyway, my posting style is frequently hyperbolic, frantic, and over the top. Yours isn’t. And I hope by now that most of the regulars who have been around for a while know when I’m joking and when I’m not. Yes, occasionally I let emotion get the best of me and I’ll snap, but it’s not that often and BELIEVE ME, I hold back. Oh, do I hold back. I play nice so I don’t end up a troll. Yes, this is playing nice. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.
And I may rip conservatives’ values or platforms, but usually not them as people. Hell, I defended you against that liberatroll who kept calling you stupid.
In the name of fairness I will say, that I have seen Rando fly off the handle on liberatrolls as well as conservatrolls.
But n10 does have a point, he/she was merely making a statement based upon a generalization of liberal ideology.
Now, if we are to hold n10 to that standard, then we may only attack conservative views on an individual basis.
At worst we can use the dreaded “people like you”, but if n10 can’t lay down a generalization of liberals, then we can’t allow ourselves to do the same of conservatives.
Yea, I remember that, that was nice. And my posting style is over the top too!! I’m wild I tell you, I run with scissors!! Dammit.
Dang it Max, how did you get int here so fast… I’m slow as molasses…
LOL n10.
*takes N10′s scissors away and puts her in a time out* You’ll put an eye out if you keep that up.
Well n10 I’m just here trying to defuse everything. We can all be friends dammit!
*punches a bad guy in the face*
I’m Batman….
*Jumps out the window*
*looks out window* Oh, dear. Batman? You okay? He always forgets he can’t fly. *shakes head*
It’s ok… Waynecorp is a government contractor… we’ve got full coverage…
*wink*
Ow, I’m not a bad guy! She was running with scissors and I put her in time out! I was trying to be a responsible parent! *puts ice on her black eye*
I punched a bad guy DU! You’re not a guy… nor are you bad!
If you didn’t punch me, why do I have a black eye?
Well, I will continue to make both sides feel bad about it, and then make Martinis!
mmmmmmmm, Martinis… Hey! My scissors are gone!!
*guzzles a few Martinis* Hic. Schissorsh? I don’t shee any shcissorsh. *waves scissors about* You shouldn’t run with schissorsh! I haven’t seen them! I have to go vote!
Gee Rando, I loves you man. But every time I come back, you’ve made just as many comments as I have. Seems to me that you keep griping me out for the same things you are doing. I just don’t understand.
JAC
I usually want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but that last statement was just insulting. How is making excuses a “liberal value”? I’ve been with and known plenty of conservatives who made excuse after excuse on why they do something wrong and why they thought they were right.
Not making excuses is NOT a conservative OR liberal value. It’s a sign of maturity in an adult. By extention, you’re saying being a liberal is basically a mental handicap. I’ve heard the line “left wingism is mentally retarded” before. I thought you were better than that my man.
JAC claims he “shares values from both sides”, but;
A) He constantly bashes liberals.
B) He gets upset when Jesus is referred to as a liberal.
C) He ONLY attacks conservatives when it’s someone who doesn’t share his exact religious views.
D) Every statement he makes is decidedly conservative.
E) He has YET to display a liberal value.
More lies from the king of lies.
A) I don’t bash liberals.
B) I plainly said that Jesus was neither liberal nor conservative
C) Being as you don’t have a clue what my values actually are, how would you know?
D) Really? I didn’t think conservatives were against capital punishment. I also don’t think they support antismoking laws. (I do, on the local level)
E) If you are the prime example of a liberal, then I don’t want too. Funny how you never notice any of the good points about me. That’s all the diversity and compassion showing in you?
And ironically, why would I attack someone that shares the same views as myself? I don’t see you doing that.
I think you simply have mental issues, and a lust for attacking me. It’s a shame, really.
Ivan, Ivan, let it go. We all know the truth. That’s what is important.
You’re right, brother. Thanks for talking me down from the ledge. LOL
Rando’s got blisters on his fingers!!!! LOL!
I’ve got blisters on my fingers? Helter Skelter?
Thank you on behalf of myself and the band, and I hope we passed the audition.
Haven’t you seen “Yes Man?” lol!
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Ivan, you are so obsessed with mention sexual things around me. That can’t be healthy for you dude. You need to see someone about that.
And I noticed you didn’t dispute a thing, just ranted more name calling.
I’m far from a perfect human being, and I’ve never claimed to be one. Hey, I make mistakes from time to time, just like every human being on this earth.
When you have something real, let me know. Until then, keep up with the spittle, and be sure to accuse me of ranting while you do your little rants. You and your little ego started all this. Your God like image where you didn’t like what I said to Paul. Never mind that you are as much, or more opinionated that I am.
I just did, he was against sin. That is a conservative value that there is sin and it deserves punishment. He said “Go and sin no more”, that was a command, not a suggestion. Yes, there is forgiveness but that goes with repentance only, and if you keep on sinning odds are you aren’t repentant.
And we liberals loooooooove to spread evil. That’s wonderful. Are there any other liberal Christians on here who will back me up here? Because the conservatives are acting like I just called Jesus a fvcktard or something, and they’re starting to piss me off.
I wouldn’t consider myself a Christian, being agnostic. But I have very devout Christian friends. Some of them are conservative and mostly vote Republican. Some of them are die-hard liberals. To the best of my knowledge, all of them waited for sex until they met their spouse (I’m not asking if they waited until the actual wedding service, because that would be prying). But I know they are not casual about sex.
And all of them have said to me at one time or other that they want their children to have FULL sex education, and access to condoms if need be.
Or you are weak willed, or you’re human. As I understand everyone sins no matter what, it’s just a question of to what degree and how sorry you are about it.
That’s true, we do sin but we are supposed to resist it not to encourage it. That’s the point… With the help of the Holy Spirit we are supposed to resist temptation and sin.
Yeah.. well us liberals do it because we want to, and we don’t have any shiny afterlife to persuade us. So.. if you resist it with the help of the Holy Spirit, and the rest of us do it on our own.. why do you Christians come down on us non Christians like we need a crutch?
I’m not flaming here… I’m asking a question… as a Jew who has been specifically targeted for conversion, in public… at school, at work… Everywhere…
You tell me… tell me why you’re such much better because your have someone helping you be good… meanwhile I seem to be doing it out of the goodness of my heart, with no incentive present?
I know this is a bit of thread de-rail but I don’t care right now. With all this religious hooplah I want to know the answer to my questions…. what makes you so god-dammed special?!
Where did I ever say I was special?
So… you don’t have an answer then?
I guess not… Not sure what you are asking, I’m not special at all.
Part of Christianity, namely the Gospel, charges Christians with going out to recruit among the masses.
Most of the time this isn’t a big deal.
But when I say, “No thanks, I’m jewish.” the correct response is, “Shalom Chaverim” and move on.
And I can anecdotally say that this is never what happens.
The response is always “Well you’re just the kind of people we need to talk to!” or “Well you Jews need to learn the truth of Jesus Christ more than anyone!”
What I am asking is… what gives Christians the balls to come up to someone who’s religion predates theirs, and tell them that it’s wrong. And what’s worse, why do they get offended when I tell them that if they don’t leave me alone I’m going to show them just how easy some random guy can get martyred by being stuck to a cross.
Apparently it’s ok for them to insult my religion by saying it’s “wrong” or “lying to me”, yet I’m going to hell for making a joke about a ceremony used by the Romans for centuries to kill people. Really nice.
Paraphrasing, I wasn’t attacking you n10… merely asking for some insight into the mind of these hypocrites.
Hmm, they sound like idiots… They’re everywhere!
Indeed, now I’d like the idiots to defend their views.. But it seems like they’re only everywhere they don’t have to use their own thinking process to make a response.
So until they arrive… want a Toaster Strudel?
So… let me get this straight n10bettes. You would think it is unfair that as a christian you might be judged by the actions of the christians who harassed Max yet you think it’s completely okay to “make a point” by implying that all liberals are hedonistic sinners?
Max, you’ve put your finger on my personal objection to christianity…the insufferable arrogance.
Brak, that’s not Christianity; that’s just some Christians. My favorite bumper sticker lately is: When the rapture comes, can I have your car? WHen I told my Southern Baptist friend, he laughed, then said that he thought the original (When the rapture comes, this car will be driverless) was unbelievably arrogant. He’s a good Christian.
@Jane: Easy dear, forgive them… they know not what they do…
*snerks because he couldn’t help himself*
@Brak: I have problem with any religion that has a gospel. Christianity, Islam. Going out and telling people they’re doing it wrong and earnestly meaning it treads on my patience.
If their religion was so awesome and truly the right way to go, the actions of the followers would clearly outweigh any preaching, or evangelicalism.
Max, please remove your finger from my arrogance. It tickles, and makes me feel kind of icky….
Your arrogance? So that’s what the kids are calling it these days…
*points at Max*
‘Ey…I like dis guy. He tawks good! The only thing evangelism says to me is that the message is not strong enough to carry itself without hawking it like a sideshow barker. It shouldn’t need to be a circus. I admit, the message at it’s core is good. It just too often gets lost in the claptrap and the mountebanks.
Bah! You’re just saying that because you’re Jewish and get to go to heaven when you die no matter what you do!
Stupid Gods chosen people, getting all the good afterlives for free…
Yeah, Maxwell, I’m feeling you on being a target for unwanted conversion. Try telling one of them you are an atheist sometime.
My brother’s atheist(we’re jewish by blood). He says he admires me for not following up with my crucifixion threat.
I’m devaluing your frustration, but having a belief and then being told it’s wrong seems more arrogant and rude than telling someone who doesn’t believe anything.
But like I said, its frustrating and wrong either way.
I think Jews have it worse actually, they get told that they are almost there, if they could only admit they were wrong about killing Jesus. I think it was Ann Coulter who said something like the Jews “Just need to be perfected.” meaning, they just need to accept Jesus and then they’ll be good.
A good Jewish friend of mine once came over all pissed off because his ‘very good’ friend told him that if ‘you Jews would just accept Jesus as the Messiah, then that would solve everything.’ (I think I may have told you all that before?)
You have Mabs… and let me tell you, that gets old(being told what your friend was told, not your story
).
My big thing is… would it kill the Christians to just say “Thanks!” since we made it possible for them to go to heaven? I mean jeez… talk about ungrateful…
Yes, you did, but it’s still topical.
Not even a grandma, and I’m repeating myself. *sigh*
Yeah, it pisses me off enough when people tell my Jewish friends that! I think that will be my new response: Leave her/him alone. They made it possible for you to get to heaven!
One that gets used on me is “you jews need to get with the times by adopting the New Testament”
Urge to kill… rising
Wow, I have never heard that said about Jews from any Christians I know. But, I don’t know too many of them… I would think they would love Jews especially knowing Jesus was a Jew…
Oh, but there was that drunken rant by Mel Gibson, what was THAT all about?
Mel Gibson is dumb and drunk… that’s what that was all about.
And n10 might I just point out. Ive lived 25+ as a jew. So in 25 years there’s 9125 days. I can think of about 10-15 instances of when I’ve encountered antisemitism or “religious persecution” or whatever you want to call it.
That’s less than 1% of my entire life. I highly doubt you’d see much unless you lived with or around jews daily
But, N10, Max is right. You wouldn’t experience antisemitism unless you’re Jewish or around Jews a lot. I never realized a couple of women I knew were racist until I met them to go swimming and brought my black swimming buddy. I swear their jaws almost hit the floor. One of THE most mortifying incidents in my life.
And many churches STILL preach about how the Jews are all going to hell for killing Jesus. My mom was raised Catholic and was told that Jews sacrificed babies…seriously.
Well… there was this one guy named Abraham… but he was told to!
See, there you go, using God as an excuse for everything.
I have a cousin who wears a gold pendent of the Cross superimposed over the Star of David. She says it is because you can’t have the old testament without the new. She also divorced her very sweet husband after many years because, quote, ‘He wasn’t Christian enough’. I confess that I tend to avoid her.
I have a cousin who wears a gold pendent of the Cross superimposed over the Star of David. She says it is because you can’t have the old testament without the new. She also divorced her very sweet husband after many years because, quote, ‘He wasn’t Christian enough’. I confess that I tend to avoid her now.
Sorry about the double-post, take 2!
Have you been hanging out with Nucky today?
*hic* Who me? Nesh–ver!
Do not cling to good,
Do not reject evil!
Purity and defilement–
If you depend on neither,
You will grasp the empty nature of sin.
–Ma-tsu
I’m against sin too. Define sin.
I’ve heard that the definition of sin, from the Hebrew, means missing the mark. So, it’s falling short of perfection.
“That is a conservative value that there is sin and it deserves punishment. ” How do you figure that? Most of my liberal friends are devout Christians and hence believe in this concept.
Well, your liberal friends probably have some conservative values, it happens. Liberals will generally place tolerance above rules and conservatives the opposite. There is a broad spectrum of beliefs from one end to the other and I bet a lot of people fall somewhere in between.
It seems to me as if you’re picking the values you personally like and saying they’re conservative. Which seems like what most of us do, in all matters, so I’m not meaning it as a personal attack in any way. It’s just human nature.
Personally, I would say that the idea that sin deserves punishment is either a societal value (if you mean punishment by the secular authorities) or a religious value (if you mean punishment by religious means, eg, hell). So it doesn’t fit in either ‘camp.’
Well, if you look up the definition of liberal, tolerance is in there and the definition of conservative includes favoring traditional customs and traditions (which I interpret as rules…) So, I do believe the value of adherence to defined rules as a conservative trait. Not that I necessarily like that trait or anything, heck I don’t like rules very much…
Yeah.. but tolerance:
1. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own; freedom from bigotry.
2. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one’s own.
3. interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one’s own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint.
4. the act or capacity of enduring; endurance: My tolerance of noise is limited.
None of that seems infer that tolerance = disregarding the laws.
I think we’re changing your handle to “Max the Jewish Moderator.”
I believe that would be “Max the Jewish Moiderator”
Hehehehehe.
Now you’re just being silly!
“permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own” – which doesn’t sound like strict adherence to predefined rules to me… that sounds like moral relativism which means all rules are equal and is a liberal notion.
Well after I kind blew up in front of n10 (because honestly I wasn’t directing that towards him or her, their post just happened to spark something) I feel it’s better to just sit back and try to point out where people are missing specific points.
While I can’t argue with your definition, I can say this having a permissive attitude =/= viewing all rules as the same.
And moral relativsm doesn’t mean just that all rules are the same. That’s Normative relatism. Going even further Normative Relativism merely states that there is no universal moral standard. Meaning that there’s no way to possibly agree on a set standard for morality.
That doesn’t have as much bearing on rules per say.
Well it would if your rules stemmed from morality, which most of them do to some extent.
Rules usually stem from morality in some form or another, it’s simply a matter of who’s morality.
Regardless of the effect of moral relativism on rule making, nowhere does “permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own” imply anything about said permissive attitude infer that all rules are the same. And Moral relativism doesn’t imply that either.
Yes Jesus said “Go and sin no more”, to a specific person in a specific place and time. How about just stopping with the highly selective quoting?
“The assertion that Jesus was a socialist is misguided and incorrect because the premise is grounded in the liberal ideology of American politics, not in biblical exegesis. Not one place in the bible did Jesus advocate it was the function of government to do what loving human beings ought to do on their own. As noted above, conservatives are not opposed to social programs. We shed our blood, donate our time, apply our labor, and voluntarily redistribute our income to the poor. And quite frankly, research shows we are better at it than liberals. Jesus was a conservative because he promoted charitable giving on behalf of individuals, not government. Jesus was a conservative because he promoted the hard work and success of the individual, not the legislative body of the government. Jesus was a conservative he saw giving as a ministry of the gospel, not a secular and spiritless exercise of government in order to level the economic playing field. Liberals may claim Jesus as their own, but Jesus would not claim them as his own. It takes a lot more to give from your personal resources than it does to compel others to give through taxation.” Link.
Very nice!
*headdesks*
Jesus was not a liberal in today’s sense. What he did, he did for God, not for men. In Matthew 26:7, Jesus’ disciples were angered when they saw a woman pour expensive perform on Jesus’ head. They thought it was wasteful because it could have been sold and given to the poor. Jesus responded,
“Why are you bothering this woman? She has done a beautiful thing to me. The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me.” Link.
Doesn’t this sound a bit egotistical to anyone? Just wonderin’…
*raises hand*
That reading has always bothered me. I can’t tell if Jesus is being egotistical, or he is defending the actions of a faithful follower against the attacks of some over-eager disciples. I got back and forth on that on every time I read or hear it (agnostic, after all).
The latter interpretation fits better with who I think he was or should have been? But a semi-executive-type version of the former interpretation is what seems to be more frequently presented where I can encounter it.
Does all this make you really glad you live in Sweden?
Nah… It does make me glad that when I am involved in interesting discussions like these it’s normally in RL, where it’s far easier to go “Whoah. Before we can discuss this we must agree on what the terms we are discussing actually mean”. :p
But socialist IS TOO the same as communism! *cries* You take all the fun out of my argument!
Hee hee. In America, there is no ‘h’ at the end of ‘whoa.’ Perhaps in Soviet Russia…
Makes me glad I’m jewish instead of christian.
G-d isn’t conservative or liberal because he created both political concepts. I look at these flame wars between conservatrolls and libertrolls and see the Tower of Babel all over again… Everyones shouting at each other and not understanding each other while America crumbles.
Its quite entertaining really as long as you don’t live in the US, then its majorly harmful
So in other words, god booby trapped us.
Gee…thanks, Pal-in-the-Sky.
I’m convinced He/She has a majorly twisted sense of humour
And nothing wrong with boobies
Wow. You know, every single time I read “Jesus was a conservative,” I threw up in my mouth a little.
I guess I don’t understand why you’d feel that way. I don’t care either way. He obviously had values ranging the spectrum, and that’s just all right with me
Exactly what church.. and state, should be separate. The whole Jesus was such-and-such is a moot point anyways. Jesus isn’t a politician. And religion is not a political system. End O Story.
Exactly why* church
Well, the whole argument started out with the statement
“Jesus is a liberal”.
It is, I was merely closing off with “Does it matter?” Hehe. Cause it really doesn’t.
Which, by the way, was a joke meant to annoy Ioannes.
EXACTLY. The whole thing was originally a dig at Ioannes, and a couple people got butthurt, and Ioannes would have LOVED what happened next. The entire thread is an epic fail.
I respect your Opinion Rando… but you’re wrong. The thread was epic fail… yet I remember myself Epically Winning many… many times
Well of course you epically winned (er, uh, yeah) several times. You’re MAX.
And the source for this load of biased manure is…………oh my…certainly not some conservative rant site! Oh, wait….
You want I should like a similar “Jesus is a liberal!!!111!!” rant site? It’s only a Googlesearch away, amigo…
It’s an opinion, ahem…OPINION…on a nut case site. No matter how hard you wish it, that does not make it so…any more than your belief in any particular mythology makes it so. Nobody KNOWS the Answer, my friend. Nobody. All we have are opinions and mythologies…and all we do is fight over them. Way to go, eh?
nut case site = opinion…
Touche.
But my point still stands, yes?
Well you do have a point, but the fact is we were arguing over whether we think Jesus, whether you believe he exists or not, is a liberal. So, opinions are all we have in this argument, many based on the only text we have which is the bible…
…which, of course, is no more reliable than any other text handed down orally for centuries before it was ever written down by men with agendas. Nobody truly has any clue what this Jesus guy was all about, simply because his word has been passed down by flawed, imperfect human beings, all with axes to grind and agendas to push. Can you honestly believe there have not been, let’s say, alterations to what he actually said over the many years and many hands it has been in? Start a rumor in your workplace and see how it evolves by the time it gets back to you. Now multiply that by two millennia and an entire world. Human nature will do that.
I suspect Jesus (if, indeed he is as portrayed) is not thrilled by the way his words have been mauled by human nature and turned into something he may never have intended and the way some folks use them as a club to bash others with whom they disagree.
Well, I have heard that argument, but the fact is those words were written down by people who believed he was GOD. They also had visions from super naturals that told them that if they added or subtracted from the book it would be very very bad for them. These were not like people of this day, they didn’t have the education we have or the technological society and they pretty much ALL believed in God. So, I don’t think it was much changed from the original. I do believe there are ancient texts we can compare them with as well. But, I get your point. But we can’t determine if he was liberal OR conservative if we don’t look at the bible and that wouldn’t be any fun!
Key word…PEOPLE.
There are people who believe in tin foil helmets and the WBC. Belief does not equal fact, especially 4 or 5 thousand years down the road. We are a notoriously unreliable breed and our words are not to be trusted, eh? These people who handed down the bible mythology (and I don’t really mean that word in a disparaging way) were just barely out of the prehistoric age and yet their words are taken by some as infallible fact. Isn’t this just a little bit, um…preposterous? My opinion, heh
People yes, but people’s all we got when we go back that far!
In any of our historical documents. I do believe there are other historical documents that corroborate what is in the bible. As far as history goes, it’s pretty reliable. And opinions are fine as long as no one is forcing there’s on anyone else. I think we can agree on that.
Most of those ancient texts correlate with Islam and Judaism, because they’re more solid in history than Christianity was.
There is a correlation with the New Testament as well and Roman texts, including documentation by the Roman Josephus.
Like I said… “most”.
Anyways, it’s been tried to match Jesus to ancient texts, I watched a documentary on the History Channel about it. Apparently they found mention of Jesus, he was referred to a prophet of some kind and that he traveled and spread his word a lot. There was very few if any actual recounts of his works/miracles. The basic gist was that he was a good guy, who stirred the pot about classist issues and the welfare of man. But very little really proves anything.
n10, you are referring to the Testimonium Flavianum, the testimony of Flavius Josephus, which has been debunked as a forgery.
No, it hasn’t been debunked, there is controversy yes. Do you have a cite?
Yes I do, but it’s on my laptop at home. I’ll get it to you tonight.
Here ya go.
{{http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-josephus-so-called-testimonium.html}}
Now, before you go crying “that’s a blog! it don’t count!” take note that this is a posting of a person ABOUT The acknowledged authority on the life and works of Josephus, Louis H. Feldman of Yeshiva University.
I read that, still that is only an opinion. It may be a very convincing opinion to some depending on what they already believe but it is not an actual “debunking”. A debunking would be actual proof that Josephus writings were forged or tampered with.
They don’t think they’re nut cases. That’s your opinion! Neither do the ones that truly, honestly, deeply believe Jesus was a liberal and can quote scripture accordingly. Careful with the generalizations, there, Brak. Personally, I take a “live and let live” approach to the whole thing. But I DO like to be informed about what both sides are thinking, saying, and morst importantly, DOING. And if we knew all the answers, life would be BORING!!
It’s ALL opinion and yours is no better than mine or anyone else’s. The problem comes when people start believing their opinion to be the ONLY fact. There are things to be said to the positive for every opinion. The stupidity occurs when we ignore that and refuse to compromise for the good of all.
My cat knows the Answer. But she won’t tell me.
Does she know the Question? Wait, doesn’t knowing the question and the answer blink out the universe?
I think my evil bunny knew the question and wanted to tell my cat so she could destroy the world(at the very least she wanted to rape my cat, but that’s another story). Luckily for us all, my cat refused to listen.
The answer is 42.
How many roads must a man walk down?
Before he crosses the intersection of Sixth Street and Seventh Avenue?
At 4th and Drucker he turned left
At Drucker and 4th he turned right.
There he walked into a great sandstone building.
*BUMPF*
“Ow, my nose!”
Dude, seriously, STFU.
No one gives a flying fart about your religion or your politics. This is a LOL site- it’s humor. And this particular LOL is the Vladurday LOL. A rockin’ one, with a Star wars reference to boot.
Now, I’m really not sure what got you all wound up about your emaciated dead guy nailed to a tree, and I don’t care. This is a LOL site, get it? Funny captions, not sermons?
Phbltttttt. And in case you were wondering, Jesus STILL doesn’t love you.
*looks over thread* Okay, I know I wasn’t summoned but I feel summoned… *eats some bacon and looks confused for a while*
…
*reads threads*
Yep, I wasn’t summoned. *flies off*
There’s a way to summon you? How does one do that? Say your name three times? Or is it more involved than that? I won’t need a human sacrifice will I? I do have some lovely incense….
Try more bacon.
Did someone mention bacon? *sniffs*
*yummy* Definitely go with more bacon. Yeppers. More is better.
Shoot, man, I’d eat a turd if it was wrapped in bacon and appropriately camoflauged as food
I propose a religion based on bacon in all it’s wonderous forms. Who could disagree with that??
I agree, except for the pre-cooked frozen variety. IIIICK! It shall be freshly cooked to a crispy crunch! (The first commandment…)
Let there be eggs.
And toast.
And home fries.
And grits.
Forever and ever.
Bacon.
Ra-men.
(cuz Pastafarians like bacon too. Nobody gets left out.)
Take me to the church of this bacon!! I imagine it would resemble the IHOP.
*hands bettes a bacon sandwich*
Yer in, kid.
*Genuflects* *takes bacon sandwich with reverence*
I actually have a friend who has started a Church of Bacon, he is the prophet of Bacon and he has 15 pounds of it which he plans to distribute with shots of rum in order to gain converts. I think it is an excellent plan.
And on the eighth day, God made the BLT, and he saw that it was good. And the angels in heaven rejoiced, and the pigs on earth cried.
No, no, the pigs were grateful to be sacrificed to the greater taste. It’s alot like the greater good, but tastier.
*sniff* I’m not really s’posed to eat bacon cuz of the sodium and all that, so I guess I’m left out? *brightens* Can it be bacon AND cookies? Cookies have hardly ANY sodium.
And there shall be cookies and they shall be called Bacon Cookies for the sodium challenged. And it was good. And all were included.
No man. Bacon Vodka was invented for the sodium challenged!
Link.
I’ve heard of this. This sounds so incredibly disgusting that I can’t even think about it. Bacon is awesome, and vodka is awesome. But sometimes adding awesome to awesome does not equal awesome.
A positive plus a positive = a pukefestival? lol!
It’s like the Bacon Flavor Chocolate… I think it was invented by the Swedes…. Danbala… you heard of this… Bacon-Chocolate before?
No one ever claimed the laws of science made sense ISO
Of course… according to scientific law, none of us can be re-produced using the same stimuli…. therefore… none of us EXIST!!!
BA-DUM-DAAAAAAAA!
Not only do we not exist, but bumble bees can’t fly!
The bees are disappearing… And on that one, I’m actually bee-ing serious! Ayuck!
Well, maybe if people stopped telling them that science says they can’t fly they’d stop disappearing!
@Max: I have heard of bacon chocolate, and bacon ice cream and bacon beer, but know nothing about the origins of any of them.
Yay!
*hands mabs a Bacon Cookie*
Here dear…you’re in, of course.
*leaves plate*
This link is proof that the Bacon Father loves us and wants us to be happy!
It’s a sign!! Porkeleuya!!
Our bacon, who art in the fridge, tasty is thy name…
thy supplicants come, all seeking the yum….
On grill as it is in skillet.
Give us this day, a rasher on bread….
Two words. Bacon Explosion. You’ll die, but you’ll die HAPPEH!! Link.
I have seen God…
And he is pork.
Halleleuya
Trust me on this. Mouthgasms. *Homer drool*
And not that difficult to make, either!
Oh dear G-d that is delicious death by pig
Better yet: Stuffed Veal cutlets. Pound some veal like you would for schnitzel, make it nice and flat. Seperately finely dice some veal with mushrooms, truffles and foie gras. Fry mushroom and veal mixture in butter until mushrooms are tender then spoon onto flattened veal. Fold in half and seal, then coat in egg and flour. Fry in butter flipping when brown. Serve on mashed potato made with 1/3 butter, 1/3 cream and 1/3 potatoes.
*Homer drools*
*makes shopping list*
*Screeches out of driveway slinging gravel*
OMG. I’m having that for dinner. Thanks, UV!!
I used to work overnights at Jack in the Box. We would get bored, and I would experiment with the breakfast food. I called one “A Tribute to Pork” which was triple bacon, double sausage, two slices of ham, a slice of cheese, all on a croissant. It took several minutes to revive me after eating it, and required paddles.
Remind me to never eat at your house.
What if he washes his dishes reeeeeeally well
LOL, I think you need to look up at what he was proposing to eat…….
LULZ! Obviously, you aren’t as backwoodsian as me, or you wouldn’t be such a pickysissyninny… lol!
Um… yeah… what he said!
I’ll tell you what, I’m not greedy. You guys can have the turd, I’ll eat the bacon before it ever gets wrapped around the turd!
I know at least one person here who knows how to summon me. Then again, she has my yahoo info. I suppose there are more esoteric ways to summon me but I’ll be damned if anybody has ever told me. Stupid secret dragon god summoning rituals…
nawt-see. lol!
*note to self: Research secret dragon gods and summoning rituals at library tomorrow.
O.M.G. I’m not sure I’d fu(k with Ioannes, peeps. He’s got his finger on the proverbial button, if this link is to be believed! O.o
phbbbtt
By the smile he has on his face I’m guessing that Jet is armed with Nukes.
Darth Putin
I see what you did there…
saw a bumpersticker that kind of ties into the rants and spissing match above:
my god carries a big hammer, your god got nailed to a tree. any questions?
for those it offends, think, not feel; and for those who find it humorous, why?
*frothfrothfroth*
That is all.
Oh hey, here’s one;
Jesus walked into an inn, handed the innkeeper 3 nails and said “Can you put me up for the night?”
Good gods all mighty a Vladurday getting to 700 comments!?
Yeah well…um…it was only 699 till you came in!
Yeah, you missed a real piss fest!
I feel like I’m in some kind of future distopia Sci-Fi movie, I’m looking around and just thinking, “What the hell happened?”
What? *confused* Maybe it’s just too late for me….
*whispers* I think he’s saying this lol’s comments look like a post apocalyptic sci fi movie…
*sigh* Ah. Okay. Thanks. Does that mean I need more beer or less beer?
I would say more. More beer is usually a good thing.
I need something. Stupid Californians keep sending us all their storms.
I can’t remember if this is number three or number four, but it seems as if I have had migraines just about every other day. On the NWS radar it looks as if a giant blue and green amoeba is eating the city.
I think this is number four. There were three on top of each other last week. This one wasn’t so bad when it came through though. Though if it eats the city it might get worse.
The winter storm warning was announced around six. That’s a bad sign as usually we have everything closed due to snow before they say, oh, hey, by the way, there’s a storm.
Well, either they were really bored today or we only go the very edge of it. It was really mild here.
The amoeba is about 200×200 miles! It’s kind of cool; you just go to {http://radar.weather.gov/} and click on the blue dot nearest you. One of my husband’s hobbies is astrophysics, which includes weather in a weird sort of way.
Wow, not only is it going to eat your city, it’s surrounded it first and is closing in for the kill. There also appears to be a city called “Truth or Consequences” to the south of you. O.o
Yes, we call it TorC (said T or C, not ‘torque’). I believe that involved them getting paid money by the game show to rename their town. The amoeba seems to be growing also. I wonder if it will split and attack from two sides?
Maybe if you can get the whole city to play dead it will go away? And to think when it was over here it was just a little thing I wanted to keep as a pet.
Hee hee. This is a ‘city’ only by virtue of being the biggest place in the state. We roll up the sidewalks after dinner, as my father would have said.
Really? I thought it was bigger than that. Santa Fe seemed a decent size when I went there in high school for spring break.
Albuquerque is 650K; Santa Fe about 150K. Together almost half of the state. Decent for Western state cities, but before this I lived in San Diego, outside San Francisco, and in Seattle. All MUCH bigger.
This place has the feel and the mentality much more of a large town than a small city. That’s not a bad thing for the most part, just different. Although it was entertaining when I first moved here: the symphony was bankrupt and the letters to the editor asked why we needed a symphony. Every where else I’ve lived, including Austin, would never ask that. You HAVE to have a symphony. You might never go, but it’s just one of those things that ‘proper’ cities have. We actually have great museums for a small city.
I…uh…I don’t actually know how big San Diego is. I do know we have a symphony! And the conductor is named Ling! Of course I only know that because when he got the job a few years ago the city posted banners all over the place with various puns. Like “Spine Ting-Ling”. Which, probably wasn’t the best choice for advertising….
Sorry I departed without saying good night. I was consumed by a giant amoeba (or at least my internet was).
PS San Diego County is about 3.2 million; the city is about half of that. NM (all of it) hit 2 million last spring.
Что пишут не знаю, но везде в комментах америкосы всякую срань про Россию пишут……. мерзко…..
That’s what SHE said! HA!
Wait, what?
Something about writing.. Disgusting.. I don’t know.
Oh okay. In that case…That’s what SHE said!
Was that um. The one. About.. The thing.. OH! Haiti?