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Ooooooooh! Gotcha, Sarah!
Apparently no one listened carefully to what she said.
Warning the british that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms(guns).
But then the liberals are well known for their deafness.
The woman made a fool out of herself. Paul Revere’s ride had nothing to do with the NRA agenda.
I only see one fool and it’s not her.
“Paul Revere’s ride had nothing to do with the NRA agenda.”
Really?
Yes of course, we won the war with pamphlets and conflict resolution seminars.
No you knuckle head, we won our freedom through the barrel of a gun and the point of sword. Based upon your above response you have far less right to criticize her of anything regarding american history.
“The Regulars are coming out.” what were they armed with? Guns…What’s the NRA’s mission? Gun and protecting the peoples right to keep them. protecting from whom? liberal democrats.
Liberal democrats don’t want to take your guns, though.
Not all of them, just the ones in Handgun Control, Inc. and a few others who have been caught on tape occasionally.
Liberals want the cops to take your handguns because they’re too scared to try it themselves!
In other words, your guns aren’t in trouble. You can find someone out there for anything whatsoever. I can find conservative Christian fundamentalists who believe that we never been to the moon and that the Earth is the center of the universe.
Does that mean that “Christians” believe that?
Not necessarily. While “not all” does not mean “all,” it is also true that “not all” does not equate to “a small minority” or even “a minority.”
HCI, in the most recent numbers I can find, outlobbies the NRA (in terms of dollars) by 4:1. They’ve succeded in getting a number of Bills past the Congress, (and claim several prominent congresspeople as members,) so insinuating that they have no political clout is dubious.
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HCI?
If you mean “Handgun Control Inc” (as you know, Handguns are only one type of gun), then HCI spent about $1.66 million since 1990. In contrast, the NRA spent about $18.27 million since 1990.
So pro-gun is more eager of their cause than anti-gun?
Just pointing out the amount of money spent in their course of lobbying their position.
Did you figure in the other contributing factors? Such as how much free advertising the anti-gun lobby gets?
what i think is interesting is that the pro-gun lobby is unwilling to compromise on any issue, lobbies for complete and unrestricted freedom, and is a bastion of single-minded determination, regardless of facts in either direction. it’s about the principle of the matter, gol-dang-it, and nobody’s gonna take our guns! to the point where every time there’s a fluctuation away from the right, they encourage people to stockpile arms in fear that new anti-gun laws are just around the corner.
it actually sounds like the best marketing ploy i’ve ever heard.
i think it’s funnier that the majority of people who are anti-gun are actually against the crime and accidents that happen with irresponsible gun handling. it’s not about restricting the guns, or the paranoid delusion of the government trying to take one’s means of “fighting back” (i think the pricetag on a harrier jet or modern armor do that far more effectively… the idea of trying to fight against our military with how soft and tactically laughable the average frothing gun-owner seems to be is pretty much the antithesis of rational thought or reasonable expectation). the average city-dweller (in a city of reasonable size) has known someone, a relative or neighbor or friend, who has been peripheral to gun crime, some tragically. in the suburbs, it’s that douche who doesn’t lock up his pistol or shoots his kid thinking he was a burglar. for assault weapons, it’s people who live in a city with gang violence. it’s all about trying to control a problem. and who tends to represent the cities? that’s right, the democrats. tough on guns means tough on crime. but in the more rural areas, guns = hunting, pastime, or a rite of passage. they are freedom, and the occasional accident that brings a community together. it’s less about level of education or understanding of truth, it’s about relevance.
hell, even the wording of the second amendment is dubious — it can just as easily be read and interpreted as “people have the right to train in a militia for protection of the country” (you know, because having a standing army was against the wishes of the original document) as “guns are a right.” it’s a two-part statement, and you cannot just dismiss the first half because you like what the second part says.
“it’s a two-part statement, and you cannot just dismiss the first half because you like what the second part says.”
But I guess you can dismiss the second part because it doesn’t agree with your own thinking, right?
“i think it’s funnier that the majority of people who are anti-gun are actually against the crime and accidents that happen with irresponsible gun handling.”
I really would hyave to say this is not true. Would be impossible to get statistics either way so it’s kind of an ‘agree to disagree’ area.
“the idea of trying to fight against our military with how soft and tactically laughable the average frothing gun-owner seems to be is pretty much the antithesis of rational thought or reasonable expectation”
The British thought the same thing a couple centuries ago.
“what i think is interesting is that the pro-gun lobby is unwilling to compromise on any issue, lobbies for complete and unrestricted freedom, and is a bastion of single-minded determination, regardless of facts in either direction.”
Again, not exactly true.
Well, the British Harrier was totally unreliable as an ordiance vector, and the British smart cannon’s thermal vision was drastically reduced due to the smoke. Not to mention that the British A-10 Warthog was totally under utilized, as the concept of modern day mobile armor was another 200 years to see standard use on the battle field.
Oh, you’re funny…
Careful, Archer. You are treading dangerously close to Mao territory there.
Actually, the British were marching to Concord to try to confiscate and destroy a stash of weapons that were hidden there by the local militia. It has A LOT to do with the NRA agenda.
History WIN.
Not really, no.
Whatever WIN
http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html
Bug SQUASHED
i’m not sure what you think you read. explain how this is a win for you?
it’s the same story everyone in the US heard as a kid. it has nothing to do with the fact that palin likes to try to BS people into thinking that she knows something…
1) Some dullard was floating the idea that the British weren’t after the Colonial militia’s arms cache in Concord.
2) Sarah’s secure enough in her own skin that she doesn’t feel the need to impress others with stuff she reads off a teleprompter.
3) I give her props for sending everyone (myself included) on this thread to the interwebs to research Paul Revere.
1. the british were after the perceived resistance. they had plenty of guns of their own. don’t try to make this a 2nd amendment issue — it was about a dominant force trying to cripple resistance in kind.
2. are conservatives so embarrassed about bush’s yards-long list of slip-ups and mistakes that they have to pounce on the teleprompter as a symbol of righteousness in that it is somehow a thing unique to obama to have one, or whatever the stupid twist you’re trying to put on it is? because to the people outside your narrow conclave — and that includes the moderates, which means it’s 2/3 of the country who think you’re a douche for repeatedly saying it like it means something.
3. congrats. her mistakes make everyone have to correct her. she deserves praise for her mistakes? that’s just stupid. that’s lie praising jeffrey dahmer for making people research the edibility of human meat, or to godwin for a moment, that’s like praising hitler for helping teach people the value of life and cooperation.
Ouch. This is gonna leave a mark. From the local paper of record: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_palins_historical_account/
“the british were after the perceived resistance. they had plenty of guns of their own.”
They weren’t trying to get to the weapon supply for themselves, it was to crush a revolution before it could happen. That would be as silly as saying the ATF went after the Branch Dividian compound because they needed more weapons. Weak argument is weak.
Well played.
Destroying a cache of weapons in the hands of rebel forces/enemy combatants/terrorists is a pretty typical military tactic. I didn’t realize that US troops blowing up munition and weapon caches in combat areas were part of the anti-gun lobby.
Our own Revolution is what inspired the 2nd amendment and why the Founding Fathers felt a need to put limitations on the federal government.
Bells, ding-a-lings-Sarah P. cue up Chuck Berry (oh, my ding-a-ling)
You and the rest of her followers are as ignorant of current events as you are of history.
Seems historians are starting to back up Sarah on the details: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_palins_historical_account/
No genius, Paul Revere’s ride was to inform the people of the community as to which direction British soldiers were coming from (One if by land and two if by sea).
The only question is are you as ignorant as she is? Or trying to cover for her?
*Apparently no one listened carefully to what she said.
Warning the british that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms(guns).*
actually I think that message was in the first volley of musketballs that killed the front row of British soldiers at (allegedly) Lexington.
Credit where credit is due, we did deliver a lot of ammunition…
*Facepalm* Did someone skip civics in Highschool? Or just History?
“Firing those warning shots and ringing those bells” *Headdesk*
And people think she’d make a great president, and wonder at why I say I fear for the state of our political system…
facepalm – did you when obama said he was in all 57 states?
- did you facepalm when biden said the stimulus would add 500,000 jobs PER month?
- Did you facepalm when obama lied about the Supreme Court that result in Scalito(I think) mouthing ‘Your wrong.”
- Did you facepalm when Algore couldn’t identify the images of the founders when he arrived for the 1st time?
I facepalmed at your post.
No surprise there. it’s a common reaction liberals have when faced with the truth…anything to not look at it.
I’m facepalming again.
if you wish to keep beating yourself… I won’t stop you.
And if you realized how idiotic your post was, you’d be facepalming yourself. But, of course, you don’t. Because you’re a partisan hack.
Woot! I am a partisan hack now!
This, good people, is called “Compassion and tolerance” from the left.
See how they care?
I have compassion and tolerance for you. I don’t have tolerance for intolerant people, though. That’s not tolerance at all.
why am i reminded of that annoying kid with no friends that had a close in every elementary school… the one who would stick his fingers an inch from your face yelling “i’m not touching you!” over and over again until you push him away, then he’d whine about how you hurt him to the teacher…
same tactic. don’t bother replying.
Pot calling the kettle greasy.
It’s palming the face on it’s little head. Itsy tossed it a tissue and some lotion last night.
You really DO assume everyone on here but yourself and Agent 008 are liberals, don’t you? That tells me more about you than you realize. That and your knee-jerk reactions. One wonders what other assumptions you are prone to making, and how narrow your thinking actually is. Though, if your posts are any indication, very.
Heck, even I can see she is tired. She got the core of it right which is more than I can see for anything Obama has done FOR this country.
You call me narrow minded and accuse me of knee jerk reactions based and yet you do the same thing to her based upon a 20sec sound bite.
Don’t act all superior to me, you’re not better than I and that’s extending you some credit.
Again, you assume. My opinion is Based on every time I have watched a newsclip of her, or listened to one of her speeches. All politicians make gaffs. she outscores the majority of them in that arena. She is also good at regurgitating and parroting talking points, and whet the base wants to hear, but falls flat in policy and solutions. Also, she quits.
I am through talking to you.
I will now talk around you.
Good morrow.
And everytime you see a news clip of her she seems to say something stupid.
Let me guess, it never occurs to you this might be done intentionally by the news media?
Nah, she’s just that stupid to you that is the easier conclusion to come to.
Just from you posts, I can assume you’re arrogant, condescending liberal. Truth, I’ve not paid any attention to you until now.
What about when she says something stupid on Fox, a company that seems to like her?
You can’t read, can you? “Based on every time I have watched a newsclip of her, or listened to one of her speeches“…
awww wubbie’s made a new friend!
for the record, there is such thing as someone who is right with whom you do not agree. you don’t have to verbally attack everyone left of the extreme right. nor do you have to defend anyone to the right of said mark. there are plenty of conservatives who are less lockstep than you’re being (they’re usually the decent ones, too), and there is such a thing as a moderate.
there is not a “liberal media” conspiracy.
when your “opposition” makes the slightest of mistakes, it’s not your crowning moment of joy. when someone on your side makes a pattern of worse ones, you do not need to defend them to the death.
calm down.
^This
If she didn’t say something stupid almost every time she showed up on the news they wouldn’t have anything to say against her. Every politician screws up from time to time, and every politician catches crap for it on the news. But nobody makes a complete fool of themselves with the frequency that Sarah Palin does
@ Heck, even I can see she is tired.
True. She did sound tired. But local historians and Revere scholars are confirming her version:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_palins_historical_account/
YES!
Good, at least you unbiased.
An idiotic statement is just that, no mater how intelligent the issuer may be. I have no political party affiliation. Each has good ideas and bad ideas, always more of the later. I think anyone who votes strictly for one party because they dislike the other side is a fool. There are no solutions in political parties; only division, and rutted thinking.
If people check my voting record, they’ll find that I vote majority of the time for Democrats? Why? Even though I’m not a member of the Democratic Party?
Because I share my ideals more with the Dems than I do with the Repubs. The Repubs have, in recent history, gone off the deep end. The Dems have been dipping their toes in the water of the deep end, too…but they are a long shot from it.
I voted for Obama because he’s closer to my ideals than McCain. I voted for Kerry because he’s closer to my ideals than Bush. I voted for Gore because he’s closer to my ideals than Bush.
None of those that I voted for are the ones I wanted, though.
Bitter much?
Nope, you?
Lol – pot calling kettle black – you can’t even name Supreme Court justices.
Go back to Stormfront, cretin.
I’d have to say yes, but in many cases, we should just start having our laughs and letting it go.
tu quoque, Archer. Please try again.
there is a fundamental difference between a mind-wandering slip and the obvious “i don’t know what happened here so i’m going to make it up…”
Tell us again, Mrs. Palin, why we should elect you?
Because she’s been to all 57 states.
The reason why the 57 states gaffe doesn’t stick is because no one believes Obama thinks there are 57 states. His was truly a mispoken word. Now Sara, she is really an imbecile. That’s why it sticks.
Oh. So the reason the Obama gaffe sticks is because no one believes it. Thanks clearing that up, Yogi.
“Nobody goes there anymore; it’s too crowded.”
- Yogi Berra
Um, no, that’s because no one will effing let it go already.
it’s only brought up by conservotrolls, really. it’s a way of saying that “ooh the prez is dumb ‘coz he can’t count or doesn’t know how many states there are!”
funny, because most of the people who bring that up probably couldn’t fit the states together on a map.
funnier, because most of them (given average data from surveys) couldn’t find afghanistan, iraq, or north korea on a map when loudly yelling about our troops and patriotism and freedom fries.
let me try to lay it out ONE MORE TIME for the conservotroll above, so he’ll finally get it.
____feel free to ignore the tl;dr that starts here____
1. a “gaffe” is a mis-speaking. often this is a piece of information that is known to the individual, but due to a number of factors (fatigue, stress, fast-paced q&a, surprise, etc) the individual mis-speaks.
many people criticized bush 2 for his frequent and odd gaffes. one of the leading theories is that he was constantly trying to sound more “DC” than texas, and when concentrating on how to say things, he sometimes lost grasp of what he was saying. indeed, if you go back and look at his biggest ones (“working hard to put food on your family” or “fool me once…”), you hear his accent come back after he slips up.
a gaffe is nothing serious. when treated seriously, it is usually by people misrepresenting the significance of a casual comment, or unwilling to listen to the actual topic someone is speaking on. frequently, they are sent around as email forwards or railed on by political windbags, and repeated ad nauseum by people trying to sound smart.
a gaffe is is fundamentally different from..
2. making sh!t up — this is when you don’t know what to say, but understand that you are supposed to say something, so you open your mouth and let your brain go to town. sometimes, it certainly seems as if people prefer this to research, possibly because it’s the only part of a degree in english that is useful outside of law or education.
this also frequently happens when someone is surprised, but also when they are trying to sound smarter than they are. it is frequently seen as a symptom of bad leadership, because if the person was remotely good at being in the spotlight, they would have a capable staff that would have briefed them on the relevant issues — they would have been better prepared.
this is part of why palin is taking fire for this. she decided to speak when she really should not have. “had mccain won, and subsequently had a heart-attack, what kind of damage would this woman have done with such an attitude?” is a frequent criticism, which is largely unfounded (mccain never had recurring health troubles unless you consider his reputation for losing his temper, and anyway the president has a number of people protecting him/her from such damage).
these two are fundamentally different from…
3. “did not do the research” — a state where one known that something is important, that there is something significant that should be known, but that they are woefully unprepared. often, this manifests when individuals are performing #2 (above), and are trying to cover for it. often, the person in question realizes that they, as the reasonable and well-informed individual they present themselves to be, in fact should know something about the given topic, but do not realize that they are not smart enough to fool others who *do* know the relevant facts.
frequently, this is confused with a gaffe (#1), because “who would ever believe that?” but it points to a deeper problem — that many people don’t actually know the background of what they are talking about, and don’t bother to check.
bachmann recently made a #3 twice in the same weekend that was pretty much also a #1 (if not for her repetition of it, which implies that she believed her erroneous facts, or that she didn’t care about them, not that she misspoke). jfk’s “ich bin ein berliner” was a #3. reagan was infamous to any who were paying attention for #2 — he would create whole examples out of wishes and farts, then use them as if they were facts in a rousing speech to the country, prompting some modern historians to wonder when his alzheimers actually set in. palin is doing #2 and 3 here. bush (frequently, examples above and in many books written about the same topic), obama (57 states), and countless other people every day are guilty of #1.
____ok, you can tune back in_____
in the end, unless the person makes a habit of these kinds of things (like that zany biden, or palin’s entire career), taking them to task for it is like correcting someone on their grammar at a strip club — not only annoying, but it makes them look like that pompous ass you wish you hadn’t been forced to take with you, in context. in fact, it’s frequently done just so the person in question can feel better about themselves, and has little to do with the actual mistake.
so sure — be that person who has to lecture the people in their proximity about how that alanis morrissette song doesn’t contain any examples of irony, EVERY TIME YOU HEAR IT, just so you think people who already knew that think you’re clever now.
Brevity and Coherence FAIL.
hence the name, and the warning.
my coherence is sound, if you’re not a peabrain.
as for my brevity… do you really think such issues can be reduced down to sound bytes? that might be why you have no idea what you’re talking about most of the time. sometimes, ideas need to be discussed or spelled out thoroughly before they come together.
and, for the record, i love how you can’t remark on the content, so you remark on something petty… that’s usually a sign of being out of your depth.
I marvel at your contortions in defense of your guy. Oddly enough, both Obama’s “57 states” doozy and Sarah’s gaffe are both the result of fatigue. Listen to the raw footage of both and you can hear the fatigue in their voices.
Obama draws flak because his sycophants in the press have hailed his oratorical skills since 2007. The problem is that without his teleprompter, he’s horrible. I’ve never heard him say anything reasonable or well-thought-out when he’s off-prompter. He tends toward pettiness, condescension and meanness when he’s unscripted (e.g., Slurpee references, drivin’ the car into the ditch, Republicans wantin’ to kill granny, etc.).
the fact that you say “in defense of your guy” says a lot. was he my first pick? no. was he better prepared and suited than the clowncar ticket of mccain/palin? i still say yes. am i a liberal, or a democrat? no. then again, as the oceanic posters have pointed out, obama’s slightly right of center in the rest of the world despite how many gop mouths, conspiracy theorists, and fox news commentators have tried to suggest otherwise. it’s also not about my people vs. your people, though sometimes it feels like it — with the currently-dominant conservative mindset being “my way or the highway,” a number of people end up siding with the democrats because they don’t like the lockstep and intolerance of the current gop. i’d rather be a liberal, and a clueless moonbat democrat, than give the hypocritical too-religious party of no any further ground to do more damage to the country i love.
as far as your actual content… i think the “want to kill granny” thing was a direct rebuttal to the “death panels” nonsense that a number of people took as unassailable fact after the wondergenius above started shooting her mouth off with neither fact nor logic to back her up…
in fact, the examples you gave were all in frustrated response to the oppositional and frequently overtly dishonest tactics of (members of… possibly the organization of) the gop. i’d be frustrated too if i had a group of people more worried about making me look bad than doing their jobs, on a national scale, with the health and well-being of 300 million people at stake. i’d probably get a little pissy at them too, if they were more interested in playing political games to make political gains than to work together, then blamed me for not working together more.
i think the biggest question, though, is why is she so tired? i mean, campaigning for president is an arduous task, so it’s understandable that obama was tired when he made the much-quoted and completely non-subtext-laden gaffe that seems to get brought up as an example of his lack of skills. but what is palin doing that requires her to waste money and gas and time driving around the country, making tv appearances?
Self promotion for the sake of self promotion. She has a means of keeping herself relevant, and should she put out another book, excersize video, political point, etc, she has a platform to do so.
I saw Frank calling out “Anybody but Obama” and I doubt he realizes the irony of that statement.
I withdraw my contention that Sarah misspoke. I was wrong. She was right.
[citation served]
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_palins_historical_account/
Sarah Pee had been inhaling too many bus fumes, which is why she was incoherent.
If she can inhale bus fumes and still get the facts correct, imagine how awesome she’d be with no bus fumes!!!
If I were feeling trollish, I’d accuse you of belittling mass transit…but since it’s been a troll-free Monday, I’ll let it slide.
Sarah Pee? WTF?
“But Cornell law professor William Jacobson, who asserted last week that Palin was correct, linking to Revere quotes on his conservative blog Legalinsurrection.com, said Palin’s critics are the ones in need of a history lesson. “It seems to be a historical fact that this happened,” he said. “A lot of the criticism is unfair and made by people who are themselves ignorant of history.”
LOL!
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but…EVERY…intelligent…person…knows…she…was…wrong!
I hope they’re wearing helmets when their heads explode!
Even the LA Times is admits that Sarah got it right:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.html
Is the world turned upside down?
He simply didn’t include the words ‘and territories’ when he said 57 states. Every intelligent person knows that so join us.
You’re right! How could I be so blind?EVERY intelligent person knows that.
And she speaks Austrian.
Don’t misunderestimate Sarah Palin.
She’s been to the country of Africa.
And she can see Russia from her house.
Original FAIL. That’s Tina “Scarface” Fey, 2008. Stale.
Like Al Gore saying he invented the Internet. Right?
The actual quote is “I took the initiative in creating the internet.” Which isn’t quite true, either.
He did work to popularize it, though.
Missing the point. Al Gore never said that he invented the internet just like Sarah Palin never said that she could see Russia from her house.
Oh, yeah. Two popular misconceptions.
Or as Fry would say: “It’s a widely-believed fact!”
And just like Sarah never said Paul Revere warned the British.
Granted it was an odd way to say but, hey after a long day of work even I could hear what she said.
She looked tired but I know such sentiment can only be applied to the man child president.
I was referencing the “see Russia from my house” phrase. Try to keep up.
She said that Paul Revere warned the British that they weren’t going to take away our arms by firing shots and ringing bells.
AFAIK, Paul Revere’s warning was for the Americans that the British were coming, and said British never wanted to de-arm Americans.
The difference between Obama’s “57 states” mistakes and several of Palins, was that Obama APOLOGIZED and said he misspoke. When Palin got called out on her “refudiate” mistake, she whined about language evolving and said something along the lines of, “Shakespeare made up words all the time!” There’s a notable difference there.
The British soldiers were actually on a mission to capture and destroy military supplies that were reportedly stored by the Massachusetts militia at Concord.
So in effect, Palin was correct on that point. Rever’s ride immediately preceeded the Battle of Lexington and Concord, where those soldiers were met by the American forces and the “first shots” of the revolution were fired.
History WIN!
every soldier, in every conflict since the beginning of combat and at all times is on a mission to capture and destroy military supplies. If we disarm our enemy what happens? Our side wins! This is the goal of WAR, period.
So she is saying Revere was colluding with the British and therefore is a traitor. So if she is right she has toppled an American hero.
Historians confirm that Revere did warn the British that Americans were coming:
In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.”
[citation served]
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_palins_historical_account/
Double credit to JustMary for getting the facts out three days ago: http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/03/political-videos-sarah-palin-patriotic-revisionism/comment-page-1/#comment-521406
Paul Revere’s own words (exactly), for the historically ignorant:
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms
Palin getting this right means there is no need for apology. Obama’s 57 states on the other hand? Yeah.
History WIN!
Plus Palin’s explanation was more concise!
At least Obama apologized, I just wish people would let it go already.
As for what was asserted, I honestly think it makes sense.
Battlefield intel was nowhere near where it is today, so they couldn’t help but assume, and destroying the supplies of a perceived enemy can make sense in a tactical way.
Al Gore is a great man, so is Barack Obama. Both will be hobbled by the fascist propaganda coming from the primitive right. If, however, we still live in a free country after the present rightwing assault on American civilization, history will write that they were great. Sarah Palin, however, will be remembered as a narcissistic, amoral, attention whore no matter what happens.
“narcissistic, amoral, attention whore”
Fortunately for us all, we have you, an acknowledged Master in that field.
“Al Gore is a great man”
Now I know your a nutter.
He’s a snake oil sales man and nothing more.
“If, however, we still live in a free country after the present rightwing assault on American civilization…”
Really? Tell me why is the left that keeps changing it’s stories and it’s facts to fit every situation.
Your heroes cannot even keep their lies consistent.
Of course Algore is great. He invented Global Warming®!
1) Just because you may have different views of a person from another does not make them a nutter.
2) While I am sure that Al Gore is not the complete b@st@rd you say he is, I’d be interested in hearing why you view him as being such.
3) Based on your rhetorical question and you reference to the left ‘lying’, I’d assume that you view the political left as a threat to the American people. Assuming that this is ‘true’, how do you suggest we deal with this ‘threat’.
(Nalin is also welcome to address points 2 and 3, only with Sarah Palin/George Bush and the right instead.)
Boy, it’s certianly a good thing that “no one ever comes to Nailin’s defense”…
actually no, he introduced legislation that allowed for the creation of the internet, technically he had a good point
While Algore made himself out as the Prometheus of the Internet, his role was more that of the houseguest you send outside to retrieve more logs for the fire you started an hour ago.
Al Gore never did anything of the sort.
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet”-Direct quote of Al Gore
Al Gore makes Sarah Palin appear to be a genius when it comes to gaffes.
Mammogram…sonogram…honey graham…
At an event in Las Vegas on Monday, 09/1800, Gore declared potential breast cancer victims faced “a long waiting line before they could get a biopsy or, uh, or a uh, another kind of, what am I looking for, a sonogram or….” People in the crowd shouted “mammogram.”
(Source: Fox News 09/18/00; MSNBC 09/21/00 – The News with Brian Williams)
“Had that happened to Bush the news media would have used it to further the theme that the Texas Governor has a troubled relationship with the English language.” – Brian Williams 09/21/00
Equal…if not more so?
“When my sister and I were growing up,” Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, “there was never any doubt in our minds that men and women were equal, if not more so.”
(Source: NY Times, 08/12/00)
Equal – if not more so? More so what? More “equal”? Who is more so? If two things are equal, what is the “more so” for?
Gore didn’t reverse John 3:16, but he DID reverse Matthew 6:21
During the second debate, while discussing the environment, Gore said: “And I’m a grandfather now. I want to be able to tell my grandson, when I’m in my later years, that I didn’t turn away from the evidence that showed that we were doing some serious harm. In my faith tradition, it is written in the book of Matthew, ‘Where your heart is, there’s your treasure also.’ And I believe that we ought to recognize the value to our children and grandchildren of taking steps that preserve the environment in a way that’s good for them.”
Gore got the quote from Matthew 6:21 backwards. Matthew 6:21 states: “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” This follows verses 19 and 20 which say: “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal.”
This quote has nothing to do with the environment; it has to do with devotion to salvation The Bible verses specifically refer to being careful where you store your treasures – it follows the the reason would have to be because heart follows treasures. So not only did he misquote and misuse the quote – it is obvious he didn’t know the context of the verse.
One thousand billion million trillion…
Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) — Criticizing Bush’s Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, “He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he’s proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers.”
A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.
(Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/wires/1025/p_rt_1025_41.sml)
Execute a pregnant woman? Uhh… I don’t know
On July 16, 2000 during a “Meet the Press” interview, Gore was asked if he would be in favor of postponing the execution of a pregnant woman. His hesitant response was “I’d have to think about it”.
Apparently not prepared for this curve ball of a question, Gore must have been so conscientious about upsetting his pro-choice constituency that he couldn’t even give the answer that was obvious to every member of the House which in uncharacteristically unanimous fashion passed legislation shortly after this interview to prohibit such a practice.
RUSSERT: Right now there’s legislation which says that a woman on death row, if she’s pregnant, she should not be executed. Do you support that?
GORE: I don’t what you’re talking about.
RUSSERT: It’s a federal statue on the books that if a woman is pregnant and she’s on death row, she should not be executed.
GORE: Well, I don’t know what the circumstances would be in that situation. I would–you know, it’s an interesting fact situation. I’d want to think (OFF-MIKE).
The full transcript is available here.
$29 dollars a week can buy a lot of Diet Cokes
In his 2000 convention acceptance speech, Gore said the Bush tax cut would save the average family 62 cents a week (“enough for a diet coke”). He later clarified it and said 62 cents a day per family… which is still wrong. Even at 62 cents a day, that’s only a little over $226 a year. Under the Bush tax plan, the average family would save $1500 — $4.20 a day, which is almost $29 dollars a week.
Collecting cans for prescription drug benefits!
During the October 3, 2000 Presidential debate, Gore mentioned 79-year-old Winifred Skinner, who has become the campaign’s mascot for his Medicare prescription-drug program. “In order to pay for her prescription drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans ,” Gore said. “She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order to attend here tonight.”
However, Skinner doesn’t need to collect cans for her medication. Her son, Earl King, who formerly owned his own business and now lives on an 80-acre ranch and describes his lifestyle as “comfortable,” has offered repeatedly to help her make ends meet. She continually declines his offers. In addition, the Winnebago Gore referred to, as well as the gas, was paid for by the Gore campaign. Five campaign workers accompanied Skinner, a longtime Democrat and former union organizer.
(Source: New York Post, October 5, 2000 “Gore’s nose is growing again”; Washington Post, October 5, 2000, page A20)
I was there with James Lee Witt…oh, wait….
In the Presidential debate on October 3, 2000, Governor George W. Bush gave credit to the Federal Emergency Management Service (FEMA) for their work in Texas during fires and floods in Parker County. Vice President Al Gore said “I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out.” Carl Cameron, of Fox News first reported that Gore had not, in fact, been to Texas with Witt to look at the damage in Parker County. Gore WAS in Texas, but FEMA officials said Witt never went to Texas to deal with the 1998 fires.
To say that he was traveling with Witt implies strongly that Gore was traveling to a location in an official capacity. Gore was on his way to a fundraiser, and happened to run into FEMA people at the airport. The purpose of his trip was to attend a fundraiser, NOT to see the damage, as Gore implies. While Gore has accompanied Witt on other occasions, Gore didn’t on this occasion, AND the purpose of this particular trip wasn’t even connected with the disasters. Some claim Gore just “forgot” that Witt wasn’t with him on this occasion… did Gore also forget the purpose of this particular trip?
“If James Lee was there before or after, then you know, I got that wrong then,” Gore said on ABC’s Good Morning America on October 4, 2000.
(Source: New York Post, October 5, 2000 “Gore’s nose is growing again”)
I was part of those discussions! Really!
At a Sept. 22 press conference, Gore stated “I’ve been a part of the discussions on the strategic reserve since the days when it was first established.” However, President Ford established the Strategic Petroleum Reserves when he signed the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) on December 22, 1975 — two years before Al Gore became a congressman
(Source: Washington Post, Sept. 24 2000)
(note: it was actually 13 months, not 2 years as the Post states)
Now, technically, 1975 was when it was declared U.S. policy to establish a reserve, but the reserve was not established (sites purchased or built, etc) until 1977, when Gore was in Congress. However, isn’t this yet another case of “fuzzy wording”? Gore phrases the initial statement to give the impression that he was somehow responsible or “part of something” from the outset, but leaves wiggle room so that he can later justify the statement. And isn’t saying he was part of “discussions on the strategic reserve” meant to leave the impression that he was was part of the planning process, prior to the sites being purchased, etc? Decide for yourself.
A dog’s health care costs less than my mother-in-law’s!
Vice President Al Gore, reaching for a personal example to illustrate the breathtaking costs of some prescription drugs, told seniors in Florida that his mother-in-law pays nearly three times as much for the same arthritis medicine used for his ailing dog, Shiloh. “That’s pretty bad when you have got to pretend to be a dog or a cat to get a price break” he stated. Gore’s mother-in-law does pay more for her medication, but the generic brand of the drug, which 85% of Americans now use as a cheaper alternative, costs half as much, or one and a half times what it costs for the pooch – not three times. In addition, given the complexities of the marketplace, and the steps people take to get a better deal, it can work the other way around: Pets “pretending” to be humans. The Gore campaign also admitted that it lifted those costs not from his family’s bills, but from a House Democratic study, and that Gore misused even those numbers: They represent the manufacturer’s price to wholesalers, not the retail price of the brand-name product.
Drug costs often cost more for humans, though, because they are more heavily regulated. Jeff Trewhett, the spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association of America, said the higher costs for the human version of patented drugs is justified because the research, development, and approval costs can surpass $500 million per drug. But once the drug is approved for humans, the cost to test and approve it for animals is minimal, he said. Interestingly enough, Gore is proposing more regulations on on top of what we have now. Our food also costs 3 times as much as the dog’s… will Gore say that we have to pretend to be dogs to get affordable food?
(Source: “Gore misstates facts in drug-cost pitch” Boston Globe, 9/18/2000 )
Dairy Farm Expert in a Day
Milwaukee, WI – “I’m very familiar with the importance of dairy farming in Wisconsin. I’ve spent the night on a dairy farm here in Wisconsin. If I’m entrusted with the presidency, you’ll have someone who is very familiar with what the Wisconsin dairy industry is all about.”
(Sources: Sunday, June 18, Atlanta Journal Constitution and The Washington Post, June 14, 2000)
Hey! I am an expert in hospital administration in NJ, and the hotel industry in several states – having spent more than one night there!
Let’s play “Insult the Host”
Gore sometimes shows publicly that he lacks Clinton’s finesse. Take a reception in Los Angeles last month. It was Gore’s moment to shine before donors who ponied up $2.8 million. But he wound up egg-faced when he compared electing a Republican as president to rejecting an Oscar-winning team in favor of the producers of the Hollywood clunker ”Howard the Duck.” One of the evening’s hosts, Jeffrey Katzenberg, was a driving force behind ”Howard the Duck.” The crowd tittered.
(Source: USA Today, May 8, 2000 )
Hey! It’s Super Tuesday… oh wait…
Several Tennesseans tried to cast votes in the presidential primary, thinking that their state was part of Super Tuesday. They weren’t alone. Vice President Al Gore seemed to think so, too. Knox County registrar Pat Crippens said, “I just got off the phone with a gentleman. I had to explain we’re not Super Tuesday, we’re just next Tuesday.” His office got about 30 calls from confused voters. In 1988, Tennessee and 12 other Southern states decided to hold their presidential primaries on the second Tuesday of March, dubbing it “Super Tuesday” in hopes of gaining national political clout. Several Northern states also held their primaries that day. More than a dozen states have since moved their primaries to the first Tuesday of the month, creating a new “Super Tuesday.” Tennessee – the vice president’s home state – is among six that have stuck with March 14. As reporters and photographers watched from the lobby of his Nashville headquarters on Tuesday, Gore called a “Miss Ferris” and told her, “Today is the presidential primary in Tennessee .” His expression changed as he listened to her. “Well, you know, that is right. You are absolutely right,” he said before hanging up and quickly dialing the next number on his voter call list.
(Source: Houston Chronicle 3/8/2000 by Houston Chronicle News Services)
The Republicans controlled the Senate in ’93? Do the Democrats know this?
From Meet the Press 12/19/99
MR. RUSSERT: Senator, what did you think of the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign’s approach to fund-raising?
MR. BRADLEY: I thought that a lot of people in politics were embarrassed by it, quite frankly. I think Republicans and Democrats were disgraceful in that fund-raising program in 1996. Now, I think Al had the right point. It’s the lessons that you learn. In 1990, I raised a lot of money for my Senate race. I raised too much money. I discovered that you can have too much money in a political campaign. I think that’s what George Bush is going to discover. Now, in Al’s case, the attorney general investigated it fully and determined that an independent counsel was not needed. And so – and the Republicans might make that an issue, but that’s the reality. But I think the question is what you learn from this. And what I learned is that you’ve had seven years to actually do something on campaign-finance reform, and nothing has happened. I remember visiting the White House in 1993, Democratic Congress, both Senate and House, and urging the president to act on campaign-finance reform. Now, I don’t know if you were in the loop or not, but the fact of the matter is that no action took place. And when we say what we…
VICE PRES. GORE: Because all the Republicans voted against it.
MR. BRADLEY: …what we need to do…
VICE PRES. GORE: And they controlled the Senate.
MR. BRADLEY: …what we – where was the effort made, Al, in 1993?
VICE PRES. GORE: We got every single Democratic senator to vote for it.
Gore and the Internet
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet” Gore said when asked to cite accomplishments that separate him from another Democratic presidential hopeful, former Sen. Bill Bradley of New Jersey, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on March 9, 1999.
Gore supported technological advances related to the advancement of the Internet, but to say that HE took the initiative in creating the Internet is a bit much.
(Sources: Transcript http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18390.html )
(Note: Lots of people seem to enjoy e-mailing me, professing that my information about Gore saying he “invented” the Internet is wrong, that he did support things which helped get the Internet moving, etc. First, I know he never said he “invented” the Internet. Please notice the quote above. Second, saying that he took the initiative in CREATING the Internet is still a funny statement since the Internet was already created and being used (ex: file copying via the UUCP protocol and e-mail) by the time he was elected to Congress. One can’t take the “initiative” to “create” something which has already been created.)
A spotted Zebra.
“A zebra does not change its spots.” – Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
(Sources: The Toronto Sun, 11/19/95; May 13th page of the “365 stupidest things ever said, 1999 Calendar.” ALL quotes from this calendar are from a book called “The 700 Stupidest Things Ever Said”) The book and calendar are by a brother and sister team called Ross and Kathryn Petras. The original book “The 776 Stupidest things ever said” was printed in March 1993, and the calendar was printed August 1998.)
E plu…what?
“We can build a collective civic space large enough for all our separate identities, that we can be e pluribus unum — out of one, many.” E Pluribus Unum is the motto on the Great Seal of the United States of America, and is Latin for “out of many, one,” not “out of one, many.”
(Source: January 1994. From a Milwaukee speech to the Institute of World Affairs as quoted in Investor’s Business Daily, October 25, 1996.)
Who ARE these people??
Listen to Al Gore (Algore) asking who the busts of our Founding Fathers are at Monticello before the Inauguration. DUH. gore.au (71k)
Watch the video of this!
Mary and Joseph were homeless??
“Speaking from my own religious tradition in this Christmas season, 2,000 years ago a homeless woman gave birth to a homeless child in a manger because the inn was full.”
Hello! Mary and Joseph were not homeless!
(Sources: Press Conference at HUD, 12/22/97; George Will column, Sunday May 17 1998)
A new type of tree!
Al Gore, giving a speech for Yellowstone National Park’s 125th Anniversary, Albright Visitors Center, Sunday, August 17, 1997: “When we come here, we see the longpole pine and the Douglas fir.”
Sorry Al, it’s LODGEpole. There is no such thing as a LONGpole pine.
Michael who?
Maybe Michael Jordan hasn’t made an indelible impression on everyone outside Chicago. Speaking at a D.C. function, Vice President Al Gore, wowed by the Bulls, said: “I tell you that Michael Jackson is unbelievable, isn’t he. He’s just unbelievable.”
( Source: The Chicago Tribune June 17, 1998 )
James who?
In his first appearance in a nationally televised candidates forum, Gore was asked to name a past US president from whom he drew personal inspiration. He replied that he especially admired another “dark horse” candidate, and a product of his home state, the great “president James Knox”. The only problem is that the history books show that nobody named Knox ever occupied the White House. He most likely meant James Knox Polk.
(Source: Chicago Tribune of 7/24/87; The British Sunday Times; Michael Medved of KVI radio (570 AM based in Seattle).
Manliness Thanks!
In 1996, Al Gore visited a school in a largely Hispanic portion of Albuquerque, New Mexico. In an effort to fit in, he decided it would be appropriate to say something in Spanish as he took the stage. He was probably supposed to say “Muchisimas Gracias”, which means “Very, very much thanks” or possibly “Muchas Gracias”, which means “thank you very much.” Instead, he walked on stage saying “Machismo Gracias” – roughly translated to “manliness thanks.” There’s a video clip of the press in Albuquerque giggling about it and saying, “Oh well, he’s trying.”
(Source: KOB-TV in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1996 — does anyone have the exact date or can anyone confirm this?)
Daily Town Hall Meetings
“I certainly learned a great deal from 3,000 town hall meetings across my home state of Tennessee over a 16-year period” in Congress, the vice president told NPR’s Bob Edwards.
Do the math. That’s 187 town hall meetings per year, or a meeting in Tennessee every other day for 16 years, including weekends, holidays, vacations, and time spent running for president in 1988 and for vice president in 1992.
Now, Gore never specifically claimed that he was actually at all of the Town Hall meetings, but it certainly sounds like he is trying to imply that he was there when he states that he learned a great deal from 3,000 meetings!
(Source: http://www.cei.org/UpdateReader.asp?ID=777)
Special exception for Clinton.
“I seek this office to restore the rule of law and respect for common sense to the White House.” …
“Americans in every region and in both political parties have been shaken by the betrayal of public trust … and the dishonesty of the public officials.”…
“Any government official who … lies to the United States Congress will be fired immediately.”
(Source: Seattle Times, June 29, 1987)
Gore must be talking about the standards he’d apply to a Republican White House! After all, he referred to Clinton as “one of our greatest presidents” at the White House Post-Impeachment Pep Rally on December 19, 1998.
Gore Loves Courtney Love.
Finding himself talking to the controversial rock star Courtney Love at a Hollywood party, Mr. Gore attempted to charm her by telling her he was a fan. Rather than just accepting the easy compliment, Love cross-examined him.
“He goes ‘I’m a really big fan’,” said Love. “And I was like ‘Yeah, right. Name a song, Al’.” The answer came limply back: “I can’t name a song, I’m just a really big fan.”
Mr. Gore and his wife, Tipper, were the driving forces behind the campaign to make record companies put stickers on records that contained lyrics with sexually explicit content.
(Sources: The [London] Times, 10/1/98; Courtney Love recounted this event on the May 20, 1999 Late Show with David Letterman )
Left-wing idiot.
Back in 1994, Al Gore called Oliver North “the colonel of untruth” and said Mr. North was counting on political contributions from “the extra-chromosome right wing.”
(Sources: White House Special Briefing, 10/28/94; Washington Times, September 4, 1997 )
AL APOLOGIZES: Vice President Al Gore sent out a letter apologizing for his embarrassing “extra chromosome” jibe at Oliver North supporters, saying he had “learned an important lession [sic].” (Source: National Review, December 31, 1994.)
He can’t use a computer?
Pete Talek, a U.S. Steel employee speaking with Al Gore: “I am a few credits shy of earning a master’s degree and could use federal funds to help defray tuition costs because he also is putting a daughter through community college. “I worked with a 14-inch pipe wrench for years and a coal shovel.” Adding that he since has added a computer keyboard to the list of tools he can now use. “Gore smiled and admitted that he, too, has trouble turning on a computer – let alone using one.”
(Source: “Gore Touts Job-Training Programs at Pittsburgh Factory” Associated Press September 4, 1998)
Which is it Al? Articles paint you as a techie nerdie type with early, and possibly fairly substantive knowledge of computers and networks, but you can’t use a computer? You used Arpanet in the 70′s but now have trouble turning on a computer?
Where am I again?
Al Gore visited Minneapolis Minnesota on October 12, 1998 and raised several hundred thousand dollars for DFL gubernatorial nominee Hubert Humphrey III and two Democratic congressmen. Too bad he forgot which state he was in. Gore misspoke when he tried to summarize their commitment to education. “They will be the education team that Missouri needs to move into the 21st century,” he said.
(Source: Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 13, 1998)
Does this mean he’d fire Clinton?
“My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I’ll fire anyone who has lied to the American people or the United States Congress.”
(Source: Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 presidential debate)
The earth is upside down!
In the spring 1998 – Gore called The Washington Post’s executive editor to tip him off on an ”error” in the paper. ”I decided I just had to call because you’ve printed a picture of the Earth upside down on the front page of the paper,” Gore said.
(Source: Florida Times Union 4/3/98 ) There is no ”up” in space; only on maps that orient the Earth’s surface north and south.
For more examples of Al Gore’s vast knowledge of space, take a look at the Florida Times Union article
Gore loves tobacco.
“Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I’ve hoed it. I’ve dug in it. I’ve sprayed it, I’ve chopped it, I’ve shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it.
(Source: [New York] Newsday, 2/26/88
Oh wait.. I didn’t mean that…
“Sometimes, you never fully face up to things that you ought to face up to.” — Al Gore, discussing why he accepted checks from his family tobacco farm and contributions from tobacco companies for years after the tragic death of his sister that he spoke about so emotionally at the 1996 Democratic convention.
(Source: “‘Numbness’ Let Gore Accept Tobacco Help,” San Francisco Chronicle, August 30, 1996)
This is just page one. Care to wager how many pages I can post? And I mean just from pre 2001. I would explode the PK servers if I posted all the Gore Gaffes.
Al Gore makes Sarah Palin appear to be a genius when it comes to gaffes.
Mammogram…sonogram…honey graham…
At an event in Las Vegas on Monday, 09/1800, Gore declared potential breast cancer victims faced “a long waiting line before they could get a biopsy or, uh, or a uh, another kind of, what am I looking for, a sonogram or….” People in the crowd shouted “mammogram.”
(Source: Fox News 09/18/00; MSNBC 09/21/00 – The News with Brian Williams)
“Had that happened to Bush the news media would have used it to further the theme that the Texas Governor has a troubled relationship with the English language.” – Brian Williams 09/21/00
Equal…if not more so?
“When my sister and I were growing up,” Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, “there was never any doubt in our minds that men and women were equal, if not more so.”
(Source: NY Times, 08/12/00)
Equal – if not more so? More so what? More “equal”? Who is more so? If two things are equal, what is the “more so” for?
Gore didn’t reverse John 3:16, but he DID reverse Matthew 6:21
During the second debate, while discussing the environment, Gore said: “And I’m a grandfather now. I want to be able to tell my grandson, when I’m in my later years, that I didn’t turn away from the evidence that showed that we were doing some serious harm. In my faith tradition, it is written in the book of Matthew, ‘Where your heart is, there’s your treasure also.’ And I believe that we ought to recognize the value to our children and grandchildren of taking steps that preserve the environment in a way that’s good for them.”
Gore got the quote from Matthew 6:21 backwards. Matthew 6:21 states: “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” This follows verses 19 and 20 which say: “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal.”
This quote has nothing to do with the environment; it has to do with devotion to salvation The Bible verses specifically refer to being careful where you store your treasures – it follows the the reason would have to be because heart follows treasures. So not only did he misquote and misuse the quote – it is obvious he didn’t know the context of the verse.
One thousand billion million trillion…
Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) — Criticizing Bush’s Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, “He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he’s proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers.”
A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.
Execute a pregnant woman? Uhh… I don’t know
On July 16, 2000 during a “Meet the Press” interview, Gore was asked if he would be in favor of postponing the execution of a pregnant woman. His hesitant response was “I’d have to think about it”.
Apparently not prepared for this curve ball of a question, Gore must have been so conscientious about upsetting his pro-choice constituency that he couldn’t even give the answer that was obvious to every member of the House which in uncharacteristically unanimous fashion passed legislation shortly after this interview to prohibit such a practice.
RUSSERT: Right now there’s legislation which says that a woman on death row, if she’s pregnant, she should not be executed. Do you support that?
GORE: I don’t what you’re talking about.
RUSSERT: It’s a federal statue on the books that if a woman is pregnant and she’s on death row, she should not be executed.
GORE: Well, I don’t know what the circumstances would be in that situation. I would–you know, it’s an interesting fact situation. I’d want to think (OFF-MIKE).
The full transcript is available here.
$29 dollars a week can buy a lot of Diet Cokes
In his 2000 convention acceptance speech, Gore said the Bush tax cut would save the average family 62 cents a week (“enough for a diet coke”). He later clarified it and said 62 cents a day per family… which is still wrong. Even at 62 cents a day, that’s only a little over $226 a year. Under the Bush tax plan, the average family would save $1500 — $4.20 a day, which is almost $29 dollars a week.
Collecting cans for prescription drug benefits!
During the October 3, 2000 Presidential debate, Gore mentioned 79-year-old Winifred Skinner, who has become the campaign’s mascot for his Medicare prescription-drug program. “In order to pay for her prescription drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans ,” Gore said. “She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order to attend here tonight.”
However, Skinner doesn’t need to collect cans for her medication. Her son, Earl King, who formerly owned his own business and now lives on an 80-acre ranch and describes his lifestyle as “comfortable,” has offered repeatedly to help her make ends meet. She continually declines his offers. In addition, the Winnebago Gore referred to, as well as the gas, was paid for by the Gore campaign. Five campaign workers accompanied Skinner, a longtime Democrat and former union organizer.
(Source: New York Post, October 5, 2000 “Gore’s nose is growing again”; Washington Post, October 5, 2000, page A20)
I was there with James Lee Witt…oh, wait….
In the Presidential debate on October 3, 2000, Governor George W. Bush gave credit to the Federal Emergency Management Service (FEMA) for their work in Texas during fires and floods in Parker County. Vice President Al Gore said “I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out.” Carl Cameron, of Fox News first reported that Gore had not, in fact, been to Texas with Witt to look at the damage in Parker County. Gore WAS in Texas, but FEMA officials said Witt never went to Texas to deal with the 1998 fires.
To say that he was traveling with Witt implies strongly that Gore was traveling to a location in an official capacity. Gore was on his way to a fundraiser, and happened to run into FEMA people at the airport. The purpose of his trip was to attend a fundraiser, NOT to see the damage, as Gore implies. While Gore has accompanied Witt on other occasions, Gore didn’t on this occasion, AND the purpose of this particular trip wasn’t even connected with the disasters. Some claim Gore just “forgot” that Witt wasn’t with him on this occasion… did Gore also forget the purpose of this particular trip?
“If James Lee was there before or after, then you know, I got that wrong then,” Gore said on ABC’s Good Morning America on October 4, 2000.
(Source: New York Post, October 5, 2000 “Gore’s nose is growing again”)
I was part of those discussions! Really!
At a Sept. 22 press conference, Gore stated “I’ve been a part of the discussions on the strategic reserve since the days when it was first established.” However, President Ford established the Strategic Petroleum Reserves when he signed the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) on December 22, 1975 — two years before Al Gore became a congressman
(Source: Washington Post, Sept. 24 2000)
(note: it was actually 13 months, not 2 years as the Post states)
Now, technically, 1975 was when it was declared U.S. policy to establish a reserve, but the reserve was not established (sites purchased or built, etc) until 1977, when Gore was in Congress. However, isn’t this yet another case of “fuzzy wording”? Gore phrases the initial statement to give the impression that he was somehow responsible or “part of something” from the outset, but leaves wiggle room so that he can later justify the statement. And isn’t saying he was part of “discussions on the strategic reserve” meant to leave the impression that he was was part of the planning process, prior to the sites being purchased, etc? Decide for yourself.
A dog’s health care costs less than my mother-in-law’s!
Vice President Al Gore, reaching for a personal example to illustrate the breathtaking costs of some prescription drugs, told seniors in Florida that his mother-in-law pays nearly three times as much for the same arthritis medicine used for his ailing dog, Shiloh. “That’s pretty bad when you have got to pretend to be a dog or a cat to get a price break” he stated. Gore’s mother-in-law does pay more for her medication, but the generic brand of the drug, which 85% of Americans now use as a cheaper alternative, costs half as much, or one and a half times what it costs for the pooch – not three times. In addition, given the complexities of the marketplace, and the steps people take to get a better deal, it can work the other way around: Pets “pretending” to be humans. The Gore campaign also admitted that it lifted those costs not from his family’s bills, but from a House Democratic study, and that Gore misused even those numbers: They represent the manufacturer’s price to wholesalers, not the retail price of the brand-name product.
Drug costs often cost more for humans, though, because they are more heavily regulated. Jeff Trewhett, the spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association of America, said the higher costs for the human version of patented drugs is justified because the research, development, and approval costs can surpass $500 million per drug. But once the drug is approved for humans, the cost to test and approve it for animals is minimal, he said. Interestingly enough, Gore is proposing more regulations on on top of what we have now. Our food also costs 3 times as much as the dog’s… will Gore say that we have to pretend to be dogs to get affordable food?
(Source: “Gore misstates facts in drug-cost pitch” Boston Globe, 9/18/2000 )
Dairy Farm Expert in a Day
Milwaukee, WI – “I’m very familiar with the importance of dairy farming in Wisconsin. I’ve spent the night on a dairy farm here in Wisconsin. If I’m entrusted with the presidency, you’ll have someone who is very familiar with what the Wisconsin dairy industry is all about.”
(Sources: Sunday, June 18, Atlanta Journal Constitution and The Washington Post, June 14, 2000)
Hey! I am an expert in hospital administration in NJ, and the hotel industry in several states – having spent more than one night there!
Let’s play “Insult the Host”
Gore sometimes shows publicly that he lacks Clinton’s finesse. Take a reception in Los Angeles last month. It was Gore’s moment to shine before donors who ponied up $2.8 million. But he wound up egg-faced when he compared electing a Republican as president to rejecting an Oscar-winning team in favor of the producers of the Hollywood clunker ”Howard the Duck.” One of the evening’s hosts, Jeffrey Katzenberg, was a driving force behind ”Howard the Duck.” The crowd tittered.
(Source: USA Today, May 8, 2000 )
Hey! It’s Super Tuesday… oh wait…
Several Tennesseans tried to cast votes in the presidential primary, thinking that their state was part of Super Tuesday. They weren’t alone. Vice President Al Gore seemed to think so, too. Knox County registrar Pat Crippens said, “I just got off the phone with a gentleman. I had to explain we’re not Super Tuesday, we’re just next Tuesday.” His office got about 30 calls from confused voters. In 1988, Tennessee and 12 other Southern states decided to hold their presidential primaries on the second Tuesday of March, dubbing it “Super Tuesday” in hopes of gaining national political clout. Several Northern states also held their primaries that day. More than a dozen states have since moved their primaries to the first Tuesday of the month, creating a new “Super Tuesday.” Tennessee – the vice president’s home state – is among six that have stuck with March 14. As reporters and photographers watched from the lobby of his Nashville headquarters on Tuesday, Gore called a “Miss Ferris” and told her, “Today is the presidential primary in Tennessee .” His expression changed as he listened to her. “Well, you know, that is right. You are absolutely right,” he said before hanging up and quickly dialing the next number on his voter call list.
(Source: Houston Chronicle 3/8/2000 by Houston Chronicle News Services)
The Republicans controlled the Senate in ’93? Do the Democrats know this?
From Meet the Press 12/19/99
MR. RUSSERT: Senator, what did you think of the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign’s approach to fund-raising?
MR. BRADLEY: I thought that a lot of people in politics were embarrassed by it, quite frankly. I think Republicans and Democrats were disgraceful in that fund-raising program in 1996. Now, I think Al had the right point. It’s the lessons that you learn. In 1990, I raised a lot of money for my Senate race. I raised too much money. I discovered that you can have too much money in a political campaign. I think that’s what George Bush is going to discover. Now, in Al’s case, the attorney general investigated it fully and determined that an independent counsel was not needed. And so – and the Republicans might make that an issue, but that’s the reality. But I think the question is what you learn from this. And what I learned is that you’ve had seven years to actually do something on campaign-finance reform, and nothing has happened. I remember visiting the White House in 1993, Democratic Congress, both Senate and House, and urging the president to act on campaign-finance reform. Now, I don’t know if you were in the loop or not, but the fact of the matter is that no action took place. And when we say what we…
VICE PRES. GORE: Because all the Republicans voted against it.
MR. BRADLEY: …what we need to do…
VICE PRES. GORE: And they controlled the Senate.
MR. BRADLEY: …what we – where was the effort made, Al, in 1993?
VICE PRES. GORE: We got every single Democratic senator to vote for it.
Gore and the Internet
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet” Gore said when asked to cite accomplishments that separate him from another Democratic presidential hopeful, former Sen. Bill Bradley of New Jersey, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on March 9, 1999.
Gore supported technological advances related to the advancement of the Internet, but to say that HE took the initiative in creating the Internet is a bit much.
(Note: Lots of people seem to enjoy e-mailing me, professing that my information about Gore saying he “invented” the Internet is wrong, that he did support things which helped get the Internet moving, etc. First, I know he never said he “invented” the Internet. Please notice the quote above. Second, saying that he took the initiative in CREATING the Internet is still a funny statement since the Internet was already created and being used (ex: file copying via the UUCP protocol and e-mail) by the time he was elected to Congress. One can’t take the “initiative” to “create” something which has already been created.)
A spotted Zebra.
“A zebra does not change its spots.” – Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
(Sources: The Toronto Sun, 11/19/95; May 13th page of the “365 stupidest things ever said, 1999 Calendar.” ALL quotes from this calendar are from a book called “The 700 Stupidest Things Ever Said”) The book and calendar are by a brother and sister team called Ross and Kathryn Petras. The original book “The 776 Stupidest things ever said” was printed in March 1993, and the calendar was printed August 1998.)
E plu…what?
“We can build a collective civic space large enough for all our separate identities, that we can be e pluribus unum — out of one, many.” E Pluribus Unum is the motto on the Great Seal of the United States of America, and is Latin for “out of many, one,” not “out of one, many.”
(Source: January 1994. From a Milwaukee speech to the Institute of World Affairs as quoted in Investor’s Business Daily, October 25, 1996.)
Who ARE these people??
Listen to Al Gore (Algore) asking who the busts of our Founding Fathers are at Monticello before the Inauguration. DUH. gore.au (71k)
Mary and Joseph were homeless??
“Speaking from my own religious tradition in this Christmas season, 2,000 years ago a homeless woman gave birth to a homeless child in a manger because the inn was full.”
Hello! Mary and Joseph were not homeless!
(Sources: Press Conference at HUD, 12/22/97; George Will column, Sunday May 17 1998)
A new type of tree!
Al Gore, giving a speech for Yellowstone National Park’s 125th Anniversary, Albright Visitors Center, Sunday, August 17, 1997: “When we come here, we see the longpole pine and the Douglas fir.”
Sorry Al, it’s LODGEpole. There is no such thing as a LONGpole pine.
Michael who?
Maybe Michael Jordan hasn’t made an indelible impression on everyone outside Chicago. Speaking at a D.C. function, Vice President Al Gore, wowed by the Bulls, said: “I tell you that Michael Jackson is unbelievable, isn’t he. He’s just unbelievable.”
( Source: The Chicago Tribune June 17, 1998 )
James who?
In his first appearance in a nationally televised candidates forum, Gore was asked to name a past US president from whom he drew personal inspiration. He replied that he especially admired another “dark horse” candidate, and a product of his home state, the great “president James Knox”. The only problem is that the history books show that nobody named Knox ever occupied the White House. He most likely meant James Knox Polk.
(Source: Chicago Tribune of 7/24/87; The British Sunday Times; Michael Medved of KVI radio (570 AM based in Seattle).
Manliness Thanks!
In 1996, Al Gore visited a school in a largely Hispanic portion of Albuquerque, New Mexico. In an effort to fit in, he decided it would be appropriate to say something in Spanish as he took the stage. He was probably supposed to say “Muchisimas Gracias”, which means “Very, very much thanks” or possibly “Muchas Gracias”, which means “thank you very much.” Instead, he walked on stage saying “Machismo Gracias” – roughly translated to “manliness thanks.” There’s a video clip of the press in Albuquerque giggling about it and saying, “Oh well, he’s trying.”
(Source: KOB-TV in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1996 —)
Daily Town Hall Meetings
“I certainly learned a great deal from 3,000 town hall meetings across my home state of Tennessee over a 16-year period” in Congress, the vice president told NPR’s Bob Edwards.
Do the math. That’s 187 town hall meetings per year, or a meeting in Tennessee every other day for 16 years, including weekends, holidays, vacations, and time spent running for president in 1988 and for vice president in 1992.
Now, Gore never specifically claimed that he was actually at all of the Town Hall meetings, but it certainly sounds like he is trying to imply that he was there when he states that he learned a great deal from 3,000 meetings!
Special exception for Clinton.
“I seek this office to restore the rule of law and respect for common sense to the White House.” …
“Americans in every region and in both political parties have been shaken by the betrayal of public trust … and the dishonesty of the public officials.”…
“Any government official who … lies to the United States Congress will be fired immediately.”
(Source: Seattle Times, June 29, 1987)
Gore must be talking about the standards he’d apply to a Republican White House! After all, he referred to Clinton as “one of our greatest presidents” at the White House Post-Impeachment Pep Rally on December 19, 1998.
Gore Loves Courtney Love.
Finding himself talking to the controversial rock star Courtney Love at a Hollywood party, Mr. Gore attempted to charm her by telling her he was a fan. Rather than just accepting the easy compliment, Love cross-examined him.
“He goes ‘I’m a really big fan’,” said Love. “And I was like ‘Yeah, right. Name a song, Al’.” The answer came limply back: “I can’t name a song, I’m just a really big fan.”
Mr. Gore and his wife, Tipper, were the driving forces behind the campaign to make record companies put stickers on records that contained lyrics with sexually explicit content.
(Sources: The [London] Times, 10/1/98; Courtney Love recounted this event on the May 20, 1999 Late Show with David Letterman )
Left-wing idiot.
Back in 1994, Al Gore called Oliver North “the colonel of untruth” and said Mr. North was counting on political contributions from “the extra-chromosome right wing.”
(Sources: White House Special Briefing, 10/28/94; Washington Times, September 4, 1997 )
AL APOLOGIZES: Vice President Al Gore sent out a letter apologizing for his embarrassing “extra chromosome” jibe at Oliver North supporters, saying he had “learned an important lession [sic].” (Source: National Review, December 31, 1994.)
He can’t use a computer?
Pete Talek, a U.S. Steel employee speaking with Al Gore: “I am a few credits shy of earning a master’s degree and could use federal funds to help defray tuition costs because he also is putting a daughter through community college. “I worked with a 14-inch pipe wrench for years and a coal shovel.” Adding that he since has added a computer keyboard to the list of tools he can now use. “Gore smiled and admitted that he, too, has trouble turning on a computer – let alone using one.”
(Source: “Gore Touts Job-Training Programs at Pittsburgh Factory” Associated Press September 4, 1998)
Which is it Al? Articles paint you as a techie nerdie type with early, and possibly fairly substantive knowledge of computers and networks, but you can’t use a computer? You used Arpanet in the 70′s but now have trouble turning on a computer?
Where am I again?
Al Gore visited Minneapolis Minnesota on October 12, 1998 and raised several hundred thousand dollars for DFL gubernatorial nominee Hubert Humphrey III and two Democratic congressmen. Too bad he forgot which state he was in. Gore misspoke when he tried to summarize their commitment to education. “They will be the education team that Missouri needs to move into the 21st century,” he said.
(Source: Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 13, 1998)
Does this mean he’d fire Clinton?
“My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I’ll fire anyone who has lied to the American people or the United States Congress.”
(Source: Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 presidential debate)
The earth is upside down!
In the spring 1998 – Gore called The Washington Post’s executive editor to tip him off on an ”error” in the paper. ”I decided I just had to call because you’ve printed a picture of the Earth upside down on the front page of the paper,” Gore said.
(Source: Florida Times Union 4/3/98 ) There is no ”up” in space; only on maps that orient the Earth’s surface north and south.
For more examples of Al Gore’s vast knowledge of space, take a look at the Florida Times Union article
Gore loves tobacco.
“Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I’ve hoed it. I’ve dug in it. I’ve sprayed it, I’ve chopped it, I’ve shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it.
(Source: [New York] Newsday, 2/26/88
Oh wait.. I didn’t mean that…
“Sometimes, you never fully face up to things that you ought to face up to.” — Al Gore, discussing why he accepted checks from his family tobacco farm and contributions from tobacco companies for years after the tragic death of his sister that he spoke about so emotionally at the 1996 Democratic convention.
(Source: “‘Numbness’ Let Gore Accept Tobacco Help,” San Francisco Chronicle, August 30, 1996)
This is just page one. Care to wager how many pages I can post? And I mean just from pre 2001. I would explode the PK servers if I posted all the Gore Gaffes.
not knowing how to post fail.
Fresh FAIL. Bush 2000. Snore.
She knows that the Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.
Wait, what?
She knows that Obamacare would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.
The woman is an idiot.
And there comes a point when, ignoring the huge amounts of evidence that she is an idiot, you have to assume her rabid supporters are the same.
Hey, Nailin. Roxio called. They’re renaming the game to Nailin Palin Birds.
…Definately needs more Troll bell.
We expect more from you now, Agent. Your “Double Oh” status is under review.
*YAWN*
Who a troll?
U a troll?
U Jelly?
Read older posts to understand the troll bell ref. N00blet.
nah he’s to busy being sucked off by archer
*Snerk!!*
“Hey, Nailin. Roxio called. They’re renaming the game to Nailin Palin Birds.”=Troll bell
“nah he’s to busy being sucked off by archer”=Humor
????
Profit!
They’re obligated to jerk each other off…when they’re not playing Second Life…or D&D.
Hey! D&D requires actual thought to play!
*Definitely.
Wasn’t sure who was ringing the Troll Bell.
She made Paul Revere sound like the star of an action movie. An incomprehensible action movie.
Hey, those bells are totally canon. It’s like, Paul Revere goes riding through London, telling the British to kiss his butt, right? And the British are all HOW DARE U, but Paul Revere rides his horse into a big sailboat with a motor (’cause Ben Franklin’s down in the engine room inventing all the time) and they set off for America and make it in, like, two hours with an hour head start on the British ’cause it was Tea Time. Then the Americans are all “WOOOO! PAUL!” and start ringing bells when the ship lands and Paul Revere’s all “dudes, I warned u about the British! I WARNED U!” and everyone’s all “haha, good one” and the British are like “we don’t want your crappy colonies, anyway” and butthurt, and then America’s free and the war’s over.
See? Canon.
Do you know who rode with Paul Revere?
The Raiders?
008, definite WIN!
Paul Revere warned the British, and now we live in 57 free independent states, plus Hawaii.
Holy Christ, you’re an idiot.
It’s two, two, two misstatements in one! I’m sorry for you that you didn’t get it, ESPECIALLY since you did the same thing and then told ME off for not getting it.
Obama never believed that we have 57 states. Nor did he ever say that we have 57 states.
Lesson 1: never deny anything that’s been seen on videotape by millions of people. It makes you look silly.
“I’ve now been in fifty…seven states…one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to visit.”
Now, MY argument would be that he was probably tired from running around… much like Palin most likely is..
If I’m wrong, what’s YOURS?
In other words, Obama never said that he believed we have 57 states, nor did he say that we have 57 states. You’re probably tired. Not sure why Palin is. She’s not campaigning…………………is she?
Only way she should be tired on a tour where she is supposedly just visiting the landmarks, is if she’s driving her bus herself…
I don’t that Obama actually BELIEVES there are 57 States.
But yeah, he SAID 57 states, you can’t say you’ve BEEN in 57 states without, ipso facto, saying that there ARE 57 states.
Do you understand what the definition of “misstatement” is? It’s when a politician doesn;t have a speech or a teleprompter to read from, and babbles some off-the-cuff nonsense. ALL politicians do this, and it doesn’t make ANY of them stupid.
Insisting (as some have, but I would say arguably YOU have NOT) that a misstatement makes one politician stupid but not another is, in itself, stupid.
Which was my point.
“Paul Revere warned the British, and now we live in 57 free independent states, plus Hawaii.”
Did you misspeak? Are you tired?
Listen to the comment. He said that he had been to “57 states” with one more to go plus Hawaii and Alaska…in other words, if you’re right, then he should believe that there ARE SIXTY states.
Did you misspeak? Are you tired?
Yes to both, actually.
omg sarcasm detection fail.
Ok, my problem with this is he said ‘fifty’ but meant ‘forty’ seven, as evidenced by his continued comment that he had one more to go (which would make 48) because time did not allow him to visit Alaska and Hawaii… which adds up to 50 (the correct number)
In other words, he misspoke ONE word, but then got the rest of the sentence correct, and even the math…
While Sarah, in the clip above, goes on and on and on and on, about ringing bells and the British taking away our arms, and firing warning shots and ringing bells… ad nauseam…
At this point I really just feel sorry for her. Her problem, and she shares this problem with a lot of people, has always been that she will continue talking even when she should know that she is talking about something that she doesn’t seem to know anything about. She could have just said that she came to visit the land of Paul Revere, a hero of the American Revolution and she would have been fine.
My main problem with her, as a whole, is that she does this with EVERY subject. She doesn’t seem to know anything about anything.
And I just CANNOT, for the life of me, figure out why (some) people are so enamored of her.
She is a ditsy, conniving, money hungry, idiot.
All she seems to be really good at is creating situations where she can get her face on television and have incredibly gullible people send money to her PAC (apparently for the purchase of a $100,000 vacation bus).
Well, if it weren’t for Confucius these beauty queens wouldn’t be so confused all the time.
http://www.spike.com/video-clips/cqfdzy/beauty-queens-are-stupid
Let’s try again. I blame Confucius.
For some reason it won’t let me post the video, but the blame apparently lies with Confucius.
“Learning without thought is labor lost.”
Then Cozzarelli was asked to explain the quote:
“Good evening Panama!”
“Confucius was one of whom invented confusion, and that’s why, eh. One of the most ancient, he was one of the Chinese. Japanese who were one of the most ancient.”
“Thank you.”
It’s the fault of Confucius.
From a miss Panama contestant in 2009:
“Confucius was one of whom invented confusion, and that’s why, eh. One of the most ancient, he was one of the Chinese. Japanese who were one of the most ancient.”
It reminds me of the beauty contestant talking about Confucius inventing confusion.
Why can’t I seem to post anything about the woman who said Confucius invented confusion?
My guess is that she appeals to sort of that…small town America spirit?
That being said, it may help her standings if she did a bit of research into the things she’s talking about, assuming that this hasn’t already occurred.
/My/ main problem with her is that people keep giving her attention. Without that, she’d go away.
^^This^^
I would say that this is mainly because Obama has a better idea of when it’s time to stop talking than Palin has.
Though Pailin and Biden might just be tied in that arena.
Meh. She said it without a teleprompter though.
He was referring to the number of primary and caucuses that were contested:
50 states
District of Columbia
Democrats Abroad
Puerto Rico
American Samoa
Guam
Virgin Islands
Texas has a weird system with a primary and a caucus on different dates.
57 primaries and caucuses.
Give it a rest.
Yeah, right! LOL!
He obviously meant to say “forty-seven”, with one to go (as he stated) would make 48, since he wasn’t “allowed” to visit Alaska and Hawaii. Which would be 50. How is that even close to being on par with *anything* that has come out of Palin’s mouth?
Does this count?
Or this?
Sarah can’t even count to 57.
Todd can, though. That’s how many scars he has from being clobbered by his beloved little woman with various blunt household objects.
Nailin: Go away. No one wants you here. Except for far right whom love your posts because they idiotically believe that you represent anyone other than yourself.
Troll.
I’ve actually met considerably more Nailins than I have DSG’s, which is sad because I tend to judge groups by the majority of examples I am presented with.
But you deserve props for telling Nailin off. Have a cookie.
Then go after the Nailins and no one else.
Most of us agree Nailin is too much of a douche.
Dude. Not funny.
I’m not even an American and I know that she said foolish things in that video.
I still think that she is looking (seeking) for Kyle.
I am an American and she has yet to say anything more foolish than some over democrat peers.
“Some over”?
yep
it’s a mash of ‘some of her’ sounds like some over if you say it fast.
You must be tired.
The only 22 gun salute she should ever receive is a firing squad: with colonial muskets!
Murder: classy.
2nd amendment solutions and all that.
Only from liberals.
This is what passes for peaceful tolerance, compassion and “class” from the left.
and the right.
http://zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/
Hey, most of us can’t stand this talk either. I try not to paint the right as a whole with the same brush when I see really out-there wingnuts, I should hope that others do the same with the left.
Yup. I don’t class an entire group on the actions of a single person….and when I do, it’s in completely mockery of what someone else said. I still don’t believe it, I’m just mocking them
Archer, if you don’t like it when people project, then stop projecting.
*facepalm*
Don’t retreat, reload!
This woman truly frightens me.
I’m more frightened of those who adore her.
^ This.
Just like Charles Manson’s charisma attracted easily manipulated lunatics, Sarah Palin’s minions are dang frightening.
Actually…her minions are fewer and fewer these days.
As her appeal wanes, and her ignorance of anything and everything is brought into crystal clear focus every time she opens her mouth, even her once rabid followers are losing interest.
She’ll continue to milk her last few minutes of fame as long as possible.
But she’ll tuck tail and run back to Alaska as soon as the money teat dries up.
She won’t even be the punchline for jokes anymore, because people will have largely stopped caring about anything this simpleton says or does.
Good goawd…
So many errors in my post…
Oh…the irony…it would sting…but I’m still smarter than Flailin Palin…so that takes the edge of a bit.
Damn woman, at least WATCH “National Treasure” there is some accuracy there.
Oh dear, I did a copy paste on a short piece on Revere’s ride. The censorbot seems to have eaten it. I wonder what combination of letters it contained? Oh I got it!!!
Revere’s main mission was to warn John Hanc0ck and Samual Adams that the British were coming to arrest them. He hung 2 lamps in the North church to indicate that the British were rowing across the Chesapeake Bay then headed out for Concord. He stopped at the homes of the Sons of Liberty to warn them of the impending arrest of Hanc)ck and Adams. I would have loved to be able to give you the whole poste but it contained too many Hanc)cks.
If you click on the red “history” below the video it is a link to the story.
Try replacing c0ck with Weiner.
On the night of April 18–19, 1775, just hours before the battles of Lexington and Concord, Revere performed his “Midnight Ride”. He and William Dawes were instructed by Joseph Warren to ride from Boston to Lexington to warn John Hanweiner and Samuel Adams of the movements of the British Army, which was beginning a march from Boston to Lexington, ostensibly to arrest Hanweiner and Adams and seize the weapons stores in Concord.
Alright. Archer has called me a liberal. Any of the regulars want to enlighten this monkeyboy on my political affiliation and views?
It also assumes I get my news from one source, don’t watch unedited speeches, and believe everything the network news says.
Again, any of the regulars want to enlighten him/her/it? (I have no idea what Archers gender is, only that they are shooting with an unstrung bow.)
We really don’t care what the tired old drunks down at the end of the bar have to say.
Trending towards Nailin Territory.
Trending towards Nailin territory…
Again, I wasn’t speaking to you. But, since you feel the need to come to your lover’s defense, I’ll ask you this; If, as you say, “We really don’t care what the tired old drunks down at the end of the bar have to say” does that mean you will be skipping the Republican national convention this year? Or will you just be going to the Democratic convention and plastering “BUSH THIRD TERM 2012!” bumper stickers on the attendees cars?
Here. I got you a gift.
Death by chocolate. With sprinkles! Needs more chocolate. And death. And sprinkles. And Catwoman… And handcuffs. (keys optional) Who needs keys? Handcuff locks are easy to open. And bacon? Can I add bacon? And maybe some spanking?
Meat and spanking sound lovely. I’ll sharpen my claws for you. Wow, this is better than when I wandered into that hobo orgy!
And what does an entirely apolitical string of jokes, added to by multiple regulars, have to do with this? You really are reaching. Congratulations, Agent. You ate about to make me say something I never have;
STFU>FO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Star: Don’t worry about it too much. He seems to do that with everyone.
*Sigh* I guess I can only pray that archer008 (Is it me or do they seem like the same person; exact same typing/linguistic style, mind set, etc) Is touched by His Noodly appendage. I know it will never happen, but, ya know… rule 34.
I was actually thinking 008 and Nailin were the same….just one is left-wing and the other is right-wing….like some idiot trying to emulate both sides and failing.
Miserably.
I’m not sure if it’s archer socking, or someone else socking, or maybe a high-schooler out for summer break or what. But there is something definitely odd going on there. Way too many posts, all the time, and the rabidity
I tend to just iggy.
This site needs more new blood and less Second Life dialog. Knowwhatimsayin?
No.
I think it means “down with the funny, fun, regulars! Up with the rabid, offensive new-douches!”.
’cause there’s nothing more funny than calling someone a fvcktard douche
Stay classy!
Can’t tell if sarcastic or just stupid.
Just stupid. And probably young enough to call you old, Loti.
Where in my statement was the term “fvcktard”? Do not put words in my mouth little one.
As for the douchiness factor, I think you have proved that beyond any possible doubt.
I swear there must be secret text that only tr0lls can read.
Yeah, they must have a secret decoder ring.
And I wasn’t trying to be funny, just clarifying your own statement.
dude… rather than teach the idiot young upstart to respect his/her betters, you you can look at the complete lack of decency AND logic archer shows and just do the frank wave.
i mean seriously. pretty much every comment is something an angry zitfaced 14-year-old son of a klansman would repeat at school to impress his classmates and try to earn some friends. the only difference, as fas as i can see, is that with politics, people will back you up — no matter how stupid or offensive or crass you are — if they think you are on their side.
Tired old drunks? Stop beating a dead Kennedy.
Also, you’re veering perilously close to Nailin territory.
he said old, not dead. the kennedys that are left are all young drunks.
and i think he crossed into the nailin territory about a week ago…
Yeah, this is one of my problems here. Some people are making judgements and posting rude inaccurate information about others without knowing anything about them. I’m not sure what can be done about this. I posted more about who I am and what I do than I ever have before. I don’t think it did any good.
We suspect that he may be the latest incarnation of a Troll named Megasock.
That guy just assumed that if you disagreed with him, you were a member of the Left. He kept on calling one of the old regulars (ILPB) a ‘lefty’ even though you could tell from reading ILPB’s posts that he was a conservative.
Also, given that the sock seemed to think that the left worshiped Obama, the fact that ILPB once had ‘and doesn’t like Obama’ in his name should’ve been an indicated that he’d gotten the political affiliation wrong.
I know who sock is. this guy doesn’t have socks’ use of capital letters, odd spaces, etc. Which means if you are right, he bought himself an Iphone, or some other mobile with autocorrect.
I don’t really think it’s the case. Sock loved changing his screen name, and using (supposed) clever derogatory terms for those he disagreed with. Archer/008 does not seem that…”creative” if you take my meaning.
Seriously, though; if you read 008′s posts and Archer’s posts, there are a lot of linguistic similarities and stylistics. Sometimes I only know who the poster is by the screen name. they are THAT similar.
Jesus Tap Dancin’ Christ. Starlord and Cyber_Controller are like two cats trying to figure why they can’t catch the mouse cursor.
Cyber FAIL: Left and Right aren’t my memes. The Assemblée nationale is soooo 1789.
Starlord: @there are a lot of linguistic similarities and stylistics
Yuh. It’s called spelling and grammar. You’ll get to it next year in fifth grade…or sophomore year at community college…whichever comes first.
I noticed no denial in 008′s post.
I also notice they confuse stylistics with spelling and grammar, which are entirely different. Stylistics is how one puts words together within the framework of their chosen grammar, regardless of spelling, though spelling choice words (Esp. vernacular) can be a deciding factor of style. Example: “Again, you assume.” “You assume again.” “Once more, you’ve assumed.” “Your misrepresentation belies your assumption” all say the same thing, within the framework of spelling and grammar, yet are a different STYLE of conveying the same meaning.
I guess MI6 does not put knowledge of the Queens English high on the required prerequisites for employment.
Go read a textbook, 008.
The Stylistics were one of the best-known Philadelphia soul groups of the 1970s. They formed in 1968, and were composed of lead Russell Thompkins, Jr., Herbie Murrell, Airrion Love, James Smith, and James Dunn. All of their US hits were ballads, graced by the soaring falsetto of Russell Thompkins, Jr. and the lush productions of Thom Bell, which helped make the Stylistics one of the most successful soul groups of the first half of the 1970s.”[1] During the early 1970s, the band had twelve consecutive U.S. R&B top ten hits, including “Stop, Look, Listen (To Your Heart)”, “You Are Everything”, “Betcha by Golly, Wow”, “I’m Stone in Love with You”, “Break Up to Make Up”, and “You Make Me Feel Brand New”.[1]
Early years
The Stylistics were created from two Philadelphia groups, The Percussions and The Monarchs and the Stylistics were born![2] Russell Thompkins Jr., James Smith, and Airron Love came from the Monarchs, and James Dunn and Herbie Murrell came from the Percussions. In 1970, the group recorded “You’re a Big Girl Now”, a song their road manager Marty Bryant co-wrote with Robert Douglas, a member of their backing band Slim and the Boys, and the single became a regional hit for Sebring Records.[1] Producer Bill Perry spent $400 to record the number in the Virtue Studios in Philadelphia. The larger Avco Records soon signed the Stylistics, and the single eventually climbed to number seven in early 1971.[1]
Success: The Bell/Creed years
After signing to Avco, the record label approached producer Thom Bell, who had already produced a catalogue of hits for The Delfonics, to work with the group.[3] The Stylistics auditioned for Bell, and he was initially unimpressed.[3] He ultimately only agreed to produce the group because he believed in the great potential of lead singer Russell Thompkins Jr.’s distinctive, nasal high tenor falsetto voice.[3] Avco gave Bell complete creative control over the Stylistics, and he proceeded to focus the group’s sound exclusively around Thompkins’s voice.[3] On most of the group hits Bell would have Thompkins sing virtually solo.[3]
The first song the Stylistics recorded together with Bell and his collaborator, lyricist Linda Creed, was the lush “Stop, Look, Listen (To Your Heart)”.[4] Bell imported the techniques he had perfected with The Delfonics, and his arrangements worked perfectly with Thompkins’ falsetto. The bittersweet lyrics from Creed were a key factor in creating memorable music.
Their hits from this period —distilled from three albums— included “Betcha by Golly, Wow” (U.S. #3), “I’m Stone in Love with You”, “Break Up To Make Up” (U.S. #5), “You Make Me Feel Brand New” featuring a rare double lead with Airron Love, the aforementioned “Stop, Look, Listen (To Your Heart)”, “You Are Everything”, and the Top 20 Pop hit “Rockin’ Roll Baby” (U.S. #14). “You Make Me Feel Brand New” was the group’s biggest U.S. hit, holding at #2 for two weeks in the spring of 1974, and was one of five U.S. gold singles the Stylistics collected. The Stylistics’ smooth sound also found an easier path onto adult contemporary airwaves than other soul artists, and the group made Billboard magazine’s Easy Listening singles chart twelve times from 1971 to 1976, with three entries (“Betcha by Golly, Wow”, “You Make Me Feel Brand New”, and “You’ll Never Get to Heaven (If You Break My Heart)”) reaching the Top 10. Every single that Bell produced for the Stylistics was a Top Ten R&B hit, and several—”You Are Everything”, “Betcha by Golly Wow!”, “I’m Stone in Love with You”, “Break Up to Make Up”, and “You Make Me Feel Brand New”—were also Top Ten pop chart hits.[1] This commercial success was not confined only to the U.S., with the band also having big hits with this material throughout Europe.
Changing style: Continuing international success
Thom Bell stopped working with the Stylistics in 1974,[1] and the split proved commercially devastating to the group’s success in the U.S. Just as with the Delfonics, the Stylistics were to some extent a vehicle for Bell’s own creativity. They struggled hard to find producers who could come up with the right material, and partnerships with Hugo & Luigi (through which they did produce one commercially successful early disco record, entitled, “Hey Girl, Come and Get It” in 1975) and Van McCoy were notably less successful. However, just as U.S. success began to wane, their popularity in Europe, and especially the United Kingdom, increased.[1] Indeed, the lighter ‘pop’ sound fashioned by Van McCoy and Hugo & Luigi gave the band a UK #1 in 1975 with “Can’t Give You Anything (But My Love)”.[1][5] Further successes with “Na Na is the Saddest Word”, “Funky Weekend” and “Can’t Help Falling in Love” consolidated the band’s European popularity.[1][5] They are one of the few U.S. acts to have two chart-topping greatest hits albums in the UK.[5]
The Stylistics switched record labels during this period as Avco Records transitioned to become H&L Records in 1976.[1] Notwithstanding this, the band began to struggle with increasingly weak material, and although the singles and albums came out as before, by 1978 chart success had vanished. This decline coincided with the rise of New Wave in Europe around this time, and it was also stated by Russell Thompkins Jr. (in the re-issue sleevenotes for the 1976 album Fabulous) that the group began to feel that the music they were recording was becoming increasingly dated, and not in keeping with the popular disco sound of the late 1970s.
In 1979, they had a small part in the movie Hair, directed by Milos Forman, where they play conservative army officers. They double Nell Carter in singing a tongue-in-cheek song called “White Boys”.
Later years
In 1980, both James Dunn and James Smith departed due to conflicts over the direction of the group.[6] The group continued, recruiting new member Raymond Johnson, and releasing the album Some Things Never Change. In 1985, Johnson departed, leaving the group a trio. Love, Murrell, and Thompkins continued to tour until 2000, when original lead Russell Thompkins, Jr. left. Love and Murrell brought in two new members from one set of the Delfonics – Harold Eban Brown as lead singer, and tenor Van Fields. In 2011, Fields departed from the group due to health problems and was replaced with Jason Sharpe (formerly with Heatwave). The group, prior to Fields’ departure, was featured live on the DVD The Stylistics Live at the Convention Center (2006), as well as along with other artists of the 1970s on the DVD, 70s Soul Jam.
In 2004, Russell Thompkins, Jr. started a new group, the New Stylistics, with the returning Raymond Johnson, James Ranton, and Jonathan Buckson. They are featured on the DVD Old School Soul Party Live!, which was part of the PBS My Music series.
In 2006, their hit single “Can’t Give You Anything (But My Love)” was used as the base for a Japanese advertisement campaign by Gatsby, to launch their new male hair styling product, ‘Moving Rubber’. The campaign was successful and featured one of Japan’s most popular celebrities Takuya Kimura of the pop group SMAP. They were also featured guests on SMAP’s television show, SMAP×SMAP, one of the highest rated shows in Japan to promote the ‘Moving Rubber’ product.
In October 2009, they featured on the UK BBC One television program, Friday Night with Jonathan Ross.
Their song, “People Make the World Go Round”, was used by Spike Lee in the soundtrack for his [film|movie]], Crooklyn, made in 1994.
*Golf clap*
Look everyone! Agent can copypaste! and he used it in an attempted sarcastic reply! Soon he can has big boy pants!
All “regulars” copy and paste. Here. Have a cupcake with extra sprinkles. Nom! Nom! Nom!
And you don’t know why, do you?
tl;dnr
you called?
Inappropriate ordinal is inappropriate.
Not to mention the similarities of their avatars, which is indicative of nothing.
Here’s a thought, maybe father & son? I get the impression that Archer is kind of an elderly person, while I get a different impression of Agent being a younger person.
I also notice that when you actually get the better of them, they immediately tangent off, move the goal posts, or resort to name-calling. The above ordinal is a perfect example of that. He’s seen the regulars use ordinals before, but has no idea WHY. And so, goes right back to poking other posters with a sharp stick, and hoping for a reaction. It’s all just egotistical masturbation.
I’m reminded of the cartoon from the 90′s; “Kids! KIDS! Come quick! Your mom is flaming someone on the internet! Isn’t she cool?!?”
Jeez, I’m British and I know more about Paul Revere than her. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragic.
If we were to go to war with Britain again, Sarah’s knowledge of Colonial American history could sink the war effort.
She’s dumb as a blonde.
hey! i resemble that remark!
i thought it was funnier when i learned that the reason that blonde jokes became fashionable to tell was not due to marilyn monroe or any starlet who played up to the stereotype, but because of the stubbornness of the swedes.
then again, i thought it was pretty impressive when i learned that polish jokes came from the polish cavalry countercharging the blitzkreig, unwilling to back down and fighting with whatever they had. sure they lost, but the sheer size of the balls on those soldiers — and their horses — for charging tanks? pretty admirable, actually.
Hells Bells played on the soundtrack as Revere rode through the gunsmoke, warning the British that he was a bad mother fvcker
Paul Revere & the Raiders is an American rock band that saw considerable U.S. mainstream success in the second half of the 1960s and early 1970s with hits such as “Hungry” (1966), “Kicks” (1966, ranked number 400 on Rolling Stone magazine’s list of The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time), “Him Or Me – What’s It Gonna Be?” (1967) and the 1971 No. 1 single “Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation Indian)”.
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and now, Sarah will teach us how to play the clarinet: “You blow in one end and move your fingers up and down.”
If by “Sarah” you mean “Dad” and by “clarinet” you mean “your Weiner (D-NY9).”
ouch.
umm…all Paul Revere did is drunkly ride into a bar full of redcoats shouting the British are coming and then got arrested. the poem sounds pretty and all, but that is not what happened.
Huh?
Notes from the stalkerazzi: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56186.html
It’s obviously the media’s fault for accurately capturing her own words.
Now you know why cops hate recorders and videocams…
Errr I know nothing about US history… guns are bad
…m’kay.
Nor do I, I wish they’d explain things a bit better for the non-Americans on this site.
Sarah Palin was tired and gave an impromptu, garbled version of Paul Revere’s Midnight Ride.
Happy Dance is over.
vv That
Who was it that said, “It is better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”?
Maybe it would be LOL to ask Sarah…
Paul Revere was a silversmith. During the American Revolutionary War against the British, Revere was tasked to warn Sam Adams and John Hanc0ck regarding the movements of the British. When Revere saw what the British were planning to do (notably, destroy arms for use in the war and arrest Adams and Hanc0ck), he rode to warn them. Along the way, he met various people on horseback and he spread the message, but secretively (stealth was necessary to not alert the British).
Along the way, he also lit lanterns to alert the townspeople of Charleston of the Britsh’s intentions. Finally arriving, he gave the news to Adams and Hanc0ck, then continued on to the armory to prepare them.
His actions, along with William Dawes and, later Samuel Prescott, helped prepare the colonists against the coming British.
Contrary to Palin’s assertions, Revere did not “warn the British” that they “weren’t going to be taking away our arms”, and he did not “ring bells” or “send warning shots”.
Nothing like that ever happened.
Imagine her heading up and administration that is in charge of ‘amending the Constitution’…. Mexico and Canada will be putting up fences… illegal aliens will be sneaking back across the border…
“paul revere’s ride” is a matter of patriotic pride for americans. it was, according to the folktale-ish way it is told, a brave and courageous ride to warn the founding fathers of the british military movements against them, which caused them to be prepared for the initial battles of the war.
palin tried to put a modern political spin on it, and failed because she didn’t seem to understand the event that she was referencing. liberals will miss the spin she tried to put on the issue and pounce on her as the idiot that they already believe her to be, while conservatives will circle the wagons and come to her defense, hearing the message she was trying to convey and defending the spirit of the matter.
Oh, I heard it. The memetic density of her statement was very high. I do not consider this to be anything near a mistake on her part. Liberals aren’t afraid that someone is going to take away their guns, but this is what makes conservatives vote against their own economic interests.
I never believed it myself until my neighbor, an otherwise rational man who always struck me as at least as pragmatic as myself, almost walked into a divorce because his wife was a big Obama supporter, but he was afraid Obama would take away his gun collection.
If he still has it by now, when the term is over half over, it’s not going anywhere.
and slavery guarantees you job security for life…
Why hasn’t she figured out by now to just stop talking?
“Listen, my children, and you shall hear
Of the midnight run of Paul Revere
Once on the bed, twice on the floor
My fifty-yard dash to the bathroom door…”
Wish I could remember more.
Ahahahaha you silly americans. But it’s always fun to judge other countries for who they vote for, and do facepalms when you just can’t believe how stupid they can get (imagine Palin as president – I bet that’s the day when the world ends), but since the people in my country are stupid for voting people who support the rich (like themselves) in charge and those people want to take more tax-money from the poor, I have to laugh with sincere tears in my eyes. This world is so screwed up.
Awaken the trolls. A heretic speaks! Burn the heretic!
Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman who helped Democrats capture the White House in 2008, warns that Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.
Dean says his fellow Democrats should beware of inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom that Obama would crush Palin in a general-election contest next year.
um.. my brain hurts.
I mean, I’ve heard of generalizing the intent, but this is ridiculous. That is, If she had said ‘warning the British that we would be free’ it would still be (very) wrong, but defensible. but really..
Bless her little Alzheimer’s syndrome…
After the ‘revised version’ of Paul Revere – I wonder exactly what Sarah Palin has in her mind when she swears to uphold the US Constitution?
“Well golly, there’s like this Bill of Rights where everybody pays their fair share of funding the government…” and “In Philadelphia at Independence Hall it was decided that our government would be three branches, the Ewoks, the Griffindorfs and the Transformers…”
All around amazing blog post
You couldn’t be more right..