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Those Are My Choices?

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  1. itsybitsy says:

    Well we know the media has tried the “rub vigorously” part already.

  2. Squiggly says:

    *hums I’m a Little Tea Pot*

    If the lamp doesn’t come with a Genie voiced by Robin Williams I don’t consider it a real lamp.

  3. paciFIST says:

    That’s SO weird. I could have SWORN Obama wasn’t up for re-election for another 2 years. What year is it?

    • Nimeth says:

      It’s not about Obama, it’s about the mid-term elections for Congress.

      • I Like Peanut Butter says:

        Which mid-term elections tend to be about th current sitting President. Which (looking at Obama’s approval rating) does not smell good for the Democrats. The fact that the Republicans (who fvcked up for 8 years) are out for less than 4 years and are so close in the polls if not leading, does not bode well. I know my couterparts on this baord are holding out “Hope” the Republicans don’t get that many victories, but really with Obama’s “Back-seat” comment, it looks real $hitty for the Dems.

        • Nimeth says:

          Personally I think it’s goofy that mid-terms are about the sitting President when you’re actually voting for Congress. But I don’t think that’s going to change, so I suppose whatever works for people.

          Though I do think paciFIST’s comment about Obama being up for re-election a bit stupid, though I maybe could have phrased my resonse a bit better. Meh.

          • I Like Peanut Butter says:

            I’ll forgive you this time, but next time you’re in Rando’s basement, with the monkies and the goats.

          • paciFIST says:

            Hi, welcome to the internet. The first chapter of your Internet Comprehension Handbook is on Sarcasm. Please re-read this chapter. Thanks.

            In other words I actually AGREE that it’s silly the midterms are “about” the President. Next time if you need it spelled out, just ask!

        • Hope (for change in Nov) says:

          It’s hardly just the “back-seat” comment that has led to the democrats problems.

    • satanslittlehelper says:

      WOW!!! That’s exactly what Conservatives said when Obama did nothing but campaign against Bush (who wasn’t running in ’08) and nothing was said about it.

      Now that the Conservatives are doing the same thing againts the Anointed One it is now an issue?!?

      Flame on.

      • JD says:

        That was because several of McCain’s positions caused some people to feel that McCain term 1 was going to be as if it were Bush term 3.

        • Whatever says:

          Your other assessment is spot on about why Obama is relevant in the mid-terms, but this one is way off. All during the primaries the media loved John McCain, they did all kinds of stories praising him. As soon as the primaries were over he started being compared to Bush. Every Republican knows that McCain is as far from Bush as you can get without leaving the Republican Party. In fact, the (R) behind his name was the biggest thing he had in common with Bush. Most of his political views were more in line with Obama than Bush.

      • TeleMonk says:

        Except that much of the abomination that Obama signs has to come first from the Legislature. Controlling the legislature will greatly diminish the socialist agandas tools to ruin America.

    • JD says:

      The reason it matters is that if voters supported Obama, they’ll give him the Democratic members in Congress he needs to push his policies. If they don’t support him, they’ll vote for the opposition so it’s harder for him to push his policies.

      • Duke says:

        Beat me to it. :D

        JD is precisely right, paciFIST: if the people like what the president is doing, they use the mid-term elections to sort of help him along by stacking the congress with like-minded individuals. Thus, if the majority of the people like what the president is doing, then the balance of his term is spent a Congress that is more or less rubber-stamping the president’s plans and helping him move to his remaining goals.

        If the people don’t like what he’s doing, then they attempt to hinder his progress as much as possible by giving him a congress stacked with people inclined to be more critical of his proposals (and, as a matter of course, they tend to be from the other party).

        This is why there is always such a flurry of panic from whichever side loses when a new president goes into office with a congress already filled with those of his party: the fear is that no one _really_ knows what sort of president he is going to be, yet party politics are in place to let him jump in unfettered before the public gets any sort of “test drive.”

        While a lot of younger people put the panic over the late part of Obama’s campaign down to all sorts of things: conservative fear; racism; religious fervor– whatever, the fact is that the entire blow-up is pretty typical of what happens any time a new president moves into office with a Congress already loaded in his favor: there is no way to really “check” him for at least two years.

        This time around, should Republicans make significant gains, they will be able to stymie him somewhat, but will still lack the numbers to really pull off the sorts of things they are tossing around in their rhetoric. Given that, I find a lot of the Democrat concern about the possibilities of Republicans stopping him outright a bit unfounded. Even if every single seat up for grabs goes Republican (highly unlikely), at the very best they will simply be able to slow him down a bit, and perhaps manage to strip a few riders or make him focus more closely on more centrist issues.

        Even if the conservatives have the landslides they are expecting, it’s not going to be be the absolute crushing blow that –

        I’m sorry. I meant to stop after simply explaining why midterms are pretty much always about the sitting president. :(

        • paciFIST says:

          It’s cool, most people on this section of ICHC seem to really miss writing essays and providing demonstrations of knowledge. Despite the fact that I already stated that I agreed that it’s “about” Obama.

  4. Frank says:

    Looks like this one slipped past the censors.

  5. Anon says:

    1. Another bailout.
    2. Cash for clunkers.
    3. First-time homeowners’ tax credit.
    4. A nationalised health care system.

    One heck of a genie! I’ve got four just with those!

    • Philly Mom says:

      6. protection from credit card scams
      7. boosted higher ed grants
      8. stimulus for deteriorating roads & bridges
      9. stepped down Iraq, working harder in Afghanistan

      There’s another four for ya! Go Genie, Go Genie, GO!

      • Philly Mom says:

        oops… I re-arranged my list and the number “5″ fell off my screen.

        *looks under monitor* …where is that thing…
        *shuffles under desk* … oh well.

        Better go get my coffee. That’ll help.

        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

          5. He’s a Muslin socialist born of Hawaii, Kenya who can’t talk without a teleprompter out to take away our guns so that he can open the borders to allow all of the Mexicans to take the land away from White Americans, and give himw a regular supply of drug runners.

          **whistles as he walks away**

          • Dude says:

            I see wat your did thar.

          • Nelson says:

            Then, we’re coming for your women!

          • CC DeVille says:

            Well I don’t know what a “muslin” is, but as far as Obama’s religious beliefs, he is a Catholic. He was raised by Rich white Catholics in a Suburb of Chicago, and didn’t know his “muslin” father well enough to attend his funeral. And that is even irrelevant, as his father lost faith, and became an atheist. And As far as hailing for “Hawaii, Kenya”. I’m fairly certain that Hawaii is a state in the US, and Kenya is a country in Africa. The part about the Mexicans was just so stupid that I refuse to elaborate, I won’t degrade myself to that level.

          • Snake says:

            Obama’s a fabric.

            Now, when you type on the internet, be sure to spell every word correctly – using an internet search tool is a big help – otherwise, you look like a prat.

            Unless that was the intended effect…

        • Whatever says:

          I have a serious question for you. If the ban on “flavored” cigarettes had included menthol, as many anti-smoking groups advocated, do you think Obama would have lost or gained support from African-American voters? The FDA is supposed to study the menthol in cigarettes next year to see if it should be banned, so it could become an issue unless they hold off on the decision until after his re-election.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/business/13tobacco.html

          • Whatever says:

            Before anyone cries racism please read the statistics. 75% of African-American smokers smoke menthol cigarettes, so they would be the most effected by such a ban. 96-97% of African-Americans who voted, voted for Obama. It’s a legitimate question.

          • Duke says:

            This is not a racist comment; this is a legitimate question for which you might have an answer, seeing as how you appear to be better versed on the subject:

            With the ban on flavored cigarettes, why was there not also a ban on flavored cigars? I’m a non-smoker myself, but have never had an issue with smoking as a whole. But those cheap flavored the cigars the kids like so much lately (you know: the ones that do _not_ cover the scent of weed, no matter what they’d like to believe. :D ) are just nauseating.

            I don’t know if it’s one of the stickers used or what, but they’re nausea-inducing, having an effect on my equilibrium (and stomach) not unlike certain cleaning chemicals when used without good ventilation. I don’t even smoke them; just smelling them does this. There has to be something in there even worse than tobacco, I would think. :?

            • Whatever says:

              I agree. It seems they pick and choose where to enforce this. Of course, many people believe cigars have been shielded by politicians because they themselves enjoy them. I can’t imagine any self-respecting politician smoking a grape-flavored Swisher Sweet. I am currently a casual smoker, less than a pack a day and trying to quit, and I quit smoking menthol because they made my lungs hurt more so than regular cigarettes. I know a lot of people who only smoke menthol and they would be very p.o.’ed if they had that taken away from them by government mandate. I know a few people really strapped for cash who smoke the fruit-flavored-filtered cigarillos and they make me nauseous just being around them. I can imagine how bad it must be for non-smokers to be around.

      • Hope (for change in Nov) says:

        10. A 2 year deficit that exceeds all 8 years under Bush including both wars. Projections say he will increase the total national debt of all prior presidents by 50% in just 4 years. Apparently that wish was to SPEND all the money in the world.
        11. Invalidated the entire political process by bypassing the check and balance system to pass an a health care system even his own party couldn’t agree on.
        12. Ended rampant unemployment growth in just 4 months with massive stimulus spending with “shovel ready jobs.”
        13. Single handedly destroyed the democrats chance to retain power for the next 2 years and possibly his chance at a second term.

        • sfHeath says:

          10. Okay, so huh? Somehow, in the middle of 10% unemployment, the Obama administration was supposed to pay off the Bush administration’s two wars, tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and debt levels not seen since WWII? And to completely clear the deficit in under two years? Isn’t the US economy way to big of a ship to turn around that quickly?

          • Hope (for change in Nov) says:

            Clear the yearly deficit? No, not at all. I even expected an increase. But instead he multiplied it by almost 4 times.

            The entire Bush deficit for his second term was only (and I groan at this) 1.2 trillion. Obama spent that and more in his year.

            The deficit in Bush’s final year shot up to a record 438 billion, but Obama destroyed that record with 1400 billion year 1 and is estimated to go 1.3 trillion in year 2.

            In just 4 years, Obama spending levels could concievably increase the nation debt created by every President (Bush+Clinton+Bush+Reagan+ Carter…..) by 50%.

            And most importantly, the impact of all this spending is highly questionable.

        • sfHeath says:

          11. Didn’t the president sign a bill that had been approved by both houses of Congress? How is that “bypassing the check and balance system”? Isn’t that what the check-and-balance system *is*?

        • Nelson says:

          Did Bush actually ever include the cost of his wars in the official budget?

          • Hope (for change in Nov) says:

            Yes, they were included. Last time I looked, and it has been a while, the Bush cost of these were around a trillion.

      • TeleMonk says:

        Except you might not realize that in the non-disney versions of genies they actually are pretty evil and twist the ‘wishes’ into something that the one who summoned the genie doesnt want.

        That sounds like Obama and the othe Socialists much more accurately.

        What good are all the thing you list if they cant be funded when the economy is largely destroyed.

        • kurisu7885 says:

          You could have just ended that after that bit aboutr the genie, but no, again you had to show you little obsession and make it about the president again.

          • CC DeVille says:

            I love that Socialism has become a hot button word that stupid people (note, I’m not saying conservatives are stupid, just the tea party “socialism” puppets) can spew at liberals to make themselves feel smart. Perhaps if you actually knew what socialism was, you would realize that the term is almost always misused, and irrelevant.

  6. Dan says:

    Pretty sure the tea pot is inaccurate, as the name comes from the 1773 act of throwing British-supplied and taxed tea into Boston harbor, ergo no need for a tea pot

    • Nimeth says:

      Such a waste of proper tea it was too!

      Though I do understand the reasoning behind doing it.

      • Yo Mutha says:

        There was still plenty of tea around, both legally and illegally imported.

        Actual news coverage of the event is a bit spotty,
        but it seems to have happened under cover of darkness,
        was unpopular with many folks in the area who wanted their damned tea TYVM!,

        and it was considered by many a simple act of political vandalism by rowdy over-educated young men who did’t recognize the importance of a good strong cup.

        Oh, and they dressed as tribal natives so that if anyone saw them, they’d blame the locals. Nice.

  7. TeleMonk says:

    Common utility versus delusion/fantasy….

    Ordinary folk have no problem choosing once they find out what Obama really is.

    • kurisu7885 says:

      The president?

      • Nelson says:

        The item on the right is an oil lamp. (It never contains a magical genie in THIS reality.) The “common utility” of such an item is to shine light into the darkness.

        • I Like Peanut Butter says:

          Then why does it have an Obama sign on it. He seems to just shovel BS onto the airways. :-)

          • Nelson says:

            At least BS can be useful for helping crops grow… or burning to keep a dwelling warm. Tea? …Just dried leaves, boiled. Hardly enough to get anyone toned up, calmed down, invigorated or anything…

        • kurisu7885 says:

          I was replying to his “What Obama really is” statement. It seemed to imply that Obama wasn’t the current president.

    • CC DeVille says:

      So common utility states that Barack Obama is a Communist Antichrist bent on running his own country into the ground, and allowing all of “them wetbacks and muslins” destroy what the glorious white man has strove to built? Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a jackass, and in my local elections I, a moderate liberal, am voting Republican/ Independent. In my estimation, the system that works best is a liberal congress, and conservative president, followed by a liberal president, and a conservative congress. At any rate, my point is how is the Tea Party the voice of reason by any standard?

      • itsybitsy says:

        How is the simple request: “SPEND LESS!!!” not a reasonable request of a government going broke and indebting your children and grandchildren? *shakes head* Don’t tell me you are actually fooled by all the lies about Tea Party racism?

        • Nelson says:

          “Spend Less” doesn’t seem top be a concern when the GOP is in power. (I recall quite a few of the declaring that “deficits don’t matter”.) And, they never have good suggestions about whom exactly they want to cut services for… or how that will actually help more than hurt.

          • itsybitsy says:

            No, it is a concern, it’s just that this administration is spending so much more with no hint of stopping. Is it really the Tea Parties part to suggest what to cut? I don’t think it’s their job. And yes, it may hurt, but spending cuts when you are living outside your means always hurt at first.

            • Nelson says:

              There’s been a lot of spending because a lot of “stuff” had to be bought in the hopes of averting an even greater catastrophy than what we see today. And, the numbers seem to indicate that it has done some good, even if it hasn’t fixed everything. WRT ideas – I’m talking about the politicians they want us to elect. The only ones with actual ideas about what to cut have cRaZy ideas about what to cut. Department of Education? Really? Department of weights and measures? Really??

  8. CC DeVille says:

    I’m not “fooled” by “lies” I’m paraphrasing a comment from one of your tea party boys at the top of the page.

    • Duke says:

      I may well be mistaken, but I believe (going by the choice of the word “muslin” here) that what you are actually paraphrasing is a sarcastic comment by a non-tea party person doing his take on a neo-conservative rant. Doesn’t really invalidate what you’re asking, of course; I just figured I’d offer the correction to you (if it’s needed, that is) before the troll threw it at you, then claimed that it somehow invalidated your question.
      ;)

  9. Duke says:

    My question is primarily for the ravenous neo-cons that are whipped up into a forth at the “Great Come-uppance” they foresee coming over the next few days. Actually, as a genuine life-long conservative, it’s not an idea that I’m particularly happy with, but then there are some differences between most of the neo-cons and myself, so I don’t think us reasonable people (on either side of the aisle) will have to worry about it too much.

    At any rate:

    Considering the great amount of effort and the many, many syllables of rhetoric, bile, hatred, preaching, screaming, name calling, and the various pronouncements of the Glory That is to Come and the visions of the complete and final abandonment of all things liberal that have been pouring out from many of the neo-cons,

    How do you propose to reconcile your prophetic abilities (and general pompousness) if, after the election, the Congress remains in a Democrat majority?

    Just curious.

  10. Snake says:

    At least the oil lamp’s pretty, and the tea pot’s fat and ugly (HINT HINT). Plus, I hate caffeine (another HINT HINT) – I’m English by the way.

    To be frank, the Americans expect so much from Obama. You guys want him to do a huge amount in a short space of time, which is not an easy task. It all just sounds a lot like, I don’t know…the SLAVE TRADE, perhaps?!

    Leave your protests, but remember: you said he was the worst president ever – like every previous president was – before he had sat down behind his new desk.

    • Nelson says:

      But… He’s had 21 months! Why isn’t everything better?? (Other than the fact that it took decades to create this, the worst economic mess we’ve had in decades. He had to manage 2 intractable wars. And, the Grandstanding Opposition Party did their best to obstruct everything he wanted to do…) We expected MAGIC!

  11. Genie says:

    You ain’t never had a politician like me!


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