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okay! way to go.
good ol’ boys? must be in Texas.
EAST Texas, thankyouverymuch
absolutely right!
Ever heard of Rivercrest?
you got me there.
is it a town?
some of my folks come from around Lufkin, Nacogdoches, etc.
Between Lufkin and Nac there is a side road that goes down toward Kurth Lake. It’s called Rivercrest Road. DO NOT GO DOWN THERE UNLESS YOU’RE WHITE, and do not go down there after dark.
I am white, but I think I’ll stay away from there. white people who are not racist are often treated like they aren’t white by the racists.
there are some ugly, ugly old secrets hidden away in the Big Thicket.
You’re absolutely right. I can only hope that Kurth Lake will unleash its alligator population upon that little hell hole.
pfft
PBTH
not the raspberries again….
Do you have a better use for my tongue? I mean, geez……
*gets out video camera, and hides in shrubbery*
“We are the Knights who say NI. We want a SHRUBBERY”
I was playing a computer game, some mystery-type thing. I was clicking around, trying to find a specific “hot-spot” to advance the game, and I clicked in the bushes. The game said “A shrubbery. A nice one, and not too expensive.” IMMD. I didn’t post this on IMMD because not everyone would get it.
That is hysterical!
But some people would, and those would did would make their days too! go for it, sock monkey man!
I think someone is watching us…
Aw, c’mon baby, that just makes it more fun.
you invitin’ more spectators?
*penile anxiety issues* ….uhhh, this has never happened to me before…i don’t know why i can’t….i promise this never happens.
It’s the money you could be saving if you switched to Geico.
That’s the 2nd time today I’ve gotten to use that line.
i can’t go with someone watching me like that
There was a young man from Kent.
Who’s penis was terribly bent
To save himself trouble
He put it in double
And rather than coming he went
*points to his buns* An excellent use of your tongue, my dear.
I may kiss your ass, but I shan’t lick it. At least, not in public *licks Ivan’s ear instead*
I was referring to the cinnamon buns in my avatar, you dirty, dirty girl.
On the other hand, it is Oral Day, is it not?
Why yes! In all the excitement, I clean forgot!
They have this same picture for Democrats. It has Billy C, Carter, FDR, JFK, and Johnson I believe. Being in DC you see them all the time. I wonder how long for it to be updated with Obama.
8 years…?
You wish
Well less since he only has what? 2 more in office… and the Bush Jr one was made well before his first term was up.
You misspelled “6.”
You hope
Unless the GOP can pull a miracle out of it’s butt, Rando speaks the truth. And no, Palin/Bachmann is NOT the miracle the GOP is looking for. It’s the miracle the Dems are looking for. *cheeky grin*
Don’t think it’s a miracle for the GOP, think it’s the dems miracle to happen. Obama’s lost the moderates/ independents, he’ll be hard pressed to keep his place in office. That is unless the Dems scares voters with the the “If you don’t vote for Obama you’re racist” technique which really isn’t that far off.
mmmm…
the new/old deal about creating jobs by rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure might be a really good move. Obama doesn’t draw attention to the similarity this has to FDR, but I don’t think he has to. that would be risky overkill, and the big O handles things with finesse.
and then there is the expiration of taxes for the wealthy. Obama’s linking of tax cuts for the middle class to ending of tax cuts for the super-rich will hit a sympathetic chord in voters.
if Dems use a scare tactic, I think it will be, “If you vote for the GOP, you’ll be in the same mess they caused before… but deeper.” THAT scare tactic just might work.
the GOP needs to come up with some solid pro-active ideas, not just “no, don’t do what Obama wants.”
and they’ve got to get their act together with some viable candidates. what do you think of Pawlenty. my yellow-dog Democrat kids are a little scared of him as a GOP candidate.
OotB has a point. What do the Republicans have except “We don’t like Obama?” In fact, that’s exactly what Roy Blunt is running on here in MO. “Robin Carnahan supports the Obama agenda. Roy Blunt doesn’t.”
And I’ve heard about those in the Republican party who are gung ho on returning us to the GWB administration. Those opposing letting the Bush tax cuts run out are an example of this. I think the Democrats should exploit that viewpoint as well:
“The Republicans are trying to sway your vote by saying they oppose the Obama agenda. But do you really want to return to the days of the Bush administration? That’s what the Republicans want.”
It seems to me that both parties are in disarray. The Democrats can’t all get on the same page, while the Republicans have no vision. Neither party seems to have a decent vision for the future if you ask me.
Ah yes, tax cuts. Then the next president will have to figure out a way to start paying of the national debt-did someone say Economic Stimulus?-without increasing taxes and risking that popularity vote.
I just wish we could actually get someone in office that is in it for the betterment of the American people…not just to hit a sympathetic chord to advance his agenda. I’m tired of the popularity votes and would really appreciate the Dems and the Repubs getting their acts together and putting a real human in office…Down With Political Pansies!!
I’d think I’d rather a nice picture of dogs playing poker than either of these two fine examples of political circle jerk.
yep. cute dogs win every time.
You see the latest and greatest, it’s Dog’s playing X-Box, and I believe the game is Halo.
That would go nicely right in between my dogs playing poker and my dogs watching football….
*looks at his painting of dogs doing their taxes and wonders if he’s weird*
But do you have the one of dogs watching cats poledancing?
That’s just wrong! And a sign of the apocalypse!
yeah, you’re weird.
but, fortunately for you, weird fits right in at PK.
Must be the pre-racism Republicans versus the pro-racism Republicans.
but they all seem to be yukking it up pretty good… and gittin’ along together.
maybe it isn’t so much pre-racism vs. post-racism as it is pre-openracism vs. post-openracism.
and, yeah, before you ask, openracism IS a word. at least NOW it is.
So republicans are racist. How professional of an opinion you have, and to think you’re teaching today’s children. **has a warm and fuzzy about that**
Don’t worry about them. People like that are silly, even if they are teachers.
not all of them. I was just making a dumb joke.
should have put in TWO smileys.
and 
for this post.
btw, I am retired now, teach only (usually young) adults, only part-time. but when I did teach in HS, I always made it balanced.. even supplying arguments for the other side when the kids didn’t.
if there is no loyal opposition, freedom of thought soon goes out the window. if there is no conservative voice heard, liberal views become very twisted very quickly… and visa versa.
it is just that here on PK, there are a number of intelligent conservative voices, like you (at least, your Dr. Jekyll persona), so I am free to be a liberal voice.
PB, sometimes you get kinda paranoid vis-a-vis liberals, and get into the Mr. Hyde persona; but that doesn’t really bother me. after all, I am not too stupid to realize that this site lists a little to port, and a little starboard paranoia is acceptable on a port-listing ship.
some of my dear friends are other races.
some of my dear friends are other religions (including Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Wiccan, Buddhism, Catholicism, Mormonism, various fundamentalist sects, and Jehovah’s Witness, agnosticism and atheism.)
some of my dear friends are Republican (including an especially dear friend who is a caring and compassionate Christian, but literally believes that Obama is the anti-Christ.) Some are socialist. Some say they are communist. … and, yeah some are Democrats.
I don’t just preach the celebration of diversity. I live it. and I have learned that I can’t just pigeonhole people into neat little boxes. there are all sorts of combinations of human qualities and beliefs, for which I am very grateful. a box of 64 crayons is not fun if they are all the same color.
So that was the best line I’ve ever seen about crayons.
glad you liked it. I got to use it 5 times a year when I taught HS. (one for each class period), but not so much anymore. I haven’t copyrighted it. feel free to use it anytime, anywhere. I just want the idea to spread.
A voice of reason well done ‘outofthebox’ I just thought but he Bushes arent dead yet!
Where’s the wimmin at?
Where de WHITE wimmin at.
I have a feeling that a similar separation of the sexes occurred in non-white homes, too.
but, of course, I don’t know for sure.
anybody got some insight into that? anybody? anybody?
not sure if you caught it or not; Cricket was referencing Mel Brooks’ movie Blazing Saddles.
Awesomesauce movie.
With a side of awesome. Yes, that’s the movie to which I referenced.
“Can’t you see that this is the last act of a desperate man”
“We don’t care if it’s the last act of Henry V, we’re getting out of here”
nope, didn’t catch it. been too long since I last saw it.
Some movies are worth re-seeing every so often. Katherine Hepburn flicks, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, Life of Brian… Anything with good witty dialogue!
The Princess Bride.
The Wizard of Oz.
Days of Thunder….errr?
It’s a Wonderful Life
Arsenic and Old Lace…
Oooh, one of my favs!
Also, Gone With The Wind
Groundhog Day..
Galaxy Quest
Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail.
Clerks.
Dogma.
Office Space
Judge Dredd
Wayne’s World
Gigli? I mean umm Sex in the City… $hit I mean Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!! yes!!
didn’t realize anyone else appreciated it. my kids don’t. they put on dark glasses, look the other way, and pretend they don’t know me if I mention it in public.
or were you just making fun of it?
Fried Green Tomatoes.
What?
in the kitchen. washin’ the dishes and dishin’ the dirt.
it was always this way when I was a kid and we had a big family get-together. except no one in our family could afford a pool table, so the men just sat around in the living room and talked politics (ladies weren’t supposed to bother their pretty little heads about dirty ol’ politics)
I found that if I sat very quietly in a small corner of the living room, they wouldn’t notice I was there. gave me quite an education in politics. and widened my vocabulary, too. in a direction that displeased my mother.
Heh heh. I did the same. But would also help in the kitchen sometimes for good relations and similar listening-in learning. The women in my family were not faint flowers, even if they did all the housework!
–I’m rather glad that the women in my generation are divvying up housework according to interest/ability with their respective spouses!
I like the new way, too. even though I can’t quite get used to the idea of co-ed baby showers.
I also learned a lot from the kitchen when the men’s conversation got boring… or they noticed me and sent me out.
of course, my experience was probably a generation or two older than yours. there are things talked about open openly now that were unmentioned in those days… except in the kitchen. I learned how women in the early 1900′s “practiced birth control,” and heard an antique “dirty” joke.
You ARE going to share, RIGHT?!?!
And I was in diapers when Kennedy was shot.
you want me to share my family’s experience with regard to the Kennedy shooting?
okay…
he was in For Worth before Dallas. while he was in Ft. Worth, one of my uncles (reporter for the Star-Telegram) interviewed him. another uncle (motorcycle police officer) escorted his motorcade. each had pictures of himself taken beside Kennedy. there were no digital photos in those days, just the slow darkroom procedure. by the time they got the prints back, they were in mourning for him.
I was in college at the time, in Houston. someone came into the classroom and told the prof and he told us. we all broke down sobbing.
I was looking for the antique dirty joke!
The Kennedy reference was to show I wasn’t a GenX puppy… But very cool family history, none the less. My father took a photo of me on a bear-skin-type rug in front of the television with Kennedy’s funeral in the background. Don’t know what motivated him to do that, but it is interesting to see, now.
Yeah, I knew what you meant. just jerkin’ your chain. see antique birth control and antique birth control joke below.
Yay!
oh, wait a minute… this is a FUNNY political site.
okay, I will try to give you the lowdown on the dirty stuff, but I might get moderated
old school birth control: salt water douche. SOON after. (or just before and just after, if you’re really worried). freshwater lifeforms cannot live in salty environment. pour salt water on a patch of grass, and no grass will grow there for a LONG time. drink salty seawater and you die. “cure” meat in salt, and preserve it…microbes won’t grow. throw seawater on wounds made by a lash, and they won’t get infected. etc. my grandmother had 3 kids in 3 years. then nothing. I think she might have had something there, but I never tried it… modern med seems surer and not so scary.
antique joke:
Jane: “do you know how to keep from getting in the family way?”
Joan: “no, how?”
Jane: “you put a pebble in your husband’s shoe.”
Joan: “how does that keep you from getting in the family way?”
Jane: “it makes him limp.”
human beings have always been human.
The salt water sounds…painful. Not as painful as childbirth, but…OW!
I think I’ll try the pebble on the BF, just for giggles.
I’m kinda glad that doesn’t happen everyday, who would really want to shoot pool with Zombie Abe Lincoln? Just sounds dangerous to me.
all those 8 ball jokes, not funny Abe..not funny
Loser gets his brains eaten.
I think Lincoln and Roosevelt, and perhaps Eisenhower, can hardly be considered as members of the same party as the rest. I might even place Nixon with them rather than the others; it was under Reagan that the Government of the People became the government of the wealthy and powerful. Ford doesn’t even merit mention.
I beg to differ with you.
*goes down on knees to beg*
Ford was a pretty decent guy.
the fact that he “doesn’t merit attention” is the biggest attention-getter.
at the time he took office, the country was in a mess, and in a constitutional crisis: for the first-and-only time, the nation had a president and commander-in-chief who had never been elected to either President or Vice-President.
there were people who were claiming he had no legitimate authority to govern, and others who predicted the country would just fall apart. coming so soon after the uncertain time of the Kennedy assassination, and with the Watergate Scandal still roiling, the situation cast a pall of unreality over the entire country. It was an incredible accomplishment that President Ford managed to make everything seem so normal that we now think it was a blah administration.
That and some pretty good material for Chevy Chase’s pratfalls. It wasn’t a horrible time in history, for which Ford gets major credit. I’ve never begrudged his all-golf all-the-time retirement!
Yeah, two falls in the history of his presidency, and he’s know as The President Who Fell Down A Lot thanks to Chevy
I gather someone did an analysis of the falls, and one of them was to prevent Mrs. Ford from being knocked over. He was an athlete, after all.
he was pegged as junior statesmen as being too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time, i think his problem with falling had a loooong history. but at least he didn’t puke in a foreign dignitary’s lap….
You seem very knowledgeable in your past Presidential public perceptions (that’s a mouthful). Why do so many people (mostly Republicans) say that Jimmy Carter was one of the worst Presidents ever?
Because of the rabbit. Duh.
When I was in grade school, we were probably using 5-10 year old books. Reagan had just been elected, and nothing was ever taught about Carter because he was so recent. I don’t know of the rabbit you speak of. do tell. I only google things like jello-wresting rules and Seinfeld quotes.
I still can’t believe that they weren’t teaching my generation ANYTHING about Kennedy or Vietnam. We were going out to be adults with folks who were heavily effected by both, and we were learning NOTHING. My HS years were 1977-1981, so you’d think they could agree on at least the basics by then?!?
nope. too soon, too hot, too controversial….
In defense of your history teacher…
history keeps getting longer and longer; i.e., more and more stuff to teach, and in the same 36 weeks.
and there are “curriculum guides” that tell you what you can and can’t leave out. there is so much that is required, that you sometimes have to jettison good stuff that isn’t required.
when I was teaching world history, the whole history of the whole world in 36 weeks of 45-minute classes, we were told “just make sure you drop the bomb” by the end of the school year. everything post WWII was deemed expendable.
at the beginning of summer, I would cry over the things I had not had time to teach.
And then there was my ‘world history teacher’. Who spent 95% of the time talking about the most recent football or wrestling match. Yes, he was also a coach. I would try and read the dreadful textbook so as not to waste the hour. It helps if you can find out what the earlier teachers have covered. We recently jettisoned mitosis and meiosis from the course I teach, because it was getting covered in 5 different courses, all required. If they haven’t learned if after 3 repetitions…?
the whole thing about the coach/historyteacher hits a very raw nerve for me. coaches were REQUIRED by state law or sumpthin to teach an academic course as well as an athletic one. nobody wanted the coaches teaching in their dept.
for some reason (maybe because the powers that be didn’t really want people to learn about gov’t or history) the social studies dept nearly always got/gets dumped on. at least, here in Texas.
so now we have a population in a democratic-republic country that doesn’t know about judicial review, freedom of religion, or the painful lessons of the Great Depression, the Holocaust, and Viet Nam.
mitosis and meiosis? no, no, not those!
and, on, yeah, they don’t learn after X number of repetitions. just look at the spelling and grammar in the essays turned in by seniors. but we keep tryin’.
For what it is worth, the US History teacher was awesome, the head football coach taught sociology (and supposedly was good), and the US government/citizen teacher? She made you almost look forward to jury service, for goodness sake!
World history got pooped on.
3 out of 4 ain’t bad!
One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone says that something occurs “here in Texas”. Being from Texas, you should be well aware of the extreme size of our state. Your experiences are not the same as the experiences of your fellow Texans. “In my part of Texas” should be the expression used.
For instance, I was born and raised in Texas. My history/government teachers were extremely learned and thorough about their teaching. This includes one basketball coach who also happened to have his Masters.
The only other coach I ever had as a teacher was my teacher for Geology/Meteorology/Oceanography. And, believe me, that guy was no slouch.
I love the fact that you complain about the grammar of 18 year olds when you, yourself, can’t seem to locate the “shift” key. Or spell “something” and “Vietnam”.
jeesh, cool down… you’re gonna pop a blood vessel.
*pours a bucket of cold water over Jessi*
you wanna Texas pissin’ contest? okay.
I am an umpteenth-generation Texan.
when did y’all git here?
I probably have seniority. you are probably a (relative) newcomer. (you sure as shootin’ ain’t non too friendly.. doancha know where the name “Texas” came from?)
My folks are from Texas. all over Texas.
One of’em out in West Texas pissed off his West Texas neighbors a few generations back by claimin’ that his slave was really his second wife (tho it wasn’t legal for’em to git hitched) and then, when she passed on, buryin’ her in the family plot, next to his first (white) wife. Whoo-ee did those other Texans git burned. but he didn’t pay’em no never-mind. jus’ up’n did what he wanted to do.
all very independent cusses.
I am a Texan. my folks are from all over Texas… still are all over Texas… and I’ll say what I damn well want about MY state.
btw, I know where the shift key is, dummy. sometimes I make typos. sometimes I deliberately employ non-traditional English spelling, grammar, syntax, etc. because I just want to.
Did your English teacher ever mention terms like “local color,” “voice,” “perspective,” “poetic license,” “hyperbole,” or a few dozen others I could throw in to explain variations in writing styles?
The HS students who turned in those papers I mentioned were supposed to be submitting formal, final papers, after several rounds of first-draft, second-draft, etc.
I am glad that you are pleased with the teachers in your schooling. However, your lambastic, arrogant, shallow-thinking reply tells me that they didn’t quite accomplish what they should have with you.
Whoo….I got flashburns just reading that, and it wasn’t even aimed at me!
You still rock.
thank you, LaFeeVerte!
you just made my day!
You’re welcome! You sound a lot like a friend of mine who teaches Anthropology at a Louisville, KY community college. Whenever she has a frustrating day from August to May, she blames it on something that “rhymes with prudence.”
PMAT = prophase, metaphase, anaphase, telophase. i remember that much
Telophase. That’s when you can transport your body through a telephone, right? Or is that when Scotty beams you up?
I play monday and tuesday. Interphase, or the in-between-part, is when the signals for division control happen–I’ll still be teaching that part!
In my state they’ve taken to dividing it up instead of rehashing the same stuff every time you get history. You get Exploration to Pre-Revolution in the fifth grade, Revolution to WWII in the eight, and WWII to Present Day in the eleventh grade. Makes more sense and enables teachers to get through everything. My history teacher in high school was the girl’s soccer coach and made us copy terms and people out of the book every day, when he wasn’t harassing me about the books I read when I was done with my work (I was allowed to read, he was making fun of what I chose to read).
sounds like a good plan.
wish we had it here.
Yeah, pretty much my memories of US History over the years I was taught it in K-12 school were that they tended to start at a very early point (when I was a kid, Columbus; when my kids were little, US History started with — say it in chorus, kids! — “land bridge”) and run out of time before they ran out of history. It would be spring break, WWIaaaaughwe’vegotalottocoverdepressionWWIImaybeKoreabye kids, see you next year! One year I swear we never even made it to WWI….
Which is why I was so happy to hear that my son’s high school US History teacher STARTED the year with the Civil War with the intent of actually covering everything after that.
Carter got attacked by a swamp rabbit at some point. That and the sweaters and his general cluelessness about how to fix things like the gas crisis, the misery index, and horrible inflation pretty much marked him for life.
It’s not that he didn’t mean well, because he did.
Sounds like bad timing.
Sounds like Obama.
You just proved my point.
How it pains me I have to go with itsy on this one. Obama is the 2000′s version of Jimmy Carter, except with tons more ego, and more bickering, and more partisanship… wait where was I going with this, oh yeah. Obama’s inability to handle situations = Carter’s. Fortunately 4 years with Carter gave us Reagan, so maybe we’re in for some Conservative goodiness in 2012.
the gas crisis?
you mean “shortage”?
there wasn’t any. it was artificially manufactured by oil/gas companies that didn’t like his policies toward their industry.], such as:
establishment of the dept. of energy,
price control,
emphasis on new energy technology,
installation of solar panels in the White House,
dramatic steps against petrochemical pollution and contamination by declaring Love Canal a federal emergency, creating the Superfund law and requiring petrochemical companies to pay for cleaning up the messes and treating the terrible illnesses they caused.
during this time I lived in Houston. A consumer-oriented TV reporter filmed from a helicopter as it flew over huge tanks of petrol products, and infiltrated the refineries, tankers, etc., like Michael Moore did later. He showed conclusively that there was no gas shortage. the storage facilities were bursting at the seams.
This scares the crap out of me. Private sector holding the public sector hostage. God I could write a book about my opinions and fears about the future of our country and the world, when oil companies have more pull than the President does. Here’s a quote, i don’t know who said it, but it’s factually true. If you click my name *linky* it will take you to a wonderful music video that includes this quote in the middle of the song. And it gives me a “tingle up my leg” but not the good kind – the kind that makes you want to cry.—-
“If we do not cut carbon by 90% by 2030 then carbon emmissions in the atmosphere reach 430 parts per million. That is the point at which, unequivicably, most of the world’s major ecosystems go into positive feedback. The biosphere becomes a net source of carbon dioxide, and then the game is out of our hands. It has got nothing to do with us anymore, because there is nothing we can do to stop it. There has to be rationing and distribution within our own economies and there has to be rationing and distribution around the world.”
Read it with the song, it’s so much more moving.
It’s not just domestic oil companies. OPEC is a cartel that controls the world’s oil supply.
agreed. and my fears are based more on American politics, but the quote nor the band in the link are American. I’m fully aware that’s it’s not just an American problem. If the global, non-human, biological environment starts producing more carbon dioxide than it’s consuming. Game over. You can’t fix that. Positive feedback is exponential and if our atmosphere reaches that point, then we’re f@cked. If Republicans weren’t heavily backed by oil companies and this private sector is GOD in America, then I think that conservatives would care more about their grandchildren’s atmosphere than they are worried about their grandchildren’s national debt. It’s a human issue and the sooner we act on it the better.
It seems that I have heard about a similar process in terms of the melting tundra, and how, once it reaches a certain point, it will keep warming no matter what we do. or maybe it’s part of the same thing you’re talking about. do you know anything about this, or am I just totally mixed up?
Your are totally correct. Carbon dioxide is in essence, the cause of global warming. This is as nutshell as i can put a very complicated issue: Forests eat carbon dioxide. Burning gasoline, coal, and natural gas put absurd amounts of carbon dioxide in the air. Lowering the ratio between carbon dioxide consumers (forests) while increasing exponentially the output (power plants, factories, and gasoline cars) is in direct correlation with the “climate change” phenomena. As Cricket has expressed below, Republicans don’t like this theory because it means more private sector regulation and more taxes for companies that produce more carbon emissions (an effort to reduce carbon, NOT to make more tax revenue). They claim that the correlation between the two are just coincidence and is a natural occurrence (not man made). They have found a very few “private sector” scientists to agree with them, while the majority of the science community view this theory as fact.
You and I disagree on whether or not it’s man-made, clearly
The non-scientific approach to science…what a concept. Ask yourself who is selling this idea to you?
I never said I didn’t like the theory, but as far as climate change goes, the jury is still out on the man-made part of it. Even Republicans will admit that climate change happens, but the cause being completely man-made isn’t set in stone.
Killing forests to build more houses for people to drive their cars to work in the new factory….of course it’s not man-made that’d be a silly conclusion to make.
even if only part of it is man-made, wouldn’t it be a good idea to stop the part we can, seeing the consequences ahead?
The idea that humanity has had no long-term effect on the global climate is plain silly. Whether or not every little example of climate change can be tied to us should be irrelevant; what we can do to limit our part in it should be the topic of discussion. It should be plainly obvious that you cannot change the face of the globe as drastically as we have without some sort of long-term effect.
Whether or not it’s permanent is another question, one made less relevant by the fact that the damage doesn’t have to be permanent to last long enough to completely screw things up for humanity.
I disagree with measures like cap-and-trade, but that’s mostly because I think it’s a useless half measure so that people can pat themselves on the back for being ‘green’ without having to actually sacrifice anything.
I’m not saying “Earth first, we’ll strip mine the other planets later”; My issue is with thinking that humans can actually destroy the planet. We’re just not that powerful. We have to be good stewards of what we have, and since the 70′s when the smog was too thick to see through and you could see the lead hanging in the air from gasoline, we’ve come a long way. We have further to go, but acting as though me running my A/C on a hot day or driving to see my parents 3 hours away is going to irreparably damage the planet is silly. You’re acting as though we’re not doing anything right, and that’s just incorrect. You’re also acting as though we’re not making huge changes that have helped.
Climate Change happens. It’s fueled by cycles in the universe, just like pretty much everything else. We can’t stop the next ice age any more than we can bring one on, and the same thing goes for bringing on a new roasted planet.
Cap and trade is another way to enrich fat cats. If they were truly worried about the planet, selling off credits woudln’t be the way to fix it. It’s just shuffling the problem around as opposed to actually having an impact. Pushing mud from one side of a parking lot to another doesn’t reduce the amount of mud, it just makes it the problem of the guy with the store on the other side of the parking lot.
If cap and trade gets as much resistance, how can you expect something more effective to even be considered? also, what more effective policies are you talking about? (besides making anything fossil fuel related illegal)
With cap and trade, follow the money. It’s designed to make people like Al Gore gawd-awful rich.
We’re not just belligerently belching out crap like we used to, and every year we try to do better. Houses are being built to be greener, and that’s a major shift. Retro-fitting houses and cars shouldn’t be forced because of the expense, but new stuff should be and generally is eco-friendly. We’ve got the EPA making sure things are being done right (although you don’t want me on that politicized bandwagon, argh), and great strides have been made since (as I said before) the 70′s and 80′s. When’s the last time you heard about acid rain? Corporations are forced to clean up their acts or suffer in the face of massive fine and PR nightmares……
We’ve done damage, but we’re doing a lot of good now.
And stop painting all Republicans with the same tarred brush, you commie.
@Cricket. Wind energy and solar power could replace our power plants if every household was responsible for their own power consumption. I would be a conservative if conservatives actually cared about conserving. Big business isn’t any better than big government, and in all practicality they are much much worse. Our whole economy and way of living is dependent on petroleum and banks. A true conservative would shed those two institutions as quick as possible. What bothers me is “conservatives” voting against my conservative values. Sometimes the government needs to play it’s part, and in this particular conversation the government is the only institution that can help us get there.
Wind and solar only work if you’ve got wind and the sun, LOL. They aren’t possible in places up north or where you don’t have a good view of the sky. Pickens did a damn good job trying to jump-start wind energy farms, and he’s pretty much given it up as far too expensive to be worth it. The problem with using a diffuse source and turning it into a concentrated form of energy is that it’s so cost-prohibitive as to be silly.
hey, guys, I saw this neat story on CBS 60 minutes. about this amazing new fuel cell.
google “Bloom technology” or “Bloom box” or “Bloom fuel cell.” it will blow you away.
Dear cricket,
you said, “My issue is with thinking that humans can actually destroy the planet. We’re just not that powerful.”
back in the 60′s (no, don’t roll your eyes
), we were all terrified that the nuclear bombs would all go off and blow the planet apart. it didn’t happen. but it could have.
we do have the power to destroy the planet, either quickly (massive nuclear explosions and chain reactions) or slowly (poisoning the water and air to destroy life, and eradicating the layers of balanced mix of gases that protect the planet form the sun).
oxidation destroys, whether it is very slow, like rotting, or medium, like burning, or very quick, like gas explosions. [very small gasoline explosions in the cylinders make the internal combustion engine run]
radiation destroys, whether it is very slow, like sun damage to the skin, or medium, like x-rays and cancer treatments, or very fast, like nuclear explosions (chain reactions).
if the protective blanket is removed from earth, it will slowly roast until it is as dead as Mars. and we have the power to remove that blanket. we are already doing it, one thread at a time.
As somebody who did their undergrad work in geology, I’d have to agree, it would be very unlikely for humans to destroy the earth, per se — on the other hand, I think we may well have to potential to make it completely unfit for human habitation, which would be just as bad for us. And of course, the Squirrels.
Won’t someone think of the squirrels!!??!?!?!?!
yep, Dis, you’re right.
poor squirrels
He’s a genuinely nice guy. I’m not sure you can be president and be a genuinely nice guy.
Exactly. He’s a nice guy.
Whats wrong with having a ‘nice guy’ as your leader? This is totally baiting, but wasn’t George W. Bush a ‘nice guy’?
mmmm… no
so i can prove a point, i request only people that agree with the statement answer…and have you checked your messages yet?
I don’t think Bush was the same kind of nice guy as Carter.
Oh I don’t know, Cricket, the times when Dubya came to Australia, he always seemed warm, charming and very friendly, even if we ribbed him mercilessly (The Chasers, disguised as Osama bin Laden, breaking through a secure barrier using only a Canadian flag on a car, driving straight up to his hotel for example).
Typical Texan really
He is all of those things, C-V. He’s a very genial and nice guy, and he’s the kind of guy it’d be a blast to hang out with and have a beer.
But that’s not the same kind of “nice” that Carter was
Carter was more of a hapless nice. He really meant well, but I think he was flumoxed by the Inside the Beltway mentality and politicking. Naive, almost.
checked.
answered.
didn’t you get an answer?
dear CV,
nice guy = genial
nice guy = truly cares about others and wants to help them
2 different definitions. not all nice guys are nice guys. unfortunately.
so much for my bait and trap. Cricket your arguments always have a personal anchor that apparently i’m not going to crack tonight. Thanks to everyone who screwed my little trap up….
OOTB. i still gathering the elements. i got distracted and made my way back here. check your email in a few
dear wicket,
did I screw up the trap? I am sorry if I did.
but next time, let me in on it, so I won’t screw it up.
and I will check my email. frequently.
dear C-V,
typical Texan? oh. no he isn’t. he isn’t a Texas at all.
he and his family are yankees who moved down here in the 60′s to bring Republican money and Republican power to a state that was at that time dominated by the Democratic party. They shrewdly assessed what the developing struggle of the civil rights movement would do to the Texas political climate, and moved in to take advantage of white Democrats that were alienated from their own party.
Dubya does love to put on the good ol’ Texas boy act, though. and it is an act. he lives in Dallas now, near SMU. I have ties to people at the school and people in the neighborhood. It’s an act.
Born July 6, 1946 (1946-07-06) (age 64)
New Haven, Connecticut
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush]
@OOTB it took awhile, but you should have an email in your inbox from me
OOTB, you don’t have to be born in Texas to be Texan, so kiss my ass
I like you, cricket, but I won’t kiss your ass. unless I am mistaken about your gender, my door doesn’t swing that way.
don’t have to be born in Texas to be a Texan?
lots of Texas flame wars on that one.
‘yes you do!’
‘no such thing as a naturalized Texan!’
‘if that’s true, then where’s the Texas Dept. of Immigration?’
‘but you have to be a natural-born Texan to be governor of Texas… Bush was not the legal gov.!’
I have fought this flame war many times, sometimes on one side, sometimes on the other. always a hoot.
btw, my favorite gift for newcomers? the “wasn’t born in Texas but got here as soon as I could” bumper sticker.
Someone who wins the Nobel Prize for peace is not someone who is going to please the war mongers, or those who want to lord it over others.
He was a Democrat. People hated the fact that he allowed Panama to start governing the canal before our lease was up. I think he was wise in a humble way that the aggressive did not understand.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, the aggressive in our country want a leader who swaggers, not one who thinks.
Bingo!
Actually I prefer one that stands rather than kneels. BIG DIFFERENCE! When your enemies are making Ballistic Missiles you might want to update your Ballistic Missile Defense, not bow down and beg them what can be done for them to stop their programs.
you would have to ask a Republican to get their take on it, but I personally believe it is because he was so good. kind, patient, caring; very much in love with, and faithful to, his wife. most touching, I think, was his quiet and persistent refusal to be ashamed of his ne’er-do-well brother. REAL family values. so they hated him. because they couldn’t tear him down.
and look what he’s done in HIS retirement: Habitat for Humanity. now worldwide.
Yes, we Republicans cant’ stand anyone with family values. Geez….
no, didn’t mean that.
just meant they didn’t want the competition of a Democrat that DID have family values. they wanted to portray themselves as the only ones who did… at that time. not so much now. altho they still seem to think they are better at it than the Dems, they no longer seem to believe that Dems have none at all.
he didn’t play with the local insiders, he brought his own cabal that he trusted and was effectively blacklisted from washington politics because of it.
Gerald Ford what just what this country desperately needed after Kennedy, the Viet Nam fiasco, the Agnew Bribery scandals, Watergate, and the Nixon resignation. We needed a bland Mr. 1950s to assure us, as a nation, that things were going to be OK. And I even, to some small degree, agree with his reasoning for pardoning Nixon, even if that made him effectively un-electable in the Bicentennial elections, and it was completely in character with his basic philosophy on what was required to heal a country that needed healing bad.
And the only one I don’t recognize is the one on the far left with glasses and the mustache.
that’s Roosevelt
And that’s sad.
teddy, not FDR
And what would the appropriate setting for recent Democrat Presidents be?
Probably the interior of a Whorehouse/Stripclub, with Carter probably looking the most uncomfortable.
Hey look, it’s Partisan Pulse again. Do you ever have thoughts that don’t involve hating Democrats?
or whores?
wait… that would be republicans (metaphorically, anyway)
classic case of projection, very common among neo-cons, religious nut cases, and frothy ding-bat trolls… standard practice is to accuse everyone else of doing your deepest, darkest wishes, then go out and follow through ‘because everyone else is doing it too’ or ‘they did it first’ so ‘they’re worse than me’
he who screams loudest that they are the most innocent, are usually the most guilty
Mommy, what are breasts???
I suggest that if you dont like ‘partisan’ you look elsewhere fort a forum to haunt.
Or are only people you disagree with the ones who are ‘partisan’ ???
Clinton slept with the Office help
Kennedy was a big time womanizer
LBJ had his strippers
Or do you believe all those things are myths made up by the ‘evil’ republicans??
A fair counter question would be, what did the Republicans do that was similar?
God I hope so. That would be a freaking awesome meeting! I can just see Bill, “Barack, Jimmy, the lap dances are on me.” What you’ve described is not repulsive, but pure freaking awesome. And why Democrats are more awesome than Republicans. So suck it, Trebek. Suck it long, and suck it hard.
Poor Jimmy would start lusting in his heart, and get all aflutter!
at least he lusted only in his heart (oh, come on, now, who doesn’t!)
unlike *sighs sadly* some other Dems…. and Reps.
My favorite part is that it’s a favorable portrayal of Nixon painted after he left office.
As if Lincoln and Teddy would have anything to do with those buffoons. What in insult.
It’s just a drawing, no reason to be insulted.
Actually I’m pretty sure Tddy would be real good friends with Reagan and Nixon, and probably Ike…. let me guess you only know who four out eight of those people are?
Umm also Ike was the most liked President (world wide) in history. Only man pretty much able to walk without the Secret Service without threat of being shot. But hey, you probably don’t even know who Ike is, and what he did for the world.
Also, Teddy FTW. That man was shot during a speech and the dude just got back up and kept speaking. He’s made of win.
Especially since th ebullet nicked his lung. That don’t make htem like that anymore.
Looks like Mitt Romney in the back there…
I’ve seen this Pic recently when I went to Gatlinburg Tenn. It’s done by Kinkead. Really great artist but not fond of Obama I guess.
Now this is something you don’t see everyday… unless you’re in hell.
Back when we had REAL presidents as opposed to today.
haha, what a childish thing to say. you were trying to be funny right?
Yes, real presidents like Nixon, who got the fvck out of office before he was thrown out. Or Ford, who did absolutely nothing except let Nixon off the hook. Or Reagan, who made life a lot easier for the rich while the middle class suffered. Or Bush I, who looks a lot better after Bush II. Seriously, Bush II made me miss his dad, and that’s saying something. Ike…history books show him favorably, so that’s all I can go on. Teddy was the toughest president ever. No beef with Teddy. Abe seems out of place there, despite technically being a Republican.
O.O I saw this Sunday in Fredricksburg, TX
You might concern there no chicks its a gaybar
Well, this is obviously not a bar, so it must be labeled a “sausage fest”.
Art is by Andy Thomas:
http://www.eleganthorsepictures.com/thomas-callin-blue-republican-presidents-playing-pool.html
The presidents in the picture are: (from left) Teddy Roosevelt, George W Bush, Gerald Ford (seated), George H.W. Bush, Dwight Eisenhower (seated), Ronald Reagan, Abraham Lincoln, Richard Nixon
He also made paintings of past Democratic presidents.
Thanks for the link. Here is the Democrat one you were talking about. (pre Obama)
http://www.eleganthorsepictures.com/thomas-true-blues1.html
I could remember all of them except Wilson. He’s the only one I didn’t recognize. Not a bad bunch if you ask me.
Where’s Obama in that painting? Oh yeah, no colors allowed =)
No Democrats allowed, dummy.
Okay, so… Why is Abe Lincoln, a president renowned worldwide for his personal integrity and honesty, standing across the table from Richard Nixon?
He was a Republican (the first) and he was probably there spinning an amusing yarn.
Read up on who he had in his cabinet and what they were like and Nixon pales by comparison.
Thanks, so are we! Now we don’t have to bug you guys on your comments section.
Oh, we don’t mind. Pop in anytime! Tomorrow is Commando Thursday and Friday we have our Cuddle Puddle.
*leaves a pile of squeezes for the PK peeps*
Commando Thursday? Well ’round here we have Boobie Friday. And Oral Tuesday.
I recognised all in both pics except the Democrat in very early 19thC/18thC dress with his back to the viewer, which one is that? By the way Im English and love history, sadly many people dont and no matter what you teach/show/tell it goes straight in one ear and out the other! (my family for instance.
) My older sisters (10 year gap) were taken to see Eisenhower and Churchill when our family lived near Chequers. but I have seen the Queen several times, met Earl Spencer (Diana’s Father) and stood on the steps of 10 Downing Street , by the way were some of you Texans also part of the group who stole it from Mexico and before that from the Native americans?
psst. These are Republicans. And Mexico tried to steal Texas from us. keep loving history though…..
also has anyone else noticed you can see the Democrat pic and another one of (Washington?) reflected in the glass on the republican pic??
Wow. Disregarding the fact it’s all Republicans, this is an awesome piece of artwork. The expressions and likenesses are excellent.
The 19th century man in the Dem picture is actually President Andrew Jackson, who won the battle of New Orleans a few days after the war of 1812 “ended” and became the most famous American general since Washington. Sure would be nice if the painter just put them all (and more) in one picture…
Andrew Jackson ,the one with the interesting marriage etc I know about him,just didnt recognise his back!and as to who was stealing texas? its a moot point.1812 the war were we captured Washington and burnt the White house!
If you ever need any help from the PK crew, we are a weathered bunch, but determined nonetheless.
Gee, they left out a few other Republican failures, like Herbert Hoover
“If you’re not liberal by 20, you’re heartless. If you’re not conservative by 40, you’re brainless.”
IF you are male. If you are female, then the older you get, the more ticked off and radical (to the left) you tend to get.
I’m assuming you’ve experienced this personally?
not one of those fools deserve to be in the same sentence as Abraham Lincoln, let alone a painting.
What is so funny? This picture is actually disturbing….yet disturbing…..
You actually can see it every day if you have lunch at Bullfeathers pub on Capitol Hill.