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Ordinal me! And make it funny or people will die!
Bill Summary: Affordable Health Care for America Act
· New regulations | New insurance industry regulations would prohibit insurers from rejecting customers based on pre-existing conditions. The regulations would also prohibit annual or lifetime caps on benefits.
· Insurance exchange | The bill would set up a new national health insurance exchange, a marketplace where individuals who do not have employer-sponsored insurance would be able to shop for plans. The exchange would also be open to small businesses, and more would be able to join each year. Companies with 25 or fewer employees would be able to join in 2013, companies with 50 or fewer employees could join in 2014, and companies with fewer than 100 employees could join by 2015.
· Public insurance option | The health insurance exchange would include a government-run public plan. Federal officials would negotiate payment rates with doctors and hospitals that accept the plan.
· Employer mandate | Employers with annual payrolls greater than $500,000 would be required to either provide health insurance for their employees, or contribute 8 percent of their payroll to a federal fund to help subsidize employees who purchase coverage through the exchange. Employers with payrolls less than $500,000 would be exempt from the mandate.
· Individual mandate | Individuals will be required to purchase health insurance, or pay a penalty fee. Some people would be eligible to apply for a hardship waiver.
· Medicaid expansion | Medicaid would be expanded to cover everyone whose income is below 150 percent of the poverty line, or about $33,000 per year for a family of four.
· Affordability subsidies | People who earn between 150 percent and 400 percent of the federal poverty level would be eligible for subsidies on a sliding scale to purchase insurance through the exchange. Those subsidies would ensure that people who make 150 percent of the poverty level would not have to pay more than 3 percent of their income in premiums, while those who make 400 percent of the poverty level could pay up to 12 percent of their income in premiums.
· Out-of-pocket expenses caps | New regulations would cap yearly out-of-pocket medical expenses for individuals at $5,000 and families at $10,000. Those who earn less than 400 percent of the poverty level would have lower caps, on a sliding scale.
· Tax surcharge | The bill would help pay for itself by imposing a 5.4 percent tax surcharge on individuals earning more than $500,000 per year and families earning more than $1 million.
· End-of-life counseling | The bill retains a controversial provision that allows Medicare to pay for voluntary end-of-life counseling.
—- Compiled from wire reports and other sources
waits for people to die…’cos it’s tasty
*realizes he should have at least looked at the date on the report and the information before cut-and-paste ordinaling*
I just remembered I have somewhere to be… I’ll be back after the foretold massive carnage has ensued
rats
The picture thingy doesn’t always take effect right away I don’t think. Clear your cache and stuff and it might work. It took like a day for me before Patrick replaced Sheldon in my avatar. LOL
I miss Sheldon
My DVR crapped out on me. I lost all my episodes of Big Bang Theory. I has a sad.
Oops, forgot to change my name back. Sorry about that.
Geez, Rando, I KNOW I have no life. No need to rub it in. *sobs quietly to self*
*headdesk*
Bad Rando!! *takes away Rando’s Girl Scout cookies and gives them to Nucky* It’s all right, Nucky. Look, cookies!
*runs by and snatches cookies*
mwahahahaha
*pulls out shotgun* Drop. The. Cookies!!!!
**looks at Rando’s shotgun and realizes it’s a cane** Ummm dude…. I think the gubberment switched your shotgun out for a less ummm bangier weapon.
*grabs Andy’s cookie hand*
*watches Andy keep running away handless*
Cookies!!
*receives text from Cpt. Wow*
**ZOMG! I have the cookies and I’m not sharing!**
*hurries to the site of the impending crash to abscond with the cookies for herself*
On another note, this one is gonna get ugly, I can tell.
It’s been a while – do we perhaps require a drive-by boobie flashing to redirect this thread?
You may need to stand by on this one.
Require? No. Want? Yes.
*flashes hairy man boobs at Rando*
*cries self to sleep*
Huh. This bill looks pretty good actually. I can live with a bit more taxation if it means I can have insurance.
I think what Andy posted was an old version. I don’t think it looks quite like that anymore. THAT bill would’ve been pretty good. I don’t think it looks like that anymore, although I don’t know exactly what it’s like now either. I’m pretty sure they dropped the public option, which is disappointing.
*sigh* there goes socialism….
Quiet, fool! They’re not supposed to know about the socialism!
You can’t hide the socialism, all your feathers smell of it to high heaven.
And the smell of equality is sweet indeed.
You’re baiting, VNV. I can tell. There’s gonna be enough shenanigans on this thread without baiting the righties.
Well, since JAC and I aren’t entertaining you any more, maybe a right/left flame war over this LOL will suffice.
I don’t think that will be hard to dig up on this one.
Maybe you and I can argue over which is worse to work for, Sears or Advance?
*deep growl* Don’t. Get. Me. Started.
I’m on the job hunt again because I can’t work in that dump any longer without going postal.
So. I. Take. It. You. Are. Kirk. In. This. Battle?
(Much sympathies, I’m fortunate enough to work in small town with a better environment)
No, Kirk would have said; “Don’t…get me started…I’m on the…job hunt again…beCAUSE…I can’t…WORK in that dump…any longer…without going…POSTAL.”
*boxes up assorted weaponry and mails to Rando*
*nods in self-satisfaction at appropriateness of mailing items with which to go postal*
More jobs here than people if you’re interested in working in the middle of the desert.
Mining companies are hiring more people again over here and some will pay you up to a quarter of a million a year just to drive the worlds biggest Tonka truck from the bottom of a mine to the top
Hell an entry level job with no previous experience starts at $85k-$125k plus superannuation (its like 401k except compulsory) and we have socialist healthcare
*moves in with Cynical Vegemite*
Hullo, roomie.
Lol mermaids don’t dry up in the desert? Now I’ve heard everything
I bet that Tonka-truck job is considered high risk, Vege
You can get hired on around here for work on an oil rig (on- or off-shore) and make some damn good money for having no skills, but you’re in danger of a nasty death if something goes wrong. You’re getting paid for the risk.
I got passed over for a promotion that I so totally deserved for someone with no managerial experience, no education, and less experience in the department. Why? The basic gist is he doesn’t like me, never has, never will. And me busting my ass to impress this guy got me nowhere, so I’m getting out. They don’t know it yet, but they WILL miss me. Plus I keep getting the creeping sensation that the store will be closing soon.
@froo the Tonka truck job isn’t really high risk (unless you think carrying 400 tons of iron ore is high risk) we have pretty strict OH&S safety laws and the mining unions are still politically powerful here.
But I guess it’s all about perspective we have much riskier jobs over here. Feel like catching salties? There are always regular vacancies in that field but at least the crocs remain well-fed
@Rando. Best wishes with the hunt. Jobs with @ssh0le bosses or co-workers are not worth keeping, in my humble opinion. And this way you would be at the new job before your soon-to-be former colleagues start hitting the wanted listings.
Good luck on your job hunt Rando.
Vege, on land I have gams.
Not too long ago an electrical box at work caught on fire. Why? Because the store is almost 60 years old and our electrical stuff is ancient. We had to evacuate, and I kept thinking that if the store burned down they wouldn’t bother rebuilding it. If anything, they’d be high fiving each other at the home office.
Of course…has he ever done anything else? He’s like a cross between a fisherman and a crazy person:
1) Bait
2) Yell
3) repeat ad nauseum
Well, I know you think so because you two are mortal enemies.
*pictures VNV & Dhoti in a brutal final battle sword fight on a rope bridge hanging precariously over a molten lava river*
Dhoti: “Only one can prevail!”
VNV: “And this time it shall be me!”
Meanwhile, a bunch of us sit in folding chairs somewhere nearby watching while drinking beer.
“This is awesome. $5 on Dhoti.”
“I’ll take that bet.”
“Mortal enemies”? Nothing so dramatic — it’s just entertaining to rattle his cage occasionally to see what happens. He has yet to learn that the only way to win is not to play.
Hey, is that movie out on Blu-Ray yet? Maybe I should send him a copy…
You have to be mortal enemies, or else that super awesome sword fight doesn’t work. C’mon, Dhoti, work with me here!
Don’t get me wrong — I’m happy to pick up a mortal enemy or two — but you need to give me someone good. (And don’t say PortlandMark: he’s a step up, but not by much.)
Here’s the thing, though — it doesn’t necessarily have to be an arch-liberal. Maybe one day I wake up, say “THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE”, and go after ILPB or something. So there’s lots of options here.
SWEET! So there’s options for sequels! I smell blockbuster franchise!
I was picturing the Kirk/Gorn stranded on the planet till one dies thing. *sigh* One can only hope.
But that means VNV has to be either Kirk or the Gorn — sorry, but I can’t allow that.
I liked my scenario better.
I am more like Sisko.
Sisko annoys me. I prefer Janeway to him, and she grates on me like nails on a chalkboard.
That’s not acceptable either — Avery Brooks is teh awesome. (I liked Sisko, especially later in wartime, but either way, you gotta give it up for Brooks.)
I’m a TNG-phile all the way. Picard totally does it for me …
So, froo, you’re saying that I’m Darmok, VNV is Jalad, and we’re at Tanagra?
I was originally freaked out by TNG, what with the android and Klingon on the crew…and Wesley. Oy.
But I should really be nicer to h-Wil h-Wheaton.
Wesley was a walking excuse for eugenics. *does the queasy shivers*
You should never be nice to h-Whill h-Wheaton. I hated that little ‘tard.
Hey now — Wil Wheaton actually turned into kind of an awesome guy. (Even if his writing career mostly consists of rehashing TNG memories…)
But Wesley, yeah, kill him in the face until he dies from it.
I didn’t care much for his mother either. Yick.
Dammit, we only got one redhead on that show — my hands are tied, woman!
Ok, you can keep her, but can we put Troi into an airlock and hit “jettison”?
I’m all for jettisoning Troi! Can I push the button? Please? They didn’t have a decent woman on TNG after they killed off Tasha Yar. Darned flighty actress!
Now I wish we could mix fandoms and make Laura Roslin responsible for the Enterprise’s airlocks.
@ Dhoti: you get 50 points for knowing about the word “inscrutable”.
Dhoti if you’re going to be Darmok & Jalad.. Then you’ll compromise and end up working together. Is that what you want? I mean, if it is that’s cool and all.. VNV might be down.
Also BSG FTW.. Seriously, stop liking the same things I do.
Troi was annoying, but at least she had big…hair. Yeah.
I didn’t like Yar. I didn’t miss her. In fact, I missed the episode where she died and didn’t realize she was gone for a while. As for Beverly Crusher, I’d take her any day over that craptastic replacement Pulaski.
And no crossovers, Dhoti! Absolutely not!
I was indifferent to Yar. I absolutely couldn’t stand Pulaski and was just grateful when she left. I…I…I…liked Wesley . Look, I was 6! He was the youngest regular member of the cast! Also, for years my favourite episode was the one where they all get turned into children. Guinan was the only one of them who knew how to enjoy her second childhood. She was awesome.
OMG Y’all are such GEEKS!!! **puts on B5 Narn costume** I’m going to a NON-Geeky Sci-Fi convention.
Since she was only 6, DU is officially forgiven for liking Wesley. I honestly don’t know anyone who was teens or older at the time who liked him though.
Good to see that your rock is still producing enough moisture and mildew to keep you under it! But I like to say “i have yet to learn” as if you have done the teaching. Your words are little more than annoyance because I have to scroll past them to find the intelligent posters!
I wasn’t baiting really at all. I made the socialism comment as a howdy, its been a while” to you. None of the other matters much.
While I appreciate the sentiment (Lefty McLiberal and Captain Socialism ride again! LOL), it looked to me like you were baiting the righties into a battle over the merits of socialism. I apologize for misinterpreting your comment.
(That being said, conservatrolls may have seizures over reading that socialism=equality. Heh heh)
Honestly. i didn’t even pay much attention to the lol. I just clicked on the comments and started reading. Your disappointment with the public option making its way out of the bill was shared. I realized once you made the comment about the bait and I actually looked at the lol. Yeah. I don’t need to help start any fights on this one. Besides. Everyone knows that socialism isn’t equality. Thats communism. Socialism is just the transition.
Heh heh. That was bad.
ps. i don’t want to get any hopes up, but the public option has come back alive, and is being openly discussed in the house and the senate again. The senate is the main key, there are 41 for sure “yes” votes…we just need 9 more, doh! Closer to a public option than we’ve ever been since this debate started. So cheer up, the government might actually work after all…maybe. *fingers crossed*
If Pelosi had the votes, she’d be having them vote. She’s not nearly as close as she’d like people to believe, especially since they’ve been touting the “end game” for healthcare reform since last July.
The fact that the special interest groups are lining up for handouts — see the Congressional Hispanic Caucus agitating for coverage for illegals — makes me think that any talk of the public option is just a symbolic gesture to try to make some special interest happy.
I think at this point it’s all a symbolic gesture. They keep moving the date back. “If it’s not done by August it’s dead….well crap. Ok, if it’s not done by January it’s dead. Sh!t. Alright, if it’s not done by February it’s dead. MOTHER FU(KER!!! This is it, and I mean it! If it’s not done by March Easter break, it’s dead! I’m serious this time!!”
There was a House Dems meeting today, and the only soundbite i’ve heard from it so far is Pelosi mentioning how much the meeting revolved around public option questions from Dem members. One reason for not voting yet, is they want to make sure the Senate will pass whatever the House sends them.
That’s fairly standard really.
I just want to know WHY there’s no Antisocialism, for misanthropes like myself. I think I’ll start an Antisocial political movement. The conventions will be so much fun — we can all stay home and watch tv and tell ourselves “Well, I don’t really want to spend time with those people. Bleah.”
I think that is a pretty close description of how I feel about both political parties already.
Same here.
We can make the party thats hates people party. First meeting is on Wednesday, are you showing up?
“Depends are you gonna be there?”
“Well yes”
“Then I’m not showing up!”
This party is going to be harder than i thought.
Yes, this will take some more planning.
That’s it. From now on I’m buying you memory foam pillows.
Quack!
Pathetic Troll.
” Vote for it so you’ll know whats in it ” Pelosi must be your idol.
Ewww…troll on troll action. That’s disgusting.
But it was bound to happen.
Rule 34 is merciless.
Troll on troll on troll !!! When will it all end, I shudder to think !
What, you never saw “Trollbang 7″?
Don’t shudder. Then they have won!
2012, duh!
Quack.
(We? What is this we? The liberals hereby disown you, foul beast! We also don’t want you insulting women on ROFLrazzi either. You know what? Just die in a fire.)
Actually, major troll rage fail.
This lol pokes more fun at Republicans that are against the bill without even having read it. But keep exploding, that heart attack cannot be far away.
So in conclusion:
QUACK!
I promise you, neither party has many members who have read the bill.
It doesn’t matter if anyone read it… Republicans will vote no and Democrats would find a way to eff it up anyway!!!
I truly believe that if Obama discovered the cure for cancer today, Democrats would find a way to make sure it doesn’t get out waiting for a “Bipartisan” release and Republicans would blame him for putting Oncologists out of business tomorrow!
How dare you call them nay-sayers! If Rush says aye, they say aye!
Carefull, now… I was “equal opportunity bashing”
I think the Dems could eff up a wet dream (as my husband says)
Hahah…this!
Too true. Teh partisan has reached critical levels. The Democrats can’t get themselves organized enough to get anything done, and no matter what, the Republicans are going to hate ANYTHING Obama does. Seriously, if Obama dumped the health care bill and called it unconstitutional, the Republicans would throw a fit calling him spineless for not sticking to his guns. He can never win.
And he won a LOT of support in St. Louis last night for leaving in the middle of rush hour, closing down one of our biggest highways at about 5 pm. I’m glad I don’t live in that part of town.
Although I heard there was something Obama did that received bipartisan support. I don’t remember what it was, but I almost collapsed from shock.
The country as a whole isn’t any more partisan now that it was under Bush, and not much more than it was under Clinton — about a third of the electorate supports the president no matter what, a third opposes no matter what, and the last third are the moderates. (The last poll I saw suggested that Obama’s strong base was even smaller than that — maybe 25-28%.)
It’s just easier to fall back on Carter-era assumptions — “ungovernable” is already beginning to replace “critically partisan” in some circles — than it is to admit that Obama didn’t have such a strong mandate after all, and after a year of generally weak leadership and no forward progress, his goodwill is running out.
It certainly doesn’t feel that way to me. And I’m not just saying it because of the crap Obama gets. I think it started getting way worse during Bush’s administration. I think general disdain for both parties allowed more extreme elements to gain more of a voice (on both sides). For example, people throw the word “communist” around about several Democrats quite a bit these days. If someone had accused the president of being a communist in the 50′s, he would’ve ended up in congressional hearings and probably bounced out. Admittedly, there isn’t much legitimacy to those accusations of Obama, but the fact that you can say someone is a communist without people calling the cops shows that the extreme left has a voice. And the same with the right. Neocons, while being quite the extreme (and regarded by many as totally batsh!t), do have a real voice in the Republicans.
If the partisanship is as bad as always, it’s at least gotten nastier. But that’s just me
Bush’s presidency was a perfect storm, in some respects — a polarizing president, the biggest existential shock to American culture since the early days of the Cold War, and the rise and popularization of new media, blogs, etc. All of that combined to make the wingnuts angrier and louder than they’d ever been. On top of that, the dinosaurs in charge of the old media companies started losing viewers and subscribers, and decided to start dropping journalism in favor of entertainment and theatrics. I don’t think the loonies necessarily have more of a voice in either party than they ever did; I just think we’re now able to better see how the sausage is getting made, as it were.
Some of that I honestly think is an improvement — I don’t want to live in a country where yelling at the president is seditious. If I call Obama a terrorist (probably the closest modern equivalent to calling someone a Red in the 1950s), I want my statement to be taken on its merits — i.e. laughed at — rather than having some nice man in black start an FBI file on me.
Okay, I can see that. That does make sense.
I don’t think they’re that nice, Dhoti.
Who’s not, charro?
I’m assuming the men in black starting the FBI file.
I thought they dealt with aliens… Hollywool lied to me!!!!
Sorry, I guess I wasn’t that clear. Now that I have to explain it, my wit is no longer that sparkling.
*hangs head in shame*
n/0
Stop dividing by 0!
Oh shi- *vanishes with a popping sound*
But I agreed with Dhoti! That’s what happens!
I agreed with Michael Moore the other day. Zero has been divided by and then abolished.
Fv(k, Froo, never mind dividing, I think you found the square root of zero.
Phew! I made it back! Wait, wha- *vanishes again*
But, Diss, the square root of zero exists. 0×0=0
Me agreeing with Michael Moore has caused a rip in the space-time continuum and made math irrelevant.
Ha! You will come back for the math when you want to escape the rip in the space-time continuum! *gathers up all the rejected math*
I want to know more about this agreement with Michael Moore.
The both think Rep Massa’s snorkeling is gross.
Rando, aside from the blatant partisanship and opinions about Bush and the reasons behind the collapse, I agree with this letter from Moore to the president:
{http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/president-obama-replace-r_b_488416.html}
The main reason is that a president should govern on what he believes he was elected to do, and if that means sometimes telling people to sit down and shut up, then he needs to do it. I respect strong leaders. Sometimes those strong leaders can’t afford to pander and try to get all the kids to play nice in the sandbox to get things done. Sometimes they have to be the decider and just frigging do what they were sent to do. If a majority of the voting public disagrees with that, well, we have a process for that.
Dude, Moore nailed EXACTLY what I’ve been thinking lately. Thank you for posting that.
Now see, if you were my FB friend you would see stuff like that all the time
You know, that occurred to me right after I posted that but I was hoping nobody would notice. Square root of a negative number then, and imaginary numbers don’t count.
Noooooooooooo! You can’t just throw away the entire field of complex analysis like that! You’re so mean! *goes into corner and cries*
I’m just so sick of all the partisan bullsh*t in our country. (Makes me glad I’m an Independent). What happened to a time in the country where we could disagree without being disagreeable?
I remember a time when my parents tought me that it was OK to not like a President for his politics, but you still respected him as the leader of your country. Has that all gone by the wayside?
I get sick of Pundits (on both sides) who bash(ed)Obama (and W. Bush) mercilessly without showing them one iota of respect for their position.
People who know me on this site know that I am a liberal-leaning person, but i am recently finding myself holding Keith Olbermann in as much contempt as I hold Glenn Beck. I am also holding many Democrats and Republicans in the same “contempt pile”.
Maybe The Who had it right… “Meet the new boss… same as the old boss.”
*here endeth my rant
Olbermann is crazy. There’s no doubt about that. And he’s getting worse. I used to like watching him. He was entertaining. Now he just sounds like a raving lunatic. Olbermann was an attempt to counter the likes of Beck, O’Reilly, etc, but he’s the same wolf in another sheep’s clothing. I think he’s shot himself in the foot with his more recent frothiness and general kissing up to Obama without much in the way of objective thinking.
The last time I heard Won’t Get Fooled Again on the radio, I thought about how things haven’t changed. Who knows, maybe Obama is biding his time until he can enact some genius plan. There’s always that hope. It’s not likely, but who knows. That being said, I wouldn’t change my vote. I’d still gladly take Obama stumbling through his first term over anything McCain & Palin would’ve brought. Although outside of Palin being nuts, it probably wouldn’t have been that much different either.
The office of the presidency has taken a lot of hits over the past few decades, from Watergate to a generally ineffective Carter, to Iran-Contra, to Whitewater, to imaginary WMDs. The prestige of the president has been tainted by the presidents themselves, I think. That being said, if I met George W. Bush, I would treat him with respect, no matter what I thought of him.
I think I’d like to have a beer with “W”. My husband met him when he was just the Owner of the Texas Rangers and said he was great to talk baseball with…
If Obama does have some “Genius Plan” like you said… he better hurry up!!
And like you, I wouldn’t change my vote either… McCain and Palin would have gotten me to move to Canada
I’ve said before that W seems like an all right guy. Actually sounds like fun to be around. Just not the kind of person you want running the country. If he had never been a politician he would’ve been just fine.
What really sucks about the Obama administration is that if his “plan” for success was supposed to be spread out over 4 years, he’s screwed because the American people aren’t going to give him that much time. After November, things could get even more difficult than now. It’s not entirely fair because it was gonna take longer than a year for things to get under control. The Democrats have barely had a chance to get started. But their own bungling of Obama’s first year has really been a setback. In short, the Dems blew their best shot, and now things are likely go right back to hell like the last decade. *headdesk*
To be fair, the incoming president pretty much always loses seats in Congress. It’s not like Obama is especially bad or good in that respect.
Was stuck in Reagan Airport the other day waiting for my flight out (ironically Reagan Airport is a very “liberal airport”, has a MSNBC store, had more Pro-Obama stuff during the election in the sotres, the book store carried more liberal books, etc…)and had CNN on the TV. Anderson Cooper was doing a “wonderful hard hitting” journalistic piece on Obama’s Health Care Rallies. After drooling over Obama (outrightly almost as bad as Olbie) he had on a guest who was for Health Care (some old exec who had quite an insurance company). Threw the guy the softest questions I had ever seen. Then brings on the “other view” person. First question: “So my people tell me you refused to be in the same room with so and so (previous guest), why is that?” WTF does that have to do with Health Care? Right there Anderson lost all jounralistic integrity, and his show is supposed to actually be a News show, not a pundit show.
This. Totally. You know (and I know you know) I didn’t like Bush. I didn’t vote in 2000 or 2004, so I know that means I lost my right to whine.. But I didn’t like him. I didn’t much care until 9/11, then I was impressed with him for a while, then he did the Iraq thing. I stopped liking him. I know I’ve bashed him, probably on this site, so no need to go dig out a quote, but I could still respect the man as my President. I can also still be glad that he is gone and can never run again.
I respect Obama that way too, but I’m not happy with him right now. But ignant retards screaming things like “Nobama!” and “He needs to be impeached!” .. Really. What has he done that’s so illegal? We impeach people who break the law.. Not because we think they’re SOCIALIST! ZOMG!
Fine, you don’t like him, say so. Just stop being so ignant about it.
/rant
Aaaand this ^^^
It’s the Principle of the Conservation of Ignance in action. As soon as the “Bush stole the election!” and “Bush lied, people died!” and “Impeach Bush!” people shut up, the “Nobama!” people started up.
It’s like a cosmic game of whack-a-mole.
Maybe a bit like this whack-a-mole game?
{http://thereifixedit.com/2010/03/08/epic-klduge-photo-whac-a-mole-ever/}
OK–we’re dividing by zero again! *looks quickly around for those horsemen of the apocalypse*
TICKLE FIGHT!!!!!
*giggles and runs in circles*
Tickle fight!!!
*tickles wicket*
Does this mean you have to respect Jimmy Carter?
I respect former President Carter. I even respect Habitat for Humanity Carter. But I don’t respect BS Nobel prize winner Carter, or unofficial US foreign policy Carter, or anti-Semite Carter. Cardigan Carter is of course right out.
I agree this bill is about nothing more than ego, the Dems want to be able to say they passed anything called “Health Care Reform” and ther Repubs want to defeat anything called a “Government Takeover”. Neither party cares about the substance of the bill, although it would be nice if they could actually put something together so they and the American public could read it. The only thing that will come of whatever is passed is a windfall for Insurance companies, longer lines at the doctor’s office, higher taxes and more debt for the American Taxpayer.
I’d like to at least see the Cliff’s Notes for it, yeah. I haven’t heard enough about the latest version to be able to say how much of that is true, but it doesn’t sound much like the real reform we really need.
This bill changes more often than Texas weather.
Rando, Pelosi said that in order to read the bill, it has to be voted into law. So we’re buying the house, THEN we get the tour.
*sigh* That’s our Pelosi!
I’ve heard Direct Buy works pretty much the same way. They won’t tell you the actual prices unless you buy a membership. Which means I won’t buy one, because that stinks.
Direct Buy memebership is a few thousand dollars too……. Dey be CRAZY!!!
Anyone that posts under the following line… …Is a loser
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Hi, sweetie!
Where did we go wrong? Oh yeah, we’re losers, so it stands to reason that we’ve raised a loser son. *sigh* I blame YOU dear.
Oops, left of the “S DAD” part. See? We’re such a family of losers.
Stop calling me “dear.” It was just that one night 12 years ago and I was really drunk. Just because Maury said you were the kids father doesn’t prove anything to me. It could’ve been any of the 7 guys I slept with that night!
Hee hee.
So I should just call you my loser baby’s mama?
Six more years of child support and I’m FREEEE!!!
No… you should call FASSSTTTEERRRR’S Mom the loser’s baby mama.
That loser is always hitting on other women! You leave my baby daddy alone! I need the child support! $5 bj’s don’t exactly pay the bills you know!
Ma’am, I wasn’t hitting on your baby daddy.
Hey…how YOU doin’?
I’m afraid of your baby mama. That’s how I am.
Now my baby daddy is hitting on you! I just hope my 8 other baby daddies don’t hit on you too. They’re all jerks!
I’m not trying to get with any of your baby daddies, I promise. I’m sorry your child is such a loser as well.
Got a couple of couches, sleep on the loveseat.
Don’t believe everything that you breathe.
You get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve.
(Unrelated — this is another fun LOL for playing with the “Recent Comments” box! I just noticed.)
I wonder if this will work or if it’s too long.
Sadly, I forgot the “on” would be there, so it’s less fun than I hoped.
I’m savin’ all my food stamps and burnin’ down the trailer park.
Yo. cut it.
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
LOL, for the longest time I thought it was “don’t believe everything that you breed”…
Quack.
That is all.
Wow, I am impressed at the honest discussion and low troll numbers on this one. I was expecting a lot more hate and useless name calling. I don’t think anyone should vote for something this massive unless they’ve read it, thought about and discussed it with others of varying opinions. And that is if they vote yes or no!
It’s early. Give it time. The trolls will come.
*looks up from placing troll-bait trail towards this post*
I have no idea how they all find their way here.
*sniffs* Smells like catfish bait.
It’s quiet… too quiet.
It’s a little ominous in here.
A little too ominous.
It’s too quiet.
Too TOO quiet.
Too TOO too quiet.
*tiptoes up behind Ivan, Rando, Andy and MG*
*blasts air horn*
SURPRISE!1!!!
Jeez diss! You made me jump out of my skin, how am I gonna put it back on?
*sigh*
Ok, I’ll turn it rightside out for you. Put your arms over your head….
*zips skin up the back*
There, all better?
I saw that! Diss, it was very naughty of you to dust the inside of the skin with pepper before helping Andy on with it.
That wasn’t pepper. It was ….magic dust. How you feeling, there, Andy?
I feel as if I have a full body sneeze coming on, very strange, kinda itchy, and possibly more tasty than before. Hmmm, very odd. Well I
*internal organs sneeze simultaneously (didn’t know they could do that did you?) scattering Andy’s body parts all across PK*
Thanks. Does anyone know if Andy will wash out of this sweater?
Ivan, you might want to soak that in some Oxy-Clean.
Sorry about that, Andy! How about if we get you gathered back up and see what we can do?
Leave it in the sweater. Years from now, it will be worth millions!
*Rando flatlines*
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…….
“He ok…he ok….he ok…..he ok….oh he dead.”
We can change that! I’ve a car battery, a couple wires, and a fairy. What else could a woman need for Rando-resuscitating?! Could you sprinkle a little fairy-dust on his head?
*rummages around with wires and Rando*
Clear!
*applies juice*
Rando? Are you with us?
You don’t want the magic dust I bought. It didn’t suit Andy at ALL.
*peels “magic dust” label off of shaker*
It is pepper! Who sold you that?
>.>
<.<
Aw, dammit. I traded my cow for that magic dust.
I was going towards the light, but then I realized it was just a 7-11, so I came back.
A little TOO Raph.
What, this turtle shell mermaid top I brought you? You wanted the Michelangelo version?
No Andy! I love your gift. Thank you! Look how pretty it is!
*models for Andy*
What?! We don’t have to read no stinking bill! We just have to pass it so then we can see what’s in it…
Already been said, try again troll.
She’s not a troll, she’s pretty nice, really. However, reading the previous comments fail would be a fair statement.
She is quite nice.. For a conservative.
Ahhh!! Thanks guys! I like you too.
Now about that fail, look at the timestamps… Oh, and no1, read your name.
I have here an unpublished draft of the basic healthcare bill: it starts well, but regrettably there are another 100,000 pages…
‘When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to go into hospital, and to assume the undignified and uncomfortable station to which the random laws of nature and of nature’s God have sentenced them, a decent respect to the benefit of all mankind requires that we should share the risks and the costs which could otherwise impel them to the workhouse.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of decent healthcare. That to secure these rights, hospital trusts are instituted among men, deriving their required revenues from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of healthcare system becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new system, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their health, safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that an insurance-based private health care system long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that we are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to change the system. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object (enormous profit) evinces a design to reduce people under absolute poverty, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such a system, and to provide new guards for their future health. –Such has been the patient’s sufferance in these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of health care provision. The history of the present Insurance-based system is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the extraction of unwarranted profit.’
Now who’s gonna vote that down, eh?
Can you publish a Cliff Notes?
WTF! Why does such a simple idea need 100,000 pages of rubbish? Assuming you can read 1 page every minute, if you spent 12 hours a day doing nothing but reading, it would take you 139 days to read the whole bloody thing!
I’m not the sort to see conspiracy theories everywhere but I guess someone didn’t want this document to ever be read
Also WTF is God doing in a Senate Bill I thought America had a separation of church and state?
Hee hee.
1) I made it up.
2) Google Declaration of Independence.
Durr.
*votes for Keithy*
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*later admits to never having actually read the bill*
Great job. Hmm, you people must have remembered what the folks on this side of the pond forgot. Treat yourself to scones and clotted cream.
What on Earth are you trying to say?
I’ll vote it down. Sounds kind of Communist or Scoailist to me…. take out the whole Government thing and it sounds MUCH better.
Quack.
CORRECTION: It should have read, “If you care about the real issues, raise your hand.”
Well, ok. But if you want to vote on something, shouldn’t you at least read it and have a firm understanding about it? I haven’t and I won’t take a stance since I want some of what I’ve heard is in it. Though less pork is a must…
Understanding is underrated.
Under the sheets is DEF underrated…
DERP!
No, it’s quack. Keep up.
I like my version better.
OBAMA 2012! Palin 2020(as all presidents elected in a 0 ending year have died in office, excluding Reagan(almost) and Bush(who almost choked on a potato chip, LOL). Strangely enough, the only president to die in office NOT elected in a 0 ending year died in 1850. Strange, aye?
Hey, how is my mom? She really did need to get laid. Thanks!
*wipes fauxhito off the monitor* It IS a school night, after all!
Not here it isn’t
3 more hours until the weekend *yay*
Doing my mom? DAD! I told you to stay off the Internet!!!
who almost choked on a potato chip,
Pretzel, wasn’t it?
My mom needed to get laid, too — tough out there for the over-70 crowd, you know? Keep up the good work!
And mine too; amazing, isn’t it?
You think your mothers need to get laid? Ha! I’m convinced mine is still a virgin(despite obvious evidence to the contrary)!
Sr was a Pretzel and Jr was a Potoatoe Chip… also Sr had the food poisoning in Japan and puked on the Japanese PM’s lap.
And you remember this how? Other than the obvious Dan Quayle association!
B/C I follow politicians and know most of their snafus….
Quack!
Nice…
Thank you !!
Kudos to keeping the trolls at bay, & having a rational discussion. Its more than I can say for Congress.