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Sorry I was touching myself. What did you want to know again.
Onanism the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.
Touching other people’s private parts. Um, doesn’t sex fall into that category? If so, most normal people think about it quite often.
WTF? Where’s my comment?? I put one up earlier this day that stated that we saw this picture on FailBlog before. Why was it deleted??
NO! NO! NO! don’t go there!
Touching? Or Punching?
At the moment, the latter seems fair and reasonable.
Whoa! *covers private parts*
Sorry to interupt this important line of questioning, but we’ve got breaking news from Shark Week!
All day, every day
Glenn Beck wants to touch the private parts of every American.
Beck, you racist pig. Why can’t you touch EVERYONE?
Sry Smurf. You won’t count until OutOfTheBox succeeds with his Texas Smurf Civil Rights Movement… which could be very touching, indeed.
“her”
thanks for mentioning my movement
Hey!! We’d rather not hear about your movements
damn! walked right into that one!
Which makes sense since he’s a private parts-head.
Rando, when you say something makes sense, does that make sense?
yeah he called him a d!ck head … come on man try a little it wasnt that hard to figure out.
I know right?
Smurfed penised that one up
Smarter than you, mate. Actually, he knows quite a bit more than a lot of people. Oh, here comes the endless rain of comments saying beck is retarded blah blah blah…ahh internet, why must i keep coming back for this?
Only the white ones.
Everyday. Next question?
Every day. Can’t keep my hands off the wife!
::barfs::
Thanks, a good puke always helps when I have a migraine . . .
Oh…My… *BARF*
Oh YUCK and a half *hurk*
*hurk*
It appears the more things change, the more they stay the same. *sigh*
Yeah, some people have no respect for others. So much for peaceful, reasonable conversation.
Yeah, “no respect” is right. You just wanted to make us all vomit. How nice is that?
WHY is it focusing on me? You barfed first, but it talks to ME. *shudder*
::hugs Ivan:: I don’t know, Ivan; I don’t know.
Shhhhh. It’s okay.
*perks up* Hey! Maybe it’s come to tell us where “Jew” is a slur in the bible!
*wishes there were a like button*
*recalls the few days that there was a like button*
*takes back the wish*
Let the massive, soft, steaming hot boobage perk you up Ivan. *straddles the PK girls*
Boooobage… *dreamy sigh*
This makes me think about touching other people’s “massive, soft, steaming hot” private parts….
In the words of Napoleon, “Idiots”.
Who, me? I’M not the one claiming “jew” is used as a slur in the bible. I’m just asking for the person who made the claim to cite it.
No, you’re being a childish idiot try to drag that out. If you don’t agree, fine. But draggin it out every chance you want to be a kid only shows how immature you are.
So where is Jew used as a slur in the Bible again? I don’t recall you ever giving a cite on that one.
Told you exactly where to look. If you disagree, so be it.
Indulge me. Where was it again? There have been too many pictures since then to dig through the archives when it would be much simpler for you to just tell me where it is in the Bible.
I indulged you before. I won’t do it again.
So that’s a no, you don’t have a cite. Duly noted.
If I thought there was even the slightest chance of an honest, sincere conversation with you, I’d do it in a heart beat. But all the crap in the last few months along with how you argued about the wording in scripture the last time, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that I’m going down that road again.
If you disagree with my opinion, fine. If I’m wrong, at least I’m trying my best to show respect.
So it’s an opinion that Jew is a slur in the Bible, as opposed to a provable fact? Now we’re getting somewhere.
Yes, one I got from an Israeli talking with my pastor. And from reading about the Hasid in NY discussing the same thing.
And if you’ll remember, I didn’t belittle anyone who doesn’t agree, or chooses differently.
So can you show me which verse caused him to form his opinion?
But that’s not what you told us. You said the the word “jew” was a slur used in the bible. Now you say it’s an opinion? For shame, sir. For shame. Your hell has a place for liars and prevaricators.
I could. But I wont. (and it’s more than one) As I said above, I completely doubt your sincerity. Look at what you said about me and my wife just today.
You CAN’T, so you won’t. There, fixed it for you.
Ivan, cricket said it’s an opinion. My reading, as your’s or any other’s is an opinion. No matter who you are.
It is based on the context of how others began using Judah’s name as a reference, mocking him for his shady business practices.
Ivan, I already did. Sorry to catch you in that lie. I told you what search terms to look for.
YOU said it was a fact, and in this very thread backtracked it down to an opinion. I imagine because there is no way to actually back yourself up with a citation to ANYTHING other than something your pastor’s cousin’s mother’s sister’s dog’s aunt told you once in a Bible study meeting.
Back yourself up with a citation, sir, or admit you’re a fraud.
I didn’t back track it down to opinion. You did. I’ve also never used the word “fact.”
As I said, any of us reading something like that have to judge things based on our own opinions.
I told you what to search, and even what to google for articles dealing with the issue. If you don’t like it, oh well.
The only fraud going on here is the spin you and Ivan are doing to continue the childhood drama.
I’m just asking you to provide a credible cite for your statement that Jew is a slur in the Bible, just as you would ask anyone else to do if they quote GWB as saying he’s a Nazi. Telling someone to do your work for you has never worked in the past, and you’ve gotten pissy about people telling you to do that. Providing a chapter a verse for your opinion (which you stated as fact a month ago) would clear the entire issue up, and lay the matter to rest.
Now, are you able to provide a cite, or are you just going to pretend that you’re too good for what you require of others?
I haven’t required anything of you. I simply will not get drawn into arguing over scripture when I have no reason to believe your intentions are an honest discussion.
I don’t believe it will lay anything to rest, as you will simply say that’s wrong and continue the childish games.
If you want to say I’m wrong, I’m fine with that. I know what I’ve read, and I know that I gave you enough information to find it for yourself.
It’s been a while since I’ve been here, and I don’t recall where you told me to search to find your proof. Would you please reiterate that for me so I can find where Jew is used as a slur?
In the original conversation about it!
Yes, but it’s been months, and I was only peripherally attached to that conversation. Would you mind giving me a refresher?
Yes. I would. See above comments about you lacking sincerity about this discussion.
It’s not my fault that your opinion of my question is that I lack sincerity. I just want to expand my knowledge and learn new things. If you’re unwilling to cite your examples, how can anyone learn new things?
I gave you the information before. You mocked it. I have no reason to believe you aren’t simply continuing the same behavior.
Today is a perfect example. Nothing but nastiness from you.
One would think that by repeatedly asking for some proof of your claim, stretching over WEEKS, one would be taken seriously. If we didn’t want to know, we wouldn’t be asking. I sincerely want to know where it says that “jew” is a slur. Just tell me. I’ve read the bible cover to cover. I’ve never seen “jew” used as a slur.
Well Ivan, I pointed out my reasoning for not giving you cites, again.
And considering that you can’t tell the difference between Christian commandments and the law given to Moses I’m not really surprised that you can’t find it.
I’ve read the Bible from cover to cover as well, and can’t find a single instance of Jew being used as a slur. Would you please (in all honesty and sincerity) point me to the correct verse so I can put my mind as ease?
I have Zero reasons to trust you.
And you have zero cites. Your move.
This is stupid.
JAC, please give ME the verse and the cites. You can even post it on my LOL page.
Our interactions have never lead to any arguing, any insults, or childish games. I was never part of the original conversation and have only heard about it through references on the other threads.
Therefore, you have every reason to trust ME as an objective viewer of the evidence and then we can discuss whether we all agree or not.
Sound fair?
I missed where this cite was the first time around as it was in the middle of a tl;dr thread. I want to know as well.
I missed the cite as well; what I’ve just done is searched for “Jew ” in the on-line concordance at {http://www.biblegateway.com/}, and read all 31 verses that returned a hit. I’d not consider any of them to be a slur, but that’s just my opinion.
I was never around for that conversation, but am curious, will you tell me the citation?
So the new rule is; if I don’t trust you, I don’t have to back up what I tell you. Got it.
Hey JAC, I have proof that your wife & kids are imaginary, and that you live in your parents basement. I also have proof that you’ve been abducted by aliens that anally probed you, and that you enjoyed it. But I don’t have to cite it for you, because I don’t TRUST you.
Considering I already gave the information and this is just another vain attempt at mockery, I refuse to go into it again.
Ivan, you have yet to give the cite the first time, so go ahead. All this nasty you keep showing just tells the whole world who and what you are.
WTF are you talking about? What cite? YOU’RE the one making the claim, you’re the one refusing to cite, and pretending that you already did.
Don’t you guys love the whiny “Oh, you are so nasty, the whole world sees you picking on poor little me!” LOL Actually, JAC, the whole world (because PK is THE WORLD! ZOMG!) is seeing you looking like a fool for not backing up your claim. Sorry sport. It is what it is.
Ivan, you’re making claims about my wife and children. With no “cite.” Idiot.
He’ll post a cite when you do.
I already did.
Can I have a cite for that? I can’t find it anywhere.
Why am I remind of “having eyes and cannot see?”
Maybe it’s the intentionally blinding of yourself?
Or it’s not there. Can you please point out where it is?
Do you consider your self wise?
Whether I do or not has no bearing on you posting a cite to a claim you’ve made. Chapter and verse, that’s all I’m asking for.
Actually, JAC, four people in this thread besides Cricket & Ivan want to know about this supposed cite. Jew is obviously not a slur. Just admit you’re wrong (I know how hard that is for you), and we can move on. Now, I’m sure people can use the word in a derogatory manner using proper tone of voice and inflection, but the word Jew itself is not a slur.
Admit. You’re. Wrong.
See Cricket, you say you’re actually interested in learning, then show that you are only interested in more mockery.
And Rando, I’ve already shown you were to look. I don’t care if 100 people ask now. Those who are here to mock would simply mock whatever answer I give.
And Dude, learn to read. I told you already that if you think I’m wrong, so be it.
I’m not going back through all that crap trying to find where you said it. Tell me again where to find where Jew is a slur. Otherwise you’re lying. Paws4thot already looked up all the instance of Jew in the Bible and said they didn’t look like slurs to him. So either you’re lying, or you have a rather skewed interpretation of the Bible.
And Paws is an expert? No. And here’s a point. I don’t care if you don’t believe me, nor have I ever cared. I didn’t make that big of a deal about it, it was Cricket and a few others.
All this rehashing is just more of the childish mockery.
Hi. I haven’t been on Pundit Kitchen for about a year and a half. I would love to know where “Jew” is used as a slur in the Bible. I’m sure someone would be more than happy to tell me?
You don’t care, but you keep responding.
*sniffs* Yeah. Sock.
I keep responding because it drives you crazy.
Not really. We just enjoy fvcking with you.
Great, then everyone is having fun!
What if we talked to a professor of theology and acquired their opinion? Would that settle it?
How about I drag a Jewish person in here and had them answer it, once-and-for-all?
{{http://www.beliefnet.com/Video/Faiths/Judaism/Personalities/Rabbi-Adin-Steinsaltz-A-Jews-Natural-State.aspx}}
^This rabbi uses the term “Jew” and it’s not a slur.
{{http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/index.aspx}}
“BELIEFNET.COM PAGE
Judaism
Beliefnet offers complete coverage of Judaism, Jewish life, and the issues that concern contemporary Jews. The Judaism page also offers ways for Jews to find and debate each other or ask questions about being Jewish on our Community.”
This is a good place for research, and I happened to start with their page on Judaism, described above as coverage of “issues that concern contemporary Jews”. Many of the articles are written by Jewish people; do you think they’d use a term found insulting to their ethnic and religious group?
“Dude, learn to read”: I’m pretty sure Rando didn’t ask if you cared if he thoughtyou were wrong, he insisted that you admit you were wrong.
Are you serious JAC? Mockey? What mockery?
I WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION. What “vain attempt of mockery” are you speaking of? I genuinelly want to know the cite. I even offered a private exchange through the cheez sites. Others who were not part of the discussion would like to know as well.
If you really have the proof of what you say, there should be no difficulty posting your proof 50,000 times if you have to. You said there is no problem if others disagree. Well, post the source with your interpretation and see if anyone disagrees. If they are childish about it, let them be childish.
Simply shrugging your shoulders and saying “I don’t feel like it cuz u were rlly mean 2 me” not only makes you seem like the childish one but that you also can’t back up your claims. Just post it for Christ’s sake and it’ll be over!!
*rant complete*
I didn’t say you were mocking, but that others were. And that anything I say or do about it now will simply be mocked that much more.
If you are really interested do the research yourself on the origination of the term Jew. It’s not that hard.
If you don’t agree with what I see, that’s fine. I already posted it, and the fact this conversation is coming up again for about the 10th time tells me that it wont end. No matter what I post or say.
What about posting a cite to the original conversation for those not actually in it so we’ll know what you’re talking about when you describe your evidence on how to find Jew being used as a slur. Can you at least do that? Or at least aknowledge Knowledge’s request for a private cite for his information?
I’ve already said no. It’s not that hard for you to check into it yourselves. Ask yourselves why the name Jew was used (after Judah) instead of a name after Jacob (from whom the name Israel comes from) or Abraham.
And Cricket, you were in the original conversation.
Learn to read. I never said I wasn’t.
Here’s the deal: In all seriousness, you’re coming off as an entitled jackwagon who doesn’t hold himself to the same standards he holds others. You refuse to post a simple cite, and have therefore lost every shred of credibility that you might once have had. This won’t die until you just post your cite.
I’m not going to do this over and over and over. Every time you feel like being a butt about it, you bring it up and demand a cite. Not happening.
If the actual information is that important to you, you would do your own research. The only thing you are interested in is taking any cite I provide and then declaring it wrong.
So if you’re going to say I’m wrong either way, why bow to your whims?
Because you’d expect no less of me if I made a claim that I can’t back up. You’d want a cite the same way I do. I’ve done the research and can’t find what you’re talking about, so I would like to see (and am genuinely interested in) where you got this from.
That’s just it. I did back it up in the original conversation. You weren’t interested in it then, so I have no reason to believe you are interested now.
And even if I were totally wrong on the source, it is used as a slur by many today. That to me is just one more reason to avoid it.
You repeatedly asking me for a cite when one was already given is not the same standards you use yourself. I’ve seen you post a cite, and when people disagreed/argued with you about, you told them to form their own opinions. As I am doing now.
I still haven’t seen a cite. It would be easy to post a verse or ANYTHING where it occurs in the Bible (which was the original claim), but you haven’t done that.
A quick Google search showed nothing about “Jew” being a slur. It did show a couple informal surveys on a couple forums asking if it is one with the almost unanimous result being “no, it’s what you call a Jewish person.”
If you know the original claim, then you know where to find it. And that to me says you are lying all along.
I’ve never said that the Bible says “Jew is a slur,” but rather told you where to search and look at the original Aramaic at how the term was first used to refer to Judah. (instead of referring to the sons of Jacob/Israel)
Rando, “a quick google search.” Nuff said.
If Jew were a racial slur, then a Google search surely would have hit on something rather quickly, don’t you think? Especially considering how often its used. I would think that would actually be a pretty big deal.
Actually, I haven’t been around all that much on here lately because I’ve been busy… but even I remember you stating quite clearly and repeatedly that the Bible claims Jew is a racial slur.
I said it was in the Bible, not that it “claims” it. Big difference.
So you are saying that if it’s in the Bible, It isn’t a claim made by the Bible. Using that very Logic, the Bible does not claim that Jesus is the son of God. Nor does it claim that God flooded the world or had Noah build an Ark. I would also believe that there are then no claims that the world was made in six days and then had the seventh day for rest.
Are you aware of what the word claim actually means?
Ok, back to your word twisting trickery?
I’ve said it’s there. Not that the Bible states the words “Jew is a slur,” but rather that the source of it being used as a slur is in the Bible.
No, not twisting words at all, actually USING them. I know you have a very very difficult time understanding that. I’m sorry. I would say I’ll go slow, but since this is typed, I can’t adjust for your individual reading speed.
So by your own admission right there. Jew is not a slur as presented by the Bible because the Bible never claimed it was a slur, thus negating the entirety of your previous statements and invalidating anything else. Because if the Bible does not CLAIM it is a slur, than the supposed source of it is not, in fact, there.
How much do you actually read your own holy book. Your argument has holes in it large enough to fly a 747 through.
I have spent the better part of my afternoon trying to find this. I cannot find anything. I would really like to know exactly what you are talking about without having to go hunting for it. I already did that and I’m turning up empty handed. Before you even start with the “sock” calling, you can halt it right there. My icon is the same bird that is on my fb page. We have some of the same people friended so I know you’ve seen Sheldon. I sincerely want to know what you are talking about. I’ve never heard that claim before and would like to make my own conclusion.
Just FYI Kestrel, I have an unabridged OED if you find anymore words you want to ‘twist’. I mean, the OED is the very source of *ahem* twisted words. Er…that is, I think it is. Based on JACs definition of twisted words.
Krissee I recognize that you aren’t a sock. And I’ll tell you the same thing. There isn’t a direct verse that says “Jew is a slur,” but rather that you need to look at how the term became used for the nation of Israel. Judah wasn’t the father of the nation, Jacob/Israel was. And how it became a slur to mock the business practices of anyone, Hebrew or not.
And KM, you are taking my words out of context to make them say what I did not. I’ve said the evidence is there, not that it’s a direct statement as you and others keep claiming.
So… you are trying to claim the entymology(probably spelled wrong here) of the word Jew is racist? Sorry, the language defies that quite pointedly. Look it up.
It does to you, it does not to me.
No nasty or bitter when I ask this, since you think differently. Where does the usage of “to Jew” or other such slurs come from?
JAC, from what I have read, the reason for the term “Jew”, is because the tribe of Judah was the last out of Israel, is the tribe with the lineage of King David, out of whom the Messiah is supposed to come, and is also the tribe where most of modern Jewish people come from. I found nothing of a derogatory nature. This is why I would like an exact site for what you are referencing, because I have been unable to find it. I looked at the Aramaic term and the information I found about it is that it was translated incorrectly. Still nothing derogatory. What am I missing?
The term existed long before David or the exodus. And I’ve stated that it’s what myself and some others are discussing. And if I/we are wrong it’s not that I’m complaining or belittling someone who uses the term. In fact, it’s easy to use it because so many others do. I said before that I prefer to use Hebrew/Israel out of respect.
While saying that you “jew someone” is certainly derogatory, it doesn’t make the entire name “Jew” a slur. You can use anything in a derogatory manner. That doesn’t make the entire word a slur. I could say “Bob is such a stupid rando.” But that doesn’t make my name a slur.
And how did “jew someone” become a slur? That’s the entire point.
No. You have no point at all. Unless your point was that you’re an insufferable toerag, that one you made. A word can be used in a derogatory manner but that does not make the word inherently derogatory. Since I used large words that you may not understand I’ll explain with an example. I can use the word “ghetto” as it is intended. Such as, a description of a densely populated slum area of a city inhabited by a socially and economically deprived minority. Or I could say, “that girl dresses so ghetto” which immediately makes the term derogatory. The word in itself is an acceptable word, it’s the usage of such that makes it offensive. That is the point that escapes you.
Why Jane, thank you so much. You just proved my point. I doubt that was your intent, but you did.
Judah had shady business practices, and people began to use the term jew in a derogatory manner. There wasn’t a jew in the beginning, such as the ghetto refers to. Judah was a son of Jacob/Israel. (and practice had been to name a people after the father, not the oldest son) Jew began being used as a reference to all hebrews to mock Judah’s business practices.
JAC, still not finding anything. Could you please give me a link, a website, something to find what you are referencing?
No I did NOT prove your point. Do you even read anything else but your own drivel? No one is denying that you can use the word “Jew” in a derogatory way. You can use anything in a derogatory way. I can, in fact, insult Ivan by telling him he’s acting like a total JAC if I wanted to. Pompous douche you may be simply using your name as an insult doesn’t make JAC a slur. You said that you “never” use the word Jew because the WORD is derogatory. IT IS NOT. Anymore than the word “ghetto” is derogatory. You have been unable to prove that the WORD is offensive.
Exactly what Jane said. Connotation is not the same as denotation. And the denotation of Jew is not a slur. The connotation can be derogatory, but it’s still not a slur. And frankly, I’d think it would be insulting to Jews to say that “Jew” is a slur. It’d be like saying “Christian” is a slur just because some people hate Christians and think calling someone that is insulting.
I’ve never read the Quran, so I didn’t have a dog in that fight. Try again, sport.
waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait.
You’re willing to put up a two day refusal rather than put up a word and two or three numbers?
Logic plzkthx.
Some one get the Febreeze.
Yeah. The only reason it keeps getting brought up is so that any way I answer it will be mocked. I gave the information already, so I’m not doing it again.
That may or may not have been the right reply button.
So you’ve spent two days with your arms crossed and your lip out?
My kid doesn’t even refuse his veggies for that long.
Problem with your analogy. I’ve already eaten the “vegetables.”
Someone please get one of those little tree fresheners or something. This sock stinks bad.
And yet the fact remains.
It is day two and you could have saved yourself a lot of face by posting a book, a chapter, and a verse or two.
Ok, I did the deed, and found it back on page 35 (you cretins can thanks me later with cookies) in the 4chan poster LOL.
Here is JAC calling them “Jews”
{{http://punditkitchen.com/2010/08/11/political-pictures-desert-troll/#comment-380591}}
And here is JAC saying that he never calls them “jews” he calls them “Israel”.
{{http://punditkitchen.com/2010/08/11/political-pictures-desert-troll/#comment-380718}}
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is where JAC claims “Jew” is used in the bible as a slur.
{{http://punditkitchen.com/2010/08/11/political-pictures-desert-troll/#comment-381414}}
But let me quote it right here for you!
“No where in the Bible (or the Torah and Talmud) is the word jew or jewish used, except for a slur.”
Say goodnight, Gracie.
Oh, and feel free to use any of those links to that LOL to try to find a place where JAC posted a cite of any kind. And good luck.
I told you what to search for, that is the cite. I’ve never stated this verse or that verse. But rather to look into the context in how it was used. And I stated that the term has been used ignorantly by many, including when it was translated into English. I told you to look at the Aramaic, and who first used the term. Plain and simple.
That’s not what a cite is.
Christ. Go back to high school. They teach this stuff you know.
Considering you socky people want to argue what the meaning of this word or that word is when I did give scripture, I figure the best is for those honestly interested to find it for themselves. It’s not that hard.
Answer me this, where did the term come from, and why is it used as a slur in modern times?
No.
Don’t you change the subject.
“It’s there, just look for it” is /not/ citing.
I’m not arguing the meaning of a word.
I’m telling you what a cite is.
And I’ve repeatedly stated that when I have tried using a direct cite, you socky people simply claim that it doesn’t mean this or that. So instead of arguing over this or that verse I gave the search terms to find it, if someone is really interested.
Now, where did the term come from?
Ivan just proved that you gave no scripture.
Thus you have to citing.
The crayola are you talking about.
But if it will make you happy: It originated from the name of Judah, one of the twelve sons of Jacob.
Instead of whining that they keep hurting your feeling every time you “try” to post the scripture, why don’t you, you know, POST the scripture?
And just tell me why it would originate with Judah and not Jacob/Israel? You’re still not answering as to how it became used as a slur in any time.
And I said it was an indirect site.
LINK TO ORIGINAL jew=slur “flame-war” for anyone wanting to “catch-up” and any cites missed and whatnot
http://punditkitchen.com/2010/08/11/political-pictures-desert-troll/#comment-380498
clickable link i mean
Hey.
Sweetie.
Focus.
Right here.
Talk religion with someone who cares.
There is no such thing as indirect citing.
They call that either plagiarizing, or bullshi–ing.
And if you so claim that you were “indirectly citing,” you were not, in fact, “citing.”
For the love of God, just admit you’re wrong! You are completely up against the wall, every argument you’ve given has been eradicated, and you’ve got NOTHING. Seriously, dude, your stubbornness is nothing short of ridiculous. Ivan, Cricket, Wicket, Kestrel, GiganTicky, Krissee, and I are right. You are wrong. End of story. Just admit you’re wrong, and this whole thing goes away.
Radno, read. If you think I’m wrong, fine. My opinion is different than yours. I didn’t insult anyone, but rather am doing my best to show respect.
Hey sock, turn left 3 streets down. Oh, what do you mean you can’t do that unless I name the actual street?
We aren’t talking about your opinion.
We’re talking about your credibility.
That’s not a street you idiot, it’s a road. See, you’re wrong.
Is that really your response?
Hello.
Credibility.
You have none.
Give it up.
Credibility demands from a sock. Whoda thunk?
Ad hominum from a baseless windbag who is clearly and inarguably UNABLE to provide any evidence of anything previously claimed.
I have a deal for you.
If you CITE the /exact/ scripture you refer to for all those in attendance, I will proclaim my defeat to the four winds and take back everything I said.
Oh, wait.
You can’t.
Prove me wrong, I dare you.
Here and now.
Don’t talk around or out of this. You either have the scripture or you don’t. We poor inferior interwebbers are clearly incapable of seeking the information you speak of, and kindly ask that you give us insight.
Do it.
Cite.
Go.
Awww, the sock is getting angry. SOCK SMASH.
I’ve clearly stated that there isn’t a specific scripture stating “jew is a slur” and never claimed that in any post. I have stated that it was used in a derogatory fashion, and that it can be found in the stories about Judah and the founding of Israel.
I’ve also told you that (and you can look up thread from the original post) that when I do try to post specific scriptures, you and your sock friends simply try to argue the context of specific words. Such as the whole “fight” means “invaders” scripture that got the entire thread going.
If you were half as honorable as you are pretending to be, you wouldn’t be hiding behind a sock.
Wrong answer.
You’re right. you never said that there was an “exact scripture.”
But you never once stated that there wasn’t one, either.
My proof (that I’m so kindly providing):
“Cricket says:
September 8, 2010 at 7:07 pm
So where is Jew used as a slur in the Bible again? I don’t recall you ever giving a cite on that one.
Justacarolinian says:
September 8, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Told you exactly where to look. If you disagree, so be it.
Cricket says:
September 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Indulge me. Where was it again? There have been too many pictures since then to dig through the archives when it would be much simpler for you to just tell me where it is in the Bible.
Justacarolinian says:
September 8, 2010 at 7:14 pm
I indulged you before. I won’t do it again.”
Cricket askes for a citation, and you claim that you have “indulged” us already. Indulged us about what? This conversation leads me to conclude, quite logically, that you are speaking of the citation Cricket is asking for. If you can’t connect the dots, heres the line: You claimed that you indulged us with this citation.
Oh and by the way.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
I give up. Too much posting which will give me a headache. It’s clear that JAC has either no or lost the citation that Jew is a slur, therefore I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s wrong.
I went to the original flame war. tl;dr
Okay, this isn’t an opinion discussion. You made a statement presenting Jew is a slur as empirical fact. Facts are not opinions. The FACT is Jew is not a slur. To Jew someone is much like to Gyp someone (which is the proper spelling, since it’s short for Gypsy) The term comes from Jewish people back in the days were often money changers. The profession was deemed dirty (don’t know why, but it was) and the Jews, being a lower class and kicked around by just about everyone were finding that was about all they could get work in. It started to become the case that the Jews, having control of the currency started to find how much something was valued. The Jewish started bargaining for lower and lower prices. Oftentimes in the barter societies that they were, the Jewish were taken at their word for the value of an item. After all, no one knew money like the Jewish, they were the bankers. But when people started to see that the Jewish were getting extremely good deals on everything, and generally being tight with their money and paying less than it was truly worth, that is where the phrase “I got jewed” comes from.
Learn your history.
@Kestrel
If you’d like to know why money changing was seen as a dirty business, it’s because in Renaissance Italy the Catholic Church enforced a ban on charging interest for Christians lending money to other Christians. To get around this the earliest Christian bankers like the Medici family lent money to Jews who would then lend money back to Christians and everyone was able to charge interest on the transactions. This kept happening until the Medicis literally bought their way into the Papacy. This was also why Jews were allowed to work in finance industry when they were restricted from working in so many others.
Everyone of course saw right through the scam and thought it was unfair as it went against the ‘spirit’ of Papal law (but didn’t technically break the law) henceforth money lenders have been seen as scum-sucking slimeballs
wow, so the citation we were all waiting for was a vague directive to do our own research a la Glenn Beck? That’s what we were waiting on?
“Obama is a Socialist, Marxist, baby-eater! Go read what the founding fathers wrote, it will make it clear!”
If “jew” is a slur, why did you use it?
Justacarolinian says:
August 12, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Yes, those are commandments to the Jews Cricket.
*GASP* After years of using a word, I made a mistake and used it, even after making the decision to put my best efforts into not using it. *SOBS*
I love how the same people who were screaming about words being up to personal interpretation (when defending 1 of 189 verses of the quran commanding killing) turned right around and attack me for reading something to the best of my abilities, with the intentions of showing respect to a people/nation that gets smacked around all the time. Pat yourselves on the back.
I’ve never read the Quran, so I didn’t have a dog in that fight. Try again, sport.
esus!Come and exorcise that troll. Art of Trolling says feedest not yon trolls!
‘Idiots’ is only one word. Just sayin’.
uh uh, kb. les idiots. n’est pas?
Mais oui, cherie, tu sais que je voudrais embrasser tes beaux seins, si j’étais là, ou vous étais ici…
Tu etais!
J’ai ton amour et je veux ton revenge
J’ai ton amour, I don’t wanna be friends
Vous les gens sont tous fous, vous savez?
I’d suggest as much distance between a JAC comment and an Ivan or Cricket comment. Just a suggestion. And if I make a mistake or can’t win an argument, i’d accept defeat either by admitting it or just not replying anymore.
reply fail, but everyone knows who I’m talking to.
and put *as possible* after the word ‘distance’….i’m so stupid!!!
Do you like to pull her panties off slowly, then go blibble blibble blibble in her tummy button before heading south for the win?
I know I do.
I literally LOL’d.
And then I threw up a little in my mouth. *hurk*
*hot asian giggles*
You naughty boy Keithy, have you been sleeping with JAC’s wife again?
At first I was like :-O
Then I LOL’ed.
I think it was the “tummy button”. No way that’s not hilarious.
Yeah, that’s one I’ll have to remember.
*heard in your British accent and made all the more awesome*
You know, I have never ever said anything to you before about your disgusting comments, but have you absolutely NO EFFING RESPECT FOR YOUR WIFE???? No man who has any respect for his wife would make such comments in a public forum. Some things are meant to be private.
*cradles mabsba’s babas*
it’s ok, hun, he’s just leaking homophobia again.
Actually, we’ve come to the conclusion that since it casually “brings her up” so often, she doesn’t really exist. It lives in it’s parents basement and pretends it has a “hot asian wife” and a few fat children. It’s rather sad, really…
Dont’ forget “makes up slurs from the Bible while in the basement with imaginary hot Asian wife and made-up kids” Ivan. That’s the important part!
Brings her up?? That reminds me of the old joke about a Cannibal couple who decided to bring up their kids
and comments here are meant to be public.
what are his wife’s private parts like to the touch?
We suspect they feel rather like inflated vinyl, and her expression always always looks like this.
:-O
Considering the comments around here? LOL. Instead of all the garbage that IS in this forum, I simply imply that I have a happy marriage, and that I’m dedicated to keeping ALL sexual relations with my wife. Even the apostle Paul talked about good sex in a marriage.
You have the right to your opinion, but I personally think it matches the chip on your shoulder.
this defensiveness is what attracts so much attention. that and the matter of fact type of posts. i thinks it’s inevitable, some people around here are going to try and play with that if you let them.
*takes a drink* I totally forgot what rule that was. It’s been a while since we’ve gotten to do that.
Seriously, dude, if you boink your wife 10 times a day, more power to you. We don’t wanna know about any of it.
Well I’m 23 and I boinked a coworker on my birthday. Since I’m younger than all of you, which will likely make me less cautious when I speak, can we talk about that?
All I can say to that is…NICE!
oh and by the way, YOU’RE FIRED!
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Wait…which people?
drink up rando!!
WHY?? Why would it do that? Is it just that cruel? WHY? *lays his head on Shorty’s chest and weeps*
*strokes ivan’s hair*
it’s ok darling… everything will be ok. yes, it is that cruel, but you’ve got my boobies now. all will be better.
::shoves shortright away from Ivan and pulls her hair::
I was hugging and comforting him!
Ladies, there is enough Ivan to go around…
But Ivan! ::stomps foot::
I was just about to rip her clothing! Sheeesh.
Oh…well…carry on then.
iam in your room touching your stuff
eww. stop touching my stuff.
Obviously, that question was meant for Bill O’Reilly.
And Bill Clinton.
And Ted Haggard.
How about H. Rider Haggard.
it just so much depends on which person it is.
John McCain never, Sarah Palin…. uhhhhhhh… Sarah Palin again, again
Think, think, think, oh dear, think, think, Okay pictures certain buff males. It happens but since I can’t touch I try to think of other things.
How often do I think about touching other people’s private parts? Is constantly an option here?
Actually, I only think of touching others private parts once a day. It starts when I wake up and ends when I fall asleep. And then I dream about the same thing.
The better question is, how often do I not think of touching other people’s private parts?
I think about it every time I see Shepard Smith on Fox News.
An Obama Expose` ???
Exactly once a day. Starts about when I wake up. Ends roughly when I fall asleep.